Race #5 @Silver Bullet (ft. Geoff Miller)

Post Silver Bullet Speedway hails Jacob Sabaj back to the top of the leaderboard. A lot of action packed racing throughout, but in the end, it never mattered.

Geoff Miller joins us to talk about his struggles starting off 2026. Everything he has battled thru, and everything he continues to fight whether that be on or off the track.

Tune in to hear me and Geoff break down his season including his fight back to the top for redemption.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

From the fast lane to the pit lane. We got you covered for all things racing, where every lap is a chance to make history. With some of the talents you may know and some trying to make a name. This is Forth and Wrecked. And I'm your host, Matthew Rieger. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the next episode of Forth and Wreck and everything post-Silver Bullet Speedway. I was going to get somebody else on the podcast. That was Chad Listerman, but we talked a little bit uh during during the week, and I told him like I'm very confident that he can go to Victory Lane before the end of the season. So I'm going to wait until Chad Listerman can go to Victory Lane to have him on the podcast. But we got a special guest on the podcast. You've known him. He's been on the podcast before. The driver of the Loney Construction Lemcool Heating and Cooling Clefwell Drilling Choppy's Guide Service, Cleft Directional Drilling Number 17. Welcome to the podcast, Jeff Miller.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on.

SPEAKER_02 1:02

Yeah, I mean, I always love having you on. I I definitely did re-listen to our interview a couple times. Um had we had that debate about what was your favorite flavor ice cream, and you didn't tell you told me that you didn't really like ice cream, but you were trying to pick up an ice cream sponsor.

SPEAKER_01 1:17

So yeah, yeah, I fell through, but hey, you know what? We got some good partners on board that have been with me since day one, and we uh do everything we can to to uh to rip them, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:30

Yeah, absolutely. And I know you're kind of bummed you haven't been uh you weren't at the Silver Bullet this past weekend, which is totally okay. Uh we actually didn't have a lot of people. We were down to eleven cars. Uh imagine that. I think the lowest car count we had was back in I think it was late May again when we were at Silver Bullet. We had like maybe nine or ten cars. That was the lowest car count I've ever seen since I've been with you guys. But it was uh it was a low count car count at Silver Bullet Speedway, and you've been to Silver Bullet, so you you know how the property is, you know how kind of how it races. Um from your experience, do you like going to Silver Bullet Speedway or like uh what's do you got a favorite memory from Silver Bullet?

SPEAKER_01 2:14

No real memories. I mean, I do like Silver Bullet a lot, you know. It's the it's the the smallest track, it's the you know, you're up and tight. Uh the property's awesome. Um the the whole atmosphere is pretty solid, you know. It's a pretty long drive for us. So every time we're there, you know, we take full advantage of of uh of the area. It's it's it's a good time, a good track. Um yeah, I've competed there a few times, and I was really bummed that that two of the tracks you know that I didn't make it to this year were both silver bullets. So um, I guess that'll be for the 27th season that that we'll get back there and and uh hopefully put it towards the front.

SPEAKER_02 2:50

So you are confirming 2027? Is that what I heard?

SPEAKER_01 2:54

Uh potentially, yeah. Yeah. Um, we'll see. A lot can happen between now and then, though. You never know.

SPEAKER_02 3:01

Yeah, absolutely. I know you guys have been running uh rough this entire season. You said you guys have missed two races, both have been the silver bullet races, and we've had five races this season so far. So you you got to think you've been missed 40% of the races, and of the 60% of the races that you have made, it's been a struggle. It definitely has uh for you guys this entire season.

SPEAKER_01 3:23

It it definitely has, you know, going for the first, you know, our rookie year and and having a decent start, you know, getting your feet wet and things like that. Um, to then coming in with some momentum, you know, the year two and uh and kind of building on that and uh still learning, you know, the whole way, still learning today. Um but just having that momentum going into the season and then to have uh a major issue uh at home here with the with the car the night before, you know, or a couple nights before the season started was was a shot. Um tried to stay positive, worked through it, got it fixed, um, only to have another problem. And uh so things just weren't adding up and uh weren't happening. So it has been um trying. And uh but I guess the uh the windshield's bigger than the rear view mirror, you gotta look forward and uh and and keep on grinding and and trying to get to uh these races and and at least push so on.

