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Hello, I'm Cole Evans and this is Becoming Unstoppable. Here we journey together through the landscapes of our lives. It's about transforming obstacles into our stepping stones, embracing our authentic selves and discovering the power within. As we navigate this journey, let's inspire each other to rise, grow and truly become unstoppable. Our adventure starts now. Thank you, guys, so much for joining us on the show today. Welcome to Becoming Unstoppable, and I want to welcome one of my very good friends, theo Bill, to the show for our very first episode together. Theo is also a coach and speaker here in Austin, texas. Theo, why don't you go ahead and tell our listeners a little bit about yourself?
Speaker 2:Thank you very much for having me on the show.
Speaker 2:I really appreciate it and I'm very honored and humbled to have this conversation and also kind of excited, because we always have great talks and there's such depth and just joy to what we have to talk about. It's always so much fun, so I'm really looking forward to that. As far as where I am coming from, I live in Austin, texas as well. I am a speaker, I am a coach as well as an author, and I'm also a singer, as you are, so it's great to have some shared loves and some shared passions. I definitely have a lot of things that I've been working on lately, but one of the things that really fuels my passion is talking about authenticity and how we can find that true version of ourselves that isn't hidden amongst the weeds of our childhood habits and allows a beautiful rose to grow out of that, so that we can actually see that version of ourselves that we can embrace and that we can actually love just as much, as oftentimes, many other people love us, but we don't allow ourselves to do the same.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that. That's great, and I mean all the more reason why I invited you here today, talking about authenticity, and we've both been on that journey we both have been down and back a couple of times, I think of becoming our authentic selves and accepting ourselves and loving ourselves, and so happy to have you on the show today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely yeah. That path is rich with many different droppings, good and bad.
Speaker 1:It is for sure. Well, we've got a lot to talk about and I don't really have any type of an agenda for us. I really just kind of want to jump in and have one of our amazing conversations, because there's always so much value. So, if it's okay with you, let's just kind of go ahead and jump right in.
Speaker 1:Let's get started One thing that I'm finding myself, having gone through a year of really intensely working on my mental health and building a life that I've wanted. And then you know, I told you last month I did an ayahuasca ceremony and, wow, that like blew my mind and I feel like I have this better understanding now than I ever have. We are souls having a human experience and even just earlier today I did this body work, somatic release, like breath work session and it was like okay, I get it now. I already have everything that I need. I am enough because I'm right here. I'm in my heart, my soul is in my heart.
Speaker 1:The mind, that's what really fucks with us and that's what we have to like discipline and figure out how to manage. And I told my coach that was leading me through this, phoebe, I said, you know, in 30 minutes I feel like I got years worth of therapy, because therapy is great and everyone should do it, but it just teaches you how to manage your mind and kind of like collect your thoughts and whatnot. There's so much more beyond that to the human experience and really understanding, like feeling the full spectrum of emotion. Emotions aren't good or bad and it's totally okay to feel all of them yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I used to. When I first started getting into coaching, I would get questions, you know, oh, so you're a coach, what do you do? And I would always preface it because everybody's familiar with therapy. I would say, for me, I think everybody should be in therapy and I think that therapy is incredibly useful for looking at the book of your past, reading the chapters of your past history, whereas coaching is something that allows you to move forward. It's writing the chapters of your future, as opposed to just simply reading and or rereading and rereading. In my case and that was, for me, the breakthrough in my one of the breakthroughs in my mental health was transitioning from traditional therapy into more coaching, which is more outcome-oriented. It's more future-based rather than past-based.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I definitely see that now myself. Having a therapist and also having a coach they're two different things. And let me tell you if you want to feel like a super human, have a therapist and have a coach.
Speaker 2:I love it. Indeed, yeah Well, you've come so far. I mean, in just the time that I've known you, I know you had a rock and roll, you know up and down year the year prior, but just in the last year to 18 months that I've known you, there's been leaps and bounds.
Speaker 1:Yeah, thank you. I'm able to be very mindfully observant of all of that now and I have a very humble pride about it and because of everything that I've been through, like I know it's no big deal. I'm awesome. I do I have? Like. I'm very proud of myself because I put in so much work.
