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Australian Survivor - Australia V The World Trailer (w/ Josh Taylor)
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Lego Masters alum and super cutie Josh Taylor joins Sam to assess the cast of the hotly anticipated Australian Survivor: Australia V The World on the pod this week! Who are our faves, who are the flops, and who do we predict will take the title of this insanely exciting new spin off season and the last time we see our fave daddy JLP grace our screens (ugh). That plus some Traitors news and podcast updates.
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Intro
SPEAKER_02This podcast was produced on the land of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation.
SPEAKER_01Welcome to Australia, Australia.
SPEAKER_00Someone who is such a connoisseur of reality television.
SPEAKER_01So sorry about this. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02Josh Taylor. Welcome to real.
SPEAKER_00It's so great to be here.
SPEAKER_02I know. It's so good to see ya. How's
Legoverse Update
SPEAKER_02um how's things in the Lego verse?
SPEAKER_00The LEGO verse. Honestly, not much happening on my end. I'm doing a bit of like Lego-related side hustles where I can, but most of the time it's just become like an a faded memory of the past.
SPEAKER_02I love that I that show totally blipped off my radar, and like the joke is totally on me because it is only going from strength to strength. It's only getting more popular. More people are talking about it. So I think I need to, yeah, I need to wait for like the next pandemic, and then I need to just hop straight in from the start and watch all of it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, exactly. Wait for the next pandemic. That's when our season went kind of gangbusters. But you only need to just go back and re-watch all the old seasons and do some episodes on uh on previous things.
SPEAKER_02I should actually. Maybe that could be a little, yeah, a little throwback series. Throwback series, yeah. But um, but you are also a big Survivor girly, which is what we're gonna talk about today.
SPEAKER_00Freaking love Survivor, it's so good.
SPEAKER_02Would you do it? Would you go to the beach?
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. I would love to. I've been trying so hard to get on there. I think it's like the one show that I would actually be like pretty decent at.
SPEAKER_02Please, producers, if you're listening, um throw my name in there. I know, and look, the whole Survivorverse is losing its shit at the moment. We've got 50 coming up. So much drama. JLP
JLP Drama
SPEAKER_02getting stabbed in the back by 10, which is equal parts disappointing but amazing to watch. How do you feel about JLP?
SPEAKER_00Oh, oh my goodness. I was I was honestly shook. As much as he was, it sounds like he posted on his Instagram and he was not happy about it. So yeah, it came as as much of a surprise to him as it did to everyone else. And I'm devastated. He's like the face of that show, he's so good. Who's gonna bring the innuendos? No one's gonna do it as good as him.
SPEAKER_02I look, I hope they know what they're doing, but at this point, I'm worried for the franchise, to be honest.
SPEAKER_00Because he's the heart and soul. He really is, and my hope is that it kind of tanks a little bit, and then they go begging on their knees to get him back, and he's like, you can double my pay.
SPEAKER_02Do you reckon they can afford what they would have to pay to get him back? They would be very desperate. Imagine, imagine they do that.
SPEAKER_00Oh, it would be hilarious. I'm hoping so. I'm just hoping that's how it ends.
SPEAKER_02Did you also see that Jeff Probst has just like come out of the woodwork being like, Yeah, remember that time I said that I hate it when survivors go on other reality shows? Well, I changed my mind.
SPEAKER_00Did you see that article? No, I haven't. It's just like a great read.
SPEAKER_02Honestly, and people are posting it like it's huge news. I'm like, oh grandpa, can we put grandpa to bed? They took the wrong host off. Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_00That guy's been there for far too long.
SPEAKER_02I know. But I think it comes after all the success of heaps of ex-survivor players going on shows like The Traders and you know, whatever the fuck else. Um,
The Traitors For Normies
SPEAKER_02but did you see they've just announced the next Traders US is gonna be uh normies. No celebs, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Going back to normies.
SPEAKER_02Well, I don't think they ever did normies on their version. Oh the US version of it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Doing normies, interesting.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, okay, interesting.
SPEAKER_00I'd like to throw some new spice into the mix. That'll be good.
SPEAKER_02I like the mixed casting because then you get normies and like reality stars interacting, which is my favorite uh recipe.
SPEAKER_00Well, maybe they can throw me on that show first. Would you go on the traitors? Oh, I would love to. I actually saw the applications come up for the very first season of it, and obviously they don't tell you what the show is when it comes out. It's like new show that's gonna be airing, it's about murder show. Murder show. And I was like, oh, that sounds interesting. I didn't end up applying, but man, I wish I did. That would have been so fun.
SPEAKER_02Well, I hear that's coming back too to Australian television. Love that, love that. Um, what about Big Brother?
BBAU is Back
SPEAKER_02Are you gonna fuck with that? They're bringing that back.
SPEAKER_00Oh no, they're bringing back the original form. I was thought that was quite an interesting move. It had so much controversy around when it was live, and I think it's gonna be it's gonna be great. It's gonna be so freaking good. There's just gonna be so much drama, which I think is what people are here for. Um, I don't think I would want to go on it though. I feel like just being on camera 24-7 would just be full on in that environment. I don't know, you just can't do anything without it being like micro um zoomed in on.
