The Real Housewives of Vancouver - Season 2 (w/ Daniel Tan)

Poetry continues to be in motion, in our back-to-back Vancouver Housewives recap. This week, Daniel and Sam take on season 2, arguably one of the darkest across the Housewives universe. The divas talk Mia’s new nose, Jody’s bullying spree, and Robin’s national anthem chaos. The pair also briefly kiki on Real Housewives of Miami, Squid Game 3 and more. 

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Transcript

Intro

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This podcast was produced on the land of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation. Welcome to the Halloween.

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Someone who is such a conservative reality television.

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The content is hideous.

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That was a long week. What a long break.

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Wow.

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We're back. And I just I wore the same outfit for Kingdom.

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I thought I'd just come back and wear the same thing. As not to continuity

Rachel Zoe's Show

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matters. Yeah. How you been doll? It's been a whole week since I've seen you. I've got no news.

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No news. No news.

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Um you were telling me though you you're re-watching the Rachel Zoe project.

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Since hearing about Rachel joining Beverly Hills, I've been re-watching her show, and I've decided that she's not nice. No. And I don't like it's a shock. I I I can't imagine I can't see her changing that on the new show, except the only thing is now she's not the boss.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

Yeah, how is she gonna go with I mean it depends who else is on. I'm assuming Erica Jane will still be there because Andy fucking loves that.

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I imagine she'll probably make fun of Sutton for what she wears.

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Jealous of what?

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And I do love Sutton when she's mid-breakdown.

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Yeah, we need we need we need Sutton to be insecure. We don't like it when she's too much. When she's too cocky, she's knocking down a few pegs.

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Very annoying when she's cocky. She's great. But when she's like about to have a breakdown, that's my favourite. Oh hello, darling.

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I've got a tiny dog here. Yes. Yes. Um, what have you been watching lately? Um, we just smashed through the Squid Game

Squid Game Season 3

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Part three. I've n I've only seen the first season. Okay. You didn't fuck with it. I did, I just forgot that there was more out. They just dropped it. Look, let's be honest, it's not really season three, it's like season two, part two. They just like chopped it in half to like sprinkle out throughout the year. It's really good. Okay. I enjoyed it a lot, and there's a cameo from someone that you do not expect to be in the screen game universe. No, tell me. Do you mind if I spoil? And it's in the very last minute of the last episode. Yeah. Because they're bridging it over to like a US version. Oh. And so the show ends, and you're like, oh. Wait, who? Kate Blanchett.

SPEAKER_00 2:48

Like, what?

SPEAKER_01 2:50

Wait, what? I yeah, I our Kate Blanchett. I squealed. Wait, so is she gonna be the US sector? She's like one of the like hench people. Running. She's like an evil sector. So she's running the US sector. She's like she's franchising out on the Squid Games phenomenon. I've got a thirst for blood. I never thought I would see her with cannot believe it.

SPEAKER_02 3:16

But I mean, Squid Games is like elite. Like the show, like the production values and all that.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

It's incredible. Yeah, right. I think it's one of the most watched things on Netflix, surely. Like Christina! We've got an excited chihuahua on our hands. But yeah, so that I was shook by, and now I cannot wait for whatever the fuck they're building like a cinematic universe around Squid course. Yeah. Everything's a universe. And our Kate's gonna be involved. Can you imagine if she just isn't? They've recast her. It's like Zack. Oh, she'll probably be in it, I reckon, like one episode. Or like get killed off very easily. Because she's playing the part of like, you know how there's the people that recruit you to go on the speed game? She's like one of those people playing the game in the side street or in the subway or whatever. So those people aren't really in it much. Yeah. So I don't think she's gonna be like I had no idea. That's fun.

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Yeah. Because I I I do I do enjoy her. I me too. You know, who doesn't? She's our Kate.

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Yeah, there's all really watching. There's no really

The Real Housewives of Miami

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are you do you fuck with Miami? Yes. Oh, thank fuck. That show is like Blink Blink and you'll miss something.

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Can I just say Alexia every season? Fucking roll the coaster. And she's she's going down a ramp with rocks hitting her. You never know what you're gonna get. Every single no, but how can one person's life be that chaotic? It's crazy, and she still looks that good. She looks amazing. Yeah. Um I'm a little bit shocked at Julia.

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Yeah. Yeah, girl, no.

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Not and I've never been a big fan of her.

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Like, she's been good, but I think my friend I like her for the kooky factor. Yeah. And I love like Martina being in the show. Like that to me is quite funny.

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I just wish Kiki and Julia's spotted swapped because Kiki is incredible.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

Kiki's iconic. I love Kiki. Yeah. She's always bringing something to the table. Yeah. Funny lines, great looks. All of the look like the fashion in Miami is like so my vibe. I love like a sexy, yeah, hot, like Latin vibe. But also it's like fluorous. Yeah, it's fluoro, it's prints. Like, they're not afraid to just do that. I'm so here for it.

SPEAKER_02 5:43

Yeah, it Miami's good. Like they haven't had a bad season ever. No.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

Like, even in between like the break. Yeah, and good example of a show where they did have a break and it came back and it was good. Yeah. And also the bigger budget.

SPEAKER_02 6:00

Well, you know, we can only hope. Exactly. Because I would love to get that job and that contract again. Yes. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 6:07

Thanking you kindly. Yeah.

The Real Housewives of Vancouver Season 2 Recap

SPEAKER_01 6:11

Well, let's get back into the lovely city of Vancouver, shall we? BC. What a what a fucking roller coaster. Speaking of roller coasters. So we left last season and we had the Jody Pylon, which you're snapping to. You're like, finally, this bitch is getting told that she's horrible. Thank God. Thank God. Then we have the reunion, which was kind of weird.

SPEAKER_02 6:38

It was like a big build-up for not a lot of payoff, like all fart, no shit.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

In the words people a big long fart, that reunion. It was back in the days where they thought that the Housewives was about like, ooh, people watch because they want to know like how much these ladies like spent on their dresses. So they went around being like, How much did you all spend? Yeah. And then it ended with the most awkward thing besides the Remington and the steak story, which was incredible. But then we get the host being like, So who's gonna come back for season two? Which I was like, you can't ask them that on camera at the room. It was so awkward. And they all just look around and they're like, Yeah, and you can tell straight away, especially with Christina, she's like, Christina has other things to do, men to meet. She's hung over.

SPEAKER_02 7:30

She'll be too hungover to start filming. She's like likely so. Like, how much wine do you think they consume during season one? Well, it's like, who would want to put up with Jody again for another season?

SPEAKER_01 7:41

Yeah. So unfortunately, we do lose Christina, which was a huge mistake.

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Huge mistake. We've lost our youngest housewife and gained an either younger one.

SPEAKER_01 7:49

Yes. And we also lost Rako, which was not a huge mistake. With that, I was like, okay, she she did good.

SPEAKER_02 7:56

She just seemed to be like, apart from, you know, when it directly involved her, yeah, she was always just on the sidelines, just, you know, like trying to keep the peace. Yeah. You know, she was good commentary, but she didn't really great supporting cast.

SPEAKER_01 8:12

Yeah. Essential to the drama of the uh $2,000 merchant fee. I'm still pissed off for her. Meet. I hope she got that money back from that. Which uh yeah, so I missed Christina, but I can see yeah, I can see why she didn't want to go, and I can also see why this is the season that killed the franchise. Because it was un this season is uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_02 8:39

It's just weird. Like I just remember it feeling so disjointed.

SPEAKER_00 8:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:45

And almost just a bit like, what are we doing here? Like, what are we trying to do? Season one felt like it flowed really well, and it was all like cameras work, just filming the and it was camp.

SPEAKER_01 8:56

Like Jody Even when it wasn't trying to be. Even when it wasn't trying to be, it was camp. And like you could kind of put up with Jody's like silly antics because especially because you know we were on the right side of history by the end of the season, everyone hated her, but then this season you feel like you're in the toilet zone where you're like, hang on. Did we all forget what happened? We all forget why do we all like her again now? And then we've lost two of the key players of that, yeah. And it becomes an absolute merry pylon. Yeah. Which I don't think she was prepared for, the poor thing. No, and I certainly did not enjoy watching it at all.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

It's it's like watching, like, uh you know, like an animal get like kicked on by the bigger animals, and you're like, Oh, this isn't nice to watch. Like, I feel like I'm I should do something. I want to step in. Oh. And I'm yelling at my TV. Screaming.

