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Italy Travel Planning - Exploring the Amalfi Coast [Travel Tips for First-Time Visitors]

• Tracy Collins • Episode 49

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Planning a trip to the Amalfi Coast? In this week’s episode, Italy travel expert and returning guest Dianne Bortoletto joins me to share everything you need to know for an unforgettable visit to one of Italy’s most breathtaking regions.

From iconic cliffside towns and sparkling sea views to delicious food and warm local hospitality, Dianne reveals what makes the Amalfi Coast so magical—and how to experience it like a pro.

We chat about must-see stops, the best way to explore by land and sea, and practical tips for first-time visitors—like managing luggage on steep streets, choosing the right base, and planning the perfect itinerary.

Whether you’re dreaming of a boat trip to Capri, a day in Pompeii, or just soaking up the views with a spritz in hand, this episode is packed with inspiration and advice to help you make the most of your Amalfi adventure.

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Speaker 1:

In episode 49 of the Global Travel Planning Podcast, returning guest Diane Bortoletto shares her insider tips for making the most of a trip to Italy's breathtaking and mouthy coast. Diane reveals what you really need to know before you go. Now if you love to expert advice in episode 42, you won't want to miss this essential guide to one of Italy's most iconic destinations. Hi and welcome to the Global Travel Planning Podcast. I'm your host, tracey Collins, who, with my expert guests, will take you on a weekly journey to destinations around the globe, providing travel inspiration, itinerary ideas, practical tips and more to help travel adventure Everybody. Welcome to episode 49 of the Global Travel Planner Podcast. This week I am excited to have Diane Bortoletto, if I've pronounced that correctly, who was in our previous episode 42, talking all about her tips for first-time visitors to Italy. Now this week we're talking about the Malfi Coast. But first of all, diane, would you like to introduce yourself, tell us where you're from obviously the Italian heritage of yours and about your podcast as well, please.

Speaker 2:

Oh, thank you, Tracey, and thank you for having me on your show. My name, yes, diane Bortoletto. I'm born in Melbourne, but I have both parents who are Italian. I have an Italian passport, I've lived in Italy and I've traveled to Italy lots and lots of times. It's my second home, if you like. I have a huge passion for everything Italian and that passion includes Ferrari and being a Formula One fan. I recently started a podcast called and Away we Go F1 Podcast, which goes beyond the track limits to talk about travel, food and lifestyle surrounding the sport, and I co-host that with another travel writer friend of mine, monique Chakado, and their weekly episodes. So yeah, if you like Formula One, you can tune into that as well. Thank you.

Speaker 1:

Oh, brilliant as well. I thoroughly enjoyed it. I used to be a Formula One fan a long time ago, kind of brought up with a brother who was obsessed, so I've enjoyed the episodes. And obviously, monique has also been on the podcast to talk about her life in Norway, so it was great to have you on the podcast last time to talk about Italy, so this time it's all about the Amalfi Coast. I'm going to ask you actually the same question I probably started with last time is like could you sum up the Amalfi Coast in three words for anybody who hasn't been there before?

Speaker 2:

Three words would be hilly, hilly, beautiful and oh, hilly, beautiful and unexpected lovely, lovely and a beautiful part of the world.

Speaker 1:

I totally agree. Definitely, you have that. That. That second adjective, totally. Um, yeah, let's. Let's talk about what makes the marfico so special. So Shall we actually just explain to our listeners where the Amalfi Coast is located in Italy? That's probably a good start actually.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it's in what they call south of Italy. So pretty much south of Rome is southern Italy, but the Amalfi Coast is south of Naples. About an hour from Naples by train is Sorrento, and that's the gateway for the Amalfi Coast, and then it stretches along the coast there in the region of Campania.

Speaker 1:

And what makes it so special.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's just beautiful. It's where the mountains meet the sea and you just feel like you're standing in a postcard the whole time. I mean, there's a reason why that iconic seaside shot of Italy that you see everywhere is Positano, because it is just so beautiful. You have colourful houses that seem to somehow just stick out of the side of the mountain, defying gravity, and there's beautiful rocky outcrops and the sea is just crystal clear and so beautiful, the most beautiful hues of blue, and obviously it's Italy. So the food's amazing and and the people are vibrant and full of energy and, um, it's just a stunning part of the country it is.

