The Cringe is Real
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The Cringe is Real
The Real Housewives of Sydney - S03E08 (w/ Minnie Cooper)
The DIVA of Drag Race Down Under Minnie Cooper joins Sam to bat back at these Sydney Housewives.. And the balls are in our court. We are finally back in Sydney and the girls have ACTIVATED. Caroline and Terry get dirty in the Westfield Tower, and Nicole’s excuses were all over the place. The dolls also discuss Katy Perry's floptana mission to space and some Beverly Hills and Salt Lake City.
This podcast was produced on the land of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin
Intro:Nation.
Sam Cremean:Hello, hello, hello, Mini Cooper. How you going?
Minnie Cooper:I'm very well. How are you? Thanks for having me today. So
Sam Cremean:good to have you back. It's been a little while since season two.
Minnie Cooper:Well, that was the only reason I realized it was two years ago. I
Sam Cremean:know.
Minnie Cooper:Oh, because I saw the years on the binge.
Sam Cremean:Yeah, I love how binge you're calling the seasons now, like 2016 and 2023. I'm like, okay, sure.
Minnie Cooper:I say take it back to season one cast because I can't stand these ladies. Oh my
Sam Cremean:God. They really, yeah. This season, I tell you, it's going left field quick and I'm living for every second of it.
Minnie Cooper:Do you know who I blame for why I don't like it so much? Whoever casts the show, they're not good at finding the right mix of chemistry of women. Likeable. They're just not likeable.
Sam Cremean:Well, did you see that woman they didn't cast that smashed up a car? No! Did you see that? It was on the news. There was this woman who like... And I mean, I haven't deep dived, obviously, but it was just a little news clip about this woman driving a car around Sydney drunk. And then it turns out she was one of the backup cast members for this season. And I was like, that could have been a whole storyline. Missed
Minnie Cooper:opportunity. Yeah, they should... That's who we need. We need someone like her. Someone messy. Yes. They're sort of messy, but it's just sort of interesting. I don't know. I can't put my finger on it. I don't find it a fun kind of messy.
Sam Cremean:Okay. I get what you mean. I think it was fun when they were on the girls' trip because they didn't have Nicole and Caroline there who are agitating a few of the other cast members. So they were able to get on. I think that was a big theme of this week's episode. They chilled out a little bit.
Minnie Cooper:I have to do. No, no, no. I agree with you. But my favorite thing when I got out of this episode, Martine was at the party where she wasn't getting a word in and got all upset and she left. Because obviously they don't talk about the topics that she's interested in. Was that what she said? Something like that? If I remember correctly?
Sam Cremean:Yeah. She was like, well, first it was... i'm bored of you guys then it was i can't get a word in so i don't know i think she's just oh it's not about her for two seconds she's like see ya
Minnie Cooper:i know and she said because i think at the time they were all talking about getting botox and she goes i just don't like women who talk like that then in this episode i'm going to do my favorite thing getting pampered and done i'm like go oh i can't I just can't stand her. I know. She never comes back. She goes, my favourite part of this episode from her was this. I've just been sitting relaxing. Okay, taking selfies. It's really relaxing.
Sam Cremean:Hey, before we get further into this week's episode, we do need to discuss It's a Woman's World now and we're living in it. Katy Perry went to space for 11 seconds, doll. 11 minutes even.
Minnie Cooper:I did see someone say, who cares that a bunch of rich women have gone to space for 11 seconds? Are they out of touch? Do you
Sam Cremean:think so? The whole thing was so, it's such a non-event, wasn't it? All this build up and like, oh, it's kind of like a grinder hookup that happens for 11 minutes and you forget about it the next day.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, 11 minutes is just not that long. No.
Sam Cremean:Would you go into space? I
Minnie Cooper:don't know. I've never really thought about it. If it was safe, yes. If I thought it was safe.
Sam Cremean:Who from your drag sisterhood would you take with you? If you had to build an all-drag cast of characters to go on a space voyage?
Minnie Cooper:Do they have to be people that... Do they have to be people that have been on Drag Race? No,
Sam Cremean:anyone from the scene.
Minnie Cooper:Okay, I'd take Temmie Brown.
Sam Cremean:She's already in space. I know. She'll meet you up there.
Minnie Cooper:I loved it. Hannah, I'd take Tora Hyman. I'd take Vanity. And who else would I take? Calm and Charisma, and that'd be enough.
Sam Cremean:Stunning.
Minnie Cooper:That'd be a good bunch.
Sam Cremean:And I wish you all a safe journey. I hope you all return.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, because drag would be so miserable if we didn't. I can tell you that much.
Sam Cremean:Unfortunately for us, Katie did return safely.
Minnie Cooper:Isn't it funny? Katy Perry, she's gone through it, hasn't she? Because I really like Katy Perry. Yeah. She's had a bit of a rough drop in the last album or so, hasn't she? Yeah. The fans
Sam Cremean:turned, or people just turned very quickly, didn't
Minnie Cooper:they? Aren't fans just fickle?
Sam Cremean:Also, how dare a woman age? It's very like, oh, she's old now. She's boring. It's like, okay.
Minnie Cooper:And also too, I did find A Woman's World was a bit like, it was a drag race.
Sam Cremean:Oh, yeah.
Minnie Cooper:It felt like so. It was giving
Sam Cremean:rusical.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, wasn't it? It was so giving rusical. I think it was probably written by the same people.
Sam Cremean:You told me before, so you've given up on season 17 and like, girl, same, but I am watching it in the background while I fold my laundry.
Minnie Cooper:I don't know why. I started, so first I wasn't interested in watching because I had drag burnout, but then I started watching because I heard people said it was really good, but They just didn't really offer me anything I hadn't seen before. I did sort of like the drama a little bit, but I just got bored. Yeah. And I'm going to watch the final just for Liza Minnelli because that's going to be iconic.
Sam Cremean:So iconic. When I saw that photo come up of her on that throne, I was like...
Minnie Cooper:It's pretty amazing because out of all the guests they had, let's face it, she's probably going to be the most iconic one unless they're like... Unless you get a Cher or a Dolly. That's it.
Sam Cremean:Yeah, true. We're running out of icons.
Minnie Cooper:Do you think Kylie Minogue's going to get like Cher, Dolly Parton kind of status? Absolutely. Absolutely.
Sam Cremean:Yeah. Did you go to the tour?
Minnie Cooper:No, no, I didn't go to the tour. I don't like going to concerts
Sam Cremean:because
Minnie Cooper:I don't get anything out of it. They're this small. It's so
Sam Cremean:true. Unless you're like... At the very front. It's like, seriously.
Minnie Cooper:I saw Mariah at the front. I love that. Oh, amazing. And she's camp. She's so camp. I'm not moving on until it's ready.