SPEAKER_01 9:52

We get two new cast members. Uh no, sorry, three. Um who's the third? Oh, do we? Yeah, Amanda. Robert. Yulia. I almost forgot Amanda.

SPEAKER_02 10:03

I hate pronouncing that name, Yulia. I o.

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Yeah.

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Wait.

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Let's read through the taglines to get acquainted with our girlies. Ronnie's is life's a journey. Uh, it's just more fun on a private jet. Did we see her on a private jet in this one? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 10:25

I know she's got a boat.

SPEAKER_01 10:27

Is a seaplane a jet? Amanda's is I put my demons behind me, but I am still no angel. And to that I say, correct, Amanda, you are no angel. No. You are actually a terrifying individual. Yeah. Like low-key, really scary, and also a bit of a plant, in the sense that like she's already good friends with Mia, right? Yeah. So it's kind of like, okay.

SPEAKER_02 10:55

But can you imagine, like, all right, so producers are casting again and they bring on your daughter's friend. Yeah. I would hate that. Totally. I need to see what these pictures look like again.

SPEAKER_01 11:05

Yeah, yeah. Look them up, man. We've been doing a bit of a where are they now deep dive. Wait, see. Because there was no reunion. This is very, it's it's kind of Sydney season one this season, where like it was great because it's chaos, but then you can totally understand why they didn't like continue.

SPEAKER_02 11:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:22

Oh. Uh they look rough. Mary is next. Her tagline is Life in the Spotlight can be tought. When you don't know who to trust. Again with the spotlight.

SPEAKER_02 11:35

Yeah, it look fair, but also like Okay. Yeah. Okay. We get it. You're famous. Your singer.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

Robin, our country girl. She says, I may be a country girl, but I've got this city in the palm of my hand.

SPEAKER_02 11:52

This Hannah Montana looking bitch. This fucking bitch. I I no, I didn't want to like her, but like I kinda did. I was a Hannah Montana fan at the time, so when she came in with the front blunt fringe, I was like, oh.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

She's giving MAGA. Yeah. But do you know what? Yeah, I I hate to admit that I really liked her Robin.

SPEAKER_02 12:14

Like I wanted to like her because she was just a bad person. Oh horrible. Horrible.

SPEAKER_01 12:20

But you can't sing. The way she threw down in this show, and the way she just became central to pretty much all of the drama this season. Like, well done. Yeah. She's great. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:32

But just like, yeah. Yeah, not a not a great person. None of these girls on here really are good people.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

Next is Yulia, who says, Vancouver's beauty is one of a kind. Just like me. Look, it's a good one. Wow. Yeah. Jody is nothing tastes as sweet as success. And I've got the perfect recipe for it. Still hissing. Like proper Beelzebub.

SPEAKER_02 13:10

Like it's just like fucking hell. She's gonna be one of the demons when they redo chilling adventures of Sabrina. She is a demon.

SPEAKER_01 13:18

Episode one is called New Faces and Old Wounds. Wait, before we get into that, what would your tagline be? I get asked this all the time. Oh, do you? I have one that I kinda have had just ready to go for a while that's kind of funny, but I need a new one. Okay. But my one is that um feedback is a gift, and I'm just so giving.

SPEAKER_02 13:41

Look, I like it. I like it. What would yours be? Out of the gold coast and into the spotlight. Incredible.

SPEAKER_01 13:50

GC Gill.

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Because I'm from the Gold Coast originally. And now you're in the spotlight.

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With Mary Zilba. Poetry in motion. So New Faces and Old Wounds. Uh Mia's got a new schnoz. This was like the best.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

Also, put Mia, give Mia a tag on it. Put her in the fucking. I don't know why she didn't join first first mother daughter. No, Johannesburg. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:18

Well, I haven't fucked with Johannesburg, have I? But they had a mother daughter and they both were in the cast. They were both housewives. Neither one of them married.

SPEAKER_02 14:27

Great.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

Yeah.

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And they fought.

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So good.

SPEAKER_02 14:31

Well, yeah, Mia Mia's nose job. Incredible. She looks great. Yeah, I've been dropping a book on mine for years. Like, you know, would love one.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

Ronnie is emotional with Mary and guilts her into coming to her barbecue. Um, Ronnie is in a place of like daytime Emmys at the moment after the reunion. She's just like wheeling out this story. It's kind of incredible. It's probably all she talked about for months. You can tell Ronnie's like watched herself back on season one and gone, alright, there's some reassessment that needs to happen in some life choices. Yeah. Which we love for her. But one of the choices she makes is just fully just going back to Jody after saying that she'll never speak to her again. And then she's just full team Jodi. Like, what does does Jody have something on her? I know the the opposite gets suggested, but I think it's this way.

SPEAKER_02 15:26

Yeah, I I think there's just like a you know, like there's like that toxic friend that just draws you back in a little bit and is like, I've changed, I'll never be like that again.

SPEAKER_01 15:39

Jody's just actually quite manipulative, and I'm surprised that it works because that would shit would not work on me. Nah, nah. I just couldn't deal, I couldn't deal with it. I guess all the people it worked on have now left. Bar, Mary. Yeah. Anyway. Um they sign a contract with each other. I have to have each other's backs at the start of the season, which I was like, can't wait to see this not happen. Mary meets Yulia at a gallery.

SPEAKER_02 16:12

They love meeting people at a gallery. They love going to an art gallery and not looking at the art.

SPEAKER_01 16:16

No, well, Yulia's trying to be like an art dealer, which I'm like, okay, amazing. I think she looks a bit Nicole Page Brooks. A little bit. With the like strands and the highlights. A chunky highlight. I love it. Um, Ronnie meets Texan Robin, another newbie. Hannah Montana. Yes, Hannah Montana, who I love Robin. She's she's conservative and very pearl clutchy, but like in her opening scene, it's like her like writhing in a hot tub in a bikini for no reason.

SPEAKER_02 16:48

Isn't it isn't she wearing an American flag? Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_01 16:52

She's yeah, she's like tits out for Texas.

SPEAKER_02 16:56

And her her whole storyline is I wanting to be a singer.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

Yes, and I love how she kind of wants to ride on Mary's coattails. She like sucks up to Mary because she wants to like get in, but some funny stuff ensues with the national anthem, which we'll get to. Uh Ronnie yeah, meets Robin, and they ride some horses. So there's more horse girl content for you.

SPEAKER_02 17:23

There's like we get it, you're rich, you ride horses. Yes. Sorry, VM.

SPEAKER_01 17:30

Jody meets with Adam H. Again. Oh no, sorry. I'm I'm reading the wrong thing. With I wish it was Adam H. It's Amanda, who I'm calling Amanda Levine, because at this point she's wearing like she's the black, like dark ring, yeah, eye makeup.

SPEAKER_02 17:51

But she's young. Yeah. She's like, how old is she? Like twenty I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 17:55

She's me as friend, so yeah. And she's making kombucha, which I think in 2013 was like a new thing.

SPEAKER_02 18:01

That was so she was ahead of her time. Yeah. Yeah, she's the original remedy.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

She is, and she tells us that she's a sober girly. Um, which we're like, great, we love that for you. I wonder if there'll be any tension around that at any point. Um, Jody immediately intimidates her and is just her usual horrendous self.

SPEAKER_02 18:23

But then, like, so you've got your friend's mum being mean to you on a show. Like that she wouldn't fly.

SPEAKER_01 18:29

Amanda, I think this must have been one of the first times Amanda filmed because she seems really uncomfortable to be there. Like, she's not, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:37

But some I but even her house wasn't how did she get on?

SPEAKER_01 18:42

I don't know. Yeah, there's not much of like her backstory in this show.

SPEAKER_02 18:46

No, and like she doesn't look booze, but she doesn't look that rich. True. She, I mean, you don't have to all be rich to be on it, but like fake it to you make it. Like, where's the play the part?