SPEAKER_02Totally. I yeah, I just don't trust myself nor the production enough to do that, but I think it could be fun. Oh, the montages of just like yeah, things that you had no idea that you do.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, but no, I'm keen to see, like, I'm cautiously optimistic about that one because I was such a you know, the original was so like formative, especially for us millennial queers. So, like, yeah, happy to have it back. But most excited, obviously, for this Sunday, the kickoff of what Nick Idanza is calling the best episode of Survivor ever made. The first episode. Or the first episode. He's saying the first episode is the best one ever made. So that's we've been hanging out for the time.
SPEAKER_00I'm so keen.
SPEAKER_02Australia versus the world. They're not giving us much on these trailers, which makes me think it's either flop or fire straight from the beginning, but nowhere in between.
SPEAKER_00They've not advertised Sue's big move, so there's still time. There's still time.
SPEAKER_02Parv's big move.
SPEAKER_00I am so excited for this. Like, this is like the all-stars of all stars. Like, this is the Mount Rushmore, as someone put it, of Survivor, and they've condensed it. So, like, they're gonna have to just hit the ground running, which is what I'm so keen for. There's no time to just sit in the background and fade and coast through. Like, it's gonna be so good. I'm very excited. This might be, I'm hoping it's a good season because I'm hoping it's gonna be like the best one I've seen yet.
SPEAKER_02Because I from what I've heard, the murmurings I've heard, it's gonna be fucking awesome. I love they're kind of just smashing it out in three weeks. It's gonna be this like big moment. This cast is like so stacked. I love there's the combination of like royalty and kind of like underdogs from bizarre seasons we don't know about, but I trust the selection process, and I trust that these unknowns are gonna like rock my world.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, who's like standing out for you?
SPEAKER_00Uh like obviously, we all know that King George
King George
SPEAKER_00is the one of the survivor goats from of Australia. So everyone's talking about him, everyone's talking about him being there. He's such a show pony. He loves to talk a big game and he can back it up, like you know, credit where credit's due. Um, you have the pod King George. Yeah, really.
SPEAKER_02Interesting to hear you say that because he's divisive. I mean, I have a lot of people comment on the pod being like, oh my god, I cannot stand George. And then I have people being like, love George. So it's like it's it's Vegimite, you know, which is Perfect TV.
SPEAKER_00Because when I first saw him on like the very first season he was on, I was like, Who is this lunatic? Like the first like few episodes, he he just like pulls half of the tribe out of tribal, but it wasn't like a good half. And I was like, What is he doing? And I hated him so much, and I wanted him gone. But by the end of that season, I was like, I love this man, he needs to come back, he's incredible, and then he just went from strength to strength every season he was in. So he is someone I'm very excited to watch.
SPEAKER_02I think if you can just like suspend how you feel about people personally for five seconds and just enjoy the television that George gives us. I mean, he gave us that tribal that the New York Times called, like, you know, the best tribal.
SPEAKER_00The one where Fraser got out. My goodness, that was masterclass.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. Speaking of Fraser, have you seen that he now has his own, well it's like his own, but he's on a like Melbourne real estate show? No, it's called Listing Melbourne. I was tempted to cover it on this pod, but I was like, who the who the fuck is gonna watch this? Like absolute dumpster fire.
SPEAKER_00But I was like, probably watch it because of the part.
SPEAKER_02Exactly. I was like, Short King Fraser reappears.
SPEAKER_00Trying to stay relevant. David, is
Golden God
SPEAKER_00that someone else I'm also keen to see?
SPEAKER_02Okay, God and God.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he was pretty awesome on his season. He dominated that all-star season, and he was obviously on Deal or No Deal Island, which was probably one of the worst shows I've ever seen. But I I watched it.
SPEAKER_02Oh, so you did watch it. I like watched. I committed to the whole thing. Tell me everything about Don D. So him and Parv, were they? They were like so each other.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. They were like in each other's pockets the whole time. They were like calling themselves the family, like he was the dad, she was the mom, and they were like adopting kids into their family, and they were honestly they were running it like they were absolutely dominating.
SPEAKER_02And did no one from the cast besides Parv know that he was a survivor player and winner? Okay, right. That's no one knew. Do you know what that is giving? I don't know if you watched the what was it called? The triangle, the circle, the circle. Oh, the circle. The circle. No, the one with Nina. What the fuck was that show called? I watched the whole thing, I've forgotten the name. Whatever it was called. She went on that um Sandra's daughter Nina. Yeah, yeah. Similarly, no one knew she'd been on Australian Survivor because Jeff Probst doesn't allow Australian Survivor to be aired in America, um, allegedly. And uh so she and she ended up winning that season.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh, and then at the end she was like, 'You fucking idiots, I'm Sandra's daughter, and I've like played Australian Survivor,' and they were all like, 'Well, damn.' So, people in America, like, watch some other international content. You might essentially what David did.
SPEAKER_00He got to the end, he's like, By the way, I played Survivor twice and one. They would have died. Yeah, yeah. Um, and this is the thing I'm actually most excited to see because him and Parv know each other well. I assume that the format is like the Australian tribal will start together and then the world tribal start together, and then the merge will kind of bring them together. So they may not interact with in the beginning, but like when when they come together, like that's gonna be insane if they make it that far, because they're obviously huge names.
SPEAKER_02And she has got something on him. Exactly.
SPEAKER_00I was about to say he has won, like, was it six million dollars or something?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, which she's gonna be the only person in the because I don't think it had even aired. No, so even if you wanted to know that, you couldn't know that.