Speaker 1:But I also have this compassion for others and it's like well, just because I figured some shit out doesn't mean that I'm make makes me anything better than you like. We are all humans, we are all having a very unique experience and we can all just do the best that we can, period. And I have like way more compassion for others now in that and I've also because I have compassion for others it's allowed me to act kind of as a mirror and I'm able to have a lot more compassion for myself now and I thought I had that kind of figured out, but I've taken it to like a whole new level yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:When you can look in the mirror and really and truly say, wow, I like that person, that's a tremendous moment, especially in the life of a gay man, in the life of any kind of minority or any of the LGBTQIA community. When you've got such of an onslaught from the rest of society and and there's such dogma in the in the world today, with politics and with everything that that's that's going on in the divisions, it's just as hard today as it was 30 years ago, which is, I think it's really sad to say there are things that are better and I am proud to say that I can state publicly I am a gay man and not worry about recriminations. But there are other elements in our community. There are other parts of that alphabet that aren't in that position, that don't have that privilege, and that is why I'm so that it's just. It's that part I'm very disappointed in yeah, it is.
Speaker 1:It's all a part of just like accepting yourself and then accepting others. And then from there, like getting others outside of that to figure out that they should also accept others. Yep, it's just never ending, you know. I mean, I can say from from my own perspective or my own life experience, I mean accepting ourselves as not normal, you know, and no, I'm, I'm gay or I'm, you know, like that takes so much, you know. And then from there, building on that and being like, okay, I've accepted myself and now I'm gonna be okay with showing who I am to people. Yeah, and I mean, it's just, it's such a huge process and, to wrap your head around it, I, you know, I used to be one of those people that was like, oh, the other people of the alphabet, they've got a problem, I don't have a problem, they've got a problem.
Speaker 1:And now I'm just, like I have such a greater understanding. It's like, okay, well, they're not gay, but they're, you know, transgender or they're bisexual or they're non-binary or whatever they are, like it doesn't matter, we have a very similar story. You know, everyone has their own unique story and their own unique struggles, but it's like who fricking cares what letter of the alphabet, you identify as.
Speaker 1:Who cares what gender you identify as we're all human yeah and we're all trying to do the best that we can and figure this out together, and so I love you for who you are and I have no judgment, like you know. I know you're doing the best that you can do yeah it's.
Speaker 2:You hit upon a point. That is something that I've really been pondering of late, and that is the steps of acceptance. For me, when I was just starting to come out, the first step was actually admitting to myself. That was the most terrifying step was me, because I had been fighting it. I said, no, I don't want to be that person that is the exact opposite of who I want to be. For 20 years, until I, you know, I was almost a grown, grown man.
Speaker 2:And it was that step of acceptance of just, maybe that's not who I am or that's, you know, that person that I was fighting against, that may actually be me. And then there's this idea that, okay, well, we've got to share it with just the people that we absolutely know aren't going to criticize us, that aren't going to terrorize us and they're not going to judge us. So it's like two steps. But then there's the third step of, okay, let's just let it out of the bag a little bit more, and maybe the people that we actually do know on a first name basis. But then there's the even broader of like, for instance, me stating that I'm a gay man to just a random social media post. That's the broad, that's the wide world, and so it's interesting that thinking about how do we learn to accept ourselves?
Speaker 2:And it's not necessarily about being gay or transgender or any of that. It's about what are we hiding of ourselves from the rest of the world, or even from our selves? It could be something like your financial situation. It could be something like your sexual orientation. Obviously it could be maybe a merit marital issue. In certain cultures, if you're having marriages on the rocks, it's just as bad as being gay in in this society. So it it doesn't matter what it is. There are ways that we hide from the world, but when we learn to accept that, whatever that is, there is a huge amount of power in that mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, and acceptance is step step one, you know, because I accepted that I was gay before I came out and then I came out and I accepted that I was publicly out and then I thought, well, everything's fine and dandy, but it turns out I still didn't love myself. So it's like you have to accept yourself and then reveal yourself and accept that you've revealed yourself, and then you still have to figure out how to love yourself. Or at least this is my story and that's something that I have really only recently stepped into. You know, I've I've shared, I did the, the ayahuasca ceremony and prior to doing that, I felt like I, I felt like I love myself. You know, I felt like I had finally come to a point where I loved me.
