4th and Wrecked
Podcast for the Great Lakes Lightning Sprints, and everything about my announcing career
4th and Wrecked
2026 Race #1 @Silver Bullet (ft. Gregg Burt)
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From 600 to 1000. Gregg Burt is back in style in 2026. Tune in to hear him and I break down Silver Bullet and everything to look forward to Crystal.
From the fast lane to the pit lane, we got you covered for all things racing. Where every lap is a chance to make history. With some of the talents you may know and some trying to make a name. This is Fourth and Rect. And I'm your host, Matthew Riger. Hello, everybody. My name is Matthew Rieger. I'm your host of Fourth and Rect. We are here at season four, episode two, everything post-Silver Bullet Speedway. If you haven't heard from the first episode, I am doing things a little bit differently this season. Instead of having a co-host, I will pick a driver from each of the races and kind of talk to them and see how their race went, see how they're improving, see how their season's going. And the first driver that we had was going to be Chad Collie. But unfortunately, with schedules colliding with Chad Collie, we got Greg Burt on the podcast. Greg, welcome to it.
SPEAKER_00How are you doing, Matthew?
SPEAKER_01Oh man, I'm doing good. I'm excited for Saturday, as you told me you are too.
SPEAKER_00Oh, yes, I'm definitely excited. After last week, the Silver Bullet, yeah, I'm ready to get going.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, for sure. And I will tell you, uh last week at Silver Bullet, um, you blew your stats out of the water. Um, I think I had you down for a 13th and a DNF is your best finish at Silver Bullet. I had since updated them. Um you finished, I think I know it wasn't very much higher, but uh you finished 12th. So it's one higher. Uh but you definitely were running a lot better laps than you were the entire last season, and there is a reason why. Yes, sir. Yeah, seriously. That this is kind of the reason why Chad wanted me to have you on, is the difference between the 600 that you ran last year and the a thousand this year. First, my question is do you feel the difference from race trace? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I yeah, I I felt I can feel the difference. And overall power is a lot greater than the 600, but um I think uh with the power ratio that's different though, because I did get new wings for this year, which would be the correct size for the lightning sprints, which is bigger than what I had last year. So I think for the power that I got, more the more power I got for my motor that I got the more down force for the wings, if that makes sense to you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean it does a little bit.
SPEAKER_00So kind of like car seems like the handle's the same to me. It's just more, you know, a little bit more power.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, for sure. Now, I've never raced one of these lightning sprints before. Do you have to like adjust your line? Because I know you're normally for the 600, you know, you don't have a lot of power down, so you'd probably race towards the bottom of the racetrack and kind of step out of everybody's way. Do you kind of have more free range with the way you run your lines now with a faster car?
SPEAKER_00Um, yeah, I mean, I only raced that one race the qualifying, but I kind of was letting the car just kind of go where it wanted to go, didn't I want to put no input too much input in it to brush off speed?
SPEAKER_01So yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_00And I had and I started the race off with four brand new tires all the way around. So that had to be a big difference too, but I I I think you I think it'll be a lot more moving around on the track fires changing your lane, your line for with the thousand would be a lot easier than the 600, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, for sure. Like I said, your speed differential is a lot faster. Uh, I think I've seen you in the front of the heats uh once before, but that's because of qualifying metrics. But to see you at the front of the heats and actually battling like Justin, what was that like for you?
SPEAKER_00That was that was that was a good feeling. I mean, I told him that I said thank you for that. That was fun, and hopefully we do it a lot more. I mean, I just tried to jump out in front of the lead and just I didn't I wasn't gonna let off and uh it surprised me. I could hear him back there coming, but I I didn't know I didn't know it was if he was gonna go low or high, and they told us to stay off the stay down, don't go down low because it wasn't ran in there, we're packed in good, so I was kind of like staying in the middle and letting my car just work with you know we'll let football could pretty much drive itself around there, so I wasn't brushing off speed. I could use a little bit more bite on the tires, I think, and side bite.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I feel you. And you mentioned um you didn't know how Justin was gonna get around you. Uh I dug through stats for Crystal Motor Speedway, and I had to scroll back even further for the stats that Justin had at Crystal. So he's put so many laps in. I mean, he's a six-time champion. Um he's been racing with the lightning sprints since I believe 2014, if I'm remembering that right. So he's been in with the lightning sprints for 12 years, and he's got six championships. So you have to understand like what that is. And for Justin, he has a lot of knowledge, experience, and he'll he'll fit figure out a way to get around you. If you're in his way, he will figure out how to get around you. Uh to put it together.
SPEAKER_00I was curious if we could I was curious if you could get a hold of him why we're doing this, and I was gonna ask him if he was if he was just like, let me let me leave there a couple laps, or was he actually pushing his car?