SPEAKER_01 19:00

Yeah. Amanda tells us she's replaced booze with sex and working out, which I'm like, okay, Dave. Another addiction. But then she's like, so at this point, you think she's gonna be kind of fun, but she's not. No, she's not. She's just like a henchman that's been put on the show to like back up Jody blindly, which is weird. Um, she's also starving her children. Uh she's she's like, we just have eggs for dinner. And I'm like, sorry? That's what I have when I am in between invoices, and I'm like, oh exactly, but like you haven't got children, like what the fuck? And she's like, ha ha, I'm self-proclaimed domestically disabled. Which I was like, no, I think you're just actually like this is child abuse.

SPEAKER_02 19:41

Yeah, like you're just not feeding your kids. So crazy.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

And her kids were young as well. Yeah, I think this is back when it was like cute to be like hee hee, like Olsen twins vibe, like I don't eat. Ha ha, how fun is how funny is that? It's like you should probably see someone about that.

SPEAKER_02 19:59

Yeah, like eating disorders aren't hot anymore.

SPEAKER_01 20:02

No, yeah, no. Oh, Mary's housekeeper, Mari, makes another appearance. She's in season one as well. We didn't talk about her. She's like the Russian housekeeper. Oh, I mean, she's amazing. She's fun. She's fun.

SPEAKER_02 20:16

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, she's like giving her like shit about what she wore once one part.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

We needed more of her on the show. Uh, we meet Yulia, she's 26, which I was like, what? We can get younger than Christina.

SPEAKER_02 20:31

I just can't imagine being 26 and going on a show where I'm gonna be bullied. Crazy.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

Like, that's still a that's still a child to me. And the r so she's Russian, and the Mail Order Bride jokes start almost immediately, and she has to deny this, which I'm just like, oh okay. Felt very of another time. Did we did was she single? No, no, she was with uh the guy, remember with the two hot sons, and we get more stepson fantasy, yeah, like porn like search terms coming into the mix. Yeah, she's always like taking them out for drinks, and she's like, Oh, let's step mum, buy you on the drinks. You know, she's with the older guy. Anyway, I love that. Uh her storyline is very 90 day fiance.

SPEAKER_02 21:23

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, what do you blink if you need help, babe? Blink.

SPEAKER_01 21:29

Oh, she seems she knows what she's doing. She was having fun. I bet she was. So at this barbecue, um, we meet all the new bunch together for the first time. They all make fun of the Texan and Russian accents, which I'm like I why are we still making fun of people?

SPEAKER_02 21:48

Like, that's not well, I mean it's 20 well.

SPEAKER_01 21:51

2013. So I mean right away afterwards, yeah. Wow. To think that they just picked up filming again after that season. I like they all needed like. The day after reunion.

SPEAKER_02 22:01

The day after reunion, they're they're back up filming.

SPEAKER_01 22:06

Jody tries to blank Mary. But Mary's on some high road shit at this point. And she's like, Hi Jody, bye. And Jody's like, oh, hi. And they like try and be nice. Um Robin is pretty much like says straight to Amanda. She's like, oh, alcoholics. Like, what? That's not real. You just just don't drink. I don't know. Like, who cares? And Amanda's like, shook. Like, it's ruined my crazy. So this barbecue is at the Ronnie compound, and it is for the paramedics that saved Remington's life on that fateful steak day. So, of course, we get another like days of Days of Great Yago steak. Yeah. We get like another days of our lives, like speech about it. Uh, and then Remington is like begging Mary to sing. And Mary's like, oh, like, yeah, happy new song. Yeah, it's a good thing. I've got poetry in motion ready to go. So she sings that, and it's very sweet. It's a very like heartfelt moment. Um, yeah, and look, upon further research with Ronnie and her family, she's had some really horrible things happen. So I want to refrain from like any further like jokes about Ronnie's family, because I think it's it's a bit poor taste. But I did just really enjoy this scene in particular. Yeah. Mary singing to Remington. It was quite cute.

SPEAKER_02 23:36

It's it's nice, like when you know the kids are in it and not being used as like you know, come in fighting for their parents, like Mia does. We've got stuff to say about it.

SPEAKER_01 23:50

We don't. I I was so rooting for Ronnie at this point because like, yeah, I went on a roller coaster with her last season. This season I was like, yes, I love you, Ronnie. I was really wanting her to like sure play the fence a little bit, but like be reasonable about how toxic Jody is, and then she like really lets you down, doesn't she?

SPEAKER_02 24:09

And it it's such a shame, like when they come in and they've clearly watched themselves for a season and gone, oh okay, like that just isn't a good look for me. Like, that's not who I want to be. Yeah, and you can tell when people go, I don't want to be that person, and then you can tell when people go, Yeah, I'm gonna hide this side from the camera, yeah, yeah. You know, and but they're still the same person, and she started off the first one and then just quickly went to the city.

SPEAKER_01 24:38

And I think it's because she was in a vulnerable place, like stuff with her family. Well, as we discussed, she's like a bored housewife to begin with, so she's already kind of got a bit of time on her, she's filthy rich, too much money, she knows what to do with obviously some issues with alcohol. I think she was just like in a fragile place, and like Jody really like took advantage.

SPEAKER_02 24:58

No better choice than to go on a housewife show there.

SPEAKER_01 25:02

Uh-huh. Episode two is called Drag Queens and Drama Queens, and we love we love it when they come to our case the community, and they've probably never seen a drag show before. Well, Robin certainly hasn't. Robin tells us that uh a man in a dress is is wrong, which I was like, great. Thanks, Robin.

SPEAKER_02 25:25

I bet you're telling your hairdresser the same, that's why he gave you that haircut.

SPEAKER_00 25:29

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 25:30

You know, like that front blunt fringe is something.

SPEAKER_01 25:35

Sure it is. Uh Robin and Mary have lunch. She wants some singing advice for this. Sorry, I can't say this was story to sing the national anthem at an equestrian event. And then this, I was like, what the fuck? This storyline is so crazy to me.

SPEAKER_02 25:52

This is just singing coached by like a 10-year-old boy.

SPEAKER_01 25:58

Well, like, starts with the her like Robin suggesting it, then like next thing you know, Mary's like auditioning as well. Yeah, but then the whole thing was just like a producer-led thing, anyway. Like, this is where you start to go, all right, season two.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

Yeah, like clearly there wasn't enough happening uh organically.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

They were they exhausted themselves in season one, and they had to fabricate some drama, which they definitely did this season. They could have done that too in season one, we just didn't pick up on it. But this season I was like, I see you producers, you are right there.

SPEAKER_02 26:30

The cast all brought their A game in season one that it was so natural feeling that they, you know, clearly weren't all great friends before, so they just you know, it felt like oh the they're not getting along. This one, there are things that are set up, and you're like, that wouldn't happen.

SPEAKER_01 26:48

Yeah, totally. Amanda gives Jodi a taste of her kombucha. And surprisingly, she's actually like into it. I thought she was gonna be like, it's disgusting. Have you had a homemade kombucha? Yeah, I've like made it before. And it's it's vinegary, it's not great. But Jodi was like kind of fair about it. I was like, oh, I thought she'd be you know, revel.

SPEAKER_02 27:10

But she she appreciates um a foodie entrepreneur. She does, you know, from scratch. She built her empire from scratch.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

Uh Amanda calls Yulia a Russian spy and a male lord of bride, and I'm like, fuck hell.

SPEAKER_02 27:24

Pick one. It's like, whoa. It's it's wild. It I yeah, like it's all it's all coming back to me as you like mention this. I'm like, wait.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

And then we meet Amanda's like weird boyfriend, this like guy from Seattle or something, and he comes over and they all every time they're on screen together, they're just like making it out, and it's like, who are you guys trying to fool? I I just don't think that I don't really vibe with Amanda, not one bit, not from the start. I was like, absolutely not. No, she yeah, she reminds me of like a shit's creek character. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She just looks she looks really plain. Yeah, she looks like average Levane. And I just yeah, I'm not here for Amanda. Nah. But she is essential to some of the drama in this season.