Speaker 1:

It was one. It was one of the areas actually that I couldn't wait to go to, and I've actually again. I managed to go there in November, so I was very, very lucky to be able to do that. Now, if somebody's planning to spend time on the Murphy Coast, how long would you recommend they stay there for to actually be able to experience it?

Speaker 2:

I don't know about 15 years, perhaps no.

Speaker 1:

I wish I could afford a house there, Diane.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly, exactly. No, I would say, you know it would. Look, giving yourself a week would be really lovely because then you could see the Amalfi Coast with, you know, doing something every day, without feeling too rushed. If you can do two weeks and you're just going to have more opportunities for swimming and taking boat trips and, just, you know, lazing around enjoying the sun, and I mean the people watching on the Italian beaches is next level. Like you know, people watching in the city is one thing, but on Italian beaches is next level. It's incredible. You will be entertained.

Speaker 1:

So in terms of things to experience on the Amalfi Coast, because I could talk about places to visit, because we obviously know, you know, places like Amalfi obviously but what should you experience to fully kind of get the Amalfi Coast kind of spirit? I guess that's the way to say it.

Speaker 2:

I think you definitely need to experience the Malfi Coast on water. So I think, taking a boat trip, a boat tour on the island of Capri, which is a 30-minute ferry ride from Sorrento or Positano, that ferry ride itself is stunning, you know. But when you get to Capri, you can take a boat tour to the Blue Grotto, which is just like, absolutely incredible, the bluest, most aqua iridescent water you'll ever see in your life, and that's due to the sunlight hitting the water in a certain way, and it's in a cave, a grotto. Yeah, so it's, yeah, that's just experiencing the Amalfi Coast on water is something that every visitor should do.

Speaker 1:

So what other things should people do? Should they go for a walk? I'm just thinking about Monique, because I know, Monique, she did a hike recently, didn't she? On Amalfi Coast. Oh, she did a hike recently, didn't she? On the?

Speaker 2:

Amalfi Coast. Oh, she did. Yeah, she did the Walk of the Gods, I think, monique, which is a pretty like. It's a fairly strenuous hike. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for everybody. No, like, before you go to the Amalfi Coast, if you've got your heart set on the Amalfi Coast as a holiday, my advice would be take the stairs, ditch the lift, ditch the elevator, take the stairs and train. Honestly, you will thank me for it later. The stairs in Positano, sorrento and even the hills in Amalfi and Capri are just the next level. Like you will get thigh burn every day going up and down those stairs.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, um, it's true so I used to send my husband down to the, down to the shop, because we we rented a villa in I think we're in minori or mayori, one of one of the smaller um towns, and and I used to send him the shop to go and get the supplies because the steps down were crazy. I was like no, you can do that yeah.

Speaker 2:

So a tip if you are visiting the amalfi Coast, especially if you're staying in places like Sorrento or particularly Positano, because there's one road in Positano, like one road, and then all the rest of the roads are laneways and you can't take a vehicle down there. But there's porters, so you can pay a guy and he'll put your luggage either in a big like a wheelbarrow, a trolley, and take it to your accommodation, or they'll just carry it for a fee. And last time I went to Positano I thought, nope, I had a backpack. I was traveling with a backpack because we were going to lots of different places in Italy and I didn't want to drag my suitcase over cobbled stones. I thought I'm taking my trusty old backpack and I thought, no, I can walk up these stairs to our villa. We rented a villa in Positano and, oh my goodness, let me tell you, carrying 17 kilos on my back and going up 97 steps, oh no, wow, I made it. I did it, but I only did it once, and I paid somebody to take my luggage back.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, don't blame me. I guess one thing is that you can justify eating all that lovely food when you do all the steps.

Speaker 2:

That's right and that's exactly what you should do in the Amalfi Coast, because the food there is absolutely glorious. But getting back to other things you should do, like visiting the other towns is amazing and like it's just, it's a must, like Sorrento, positano, capri that we've mentioned, amalfi that we've mentioned, and going away from the sea up the hill to Ravello is beautiful. Ravello is so gorgeous. You just have these uninterrupted vistas of the sea and the coastline and the rocky outcrops. But there's also beautiful villas and gardens there that you can visit. And the ceramics in the Amalfi Coast as well. They're really well known for their ceramics and their particular design on their ceramics. So another tip I'd love to give your listeners is to, if you love it, buy it.

