The Real Housewives of Sydney - S03E10 (w/ Teddy Nott)

It’s the finale baby. Teddy and Sam go in hard on the whole season and its fiery(?) conclusion. Feuds continue, some which seem to make no sense at all, and at a glitterati party the divas get it all out on the table.. Well, some of it. That and some takes on Jojo Siwa's continued chaos.  

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Intro

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This podcast was produced on the land of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation.

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Welcome to Australia. Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy.

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Someone who is such a connoisseur of reality television. The content is hideous. Oh sorry about this.

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Oh my god. Hello, darling. How are you?

SPEAKER_00 0:20

I'm good. How are you?

SPEAKER_03 0:22

Great, thank you. Welcome back to the cringies real. It's been a little while.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

I know, it's been like a over a year. No. Yeah, like a year and a half.

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Because season two was what late 2023. Wasn't that long ago. Yeah, which is crazy.

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Where has time gone?

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So much has happened since then. We're better people for it, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_00 0:44

So much and so little at the same time.

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Oh my god. Um, before

Jojo Siwa's Chaos Continues

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we get into Sydney this week, we need to touch base on Jojo Siwa.

SPEAKER_00 0:57

Yes, Jojo, the topic of the week.

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Fucking terrorist.

SPEAKER_00 1:01

I know. Setting us back so far.

SPEAKER_03 1:06

Setting back the movement. I really look, I got a feel for Kath. I feel like have you deep dived on Kath's like hour-long video explanation of what happened to the video.

SPEAKER_00 1:17

No, I literally I thought it was two minutes because I saw that little two-minute snippet. And then I was like, where is everyone getting all of this information from? Like it's she just said they broke up and that was it. And I was like, oh, okay. And but I did see the clip of Jojo and um on that morning show and her talking about it as well.

SPEAKER_03 1:35

Um yes, with Chris with her new bestie, Chris, who the like emphasis on bestie, they're just friends. Of course they are, but also it's like who wants to be friends with that guy? Like he's got so clearly using Jojo for her following. It's so fucking obvious to me.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

But also, like, who else would they have been friends with in the house? I get but they weren't only in there for three weeks. Like it made it sound like it was like how long is Big Brother usually like three months?

SPEAKER_03 2:01

It's normally like three months, but the celeb one is like two weeks, or it's like seven, seventeen days or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 2:07

Well, celebrities can't live without their phones for that.

SPEAKER_03 2:09

I know, but also Georgia was 21, which like I'm loving like reading all the commentary because it oscillates between people being like she's the devil, a baby, or she's an adult. She's a baby, and then she's adult. It's like she did grow up like on TV, 100%, and I get that, and like having Abby Lee Miller be your as your mentor, sorry, yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_00 2:32

But like Jojo has always been so positive about that experience with Abby, she has, which makes me think like, who hurt you?

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Like, what happened?

SPEAKER_00 2:40

Yeah, like if it wasn't her, well, who else was it? Who was it? I know.

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I just love like because Kath is so aggressively like Brunswick, hipster, like they damn, which I like Melbourne to a T. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:54

Literally, like if Melbourne needed a new flag, it'd be Kathleen. It would be Kath, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:58

Yeah. So although Melbourne is like rooting for Kath, but then at the same time, I'm just like, oh joke's kind of on you, babes, because like, yeah, you just shouldn't have gotten involved.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

We could all kind of see it happening. Like, it's not like this is unfamiliar for Jojo. Like, if you look at all her past exes and everything, it's it's repeat behavior, really.

SPEAKER_03 3:19

Well, she only discovered her like queer personality, like not that long ago.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

But hasn't she had like four girlfriends in that short period? Yeah, of course.

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Which and I love this because it's like everyone online is like, don't stereotype, and it's like well, it's not a you hauling the way.

SPEAKER_00 3:36

I feel like she just like looked up lesbian in the dictionary and it was just like going like step by step down, literally.

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She's like, I've only had three deep relationships.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

Did she ever do a guy?

SPEAKER_03 3:50

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 3:51

I don't recall ever like I don't know.

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There's still time.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

No, yeah. Well, now she's it's doubling into that field, she's doing everything backwards.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

It's like a reverse Kyle Richards because she's like teasing us with is she straight? But it's like, I don't think she is, but it could be like it could be her intention.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

She maybe saw it working for Kyle and she's like, I'm gonna twist this. Her mom is a mastermind.

SPEAKER_03 4:14

You never, nah, I don't think she's that calculated. I honestly think, like, remember when you went on your first overseas trip, or like when you did your first like thing away from your family, and you were like and you're like, This is my life now.

SPEAKER_00 4:28

It's very well it does seem like this was her very first time, like actually separate from that whole life. Like, I think a mum literally follows her everywhere for what it seems like.

SPEAKER_03 4:39

Like, having no phone, especially at that age, like being 21 in today's society without a phone for three weeks, like that is actually that will change your life.

SPEAKER_00 4:50

It would be I really want to do Big Brother, like up here. I would love to do it.

SPEAKER_03 4:55

Well, it's coming back, so I don't know. Maybe I'm gonna apply. I'm definitely in there.

SPEAKER_00 5:00

Yeah, I'm definitely gonna be. But like I also didn't watch the last season, so like no, because it was so bad.

SPEAKER_03 5:09

You mean the Australian one?

SPEAKER_00 5:11

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The international ones are so shit that for this was good back in the day.

SPEAKER_03 5:18

Gretel Clean, honey. That was some good shit.

SPEAKER_00 5:21

Well, I know she's on the cast of this amazing race. So like she's back in the sorry, yeah. She's in the next the next edition coming out. Like she's in the cast photo. I saw her name and I had to be like, which one is she? Uh that looks yeah, it's been a few years since I saw her, but that looks like she's back on the circuit. Who's she with?

SPEAKER_03 5:42

Like a child of hers?

SPEAKER_00 5:46

It's usually and friend. Do you know what I mean? Like it's friend. Yeah, like uh but Cyrelle did it, but she did it with Ian. So I guess partner or and friend. So I'm I think it's an and friend.

SPEAKER_03 5:58

Yeah, look, that one's a pass from me. Even Gretzky's could not get me to watch Amazing SARS.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

Oh, I mean, uh well, I watched last season. Well, I watched the two episodes Cyril was in, and then I was like, no, no. Oh no, she was in three, I think.

SPEAKER_03 6:14

Yeah, but there was you were you watching Maths this year?

SPEAKER_00 6:18

Yes, bits and pieces. I got in the middle, I got a bit uh it did get a bit uh in the middle, and then it really just like went. Just seemed like drama on drama on drama, and I was like, like, nah.

SPEAKER_03 6:30

You really have to commit, it's a lot, and I think, yeah, I still don't know if I'll come back for more next year or not, but we'll see.

SPEAKER_00 6:38

See, everyone says that, and then it happens. You just have to roll with the punch, it's really true.

SPEAKER_03 6:43

I did take a mental health year off last year, which was the right choice.

SPEAKER_00 6:49

Yeah, I can imagine after everything that's happened in like COVID and then we've just like got back into life. And now I feel like everyone's like now restarting, like this year. It's like everyone's reverse like forgotten about COVID a little bit, and we're moving on.

SPEAKER_03 7:03

And I hear there could be like an all-stars edition of MAFs in the works, which I think is a great idea.

SPEAKER_00 7:08

Yeah, well, we have the champions that oh, but who would they bring like all stars couples or all the singles?

SPEAKER_03 7:15

The singles are any of them still together, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

Like two of them.

SPEAKER_03 7:20

Yeah, two out of two out of a sample size of like 500.

SPEAKER_00 7:24

Yeah, like that's the odds are one in a hundred, really, but it happens apparently.

SPEAKER_03 7:31

Incredible. Um, so Real House House of Sydney, season three. We've just had the final episode air this week. What a fucking season. What

The Real Housewives of Sydney S03E10 Recap

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are your thoughts overall?

SPEAKER_00 7:45

The of the whole entire season. Yeah, it was good, like it yeah, it was good. The whole thing was a last season part two, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_03 7:56

Like they could have just tried like it was wrapping up some some stuff, some loose ends from last season, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00 8:03

But they halted it themselves, in my opinion. Like they could have, in my opinion, like it literally should have been started with a one-on-one, Nicole and Terry, and like that would have just changed the model.

SPEAKER_03 8:14

It's almost like the producers don't have any power to like do things like that. Like the way that they're just like never in the same room at the same time.

SPEAKER_00 8:23

I think they gave them a lot more this season for sure.

SPEAKER_03 8:27

Like it's just jetting off to Aspen whenever they want. I'm like, come on, can we get some contract negotiations?

SPEAKER_00 8:33

But like why even some of like why was Nicole even there? Like what friend of at best?

SPEAKER_03 8:42

Like, I think well, didn't she? My understanding is that she was not thinking that Terry was going to join us this season.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

Well, that she wasn't, she didn't sign on.