Sam Cremean:Were you holding the wind machine? Yeah. Is that how close you were?
Minnie Cooper:Oh, I could have. But I was doing no work. She's hilarious. She's the best.
Sam Cremean:Mariah is so good. All right, shall we hop into this week's episode of The Real Housewives of Sydney? Before we do, you can follow The Cringes Real on Blue Sky, Instagram and TikTok. And it's your last chance to get tickets to my live show. I'm doing a live podcast recording this Friday night at the Railway Hotel in in North Fitzroy. So get your tickets, girlies.
Minnie Cooper:And what are you doing on that live podcast? Oh, we're
Sam Cremean:talking about everything. We're talking about Drag Race. We're talking about Maths. We're talking about Australian Survivor. It's just going to be a camp old time. So come and join us.
Minnie Cooper:Oh, okay. Right. I mean, you'll be in Sydney. Are you open on Friday? On Good Friday?
Sam Cremean:The pub is, yeah. I mean, I hope they are because we've booked a show.
Minnie Cooper:Actually, I think pubs are open here, but they shut early. Actually,
Sam Cremean:it's so funny. We're about to go to Queenstown with the ladies. And I remember I was there for Christmas last year. And what day? It must have been Christmas Eve or something. A public holiday. And they wouldn't serve alcohol to us. It's like New Zealand law on this public holiday. We went in to buy... a cocktail and the staff were like, oh no, you can't have an alcoholic beverage today. Right. And I was like, excuse me? What? Pretty sure Christmas is the time that I would be requiring. I am on a holiday with my parents and my husband. I need to be drunk.
Minnie Cooper:I need to not remember this. Exactly.
Sam Cremean:Oh my God. This episode is called Game Set and Rematch. Obviously, you know, throwing us to our tennis game we get later on, but we start in bloody Queenstown. Yes. We're still there. I'm like, I'm ready to go home. I'm not even on this trip.
Minnie Cooper:And so was Martine. Martine checked
Sam Cremean:out
Minnie Cooper:day one. She was out. But she was very good. She sent everyone a personal text. Good on her.
Sam Cremean:Oh my God. Don't you love as well? They keep saying every time they talk about it, like in the, in the previously on, Sally's like, oh, and Martine walked out of the margarita bar. And then later on, they're like, oh, that time that Martine walked out of the margarita bar. Like, not the
Minnie Cooper:margarita bar. So good. What's your whole take of her walking out of the margarita bar?
Sam Cremean:I mean, she got her camera time moment. I think that's what she was going for. If that's it, then power to her, really. Yeah. But also, I don't understand.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, I just don't get her that kind of person i just don't find her very warm or likable i don't think she'd have very many friends
Sam Cremean:well it seems like it and it seems like she's yeah she's trying to make her and her husband a thing on the show which
Minnie Cooper:but you know what he seems he seems quite nice
Sam Cremean:he does he entertained the gold face masks later
Minnie Cooper:on so i liked that he's actually quite likable and yeah Isn't that funny, but I can't stand it. There's something about her that doesn't connect with me. I don't want to say hate.
Sam Cremean:I think, like, walking out of the margarita bar, whatever. The getting their own villa thing, which I do feel the producers had a hand in, but that aside. Because it just, I don't know, it was already there. Like, I don't know. But the way that they, the Bobsey twins, Victoria and Martine, the way they just did that, I don't know, if that was me on a trip and someone did that, I'd be like, how annoying.
Minnie Cooper:Oh, if you had just done it at the door, he'd be on the way out.
Sam Cremean:Also, for what? So you can avoid some dick jokes? Like, just come on. You're a big girl, so you can laugh off a few dick jokes.
Minnie Cooper:And I suppose this is why I like Chrissy so much. And I wish there were more. Because I think she, for someone that's got... money. She's got champagne pockets, but a beer bottle mouth.
Intro:Yep.
Minnie Cooper:But they're all so easily offended.
Sam Cremean:They're snowflake city, these girls. They're ready to clutch those pearls. They're waiting to do it. And some of the stuff. This episode is riddled with text etiquette
Minnie Cooper:drama. And I'm
Sam Cremean:like, come on, girls. Firstly, my note to you all, Stop texting each other and start having conversations on camera, please. Yes! Because we have no idea what's going on. It's so boring to watch. I'm like, who texts who about what? And they're offended. Like, fucking who cares? And
Minnie Cooper:I think this is what's the problem from my point of view. I have a problem with Housewives of Sydney. You look at Salt Lake City, for example. The
Sam Cremean:peak, the pinnacle.
Minnie Cooper:But they know what they've signed up for. They come in, they sign up. And they go, they have, they go. Every episode is like
Intro:a...
Minnie Cooper:But these girls, they don't do that. They're all trying to make themselves, we want to be, I'm this and this perfection. That doesn't work for reality television. That's not what you want from a housewife. What did I hear Andy Cohen say once? A good housewife is one that is totally transparent, is willing to have but willing to get it over and move on. That's it. They're the best housewives because they can keep having conflict and moving and moving.
Sam Cremean:And apparently it's what Jackie Gillies told the girls when they met up recently for their little watch party. Oh,
Minnie Cooper:Joanne. Oh,
Sam Cremean:sorry, Jillian.
Minnie Cooper:I was like, oh, we've got to get to
Sam Cremean:that. Oh, we will. But no, apparently she told the ladies that when they shot Melbourne after every scene, they would meet off camera and just have a drink and a giggle about it. And they would just move the fuck on. And she was like, please do that. Cause they need to like the fact that today we get Nicole and Terry, like not having seen each other for like a year or something. That's not okay with me. Like, come on.
Minnie Cooper:But I was sort of loving it. I mean,
Sam Cremean:it was, it was fun. The awkwardness was fine. fun but also I would rather it's if it was about something that I can buy into, sure. But I don't even know what it's about at this point. What, she was late in Japan or something?
Minnie Cooper:Oh, no. The arguments are all about their social etiquette. Yeah, true. You didn't send a text. You were late for me. You don't respect. It's all. Policing
Sam Cremean:each other's behavior, isn't it? Yeah, that's what it is. But not about anything big enough, in my opinion. Like, they're all got, they're living pretty well if their biggest issue in life
Intro:is. Five
Sam Cremean:minutes
Minnie Cooper:late. If that's your biggest point. Girl, yeah. And this is why I like Chrissy because she's sort of gone, okay, we've got to move on from this. Yes, I'm going to give you the apology because that's what you need, even if it's not sorry. But also having fun and acknowledging, oh, we used to fight. Oh, no, I can't say that. That's fun. I can relate to that. So she's acknowledging that it's been awkward, but it's also fun. She can laugh at herself.