SPEAKER_01So I I did actually I did cut talk to talk to him uh this week uh and he told me that you were really fast. Uh that was the one thing he said uh compared comparative to last year, uh he definitely approved and that he kind of was waiting a couple laps to kind of dissect wh where you were running and kind of figure out where he can put his car. So, yes, he was letting you kind of run out front, but he's also trying to figure out where you were going so he can go where you are not to get around you.
SPEAKER_00So like a true channel, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Seriously, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but I mean it like to get any better, you're gonna have to race with the good guy, you know, the guys that are good if you want to improve your your own self.
SPEAKER_01So yeah.
SPEAKER_00I wish I kind of wish it was, I mean, I'm glad I started on the front, but I like chasing people. So I like I don't know, it makes me go a little bit faster, I think. Push it, push it a little harder when I'm chasing someone.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and you also kind of figure out, you know, where they're running, where you might be able to improve. I mean, I will tell you, I haven't done lightning sprint racing, but I have done so many races on the console, which it's not any it's it's very much different. I was gonna say it wasn't different, it totally is different. Um, but I there's been races where I've dusted the field, and then there's races where I gotta figure out how to get faster and faster. And you know, from your experience last year to this year, you know, you found out how to run with the the smaller motor. So it is gonna take a little bit getting used to this year. Um, but I think it's something that given how you raced at Silver Bullet, you know, you should handle it not just fine, you know.
SPEAKER_00I think it'll be all right. The long the car stays stays together, all right. I should be alright.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Which I was gonna ask, I know we talked it a little bit about it during our interview. Uh what is you you said you were overheating in staging. Did you ever figure out the problem in the feature?
SPEAKER_00I think uh no, not not exactly. That's why I kind of only did a couple laps. I didn't want to hurt my motor. And actually, there was still some stuff that was still fluids that was coming out and then hitting me in the in the shield, so I couldn't really see that good either. But uh I think it was a combination of things. Me letting my car idle at the staging, and then I think after Warrior got in front of me and the rooster tails there got in front of my radiator, uh, and I put I think that broke the camel's back as far as it overheated it, actually overheated it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And did you ever get to figure out that problem uh through the week? Have you had time to look at it?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I've been working on it. I changed the difference, difference of oil, the vicassity and oil, and uh I cleaned my radiator real good, which I didn't realize how dirty it really was. And then uh I'm gonna make sure I kick my fan on as soon as I hit the track. Yeah. And and last year I had a methanol motor too, and the everyone was you know wanting to get their mortars warmed up and I wasn't thinking, and I was warming mine up where I didn't have to. So I could have just left it cold and started it up and then you know went around the track and ran it, ran it compared to a methanol running motor.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so do you have a different um are you different this year then?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm running gasoline.
SPEAKER_01Oh, okay. Okay. So you're back to so basically you're on par with where everybody else is.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm yeah, kinda. I'd rather be run methanol because it does run a little quicker, I think, and cooler.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_00There's nothing modified or there's nothing headers is all I got on there. As far as uh intake box and nothing I had to stock on right off the bike, and yeah, that's what I got.
SPEAKER_01But no, we uh we talked about your uh your heat. How did you feel leading? Did you did you enjoy that?
SPEAKER_00Oh, I loved it. Yeah, it was a blast. It was it was probably like the best time I read racing, to be honest with you.
SPEAKER_01That's great. Well, I hope to see you up toward it more towards the front. Uh definitely I think it's one way to get your name out there, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00Right. I'm gonna go out there and I'm I'm I'm I should I'm gonna qualify better than I did last week, though. I think. I wasn't even pushing it. I should have I should have pushed it a little farther, but it didn't seem like I was going that fast when uh Sheila come up and told me I qualified fifth fifth. And I was like, I didn't believe her because I was like, there's no way I would I didn't feel like I was going that fast.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I will tell you did have a lot of high praise from a lot of the drivers that I talked to uh said that you were very improved uh from the the last race that we did. So to hear that from all the drivers, it's kind of um yeah, I I'd say a confidence.
SPEAKER_00I like hearing that. Yeah. Yeah, it definitely is, definitely is. Like that that's the first time I had restart or started on the front too. So I I made sure I gave Dalton plenty of room, you know, didn't pinch him off down below and let him get the let him start the race, you know, and got the jump on. Then I'm then I was I just I wasn't gonna let up. I had it down to the I had the standing on it the whole time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's awesome. That is.
SPEAKER_00I might not have as much power as with everybody, but if I could get that power to the ground, and maybe they can't I'll get all that power to the ground, then that's probably the only way I'm gonna do anything.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, for sure. And that makes sense, you know. You gotta find out where to put the power, you know.
SPEAKER_00But I'll probably just keep a stock all year, run that, run that until next year, and maybe do something off of that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Like I said, it definitely was good to see you at the front of the racetrack. And you know, I'm I'm excited. Like I said, excited for Crystal. Um wasn't really Yeah, it was it was a great race. Uh I don't know if you had the chance to see the end of it, but Justin and Arlie kind of went at it for about all 20 laps uh after you exited the racetrack. Um Arlie was on like the heels of Justin. I'd say between one and three car lengths off of Justin about the entire race.