SPEAKER_02 28:17

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And clearly casting saw something with her that they were like, we need her on this show.

SPEAKER_01 28:23

But and we love watching like a someone go through like a recovery and then make that their personality on TV stuff. Mia's new personality is she's a fat hag. She's like, Yeah, I don't know if you guys notice I'm actually a big fat hag. But she says some things that I was like, oh okay. I'm like questioning. I was kind of like, I can't have him here on board for Mia this season.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

I I don't think I think it's like she was I I couldn't tell if I liked her as a person or if she was just like Yeah. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 29:05

Because you can't separate her from her mum. No, it's like hard to do, but I think if you were to get her out of there, she'd like on her own, she'd be fun. She'd be like, Well, we know what she got up to when she was on her own. Exactly. Amanda breaks down about her alcoholism uh at lunch with Julia. Uh Ronnie still says that she also doesn't believe in alcoholism.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

And I'm like, ooh, it's just such a like, why would you go on a show and say that to someone who's clearly going through issues? Like, I mean, it's one way to get drama.

SPEAKER_01 29:45

I just think it's it's too close to home, this topic, and they I think they don't want to go there because it's like they are all a little bit borderline, yeah. You know, yeah, yeah. I what did she say? She gives this analogy, she's like, you don't call a you like call a midget a midget, and I'm like, oh my god. And then she like she like calls, she says that in the thing.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

It was a different world with a different vocab. And it's like, okay.

SPEAKER_01 30:16

Uh Robin is a total homophobe and hates drag, but she will resentfully go to the like pride party.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

It gives me a little bit of like Lizzie from OC. Oh, yeah, totally. You know, like seeing the drag show, but like Bible thumping.

SPEAKER_01 30:32

Those down there. Uh Jodie's gaze. Jody rents these like plastic gays.

SPEAKER_02 30:41

I don't I don't remember.

SPEAKER_01 30:43

They get in and it's a short scene, but I remember it because it was like they were so horrible, and they just seemed Were they hot? No, they were like really like I don't know. It also they weren't close. You could tell she just was like they were the only gays she had from and she was like, Oh, these are my best friends. And I'm like, Oh, she's and like we've both been there, I'm sure. Where you're suddenly being very familiar, yeah. We head to Pride, uh, because Mary's got her gaze with her as well, but they are they look like actual people.

SPEAKER_02 31:16

Well, you can tell when like someone is actually friends with yes, you know, and then Mary's gaze, like they're actually friends.

SPEAKER_01 31:23

You can tell where it's like Jody's gaze. I was like, you pick these guys off the street out the front of your neighbor on the way to the room. You were like filming Jody from Real Housewives, get in. Yeah, we're filming exactly and Mary, why are you here? Is what Jody says to Mary. This is fucked. Like you are at Pride, chill out, Jody.

SPEAKER_02 31:46

Like, can't you just take a break? And also Mary looks like she's one for the gays as well, like she's probably more wanted there than anyone else at that cast. Totally, but there's something about like early 2000s, I don't know if 2014's early 2000s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you know what I mean? Like, there's something about like early seasons of like some of these shows where it's like, oh, they are homophobic.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

Yes, totally. Well, in any case, they're like being tourists in the space for their own benefit at this point, which is kind of gross. But like, we're we're down to have the housewives at the gay bar but yeah, just like yeah, don't be shit.

SPEAKER_02 32:28

Yeah, yeah. I don't know what I would do or say if I saw Jody rock up, I would actually be kind of gagging.

SPEAKER_01 32:37

I would be like, Jody. I actually don't know if I would. She's probably the only housewife in the world I don't actually want to mate. She's honestly awful. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:48

Because it's not even it's not there's no competition. Like, I've never seen like anyone on any of these shows that I've hated from the get-go and still just gone. Ugh.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

Amanda confronts Robin about the alcoholism thing, and she apologizes, which I was like, oh, okay. She like she may be a southern like conservative idiot, but she's got a little bit of heart. Um secretly, she still just believes it's not real. Totally.

SPEAKER_02 33:17

She's like, I'm just saying sorry to move it on.

SPEAKER_01 33:20

Yeah. Episode three is called Cat Walks and Cat Bites. Mia is hungover from pride. We get like a similar hangover situation from our girl Christina, but now it's Mia.

SPEAKER_02 33:33

Of course. I wonder if she woke up in the bed of another girl.

SPEAKER_01 33:37

Could have been. Jody terrorizes her, which was kind of funny. Uh, then we get the national anthem people calling Mary. This is so funny. They're like, call Mary, and they're like, You're in, but um Robin's out, and it's like really awkward. And she's like, Oh, okay, I'm gonna have to break this news. But then, like, who was was this on the phone? Because that turns out to be not true. Yeah, this is like what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 34:03

If that was the case, wouldn't the people who were casting it or like you know, finding the talent, call the other person and go, I'm so so we've gone in a different direction.

SPEAKER_01 34:15

But like to do it through Mary, I was like, come on, this is just producer calls 100% or they were told to do this. I don't know, it was it was clunky. Also, what is this event? It's some equestrian thing. Who gives a shit? They would not have auditions. No, come on.

SPEAKER_02 34:31

Oh, I if I volunteered then and there, they'd be like, sure. Sure.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

I'm surprised they even yeah, anyway, they end up with three of them, which is crazy. Because oh, that's right, it's not the national anthem, it's the national anthems. They do both of them, so good. And she's a Texan, so she's gonna sing the American, she's really getting into that American national anthem. Oh, of course, for no reason, there's a fashion show thing uh with Amanda and Yulia, and this is so funny. Like these two like at each other. I love when Yulia like passive aggressively is like, oh, I'm just going to have another glass of champagne. Like around Amanda, because she doesn't drink.

SPEAKER_02 35:11

It's like, oh there like there's a there's a part of it where you're like, okay, like you know what you're doing, you're good. Yeah, but then I can't imagine what this other woman's thinking going on. Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:28

Like, you know, I can't drink. But their rivalry just off the bat is kind of great because I think they're both like young and hot, and there's a bit of there's a bit of a like they're vying for that position. Yeah. Then we get my favorite line, not just of this uh season, but of the whole show. Give it. You're a little bitch, aren't you? So Ronnie, we get wine drunk, Ronnie, to Amanda, just going, Oh yeah, you're a little bitch, aren't you? And she's like, Sorry? It's so it's crazy because she delivers it with just this like smile on her face. She's in her, like, yes, soap opera. It's incredible, and then clearly she's popping some pills at this point as well, because it does come up later, and she like adamantly denies it. But I'm like, I she's Meredith Marksing. Like Zanny'd out, she's the Zans and the white and the booze. And then she even goes, You're very welcome, you little bitch.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

You know what? Crazy. Mind you saying you're very welcome. You little bitch.

SPEAKER_01 36:40

You're little bitch, aren't you? So good. Robin and Ronnie meet up, and Robin tells us about the national anthem drama, and she blames it on Adam H. He's finally back, the studio, and this is so funny. They like because she just like wailed into the microphone, like and apparently he's done some like villainary, like like he's gone in and like fucked with the track, and I'm like, no, honey, you sang that Soz.

SPEAKER_02 37:12

I can't imagine like singing something and being so bad at it that I'm like, I'm just gonna blame whoever linked up this mic. Like, if I sound bad on this, yeah, I'm gonna blame it.

SPEAKER_01 37:24

Because I edited it, yeah, exactly. You're trying to tell me that we've edited something.

SPEAKER_02 37:28

You're a little bitch. You're a little bitch. You're a little bitch.

SPEAKER_01 37:31

You're very welcome, you little bitch. Uh Yulia turns down a spray tan. This is so funny. Like these two between each other, and then she like shades Amanda, but she's like, Oh yeah, you go get your spray tan though, I'll just watch. And she's just like, Oh, you look like orange. You look like dipped in orange.

SPEAKER_02 37:50

It's so funny. I, you know what? There's no way I would be turning down spray tan. No chance in hell. Well, they're doing like a bikini catwalk outside of a shopping. I've never met a tan I don't like, including me. That's your tagline. I've never met a tan I don't like. Including me.