Sam Cremean:And Kate, too. I've got to say, Kate has grown on me so much. I'm really enjoying her this season. She's got the funniest confessionals. She's got this, like, bogan kind of read on everything. She's like, oh, get fucked. It's like, I'm really warming to Kate.
Minnie Cooper:I'm not sold on her. You're
Sam Cremean:not? No. Fair enough. She's, yeah, definitely sticks out from the rest of them.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, and I think it's the whole thing. They don't feel like they're friends. They feel like they're all working. I don't know how the other... Like even Beverly Hills, I know they're not friends with this chemistry between the women, where I just don't feel this chemistry between these women. That's what the disconnect is. But there was chemistry in this episode.
Sam Cremean:Yeah, that's the thing. I feel like they're building it, but it's taken a while. Over at the other villa, the Bobsy twins are chatting and Victoria asks Martine, oh, how do you feel about lunch, darling? Do you think you could make it to lunch? And she's like, oh. I just don't think that I can. Fucking hell. Would it kill you to rock up to shoot for one scene, have a lovely lunch, and then hop on the plane with everyone? Like, girlina.
Minnie Cooper:I'm glad she didn't go.
Sam Cremean:Me too. I mean, I love when they all talk about her when she's not there. That is
Minnie Cooper:great too.
Sam Cremean:Yeah. But, yeah.
Minnie Cooper:Because, like, I just don't even like the way she argues. So you tell me what I'm saying.
Sam Cremean:Oh, it's intense. She does already, like, do her pre-excuse stuff. She's like, look, well, I'm off the hook because I've sent a text and I know that this group are very big on you just have to send a text. Like, Nicole didn't send a text when she didn't rock up. to the healing, but I've sent a text. So therefore I'm fine. And I'm like, the fact that they left that in, I was like, here we go. You're not, you're not off the hook doll. We'll say then at lunch, Chris, fuck. I love Chrissy. She's like, you know, she's five skinny bitches at this point. And she's like, oh, look, Kate, I want to ask about your boyfriend, but I won't.
Minnie Cooper:I'm not going to do it. This is why I like her. She's actually, I think she's the only one that's probably the most self-aware.
Sam Cremean:Totally. And she can take a joke.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, yeah, totally. I agree.
Sam Cremean:Yeah. And she knows that she can be boisterous and talking loud and like prying and all that. And she's just like, fuck it. That's who I am. You know, if you don't like it,
Minnie Cooper:Do you think when someone like Kate now has warmed to her, she realizes, because I don't think Chrissy ever had really ever been intense towards Kate ever. I really think it was all meant to be lighthearted.
Sam Cremean:She thinks she's funny and telling jokes and stuff. And it's, yeah, it rubs people the wrong way when they're this snowflakey.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, I agree. I think I like her.
Sam Cremean:I love how Terry sips on those skinny bitches. There were these shots at this lunch and she was like, like her, the posture of her, like she's got a straight back, the strength of those cheeks sucking on that straw. I was like,
Intro:oh.
Sam Cremean:What's your opinion on her? I mean, she's carrying the fucking show, in my opinion. Like, who's the Biv? She's a heavyweight champion. These bitches can't even try to take her down. She just does not give a fuck.
Minnie Cooper:Do you think she does Gaslight? I mean,
Sam Cremean:yeah. I think she plays dirty and I love it. And I think the whole thing with her and was it? Joanne or Jillian, the psychic. I think the whole thing with her absolutely was like a so-called set up, like everyone's saying, but like, no shit. This show needed something like that to happen or else what the fuck were we going to watch? Just Martine getting facials for a whole season. Sorry. Like, come on. I'm sick of them going, oh, she set us up with Jackie. Fuck. Yeah. Have you seen the show before, Dole? You do sound healing. You do dumb
Minnie Cooper:stuff. Get involved. I know. I know. And I just thought, what was my other favourite part? This Nicole. I really did like Nicole. I actually like Nicole. I like that she walked straight up to Terry at the match and goes, sorry, I'm just apologising.
Sam Cremean:So good.
Minnie Cooper:It
Sam Cremean:was fabulous.
Minnie Cooper:Not sorry for
Sam Cremean:anything else. Just, oh, sorry, I didn't text and didn't come. To your little healing thing, whatever that was. How was that, by the way?
Minnie Cooper:I sort of thought that was heaven. And it wasn't, it was hitting what it was going. She knew what she was walking into. I just got, I'm going to hit this right on the head. Apology. And what could she say? Cause I've apologized.
Sam Cremean:Sally says without Caroline and Nicole on the trip, Kate and Chrissy have been able to bond and it's been real cute.
Minnie Cooper:I'd agree with that.
Sam Cremean:Sally's been good this season. I think she's like speaking her mind a little bit more.
Minnie Cooper:She's
Sam Cremean:involved.
Minnie Cooper:I reckon, generally, in real life, she'd be a really sweet lady. Actually, I really like her
Sam Cremean:as
Minnie Cooper:well. Yeah, yeah. But I love them putting pity on her because she's got cancer, so you don't get
Sam Cremean:called out.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah. And I love that she went straight in. How dare you? I thought
Sam Cremean:that was
Minnie Cooper:fabulous. She's got balls. I like that.
Sam Cremean:She does. Everyone got an identical text, but sent separately, not in a group chat. And this becomes... The etiquette of discussion. And then Chrissy said the funniest shit. She's like, oh, you go girl. I wish I could learn how to do all this cut and paste
Minnie Cooper:business. It was pretty
Sam Cremean:good. So good. I'm like, Chrissy does not know how to use a phone.
Minnie Cooper:No, she doesn't.
Sam Cremean:Have you seen her videos where she's like, oh, off to lunch with the girls? She's like out the door. Yeah,
Minnie Cooper:she also does videos about self-awareness and mental health, actually, as well. Oh,
Sam Cremean:really? Yeah. Those ones don't make my algorithm.
Minnie Cooper:That's what I... Because I listen to it and I go, oh, that's the person who you are. Because, you know, reality TV and the person who you are can be two separate things.
Sam Cremean:Definitely. I think she's, yeah, having fun and, like, happy to play into it a little bit, which you have to be to go on this show. Oh,
Minnie Cooper:yeah. It's like when they were telling Nicole... You just can't do this. You just can't hate it. And she went, I don't think she probably would have really done that in real life, but she really did escalate. I'm loving this.
Sam Cremean:And then the conversation about text etiquette continues, and I was like, come on, let's wrap this up. Chrissy says, look, it's going to be hard when they get back to Sydney because they've all bonded on this trip. They've moved forward, but some of the others, Caroline, is still back in Sydney. you know, square one. So this will be good to see how this plays out. And then we finally make it back to Sydney, which is stunning. And Martine gets her face mask with her husband as payback for going on the golf date,
Minnie Cooper:which was... She doesn't like women talking about their Botox or body care. But it's her favourite thing to do when she's home with her husband. Yeah,
Sam Cremean:she doesn't strike me as a girl's girl. Like, I'm like, yeah.
