Australian Survivor - Redemption Week 5 (w/ Karin Gunatilake)

KAOS KARIN joins Sam on the couch for a dose of Aussie Survivor goodness! We bid farewell to our comrade Mark this week, but cheer up, there’s plenty of fun to be had. Caleb is a noisy boy, Blanche’s bolt on’s are bouncing and the returnees are in trouble! That and some MAFS, and Taylor Frankie Paul drama.

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This podcast was produced on the land of the Wurundjeri people of the Koolin Nation.

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Someone who is such a connoisseur of reality television content is hideous.

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Hi. Oh, yes, phone's off. Oh, hold on. One second. Open the open the beverage. Yeah, so too many things going on. Cheers! It's the weekend pretty much.

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Yeah. I mean, I'm off work, so.

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Who's gonna stop ya?

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Yeah, no one's gonna call me in.

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Exactly.

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Hey Gondol. We're going good. Good to go. Yeah. It's like new year, new me. I have a new job. Well, I mean, still a doctor. Yeah. But like less stressed.

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Less stressful. And you're not regional anymore?

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No, I'm not regional.

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Well done.

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I know.

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I felt through the trenches.

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Yeah, guys.

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Of Gippsland. You're in Gippsland. I was in Gipps.

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Gippsland is not like a bad area. It's really It's not. It's not. It's a bad rant.

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Yeah.

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But like it's got some like for Gippsland. It had a lot of varied international cuisine. Oh. They had Indian, Korean, Sri Lankan.

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There's Sri Lankan food in Gipson. There's one Sri Lanka restaurant.

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There's one Sri Lankan restaurant.

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There's a Mexican place. That one in Turalgan. What Zombrero? No. Maybe it's not there anymore. Oh. Oh yes, no, there is no one. Yeah, is that still there? Yes, that's still there. I didn't try it, but I just remember saying it.

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Um the guy there is great. He makes a brilliant spicy margarita. He did not make spicy margaritas until we got there. And then we forced him.

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He was like, What? What's this spicy margarita? That's crazy.

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So I should get it out of the can. And I'm like, well, John, I'm gonna need you to find some chilies out back and put it in there.

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I find the food in regional Australia is like all of the food on Survivor as rewards. Yeah. It's like you'll eat it because it's all there is, but it like looks a bit shit.

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It's like it's I it's like an idea of food. Like it's food that has aspirations in food. Um no, I'm not gonna shit on Tarragon. I've had to live there for like six months at a stretch twice. Um I'm glad I'm not sure.

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Well, you're you're through it. Yeah. Well done.

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Yeah.

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Um, we have so much to talk about this week. Oh my god. Not so much in the Survivor reverse. I mean, we do. It was a great week of survivor. Great week. We loved it. However, unfortunately eclipsed by a lot of other happenings in the world of pop culture.

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Oh my god.

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Um, should we start with Chapel Roan? What the fuck?

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Yeah. Apparently she like look, I am not fond of kids. No, no, neither Miss Chapel Roan, apparently.

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But I st but I love her just getting totally dragged.

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Completely obliterated. And then she did like this half-assed apology about having personal space.

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No, she had to like say that she she did remind everyone she doesn't hate kids, which I was like, Okay, wow groundbreaking revelation.

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It's really I'm like, it's really good to know that you don't hate kids. But it just just but apparently like the child in question is like the child of like a of Jude Law.

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Yeah, Jude Law's biological child whose stepdad is like one of the hottest like Brazilians.

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I've I knew yeah, I knew there was some sort of like soccer connection and some like Hollywood connection.

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This is a privileged child.

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I know, but it's also like not the child you want. Like, this is the child you're like, yeah, okay. The child. The child. I don't even know what the child's called.

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Nothing like I just this is the shit I'd live for. Like just people being disgraced for like alleged things that are just kind of whatever.

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But like, this is the thing. This is like me having to go into the city. I only come into the city now to talk to you because the city has two of the things that I like despise the most. One is children and two slow walkers.

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The slow walking like epidemic is among us. Rampant.

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And the fast walkers in the city are the kids. And I don't like it.

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Yeah, and then the students are kind of a bit rat baggy. Yeah. Yeah. Look.

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Yeah.

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It is what it is.

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Like, I I know I first of all I had to do a hook turn. Second, I nearly hook out a said student nose deep in their phone.

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Such drama just together here. I know.

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Chapel Rowan, I kind of get you.

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Yeah, she's she'll be fine.

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She'll be fine.

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Uh the other thing is Taylor Frankie Paul.

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Oh.

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Days before her debut as The Bachelor.

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She uh TMZ outer.

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I understand that it was the ex or the Dakota. Dakota. Who like leaked it, right?

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Yeah.

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Do we know that or is that just what everyone thinks?

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I think we're we think it's Dakota because all signs point to Dakota. Well, Dakota's the only one that has access to said footage.

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And also, if you've seen the any of the show, you know how fucking toxic their relationship is.

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But the thing is, like, what's is it ABC? No. Which which knows? Yeah, I think so. It's ABC. ABC know that uh, you know, one renowned Taylor Frankie Paul hasn't been known to throw a punch.