SPEAKER_03 8:54

Yeah, exactly. So then I think that's the only reason she was there. And then when Terry came on, she was like, fuck this, I'm out.

SPEAKER_00 8:59

But then she wasn't there, so but like then get tear up that contract. Like the first episode really didn't even need to happen. It's like, girl, what are you doing? Like Nucy was a train wreck. Why did it happen? Like they were clutching, like nothing was happening. Look, those vitamin patches are not gonna sell themselves, so I got them last year, but now Nicole doesn't like me, so it's fine.

SPEAKER_03 9:25

Yeah, I think she's tapped out, which look fair enough. If it's not for you, it's not for her.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

Like, I just don't think this is her game anymore.

SPEAKER_03 9:33

Like they should have had that um drunk driving lady on instead.

SPEAKER_00 9:37

Anyone would have been better, really. Just pull someone off the street, like they would have shown up with these, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:43

Literally, like a wig on me and some lippy.

SPEAKER_00 9:46

I know plenty of people that would have been there every minute of everything, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:50

Yeah, but but what can you do?

SPEAKER_00 9:54

Alas, I don't think she'll be back.

SPEAKER_03 9:58

No, I don't think so. What about Martine, our new edition? Did you think she slayed the season?

SPEAKER_00 10:06

I think she had a slow start in the season. Like, I didn't in the I just didn't enjoy her on TV initially. But I now have met her in real life, and knowing her in real life has changed everything. Like she's like a bit of a fun time. But you get it, like you think back to last season with the girls, a lot of them had their training wheels. It was just Martine's turn to have her training wheels. So true. But like she did, she still came in and like had a few zingers and everything in there, which I was like, Oh, oh, okay. Pleasantly surprising. Like, I can see why you were cast.

SPEAKER_03 10:42

Yes, she's taught us all a new word, which is maturation.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

Oh god, and everyone trying to say it constantly. Maturation, like it felt like it was placed, like syllables, please.

SPEAKER_03 10:55

And I'd have to tend to agree with Jordan Peterson. Um god. No, I think Martine has been really great, mainly because she's kooky, she's got some, yeah, she's not afraid to like, you know, have a tantrum, which I do enjoy.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

So well, like coming in, I think everyone just thought she was Victoria 2.0. Like that's kind of what we kind of were given. And then suddenly we were like, ah, okay, this is something a bit fresher, a bit new, like something different, some real personality in there.

SPEAKER_03 11:32

Exactly. Should we get into this finale episode?

SPEAKER_00 11:36

Yes, the glitterate.

SPEAKER_03 11:38

The glitterati. I believe you may have even featured in this episode, darling.

SPEAKER_00 11:41

It's like my big head does pop up quite a few times in the background.

SPEAKER_03 11:45

And I love that your head was prime position in shot.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

Like, I kept being like, Oh my god, you're you I got one, I got me and my my friend Justin got a was a still shot of us just standing there chatting.

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It was like a microsecond, and like I'm like, there was more, I swear.

SPEAKER_00 12:06

It was a good time, it was fun.

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The episode is called All That Glitters Is Not Gold. 100%. And we start with Kaitla Martine in matching millennial pink outfits, uh walking Ernie the dog in the Pram. Yes. Love these matching looks.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

I know, I love that. But both I know Martine loves pink. I know she wants one of my laboo-boos, my pink laboo-boo. Maybe I'll give it to her, we'll see. I don't know. But like, she looks good in pink. I love that scene, it's cute. I love I love when they have like those moments. It's just snorcy.

SPEAKER_03 12:41

It's becoming a bit of a go-to for the editors, they'll just like whack together a few little bits. And at first it annoyed me, and now I'm like, oh no, it's fine.

SPEAKER_00 12:52

At least that they're using all the crumbs, but it well, yeah, they had the that it works, a lot of crumbs put together. And especially this episode, I noticed. I felt like they threw in like everything they had left. The kitchen sink, yeah. I liked it, it kind of made it a full ep like because it could have been just the party, really. Well, that's kind of how every other episode would have been, just like that one little event that they did, but they threw in these other little elements, and I think the whole season should have had more of that.

SPEAKER_03 13:22

I think is this the first and only event where every cast member is present in the whole season?

SPEAKER_00 13:29

Yeah, the whole entire season is all.

SPEAKER_03 13:32

They got one event with them. That's wild to me.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

But and that well, we saw how it went, so yeah, we're it was a bit of a train wreck, so I'm surprised. I blame you. It was all me. You see, are you actually seeing me when the glass breaks? I'm laughing, but they cut like my face off halfway through it. But it was yeah, it was funny.

SPEAKER_03 13:53

Oh my god. Um, then we cut to Terry, and I've been complaining all season that we haven't seen Anthony Minicello present on our screens. And my prayers have been here he is looking very cute, except we also have a child present, which I don't need.

SPEAKER_00 14:09

I love as. Don't rip on her enough.

SPEAKER_03 14:15

And they're at like a Japanese restaurant for dinner. It's very cute, living their glamorous lives, living their glamorous lives. Then Caroline and Kate are at a very glittery store. Um who? Oh, sorry, Caroline and Chrissy. Oh my god, getting my case confused. That would that would have been a very different scene.

SPEAKER_00 14:35

Carol would have needed to freeze over before that happened.

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Caroline and Chrissy are shopping for some glitterati looks at this uh insane store. And Carol goes, I'm gonna need um something aerodynamic because I might need to leave very quickly. And she does.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

She planned it and she knew it from the day before.

SPEAKER_03 15:05

They're so clunky who walk out. She's like, Do you know what? I'm actually going to leave. And everyone's like, Yeah, we know, bitch.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

Yeah, like okay. Uh do you we're done? Let's start clapping and gagged. Yeah, again. Oh no.

SPEAKER_03 15:20

But did she even leave? I feel like she said she was gonna leave, but then she didn't, or something. She didn't. In real life, she didn't. Um at that edit mode, she was kind of still there, and I was like, What's going on? Is she here? Is she not?

SPEAKER_00 15:30

Anyway, no, no, no. Being there, she did walk out. Okay, but but she came back, so it was what was said, so yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:38

Do they not when they do when she comes back? Do they all giggle and be like that was fun? Or are they all like mad at each other still? Like, what's the vibe?

SPEAKER_00 15:46

I don't know, I don't think they continued after that.

SPEAKER_03 15:48

She did come back in, but yeah, it just because that's like we've been saying all season, it's like Jackie Gillies told the girls when they shot Melbourne, you do the scenes and then you like have a giggle afterwards. You know what I mean? I feel like these women need to do that.

SPEAKER_00 16:07

Well, they never got to the giggle. I think they just shot the scenes and were like, nah, I'm back to where like it. That's how it was. There was just not enough.

SPEAKER_04 16:15

We need to.

SPEAKER_00 16:16

I honestly feel like this season they needed to go away on like a bonding camp first, and I just not that you don't need to be. Well, I wouldn't want to use those words because it'll get minced in the time. But you know what I mean. Like, I just I well, I would have started the season after the that the healing and then continued from there. But you live, you learn. What are they gonna do? True, true.

SPEAKER_03 16:44

Terry says she's back to square one with the group. New Zealand was a great vibe because we didn't have Nicole and Caroline, and we hear this consistently from Terry this episode. She's not even afraid to say it to those people later on. She's like, you guys fucked the vibes of the group. And I hope the producers are listening because we do need there to be some vibes.

SPEAKER_00 17:08

I think they just went for the drama and it was just too much. But you do need like the fun, you need the like the the thing with housewives is that they need to they need to like water off a duck's back. You can hate someone, but you're there to play. Like at the end of the day, like it's a it's you you're aware the cameras are there. It's still your it's still their lives and everything, but like there's a camera in front of you.

SPEAKER_03 17:33

Especially when the root of some of this drama to me still makes no sense.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

I don't even understand Strap. It's it's Japan. Someone was late. Like that's I think that's what all it needed was them to come together and then would have been fine. Giggle, yeah. Like have a go at each other and then be like, stop it.

SPEAKER_03 17:54

They need a big girl's night out, like get a bag, go literally, like just have a good time. We'll sort you out, hit us up. You just need some gays to well, I guess that's probably what they tried to do with the Glitterati, and it still failed.

SPEAKER_00 18:08

That room was almost as gay as Mardi Gras. Totally. Like, I think every gay in Sydney was there that evening.

SPEAKER_03 18:17

Back to the sparkly gown shop. Yes, and Chrissy tells Caroline um that she was her biggest defender, and she's told everyone that she's got the straightest moral compass that she's ever seen. I was like, Chrissy, stop sucking up this art.

SPEAKER_00 18:35

Where is it coming from though? Like, where is that opinion coming from? In what like examples there's no story.

SPEAKER_03 18:41

She wasn't like this one time I saw Caroline rescue a kitten from a tree.