SPEAKER_01 38:13

So good. And to you like in a bikini on the beach, dipped in orange. Robin plays the recording of the national anthem to Mary, who's like, girl, you sound fine. And she's like furious. So good. Uh Yulia and the stepsons. She's totally fucking them, and I love it. It's very this show just to have children in one.

SPEAKER_02 38:37

Well, they've continued on from season one of like inappropriateness with the children or their actual children.

SPEAKER_01 38:45

Amanda, Amanda and Yulia do this fashion show, and oh my god, like Yulia looks incredible. Amanda doing this walk. She's got this like weave on or something, or like they've permed her hair in these like ringlets. Do you remember this? And they're like bouncing around. It was such a nothing moment, but I just was laughing so much. I just Amanda's walk. The look of Ulia. Yeah, she's so good.

SPEAKER_02 39:13

Like, she just has this look where it's like it's so hot a hot bitch. Like it is giving like she knows that she's high.

SPEAKER_01 39:26

Yeah, I'm into her. Oof. Robin's bangs. Oof. Jody and Amanda gang up on Yulia at a dinner. She's in the firing line.

SPEAKER_02 39:40

There's something I don't like about when they gang up on someone whose first language isn't English. Totally.

SPEAKER_01 39:47

Like, like it's a bit awful to watch because you're like, wait, I don't know, I don't know if she like fully understands like what well, like ganging up on anyone for any reason is shit too, but you're right, there's like that layer as well. And you're like, what? Like Jodie is literally just like, yeah, um, there's no stopping this.

SPEAKER_02 40:08

And you would have thought that she would have watched herself back and gone, hmm, maybe I need to fix this about myself.

SPEAKER_01 40:15

The words she uses this because like in the first season, she's pretty gross. They a little bit go on about like Mary's like face and stuff. Because their whole big thing is they're like Mary claims she didn't have filler or whatever, and they which again, girl, same, right? Like, girl, she's had some fucking villa, but like who cares if she doesn't want to admit it, like just move on. But she was like making fun of her face, it doesn't just because someone's denying that or whatever, and you want them to admit it, doesn't give you permission to like out it that they've had work and then make fun of how she looks, yeah, constantly, which she does triple down on this season. It's bad. She threatens to like end Mary's life multiple times in this season. I like took notes of it because I was like, that's actually a death threat. Yeah, like these producers would just like just keep filming. They just keep filming, and you're like, whoa, it's yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:09

I wonder if they had something in their like contract that said that they're not allowed to like sue. Who knows? Because if it was me, I'd be like straight away.

SPEAKER_01 41:18

I'd be like, I don't feel safe on this set. Like someone's talking about like killing me. Literally, it's so crazy. Anyway, little bitch comes up at this dinner. Um, yeah, and Ronnie just like kills her and Yulia. It's like I was yeah, dead at this point. Um episode four is called Second Chances and Second Thoughts. And we start with very you getting salmon sperm. Oh it's uh Amanda getting the her own blood injected into her face. Is this a thing? Yeah, but does it work? Yes, okay, have you done it?

SPEAKER_02 41:58

Yes, you've had your own blood taken out and they spun, then they separate blood red cells from the uh white blood cells, and then they inject the the white, it's like the the plasma. Does it hurt? Yeah, fuck. It doesn't tickle. Whoa. But you know, like I I'll try anything. If they like if they said that if they said that, you know, poop will keep you younger, sure, let's eat it. Like amazing. Like I've only got sunscreen on my face now. Like, I think everything I've you know to working. You're killing it.

SPEAKER_01 42:37

Jody wears her sombrero of strength. Do you remember this?

SPEAKER_02 42:41

She's got this pink sombrero.

SPEAKER_01 42:44

Isn't she just like out and like like on her balcony? Yeah, and this is we meet her son all of a sudden, and she's this whole storyline with her son, which I'm like, okay. You have a son? Yeah, I was like, when when is this poor boy? And he's like going off to Toronto, and she's like totally paid him to like say nice things about her. It's such a weird shot, like in this scene. She's wearing a sombrero. She's wearing a sombrero, and he's just like, Oh mum, you're the best. And I'm like, What the fuck? Sounds fake to me. Yeah, I'm like, I'm not buying this. Mary and Amanda catch up and talk about Jodie and Ronnie. Mary says um she'll think about it when being invited to her birthday dinner. That's right. And Amanda's like, what the fuck? Like, I don't even want you there. And you're you're not even gonna like you're gonna like think about it from you should be grateful to get an invite. I'm like, this is bullying.

SPEAKER_02 43:38

It's also just like do you want you're filming a show? Like, yeah, you know that she's gonna be there, yeah, whether you want her there or not. Unless you kick her out, then that's better.

SPEAKER_00 43:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:51

I'd rather have someone there and kick them out for the drama than not have them there at all. If I was filming a show, of course.

SPEAKER_01 44:02

Not so true. You're right, they made some strange choices this season, which they can't take back.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

Like it's all about like storyline, and if you're not really like if you exclude someone, you know that's gonna cause some drama, but it's not gonna be as much drama as straight up kicking someone out. Look at the elevator from season from last season.

SPEAKER_01 44:23

Let's be honest, like Amanda did not need to be in this season. No. And I think that was part of the undoing. Um Ronnie and Amanda meet to clear the air, but they end up fighting some more. Ronnie tells Amanda that her don't fuck with me button has been pushed, and I was like, I I love Ronnie when she's like activated. Oh yeah, it's like amazing. She comes at swinging, she's fierce, yeah. But I'm like, I get really into it. I'm like, yes, Ronnie. Yeah, uh, but then they bond it somehow over like a snake. What happens? They get like a bit mystic, they get a bit like co-sign, like co-star or something, and then they like move on.

SPEAKER_02 45:11

And it's like, oh they're like, Oh, you're I yeah, that's such a moon in Taurus thing, it's totally like and then they just put it to bed.

SPEAKER_01 45:18

Ronnie's really good at this. She will like cut a bitch, and then five minutes later you're like, ha ha ha ha.

SPEAKER_02 45:23

But I think we'll tell friends and it's like scary. But I think that's great on a show like that because if you hold on to it too long, the season becomes all about the one issue, and some of the best seasons and the best housewives we've seen are the ones where they can bring something up, talk about it, argue about it, they you know, step on eggshells for like half an episode, and then they're over it. Yeah. You know?

SPEAKER_01 45:49

The national anthem gate continues so bad. There's like a child involved now, some like X Factor kid or something, and trying to train like a 40-year-old to sing. And then Robin just like takes over. It's really funny. Uh it's Amanda's birthday dinner, and Mary feels like a lamb to the slaughter. Jody and Mia totally just bully Mary at this, she's so nasty. Um uh, but I love this Mary so funny. She she like takes all their bullshit and like bats back a little bit, but then she's like, but Mia's nose does look good. Well, I was like, fuck yeah, man.

SPEAKER_02 46:29

It's it's it's giving me um Lisa Barlow toward um Britney last season, like after the recording thing, like we hate her, but she does look really good in her bikini.

SPEAKER_01 46:40

It's that fair, like fair assessment of the channel. But you know what?

SPEAKER_02 46:44

Like if even if you don't like someone, I like how you can still go, you know what, it looks really good.

SPEAKER_01 46:52

Well, yeah, this is when Jody in Confessional like wishes death upon Mary several times, actually. And I'm like, what? Like, how are they airing this? It's how he's still filming with her. She's like saying things like, Oh, maybe maybe Mary just will disappear and like won't be here anymore. And oh, I'd love that. Ha ha ha ha. I'm like, that's not funny, no, like sure, like a bit of shade, like Jody needs to go to shade school. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, you can throw a bit of shade about Mary's butt like imagine if she just went, Oh, you know, yeah, you haven't got any filler. Yeah, and I'm not Jewish. Like, you know what I mean? Like, that would be funny, but yeah, instead, she's just like, Oh, Mary lied about a filler. I'm gonna have her taken out.

SPEAKER_02 47:36

Yeah, like what do you mean? Like, do you are you gonna put a hit on someone?

SPEAKER_01 47:41

So crazy.

SPEAKER_02 47:43

It's dark, it's it's really dark.