SPEAKER_02 4:28

Yeah, absolutely. And you mentioned your uh your rookie season. You had two top tens in your rookie season, then you went to 2025 and all but three races you finish inside the top ten. And now we're looking at 2026 and just starting off the year not in the top ten at all. Does that ever weigh on you heavy? Um knowing that like it's your third year, um, you're starting to maybe overthink things. Maybe you should get thinking you should be getting better, but feel like you're taking three steps forward and two steps back, if you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 5:04

Yeah, no, it's it's um I'm competitive. Um, all these guys out here racing are are competitive. Um, it's part of it. So you start to you have doubt, uh self-doubt. You try to keep the you know, the negatives outweigh the positive sometimes, and it's an easy way to think. Um I've definitely had that this year. It's been a struggle, it's been frustrating, it's been, am I good enough? Um, all those things enter your mind. And I guess the real growth in that, and I try to keep, you know, telling myself is the real growth in that is how you get through it and how you finish. Um self-doubt's always gonna outweigh the positive, but it's just a mindset. You just have to work through it, take a deep breath, tighten the belts and and try to try to overcome it, you know, and then that first that first uh that first step's always the hardest, and then hopefully the momentum will kick up and things kick on, you know.

SPEAKER_02 6:06

Yeah. Do you ever when you get through these times of doubt? I mean, you said the the I'm gonna almost said it backwards, the windshield is bigger than the rear view mirror. Do you ever look back though on like some of the good memories that you had? And like the heat wind, the heat wind at Mount Pleasant. Like I remember doing an interview and you were you were tearing up uh during that interview. But like, do you ever take time and look back at, you know, we can do this? Does that ever help you looking forward?

SPEAKER_01 6:37

It it does. Um, you know, those memories that Mount Pleasant still will be always special, you know, the first one. Um, it's just a I guess the the craziest part of it is it's like the relief. You put in so much work, you put in all the time, you know, people rely on you as far as you know the companies that you represent, and you kind of like, oh okay, I can do this because that self-doubt it kicks up all the time, not just when things are going bad. Um but it it was a culmination of okay, I can do this. So yeah, absolutely. Every everything is special um when it happens. But I think the true character of at least me, I can speak personally, the true character is what how you respond facing adversity personally. Um that's how I've tried to get through it. But absolutely, those things are just kind of dangling carrots, like, okay, I can do it. Let's now let's do it, you know, kind of thing. Getting out of your head more than anything.

SPEAKER_02 7:36

Yeah, absolutely. And I will tell you, we went to Tri-City and qualifying didn't go the way you planned it, but you took the time and worked on your car during after post-qualifying, and you missed the heats to work on your car, and then you went out for the feature. And like you guys had to overcome so much, and especially at Tri-City. And I know it's not the finish that you guys wanted to get. I mean, you guys want to go to Victory Lane, right? But like absolutely have the season that you guys are right now, like having those little moments where you can get back out and just be on the track. That's like uh it puts a smile on your face, sort of thing, you know.

SPEAKER_01 8:15

Yeah, I did. I, you know, it obviously it wasn't the uh the result we wanted. Um, and honestly, I was driving skittish and that feature what could break next, you know, kind of thing. Um, we got through it. Um I ended up I did leave Tri-City with uh with a smile on my face just because of all the work, uh all the work we put in, making the you know, we didn't pack it up and go, I couldn't have done it without uh hip grass racing. I couldn't have done it without Bobby Miller and Kali and all the guys that came over to help me with parts and with things that that were destroyed. I mean, that front end was destroyed. Um but yeah, it was getting down to work, tearing it apart, rebuilding it, doing it all right there, um, having the help from those guys to just what can I do? And and that's the things that make it special, you know, and and to be able to even sit in that lineup for features. Um that was awesome. It truly was.