SPEAKER_00 18:46

It's like literally there was nothing like what has she done? Please, uh one example, just one, like come on, Chrissy, give us something, not just a blanket statement.

SPEAKER_03 18:57

Yeah. Nah, it's it's it's cursed. Um then she dishes on the googling situation. Uh, which Caroline says she's unsurprised by and supposedly unbothered by, but I feel like I don't know, like, do you think she was unbothered, or do you think she was secretly like a bit pissed off about that? I I couldn't.

SPEAKER_00 19:23

I think she was bothered. I think like anyone would be. Do you know what I mean? Like the fact that she was playing it so quick. Um be be a little bit mad. Do you know what I mean? Like, obviously, she was pissed off. I'd be pissed off.

SPEAKER_03 19:35

But I want to know more. Like, I'd be like, what did they look like of straight away? I'd be like, what do they want to know?

SPEAKER_00 19:44

They should have cut to like Kate with like her Harriet the Spy thing and like her like missed opportunity.

SPEAKER_03 19:49

They could have had a whole scene of like, yeah, Kate Googling at night with like the laptop.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

Like it just would have been a funny, great scene.

SPEAKER_03 19:59

And they need text on screen, they need to get up like text messages, they need, yeah. Come on, we need receipts. We need the receipts on screen.

SPEAKER_00 20:08

Uh-huh. Like, pull up that who did it in in Beverly Hills. Oh, uh, Kyle, like bringing up the text message. Oh, Dari. Darite brought up Kyle's text message. We need some of that action.

SPEAKER_03 20:19

Caroline says, Her vendetta, it seems, has no end.

SPEAKER_00 20:24

I don't know. But I'm like, What vendetta though? All she wants is a conversation.

SPEAKER_03 20:28

She wants a conversation. It's very clear later on that she feels misunderstood because she had genuine feelings about something quite tragic that Caroline was trying to dismiss. So to me, that's pretty straightforward.

SPEAKER_00 20:40

It was just, I don't get why it's so perpetuated. Like, if you just they they have perspective and they can watch it back, and they're still not getting it.

SPEAKER_03 20:50

Like I think unfortunately, Caroline just kind of blindly defends herself, and she's not thinking about how it's gonna look, unfortunately. And because I loved her last season. I thought she was really camp, but she was really light, like what the show needed a bit of like light, silly energy. This season, I'm like, girl, I cannot defend you anymore because you're just being messy, and it's not and mean it's it's messy and mean, like her low blows, like Kate has Kate has also done some low blow kind of confessionals, but Kate's have been quite funny. I think Caroline's just dumb.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

Well, yeah, Kate's like an educated jab, in a sense, and then whereas Caroline just like stabs in the dark wherever she can and like hopes to learn something, and that's absolutely and that's not good. Like, even as a viewer watching it, you're just like, Oh it's clunky.

SPEAKER_03 21:46

You're watching it as a view, and you're like, girl, we were rooting for you, and these are not these are not it.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

This is not it, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:53

Um over at Kate and Martine's catch up, uh, Kate tells us. That there's two Chrissies, the one we saw in New Zealand and main girl Chrissy when Caroline's around. What do you think about this? Do you think Caroline is corrupting our girl Chewbacca?

SPEAKER_00 22:14

No. I think Chrissy comes to play. She knows what she's doing. Like you need to be friends with all the housewives. Do you know what I mean? Like, I think she just I don't uh I don't know. I just think she is playing. Like she's she's being a housewife. It's what she does best.

SPEAKER_03 22:33

Yeah, I think she's fun, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 22:35

Yeah, like it's she doesn't take it too seriously. Everything's like this, that, whatever. Like, good for her. They need each other. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 22:44

Like of everyone on this cast, I think Chrissy is the best at making fun of herself and like not taking herself too seriously and moving on, which I think the rest of them need to like take a leaf out of that book. Because yeah, because her and Nicole are the only OGs.

SPEAKER_00 23:01

But with that's what surprises me the most about Nicole. She is seasoned, she knows how to play, but she just isn't coming into play.

SPEAKER_03 23:09

You're right, but I think even from season one, she was always she was cast as being a bit of an uptight bitch, like that was her persona that they wanted from her. Her whole thing was like, I take my kids first class, like you know, and I think unfortunately, that didn't have longevity, longevity, yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_00 23:29

Like, we people don't like that anymore.

SPEAKER_03 23:31

We've got we got that out of her, and it's like she's not willing to yeah, kind of show more, she's just sticking to her narrative, and that's it, exactly. And and she didn't want to have to do the fake arguing or whatever, which the rest of them are like totally fine to do, but she's like, Oh no, we're really gonna do this. I'm like, Yeah, you are like you're getting paid to make this show, like make the show. Like, yes, you might be a bit uncomfortable and it might feel silly, but like that's kind of what it is. But unfortunately, yeah, I think she thought she could get away with it not being that.

SPEAKER_00 24:04

100%. I think she, yeah, she didn't think Terry was gonna come back and she could do this, and that's just how it played out, and it just wasn't what anyone wanted, really. Yeah, well, I can't even remember her being on this season, really.

SPEAKER_03 24:20

But what why is Chrissy all of a sudden batting for Caroline? Is it because she just has a bit of a like big sister energy going on? I don't like that.

SPEAKER_00 24:30

I think Chrissy's kind of taken her as like her little mother hen, like she's taken her under her wing, and that's just how it is. They're very but they're both like that. When they have their way, that's how they kind of stick, and I think that's why that works. They're very headstrong women.

SPEAKER_03 24:47

Yes. Martine thinks Chrissy is all too happy misrepresenting what she said. Uh because Chrissy is bothered by Martine for some reason. What do you think about it?

SPEAKER_00 25:01

I think she's not back to her not to bring up the hazing of it all, but like I I forgot about that. It's that's kind of what she's doing. She's the new girl. Like Chrissy is the mother hen, like just seeing what how far she can push her and everything. That's just how it is, I think. Like that's how they are, that dynamic.

SPEAKER_03 25:24

I think also they just don't click, like, yeah, and it is imagine meeting someone for the first time, and there's like a group dynamic going on, and there's cameras there. Like, I don't know, it's it's kind of weird to begin with, but I think in the real world, maybe those two just don't click.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

Yeah, I couldn't imagine them hanging out in real life, just like socially high bye, but not like going any deeper than that.

SPEAKER_03 25:48

But it's weird to me because we just said before, like Chrissy Lowell's, like, she's kind of down to clown.

SPEAKER_00 25:55

So then But Martin's serious, and I think that's the disconnect. Like I'm not saying she's not silly and all that, but like her self is more of a serious person, like she takes everything she does a lot more seriously than Chrissy, whereas Chrissy doesn't care.

SPEAKER_03 26:15

Yeah, and that's why I love Chrissy as a viewer, because I'm so here for like that character.

SPEAKER_00 26:22

But I think Martine being so like that is her training wheels, like she that she doesn't know what she's doing yet.

SPEAKER_03 26:28

Like, that's why we haven't seen like the burrito, and that's why I hope she comes back. Same. I really do think because I think I think next season we'll just see Martine like sore.

SPEAKER_00 26:39

100%. She she will skyrocket with it, given another season. Like, yeah, but we don't know. Well fingers crossed.

SPEAKER_03 26:46

We'll see. Uh, speaking of Martine, um, she's on a boat with John. John really got some airtime this season.

SPEAKER_00 26:52

He did. I actually enjoy seeing the partners. Like, did we ever see do we we don't see everyone's partners this season?

SPEAKER_03 27:00

No, we barely see them at all. Have we ever seen Nicole's partner? No, I don't think so. Not recently.

SPEAKER_00 27:07

And Chrissy, oh yeah, we briefly see Chrissy's partner.

SPEAKER_03 27:11

Briefly, what about Sally?

SPEAKER_00 27:13

Sally, I don't think this season. I remember last season he had some airtime.

SPEAKER_03 27:18

No.

SPEAKER_00 27:18

But no, I I I like the family element. Like it brings I think they kind of needed a little bit more heart in this season.

SPEAKER_03 27:24

Also, what happened to Dr. Kate's hot New Zealand date? I wanted to see that, or at least hear about it.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

I don't know if she'd want to show it after last season's date, that terrible man. I think she was like, no, we're not doing that again.

SPEAKER_03 27:40

Like true, but like, maybe not on camera, but like, I don't know. I want the date. I want the tea. I'm gonna have to ask Dr. Kate what happened. Send her a DM, I'm sure she'll she'll spill. She will. Oh, yeah. Um, Martine tells us that she's shocked that there are homes for sale that are under $30 million. And to that I say, get fucked.

SPEAKER_00 28:05

I would love to be able to even afford one of those, please. Just Martine, can you buy me one? Like I'll I'll take it. Like anything.