SPEAKER_01 47:46

Mary tries to leave, but Amanda doesn't let her. This is really fucked. Like, several times Mary tries to leave this party, and they're like, no, no, you have to stay, and then they just bully her some more, and then she tries to leave. And then this is when she so it's episode five now, high notes and low blows. Mary lies about a kid being hit by a car to leave the party. Oh, that's right, which she should not have done, but it's kind of amazing, and she backpedals enough to get out of it. But like, bitch, same. I would I would lie about anything to get out of there.

SPEAKER_02 48:17

But wait, doesn't she just go to the room next door?

unknown 48:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:23

She put this restaurant, and she lies about like, you know, like, isn't it oh my kids having a party or something, and then like something about a kid being hit, and then all of a sudden, like one of the other girls is leaving.

SPEAKER_01 48:36

This show, I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_02 48:37

And she's like, I just walk past her in the next room.

SPEAKER_01 48:42

It's crazy. Anyway, Amanda's pissed about it, and of course, Jody fires shots, and it's just it's a mess. But yeah, poor Mary, like, you can't do things like this with these women because they are gonna like interrogate you. Yeah. Um, Robin tries to get her to admit it. She's like, You made a white lie. It was just a little white lie, and she won't. Robin finds out that the kid singing at the National Anthem was on Ellen, and then all of a sudden she's like, into it? It's Robin's really funny like this.

SPEAKER_02 49:14

I wonder if she's like I wonder if she would still be into it knowing how Ellen is now. True. Probably.

SPEAKER_01 49:23

This is like pre-Allen cancellation, but yeah. Then we get Robin's Coke Can outfit. Do you remember this? The like ring the rings from Coke Cans. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 49:35

Jody, like, can't um she's Robin had some really odd choices on this show. Yeah. But I didn't hate all of them.

SPEAKER_01 49:46

I just she just I yeah, I can't help but have a soft spot for Robin, but I think then we hear about Jodie getting a gig on Top Chef Canada.

SPEAKER_02 49:57

Who in their right mind would want to hire her after her performance in season one?

SPEAKER_01 50:03

It's crazy to me that she was like even asked back on this show, let alone another show. Surely it's the same network, right? It must have been. Like, there's no fucking way. Well, there's no way this show would sh would put that on. Like, it's gotta be cross promo.

SPEAKER_02 50:19

It might have been on the same channel, yeah. Has to be. Yeah, but I mean, uh, I just can't imagine like why they would I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 50:29

So we'd spend most of the rest of the season in Toronto, and then again, this is where it feels really fake because not only does Jody go over, but somehow we need to get Mary and Robin there, so it's like, oh Mary's gonna do some like press for her song or something. Her one song. I was like, okay, like just say it's a trip and you're all going to Toronto, ladies. Like, I wasn't buying it for a second.

SPEAKER_02 50:56

There is it's so funny, like seeing how some of these girls, like on any of the shows, bring up the cast trip. Like, we know that there's gonna be a cast trip, and the way that they bring it up sometimes is so natural that you're like, oh fuck, they're going on a trip.

SPEAKER_01 51:10

The way Jody brings up to the other, she's like, I have to I have to go to work now. Fuck off. She's like, I'm here for work. You're not working, like filming your show.

SPEAKER_02 51:22

Yeah, we're all here for work, babe.

SPEAKER_01 51:25

It's killing me. Uh but first, before Toronto, we get the national anthems and Robin's Robin Slays, but it's so funny Jody lays it on thick afterwards with just Robin, being like, you're amazing, like an earshot of Mary. Fuck.

SPEAKER_02 51:42

Yeah. She needs to really like pick who she is friends with. Like, if you're gonna be like a bit of a flip-flop, that's fine, but make it known to everyone that that you're friends with everyone, like a Rayko. Totally, you know? But she actually just was friends with everyone.

SPEAKER_01 52:02

Or Chica. Episode six is called Cold Shoulders and Hot Butts. These episode titles get crazy by the end, but I would love to be the one to title Sam.

SPEAKER_02 52:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:14

It's my dream. Uh same. Okay. Produce the fuckery. We get Mary in Toronto for a gig, and this gig is like so whatever. Uh Jody surprises her son, Josh. Okay. And he's like, he's like, he's like, Mom, I just moved here, like, leave me alone. Uh Amanda wants a butt lift. Don't we all? And I love so they go to this like butt lift doctor's house. Why are they going to a house? I don't know, but he's like so creepy. Yeah. He's the guy that's like trying to skeze onto all the ladies like on camera, and it's like, dude.

SPEAKER_02 52:56

We've got this as evidence now. If I go missing, yeah, I know who it is. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 53:03

Yulia and Robin are Team Mary with this Toronto trip. Well, finally. Which is good. So at this point, you're kind of like, yay, Yulia doesn't stay Team Mary for long, though. No. Which is a shame. But Robin is on the Merry train because she wants to try and ride the Kodank. I think it's the Kotank. She's thinking about her career. She's thinking about her singing career. She's got an anthem to sing back in the US. Exactly. But these three also, these are the like non-sober girlies, so they actually go and like drink, which is fun. Uh Mia springs a blindfold cake test on Jody. Mary's performance at this show, it's like outside of an office building. Is it the opening? No, this is just like Mary singing her song on TV, and like Robin does like backing vocals, but the mix is off. That's right. That's right. It's crazy. And then we get, yeah, Jody just doing top chef, and I don't know. This episode ends with a naked guy jumping into the pool at the buttlift house, and it's like again, they're all like, ooh, these women.

SPEAKER_02 54:12

I'm like, some of these women are prudes, like most of them married.

SPEAKER_01 54:16

They're all trying to be so like ladylike.

SPEAKER_02 54:19

Yeah, and it's like we've seen what you're like when you drink.

SPEAKER_01 54:22

I know. It's funny. Mary says Ronnie doesn't have a drinking problem. Oh. And Jody calls bullshit. So for the first time, I'm kind of like, Where's the lie? Like Jody's Jody's speaking truths. Yeah. Because Mary, come on, you know, we all know Ronnie's got a problem.

SPEAKER_02 54:39

Oh, well, yeah, she released it's all she halved on about last season.

SPEAKER_01 54:43

And she's trying to like put like Mary's trying to protect Ronnie, but it's like, yeah, but we're not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_02 54:49

No, like you can you can soften the truth. You can do another voila.

SPEAKER_01 54:55

Episode seven is called Sweet and Soured. We're still in Toronto. Um Ronnie and Mary go for lunch in like this is like the tower or whatever. They confront their tension. It doesn't go well at to begin with. This is so chaotic of Ronnie. Like they they have a big bust up. She's like, who do you think you are? Don't talk to me like that. It's like unhinged Ronnie. And then again, five minutes later, they're like hugging and crying together.

SPEAKER_02 55:24

I find crazy. I always like when I've when I've watched season two in the past, I've gone like I've almost forgotten how much Ronnie is like a cha like a demon chaos. Yeah. Demon chaos demon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like she's all over the place. So I'm thinking, like, oh, she can't be completely t together right now.

SPEAKER_01 55:49

Totally. Well, then Mary rocks up at this dinner that they're having, and Amanda throws Ronnie under the bus for being on Ada van. She's like, pop another pill, Ronnie. And of course, Ronnie does not appreciate that.

SPEAKER_02 56:06

Yeah, but I I don't think I would either.

SPEAKER_01 56:08

Like, I'd be so pissed if someone she kind of lets it go, and then later on, she's really like, I denies, denies, denies. I'm like, okay, I'm not sure if I believe that. Oh, then Jody, did you clock this bit? At the Top Chef garden party, Jody says to the two like POC hosts of the show, You look, you two look the same. That's a quote. And then she goes, Oh, all last brown girls look the same, don't we? Back to Jody. It's so awkward. And they just like leave it in. I didn't remember that. It's like a blink and you miss it moment, but I had to write it down because I was like, that is crazy. That's crazy. This is from like that time. I know. It's wild. And this is her onset being like running around pretending like she's like bestie. She's like, oh me and the top chef cast, like, we're all best friends now. I'm like, you've just like insulted them.