SPEAKER_02 9:12

Yeah, absolutely. And you mentioned Pipgrass racing. Uh, they've been a big help this entire season. And I will tell you, I'm gonna give a little shout out to Mike. He was picking on me. Um, Mike and Pipgrass Racing, uh, Kim, Dalton, uh, they've been so helpful for me the past couple years. I will tell you, driving up to the track with it being so far away has it it takes a lot. Um and Pipgrass Racing definitely has been there for me too. Um, they've given me rise to the track, they've given me uh some water, which they got a water sponsor now. So if anybody is looking for some water, Pipgrass Racing has water. And I think it's the same water sponsor that they had uh a couple years ago. Might be wrong on that. Uh Mike will tell me when I post the podcast. But yeah, huge shout out to Mike and uh Absolut Kim. Like that they're so heartwarming, they're so welcoming, and they've helped me out a lot this season. Uh they've definitely let me crash their place after being too tired um from the races. I'll tell you that.

SPEAKER_01 10:14

Yes, no, they Mike and I talk all the time. You know, he's he's an awesome ally to have in the sport, and uh we talk you know during the week, and I park you know next to their trailer, and it's just uh yeah, he's definitely a benefit and has been a benefit to me as well.

SPEAKER_02 10:30

Yeah, absolutely. Another shout out, uh JDR Speed Shop and ARS Automotive. I just talked to Arlie like not even five minutes before I called you earlier, and he told me that I should call you because you're on your way home from their house.

SPEAKER_01 10:46

So from their place, yeah. No, I was at the speed shop tonight. Um, another huge ally I've had both those guys uh in this sport that that uh we talk all the time and and always willing to to lend a hand and and tonight uh I had a the reason I missed uh this last week of silver bullet was I was getting ready to load up, had to do a couple little things to the to the rear end of the car on the day of the race. Um Saturday woke up, started working on it, and absolutely everything that could have gone wrong with with the rear end did. It was out of center, it wasn't coming back together, and just everything culmination. Um I spent hours and hours and hours trying to rectify it, and it just it didn't work out. Um so tonight we got that back to normal, and uh those guys are are a huge asset, and and I can't thank them enough for for taking time to help me, you know, especially they got their own stuff to work on and uh and to be able to help me try to just get to the race, you know, and try to put a full actual night together.

SPEAKER_02 11:52

Yeah, absolutely. Now I got a question for you. You said that you worked on it for a couple hours. Uh now, how many wrenches went flying across the the garage and how many how many uh words were said that shouldn't have been said.

SPEAKER_01 12:11

Yeah, the wrenches, uh it was like six in the morning when I started, and uh so the kids were still asleep. So the wrenches didn't get tossed, but the swearing uh was on another level. Um to uh step back, take a drink of coffee, swear some more, look at it like it's just miraculously gonna come to me, um and then start in. So yeah, some things were things were definitely said that I'm not proud of. Um, but but uh I guess I was the only one out there, so it made me feel a little better.

SPEAKER_02 12:44

Yeah, I will tell you, uh, you were just talking about that situation. I was just getting pissed off myself sitting here, you know. Yeah, he's like, I was gonna work on it for a couple hours. I'm like, dude, if I was working on it for a couple hours, I'd be livid. I mean, I'm I work on my brakes in my driveway for a couple hours and I start to get frustrated, you know. Can't imagine like, hey, we're getting ready to go to the track. All I have to do is just one thing, and then you can't go to the track at all because of this, you know.

SPEAKER_01 13:08

Exactly. And that's exactly what happened. Um, you know, I started getting started working on it at 6 a.m., busted out, loaded up. By the time the kids get ready, you know, wake up and get ready. I can hang out with them a little bit before going down. And um yeah, that that ended at about two uh PM, straight through working, trying to figure it out. And I it just didn't come come to.

