Snakes In Religion/Myth EP 83

It is Year of the Snake! 
You either love em or hate em, n we love them!
Snakes or serpents are used for protection in some cultures, but on the other hand, they are demonic monsters.
 Whatever you think of them, take a gander at our chat and see some real footage of our local slithery friends.

Todays location sitting on a rock in a secret cove near Tatlsu Northern Cyprus.
  We hope you enjoy, Tina n Marie.x
#snakes #yearofthesnake #podcast   #viper #spiritual

Transcript

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hi everyone welcome to another cosmic
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chrome conversation with me Marie and me
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i know feel two intro
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[Music]
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today's episode is about snakes
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snakes or serpents if you want to call
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them serpents yeah we're not we're not
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doing a like a historical like every
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single country what it belongs to and
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all that we mostly this this was um
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thought of about half an hour ago we
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weren't about um like what what you've
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encountered in life well it the idea
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came up because in within a few days I
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know it's here in sight north because
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it's snake season now this this is April
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filming and obviously they're coming out
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now from hibernation and all of a sudden
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I saw like three snake incidents within
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a couple of days it was a black whipped
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snake that got caught in the wheels
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which I will put a video on after and
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you could put it on there put it on
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there okay we'll show you a a short
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couple of clips with a viper and a
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whipnake
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[Music]
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isn't the black ones the nice ones so
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the black ones were brought here in
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Cyprus to kill well to lower the numbers
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of the bluntnosed viper which it worked
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scary them vipers yeah and they're ugly
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as well i mean I love snakes i think
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they look if you can see that which is
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an Aurora is the snake eating its own
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towel also the figure eight is
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the symbol for infinity
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snakes as a spiritual
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thing you've got for and against
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actually the the Norse gods or the Norse
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mythology along with Christianity see
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snakes as bad everyone knows the story
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of the the snake uh jungle book Eve Adam
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and Eve and you know that that story
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there's no point going into it but at
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that time snakes were already snakes
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it it it mentions in the Bible nothing
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about what people think like cutting the
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legs off or anything it wasn't it was
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just you're a snake and you're going to
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sn stay a snake for all eternity the
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thing was also apparently their god
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Christian God said something about women
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will hate you for all eternity yeah but
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the the thing is though um but I love
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them so sorry mate so what is what is
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the match to you what is the link
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so I think snakes I go with other
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cultures that snakes are a symbol of
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eternity because they shed their skin
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it's about renewal
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rebirth and funnily enough I I didn't
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know this but some form of rat snakes
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some species they actually do devour
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themselves wow so there is a true aurora
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where the snake would actually devour
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its own tail and and start devouring its
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body until it probably choked to death
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what I find fascinating about
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snakes is that the image of snakes has
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changed over the years like so many
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things how people draw them and all that
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and some have scales that come to
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feathers do you know what I mean and
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that that their faces are so I think
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they're
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majestic gorgeous historic don't they
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and you know if you're relating them to
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lizards or even dragons there there's a
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lot of mix and match with snakes and
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dragons cuz when you look at we've got
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you see them funny little lizards and
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they look like little worms but they're
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little legs they got little funny legs
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as well they look like snakes with legs
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don't they they don't look like lizards
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i'm not sure if that is the actual slow
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worm that has legs it could be cuz they
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they are they're not very fast
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but yeah I mean the the thing that
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people do there's a lot of people like
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with spiders and things like that i
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don't know where it comes from or it's
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uh other people's fears that they won't
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touch them and and and probably people
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watching i'm I'm not just smising but
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when you touch a snake I I believe when
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I was a kid they were hot they're not
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slimy and that's where I was going hot
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and slimy and they're cold it depends on
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bumpy yeah things like that and I
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thought it was so magical and I was
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going I went to my zoos I went look oh
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it's so nice and then all the other kids
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are
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going so I don't know where the fear the
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fear of them because they grow sorry
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they live on on land under the water oh
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do you know all sea snakes are venomous
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no I didn't know that
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there you go there's one to go and look
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up um so there's the Greek had this
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magical papyrie papyrus
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is papyro or papy i don't know what the
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plural is where um there's a Greek god
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the the Greek
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papyruses was written in mostly ancient
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Greek but there were was of other
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cultures involved with it but on those
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papyro were magic spells and formulas
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and rituals and this this Greek god was
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the god of
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medicine and that's where we got our
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medicine logo from so this Greek god
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it's everywhere it was the sword or the
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dagger or staff i think it was a staff
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with a snake wrapped around it and that
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was the Greek god for medicine's
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symbol which is now our medical logo
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yeah
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that's fascinating because that's
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universal
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and Yeah so it's it's that spiral shape
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you know like the way that you It's just