SPEAKER_03 28:15

Uh you know, other news, Kate does not have chlamydia. So raise the roof.

SPEAKER_00 28:23

I think that should have had a party just for that.

SPEAKER_03 28:26

The way my stomach dropped when they were about to read that result out. Because I'm like, girl, I don't always get that same news.

SPEAKER_00 28:35

Uh-huh. I I you even saw Terry. Like, as soon as she said Clemente, everyone kind of was like, uh If that was me, I'd be like, turn the cameras off. Yeah, cut right. Get away from me, get out of my house right now. Oh no.

SPEAKER_03 28:50

So good. Because I did, I don't know if you know this, but I I'm a known donor, so I have a I have a son that I don't parent. Um, and when I was donating, um, I yeah, I had to go on like full lockdown with sexy stuff for this very reason. And it's like a real thing when you do anything to do with like reproductive health, you like can't have STIs because they like get in all your cells and blah blah blah. But um it was so funny like not being able to have sex for like two or three months or something, as I was like having a kid.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

Oh, we got for the whole time now you're donating. I was like, I was like, why is it taking yourself? So I was like, hurry up.

SPEAKER_03 29:30

I was like, hurry up and get pregnant because this is killing me. But it took me right back there, that scene. So I thought I actually enjoyed that was nostalgia for you, really. It was, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:40

It took you back to a well, not a better time, but a time.

SPEAKER_03 29:46

The things that we do.

SPEAKER_00 29:48

Well, now you've got a hold no. I wouldn't is it a son? Do you do have a son? So it is still your son.

SPEAKER_03 29:54

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

Does he call you dad?

SPEAKER_03 29:57

Yeah, he does.

SPEAKER_00 29:58

That's very sweet.

SPEAKER_03 29:59

Yeah. Um, so she begins the egg freezing journey um with a little Azempic joke thrown in, which I thought was cute. And we've still got our favourite clucky mum, uh, Terry, cheering her on. She's genuinely invested in this.

SPEAKER_00 30:16

100%. I think she like just wants a play date, or like she wants she she wants to be a mum with Kate again, I think. She just wants to like relive that fantasy with her bestie.

SPEAKER_03 30:26

Yeah, it's cute.

SPEAKER_00 30:27

Yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_03 30:29

But it it yeah, it's giving Mog Mom, like come on, where are the kids?

SPEAKER_00 30:34

Well, I can just imagine like if Kate ends up having a baby, it probably will be a Terry's 50% of the time, let's face it. Great, pretty hardcore. Work work uh win-win for everyone.

SPEAKER_03 30:47

Exactly. Uh Chrissy orders a double skinny bitch, which I love. And then Nicole goes, Oh, yes, the same thing, but I'll just have a single. And do you know what, Nicole? This is why Chrissy is a gay icon and you're not at the reunion.

SPEAKER_00 31:06

100%. Oh, we know about she's not at the reunion. Oh, yeah, I guess they show it, don't they? Like, come on, yeah. Give us something. Like, I just want she just gives nothing at all. Like, I just I don't know why she even wanted to be there. That's what that's what pisses me off. Like, if you want to be there, be there. If not, then just the cast was already big enough. I think like we could have simply dropped.

SPEAKER_03 31:33

True.

SPEAKER_00 31:34

And I don't think anyone would have noticed.

SPEAKER_03 31:36

I think that's not just as annoying. Maybe the they were hoping for some more because they knew she was ruffling feathers by being there. So maybe they were just hoping that things would happen. But it sounds like things were happening off camera, which still shits me.

SPEAKER_00 31:52

The show behind the show is much better than the show.

SPEAKER_03 31:55

Yes, that's it.

SPEAKER_00 31:56

I don't know why so much was cut out and whatnot, but oh well that's TV.

SPEAKER_03 32:04

Maybe um Terry loves a bit of confrontation and nipping things in the bud. So she's like, she just wants to get it out. She's like, Look, I told Nicole the ball is in her court and uh still nothing. And I'm like, you really think she's gonna come crawling back to you? Like there was no way, like Terry.

SPEAKER_00 32:25

There was no way she was gonna be calling it. But like I get what she's saying. Like, that's all Terry wanted was a conversation the whole time. And can I agree?

SPEAKER_03 32:32

Terry was so terrifying. Like, I'm scared of Terry just watching it. Like, I think she's fucking fierce and fabulous and cunty, but I'm also like, I wouldn't be like, hey Terry, do you want to just like have a chat? Yeah, but it's Nicole.

SPEAKER_00 32:49

Nicole is a big girl, like she knows. Like it's not like is she?

SPEAKER_03 32:55

Well big girls drink double skinny bitches, I'll have you know.

SPEAKER_00 32:59

True, but she doesn't well, she doesn't, I guess, so maybe. I don't know. Like, I just just wanted something, anything.

unknown 33:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:07

I don't want to hear about her daughters anymore.

SPEAKER_03 33:10

No, neither does Terry. We're sick of hearing about Nicole's daughters. I was like, ooh, that that is production. Twisting the knife. Uh um, speaking of, Chrissy asks Nicole about how Noale's frat parties are going.

SPEAKER_00 33:31

She's been to plenty, allegedly. I'm sure she does. Like, I would love I'm I'm hoping her daughters are having the best time, really. Like, live life.

SPEAKER_03 33:40

Oh, totally. I want to see her end up on like a girls gone wild situation.

SPEAKER_00 33:45

Maybe some a summer house, whatever one of them.

SPEAKER_03 33:48

Yes, Noel just drops in to summer house.

SPEAKER_00 33:52

Start like uh she could be a guest in like one episode in the season, and then the next season she can be a cast member.

SPEAKER_03 33:58

She might get her toe sucked, who knows?

SPEAKER_00 34:00

She can be on the next are they talking about Vanderpump rules for honey, they are beating that horse into the ground, yes.

SPEAKER_03 34:10

Nicole says regarding Terry, leave me alone.

SPEAKER_02 34:17

Oh, please, just leave me alone.

SPEAKER_00 34:21

What did you think about it? Well, like, but that's what I mean. They're all there to play, they need to chat. So what? Are they just gonna go to these events and it not exist? She was just whinging about that in like three episodes ago that Terry ignored her, and now she's asking Terry to ignore it.

SPEAKER_03 34:37

But I would also suggest that um she has left you alone by saying the bulls in your court. Like to me, the bulls in your court means either you can come to me and we can talk about this, or if you want, we're done. Like it's kind of up to Nicole. So saying leave me alone is a bit like also you're filming a show together, so sauce.

SPEAKER_00 34:57

Literally, like it the whole thing is interaction. Like, you can't just be like, No, no, you don't exist to me. Like, I don't know, it's just mess around, man.

SPEAKER_03 35:08

And then after a brief uh Sally and Caroline doing aerial yoga scene, which I was like, sure, we finally get to the glitterati party. So talk us through your outfit. What were you wearing?

SPEAKER_00 35:24

I was throwing a little glitter bow tie that was my little glitter accessory. Well, I knew that every day in Sydney was gonna go, and I knew that they would take it to like 3,000. And so I was like, I'm gonna go simple and it worked. I loved it.

SPEAKER_03 35:39

Was it literally just the girls and then just every guy?

SPEAKER_00 35:44

Well uh there were some other people there, but like in attendance. Yeah, there was like we're very confused about what was going on, but I but I did notice that not many of them were even caught on camera though. Like there was they were just like straights over here, please. Like we're we're we want the gays, please. Right.

SPEAKER_03 36:02

Straights, can we just get you in the other room um shooting the scene where the girls are gonna um just throw wine? Hopefully. Um you don't want to be here for this, so it's reserved for the gays.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

The gays and the girls, and yeah, just everyone else, please. No, it was it was a good night, but no, it was definitely gorgeous.

SPEAKER_03 36:25

Well, you all looked great. Um and was Justin wearing like a blue sparkly suit.

SPEAKER_00 36:32

Yes, he had like a full uh he stood out. Like he stood everyone else was in like the blacks and the and then just blue. It was cute.

SPEAKER_03 36:41

The girls though, some of these looks I was a bit like, come on.

SPEAKER_01 36:45

The drag queens look better.

SPEAKER_00 36:48

Yeah, well, so I was was everyone. I thought everyone looked most likely. I think Kate looked fucking amazing.

SPEAKER_03 36:56

Kate looks stunning, and because normally I think Terry is normally my best dressed um always very I think it's just the theme through them because like literati, it's like the the temptation to wear some like stretch lame kind of like fabric was too tempting, and unfortunately, she yeah, she did that.

SPEAKER_00 37:22

She just well, I guess um, I remember getting the briefing and I was like, what the f do you wear to this? Like I have no idea. Like, so I guess everyone was gonna be able to do that. Rhinestones.

SPEAKER_03 37:32

I would have been like rhinestones or nothing, not none of this fucking glittery fabric shit. I want hamstoned garments.