SPEAKER_02 13:31

Yeah. Seriously, but you did miss a good race.

SPEAKER_01 13:37

I know. I was I was uh it's it's weird, you know. It's like missing a day of work or school, you know, you just feel weird, like I need to be somewhere. You know, and it's just that you're checking Facebook and you're looking at my race pass and you're looking at all these things, looking for updates of because you I just I I do. I just I wanted to be there so bad. And I've I've come to most of the races um you know, in my in my lightning spring career. Um there's very rare that I'll miss them. Um because it it does. It's look I made a commitment to my sponsors to be there, and sometimes it just doesn't work out. And thankfully it's only been a handful of times, but uh but you can't it's it's tough. It's hard. It's definitely hard.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, one thing I will say is um a little story uh for me. I was drove up, me and my wife were going to the Mike's house, uh Mike Pipgrass's their house. They were gonna give us a ride up, and like I said, so very thankful for them. By the time I got to their house, uh went down, hung out with Dalton for a little bit. Uh but then I got a call that uh was asked to run the whole show as far as announcements. And like my heart, my heart like dropped, and uh like I had to debate it for like an hour and a half. Like I was back and forth between like Anthony, Barry, um, they were texting Matt, uh the track owner at uh Silver Bullet, going back and forth and like should I do this? And then I felt bad about this, but we're in the line at Chick-fil-A, and I got this.

SPEAKER_00 15:16

Why would I think it'd be anywhere other than that?

SPEAKER_02 15:19

We were we were in the line at yeah, we're at Chick-fil-A, and I had this rewards on my phone, and Barry had called me well as I was trying to scan this reward, so I felt bad, but I sent her to a voicemail to scan this reward, but then I called him back afterwards, and I'm like, hey, I gave it thought, and you know, I want to call this uh this entire weekend. And it was great, dude. I I didn't know lick at any of these drivers. They had all classes there. That place was packed. Uh that was the most that I've ever seen the stands. And you know, it's there's not really a lot of stands, you know. They got the front stretch and then they got um like picnic tables and then bring your own chairs and stuff. But it was down to the fence. It was down to the fence, and then like the grandstands were like as I'm not gonna say as packed as they could have been, but it it was it was a packed house.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

And well, you're definitely you're not making it easier that I missed it because that's awesome. Those are those are the game seven moments that I love, you know, people in the stands and and everybody having a good time and just oh yeah. Yeah, and then calling the race too. I mean, the only time I've seen that is uh at the fairgrounds when we call that whole night and didn't know about it.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

Yeah, but I will tell you I did a lot better with uh with these guys than I did with uh the guys at the fairground. Uh I had a couple root people reach out to me. Uh Matt, the owner at Silver Bullet, he messaged Barry and then said like all the staff had nothing but good things to say. Um I went to go collect my pay for the night. And the lady there was like, oh, you did great, you did awesome. I was up in the booth and I was like, hey, thanks for having me tonight. And Matt's like, I don't know why you were worried. You dude, you killed it. And I was like, I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 17:08

You uh you nailed it. Yeah, you do.

SPEAKER_01 17:10

Every time I'm you know, I obviously can't hear you. I can hear you during, you know, like if it's not my heat race, I can barely hear you, you know, but enough. But you do a great job, man. It's it's definitely not it's definitely definitely worth it. You do you do awesome.

SPEAKER_02 17:24

I was about to say, we got crystal coming up soon. That one I'm gonna try to record the heat races. I'm gonna try to record qualifying full qualifying this time, and hopefully we can try to get that posted that way everybody can like maybe clip it and kind of have it for their sponsors.

SPEAKER_00 17:45

Yeah, and you do you do a great job, man. I look forward to I hope it works out that way, you know.