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the image it's the image
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as
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Escalpius was the Greek god yeah
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then you look at the Bible version and
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there is parts of the Bible that do
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mention the dragon as well as the
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serpent yeah because I think there's
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there's so many rep reptiles uh um that
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I think give this image of the dragon do
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you get me there's um what are they
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people keep them geckos and things like
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that they look dragony don't they but
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when you look at the Chinese dragons
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they do look like snakes yes with just
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like little legs that's what I'm on
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about you know different the image and
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other versions oh yeah you know when
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they go around and they do the head and
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they do all that isn't that all feathers
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and so the Chinese version of the snake
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or serpent
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is um their creation ideas came from
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this this halfwoman half serpent who
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created humans right and apparently she
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was like Yeah half serpent
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whatever she got bored creating humans
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out of the sand or clay and then she
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picked up a piece of rope stuck it in
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the clay and basically spat it about and
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all the blobs were the peasants and the
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ones that she crafted out of the clay
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were the nobility
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wow and that's the Chinese version but
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the same with um I think it's the Norse
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they their mi Midgard is their version
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of Earth there's different layers in in
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Norse mythology and it the snake is
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wrapped around the world the snake is
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wrapped around the world and the same
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with the Chinese one I think it is the
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snake is wrapped around the world but
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the difference with the Norse it's a bad
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baddy snake like Christianity right but
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the other one is protection so there's
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like complete opposites yeah and and the
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wonderful thing I think about it is um
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you can isn't uh like the venom of of
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certain snakes do they cure they can
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help people i'm talking about talking
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out your backside um I know the dogs
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when they get bit by them they use venom
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as an antivenenom that's what I mean
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yeah there's that there's that which I
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don't know how that works that's really
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strange
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also
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the the absolute fantastic ability for
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them to shed their skin i'm sure that's
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a lot to do with spirituality has
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brought that in as well that's the
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renewal thing isn't it since each time
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what they what happens is they grow out
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of their own body so then they shed
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their skin leave it behind and each time
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they grow yes they're getting lizards
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well it's reptiles in general I believe
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i mean we we found a few in the shack
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we've been demolishing
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um and he was going "Look at this look
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at this." Because it's absolute a work
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of art it's beautiful isn't it and you
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can still see the patterns on the skin
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it's like paper god yeah and you
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actually You're very delicate with it
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see that's the point there so the
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muscles within a snake
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well there's there's two types of snake
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obviously well there's venomous that
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that kill through biting
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or just biting and there's the um snakes
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that coil and strangulate yeah i mean
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but boom whoever they are whatever snake
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you are it is their muscles their
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ability to shape themselves into into
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nooks and crannies um and I do
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think I I think they're wonderful more
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than scary
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yeah some of them have got some
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fantastic
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um colors
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yeah some of them are quite dull but I
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think evoke I mean what about the
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aboriges when they had their snack you
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know oh it's a free art snake is it yeah
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in the Yeah have you seen the emerald
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excuse me excuse me just one second
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green tree snake is such a beautiful
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bright green it's
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gorgeous but Egypt Egypt they use it as
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a a protection the snake would or the
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serpent would be a protection and they
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had jewelry probably like bracelets that
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you would wear like the Aurora where the
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snake is eating the towel the Egyptians
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again saw the snake as a
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protection not a baddie it was a goodie
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not a badie so basically there's only
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two cultures I know one is
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Christianity and the other was Norse
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where the snake was bad or monster or or
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a demon anywhere else on the planet the
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snake has positive attributes yeah it's
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a very misunderstood
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reptile I think yeah i mean um I must go
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back to the Aborigines and I wished I'd
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have known we were doing it now cuz I've
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left everything at home and I but that
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to me was the first time I'd ever seen
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uh a snake
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image that appealed to me that I thought
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was inviting because like you say
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they've been given this bad reputation
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haven't they well they are some of them
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are and I heard somewhere through
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someone that talked about the reptilians
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yes when you're talking about that
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they're they're again they are depicted
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as you know if you're talking about the
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alien races as negative like they feed
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off us and but I think in any
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race there's good and there's bad i
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think there would be good as well as bad
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yeah like we say it wasn't a history
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lesson
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the word homo
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sapien apparently means like
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homo but sap
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sapion is supposed to mean like serpent
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and I I heard this but I tried looking
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it up and it it I can't find any