SPEAKER_00No, but she knows that. So I'm wondering if surely she's gonna use that piece of information to tell everyone by the way, this guy just won six million dollars on another TV show. We should get him out. I think people wouldn't even believe her, they'll be like, no, he didn't. Truly, yeah, because who would an absurd amount of money?
SPEAKER_02Parvity told me on the beach, hey, De Golden God won six million American dollars on this new show called Deal and the Island. Firstly, I'd be like, that show is made up, you've made that up. I mean, no one's won that much money before, so shut up. Plus, I'd be like, it's Parv. You'd think she's pulling something on you, so maybe people won't believe her. Yeah, because it is so it does sound so outrageous. She could have signed something, like an NDA or something, and she can't say, which would work in the David's favor.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so there's a couple of survivor players I'm very excited to see.
SPEAKER_02So we've got George and David out of the way. Should we just stick on Ozzy tribe then and make our way through? I'm personally most excited for
God Mother Janine
SPEAKER_02Janane. So boost Queen Janaine. Like, I love she's great, and also it's been so long since we've seen her on Survivor, and I think it's time we had the godmother back on our screen. So perfect casting. I think she's gonna be awesome. She's also one of the sort of only older players, I think. So that's probably I think gonna be an advantage because they might not think she's a threat. So she might like, you know, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I think she's one of those players that's that has like she wasn't such a huge name in her season, but she obviously did well and she understood it, and she's a business woman, she knows how to wheel and deal. So, like, I feel like she's one of those players that will go far because she'll just kind of like you know, know how to weave her magic to like attach on to the people she needs to attach on at the right times and let them go at the right times.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and she'll know how to let because there's a lot of big egos on this show, and there's a lot of like ex-winners and people with this like reputation as get good game players. She could she kind of has one, but nowhere near to that level. So people are gonna try and use her as a number, I think, but she has the capacity to outmaneuver that, I think.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think she's probably gonna go pretty deep.
SPEAKER_02Another
Sarah (The Face)
SPEAKER_02girly I'm so excited about returning is Sarah. So people may not realize that Sarah was on possibly my favorite reality show of all time, The Face Australia. Did you watch this?
SPEAKER_00No, I have no idea what this is.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. So homework for everyone. Fuck watch fuck rewatching like old survivor seasons. Go and find a copy of The Face Australia season one and thank me later. It's basically America's next top model, but Naomi Campbell is the host. And she did it in America, and then she comes to Australia for this like one-off season, and it's basically like Naomi Campbell pits herself against these like two Aussie supermodels, and it's like the voice style where they have their crew and they back their crew, and it's amazing. And Naomi Campbell gets so furious every time one of her girls doesn't win, like, she's like openly wants the show to be rigged in her favour, and Sarah is like such a legend throughout. Um, so I cannot wait to see her on my screens again.
SPEAKER_00There you go. I thought she was such a wild card choice. Like, you look at her credentials on Survivor at the very least, like she played in what season two, like 2017, so long ago. She came like eight or something, so she didn't really go like super deep, deep-ish.
SPEAKER_02Well, she was a runner up on the face, so and she was a run-up on the face, apparently.
SPEAKER_00So, like, no one's talking about that. I was a bit I was a bit interested in this casting choice. You know, I feel like there's plenty of other players that would have I would have preferred to see above.
SPEAKER_02It's channel 10 and she's hot. So sorry, not sorry, but that's how it works in Australian television, Josh. So it seems um but let's talk about Kirby.
Kirby
SPEAKER_02I'm so excited to have Kirby back. Great choice. Um, particularly like I think channel 10 are starting to take this a bit more seriously, but like, especially if you're doing an like Australia V the World show, like, of course, we need to have some like First Nations representation on the team. So love having that in the form of Kirby. And that aside, she's just a fucking badass bitch, and I cannot wait to see her play again.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I love how she has like this cold sense of humor where she's just like, Yeah, okay, whatever, let's just do that. And like, I don't know, she just likes messing with people's heads in that way. And someone's like, uh, I can't remember who it was. She was cursing in her season and was like, Fine, we'll just keep going up against each other every episode. And to the end of the season, she's like, Yeah, sounds like a fun plan. Let's do that. It's just cool.
SPEAKER_02Could not be flapped. She was unflappable that whole season. She was like, Oh, yeah. And she did the correct thing that you need to do to get airtime on this show is to have a rival. So she had Ferris, so every week on her season, it was like Ferris V Kirby, and those promos were just like building that up, building her like icon status. Um, and then to have your rival ultimately win shows that you are like a worthy player, right?
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, so I think she's gonna be really good.
SPEAKER_00So and and because she kind of only has just really come off playing, like, she's gonna be fresh, she's gonna be, I think, ready to mingle with the big dogs. Like, obviously, she I think she hasn't had as much opportunity as these returning players to prove how good she is. So I think this would be a really good opportunity for her to be like, actually, I can push it with the big legs.
SPEAKER_02I think people don't realize how into Survivor she is as well. I know a lot of people think she's just this like, oh, I just rocked up on set, I don't know what's going on. But I've seen her around at the at the meetups, at the stuff. Like, she's doing the you know, she she loves it, she's she's right into it. Um, and she's a really good sport.
SPEAKER_00Um, so yeah, I bumped into her at a bar once and had some set so hi, I got a photo.