SPEAKER_00 37:40

Well, I guess they could have the finale. Uh yeah, well, yeah, it wasn't actually meant to be the finale.

SPEAKER_03 37:47

Do you know what I miss? And this happened a lot on Melbourne was um the girls stealing each other's stylists and then confronting each other about it. I love that. Remember Alyn? That did happen. It actually behind the scenes as well.

SPEAKER_02 38:00

Why aren't we getting that?

SPEAKER_03 38:00

I don't know where that's the best when they're like, You've stolen my game. It's just fun, like it's just a fun, bitchy drama. That's what we want. That's the low stakes shit we rock up for. Yeah. So who threw this party? Who is this Tommy? I've Tommy. I'm not a Sydney guy. I need an education.

SPEAKER_00 38:23

He knows he used to work for TikTok, so every gay in a village knows Tommy. Do you know what I mean? So but he's also been he's a housewife staple. I'm pretty sure he's friends with um some of the OG girls. Like for he, I'm pretty sure he is in season one.

SPEAKER_03 38:41

He's friends with um at the cat and dog wedding, perhaps.

SPEAKER_00 38:44

Yeah, yeah. The 100. I'm pretty sure he threw the cat and dog wedding. Don't quote me, but he could have quite that party. He was definitely in and amongst that big time. That's so he is a housewife staple in Sydney, I understand.

SPEAKER_03 38:57

That event was a shit show. I've heard from multiple accounts. Many of my guests on the pod were at that event, including the lovely Minnie Cooper, who did a performance that they cut out, which she was like, excuse me.

SPEAKER_00 39:12

How dare you?

SPEAKER_03 39:13

So they learned their listen this time, and they did not cut the drag queen's performances.

SPEAKER_00 39:17

No, they left that in. It was pretty quick. They left them all in and gave them their hairtime. It was good.

SPEAKER_03 39:23

So this was this was a gag when the first drag queen came out, um, which was the Chrissy drag queen, which I actually thought looked a little bit like Petit Fleur with that hair. Yeah, I see it. Yeah. I was like, oh great, there's a Chrissy Drag Queen. And then when they brought out the rest of them, I was like, fuck off. This is great. Snaps from me, 10 out of 10, amazing. Um, also, shout out to Kana Ford, uh, from Drag Race Down Under Season 4, the demagorgan queen. Love seeing her on my screen.

SPEAKER_00 39:59

Had her little um debut on oh well, no, not debut. She's been on she's been on TV this uh what second show now, but that's our IMDB.

SPEAKER_03 40:07

Yeah, so she was Nicole, which was funny. I like the taglines too. They were like a little bit cunchy but a little bit cute.

SPEAKER_00 40:15

One of them was edited a little bit, just a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 40:19

There was a little bit of drama on set, but because one was one house five upset about it.

SPEAKER_00 40:25

Oh, definitely. She um she wasn't happy with the production, and they had to reshoot a little bit, but you can tell if you re-watch it, you can tell which one it is. Okay, and with the queens like oh, this is yeah, well, no, well, because they it it panned out, and then with that they stopped doing the the drag queens were coming off stage, and then she kind of was like, nah, not not having this.

SPEAKER_03 40:52

The drag queens were gagged.

SPEAKER_00 40:54

And it was probably bad timing because it was a quiet moment in the room, so everyone kind of she was like it was the other side of the room, and everyone was kind of like but yeah, and then we had to listen to the retaping of the voice as well.

SPEAKER_03 41:10

I think my favorite tagline was the Caroline drag queen, who was like um something about her her biggest assets are always under slay. I thought that was cute.

SPEAKER_00 41:20

No, yeah, 100%. I think that was perfect for her, and she looked good too. Like she had the the big boobs out and everything that Caroline She actually looked good.

SPEAKER_03 41:28

The Kate one was funny too. She was like, I might be an animal lover, but I sure can't put a bitch down.

SPEAKER_00 41:34

I love her.

SPEAKER_03 41:35

Kira Billy is oh that's curibilly. Great drag queen. Yeah, she's stunning so good.

SPEAKER_00 41:40

I love Kira.

SPEAKER_03 41:42

That was sensational work. Uh and then the Sally drag queen walking out with the Swish uh merchandise.

SPEAKER_00 41:49

I love Farah as well. Like two of Sydney's best, I think. Like they're so funny. But like just to have that extra prop as well, just yeah, over the hill made it so good.

SPEAKER_03 42:01

So um Terry's was a ticking T-bomb, which was cute. I did like the tagline. It was good ticking. This was this was good, like no notes for this, except maybe yeah, Minnie Cooper could have been involved because you cut her from season one.

SPEAKER_00 42:16

But um who would you have had Minnie play? What housewives would it which one would be? True, true. I think she probably would have played maybe like Caroline the best.

SPEAKER_03 42:28

No, she could have done a good Terry, just like really intense. Yeah, well, maybe I would put Caroline, probably with the big boltons, yeah. She'd be fun. No, I think she should have MC'd the whole event, but anyway.

SPEAKER_00 42:46

You win some, you lose some. I'll talk to tell me about it.

SPEAKER_03 42:50

Put it in the show.

SPEAKER_00 42:52

She may not have been free that day. We who knows. Oh, look, she's booked and blessed out. Exactly. She was probably doing something. She's tap dancing on the fucking well, she was probably asked after experience last time. She was like, no, not doing it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:05

Oh, probably yeah. She's like, leave me on the cutting room floor once, don't fool me twice.

SPEAKER_00 43:10

Exactly. She was like, no.

SPEAKER_03 43:13

Uh Terry and her queen were splitting images. Like, I was like, wow, this is crazy.

SPEAKER_00 43:19

I can't remember her name though. I feel bad. I can't remember that.

SPEAKER_03 43:22

I didn't know any of them except it's Dakota Fanny.

SPEAKER_00 43:25

That's right. Yeah. We just like try to remember everyone.

SPEAKER_03 43:31

This should have been like a crossover challenge with Drag Race down under. Like, imagine if they synced that up.

SPEAKER_00 43:40

Well, but then like yeah, with TV magic, it would have been hard with like getting them to still sync up, but still, I love it.

SPEAKER_03 43:49

Like, today you're all doing the housewives, and then here they are. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:53

Well, someone needs to let Michelle Vassage know for the next season. They did a project from the no, they did the housewives. One. They did do a fake houseware. Yeah, that was trash. Yeah, let's let's move on from that. Let's move on from that happen.

SPEAKER_03 44:06

That never happened. Whoever wrote that has was not a Housewives fan, I'll just say that.

SPEAKER_00 44:11

No, that was a train wreck. That's what that was.

SPEAKER_03 44:15

Um Kate tells us that she's been biting her tongue and she can't hold it in anymore. And I was like, here we go. Chrissy's just learnt the word maturation, as we all have, and brings it up with Martine. She's like, look, uh what's going on here, girl? And Martine's like, Oh, I wasn't being nefarious. Uh and I'm like, girl, you are being so messy, come on.

SPEAKER_00 44:46

Yeah, I think it was cute though. Like it was like, whatever. Oh, so cute.

SPEAKER_03 44:51

This is the kind of antics that I want from my housewife.

SPEAKER_00 44:54

Yeah, these little like stabby little, like nothing that's even that seriously. Is top-tier housewife on a recorded TV show. Like, you know it's gonna play the tapes, like come on, like they know it's gonna come back and buy them. They have to.

SPEAKER_03 45:12

Chrissy and Conventional just goes, Fuck off. Yeah, only on Australian Housewives does that happen.

SPEAKER_00 45:21

But it's my favorite thing to see them swear. Have you been watching like the un the extended versions of the US seasons too? They always like they release like the reunion unedited, like unedited, so you hear them like oh Dorit saying can't, yeah. Yeah, I mean like she's fucking cunt.

SPEAKER_03 45:37

Yeah, it's so good.

SPEAKER_00 45:38

So good, it's my favorite thing.

SPEAKER_03 45:41

Yeah, but it's like whiplash because we're not used to it. Um, whereas here it's just like get a no.

SPEAKER_00 45:47

Well, if it's got the Australian twang in it, then it's fine, but it the American accent, no one it's can't it's kind of that is a bit like oh, but it's fine.

SPEAKER_03 45:57

There's a brief bicker about the Jordan Peterson of it all. And uh Martini's like, oh Chrissy, Chrissy, work with me here, darling. I'm trying to fix this. I'm getting annoyed, Chrissy. I'm gonna fucking punch you in the face, bitch, if you don't shut up.

SPEAKER_00 46:14

Like it really, like But it was going nowhere, like neither of them they were just like, yeah, it would but that they're both like, yep, it was said, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_03 46:23

Martine is me. Like, this is how I speak to people. I'm like, shut up, just stop. You know what I mean.

SPEAKER_00 46:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:30

Cause she's trying to say, like, let's park this because it's boring, is what I think she wanted to say.