Minnie Cooper:No, I just... I hope she doesn't come back.
Sam Cremean:You reckon she'll leave?
Minnie Cooper:I just... I don't think that... I wouldn't ask her back if I was a producer.
Sam Cremean:Oh, really? See, I think she's... stirring shit which i'm enjoying but yeah you're right i don't know if there's enough see
Minnie Cooper:i like it if i someone i like some of the stir shit that you like like terry you can you can get into terry so as much as i don't like like elisa renner I love Elisa Renner. Totally. She
Sam Cremean:stirs shit, but then you love it. Well, not everyone loves her, but I do.
Minnie Cooper:Well, I think poor Elisa Renner, she just copped too much trolling. But they all want her back now. The fans want her back. Yeah, because
Sam Cremean:we've had three seasons of fucking Snooze Town talking about Garcelle's Beach House. So, yes, we do need her back.
Minnie Cooper:I think it's in general on Housewives when they're polarising, there's always a time when that happens to all of them. And she was really
Sam Cremean:polarised. Mm-mm. I did love that the gold paint really made Martine look like C-3PO,
Intro:which
Minnie Cooper:is
Sam Cremean:confirming my theory she's a robot. So thanks for that.
Minnie Cooper:Do you think she's a Stepford Wife? Maybe she's a Stepford Wife.
Sam Cremean:She's a robot that's been programmed to be a Stepford Wife. It's actually Black Mirror Season 8. Caroline and Chrissy catch up for a Bloody Mary, having a break from the Skinny Bitches. And Chrissy rubs it in that she was, she's like trying to be like, she's like, New Zealand was great. You missed out. We went, there was an ice cock. There was a helicopter. And then hang on. Caroline is busy de-linting
Minnie Cooper:her boots. That's hysterical. I was like, that's
Sam Cremean:it. Ikea de-linter thing. These looks, we've got to talk about Caroline's looks.
Minnie Cooper:I want to talk about all of their looks. Okay. Look how Cherry and Caroline turned up for a drink to have a fight. Like her and that leather? That
Sam Cremean:leather glove. We'll get to that glove. The cow, the cow birthing glove. I loved that look. She looked sickening. Oh,
Minnie Cooper:love the look, but do you wear that to lunch?
Sam Cremean:Yeah. Terrible.
Minnie Cooper:Oh, I just wanted to say.
Sam Cremean:Caroline looked hot too at that lunch. They both knew they had to look hot because they knew that that was, they're using every frame of that.
Minnie Cooper:They are, right? Do you think, how rich do you think Caroline is?
Sam Cremean:I have no idea, but- I mean, she's what? On her own in an apartment. Babe, I have no idea. I feel like everyone that lives in Sydney is rich because I don't know how you guys afford to do it.
Minnie Cooper:But it just seems like different kind of rich from the other ladies. Does that make sense?
Sam Cremean:Yeah. I don't know. They keep all their cards pretty close to their chest. It's very Australian, isn't it? Like you don't talk about how much money you have.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, but you'll show it off in what you're driving. Because she doesn't drive a car either, does she, Carola?
Sam Cremean:I don't know. She does talk about getting stuck in the doggy door. Oh, no, which is quite funny. The big bolt-ons wouldn't let her through. I would... How did we not get that on camera? Like, the things that they talk about this season that were not caught on camera, I'm like, guys... Get a different camera crew. We need them 24-7. I
Minnie Cooper:think that's part of the problem. They're too worried about how they're going to look on camera. I think Chrissy is the only one that's really relaxed in front of the camera.
Sam Cremean:Yeah, Chrissy's just having a laugh. Yeah. I think she's the most similar on and off camera, I would say. And maybe Kate. Yeah.
Minnie Cooper:Kate. Oh, yeah. She's done reality TV before, didn't she do?
Sam Cremean:Oh, Bondivet or
Minnie Cooper:something. Yeah, she was on Bondivet.
Sam Cremean:But she is very different in her confessionals, though. She's very comfortable throwing shade in a confessional, but they're not so comfortable directly to face, I think.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, that's true, actually.
Sam Cremean:But they all are.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, that's so true, isn't it? Actually, you know who's the only one that I think is really honest? Confessually, the same as Sally.
Sam Cremean:Sally's consistent, for sure.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, she's consistent, but all the rest... Terry maybe as well, actually, to be honest. She'll say it to your face.
Sam Cremean:Fuck yeah, she will. With a knife in her hand.
Minnie Cooper:I can't wait till we get to the tennis lunch. That was my favourite part. Oh, it's so good.
Sam Cremean:Where are we? Chrissy tells Caroline she apologized to Kate and they've moved on. She's like, it's not as hard as you think. You just rip it off like a band-aid and they show us said apology in a
Minnie Cooper:flashback. So nothing. But you know what's weird? I can't work out why they hate each other.
Sam Cremean:I've completely forgotten. Was it like she made a comment when they first met? She was being a bit judgy. I think Chrissy puts her foot in it, doesn't she? Oh, the pat. I
Minnie Cooper:think Caroline and Kate had a fight because she thought Kate was just putting it on for the cameras. Her mum was sick or something and she thought it was all an act. That's right, when they were on that boat. And it was all
Sam Cremean:an act. Which makes sense as to why Caroline is so... Activative. Because I think she is... There's... family stuff involved and she's taken it to heart.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, that makes sense. Because I don't think a lot of Caroline stuff is justified. Well, no,
Sam Cremean:and I wish she would make sense because it's like, She probably does, if she's just feeling upset about that, I wish she'd just say that instead of just calling everyone fat and ugly. Like some of her lines, I'm like, Caroline, girl, you're just being a bitch now. I
Minnie Cooper:don't think she's very, to be honest, I don't think she's very self-aware or very emotionally, and she's not emotionally bright. Like she can't process her emotions properly. She can't self-regulate.
Sam Cremean:Yeah. Totally. But she's, and she thinks, cause she's working with some like gay fashion designers that we're all going to be like, yes, mama. But it's like, no honey, we need more from
Intro:you.
Sam Cremean:Yeah. So Chrissy's like, it's really easy. You just apologize and move on. And then this is when Caroline first goes, yeah, look, I don't know. What was her name? Jill. I know! Jess, I screeched. And then for her to double down later on.
Minnie Cooper:And the funniest thing is about that, she obviously hasn't watched The Real Housewives of Melbourne.