SPEAKER_02She would have been lovely, yeah. She's so lovely. She was absolutely yeah, I've met her a couple times now and just like true legend. Yeah. Um, who else is on Aussie?
Shonee
SPEAKER_02We've got Shawnee, my god.
SPEAKER_00Oh just saving the best to last. I know. She's probably also actually one of the people that I'm most excited to see. She has got such good social game, but more importantly, she's such good television, she's so fun. She like she knows how to be like sassy and bring attitude. Like, she's so fun to watch. And she's I think she's played the most out of everyone that's there. She's played like a crazy number of Meta Survivor.
SPEAKER_02Just less than Sari, maybe, but still a lot. I I heard some stats.
SPEAKER_00She's played a I'm looking at like some of the stats now. She oh no, she's played more. She's played 124 days. Sari's played 121.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god! How is that's crazy. Well, yeah, inflation's a bitch, so she's gotta come back and get her.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, as she put it, she needs to get her dollars, she needs to get paid. I'm very excited to see. Or a quarter million. In Australia, it's half, isn't it? Half. Is it okay? Maybe it's a quarter, I don't know. Not a lot.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so I fucking ride for Shawnee, and I am so excited that we get some the next part of the story between George and Shawnee. Because famously, the last time they played together, not only did George like fucking stab her in the back, he voted her off the jury, which is like the most like I would never forgive someone for doing that to me.
SPEAKER_00I would be livid, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02No more jury villa, no more mugs with the girls, like on a on an economy flight home.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. She would have been absolutely ropeable. So, yeah, and in the promo, she's like, Yep, I'm back, I'm ready for revenge. And I want to see it because it's gonna make great television, but I hope that doesn't like give her blinkers to like not play well. I don't want to just be so focused on that that she's gonna spend her own game.
SPEAKER_02She can rise above, or she would you know what I hope and predict? I think she'll be like, Oh George, whatever, I'm over it, I don't care. But then in confessional, she'll be like, I'm taking that faggot out.
SPEAKER_00Please, that's what we need to see. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
Luke Toki
SPEAKER_00yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I did okay, she wasn't the last. I forgot about Mr. Toki. You did, I was about to say Luke Toki, who look, I'm not the biggest fan of Luke, but I appreciate why he's beloved by the Australian public because he's our Larrikan.
SPEAKER_00He's the Larrikan, you gotta have the Larkin.
SPEAKER_02So Australian coded, which is probably why I like flinch. Um, but look, he's gorgeous and seemingly harmless. I don't know. I'm just like, is it bad that I'm waiting for like some, you know, like Me Too shit to come out or something about him? He just gives me, he just gives me like straight bro energy. I think that's I think that's on me.
SPEAKER_00Well, I think that that's probably why he gets so far because people just go, oh, he's just a he's just a bit of a fool. He's a bit of a like, and he's not really gonna play, but I think his social game is actually really good. Like, did you watch him on when he played the Australian Big Big Brother?
SPEAKER_02No, he did Big Brother.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I watched the whole season. It was a celebrity Big Brother. Oh, yeah, and they had like seven well, this is when they had non not live when they rebooted it just recently, like in the last what four or five years. Yeah, then he came back on with a celebrity one. Yeah, I have one of the jenners on there and everything. Like, I can't believe you missed this.
SPEAKER_02Um yeah, I didn't fuck with any of the pre-recorded version of Big Brother, it just upset me too much.
SPEAKER_00Well, I watched it for two reasons. One, because he was on it, and I was like, oh, this would be cool. Like, I like seeing it on the screen. So I watched it, and it was it was like pretty it didn't have the same feel as live Big Brother because it felt a little bit staged at points. Um, but it was still entertaining enough to watch, and he like absolutely ran rings around them because he was just so social and he ended up winning.
SPEAKER_02Of course, he's got those teeth, it's all about his teeth. Like he's got this gorgeous smile, he's like a little kid, he gets excited, he's like which like that energy, not for me, but I Understand how you know the panties of Australia are collectively moist for Luke, and I will just leave it at that, I think. But prove me wrong, buddy. I just hope he doesn't like dominate. I just hope him and David don't bro out the season. I'm gonna but if they well I'm gonna I'm gonna need the Black Widow Brigade to sort that out.
SPEAKER_00She might get the Black. I think it's gonna be a thing. Like I think she's gonna be like, come on, Black Widow Brigade, let's take these guys out. So I think that she's gonna rally the girls.
SPEAKER_02Should we jump over to Parv?
SPEAKER_00Absolutely. Again, probably the one on the World Tribe that I'm probably most excited to see. I can't say I'm familiar with all of the World Tribe because some of them are coming from these obscure iterations of Survivor that I haven't even touched or knew existed. Um but Parv
Parvarti
SPEAKER_00obviously is such a big name when it comes to American Survivor. I haven't actually seen her play Survivor before. I haven't watched American Survivor anymore. I'm like, I would say a new Survivor because I've got you've got two days.
SPEAKER_02And I think if anything, you should watch her, what was it, fans versus faves micromanchar? The one where her the yeah, the one where her and Sari make this absolute Muppet like take off his idol that he watched.