SPEAKER_02 57:04

You've insulted everyone. She's so that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01 57:11

I didn't remember that. Yeah. Anyway, the girls will hop in a limo and rock up at the garden party for Top Chef Canada. This event is so shit. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:27

This isn't how many episodes is season two again? It's ten. Okay. So we're on seven currently.

SPEAKER_01 57:34

So it's like it's like wrapping up.

SPEAKER_02 57:37

Um but like all of their relationships are kind of fucked.

SPEAKER_01 57:41

Yeah, and this is when Ronnie's like spiraling. So she's at this thing, she's at this garden party, she denies being on pills or being an alcoholic, and then in the same breath, she's like, somebody fetch me a champagne. She's like slurring and falling over. It's actually like this is when I started to feel really sad for Ronnie.

SPEAKER_02 58:02

It's sad because like she would just be in that like loop of like getting through something can go on fine, and then something happened from one like an external aggressor, and then she's like, Fuck, I don't know how to cope with this, the only way I know.

SPEAKER_01 58:17

Totally like we get it. Also, to be on this show, like, fuck me. I would need to be wasted constantly. Yeah. And then in the car, she goes like full Meredith Marks, and she's like, That's telling a story about like Maximus or something. She's like telling like Greek like fables, and it's like, oh, the pills kicked in. Yeah, it's crazy. Mary tries to get Robin on side, but it's a hard sell. Um at a dinner in front of the girls. This is so fucked. Ronnie tells Mary that she needs a break from her. I'm like, oh, okay, how classy, do it in front of everyone. It's horrible.

SPEAKER_02 58:55

Like not even a phone call. Yeah. Recorded phone call for the show. You're gonna do it in front of people?

SPEAKER_01 59:04

It's not good.

SPEAKER_02 59:05

No.

unknown 59:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:06

Also, if a friend told me, like, hey, I need a break, a friendship break, I wouldn't know.

SPEAKER_01 59:11

I would be like, What? Let's why? Yeah, what's going on? Yeah, it's it's not good. No. Um, you can't help but think that Jody's got something to do with it as well. Of course she does. She's rubbing herself over it. Then Amanda arcs up out of nowhere and points in Mary's face and tells Mary to go fuck herself. Yeah. And Mary's like, go fuck myself? Are you kidding me? Like, this is it's like they just go too far at this point. Another Mary bully pylon happens, like this poor woman. Um, episode eight is quiet retreats and loud attacks. Robin gets a scolding from Jody for not coming to her big top chef event.

SPEAKER_02 59:54

Okay, but like you just offended everyone. Like, I don't want to go.

SPEAKER_01 59:57

Do you remember why she didn't go though? No. She was hungover. Remember, she like rocks up in her PJs to the limo and she's like, I'm so Sarah girls. I can't come. Truth is, I drank a little bit too much last night. I do remember that.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:11

So good. I, you know, yeah, like the more that we're talking about Robin, the more I remember I do think she was iconic.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:19

Yeah, but like in the way great, but just kind of like not a great person, but like she had good intentions. Absolutely for the most part. Yeah. Then uh Jody calls Mary a terrorist, Lucifer, and other things. Uh and Robin is like, okay, what the fuck? And then this is when Jodie threatens to cut her as well. She's like, I'm gonna have to make you obsolete as well. Which I'm like so she's just like threatening everyone now. It's like if you don't tell Jodie that you're obsessed with her and you think she's Jesus, yeah, then she will like get a hit man.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:00

Seriously, it's she's a piece of work.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:05

But then Robin, this is when Robin like cements her like team Mary status. Yeah, she goes over to see Mary and tells her everything, picks her side. Oh, then we get this psychic. Do you remember the psychic? It's like Ronnie sees a psychic to you know get some woo-woo. Get some woo-woo, but the psychic is clearly a producer plant because she's just like, there's someone, her name starts with J or like OD, something like that, and she's in your life. Like this woman just straight away just brings up, and I'm like, okay, here we go.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:39

Oh, so there's a fan of season one here.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:44

Yes, this psychic comes in and just starts, and she does it again to um Amanda as well. Amanda gets a reading and she also brings up the girl's drama. I'm like, fuck this.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:55

Wait, have you had a reading before?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:59

No, not really. It's not really my thing. TBH Jackie Gillies. I did Jackie Gillies did an aura reading. She did read my aura on the dance. I I listened to this podcast. Yeah, oh good. I'm a listener. But besides that, not really. Not a it was a non-consensual reading of my aura.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:18

Oh. Okay. Have you had one? Is it you into the woo-woo? Um I'm a bit woo-woo. When it when it serves you well.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:28

I'm not saying no, but I'm just like, yeah, I'm not it's not something that I crave or seek.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:33

Like when when you know my my horoscope is like a good one, oh I believe it. When it's bad, I'm like, I don't believe any of this. What's your sign? Gemini.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:41

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:41

That's supposed to be such a Gemini thing to say. Isn't it supposed to be a bit crazy? I've been called that before.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:49

But then you could say that about all of them.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:52

Yeah, but Gemini's that's Gemini's particularly crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:55

No, isn't Scorpio the worst? I don't know. Totally. Everyone's always like, oh god. Um then oh then Robin, this is why we love Robin, she's like, she brings up in quotes, that lesbo thang. She's like, she says that when Ronnie was blackout, she told her that she fucked Mary. And I just was like, standing ovation to this show.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:22

But like, did she mean like the way that she fucked Mary, like fucked a roba or like that?

SPEAKER_01 1:03:26

True, it could have just been that. No, like Lesbard. That lesbo, yeah, that Lesbell thing. Robin's like, I need to know. I just I need to know. Was there lesbian behavior? Do I need to pray to Jesus? Like, so crazy. Uh both of the girls deny this to this day, by the way. But um I'm gonna have to go back and listen to that new podcast with those two. Yeah, do, yeah. So Ronnie and Mary did a podcast. It's like on Mary's podcast, like a few months ago, and it's amazing. Like it's do they talk about the show? They talk about the show quite a bit, they talk about Jody. Um behind the scenes stuff, yes, yep, a little bit. Okay, yeah, yeah. They they don't have fond memories of the show, obviously. I'm gonna it's really interesting, and then Ronnie talks here a lot about the passing of her son, which is really sad, right? And what she's sort of doing in like the mental health advocacy space now, which is nice, and it's also sort of like how they're reconnected, and those two are like best again, okay, which is nice, really, really nice, really, really nice. And yeah, Jody, no one's heard from Jodie, they have no idea. Well, it's like a troll went back under its bridge. But Robin and Ronnie are still friends. Apparently, Robin was like there for her in her time of need. Well, that's nice, which is really nice, yeah. But yeah, go watch it, it was quite cute. Also, it's funny to see what they look like now as well, after all this time. The same, just older. Yeah, pretty much. Um uh, yeah. So Robin asks Mary if she lets out with Ronnie. Whilst in the bath as well, mind you. Like Robin's like in a bubble bath.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:03

So the original bath taker.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:05

Yes, yes. Damn. And she's like, no, Mary denies it. Um Robin is gossip girl. Like, I you know what?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:13

I I I need to re-watch season two.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:17

Because I remember liking Robin, but then also just thinking, oh, I can't tell. Because I was so used to seeing like the mean girls that having someone finally like a bit fun and pokey, I was like, it's not the show.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:35

All the girls are together, and without Mary there, Robin is like next in line to be bullied. Like it's it's so they so rank them, don't they? And it's like now that Mary's not there, it's like, oh, who do we pick on now? And because she's team Mary, they don't kind of pick on Robin now, which is like, what the fuck? Um, yeah. This is so weird. Like, Jody's just so toxic. The girls. Without Mary, go on a yacht for Ronnie's birthday. Because this is where Ronnie and Mary are like fractured, like not seeing each other anymore. She's on the break. Ronnie's back on the booze as well. Which is like back on it or yeah, exactly. And then yeah, it's it it kind of erupts then the the the alcoholism stuff comes back up and it's not it doesn't end well.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:30

No, of course not. I mean there's only so much you could take of someone calling you something, and if it was an actual issue at that stage, yeah. You know.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:41