Speaker 2:

We bought a salad bowl from when we were in Positano we actually bought it from Ravello when we were visiting there and this other platter that had all these sort of mini dishes that fitted inside the platter. The platter we never use, but the salad bowl, we use that four or five times a week and you know you can customise it as well. So I think I changed the colour of something, or I wanted it, and they you know the painter signed it underneath with our name, you know, and the year that we bought it and they shipped that straight to Australia Like, yes, it costs, it's probably the most expensive salad bowl I'll ever own. But, you know, every time I pick that up I'm reminded of our time in positano and on the amalfi coast and it's I think they've, and it's lasted like I bought that in. It was 2010, so yeah, 15 years ago, wow oh, what a great souvenir that's it.

Speaker 1:

You're actually still using it and, as you say, you can ship it back. I did. I did buy a whole lot of things. I remember actually, um, when I was in in sorrento, which are now at my friend's house, which I'm going to get back to australia somehow, um, because I didn't ship it back, I bought little things actually, um, but yeah, I mean, there's some, there's some amazing things to to see and do and buy, that's for sure, and being able to ship it back makes things a lot easier. So if you're thinking I'm going to be going and I really want to buy this stuff, don't worry, you can ship it and they will do that for you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, definitely. So that's something I would recommend that people do, especially everyday items. Like you know, the fancy tray that I bought, you know that was so expensive and I never get it out. It's just too big and there's only my husband and I.

Speaker 2:

We don't you know have people around every, every weekend or whatever. So anyway, another thing that people might consider doing when they're on the Amalfi Coast, if they have time, is a day trip to Pompeii, which is really easy to do from the Amalfi Coast. It's only about an hour away and Pompeii is just one of the marvels of the world. And for any history buff, or even if you're not a history buff, and my number one tip for visiting Pompeii is to do a tour I've done it several times, once on my own, and I'll never do that again, because you just don't get enough out of it. You don't really know what you're looking at. There's only so much reading of the you know interpretive signs that you can do. You know and avoid going if it's going to be like 38 degrees, because it's really hot, there's no shade, no shade, none at all.

Speaker 2:

But so fascinating and so interesting. Those romans, gosh, they were a clever bunch, weren't they?

Speaker 1:

oh, it's a. It's a, it's an amazing destination. I was there in november and had a historian guide which was like you, I think, the first time I went, we we just wandered around ourselves, um, in the heat, and, uh, and didn't you can't? You know you take it in, but you don't really understand or know anything about anything really about it. You just go.

Speaker 1:

Okay, it's Pompeii, I know, I know there was a, I know the volcano went off and covered it over and these are the, you know the bodies that they've recovered, because you can see the casts and stuff like that. So you know that, but you don't really get it, whereas the this last trip I did particularly was with the historian who'd been involved, I think, in digs as well. It was just amazing, it was fabulous, um, so absolutely 100%. I was actually just talking to a friend of mine who's traveling to Amalfi and I said you have to do a tour. You have to do a tour of Pompeii. Don't just go, uh, because it is just, and they keep discovering new things up and and also, I think this time as well, I'm far more interested keep an eye on what's happening there. Uh, because you know they're discovering, you know, on earth and new parts of it, so it was fascinating amazing and it's an easy day trip as well.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, and just how they. You know, from the library where the husbands would trot off to the by my wife, I'm going to the library and there was an underground tunnel to the brothel, do you know, so they could do other things like that. You're like what that's, you know, I know, and the aqueducts, and you know how. They had the world's first sewerage system and all of that. It's just, it sounds disgusting, sewerage system, but it was, you know, innovative.

Speaker 1:

But it's amazing yeah yeah, but I love you know, just seeing that you can see the tracks on the road where the carts went and the way that they have that where you can walk over the actual roads because they've got, because it was so disgusting in them with the actual things you can stand on and go across, but you can see the grooves where the carts were going, you know, and this is a couple thousand years ago, and you're like, wow, this is amazing, I know.

Speaker 2:

And that the sea used to lap, yeah, and now the sea is two kilometres away. Like to me, that's just.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it just shows you how big that volcanic eruption was, because that's what they say. We were standing there and said actually the sea was here, this was a port, but you can see from the eruption now how far the sea is away. And that was due to the amount of stuff that came out of the volcano, which is just crazy.