Speaker 1:And in preparation for doing this plant medicine ceremony, you know, I had to come off of antidepressants and whatnot. And as I did that, one thing that I learned was whole, holy shit, I don't think I love myself. I think that was all masked. I think that was just the meta the antidepressants, the anti-anxiety meds that was making me feel, oh, everything's okay, it's fine and dandy, and, you know, I love me. I didn't. I think I loved 10% of me, you know. And now, having gone through that and lyric, really faced some crazy stuff and stepping back into, like my childhood body and being an infant and remembering all of these, now I really feel like I love myself. I feel like I'm about 50%. You know, there's still more to go, I still have more love for me to figure out, but I'll tell you, you know, like the working on the integration of it and working through what has been brought up and the things that I've remembered for my childhood, and you know, I went back at Christmas time and I talked to my father and I talked to my brother and had these just extremely genuine, intimate, connecting conversations that we've never had and experienced so much healing that not only, like, made my father feel more loved and made my brother feel more loved, it made me feel more loved by them, but also for myself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and as I continue to do this work, I'm finding that it's becoming easier and easier and even natural to love myself. You know I was speaking with one of the coaches that I work with earlier today and telling her it's kind of like when you're, when I went through my mental health treatment program for depression and anxiety. It was like, okay, I'm putting in the work, I'm doing all the things that you're teaching me, but I'm constantly fighting against my mind. And this time it's like I've Jumped over that. I'm constantly doing the work, but it's easy, it's effortless and I'm seeing results quicker than I've ever seen before, you know, and I think that that's because it's the plant medicine, the ayahuasca of it working. I think it's the rapid transformation and the hypnotherapy. And, you know, I mean I've really put a lot in to Uncover stuff and root causes, and one of the biggest root causes of any of this I mean with accepting yourself, accepting others, loving yourself is shame.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, yep, that's a big one, brother. Yeah, when you, when you are unwilling to look yourself in the mirror because there are, there's such an amount of judgment and lack and An expectation that's the thing is you're expecting For there to be a different person looking back in the mirror from you. When, when that doesn't happen, then we get angry, we get disappointment. All of that wraps up into that nasty little bundle of shame and that is, and it's, a huge knot to untangle. But, like you were saying for me, the same thing, when you are fighting it, when you are constantly trying to Push through Whatever that fit that that healing is, it's not gonna work.
Speaker 2:At some point I I, for some reason I have get a mental image of a dog on its back waiting for it. You know, it's like there's a, there's a point when Dogs, if they're being aggressive and you're training them, when they give up and they stop fighting and they just totally relax and then they roll over. It's like, okay, that's the ego finally rolling over and it's allowing me to love myself. That's like the mental image that I think of whenever that that started to happen for me. And For same thing when you were describing it, I'm like, okay, I get it. It's like finally rolling over giving up and saying and just submitting to the process of loving yourself and Admitting that it's also it's. It's a messy process sometimes.
Speaker 2:Yeah you know it's not an easy Solution that we are able to achieve just like that. No, no, Sometimes it takes a long time, sometimes it's. It can be really rapid, it can be almost instantaneous, depending on what it is. But allowing ourselves the freedom and the space and the comfort of Discovering that and exploring that is also some of the some of the joy of the work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for real. You know it's it is there is no set order, that it has to happen and there's no set timeline. It has to happen. And I think it's so easy as humans to be like, oh, I should already have that done. And I think we all Fall susceptible to that. You know, I mean I, how many times have we sat there and it's like, oh my god, like I'm, I'm almost 35, I should own a house and I should be married and I should have kids and fuck all of that. Like there's no order to any of it. You know, it's totally okay that at almost 35, I'm really stepping into being me for the first time ever. I'm really stepping into loving myself for the first time ever. You know, or 45 or 50 or 25, who cares? As long as you finally figure it out.
Speaker 2:By the way, I was 35 when it started for me too.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm glad to know that I'm in good company then, because you know I I definitely Admire and respect you, and you've put a lot of work in to yourself, and so I'm glad to hear that. You know, it sounds like I'm on on that same track.