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evidence that sapen means serpent right
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but apparently we are like human serpent
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because we have
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lizard DNA we do have lizard DNA and
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apparently you know when they say like
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we evolve from the apes actually we've
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got more lizard DNA than we have ape
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right
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and that brings out when you're talking
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about the the reptilians as a race that
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is the negative side of us and the
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negative emotions like anger also
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passion and and frustration
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um yeah anything like to do with
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violence That is our lizard side because
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when you look at most lizards apart from
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I'd say
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iguanas like snakes they abandon their
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young they literally give birth right
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see you later and they're left to for
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themselves whereas mammals we know you
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know yeah mammals nurture their young so
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I think people with a lot more reptile
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DNA do you think are more towards that
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reptilian of no conscience
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cold bloodooded
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so you know that wraps in with if we
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are we have lizard DNA i'm not sure we
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do because we've all evolved from
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something haven't we you know they say
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that originally everything was in the
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water and then it it came out that's why
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I was saying about them being able to
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live in like mountainous areas flat
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lands
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um under the water you know so I suppose
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that depends on maybe uh their type you
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know that um which one they are but
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they're so adaptable
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the only thing is they're cold blooded
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um I don't know how they survive in the
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sea like that with the temperatures but
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here if they're cold they would move
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towards the sun you know warm spot and
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if they're hot they will go into shade
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yeah and you tend to know where they're
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going to be here we do yeah yeah yeah
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under rocks and like I lifted up the
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dog's water bowl and there was a
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tarantula and um earlier on Yeah couple
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of weeks ago there was uh Viper in the
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bushes in sort shade sounds like a book
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or a film starring Tina viper in the
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bushes ah sorry yeah pretty much sorry
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sorry
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you get used to seeing them here though
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and it is a bit of a shock when you see
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them for the first time yeah but I
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always know first thing I was told here
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the black ones they're okay obviously
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leave them alone but the other ones
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don't go near at all no have you ever
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dreamt about mates
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i I I have done but this is the funny
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thing they were helping me and they
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standing up opposite
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reptilians people
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so maybe they were you were connecting
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with the reptilian race you don't do you
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know you don't know they were really
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kind whatever was happening i felt this
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warmth do you remember that time when I
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um was having them moments and I
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suddenly was like asleep and I suddenly
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felt that in my It was around that time
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see if you told a Christian that they
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would say "Oh it's demons demonic." Yeah
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they're trying to befriend you but I've
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had the opposite if they did they would
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give me a good feeling well I've had the
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opposite not that they're bad but I've
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had them where I've had giant snakes in
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my house now I've had snakes as pets
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i've rescued snakes when I was in UK so
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I'm not not scared of snakes i love
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snakes but in my dreams they were like
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after me or I couldn't contain them they
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wasn't attacking me but I I couldn't
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catch them or couldn't contain them and
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and I was scared of them i felt fear cuz
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they were giant as well and they were
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like up in the I've never dreamt about
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them again never i was having a really
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bad you could say really bad time or
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some kind of awakening where I was and I
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don't get it as much now it was the time
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when I first started to see things when
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my eyes were closed and seeing like
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faces coming at me um people moving it
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was like it was really weird really good
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but some of them were like nast nice
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faces coming towards me and then I had
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this
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feeling with a millisecond that somebody
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was above me as I slept and and
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shouted like and I woke up and I went
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whoa and it was around that time so I
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don't know I don't actually I don't know
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what was rising within me what was what
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was I opening up to lots of good things
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because it served me well to not be
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afraid now do you get me i mean that a
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robos like I said there is a connection
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with dragons as well sometimes it is
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depicted with legs as like like the
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Chinese dragon i know you're going to
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think I'm silly but you know the one in
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Shrek dragon yeah the dragon is there a
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dragon in yeah yeah
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it's been a long time she has donkeys
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babies and Right but the thing is right
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that reminds me of some of the pictures
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of
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snakes some of the drawings the head
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where's the scales yeah and all that you
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see I see dragons more
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like prehistoric pterodactyls type thing
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or you see the lizards here with the way
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they run they're so cute they are really
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cute and you
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know be scared of them but my partner's
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scared of snakes snakes and spiders i
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don't know he's going to get on living
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up in the mountains no but I don't
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understand why the north see them as bad
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because that you know with it wrapped
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around uh Midgard which is Earth where
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humans live isn't that a protection well
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it says