SPEAKER_00I saw that clip. I went back and I watched that clip because I was curious to know how that happened. I read up all about that. So I know I'm very familiar with that scenario, and I thought watched all the footage on that, and that was hilarious. I honestly was gobsmacked that he did that. Like that was just so shocking to me. Wild, absolutely wild, but great TV. So she's the one I'm most excited to see from the from the world tribe because she is just a pro, and like even in her promo, she's like, Oh, these cute little baby Australian survivors think they know how to play Survivor. Like, I'm keen to see her just mess shit up.
SPEAKER_02I think we are guaranteed for that to happen. Uh, so I'm absolutely ready for Parv. Also, like queer girly living for her relationship with May Martin, winner of Taskmaster, absolute legend in the comedy space.
SPEAKER_00Like, I just she just uh and then Parv won one Taskmaster.
SPEAKER_02No, um, her partner May did, yeah, in a fantastic season of that show. Um, so look, and look, and she's been on everything now, slave to traitors, like she just makes just gold everywhere she goes.
SPEAKER_00Every reality TV show she can get her paws on, which is she's obviously good at it, she knows what she's doing, so this is all she's got a book out, she's got a pod, yeah, honey.
SPEAKER_02I from yeah, from a hustler to another, I hat off to you, girly. Um, let's go to someone we maybe don't know,
Rob from Survivor SA
SPEAKER_02um Rob from Survivor South Africa, Hottie.
SPEAKER_00Talk's a big game, he's a big guy. Give you that. And he's obviously gonna be one of the brawnier people on that tribe, which may work in his favour for that first part of the game. Um, and I'm here for I'm all here for the accent. I love a South African accent.
SPEAKER_02South African accent makes me drop to my knees. Like it's so hot. I have watched a few seasons of Survivor South Africa, but not the one that he was on. Some I watched one. Oh, it's a good show, hey. Like it's very I don't know, it's it's it's fun. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00The one thing that I found just so wild in their seasons is like they're allowed to like go through each other's bags. I think they can do that on most of them, can't they? You can't, you're not allowed to do it in Australia, but it's against the rules. So it's happened on the US one a bit. They're just like digging through his bag looking for items, like ripping their shit apart, stealing stuff from each other. I was like, whoa, this is full on. They're just like going ham. Amazing.
SPEAKER_02Well, look at throw someone's hat in the fire, then why not?
SPEAKER_00Well, unless you're what through Max's hat in the fire, which is the flop of an idea. That was just the worst TV. I was like, What are you doing? What are you just trying to call drama? And then it was just no drama, and then out of himself at the end, he's like, Ha, I did it.
SPEAKER_02And everyone's like, Okay, you could just see the producers there and be like, You should do a thing. Um, yeah, uh, but yeah, Rob, big sexy man. Uh, obviously, if he gets to a merge with a Dave and a Luke, I feel like there's gonna be some browage happening, yeah, which I don't want to have happen, but it could be fun to see that fail. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. So I think he's he's won, obviously. So he he definitely knows what he's doing. So I'm interested to see uh how that pans out for him.
SPEAKER_02I heard he did win, however, the people he played with on his season were allegedly absolute idiots.
SPEAKER_00Oh, okay. So he was the king of the idiots.
SPEAKER_02So now he's in this bunch, which is like we shall see.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I guess we'll have to wait and see then.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Uh let's
Lisa our Kiwi Queen
SPEAKER_02talk about Lisa. She's from uh New Zealand. Which so they only had two seasons of that show and then they canned it. So interesting, she's back, but makes sense because it's like I don't know, an easy fill.
SPEAKER_00Well, they want to get, you know, different world contestants, and they had to obviously find the different iterations around the world. And New Zealand's like one of our family, essentially. So it makes sense to look there. And given that she won, I mean, I guess that makes sense.
SPEAKER_02So she looks like a smiling assassin. Like her photo is her, like, hey, she looks like a lovely lady, and then apparently I didn't watch her season, but apparently she just like absolutely like slayed.
SPEAKER_00Well, I think she's like big survivor nerd, so I think she knows she knows the game, she knows the numbers, she's probably seen every season of it. So I think she's very switched on, and I think that's probably gonna help her crunch the numbers, so to speak, and help get the the strategy side of things on her. Um, but potentially, and I'm only saying this is passing a judgment from looking at a photo and having seen none of her season, may not be a particularly physical threat, so could get booted early in that sense.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_00But if I think I think I feel like she's smart enough to navigate around that, is what I'm thinking.
SPEAKER_02I think she's got the brain. I'm Kane. All honestly, there is not one dud on this whole cast. Like, all of them, I'm like, there's something that I'm intrigued about, which is perfect for a short season.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I hope they don't do too much channel 10ing with the editing, if you know what I'm trying to say. Like, you know, they usually just focus on like two people.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I feel like within the You want to get a good range of yeah, because there's so many big names.
SPEAKER_00Uh I don't know. I feel like I feel like it's gonna happen. I feel like they're gonna some people are not gonna get great airtime.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And um and I think like because we're probably maybe maybe this is only my perception, but because we're so familiar with the Australian contestants, I feel like they're maybe gonna more focus on their because they want they wanna want us as Australian viewers to be like, yeah, Australia has to beat the world.
SPEAKER_02And they're totally you're so right. I'm already nervous about this. I feel like it's gonna be very nationalism coded, and it's gonna be like Aussie, Aussie, Aussie. Like the trailers are already like, watch out, Aussie survivors, take on the world. It's like, oh my god, kill me. Like, but sure, we love it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so I'm hoping that we get a good mix of seeing these contestants that we've never seen before.