Sam Cremean:See, I think... That's weird. Even if you didn't, I think you know who she is. I think she absolutely knows who she is. And this is bad acting. Really? Do you think she knows? I think so. Because later on when she does it, it looks really forced. She's like, oh, Gillian, like... And it's like the names are almost there and it's, oh, it's too much.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, because I was like, yeah, maybe. Yeah, because you would think you would watch Real Housewives of Melbourne just because you're in the franchise now. You'd watch their season. You'd think, wouldn't
Sam Cremean:you? Well, maybe she didn't actually know who it was. But I think since then someone has told her and she's choosing to not
Minnie Cooper:remember. But it's sort of heaven, though. But it's so... Jill. I
Sam Cremean:want Jackie to do, like, a TikTok about it or something. I need to see Jackie's response.
Minnie Cooper:I think she will, actually. To
Sam Cremean:Carol. Oh, my God, they're all calling her Carol.
Minnie Cooper:Oh, no. Stop. And Cherry Soros Rex.
Sam Cremean:Amazing.
Minnie Cooper:The gloves are
Sam Cremean:coming off. The leather glove is coming off, darlings. Meanwhile, Nicole and Victoria have a dirty martini. And they catch up on the New Zealand trip as well. Victoria tells Nicole that Martine walked out of a margarita bar, if you haven't
Intro:heard. Really? Was she upset?
Sam Cremean:Oh, she walked out, did she? And then also we talk about the renaissance of Kate. So everyone's kind of back on board with Kate, which I'm like, this is good. I like this for Kate. She needs, she deserves this.
Minnie Cooper:And we, you know, we do like to see our women on the house sometimes bonding and having a good time. We do enjoy it.
Sam Cremean:God forbid.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah. Yeah. We actually do. As much as we love drama, we like them seeing them being friends and kind to each other. We do. We like both.
Sam Cremean:Nicole brings up that, Terry and Jackie are mates. So the healing was a setup and it just didn't feel right in my gut, you know. Okay, Nicole. So it's evident that They just didn't want to go. So they should, I just wish they would stand in their fucking truth and be like, I didn't want to go.
Minnie Cooper:So speaking of, because I think she's being a bit like, it is an excuse that her daughters had. It's
Sam Cremean:excuse overlap. And then it's like, she forgets which one she went with almost.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah. It's sort of like, she probably did go to a, she probably ended up going doing things with the daughters, but it wasn't, but she could have gone to whatever it was. The healing thing. Yeah. The healing thing.
Sam Cremean:They talk about the upcoming tennis charity event.
Minnie Cooper:But I think Nicole's avoidant.
Sam Cremean:Oh, 100%. She's very avoidant. And then get this. Did you clock this? Victoria Montano, the... Famous anti-woo girl that famously hates dick jokes makes a ball joke. She goes, oh, I'm good with balls.
Intro:And
Sam Cremean:I'm like, no, honey, you don't get to get your own villa in Queenstown to hide from dick jokes to then the next episode make a bloody dick joke or a balls on the menu. Okay. Balls are okay. Balls are okay. As soon as you get to that shaft, it's lowbrow.
Minnie Cooper:That's so funny. Then
Sam Cremean:we get a hot second at the IVF clinic. Kate and Terry. Terry's very into, Terry's being mumsy here. She's being, you know, there's people that are like, oh, you've got to have kids. Oh, why haven't you had kids yet? Have kids. You've got to have kids. She's doing that. And it's kind of annoying. Like, back off.
Minnie Cooper:I did think in my head. She goes, oh, my wounds, it's like a dog's wound. That's because you're a bitch. That's what I thought.
Sam Cremean:When she said, oh, there's my uterus. Oh, it looks like a dog's uterus. I was like, that's a That's a soundbite that you don't want on the internet, but sure.
Minnie Cooper:It was like throwing shade at yourself. It was quite funny.
Sam Cremean:She's good like that though. And I mean, you know, vets, they've seen it all. They're putting dogs down on the bloody daily. So if you can't make a joke about your own uterus.
Minnie Cooper:What can you do?
Sam Cremean:Exactly. And good news, she's got plenty of eggs. So that's exciting for Dr. Kate. Then we get the tennis event. So the girls rock up. It's the first time that Nicole and Terry have been in the same place. Well, the same place where they've acknowledged each other's existence because apparently there was Melbourne Cup and Dubai Airport and wherever else the fuck they met and ignored
Minnie Cooper:each other. They have not been on camera this season together, have they? No, but we've
Sam Cremean:heard stories about them being at the same events. Yes. They've both ignored each other. And it's that thing where it's like, Am I ignoring you or are you ignoring me? Ignoring me. We've all got someone out there that we do that to. Do you know? Loads. Too many. More than I'd care for. But, you know, we've all done a sneaky, oh, didn't see you there.
Minnie Cooper:But the thing is, when you sign up for reality television, that's the game. If you're going to sign up for reality television, come in and have the conflict.
Sam Cremean:Well, I think in Nicole's defence, and this is all speculative, but I understand that Terry signed on late. So Nicole could have actually... have thought that she wasn't going to have to deal with Terry because Terry wasn't going to be on the season. So I reckon that's why Nicole signed up. And then as soon as Terry was introduced later on, she was like, fuck this.
Minnie Cooper:Well, I thought it was a rule. If a housewife didn't turn up to the reunion, their contract was killed.
Sam Cremean:Yeah, but that's probably a Bravo rule. This is some fucking kangaroo court down here. No, no, no, no. I don't give a shit. Like, they literally called Joel Creasy the day before and they're like, hey, babes, we're doing the reunion. Like, it's, yeah.
Intro:Yeah.
Minnie Cooper:Do you reckon we'll get a reunion this season? I don't think they've announced as such yet, but sure. Oh, yeah, well, I think we'll get a reunion.
Sam Cremean:Yeah,
Minnie Cooper:yeah. Because it's not like, did they have a reunion for season one? They
Sam Cremean:did. They did. Oh, no, I'm having Alex Perry flashbacks, but maybe they didn't. because it didn't continue. Yeah,
Minnie Cooper:because it was really tumultuous, their season. That was
Sam Cremean:like...
Minnie Cooper:I have to go back and watch it, actually. Do you know what they're missing? Remember the kooky one from season one that was like, Oh, she was like, well, bizarre fashion. She was like.
Sam Cremean:Athena X. Yes.
Minnie Cooper:We need someone like, it's all, we need a personality like that. There's
Sam Cremean:no one kind of quirky. They're all a bit like Dr. Kate is the most quirky and that's only compared to these other women that are very straight and narrow. Like if they think that a doctor, dick and ball joke is crossing the line. Like, yeah, they're pretty conservatron. Like, so we rock up. The girls pile in. Caroline in confessional pretty much calls Kate fat. She's like, oh, Kate and I are wearing the same skirt, you know, different sizes. Oh, no. Diva. Low blows. Yeah.
Minnie Cooper:Fat shaming.