SPEAKER_02 17:51

Yeah, absolutely. No, but it was like I said, it was great. Um I didn't I I called all the shows like from start to finish. The what the mini wedges? They had two mini wedges. Really? There was there's five on the property. There was three in one group and then there's two in another.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

And that's not usually like that there. You know, every show that I'm ever at, the mini wedges seem like they're well a hundred people.

SPEAKER_02 18:18

I w Crystal. Crystal there is terrible.

SPEAKER_01 18:21

Oh yeah, oh okay. I guess I didn't realize that.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

Well, as I terrible as in like a lot. Um Silver Bowl.

SPEAKER_00 18:30

Oh, I see. Okay, I thought you meant yeah, okay, I gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 18:33

No, no, like sorry. Wrong wording. Uh terrible as in like dang, bro.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

They're like kids.

SPEAKER_02 18:39

No, no, no, but seriously, um called the whole show, and because I was an out the house announcer, I'm like, I'm gonna do what I want to do here. After the lightning sprints went to Victory Lane or after they finished with the race, called the home, checker flag. I walk down the steps. Dude, Silver Bullet has the steepest steps to get up to the booth. But I walk down the steps, they have like yeah, you've been you've been yeah, the front stretch of silver bullet. Do you realize I had to jump off that ledge uh to jump down to get to the victory lane to do an interview with Jake?

SPEAKER_00 19:28

Just went parkour?

SPEAKER_02 19:30

Yeah, seriously. It was bad. But like I was like, like I said, I was a house announcer, you know what I'm saying? So like it only picks up when I start talking, you know. I'm not worried about somebody else. So like I'm gonna go down there, I'm gonna do my interview, and then I'm gonna walk up and I'm gonna go to Victory Lane. And I was walking back, it was it was tough to get back up. I'd hold the microphone, I like jumped up with one arm, grabbed the pole, swung on to the it was just bad. Jesus. But like the flag man was like, hey dude, you're doing awesome. And I walked by and then I got like two or three more compliments of how good my announcing was before I got back up to the booth. I'm like, okay, never never gotten this before.

SPEAKER_00 20:14

Yeah, you're you're rocking it. You're you're just used to hearing it from us.

SPEAKER_02 20:18

Yeah, so like yeah, that is true. That is true.

unknown 20:22

That is true.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

We all love you.

SPEAKER_02 20:24

It's like what if your like wife was like, hey, you're doing great. But then like, what if Justin was like, hey, you're doing great? Right? You hear from your wife all the time. From Justin, you'd be like, oh wow, okay, guess I am doing really great, you know?

SPEAKER_01 20:37

Yeah, for sure. No, that's awesome. No, that's you and you look for it, you know. You kind of you don't look for it, but you look for um I I guess just that extra I guess it's that extra deep breath, you know, that you don't know that you need. And then when you hear it, it's like hell yeah, you know, like that's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 20:56

Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

It's it's kind of that deep breath you don't expect to need, but but it hits at the right spot, you know.

SPEAKER_02 21:03

No, but seriously, it was you do great. It was a great night. I know, I know. Wish you wouldn't have been in Victory Lane. That too.

SPEAKER_00 21:15

Wish I would have been on the property.

SPEAKER_02 21:17

That too.

SPEAKER_01 21:20

Uh but it was uh looking forward to to putting the weekend together, man, and and I to getting back all those things, you know, stuff like that. Well you got Mount President. Um it started out that way. Um Then I had to bail out of the car because the car was I was absolutely I don't know if you actually know what happened. Um so we got through, yeah, the heat race got through qualifying. I thought that was my night, you know, like we're gonna get through a weekend. Um because I've qualified and then things went bad. I'd run a heat and then things went bad. And then, like obviously at Tri City, you know, all I did is run the feature.

unknown 22:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

So it's like I haven't put it together a full weekend yet, which is which is kind of driving me. Um so we get into the feature, and I think Chad and I were running together or something. Um and things were fine first couple apps, and then all of a sudden I was going into three and four, and I mean my motor bogged down like I was losing fuel pressure. And as nothing's happened, and you know, I haven't hit any huge major bumps that would have jarred anything.