SPEAKER_02Well, from one winner to another winner, a two-time winner,
Tony
SPEAKER_02Tony.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, tell me how you feel about Tony. Very unfamiliar with Tony's game, but I have heard big things. Um, so I think the fact that he's already a two-time winner is gonna be a very hard target to shake. So I think a lot of the other contestants are gonna be like, well, he's an easy boot, let's just get him out because uh he he's won twice, he doesn't need to win again. Like if you look at the returning when they had that um I think it was all stars, where they had uh the winners come back, they had Jericho come back, they had Shane Gould come back, they were the first two people gone. Everyone was like, No, you are back, you're not winning again, you can you can get lost.
SPEAKER_02But not only did he win twice, the second win was on a season called Winners at War, which was all winners, and the prize was two million dollars. So he's actually won three million dollars playing this game total. So that's a bigger threat, I think. Also, yeah, it's a big threat. Not as much as David, yeah, not exactly, but nobody knows how funny.
SPEAKER_00He's probably gonna be like, I won three million, I want three million, and David's gonna be there being like how at the end of his season, he's gonna be sitting on tribal going, by the way, everyone guys, I won six million.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. Oh my god, but yeah, I think look, Tony, no one's gonna be surprised at how I feel about Tony. It's it's bro, but at least it's kind of this like New Jersey policeman trope, which I can kind of fuck with because it's like not from my world. So it's he's he's like a caricature.
SPEAKER_00Absolutely.
SPEAKER_02Um, he's pretty much like one line from being like, I'm walking here. Like he's very that it's tony, it's a big tony. So I I like that he brings that kind of campery to it, and he gets really, you know, he's got that like Italian-American thing where he gets quite like heated and animated, so he makes good TV in that sense.
SPEAKER_00I think he's gonna make great TV. So I'm I'm very excited to see how he plays for sure.
SPEAKER_02Shoot, we talk about
Tommi
SPEAKER_02Tommy from uh Finnish Survivor, which has a fabulous name that I'm not gonna pronounce, uh, but we'll just call it Survivor Finland. Uh, he's a radio host in Finland. So apparently they cast like they cast celebs on their version. Right. So he's not coming in as a full plan.
SPEAKER_00He's like, that I'm all here for. I cannot wait to hear him talking on the screens all the time. And he he seems like a part of that Larrican group. Like from the promos that I've seen, he seems like that fun loving guy who wants to just have a bit of fun and muck around, but kind of knows the game a bit as well. So I think I'm gonna put him in the same category as a Luke. Like he's a he's a runner-up in Finland. I don't know what how tight their competition is, but I guess getting runner-up is if it was a celeb season.
SPEAKER_02I feel like it doesn't really matter where you place on those a bit, yeah, you know. Yeah, but hey, I low-key think he's hot as fuck. Like I love a ginge, his haircut is very Australian coded, so I feel like he'll be welcomed. If you rock up on the set with a mullet, like yeah, you're gonna be instantly accepted by the Australian tribe. Um, he looks like a fun time.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he looks like a fun time. I think he's gonna make good TV, and I think he's just gonna like, yeah, I think be a good social player. He's gonna like latch himself onto some really good yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02He's either a fun time or an incel, but we'll find out because he does look like he has like weapons in a bunker, like ready to go.
SPEAKER_00He's ready for uh the world to to die, and he's a he's a prepper. Do you think he's a prepper? He just has it's I think it's the like wolf t-shirt. The giant wolf shirt, yeah.
SPEAKER_02It's like okay, that feels a little bit aggressive to me. Well, he's obviously wanting to uh put his statement on the the game very quickly, but they do love like metal in Finland, so maybe it's just like because it looks like a metal band. Oh you know, so it's kind of just giving that. Yeah, um, I hope he has sunscreen, is all I'm gonna say.
SPEAKER_00He will fry otherwise finished skin.
SPEAKER_02Oh, it's an Australian production. They will be supplying sunscreen, I'm sure. It'd be like in the contract. Okay, who we got next?
Kass from Quebec
SPEAKER_02We got Cassandre from uh Survivor Quebec, which I did not know was a thing.
SPEAKER_00I didn't know it was very specific to just Quebec and not just like all of Canada, but like all because the Canadians can go on the American one, is that right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, they can now. I think in Canada they're very good, they're very like fair with their uh television production. Like if they make a show in English, they usually make a French-speaking version of the same show as well, which I think is kind of cool.
SPEAKER_00My brother lives in in Quebec, so there you go. I've been there a bunch of times. So I'm I'm excited to see what this brings. Because obviously, like obviously, these world players are not only coming from a different iteration of survival, but like different cultures. So, like social, like their social game is gonna be different to how we see social game in Australia. So, like things like that, I'm excited to see how an international player plays, because if they're playing with people from their own country, it might be very different to how they're playing with people from all different cultures and backgrounds. So, yeah, I'm interested to see how uh a French-speaking Canadian is gonna tackle this. She seems like a fun time, she's like, seems like she knows what she's talking about. She's like, yeah, seems like she's gonna make good TV.
SPEAKER_02She has girly written all over her, she's so hot, and I can see her fitting in with Sean and Clave. And I just can't wait for the girlinas to girl out. So I hope she like makes it.
SPEAKER_00I think that they're gonna make the girl brigade. I think it's gonna come. It's like you can just see from the cast, it's just naturally gonna naturally gonna form, surely.