Speaker 2:Yes, you are. You're exactly where you need to be when you need to be doing what you need to be doing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, it's funny that you say that one of the things. You know, I, as I was thinking through like, okay, I know I wanted to have Fio come on and, you know, have a conversation on the podcast, because we always have such great conversations, I didn't really know exactly where I wanted to go with it, right, like I was like, okay, you know what, I don't need a topic, we're just gonna record a great conversation, because we always have great conversations. And it just so happened that this afternoon, like literally today, right before you and I got on the call, is telling you I did this breath work somatic release session, right? So Phoebe, my coach, she comes over and you know we drop in and we do breath work and you know this is like it's body work as well. So she's like what is your body telling you? And I am such an intellectualizer that my mind's like Running a thousand miles a minute. And it's like, well, she wants to know something. You've got an answer like where you're gonna say so I, you know, and I always have to fight it. And she's like don't listen to the monkey mind, take a breath in Deep breaths. And so I'm like, okay. I'm like, well, what the fuck am I supposed to say? And I finally come, I say you know, I just I don't know why, but I feel like what I'm my intention for this session is clarity, and I'm questioning why would I need clarity? Because I feel like I have so much clarity recently. I feel like I've really worked through a lot of things, so we continue to move forward in this session and you know, she's like feel things in your body and so I'm feeling, you know, some pain in my jaw and I'm feeling anger, and anger is something that I.
Speaker 1:Anger and sadness are the two emotions that I struggle to express. And it's because, growing up, you know, I'm able to like kind of look at the whole timeline of my life Growing up. Those were bad emotions, those were emotions we weren't supposed to do. You know, my mom was often very sad. I felt like my dad was always very angry.
Speaker 1:Anytime that my brother or I were angry or sad, it was like stop crying, don't yell at each other. So, as we're going through this somatic release and breath work and body work and whatnot, she's like feel the anger. It's not good or bad, just allow yourself to feel it, yep. And so I'm like all right. Well, I feel my jaw is clenched and I've got some pain, my chest is tight, my shoulders are, you know, shrugged and raised, my fists are clenched and I'm like, and I want to yell. And she's like, then yell, and so I'm like, ah, you know, and we do that for a couple of minutes. It felt really fucking good, you know, cause I was not allowed to do that as a child. It was always don't yell, don't yell, you know.
Speaker 1:And also, having been through an abusive and domestic violence situation in my life in multiple times, you know, growing up with a piece of shit stepped dad and going through an abusive marriage with my ex-husband I do not like yelling and so I stifle myself when I feel anger and I shove it down. So, as we're going through all of this and as we begin to work through it and I release that, I recognize a few different things. I recognize that the frustration and anger that I'm feeling is because I doubt myself and I feel frustrated with myself that I should be further along, that I should be further into my coaching business than I currently am, you know, and all of these different things. And then as we begin to just continue to breathe and feel things she's like okay, and like what is your body telling you now? And just like, breathe and receive. And so I start to feel this, just like I relax and I start to really feel just a lot of love.
Speaker 1:And here's where the clarity comes back. We like, we come full circle. I recognize that you know I'm on this journey to become unstoppable and I want to become my highest, most authentic, most confident self and what I really feel in my heart, telling me my heart, not my mind, because it wants to. You know, tell me I'm a piece of shit. My heart tells me you already are. You don't have to do anything, just be, be. That's powerful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, because time is a construct, like it's not I have to arrive and I have to do all of these things to get there. I already have everything I need within me and so it just gave me. Like that was the clarity that my body was like you need clarity. And I'm like, why? Because you're already enough. You don't have to do all this crazy shit. You know, you don't have to doubt yourself, just trust yourself.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, it's all about being and being present and feeling your full emotions, because emotions aren't a bad thing, and so I really feel like moving forward. What I'm gonna do is, when I start to feel that doubt this is something she asked me she's like so next time you feel doubt, next time you feel anger, like what are you gonna do? And I'm like, well, first I'm gonna allow myself to feel it and then, second, one of the things that I found for me, placing my hand on my chest. Especially, I like hairy chests, so I've got a hairy chest and if I can rub my hairy chest, I feel loved. I do, I feel loved, but I also like having that hand right over my heart, because it's just like mm. Yeah, all right, I'm heart centered and this is where my soul lives, is in my heart and this is where I am enough.
Speaker 2:Yep, the big guy says when you're on your head, you are dead. So there's a time and a place for all of those things. Just like she was saying that anger, no emotion is a bad emotion. It's just whether or not it is appropriate and whether or not it is useful and has utility in that moment, just like being in your head. We all have to be able to analyze the situation. If we were to dash head first into the tiger's den, we'd all be dead and there would be no human race. So the brain has a function, the heart has a function. We wouldn't have children if the heart wasn't working. It's just a matter of being able to understand that habitually. As men, normally our role is very analytical. In society, we are expected not only to be the quote unquote bread winner and the one that is strong and providing, although that's total bullshit, as y'all, as everybody knows.