SPEAKER_00So I watched the video of it when I got home.
SPEAKER_01Oh, you did? Okay, yeah. I'm I'm I'm also glad that they had the videos. You can barely hear me, but it's alright. But um Yeah, it's great for sure.
SPEAKER_00I'm kind of looking forward to Tri-City too, because last year we got rained out when I was there.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, I don't think you've ever raced to Tri-City before. Have you ever been there before as a fan?
SPEAKER_00No, nope, never been there.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_00I got to meet the guy there that uh he told me about the tractor getting loose and it cut his leg off. He's that's who I spent my time there with before they canceled the race when we were there.
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SPEAKER_00I don't know if you've ever seen a video of that video of that uh lost tractor just driving around the track by himself.
SPEAKER_01I don't don't think so. You might have to to send it to me. But I will tell you, uh, Tri-City, the one good thing I do love about Tri-City is uh whoever goes to victory lane uh gets an interview from me on the front straightaway. So all right, cool. Yeah. Uh Jake, Matt Coggley, and Justin Ward have been the drivers that have talked me on the front straightaway.
SPEAKER_00Well, hopefully, yeah, somebody new will be doing that this year.
SPEAKER_01Right? I'm on a I'm hoping for a wide range. And Chad Kylie did say he was gonna go to Victor Elaine, so I'm gonna hold him to it. So I know it seems a little bit crazy for me to call it out here on the podcast, but Chad, I'm holding you to it.
SPEAKER_00Put some pressure on him.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, seriously, pressure. Well, while we are talking about Chad, um, I did talk to him just a little bit before I called you earlier today, and he told me he wanted me to mention about his uh son Hudson. Uh he's doing an Alzheimer's fundraiser, and I just wanted to take a second just to read this, um, just to toss it in there if that's right with you. Sure. Yeah. Okay. So this fundraiser is especially close to her hearts. Now, this is a document that I got from Chad. I think it's up on Facebook as well. Uh I don't know if you follow Sheila, you follow Chad, you can find this document because there's a QR code on it uh that you can scan it, can you can help donate? So I'm gonna read this document that I have. Hudson first learned about Alzheimer's through his uncle Doug. What started it as simple questions turned into something much bigger. It's a true passion for understanding the disease, learning how it affects families, and sharing that knowledge with others. He talks about it, researches it, and wants to be a part of the generation that helps find a cure. Hudson Hudson isn't just raising money, he's raising awareness. And like I said, there is a QR code. And one thing Chad did tell me for all the drivers that are listening, for all the fans that are listening that might come to Crystal Motor Speedway, that might come to Racetrack this season, uh, Chad Collie in his trailer will have a little tote, clear plastic tote. And you know how in Ohio you might get a can and it doesn't have a bottle deposit? Well, if you take your cans up and you go to racetrack in Michigan, they got them for 10 cents a pop. So take your empty soda cans, take them down, and Chad Kali's taking them, and he's gonna help raise some money for that fundraiser. So we're cheering on Hudson. He's got uh, I think 5,000, they said was goal. I think he's already raised over twelve hundred dollars. So we're getting pretty close to the goal. So he's really excited about it. So like I said, Chad just wanted me to mention it, and yeah, if you need to find the QR code, uh I'll post uh post it to my to the race page.
SPEAKER_00So that sounds like uh excellent charity. Um my grand my grandmother my grandmother died of Alzheimer's.
SPEAKER_01Oh she died.
SPEAKER_00I know how how how it affects people, yeah. It's terrible.
SPEAKER_01Well, ain't that something? They would have you on the podcast. Funny. Funny how the world lo the the Lord works, works a mysterious way.
SPEAKER_00Yes, he does.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. But no, seriously, uh you definitely been an improvement. And um I appreciate that. Yeah, absolutely. I hope to see you more towards the front. I definitely do. Uh it's gonna be a great season, and that was just race one. So pray that we don't get rained out, because I really don't want to get rained out because I've been really excited for Crystal and uh just hope for uh good Friday, a good Friday, and um hope to see you at the track.
SPEAKER_00Yes, sir. I'll see you there, mate.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Also, did you want to name any sponsors? I might start doing that. Did you want to name any sponsors?
SPEAKER_00Um yeah, I like to uh give a shout out to Superior Industrial Sales of Jackson and uh Mama War Bucks, my mother. She helps me out a lot in Lyman Sol Services out of Jackson.
SPEAKER_01That's awesome. That's awesome.
SPEAKER_00I appreciate that. Thank you, Matthew.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. Well, thanks for jumping on. I appreciate uh you taking the time and hope to see you at the track.
SPEAKER_00Yes, sir. See you at race today.
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