SPEAKER_02Surely, and also they haven't got long, so like get those boys out like straight away, in my opinion. Yeah, but imagine it's all girl top like 10. I would die.
SPEAKER_00That would be hilarious. Oh my god. Um probably all girl and George. He'll just wiggle his way into that group.
SPEAKER_02So there's one person we have not discussed yet, and it's the iconic
Cirie
SPEAKER_02Sari, who is just like I would say she's probably like the biggest star on this whole cast, only because not only is she so beloved for being an iconic survivor player, but you know, she won um The Traders US and was great on that. She's been on Big Brother, she's just kind of like on TV a lot.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. I again am not familiar with all of the American iterations of Survivor and haven't seen her play Survivor before, but obviously know her name, seen her around a lot. So this is again another player that I'm very excited to see how she's gonna go in this uh Australia vs. the world iteration. I think she's going to yeah, play a very good social game, and I think people she'll she'll probably fly. I mean, as big as her name is, she's obviously up against plenty of other big names. So I think she's gonna have the ability to go, oh no, that person's a way bigger threat than me, and just kind of like float under the radar a little bit, which I think will work to her advantage.
SPEAKER_02Oh, totally, and like yes, she's won like shows before, but she hasn't won Survivor. So I think she's the one that's most wanting that to happen. Yeah, and her whole strategy, like the first time she played, was like, I'm just three from the couch. Like, yes, she's like, you know, when they when they're talking to when Jeff's talking to you, like, hey, you at home, you can do survivor. Like, he was talking to me, like I'm just a regular lady, and that worked in her favour because she just disarms people with her like realness. Yes, so she kind of can't do that anymore because she's like a superstar, but she still has that charm of Siri from the Couch. So uh yeah, I think she's got a good if she can make it to the final tribal, I like my money would be on her to take it just because everyone on the cast knows she hasn't won yet, but like is very deserved to I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so I'm I'm exit I'm excited to see how she plays. So it's gonna be it's gonna be a wild season, I think.
SPEAKER_02Should
Hopes and Predictions
SPEAKER_02we make some predictions?
SPEAKER_00Yes, please. I would hope you would.
SPEAKER_02Who do you why don't we do like who we want to win and who we think will win? Oh, okay. Have you thought about this? Are you gonna go first? I haven't thought about it, but now I okay, I think my want no okay, I think my will is Suri. Yeah, and my want is Kirby. I just really vibe with Kirby and I just would love that for her. And I think the rest of them have had their moment, you know?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, okay. I can actually agree with you. I was gonna say my want maybe like a Shawnee. Just because she's so fun and I feel like she would be a great winner. But at the same time, now that you've said that, maybe maybe you're right, maybe a Kirby. I feel like yeah, that she's gonna be.
SPEAKER_02Oh look, I wouldn't be mad with Sean.
SPEAKER_00Oh no, I wouldn't be mad with Sean either. But maybe I'm gonna have to agree with you on that one. The who I think's gonna win, like, I think because this season is gonna be so many big names, big names are gonna get like every week a big name is gonna be going. That's the problem. And I think the biggest names are probably gonna get booted first, which is gonna be really sad for us. So I think people like George and David, even though they're great players, they're just gonna go so quick, and even Parv and like I'm just concerned that those players that I really want to see play are gonna get kicked so quickly. If Sunday night, like friggin' George goes on, like well.
SPEAKER_02Well, I think the Aussie tribe has stronger people on it physically, so I think that they could be winning the challenges. Uh yeah, and I also think production are gonna want the story of Australia winning first, but maybe that you know, not that I'm suggesting that they can determine the outcome of the challenges, but I'm just saying that, you know, like I think I don't know. I think that that's what's gonna happen. And I feel like the Americans have this unfair advantage on the world tribe to band together to pick off the non-Americans, yeah, because none of those other people have a friend, like there's not two Kiwis, there's not two Finnish people. So Lisa, Tommy, and Cassandra I think have a huge disadvantage until that is if they can make merge, and then I think they have a huge advantage because they can kind of slip through the cracks.
SPEAKER_00Yes, yeah, I agree. And I think that the the thing that I think will happen is all the big names are gonna get like skimmed off the top, and all the people at the bottom are gonna get carried through as goats. And not that I think there's many goats in this season, maybe one or two that might just sort of like that that probably know Survivor well, but because they're not a big name at all, they're just gonna kind of get washed away in the crowd, I think. Like these big player survivors are gonna want to make good TV, they're gonna want to play well, so they're gonna be doing big flashy things, they're gonna be saying outrageous things, and these like newer survivor players or people that haven't played in a long time are kind of just gonna like fade into the background, even though they're trying. Um, and I think are probably just gonna get carried through as goats. So I don't think they're gonna win. So I think it's gonna be one of these mid mid-range people that's gonna be left behind at the end, yeah, who's gonna be like, I actually did play a decent game, maybe not the most like outlandish and showy game, but for someone like uh Janine or a Kirby, yeah, or maybe like a dark horse, like you said, like a Cassandra or someone like that.
SPEAKER_02Janine could do it.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that would also be a massive like float in the middle, pick off the big ones, and keep enough big ones in front of them until they get to the end and then kick them out and then win. So I think it's gonna be a mid-range uh like person this season.