SPEAKER_02 22:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

Well, as I was coming out of four down the front stretch, I couldn't see. Like my visor on the helmet was covered. My motor was, I mean, I I could feel like wetness and saturation on my entire uniform. So I shut all my stuff off and I didn't spin out, I spun it out. You know what I mean? Like I grabbed neutral and I knew I wouldn't hit that tire, and I knew it was soft on that infield, so I just turned it to bail out, and the guys at Mount Pleasant were like, You're lucky you bailed out because so what had happened was the injectors were one of them dislodged or something happened, and so all that fuel when I put the throttle down was just pouring on me.

SPEAKER_02 23:20

Are you serious?

SPEAKER_01 23:21

So yeah. And so my temperatures in the car at that point were 180, 190, you know, 200, all over the map right up there. So that's why I had to bail out and uh got that fixed too. But um, yeah, just crazy things like that. Like there's so much, so much alcohol on me that I thought I had blown out a fuel line. You know, I was just it was covered.

SPEAKER_02 23:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

So that's what happened that night. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

No, I honestly didn't even do that. Oh.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

It's a little intimidating the way that could have gone, you know. Yeah, for sure. But um, yeah, I was able to bail out and uh no catastrophic damage, so thank God.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

Yeah, you didn't join Ryan Lanfield and Jerry Napier in the catching on club.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

I remember watching Jerry's video in car when that when that happened and how fast he got out. And so I remember while I watched that video, I was like, man, I wonder if I could get out that fast. Well, good thing I I kinda figured it out that I can at least bail out someone quick.

SPEAKER_02 24:34

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 24:37

So yeah, it was crazy.

SPEAKER_02 24:40

Yeah. No, but seriously, you missed a good race at uh Silver Bullet Speedway. Can I tell you, take a first of all, you oh you probably are checked my race pass. Uh, who do you think got fast time?

SPEAKER_01 24:53

Fast time in qualifying, was that um was it Grayson?

SPEAKER_02 24:58

It was okay. So you did look at it. Yeah, yeah, Grayson got to the top. That honestly shocked me, but there was no speed at the track. Like, comparatively to where we ran earlier this season, I I gotta look back at it. I feel like we were super slow. Okay, I'm gonna go back to timing, qualifying. Oh, wrong one. Okay, so never mind. We were faster. Justin had a four my word. You know what I just realized? Hold on. I'm gonna be upset if I didn't call it out. Okay, hold on. Y'all gotta bear with me here. Oh my word. Oh my word, I didn't say anything. Oh my word, I didn't say anything. Hold on.

SPEAKER_00 26:02

You can make it you can just make it for this week.

SPEAKER_02 26:05

Okay. Yeah. Um Grayson hit the track record by three tenths.

SPEAKER_00 26:18

Did he really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:19

I'm looking back at it now. Bill Bill had a 1391 back in 22. Uh Grayson had a 13.66.

SPEAKER_00 26:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:30

Oh my word. I'm gonna need to call him. Okay. Huge shout out. Uh sorry, Grayson. Uh I haven't been really following stats this season, but Grayson has now the track record at Silver Bowl at Speedway. Oh my word.

SPEAKER_01 26:47

I've been out there a few times with him, you know, when I'm there. Um and yeah, he's definitely got the skill. He's a he's solid.

SPEAKER_02 26:54

He's definitely been getting a lot better, I will tell you that. Um, the one thing that I uh I I I can say this positively being the announcer, uh, the one thing I will say that he does struggle with is trying to figure out how to keep the power down. He was racing Justin uh for the heat win, um, and he had so much speed, but he came off turn four and he hadn't like nowhere to put it. You know what I'm saying? Like Justin was like blocking him just enough. And it's also silver bullet speedway. It's a very you told us it's the smallest track on the schedule, so there's not really a lot of space to move around.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

So yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 27:31

Yeah. Wow, now I feel awful. Well congrats to him. There goes me.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

No, that's that's that's whipping. That's flying, man. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 27:45

Oh my word, now I gotta call him back. Now I gotta call AJ. That's what I really need to do. I need to call AJ and apologize. But uh yeah, JWR Speed Shop swept the heats. You probably saw that.