Speaker 2:

And Mount Vesuvius is such an imposing site as well and you know, you get views of Mount Vesuvius from Sorrento as well. Like often everywhere in Sorrento is pretty easy to spot Mount Vesuvius. Yeah, so Sorrento would be the biggest town, I suppose, on the Amalfi Coast and the gateway, as I said, is pretty touristy. Actually the whole of the Amalfi Coast is quite touristy. So if you can go in May or June, so if you can go in May or June or even April, like after Easter, is better than like July and August, like when it's so hot as well and packed and everything, of course, will be more expensive. Yeah, so with Sorrento I would say treat yourself and go to the Excelsior Hotel for a drink, because they've got a beautiful terrace there and it's expensive and very posh, but very like. I don't know, it's a little bit of glam, a little bit of Hollywood for me. I just, you know, I loved it there. I just felt really it was just a special moment to treat myself there.

Speaker 1:

I wish I'd spoken to you before November, Diane. I wasn't Sorrento. I could have done with that tip.

Speaker 2:

That would have gone well. Next time you just have to go back. Yes, exactly, and in Positano. I would say, if you can stay there, visiting Positano during the day, you're going to be one of a gazillion day trippers that go to Positano. It's at night, and also early in the morning, when Positano just it's calmer, it's quieter, the laneways they're all quite narrow, they're just not thrumming with a gazillion tourists. It's just watching the sunset and the sky change colour and the light start to come on in Positano. It's so beautiful. I think Positano is most magical at night. So that would be another tip of mine. A lot of people, I think, who go to the Amalfi Coast for the first time and I did as well, as a backpacker. I just stayed in Sorrento and day tripped, but I think, even though Positano is only about an hour away from Sorrento, I think it's worth staying there a couple of nights at least.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, it's just beautiful. Okay, so you've set the scene. You've set the scene, diane. I can imagine myself. So I'm sitting in Positano, the lights are up. You know, it's a warm, balmy evening. What am I holding in my hand to drink? What am I drinking?

Speaker 2:

You're drinking a spritz, of course, or if you don't like alcohol, or if it's a bit earlier in the day perhaps you're watching the sunrise or, just earlier in the day, a lemon granita. The lemon granitas are beautiful, like the lemon on the Amalfi Coast. It's famous Limoncello, that's where it comes from, and lemons are renowned in that part of Italy and they're less bitter. They're almost like they have the tang, the lemon tang, but they're not sour, bitter. You can actually eat them, eat wedges of lemon. Um, it's quite something. So, yeah, anything with lemon. Highly recommend lemon gelato, lemon granita yeah all of it.

Speaker 1:

well, my daughter was 11 when we took her to the marficos and she still talks about the? Um, the drink that the lovely lady at the cafe we used to go to every day would make, and it was lemon and orange, and she just loved it and she still talks about it. Every day she'd have one of those and, of course, limoncello. I mean, I would be sitting with my Limoncello, definitely. So what about food? What would I be eating?

Speaker 2:

Food. Spaghetti alla vongole, which is clams, is clams spaghetti with clams. That's renowned on the amalfi coast, so that's what you would eat, as well as seafood, anything. Seafood, um anything with lemon in it. As I said, um, yeah, I think I had vongole pretty much every day, like it's one of my favorite dishes. So it's yeah, seafood pasta, yeah. Now, so it's yeah, seafood pasta, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Now being awkward because I don't like tiramisu, which we talked about in the last episode. I also don't like seafood Diane.

Speaker 2:

I'm not good, am I?

Speaker 1:

Oh my goodness. So what could I eat instead?

Speaker 2:

You could have. I'm just trying to think of, oh, buffalo mozzarella, like the mozzarella di buffalo, which is buffalo mozzarella made from buffalo milk, comes from Campania, the region where the Amalfi Coast is, and it is divine and you know you can get it around the world. Now it's frozen and exported, but having it in Italy, next level See a caprese salad named after the Isle of Capri is a tomato, fresh buffalo mozzarella and basil salad in the colours of the Italian flag, in the white, you know, green white red with olive oil, salt pepper.