Sam Cremean:I think, yeah, I think Caroline's like kind of radar on what the fans want to hear a little bit off. I think she needs a gay to help write some bits for confessional. Cause it's like, that's not landing for me. I don't think that's landing well for anyone. Like body shaming. We left in the 2000s doll.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah. Yeah. Slut shaming and body shaming. No
Sam Cremean:good. You just, you got to move on. And then Nicole says, jump straight in with an apology, but only for not letting her know about not coming to the healing
Minnie Cooper:session. But you know, I love so much, I really sorted what I loved about it, that she went straight up to her, apologised straight, and then her and Victoria were like, sorted, sorted.
Sam Cremean:And then, Terry takes it. Terry's like, look, it was a shit apology, but it's all I'm going to get. It's all she's capable of giving, she says. And do you know what? I've been that person. I've had some shit apologies from people, but that's all you're going to get. Bloody take it. Move on.
Minnie Cooper:Most people don't even apologise.
Sam Cremean:Yeah, some people find it really difficult. Yeah. They hit the ball around for a bit, which was... Whatever. And then finally sit down for some cocktails and lunch.
Minnie Cooper:I love a passive aggressive lunch.
Sam Cremean:This was next level.
Minnie Cooper:You know, it was great being away when someone couldn't be manipulated. It's like, I can't believe you're
Intro:saying that out loud.
Sam Cremean:They couldn't help themselves. Like straight away, the jabs were flying, the barbs in each direction. Kate's like, yeah, the energy is so different from New Zealand. And then Nicole says that she's got a wide range of friends. She's very well-rounded. She knows all kinds of people, which I'm like, oh, okay. What are you trying to say about Terry then? And it's, yeah, she's pretty stuck up, our girl, Nicole. Like, let's be real.
Minnie Cooper:You know what I sort of love? She sat there and she was, she was being passive aggressive as well, but she wasn't, She wasn't getting heated. With Terry, you could tell she was firing up. But Nicole just sat there quite calmly.
Sam Cremean:She was calm, but she looked flustered. She had not been looking forward to this for a long time. She'd built it up in her head as this thing she had to do. Got a bloody film with Terry. She knows Terry's such a bulldog, so she's not going to look great.
Minnie Cooper:She was almost a bit like a mob's wife. Do you know what I mean? I'm going to go there, but I'm going to be calm.
Sam Cremean:Tensions are high, to say the least. Terry tells us Caroline is the one that needs to be on an apology tour. Starting with Kate, but also her for that text message. And I loved that. I was like, yeah, she should.
Minnie Cooper:But I'd like to apologise to Nicole. What was the apology to Nicole for again? Was it about the wellness thing? Sorry. Sorry. Oh, it was about the wellness. Sorry, I didn't accept you not going to the wellness and forcing you and making you have to go. I'm so sorry. That's what it was about. That was our apology.
Sam Cremean:As long as it wasn't about text etiquette, which is the next part of the discussion. So they're like texting each other and not texting each other. Like, I just can't with these
Minnie Cooper:women. Well, I have to say I am on... What's her name? What's her name? Terry's side with Miss Etiquette didn't sending a text because Nicole is not locking up. I'm not even sending a text. Sorry, I can't make it.
Sam Cremean:Yeah. And then Nicole's like, oh, this is so awkward. And they're like, but I don't have a problem with you. Oh, but I don't have a problem with you. And it's like, then what the fuck do you call this then? What is, what is this? A problem. Then Terry reminds Nicole that she apologized earlier. Did something come up? Did it? Oh yes, it did. And then they, then they get into the excuses. So unfortunately, Nicole does get tripped over here because first she's like, I had a family thing, which is what she said about the reunion as well, I believe. So
Minnie Cooper:it's
Sam Cremean:kind of like, and Terry does, she's like, oh, again, coincidence, very coincidental. And then I do like, The others sort of try and help her about it. I think it's Kate even that's like, babe, you don't need to make excuses. Like if you felt anxious, you felt anxious, just say you didn't want to be there because you knew Terry was going to railroad you and thing. I would have had more cred for Nicole if she said, I find you really intimidating and that's why I didn't come. And I think that would shut Terry up because how do you argue with that?
Minnie Cooper:Well, and it's the thing of saying when I found out it was Jackie and I felt like it was a set up and you're friends, I think that's fair. I actually think that's fair. Joanne. Jillian. Josephine.
Sam Cremean:Josephine Gillies. Fuck me. Oh my God. Then we get this unhinged line from Victoria Montana. I fucking love this bitch. She's like, are you calling Nicole a liar? And then she's like, I've got skin in the game. Firm, bronzed, Greek, Italian, Arabic, Chinese, wrinkle-free skin. I was like, oh, honey, that line was so insane. It
Minnie Cooper:was pretty heaven, actually.
Sam Cremean:Heaven. She's so good.
Minnie Cooper:We can make a handbag out of this.
Intro:Yes.
Sam Cremean:Oh my God. That'll be the next collection. The Montano's own skin handbag collection. Wrinkle-free. Then, oh my God. Also, can we talk about Nicole's pearl look in the confessionals? This, like, dress made out of pearls. I kind of can't, no?
Minnie Cooper:I was living for that. Yeah, I'd wear that. Same.
Sam Cremean:It
Minnie Cooper:was quite fabulous. I really like Nicole's style, actually. She even has that sort of 1950s sort of house look. Yeah, she's
Sam Cremean:a classic, you know. Yeah, she is. She doesn't need a comeback.
Intro:No, you're so right.
Sam Cremean:Yeah. She says that Terry's grasping at this point, which is, yeah, I don't know. Terry is kind of winning. the fight, but by being, you know, she's brought a flamethrower to a knife fight.
Minnie Cooper:And I think the reason why Nicole's not winning is because she's not actually being totally 100% transparent.
Sam Cremean:Yeah.
Minnie Cooper:She's being avoidant. You never win when you're avoidant.
Sam Cremean:Exactly. Terry says that Nicole turns red when she's lying or nervous. And you know what? She looks like she's about to explode. I can't say I agree. She didn't look that red. I
Minnie Cooper:reckon she was getting high.
Sam Cremean:She was bothered, but I
Minnie Cooper:don't know. I don't know if I could have sat there like Nicole when she was being manipulated. And she just sort of sat there. It was so calm. I thought, I couldn't do
Sam Cremean:that. Because then she's like, why didn't you come to New Zealand then, Nicole? And she goes, well, family comes first. Just ask
Minnie Cooper:Martine.