Especially when Robin is there to call her out. So episode nine is called War and Piece of Cake.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:50

Is this the tea party?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:52

I think so. Jody. Oh, is that the last? No, I think that's the final. The Alice in One Land Tea Party is the final, which is almost there. Jody continues to troll Mary. Um naturally and this is oh, this is gross. She like rips off the gifted, like Amanda's gifted like Hermes bracelet and throws it into the ocean. It's the original Victoria Reese.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:17

It's very, very Titanic.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:19

Yes. She's like, oh darling, that's fake, Hermes. Let's go to Hermes. I'll get you a real one, darling.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:25

Can you imagine if it was real?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:26

It fucking probably was.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:28

Like anyway. We'll go to the glass house and get you a real one.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:31

The glass house.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:32

A real vintage one, not secondhand.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:35

Yeah, no, we don't stock secondhand, just vintage. Mary's actual friends throw her a birthday party, which is very nice. So then we start to see it's like, oh, she does have all these friends, and just none of them are on the cast of this show. Surprise, surprise.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:49

I I think she could have benefited from actually having a good friend come. Marika.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:54

They should have put Marika on or like literally anyone else. There's all these people at her party on like any of these women could have been on. Yeah. But they've fucking trolled her. Uh poor Del. There's more Mary bashing at Yulia's birthday when she doesn't show. But I wouldn't show either. Like that they're all really like they're mean to Mary if she doesn't come to something, but then if she is there, they bully her to her face. So it's like she can't win.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:18

She can't win. And it's it's just because she was like the nice one out of all like pretty much the nicest one out of all of them that was a bit weak.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:30

Mary goes to a matchmaker, and Robin is like, push them hard to get like a nice guy with a big dick. It's really funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:40

I would love to go to a matchmaker. Yeah. Yeah. It's like these two women, it's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:47

Um yeah, Jody convinces most of the girls not to go to Mary's birthday. This was so horrible. This is like the worst thing I think Jody does on the show. She like calls up everyone. She's like, darling, Julia, what are you doing Friday night? And Julia's like, Oh, I'm going to Mary's birthday party. Oh no, you're not. You come in and hang out with me. It's so cruel. It's so cruel.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:09

I just couldn't imagine like the energy that that woman is putting into hating someone. Yeah. She would be exhausted every night.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:17

Why are you so obsessed with Mary? Chill out. Yeah. She would be exhausted. She'd be exhausted. She spends a lot of time. I'm exhausted thinking. Oh, I'm exhausted. Oh, like, I need a blue talume after this. Um I need to see the bottle of it again. Blue Tloom. Uh, over at Jody's dinner that they have at the same time as Mary's birthday, which is horrible. She calls Mary a sociopath. And then Jody's like laughing. She's like, no one, it's on her birthday. Ha ha ha. It's like, you are just evil. And then she makes an yet another death threat. She says, give Jodi says that they should give Mary a bomb and I quote, blow her up once and for all. Oh god, the lid in the bottle. Foul. But like, how can you be on TV saying that you want to blow someone up? It's just like it just doesn't fly.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:16

But I think like anything of those like physical violence against like don't tell someone that you're gonna like do that. Like if you're gonna hit them, just if you're gonna do it, just do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:28

Don't tell me about it. The final episode is called In Costume and Out of Control. And yes, it's this Alice and One Lambert. It's fucked. It's fucked. Like they all pull a kicking and screaming. It's it's hard. And this was I watched this, I'm like, they're not coming back from this. No one. The production aren't coming back from this. The cut, like there's it's done.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:49

Yeah. Yeah. Like that I just remember them like all sitting down, dressed up as like slutty Alice in Wonderland characters. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:59

But then slut shaming Mary. They're like, oh, she looks like a whore and all this stuff. I'm like, what?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:04

Yeah. Like you're all dressed up in the adult sex store version of Alice and Wonderland.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:10

And Jodie going through everyone and giving them their like character. And being like, give Mary like a toad or like a mushroom or something.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:19

I'm like, it's so bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:21

Not even funny.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:22

Like, but then they're screaming at each other. There's you know, people are crying, they're walking off, and it's like, yeah, oh, like it all. This is either gonna be the best reunion we've ever seen, yeah, or they're not rocking up. Yeah. Turned out.

unknown 1:11:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:37

And then I've got to say, like, Mary is a class act. She even confronts Jody at the very end. She's like, no, I'm not letting this bitch just like do this. She's like, she goes, Jody, if I have done something to for you to think that like this behaviour is warranted or whatever, I'm really sorry. Like she like Mary apologised to her. And I believe it was genuine. Yeah, it was beautiful. And what does Jodie do? Fucking you have bad breath was the response. And that's kind of how the show is like distasteful. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:10

Yeah. And the thing is, like, if you were doing this show and that was how your last episode was, yeah, there's no fucking way I'd be going back for it. No. I wonder if they'll do a re like a reboot.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:26

I'd be I'd be down for it. I don't know how you would do it. Like, did so did you watch Toronto?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:31

The one season?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:32

The one season, that half of it. Not good. Alright, I won't bother.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:36

It wasn't, it was just like there were there were some good characters. Yeah. But I don't want any of like the Canadian housewives to be like, in my mind, the Toronto girls. Okay, gotcha. You know?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:50

Well, it's interesting because yeah, because we always whinge about you know how bad we've got it over here at the moment. We want our Melbourne girlies back, we want Sydney to be a bit better, you know. But it's like I feel like the Canadian franchises were truly cursed. Oh, yeah. I feel very grateful for five seasons out of Melbourne.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:11

We got three out of Sydney. Yeah. Like, you know, there are things that like we've heard that are coming out or you know, being talked about.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:19

But I want I want better for our Canadian girlies. I really want more housewives.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:25

Well, they were they were going to do there was this thing I read. I feel like a bit mumsy doing it with my pinky. It's like when they zoom up with like um no, they were meant to do like a reunion RHOV set to film a two-part reunion in July, ten years after filming the final season.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:47

This July?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:47

No, it never happened. Um but it was meant to have Ronnie, Mary, Christina, Jody, Ulia, Amanda, Rako, and Robin. Amazing.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:59

There's a lot of nature R's actually in this. I'd be down for that. I just, yeah, I can't imagine but like I would need to see.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:08

Ronnie's son. Yeah. That whole incident is what can't.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:13

Oh, okay, yes, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. That's and that's really sad. But and just Jody, like, we can't have her back on screen unless she's gonna be like a changed woman. And I just can't see that happening. Not even ten years after? I don't know. Can you? She hasn't, to my knowledge, she's not come out and sort of after all the stuff with her daughter that happened, the drive-by. Okay, so that's wild.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:36

That's wild. Like, you'd think there'd be a little bit of like, yeah, uh, you know, she's a changed woman now.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:41

No, but she's so pretentious and she's so like nothing to see here. I'm a perfect person. So she would have And her youngest daughter got taken off her. Really? Yeah. Fuck. I've got to do more deep diving on Miss Jody. Yeah. But fuck. I'm kind of scared too. It's like it's a black hole. I don't want her coming for me. Fuck. Why? Should I dunno. But even talking about it, I feel like I'm summoning a demon. Bloody Mary. I feel like this. Yeah, I feel like we have just through doing these episodes, we've conjured in the middle of the night, you'd be like, what was that? We've disrupted a ghost that was lying dormant. Anyway. Well, if you don't hear from us ever again, you know what's happened.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:18

Miss Clayman.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:21

Daniel, thank you so much. Pleasure, pleasure. What a marathon, but incredible show.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:26

I'm gonna read what you've season the rest of season two because I remember like I loved it, but I it just felt like disjointed. Season one was like my favorite. It was a slog.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:37

We like loved one. Love, loved, loved. And two was like, it's like lore, like you need to see it, but it but it was a it was a slog, but yeah. I was like, make it stop.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:48

And also, it's the only Housewives show that I remember being physically exhausted after watching. I'm like, my mind hurts. Yeah, so's my heart. No. I know.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:00

Well, let's go get fucking wine drunk and some blue to loom to loom style. Bye bye. Bye.