SPEAKER_00 46:37

Well, either way, it's done. That's what she was saying. Like, there's no reason to bring this up. She Kate doesn't care that you said it. I don't care.

SPEAKER_03 46:44

There's a camera on us, Chrissy. Let's move on.

SPEAKER_00 46:47

Yeah, like we've got better things to talk about.

SPEAKER_03 46:50

Yeah, because she knows that I'm sitting here every week talking about the same fucking thing, and she's trying to give me something new to talk about. So thank you, Martine.

SPEAKER_00 46:57

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 47:00

But it's also a bit patronizing, which I love.

SPEAKER_00 47:02

Well, yeah, like that makes it interesting. If it was like if it was like sweet and innocent, you'd be like, uh, but I I like that it's a little bit like nefarious.

SPEAKER_03 47:13

It's so nefarious. But yeah, I just love telling someone aggressively um to chill out, isn't really the best.

SPEAKER_00 47:27

It's like telling someone to calm down, yeah. Like when they're really totally, totally. Yeah, it's just like just calm down. Yeah, overreact calm down when someone's fuming.

SPEAKER_03 47:35

It's it could be the worst thing to do, but Caroline tells us that she's scared that one day she's gonna wake up and Kate's gonna be at the end of her bed munching on a dead rabbit. And I'm things like girlina, this like I was a little bit like, oh, the visuals that this invoked. Uh-huh. It wasn't very nice. No, but like kind of see, these are the lines that Caroline delivers where I'm like, you've almost nailed it, but like you just caught like kind of fucked it up at the end.

SPEAKER_00 48:09

Yeah, kind of just like you could have had some really good, and then you've just gone and stuffed it by throwing this stupid shit in there. Like, just no.

SPEAKER_03 48:21

Could it in camp, but it was orcs.

SPEAKER_00 48:24

Uh-huh. She swings the bat but misses nearly every time. I mean, I still lulled, but I was also like, ooh. Well, because it was set up to be a good line, and the shock value was there, so she got that, I suppose. She always of all things, Kate for the den she's a pet. It's literally what's the opposite. That's why I was just like, anything else would have been better. Like anything.

SPEAKER_03 48:47

But yeah, Kate's death row meal would be a big back.

SPEAKER_00 48:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 48:53

What would you do?

SPEAKER_00 48:54

I didn't like that conversation. I found it a bit awkward. I was just like, okay.

SPEAKER_03 48:58

I don't like thinking about my last meal.

SPEAKER_00 49:00

Yeah, I was just like, okay, like, why is everyone talking about going to prison and killing each other? Calm down. Like, it's not that serious.

SPEAKER_04 49:07

It's not that much.

SPEAKER_00 49:09

Have you got uh a death row meal? Oh not off the top of my head.

SPEAKER_03 49:16

Uh I reckon mine is like Korean fried chicken.

SPEAKER_00 49:20

Mine's something in Japan. Something like that.

SPEAKER_03 49:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:23

Anything like that. No, an egg sandwich from Japan.

SPEAKER_03 49:27

Oh, like a 7-Eleven egg sandwich.

SPEAKER_00 49:29

100%. So good. I see you. I get them every time I go. Every time. It's like a tradition.

SPEAKER_03 49:35

So good.

unknown 49:36

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 49:37

Um, Terry and Caroline get into it. Uh, and I was like, thank fuck. Here we go. Uh, Terry's like, look, you were good. We were good, babe.

SPEAKER_00 49:49

Then you sent that meme text, and now I'm like, it was also very confusing because Caroline was saying that they they're not friends in like the scene just before, like we're not good, we're not friends with when she was talking to Chrissy, and then now they're good again. I was like, what what storyline are we on? Did you with wait, wait, wait, what page are we on?

SPEAKER_03 50:10

Like exactly, and now Caroline is accusing Terry of having multiple personalities, so there's a lot of that happening.

SPEAKER_00 50:18

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 50:19

And I'm like, is it because they're talking about often on camera personalities, or is it just because they had different dynamics after the New Zealand trip? Like, what's going on?

SPEAKER_00 50:29

I feel like it's their friendship altered. Do you know what I mean? They were friends, and now they're not, essentially. And like, obviously, that's two different personalities that you're kind of getting. Not that there is a personality split, but when you're friends with someone versus not friends with someone, you're gonna get two different versions, yeah, and that's what's happening. Like, hello.

SPEAKER_03 50:50

And then we got teased with receipts, but we did nothing, but we didn't get to see them. It was like, well, there's receipts, and I was like, come on, salivating, and then nah.

SPEAKER_00 51:01

Nah. But that's see, like I just wish they had a shown the show behind the show, because that's where all that lies and dies.

SPEAKER_03 51:09

Exactly. Uh Terry says in Confessional Um that Caroline has lost two great friends in her and Kate. And I was like, Yuch, that felt real.

SPEAKER_00 51:21

It did, like that was a stab, and you as a viewer, you feel it. You're like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 51:27

Yeah, like yeah, and with that, Caroline walks off from her little one-on-one with Terry, and we're back to the group.

SPEAKER_00 51:35

She prances, she does a little squirrel, and she had to have a little moment to walk on. She milked it, but then we get the whole group, which this is like wow. Well, I don't think they even had the camera lens for it.

SPEAKER_03 51:51

Like you couldn't you couldn't actually see them all at once in there. They had to d and then occasionally your big head was just popping up in the background. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 52:02

Well, for fun, like fun inside, we couldn't hear much of it. The only time we could hear it. Well, it was that or when they were like screaming, we could hear like snippets. So, like you if you actually look beyond and see a lot of everyone, you do see a lot of people go and look at the camera for a split second and then be like, Oh, we can't look, we're not allowed to look.

SPEAKER_03 52:22

Oh, if I was, I would have just been like, Oh you would have got in trouble. They would have been like they would have been like, stop reacting out, yeah. I would have been sent off with the straights and the other exactly, you would have been in the other room.

SPEAKER_00 52:33

So yeah. Absolute hell. We did get told to be quiet for some of it as well. That's that's from the CNST. We had uh we were too loud for audio, so but we still couldn't hear it.

SPEAKER_03 52:47

You were silenced by production, basically. Basically, yeah, too fabulous. Yeah, Terry says she was able to bond with Chrissy and the others because Nicole wasn't there with her cursed vibes, so we could all be our authentic selves, which becomes a bit of a talking point. Montano isn't into it. She's like, ugh, she's like, bitch, I'm always my authentic self.

SPEAKER_00 53:18

But the one thing I don't like about Montano is all of her zingers and one-liners are in her one-on-ones, they're never in the group setting.

SPEAKER_03 53:26

Like confessional heavy show, all the good lines.

SPEAKER_00 53:30

But like they need to bring that to in person too. That's one thing I really like. I love some of Victoria's one zingers. They're great. Do it face-to-face then.

SPEAKER_03 53:40

Like, do it one that stands out for me over the season is um the skin, all of this firm, bronzed, Arabic, Greek skin. I was like, honey. And feel that.

SPEAKER_00 53:58

Feel your oats.

SPEAKER_03 53:59

Feel that that line to me is so fucking unhinged, and I love it. Like she did, she definitely was.

SPEAKER_00 54:09

I don't know. Did I like a bit of last season or this season?

SPEAKER_03 54:13

I liked a bit of this season because I think last season she was in her own little world being a bit Dululu and she had the fur thing going on. This season, she was in her own little world being Dululu, but also being the peanut gallery, which I love. I think the peanut gallery is a proper role that they need on the show.

SPEAKER_00 54:32

And she no, but I prefer like a backseat driver than a peanut gallery. Like they like be in the car at least. Yeah, yeah, true, get in the vehicle.

SPEAKER_03 54:40

Yeah, like she could participate a bit more. She does think she's better than not just this group of women, but everyone on the planet. So there's that.

SPEAKER_00 54:49

Yeah, and she's happy living there, and it's it's a delight to watch, but also you're right. I do need her to like come off like the pedestal for two seconds and like it's just it's too much from the side that it's kind of just like okay, you're not giving anyone a chance to rebut.

SPEAKER_03 55:08

Yeah, it's kind of like do you watch Salt Lake?

SPEAKER_00 55:11

Yes, I do.

SPEAKER_03 55:12

I love the best. It's kind of like what I want Montano to become is like Angie K. We had Angie K in the background for what two seasons where she was did not contribute and then welcome to the party. Actually, that I do like that. Do you know what I mean? Like, I want I want Montano next season to come back and just like fool Angie K and like throw some shit.

SPEAKER_00 55:36

No, that's actually really yes. I totally agree. She that role would be really good for her.

SPEAKER_03 55:42

Because at the moment she's kind of like what she was like in the earlier seasons, perhaps.

SPEAKER_00 55:49

Are you talking about when like she was uh housewife yet, or not? K Angie K.