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um online that it it's the the symbol of
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disruption and destruction but at the
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same time destruction comes rebirth but
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it's just like they're focused on the
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negative yeah something has to come down
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for it to rise
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yeah and I'm not sure yeah and their
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name for it is is basically monster so
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like a monster's wrapped around earth
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yeah i know well have they made it that
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is that where I I should think maybe
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Christianity because you know they they
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tried to make it bad so you don't go
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near it so you believe in something else
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m that's what I was thinking that you
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know I can understand like they're
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wiggly and people being scared of them
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and not having arms and legs i know that
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sounds mad but that how they move their
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grace and
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and you know it's not they're not the
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same most things don't they birds have
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legs wings do you know like they there's
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something that is so specific so
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exclusive with going back to our DNA
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apparently we have iguana exactly the
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same DNA as an iguana some of it to an
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extent and I think I've said before in
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another podcast I used to have an iguana
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when we rescued called
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Kevin and when I had my time of the
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month you know he went for my partner he
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knew myction yeah because we share the
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same DNA he knew when I was in season oh
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I see so he would protect me from other
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males yeah no I get that any other time
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of the month he was fine with him but
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you know dogs do that as well animals do
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that in general
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yeah especially when um the person the
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lady is pregnant they'll actually
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you know tell the protect protect you so
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there's something to say we have a link
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you know what I mean know their their
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instincts kick kick in like we must
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protect the queen or actually and the
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fact that the Chinese um half half woman
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half serpent is called Sarta or
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something like that she was a woman that
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created earth
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so there you go all you guys that think
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God is a man the Chinese creator was a
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woman
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put that in your and smoke it is that
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what you're saying how do you put that
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in your and smoke it no put it in your
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pipe and smoke it yeah yeah yeah
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something like that
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well so to to
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conclude I like snakes i think snakes
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are
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lovely i think they have You need to
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respect them yeah i was going to say
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they have something that I'm not too
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sure of as in a power i think they have
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a power they I would presume they only
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want cuz they're hungry or they're
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protecting themselves they're going to
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go if you like any animal yeah and
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spiritually I would definitely say
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to do with religion
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they are a symbol of eternity
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yeah and rebirth and rejuvenation so
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there's so many positive things about
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snakes
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um I I just think they're wonderful i do
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there's some that I I I have this is the
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thing right the power that they have
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sometimes I feel it's
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inviting sometimes I feel not like I've
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been around loads of snakes but I think
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their power is inviting so they want you
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to be part of things or it's very
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standoffish
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i've had my own snake jewelry i had a
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beautiful snake ring for years and then
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lost it but I quite happily It's just
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come to me what about the Egyptians and
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the snake yeah that's what I said yeah
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theirs is predominantly the cobra isn't
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it it's a co Yeah yeah yeah similar
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protection and power see that's what I
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mean yeah and they had like the jewelry
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with the auroros
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i think snakes have been given a bad rap
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wrap but any species of any creature has
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ones that instinctively
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are protective and some instinctively
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are
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aggressors um I I personally think it
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was a lot to do with churches that
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Yeah that said don't you know religion
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yeah yeah because I believe they were
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part of other people's
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um beliefs and it was another one they
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knocked on the head right is that it
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yeah so just to mention we are here in
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beautiful North Cyprus our first day on
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the beach this year yeah and it's stones
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it's gorgeous and it's lovely and we
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just needed somewhere to be
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it's not a good time is it you know like
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with Yeah jumping over to a cosmic vibe
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i have done or I will be doing if it'll
25:37
be out at the same time a video of just
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this view with the sea the sounds of the
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sea which is available on YouTube pop
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over to a cosmic vibe and listen to that
25:48
and also our other channel um a cosmic
25:51
uh sorry cosmic sisters tarot we've been
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doing some really good stuff haven't we
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yeah i've got some new cards coming next
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week i'm excited about that yeah that
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would be great you'll probably get
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headline Marine i'm scared killed by a
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snake crushed by a snake
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but no I just think they've been given a
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bad breath and I think that they're
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their their place in the world is needed
26:19
for the ecosystem for spirituality
26:23
right everyone thank you so much for
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listening and watching um a cosmic crone
26:29
conversation we say goodbye from where
26:31
are we kapla oh Kapla yeah from Kapla
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one of the beaches a hidden cove uh come
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to North Cypus you won't regret it
26:41
you'll have a lovely time so it's
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goodbye from me Marie and it's goodbye
26:45
from me Tina see you next time and hear
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us next time on a Cosmic Crone
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conversation bye everyone bye going back
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to the
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reptilians oh hell
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uh
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