Sam Cremean:Exactly. So it's like, yeah, then Kate steps in. We'll, like, just say if you... were uncomfortable and she finally admits that yes she was avoiding terry they're like were you avoiding terry she goes yes
Minnie Cooper:yes i think that's fine to say that i think it's fine but
Sam Cremean:unfortunately she said it too late after she'd already made up all these other excuses about family coming first so i don't know i would have preferred a honesty from the start i think then she wouldn't have been tripped over because terry's a shark in the water and a drop of blood She's in there. Yeah,
Minnie Cooper:you're so right. It's so
Sam Cremean:true. And then, yeah, she's not looking good. Victoria is so firmly on Team Nicole, though. So I kind of do like seeing the sides form.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, I didn't realise they were friends
Sam Cremean:actually. Well, neither. I think Nicole just kind of likes, sorry, Victoria kind of likes a bit of drama and she kind of likes being oppositional. So she's jumping on. She likes the underdog. Like with Martine, and I know they're actually friends, so it's different, but like Martine and her, like she kind of came in to the rescue. Yeah.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that Nicole threw Victoria under the bus, though. Well, you ignored Victoria. To Terry, I'm like, ooh. It's sort of dogfighting when you do that, bringing up old past stuff.
Sam Cremean:Totally. And the lunch ends with Terry telling Nicole, the ball is in your court, which was just... Can we have a slow clap for the tennis-themed line? Like,
Minnie Cooper:doll. And can I just say, I can promise you, Nicole won't be serving the ball back.
Sam Cremean:Oh, she's taking the ball and exiting
Minnie Cooper:stage five. Bye. All will be a
Sam Cremean:souvenir.
Minnie Cooper:I'd be interested to see if these two can get past. It'll be interesting to see.
Sam Cremean:The promo for next week looks insane. I'm so excited for next week. I
Minnie Cooper:can't remember. Did I watch the promo? I don't know if I
Sam Cremean:watched it. It's
Minnie Cooper:kicking off. Oh, no, they found out the stuff about Caroline.
Sam Cremean:They're deep diving on Carol.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah,
Sam Cremean:Carol!
Minnie Cooper:Whoops! Because I reckon, Kate, if you do something to her, she'll go deep diving and look for dirt. She's the type.
Sam Cremean:Yeah. It's getting Salt Lake City with the private investigators. Go the death dance. I want you to go
Intro:the death dance. Receipts.
Sam Cremean:Oh, then, wow. If you thought that was good, then we get Terry and Caroline in the Battle Royale matchup of the century. Well, where is this bar?
Minnie Cooper:It looked like it was at the top of Sydney Tower.
Sam Cremean:Yeah. Like Westfield Tower or whatever. Yeah, yeah. I'm pretty sure it was the top. Hilarious. Is that like a revolving restaurant?
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is. That's where I think they were. It looked like that's where they were. Fucking
Sam Cremean:incredible.
Minnie Cooper:And I just loved how they turned up looking like that, like her in that outfit, Cherry in that outfit. It must have been one o'clock in the afternoon.
Sam Cremean:I want to recreate it. Next time I'm in Sydney, I'm going to go to that cursed restaurant and I'm going to wear a leather one-glove look.
Minnie Cooper:And what I sort of loved about it, that you could tell Terry had no idea what happened. Because, you know, when you're in a fight like that, you don't actually remember what you say. No. Because you just go, you just see red. And they saw red. It was sort of heroin. Yeah. Terry! What did she call
Sam Cremean:her? Terry... Terry... Terry... Terry... Terry... I don't know. So good. This is the first time they've confronted everything after the healing session and the infamous... Birds of a Feather text. Terry looks absolutely stunning. So does Caroline. I like both these looks. Caroline, was it sort of yellow, strappy thing? I
Minnie Cooper:always, yeah, I think I can't really remember, to be honest. I can only remember Terry's because it was so extreme with the glove. I thought it was a lot for one o'clock in the afternoon.
Sam Cremean:I want a drag queen to do that look, the Terry look, and do like, I don't know, a theme song. Terry? it's so awkward at the start they just sort of like sip their champagne and just kind of eyeball each other and it's like come on get into it
Minnie Cooper:it's funny to watch two grown people not being able to talk through a problem calmly i find that so interesting
Sam Cremean:well they're on the back foot i think caroline struggles with i don't know like I don't know how to
Minnie Cooper:say this. I don't think she's emotionally self-aware. Do you know what I mean? She only cares about her feelings, but she can't sit in Terry's perspective. And I think Terry's the same.
Sam Cremean:I think that's probably what it is.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah. And she's not good at
Sam Cremean:articulating. No. Yeah, it comes out wrong.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, she's not very smart. She's not very
Sam Cremean:smart. Yeah, because she says some stuff that just... rubs people the wrong way and then she kind of just acts like, oh, whatever, you have to deal with that. Like the Jillian, Joopy, whatever
Minnie Cooper:her name was, thing. Even when she was fighting with Kate and then she saw Kate and went up and pretended like nothing was wrong and giving her a cuddle. Yeah. It's a little bit fake, to be
Sam Cremean:honest.
Minnie Cooper:That's the way I fight, to be honest. That's the way I find it. What did she say in the text? She goes, it was a set-up. And what was the other thing Caroline wrote in the text to Terry? It's all in text, so we don't know.
Sam Cremean:Birds of a feather. Something like that. She's questioning the integrity of Gillian and Terry's relationship and their whole healing session, which I'm like, babe, you're on a show. You're doing this as a bit. Like, just do the bit. How can you? You just want to slap her. Like, fuck me. And then she calls it a seance. She's like, how is your little seance? Like, you're so obviously trying to. piss people off with this. Also, the fans of this universe love Jackie Gillies. You are not winning any of us over. Oh, I know. Pretending you don't know it. Like, you've literally just lost half of the fucking fans of this show in this one episode. Yeah, I agree. Jokes aside, we're all just kind of like, Caroline sucks because she's not team Jackie Gillies. And we're all like,
Minnie Cooper:woo, Jackie!
Sam Cremean:Shine, shine, shine! So, you fucked it up with that one. Um... What's her gay's name again? She's got a gay. He needs to help. Chris. Chris needs to help her out. Come on, Chris. Where are you? He's not present this season either. He should have been there in the background feeding her lines.
Minnie Cooper:I cannot wait to find out what happens, what Kate has found out about Caroline. Because I think this is going to change something in the whole narrative of Caroline.
Sam Cremean:Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm rooting for Caroline. Like, I loved her last season. I thought she was camp as fuck. I was ready for her to, like, be the drag queen of the show. And she's, like, leaning into the fashion stuff this season, which is good. But not with this.
Minnie Cooper:Something's off and I can't put my finger on it, to be
Sam Cremean:honest. Exactly. Well, maybe she's, yeah, casting spells on the ladies. No!
Minnie Cooper:Well, she does look a bit like a witch. Was it her that said Witches of Eastwick? Oh, no, that was Beverly Hills, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so funny because I watched both episodes today, so I'm cross-pollinating.