Speaker 1:Super dated.
Speaker 2:However, there's a lot of programming in our society that still forces us to cut off emotions from our responses, from the way that we express ourselves, and I mean, even within our community that's still a little bit true, even though there's a lot of people that are much more expressive and much more emotive.
Speaker 2:But there's still a lot of residual programming from the rest of society that says okay, you're not allowed to feel so. It's perfectly natural that that is something that you would probably be avoiding, and I'm sure there's a lot of people out there listening who understand exactly what that feels like that, oh, you start to feel something. No, push it down, can't do it, not allowed, it's bad. And that's part of accepting yourself, that's part of loving yourself, is understanding. There's this symphony of emotions that we're allowed, and it's not just one note, one instrument. We get to play an entire symphony of our being when we're able to access all of the different emotions, all of the different instruments at our disposal. But if we're habitually using the same note, the same instrument every single freaking time, it gets kind of boring and it also gets really predictive and we end up kind of not liking ourselves a lot of times.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wonder if that is maybe one of the reasons why, as far as I thought I had come in loving myself over this last year, finding out, ah, I didn't really love myself as much as I thought, because within me still and it's not like going through the depression treatment program they taught anger and sadness is bad. They were 100% sharing. Emotions are neither good nor bad, they're just emotions. But what I did was I took this skill set and worked amazing for me, like I'm not saying it didn't at all and 100% did its job. I'm so happy that I have it. I still use it every single day, but knowing that my inner child and what I grew up with and you live what you learn anger and sadness, those are bad, bad emotions.
Speaker 1:Quotes you know, yep, I would use my skill set to be like, okay, we're gonna stifle that. You know. Like we don't need to be feeling that Like, oh, I'm pissed off that someone on the board did this bullshit thing and I've gotta deal with this meeting and I'm just gonna breathe through it. We're not even gonna feel it, we're just gonna breathe through it and we're just gonna relax. In reality, it's okay that I'm pissed off that you did something stupid, you know, like it's okay and I'm gonna feel it and work through it that way rather than bottle it up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's so important not to let stuff build up, because then it just simply explodes. I mean, you know, you said that your stepdad was an angry guy. I'm sure he had a lot of stuff that he held tight and it was like a pressure cooker, you know, which reminds me about you mentioned when he went back to Christmas and you had those conversations with your dad and your brother and when you mentioned that, it reminded me of something that we call how you perceive is how you receive, and essentially what that is is. It's a fancy way of talking about rose colored glasses or shit colored glasses.
Speaker 2:You know, as we grow up, if our experience is nothing but shit, we put those glasses on and then we see the world through those lenses and that is all we receive back and it becomes a feedback loop. But because you showed up as an entirely different person, you'd have taken those shit glasses off and you put the rose colored glasses on or the gay colored glasses on and you were an entirely self loving, different person and you actually probably literally transformed them and changed who they were for you in that moment, they probably were like who the heck is this person? And that gave them the opportunity and the space to actually show up the way that you wanted them to. So I think that that's amazing on your part, because that's all you.
Speaker 1:I mean I completely agree with that because both my father and my brother both of them said you're a completely different person than who you were a year ago. You're a completely different person than who you were when we saw you six months ago even like completely different and I asked them both to kind of clarify on that and I shared with both of them just so much. But they understood me for the first time they had the context to understand why I've always been the way that I've been and so they understood. I talked about the gay shame that I felt and I grew up with and that I always felt. Just, I've never felt so super loved and I always felt the gay shame that I had made me feel like I was just a bad person, like one thing that I recognized was growing up.
Speaker 1:The only gay person I knew growing up was my mom's brother, who was an alcoholic and a drug addict and I mean screwed my grandparents over in the world's worst way, like just not a great role model at all, and my family and extended family always talked about what a horrible person he was. And so in my mind, from the time I was born until I don't know how long until 34, of me finding out like hey, I'm gonna have my own opinion of this guy I associated, especially as a child. This is what I learned being gay means you're a bad person.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And so that's what I internalized. And so I asked my dad and my brother like you know, you say you feel like I am this totally different person. What do you mean by like, by that exactly? And both of them said something along the lines of you're much calmer than you've ever been and you're less dramatic and theatrical, which I think is funny, because I don't feel like I've changed that much in how I express myself.