SPEAKER_01 27:59

Yep, I saw that.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

And then feature you remember Mount Pleasant?

SPEAKER_00 28:09

W the one that I this year?

SPEAKER_02 28:11

Oh yeah, you did. Um did you watch the end of it by chance?

SPEAKER_00 28:16

Uh no, I did not.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

Uh because I I remember it took them a long time to load my car. And I was sitting in that truck just like awkward as they were trying to load the car. Because I said, as you know, with the fuel sale that they had uh had sustained some damage that first year. Yeah. Um I just asked them not to break anything. And uh so they were taking extra time, I would say, to load that up. But so when I got back to the pits and finally showed them where my trailer was, um the race I think had ended. So I didn't get a chance to really see it on video either, uh, because I've been was trying to, you know, diagnose it this week. So I didn't get a chance to really watch it um the last couple weeks.

SPEAKER_02 29:05

Yeah. Well, I will tell you, so the race at Mount Pleasant, um, Bill and Jake were match lap times, and then all of a sudden Bill hit some lap traffic and uh Jake kind of slid around the outside and just gapped Bill Dunham, went to victory lane. Really? That was basically the exact same, but with Chad Listerman instead. Um yeah, so not really much to say about the race. Um man. Sorry, I I'm on the phone. I'm texting Jake right now. Uh huge shout out to Jacob Shabbai. Welcome back to Great Lakes Lightning Sprints Victory Lane. Uh now it's got the second race win in a row for him. It was like I said, it was a great race for sure.

SPEAKER_01 29:58

Yeah, Jake is uh Jake's more of a guy and he's solid. Um it's definitely fun to race with him. Um and uh yeah, he's he's amazing. It seems like this year there's so much speed um in our division as a whole, top down. Um and it's great for the sport, and it's it's good for these it's but everybody's so fast this year, it seems like, compared to um I mean Jake's fast, Listerman, everybody, all of them. Listerman's fast, you know, Justin and Arlie. Arlie's killing it, and it's awesome to see um how good he's doing. So it's been a fun year. Um and I hope to be a part of it.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

Yeah, absolutely. What what a what a race. So you coming Friday?

SPEAKER_01 30:53

Yeah, cars ready. Um better. No thanks to Arlene Justin, but yeah, the car's ready, and uh we're gonna just not touch it at all the day of. I'll load it up tomorrow and and head down Friday. And it'd be good to see everybody and and put a weekend together, a full show out, you know, together.

SPEAKER_02 31:13

So that's good. That's good. Well, Jeff, I really appreciate you jumping on uh tonight. I know it was a last minute type of thing, but I wanted to hear your thoughts because me and me and Chad were talking about you uh yesterday, and I wanted to hear your thoughts about uh if you're coming back with us, but it sounds like you are, and all the problems are good. And you're not Otawasso Speedway, so I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 31:41

Well, I anytime, man, you know that. Um, I appreciate it. Just uh huge shout out to all my people in my corner, it's been awesome, you know, club directional drilling, and and all my sponsors have been just standing by me, you know. And um hey, that's that's huge. And uh it's time to fight from the bottom up and hopefully we can do that.

SPEAKER_02 32:04

Well, good luck for you.

unknown 32:05

Well good luck.

SPEAKER_00 32:06

Appreciate it, man. And I look forward to seeing everybody uh Friday.

SPEAKER_02 32:10

All right. Well, sounds good. Have a good one, Jeff. Uh, like I said, thank you for again for taking the time and um hope to see you on Mount Pleasant.

SPEAKER_00 32:17

Absolutely. Thanks, buddy.

SPEAKER_02 32:18

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