Speaker 2:

So simple, so delicious with great bread. Oh yeah, so simple, so delicious with great bread.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah. You know what? I'm closing my eyes right now I'm actually there. I'm about to eat that and drink that. Even though I'm sitting in a room in Edinburgh, right now I'm actually in my head I'm on the Amalfi Coast, diane, so you've obviously been there quite a few times. So what's your favourite story or memory of being on the Murphy Coast? When I said a Murphy Coast to you, what's the first thing that you kind of think of? Or remember.

Speaker 2:

Oh look the first thing is the villa we stayed in in Positano it was. There was 10 of us travelling, two families like my side of the family, or my mum and dad, my husband and I and his family, including his sister and their triplet boys, who at the time were 11 years old. So there was 10 of us. So we hired a villa that could fit all of us and the dome in Positano that is famous in all of the photos. Literally, if my arm was twice the length, I could have just about touched it. Like we were from the terrace of this villa and just waking up there and oh, the terrace was just the villa, sorry was beautifully furnished. And just waking up every morning and just going out on the terrace and just looking at that view, oh my God, my shoulders just drop and I just feel more relaxed, just even just thinking about that, you know. And that villa was like I'm not going to lie, it was hugely expensive, but because we were splitting it between all of us, we could manage it.

Speaker 2:

But there's a few other places in Positano that I've stayed at before that are much more reasonable, and one of them that I'll give a shout out to is a little family run pensione, and it's called Pensione Maria Luisa, and most of their rooms also have a little terrace, not a big grand terrace like a villa, but a little terrace with views, with those views of Positano. It's just as beautiful, you know like. And the price, oh my God. The prices are so accessible there and it's just run by a little family. You have to carry your luggage there. There's? No, I don't know whether the porters serve. It's at the Southern end of Positano, so I'm not sure that the porters serve that area. Um, yeah, but yeah oh, it sounds amazing yeah, it sounds amazing now I'm.

Speaker 1:

So when I went to amalfi coast and it's a while ago now, um as it to stay there. I was there in november, but unfortunately for a day trip, um, we, we got around by bus, so we went to selena and then got a bus to um. I can't remember this, ma orio minori. We stayed in um, which, which was an interesting coach trip. Um, I have a very good story. My daughter.

Speaker 1:

We decided to go to pompeii I have to say I have to share this in this, she's gonna kill me but we decided we'd go to pompeii. So obviously we jumped on the local bus, um to selena to get the um the train up to pompeii, and she decided that morning she'd have a milkshake for breakfast, as you do when you're 11 years of age and about to go on the most windy coach trip ever. We literally got about a kilometre, maybe a kilometre from the train station. She turned green and she said Mum, I think I'm going to be. So what I did is I put my hand with the tissue over her mouth, just as she was sick, which then, which then the sick proceeded to kind of bounce off my hand and the tissue and spray the people sitting on the bus behind us with a lovely um sour banana milkshake In the heat of August. Aha, so luckily, luckily now the.

Speaker 1:

Italians thank God, the Italians love children because nobody went mad, nobody said anything, I just cleaned her up. I had to go and clean her up in the train station, but everybody was lovely and just. You know, considering she's just great and went sick. So that was our experience. My sister, who is 23 years younger than me so she's a bit more adventurous when it comes to her transportation methods she went around the southern part of the Murphy coast and probably on a motorbike with a boyfriend. Now I probably would not do that either. Now, how do you get around when you go there?

Speaker 2:

um, I have done hired a Vespa and cruised at. You know I used to own a Vespa in Perth, so you know I feel quite confident riding and in fact I felt safer riding a Vespa along the Amalfi Coast than I did sitting in a car when I've been there with somebody else driving in the past. Because, as you know, those roads are really really narrow. I wouldn't recommend a Vespa for anybody. Like everybody, you need to be confident on two wheels. If you're not confident on two wheels, the local bus is cheap, you know, frequent and you get incredible views of the coastline and you'll have stories to tell everybody when you get back home because you're going to think, you'll think you're going to die about 15 times.

Speaker 2:

I still remember it, going over the side of the cliff. We're going? Oh no, but they don't. They're very, very skillful drivers, those bus drivers. I don't know how they do it, but your story, tracy, just reminded me of another story.

Speaker 2:

On this trip with two families, there was 10 of us staying in this beautiful villa To get to Positano. We had arranged a private transfer because there was 10 of us, so we had a private transfer that took us from Rome to Positano and one of my nephews, one of the 11-year-old triplets, on that road after Sorrento, on the way to Positano, he turns to his mum. He's like, mum, I need the toilet. And she's like there's just nowhere to stop, like both sides of that very narrow road are full of parked cars, there's blind corners everywhere. You just you can't stop so.