Speaker 1:But I guess the way that I went about it is what's changed, because my brother said he said I don't mean this in a bad way or a backhanded compliment. He said you used to be really loud and you know you'd cuss a lot and that's not gonna change. And you know he said is one of my favorite words. Okay, he said to me it just gave off this kind of fake-ish energy and it was kind of negative and it was a turnoff and I didn't like to be around you. And because I was able to give him the context and he was able to understand that he was able to say then I know, now I feel like you did that because you weren't sure of yourself, and so then you would double down and like go even bigger or whatever. And I didn't get any of that in talking to you this time.
Speaker 1:He said this time he said for lack of a better term, it just seemed normal, you know, you were calm and you were yourself and you were sure of yourself and you didn't need anything extra on there. And my father said the very exact same thing. And it's because, I think, you know, through a lot of hard work and through going through this plant medicine ceremony, like any other gay shame that I had like, I found the root causes, the root causes and I was able to just kind of eliminate them and overcome them and see them for what they were. Because as a child you don't have the emotional intelligence, you don't have the mental capacity or the life experience to understand what things actually are. And then they say between zero and seven, or it may even be between before age zero, like in the womb. That is when your subconscious mind is becoming fertile, and then it stops and it runs your life from then on.
Speaker 1:And now I've been able to be like. No, those things that I always those core beliefs that I always thought were true, they're not true.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know when you. What your dad said rings true for me and it reminds me of when I was in my twenties and I was just starting to accept myself and this idea that I was gay.
Speaker 2:I had a real problem with flamboyant and effeminate men because and this goes back to what your brother had talked about and your father and also you said that you don't feel like you're not any more, any less dramatic or whatever. I think what it comes down to is the intention. Are they or were you behaving in a way that was number one result of you not liking yourself and so, as your brother said, doubling down? Or Are you behaving in a way because it's a response? It's a reaction to Some self-hatred or some intention in yourself to hide, and I think that was what was the disconnect for me as I was growing up, because I'm very intuitive and I can I can tell in a real Heartbeat whether somebody's being authentic and truthful to them to themselves as well as others and that there's a, there's a dissonance for me. So when I see somebody who is just simply being flamboyant, because that's the nature of who they are and they just simply go through the world spreading that joy and love, I don't have a problem with that.
Speaker 2:But when, alright, it's not a problem, there's a flag in my head now it's just oh, that's interesting. But when I see somebody who is actively behaving in a way to cover up or to mask or to be something other than who they are and they're acting, that's when I am alerted and I'm like, oh, okay, this person is not being authentic and that may have been what your, your father and your brother interpreted, because your behavior was so much that you were just like, okay, I'm gonna behave in a way that puts everybody down and I'm gonna be the loudest, most you know, cussing, flamboyant, whatever Because I want to be heard and seen and loved and I don't know how else to do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think that that definitely played a part, for sure, and it's something that, again, I didn't, it's not even something I had to work on. It just kind of happened as I accepted, like fully accepted, and like began to really Actually fully love myself. It just yeah, it just happened. You know, and I do, I feel so much more sure of myself than I ever have before. And you know, I am finding one of the things that they taught us going through the, the treatment program, was radical acceptance, and I adopted that very quickly because, let me tell you, before I went through that program in my past life, I was totally gonna go ape shit, karen, on someone if I needed to Like what do you mean?
Speaker 1:That? This is no, no, no, no, this is unacceptable. And you know, like, make it happen, all right, like. And so I learned radical acceptance and I adopted that and I still use it to this day and I'm very flexible, very go with the flow, adaptable, easy, it's not a big deal. It's not a big deal and it's outside of my control and getting mad over it is only gonna make it worse for me. I did that amazingly for the outside world, and what I'm finding now is I'm practicing radical love and radical acceptance for myself and that's like a light bulb aha moment.
Speaker 2:There's the title of your book Radical yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, unstoppable, love.
Speaker 2:Radically unstoppable love.
Speaker 1:For sure, awesome. Well, we are just about out of time. So, theo, thank you so much for coming on my podcast. It is, oh, it's been such a pleasure having you on here and I will absolutely have you back again. Why don't you let everyone know how they can contact you, send you DM, social, anything like that?
Speaker 2:Sure. So all the social is mr Theo bill. Mr Theo bill, and you can find me at the old bill calm.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Well, thank you so much for coming on. I look forward to the next time you're on here and All of you out there listening. Go out and have an unstoppable day. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 2:Absolutely awesome, thank you.
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