Sam Cremean:Oh, I haven't watched the Beverly Hills reunion yet. I'm excited too.
Minnie Cooper:Do you love Bo?
Sam Cremean:Bob, love. Love. She's so good.
Minnie Cooper:She's like no one I've ever seen as a housewife. For that to
Sam Cremean:be her first season, like to jump in and just be...
Minnie Cooper:Oh, she's so smart and just on human behavior. There were lives told though. So good. I wasn't angry. It was strong. Yeah, I am strong. It's like, woo!
Intro:Yes!
Sam Cremean:Oh, I love that. Yeah, I am strong. Caroline... says that terry looks like she's gonna go birth a cow in that look and i'm like okay and now it just descends into this name calling and like child like schoolyard fight
Minnie Cooper:and not even funny
Sam Cremean:no
Minnie Cooper:not funny not
Sam Cremean:clever not shady just stupid and like you and jillian are making up stories and blah blah i'm just like what's your problem like Yes, the whole thing was contrived of the seance. Now I'm calling it a seance. I mean, there was a little reading. Maria, Terry's grandma, did appear briefly.
Minnie Cooper:Oh, yes, yes. Well, this is the whole thing. If we were to look at that argument as two grown adults trying to solve a problem, my perspective was I thought you and Jackie were really good friends and it looked like a setup. And Terry could have said, oh, we're not really good, but I can see why you thought that. Because both things, do you know what I mean? It's possible that it looked like to them it was a setup because everyone thought they were friends. Well, they looked like they were friends to me when I first saw them on the
Sam Cremean:show. Oh, totally. But then if you go low with Terry Viviano, she will meet you there, honey.
Minnie Cooper:Oh, she goes low and she'll go low.
Sam Cremean:Don't you think? She's like... How does it feel, Carol? Yeah,
Minnie Cooper:I know, which was so heaven. It was so heaven. How do you like that? Yeah, I don't know. Pterodactyl. Well, that was it. It was so heaven. That was actually, I think, the highlight of the whole show. Oh, I
Sam Cremean:did like that. And then pterosaurus rex or pterodactyl or whatever. And then it's like we need to call a timeout on this shit because the earrings are coming off. There's bloody fisticuffs happening. It's getting...
Minnie Cooper:I really wish she threw a drink in her face. Would they do that on a show?
Sam Cremean:It was almost there. Wouldn't that have been delicious?
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, totally. That's what we wanted. That's what we needed.
Sam Cremean:Yeah, next time, rock up with some better lines and throw a drink and then you're back in diva status. And then what does Caroline say? She's like, well, how does go fuck yourself sound?
Minnie Cooper:Pretty heavy.
Sam Cremean:And at this point I'm like, if I knew what you're upset about, I would be like, yes, honey. But I just, I'm very confused, Minnie. I don't know what's going on.
Minnie Cooper:I don't think they know what's going on either. I'm trying to put myself in their shoes. Do you think they get so worked up before they film that they're already so red before they've even
Sam Cremean:started talking?
Minnie Cooper:Do you think they're worked up before they've even talked?
Sam Cremean:Potentially.
Minnie Cooper:Because you can only ever have an adult conversation if you come in calmly.
Sam Cremean:Yeah, well, there was none of that
Minnie Cooper:to be seen. No. And do we really want that? No. No, we're happy.
Sam Cremean:What do you hope and predict for the rest of the season?
Minnie Cooper:What do I hope and predict for the rest of the season? I hope there's some really great dirt on Caroline.
Sam Cremean:Beyond her being a witch.
Minnie Cooper:Yes. Because something is off there. Like something's off there. And if Kate finds out and it's good dirt, I'll love that. And I hope that Nicole and Terry can be friends.
Sam Cremean:Me too, but look, I think you might be asking for quite a lot there, but
Minnie Cooper:we'll see. It's possible. I think it's possible for Nicole. Maybe not. But I know I'm the type of person, if I'm done with someone, I'm done.
Sam Cremean:Yeah, and I'm getting the sense that Nicole has checked out and she's kind of made the decision. Yeah, when you made that decision, we're not friends anymore. Yeah. Yeah. you commit to it. And then it's just about whether, like how it's going to end, I think is the question.
Minnie Cooper:How many, how many more episodes do you think we've got left?
Sam Cremean:I believe there's two more. This was eight. So I think there's a nine and a 10. And then I think there will be a reunion as well.
Minnie Cooper:And what's your hopes for the finale?
Sam Cremean:Like, it's just, I'm honestly, I've been loving this season. It's so good. There's been great drama. Yeah. interesting episodes, fun lines, quotable stuff. So I'm really enjoying it. I just hope it stays how it's been and maybe ramps up a bit at the end. But like you said, I also want to see them move on. I hope that at the end of this season, they actually put all of this stuff to bed because none of it is that... Bad. And I just want them to come up with some new things to fight about.
Minnie Cooper:I would really love to know how Salt Lake City has just got it so on the money. I don't know what it is about that, but every episode of that show... Flawless. It's like a cinematic experience.
Sam Cremean:It is. And the way that there was not a filler episode that last season. I think
Minnie Cooper:there was. I don't think there
Sam Cremean:is really. Every single one was 10 out of 10.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, but I think software has always been like that for me. There's something that always happens in it, like always. It was when Jenny got taken away by the cops, all that stuff. But you can't write that stuff. Jennifer
Sam Cremean:Shah. She's doing well in prison. She's on her best behavior. She'll be out soon, doll.
Minnie Cooper:Do you reckon she'll be out? Do you reckon she'll have her back on?
Sam Cremean:Absolutely, they will. They've done it before. They'll do it again. Oh, yeah, Teresa did. Yeah, they love it. It's such a great storyline. Yes. She'll be back.
Minnie Cooper:Yes. I wish they'd show the girls with Randy.
Sam Cremean:The deleted tapes of Morocco. Oh, yeah. Girl, I want that more than anything.
Minnie Cooper:It's not going to happen, though, is it? No. No. All right. Thanks for having me today.
Sam Cremean:Thank you, Mini. I've had so much fun with you as always. What have you got coming up? Any shows or anything you want to plug on your
Minnie Cooper:way out? No, nothing really. Nothing major that I can think of. Nothing that I want to share.
Sam Cremean:Are you doing anything over Easter?
Minnie Cooper:I'm actually catching up because I did a musical many years ago, Hot She Shuffled. I went to the UK. I'm catching up with someone I haven't seen for 30 years. So that's quite nice. Is that fabulous? Oh,
Sam Cremean:wow. That's fabulous.
Minnie Cooper:Yeah, I think so too.
Sam Cremean:Well, enjoy that. And I will see you soon.
Minnie Cooper:Up your bum, no babies.
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