SPEAKER_02True, because the the big names and the unknowns will stick out, but those mid-people, they're gonna be I think they're gonna kind of like fruit in in the middle. Yeah. Oh my god, I'm so fucking excited for this.
SPEAKER_00I'm so keen.
SPEAKER_02So I've even got like, yeah, people are like, where are we watching this? What's going on? Like it's it's event.
SPEAKER_00Where's the watch party? Are you doing a watch party?
SPEAKER_02Um, I'm gonna have a couple people over on Sunday to kick it off, and then I have been invited to a little uh party from some of the cast on Monday, so that should be fun. So I'll report back on that. Cast of this season? Yeah, yeah. So that should be fun. And then I don't know. I do have so I'm obviously gonna be recapping this season. I've got some really fun ex contestants lined up as guests, so you'll have to stay tuned. We're gonna find uh any of those. No, I don't want to jinx it. There's still time for them to cancel, so I feel like it's a podcasting rule 101. It's you never pre-announce a guest, but something fun is coming. Um, I'm also gonna be recapping the Real Housewives of London, uh, which is about to start. But that'll be over on my Patreon feed, so you'll have to subscribe to hear those. Yeah, because inflation's a bitch.
SPEAKER_00You gotta like shiny, you gotta get paid.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I have to get paid at some point. Yeah, uh, but Josh, thank you so much for joining me to go through this cast. Thank you so much for having me. Oh, pleasure. You have to come back on soon and talk to me about something else. Or at postseason, we could check back in.
SPEAKER_00Oh, we'll love that. You can see where our how where our predictions landed.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, true. Yeah, knowing us like probably so far. Sere first out. Like, I don't know. Oh goodness. Oh George, we Would honestly be kind of cunt. I just don't think it will happen.
SPEAKER_00It's not gonna be pretty boss.
SPEAKER_02You can't be that divisive. Because at the end of the day, like people have to kind of like I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I have to vote for you in the end.
SPEAKER_02I have to vote for you in the end, and I just or maybe these are the people to do it. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Well, that's the thing. They're they're like game respect, game. These people are like, wow, you were an absolute jerk, but like actually we respect that. So you know, you're in.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, cute. Um, where can our listeners find you online if they want to talk?
SPEAKER_00Instagram, Joshua I Taylor. You can follow me on Instagram. I'm just posting mostly like life stuff and travel stuff, but sometimes there's Lego stuff. I post Lego stuff and we do Lego jobs. I still do a bit of work with uh my old contestant mate Trent. We uh do do commissions for Lego and fun stuff like that. So we post a bit on there. We have our own uh a separate page there as well for Trent and Josh if you're wanting to follow all Lego related things. But yeah, it's people people can find me on Instagram, it's the best place.
SPEAKER_02I was following your recent trip to Japan. Looked very fun.
SPEAKER_00Oh, I was so boss. I love Japan so much. I'm keen to go back. It's my third trip. I'm doing it again.
SPEAKER_02Amazing. Did you do any Lego stuff over there?
SPEAKER_00I went to Legoland in Japan, that was pretty awesome. It was very much a kids theme and then me.
SPEAKER_02Yes, that's walk around. We took our son to the one at Chadston, and yeah, I was like, oh okay. We I yes, never have I more felt like a dad than in that moment.
SPEAKER_00But this was like a theme park, so it's much bigger, but it's very geared towards kids. It's not just like the Discovery Center at Chadston, it's like a full theme park that had rides. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Did you go to the Super Mario world?
SPEAKER_00I went last year. Last year, it was pretty awesome. I went to Disneyland this this year, but I didn't couldn't afford both.
SPEAKER_02C or regular?
SPEAKER_00Both.
SPEAKER_02Oh, C and L that's dedication.
SPEAKER_00I did four theme parks in the space of four hours and I walked a hundred kilometers. In in I checked my like tracking for a week. It's seven days. I walk a hundred kilometers.
SPEAKER_02I'm depressed, I'm speechless. I like C the most because you can have beer. They have draft beer at Disney C and you can walk around with it. It's heaven.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. Japan is great. Highly recommend anyone that's never been there.
SPEAKER_02We've also got um, speaking of Japan, The Boyfriend season two, supposed supposedly coming out in a minute now. Did you fuck with that?
SPEAKER_00I saw the first season. Yeah, I thought it was pretty interesting, and um yeah, I've I've I heard rumors that the second one's coming soon.
SPEAKER_02So well, they keep teasing it, and now the cast are like putting out like singles and they're doing blogs and photo shoots, and I'm just like, ah, it's it's wild. Die and Sean, like who would have thought?
SPEAKER_00I honestly didn't follow them beyond the show, so I have no idea what's happening with them now.
SPEAKER_02But do yourself a favor, go and look like it's the thirst is real.
SPEAKER_01I'll have to check it out.
SPEAKER_02And you just know that behind the camera they are hating each other. But now it is a now it is like a business venture.
SPEAKER_00It made great TV, I'll tell you that. Like it was so oh man, it was such a hard thing to watch, but it was so good.
SPEAKER_02Oh, well, I'll be covering that, so maybe you can come back and talk to me about that.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, well, if and when it starts. If and if if it ever starts, I'll make sure I have to keep up with the episodes then.
SPEAKER_02It's done. All right, doll. Thanks again. I'll see you soon. Thank you. See ya.
SPEAKER_00Bye.
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