SPEAKER_03 55:54

Yeah, yeah, but no matter when she was you're right, she was just a friend of, wasn't she? Yeah, but then oh was she even that in the beginning? She was just like there, and then she she had one season as a housewife where she wasn't that good, and then she was sent to fucking snowflake.

SPEAKER_00 56:07

Yeah, that's right. She came to play. See, that's what they need to do, like they they figure it out. They do.

SPEAKER_03 56:15

Um, Chrissy says that look, everyone's banging on about how great the New Zealand trip was. And Chrissy's like, sorry to burst your bubble girls, but I didn't have the best time, and it's all because of Martin.

SPEAKER_00 56:27

Because of this one dinner we had, I had the worst time ever, even though you clearly had a decent time every other time. But yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_03 56:35

Because I'll have you know she walked out of the margarita bar.

SPEAKER_00 56:37

Well, she did. How scandalous. Is she gonna rip Caroline a new one for walking out of everything? No, so who cares?

unknown 56:47

Who knows?

SPEAKER_03 56:48

They discuss truth and honesty. Sorry, Del.

SPEAKER_00 56:51

No, no, I don't even remember what to say now.

SPEAKER_03 56:54

That's all good. They talk about who's authentic, and then in that spirit, Kate drops a bombshell. Um she just goes right in for Caroline and real.

SPEAKER_00 57:09

Finally, we know, yeah. It was brewing and it finally happened. Like it just needed to be it was a lot of like just talking around it and talking, they just get to the point. I think that was the problem with this. Like, none of them went to the problem and just dealt with it. It kind of was like bitchy little, like, I don't like you, I don't like you. It just like that's Kate and Terry were constantly coming for resolution, like they just wanted to talk it out and then be done. Like, even and they didn't care either way, it's not like they were like trying to get friendships back or anything. It was just like, get we need to do this, otherwise we're at a roadblock, and that's just where it kept happening.

SPEAKER_03 57:49

And then the reasoning that Kate gives is like totally makes sense to me. She's like, I associate the way I responded at the reunion to this memory about my father's death, which was really traumatic, and you're trying to say that that was fake or something, and then like to me, that's really clear. She's asking for Caroline to maybe have a bit of empathy and be like, oh, sorry that I um accuse that of being fake. Like, even if you think it was fake, like if someone's saying that, like, wouldn't you just be like, oh yeah, okay, I'm not gonna touch it.

SPEAKER_00 58:29

That's what I mean. Like, and a normal person would be like, wait, no, yeah, look, I that was wrong. Do you know what I mean? At least meet halfway in the middle. Like, even if Caroline strongly believes whatever she did, they can at least meet in the middle, then. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 58:42

Like, but but I don't understand what Caroline's defending. Is she just defending herself in saying that Kate's fake? Because in any case, accusing someone of being fake is really cunky anyway. So, like, whether or not it's like, I don't know, Caroline just does not win this in any way. No, and then when she goes, You're dead to me, I'm like, oh like But I thought we were already there.

SPEAKER_00 59:06

Do you know what I mean? Like, we you clearly don't like each other, you're clearly not friends, like okay, like she dug the heels in, she dug the heels in deep.

SPEAKER_03 59:18

It was pretty aucs, but I don't know. It gave us what we needed.

SPEAKER_00 59:23

I wrapped it up for me.

SPEAKER_03 59:24

Like it kind of just like if surely we'd never hear about this. If we have to hear about this again, I will unalive.

SPEAKER_00 59:31

I'm not watching the next season.

SPEAKER_03 59:33

If they do move the fuck on, like also, I don't want to see you know, beloved character of the show Dr. Kate, have to justify something like that. Like, let her have that. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 59:45

Yeah, that's I think that's something that they can just say, okay, yep, cool, done. Like, sorry. But I don't get why it's so hard for Caroline to apologize.

SPEAKER_03 59:56

It's not I don't even think an apology is required. I think you just need to drop it.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:01

That too.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:02

But like you're right, like anyone, any normal person would probably just go, Oh yeah, sorry about that. Yeah, and that would have been enough to be fine, but yeah, it's like pulling straws and teeth, pulling teeth, pulling tooth, and then Kate goes in conventional, and now I see what a fake fucking person she is.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:21

Literally, like they're kind of just calling each other fake at this point, but like which one is?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:28

There is well, unfortunately for Caroline, the edit we're getting is telling us that Kate is genuine, so skill.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:37

I think Kate deserved it after last season, though.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:40

Yeah, same. It felt like a bit of come up. Because yeah, she did get a rough run. They were all pretty yeah, rough on her. I guess in a group of women, there's always gonna be you know, something yeah, hazing. Just like Nawal's getting right now. Yeah. It's real hard. Um then the rest chime in on this, and we get our end of season Where Are They Now thingos. Kate's is first, it says, Much like the Chili Willy in New Zealand, Kate's eggs have been successfully frozen alongside her friendship with Caroline.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:21

I don't know if I'm just stupid, but I had to read that like three times to actually like articulate what was being said. I think I'm just dumb. But I think I was like, what the fuck is chili willy? Like it took me.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:32

Chili Willie was the ice stick. I got there eventually.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:35

And I was like, oh, okay, everything's on ice, like it's frozen.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:40

They were like, We're gonna, we're gonna link the ice dick with the egg freezing and Caroline's.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:46

I just don't think chili willy was that big enough thing to have it in that. I think that's why that that lost me there. Like I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:54

You weren't giggling and gagging from the penis-shaped object.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:58

Uh no, I was sitting there so confused. I didn't know what was happening. No, in New Zealand in New Zealand it was funny, but just then I don't know. It just I'm dumb. I straight off the top of my head.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:08

Then Terry calls Montana the peanut gallery, which I thought was great. And then we get Victoria's. It says, Victoria and Martin have booked a luxury holiday for two. Their suitcases will be filled with matching outfits, but they draw the line at sharing bathrooms. And I say, Is this outdated? Just a little. Maybe a year out of date.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:32

No, six months.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:34

Seems they are no longer besties.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:36

No, I don't think they'll be sharing anything. Except for like a road, because they do are neighbors.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:42

Well, I was gonna say orcs, because it's like the season started with like, hey girly, I can see that handbag. So now it's gonna be like, hey girly, like watch your back, because I can see that fucking hideous handbag.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:55

Literally, like, or just or the one of them will probably get a magnifying glass and the other one and like try and burn through or something. But no, I'm sure it'd be good to see them come back to like to get that storyline.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:09

I think I want to see where that can go because I don't want those two to hate each other. I want them to sort it out. That's my dream. Fingers and toes season four. Chrissy's is after briefly dulling her shine in New Zealand. Chrissy is back to business as usual, interrupting conversations and juggling balls.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:32

Johnny's included. You get it. Balls, Johnny. Johnny, balls.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:42

I don't know how many times Angie used that joke this episode as well.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:45

They love just calling Chrissy a slut, don't they?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:48

Well, yeah, yeah, but so she doesn't like she likes it. She's she's part of the joke, and that's what's fun about it.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:54

Yeah, she's part of it, but it's also like if that's all we've got, like, come on, guys.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:59

Yeah, a little bit more, come on, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:03

Uh Nicole says she's mortified to be associated with these women, and when she said that, I was like, There it is, of death, and now we said it. Yeah, mortified, and now we said it, she's mortified. It's like, all right, see ya. Bye. They're like, Why are you here? And the producers also are happy to see her go. You can tell, because they write, uh, with the ball in her court, Nicole's not interested in a rematch with Terry. She's finding pleasure, the party planning for her real friends and T-bombs are not on the menu.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:39

I read that and was like, Yeah, she's not coming back. That's how I took it. Yeah, she's gone.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:46

Uh, and do you know who else might be hopping on the uh last train to give a fuck a stand?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:54

I have no idea.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:55

Miss Carol.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:56

Miss Carol.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:58

Also, so Kate did Googling, but did we get we didn't get the goss.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:06

No, that's that's the show out of the show. That's part of the show that's what I'm like.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:11

How are we not getting anyway?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:13

I know I just the editing was weird.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:15

They there was we kept getting like, um like has she got a third nipple? Is she like got like come on, what is it?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:23

Everyone, maybe everyone should give her a Google.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:25

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:26

There you go.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:26

Call to action.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:27

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:28

Because there was talk of black magic at one moment, and they did not circle back on that.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:33

No, that was cut off as well. That was not to be properly.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:36

How can you do that?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:37

Like I don't know. They yeah, this the production gave them a little bit too they did.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:43

What are we doing here? Are we making television or are we pandering to the needs of uh difficult women from the Eastern suburbs? Because I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:53

That was definitely like the tone of the season. Like pandering to everyone's like yeah, things and whatnot.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:01

Because I would like to board the train to give a fuck a stand.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:04

Well same, but I I think we're all still just waiting to get on.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:08