Speaker 2:

And he was just like in agony, dying of pain, needing to go to the toilet. And at one point my brother-in-law said, oh, here's an empty bottle. And my sister-in-law was like he's absolutely not going to go in an empty bottle in the back of this Mercedes transfer van. Like, oh, the poor kid. He was just looking at me like auntie Di help me. I was just like John, you're going to have to hang on. And he kept whinging and whinging about needing the toilet that my sister-in-law ended up saying to him John, you're ruining my serenity. I'm trying to enjoy the Amalfi Coast Like you're just going to have to wait, there's nothing else you can do. And as soon as we pulled into a garage where they dropped us off on the Impositano, he was buckled over in pain and, you know, made it to where's the bathroom and went straight there. It was fine, there was no accidents, it was totally fine. But that's just his big eyes looking at me like help me, like help me.

Speaker 1:

There's nothing I can do. There's two great lessons from that Diane One don't let your kid have a banana milkshake before a windy road trip on the Amalfi Coast, and make sure they go to the toilet before they go on.

Speaker 2:

Exactly exactly Now. The other good way to get around Tracey in the Amalfi Coast is by boat, like I said. So the ferries and that's how I would recommend people get there to the Amalfi Coast is by ferry, because there's a couple of ways you can get there private transfer, like I mentioned, which costs the most. The train from Naples. It's a regional train and it goes through all the outer sub. It's awful, like I would not recommend it to anybody. It's awful, I would not recommend it to anybody.

Speaker 2:

It's often full of people who look like they've had a really hard, rough life, maybe drug addicts, maybe homeless people. I've done that train trip several times and I always feel on edge and uneasy doing it. But from Naples you can get like from the train station. If you get a train to naples or fly into naples, you can get a taxi to the port and then get a ferry from the port to sorrento or positano or wherever you're staying, and that is by far the most pleasant way to get to your destination on the amalfi coast in my opinion ah, that's a really good tip, because the last time we went to Salerno rather than down to Sorrento and I must admit I wasn't Naples train station itself wasn't something that I particularly enjoyed.

Speaker 1:

And yes, the trains down there, the local trains, you have to be really careful. Not the best experience of the local trains, so you have to be really careful.

Speaker 2:

Um, not not the best experience of of the italian train system. No, it's. I mean, they're just. You know, naples is a city where there's a lot of poverty, a lot of people doing it hard and tough, and that train line services the areas where they live, and you know, if you're a tourist, you could potentially be an easy target. Look, touch wood. I've never seen anything happen and I've never experienced anything like pickpocketing or anything like that, but it's just an unpleasant way to travel. When you've got the ferry, which is just the most beautiful way to travel, and Naples train station is, in my opinion, it's horrendous. My mum's from just near there and I never want to go back. There's way better places in Italy I would rather visit, but from the chaos of Naples, an hour away, you're in paradise, in places that you feel like aren't even real. They're so beautiful. So it's, I mean and that just sums up Italy so beautifully.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it does, Absolutely. So what about the one tip that you'd share for anybody visiting the Amalfi Coast for the first time?

Speaker 2:

Pack light, as I said in the last episode.

Speaker 1:

It's always so important?

Speaker 2:

yeah, it's so important because there's just stairs, there's just walking and look. The other thing is, like I said before, just reiterating I'm not saying two things, I'm just reiterating what I said before is train is do some exercise and walk up and down as many stairs as possible. Your knees will thank me for it later, like when you're there. There's lots of stairs, but you know, every step is worth it.

Speaker 1:

Brilliant Diane. Thanks again for coming on to the podcast this week. It's been great to chat with you a little bit in depth about the Amalfi Coast, obviously one of the most beautiful areas of Italy, and you can't say that lightly, because there are so many wonderful, beautiful places to explore in Italy. So I'm sure we'll be chatting about a few more areas in Italy, hopefully soon. But thanks so much for coming on again.

Speaker 2:

Oh, my absolute pleasure. Thank you for having me on Tracey, and whenever you want to talk Italy, you just let me know and I can talk your ear off Will do, thank you.

Speaker 1:

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