I'm at the station.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:09

Yeah. And we're just we're still here. Yes. Waiting.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:14

Caroline says instead of walking the runway to the last train to give a fuck a stand, which I was like, wow, that's f that's a fresh reference that was literally just said and now you've put it in the title. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:28

Caroline couldn't they have just like um chat GPT something? Like just like all of these were chat GPT. But like they should have refreshed at least once. You know what I mean? Like just try again. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:41

Make it a little bit more zingy.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:43

Yeah like that. And add a bit of bitch in it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:47

Just one a little bit more sassy.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:50

Uh-huh. Like I think they just like dumped in the script that like with the manuscript of everything that was said and that's what's been churned out.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:58

And then Caroline was like, oh give a fuck a stun. That's good. I'm gonna use that.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:02

Uh-huh. Sponsor she had that written down on her hand and she was like gotta when when can I insert this in she's bought a house in Bali. Good I thought that was shady. I read that and was like oh really well the the these all these other women have houses in Sydney in Double Bay and then have a house in Bali no shade to Sydney but no but I I saw it as like shady as in like she couldn't afford one in Sydney so she went to Bali.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:33

Oh I think buying property in Bali is a bit of a flex um but anyway maybe Jackie Gillies can run one of her shine shine shine workshops out of it. I don't know well who knows maybe Lydia can watch her oh and she's kept the receipt I think that was the shiny date when they were like she's kept the receipt but how they said with Nicole's was kind of a wrap up I kind of saw that as a wrap up it's kind of giving uh she's left the country uh yeah like she's gone to Bali she's fled yeah true and I say but fine and I say Namaste yeah Terry is like um you'll be back Caroline I did like this bit because Caroline threatens to walk off and Terry's like oh you'll be back you always come back I loved that I wish that they had a shown the actual walkout because it is like a 360 yeah yeah 360 yeah but that's honestly that's camp like just like I'm leaving and then just waiting at the door announcement of it like everyone everyone but but everyone I I'm leaving like no I'm leaving guys this time it's serious I'm not you can't keep me in here I'm gonna I'm not no no no that's very giving that we Terry's goes uh Terry continues her journey to healing while encouraging Kate to start a family because she's sick of always hearing about Nicole's uh that was I enjoyed that I did enjoy that that was a put the knife in and twist it just a little bit and I was like the same honestly uh because it just was not like I'm sh she should have chat GPT'd an excuse like why why didn't I not show up to work today?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:30

Like just put that in there like something and next time she just needs to pick one and not um multiple like when she was like oh it's because you know family comes first but also I hate you guts so there's that like it would have been fine if it wasn't clearly not the reason like just at least make it more believable.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:50

Yeah exactly Sally who was in this episode I was told uh says while continuing on her glow up which I forgot about the glow up too that was takes me back it was 10 weeks ago like what was the glow up didn't I didn't I thought she looked good I think she looked good in both seasons and I do glow up storyline but sure and go good for her she felt better yeah Sally had a personality glow up this season I think she was awesome this season she was really fun um and yeah I liked her storyline it wasn't like incredible or gagworthy or anything but I just was like oh I just was like I like this person.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:36

The one thing I I think she had more like warmth and like she was more like the mum the Chica energy Chica energy hard yeah but we be miss I think this season we lost the not as much but the warmth of that like do you know I mean that and that's why I do miss that from her this season like the the love this season was cold.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:00

Yeah ever was very ice cold uh it was a chili willy it says as long as it's not uh what was it say oh Sally's happy to come off the fence as long as it's not to sit on the back of Chrissy's jet ski which I was like oh that's right there was a jet ski involved uh I do like these kind of like ties back to yeah the season because it makes you think back I suppose maybe remember what I've done with my life for the last 10 weeks and really made me reconsider um some of my life choices Martin is last and it says Martine now avoids groups as much as she avoids her nemesis the sun she's still happy to throw shade but only if it's within her five kilometer bubble stunning stunning like perfect I don't know what else you'd want it sums her up she got off with a great edit I think considering she like almost had like a hot mic tantrum moment in New Zealand I think she did really well no yeah I think she did come out pretty well like I think I just feel bad like what was happening in her personal life would have been so hard to go through do you know what I mean like going through this whole new scenario with all these women that wasn't exactly the most fun experience but it would have been hard for her and next is the reunion yeah I'm excited no trailer which I was like ooh no they have the binge released the host and with like before that so is it Osha yeah Osha's hosting this one I'm that was a choice in my opinion gagged by that and like I think he'll do a great job hear me out as much as I think Joel didn't do a great job last time I still would have kept Joel because I think he deserved another shot at it and if that's what happened if they actually ditch him I'm like I actually feel bad for Joel.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:06

I think they should have given him another shot she just lost as well and I'm like I do think Osha will do a good job I think Osha's uh born host that's what he died like really good at this to me a host of a reunion is a gay man it needs to be a gay or Alex Perry but like that he is a gay like he's a straight man and gay body like I don't know oh Alex Perry was so good but oh just to keep changing it annoys me as well like yeah I just wish we but like we also don't have that person in Australia. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:42

Like we just don't have an Andy Cohen S but that's the the joy then is that we can have someone that's not super invested in it so they can actually I don't know go there. Yes but so they announced Osha but we still didn't get a trailer.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:59

No they haven't seen any that's crazy that makes me think it's gonna be wild yeah what do you know no it is like it all yeah like it's uh yeah it's fun great I'm excited and um yeah we'll have to see next week I know I'm excited I'm looking forward to it it'll be a good episode I just I wish we took like a leaf out of America's book and had like multiple as well I feel like one is too crammed in do you know what I mean? I feel like they could just split it up and but who knows. Yeah oh and you reckon we're gonna get a season four I don't know at this stage I feel like yeah it's so up in the air I guess because how long was it how long has it been since Melbourne?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:49

It was COVID so I reckon it was like 2021 maybe was the last season oh really that I keep oh yes that last season I always forget about controversial opinion but I loved that season I think I would love to see Kyla again I would love to see um Simone again like I thought there was actually some really good cast members and there was some good shit brewing and it was actually really similar to these last two Sydney ones where so much of it happened off camera and that's why it didn't seem fun.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:21

I think that's the like they need to stop that I think like it needs to just be so authentic and like just let it play.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:30

Why are they being so safe like that's what it feels like like surely people get that it's not that deep like you can you can show us stuff that's happening when people get upset like every other reality show thrives off this top like Math City for example they showed stuff or talked about stuff relating to promo shoots relating to violent incidents that happened off camera like and yeah like ethically some of that tested me but it still made for fucking television that people talked about.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:05

So well it's reality and that's what we want that's the thing but I think like the problem is and I also have found it in the new cast of New York I think people are too self-aware with like Instagram and everything they kind of self-edit too much and I found that was probably at play in Sydney as well like people were yeah they had their idea of who they were trying to bring and that's where it it just didn't work.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:32

I think everyone just needs to be do you know what I mean like and that is not I also feel like in the edit suite too like we could have a a director's cut version with some more creative ways around it like just say something happens off camera in Bravo land they will stitch together whatever the fuck they have whether it's text whether it's audio whatever they will like give it to us anyway even if it looks shit so that we get the full picture.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:02

Well that was the one thing even with Prissy in the glitterati party when she flicks her hair and smashes a glass yeah we got we got a moment like that fine like the camera was a like you saw yeah I love those genuine like moments and I was like why do we get it for this like I just wanted more but no that was our one chance and that's what we got this season.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:24

But I do love those moments and like to read smokey in the car and just we needed yeah more moments she knew what she was doing then but yeah she reckoned she was just no well they I guess it is permanently recorded I'm talking more like I don't know if you watch Potomac but like that I actually do oh I love like when they were talking about the other woman or whatever that looked a little bit like Karen Huger and they will just put like a stock photo of Karen up and like change the haircut like that kind of stuff is like we need to get some gays in the edit suite that aren't afraid of a little canva premium Atomic I would say is probably like the gayest editing out of them all. Like the building flowers and stuff constantly like even just the cutscenes from the ads and stuff under site they'll put like a CGI like the they'll whack a a different hairdo on someone for as a joke. Like I love it.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:17

They're having fun I love it. It's like it's top tier in my opinion. Yeah same that's what we need we just need a little bit of that down under.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:25

Let's get it happening. I mean we're all they know we're all gagging for it so I think it just depends on whether they'll give it to us and they're gonna throw us a snowball and give us gold coast or something. I would be into that too. I think there'd be some unhinged characters there. That I think gold coast would be yeah because I only want I don't want another Melbourne if it's gonna be like this like give I want us I want it to be like it was you know don't give us some new thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:59

That's what I'm afraid of like I just feel like the ed like people self-editing and it's just a grey scary zone that everyone gets into at the moment. But we'll see.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:10

I think so well darling thanks so much for joining me for the finale yeah yeah excited for the reunion I am we'll we'll talk soon