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So not our ABC, the American ABC. Imagine if Taylor Frankie Paul was on the Australian broadcasting screen.

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Were they? Yeah. Because I I'd had it locked down. I'm like, this is great. I get to watch this train wreck concurrently with um with Maths after the dinner party and Survivor 50.

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Survivor 50. All of the great things on scene.

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And new season of Real Housewives, the Real of Lives of Mormon Wives is out as well.

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I haven't even started that yet because I'm overwhelmed with Maths and Survivor and everything that's going on, but you better believe I will be tucking into that and we will do an episode on season four. Four of that, they pumped that shit out way too quick. Like, give us a minute to grieve.

SPEAKER_03 5:54

I think it's because there's so much content. Like we went through like wiki love it, we don't like them.

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The cameras just start rolling and they just they just go. They swear.

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They just start.

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Yeah. They're making their housewives look boring, I've got to say. Like because they they understand the assignment a little too well.

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I think it's because it's like the mega church of um reality TV. They just know how to make money, and I'm really for it.

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Uh and then Maths is just it's MAFs thing. Look, I'm not gonna lie, I'm I'm ready for it to wrap up at this point. I'm loving it, but I am ready for the finish line.

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It's it's like we know that it's just for the drama because no airtime has been given to um what's his face? Flip and um, oh my god.

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Oh, Philip and Stella.

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Yeah, yeah. Like no one cares.

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And I'm pretty sure like their vasectomy moment for one second, and now it's just like I'm I'm sure I don't think their relationship is healthy either.

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None of this is, but we've got zero airtime on them because they're the least what confrontational and problematic.

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And then Alyssa and David are probably the second least. But then now they're dropping footage. Do you ever watch the after show? No, it's actually fucking good. They dropped all this footage of her at the retreat being a monster with her Jammae voice like I can't sleep in this room, there's no curtains. Like losing it, and he's just he looks at the camera like fucking someone fucking sends me.

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She was all good about moving, and then she went into a downward spiral, and she's like, I have a cat.

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She's like, Adelaide is kind of the best place ever. I don't know if you guys know this about Adelaide.

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Oh, everyone.

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Like, quit it.

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Everyone's hopping on about Adelaide. Beck, I live in one of the most affluent suburbs in my three million dollar house. It's great. Great. You live in Adelaide.

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I've honestly start production on like a real housewives of Adelaide immediately. This is the people that are living there. Oh, we're missing out. I need to know.

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Did you watch um Yummy Mummies back in the day?

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No, I think I feel like we've had this exact conversation.

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Because one of the yummy mummies is from Adelaide. That's right. And oh Diva. Yeah. Oh my god. She she was obsessed with Versace and she dressed her kid in like head-to-toe Versace, and then she had her um what's the thing, baby moon or whatever?

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Yeah, like a baby shower.

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Yeah, at the Versace Palace in like the Gold Coast.

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Gold Coast, yeah, yeah. RIP. That's now well it's still there, but it's just like non-Versace affiliated. Oh my god.

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I thought that was the most gauche thing ever. Go off.

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Incredible. Janet Roach. Me and my like apartment in there.

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What's it called? Thrifted Adidas. So gauche. Versace.

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Uh are you watching 50?

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Yes.

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I'm one app behind.

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Um, so no, so am I.

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So I saw Mr. White depart. Soz for the squirrel.

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Oh my god. That that was uh Christian is like cooking up a storm. But was what was like the thing is, Christian was cooking up this absolute blind side on Light Quiet, but all we got was 30 minutes of what's his name? Zach Brown? No.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

Oh my god. Can we just so firstly, so I don't care if you are so famous or whatever, what are you doing on the fucking show? No. Secondly, I never heard of this man before in my life.

SPEAKER_03 9:13

Wait, you don't know chicken fried?

SPEAKER_01 9:14

No, I'm not I'm not a country music girly. Sorry. I mean I forget how big it is. And then things like this happened, and I'm like, ah, that's right. People love country music. You are you're into country music?

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No, I love that for you.

SPEAKER_01 9:28

I just I I had no idea that people who this was. And the way they're all going on about it and crying over him, and and also him just like I've caught these fish. You did not fucking catch those fish.

SPEAKER_03 9:38

He had a military grade spear. Like, where did you get this from? And then just and it was like tuna, the size, I don't know, like my entire body. It was Joey not you did not spearfish that.

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I will say, good looking man. I was I was here for the the beard and the tats of it all.

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I'm sure there's like players on 50 that have had less confessional than him.

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Absolutely.

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Like what?

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Yeah.

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Oh my god, no.

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He got a full app. And then the irony of that, him getting all that airtime, but then Billy Eilish is nowhere to be seen or heard, but just her name is just used every episode.

SPEAKER_03 10:17

Yeah, because every like I don't know, at every five minutes someone has to say Billie Eilish boomerang idol. Maybe there's some sort of like um royalties on it where like if you use my name, you have to mention it at least 20 billion times because I've heard it.

SPEAKER_01 10:30

Well, if there was, you'd think she would be present in the chat. Yeah, but she is nowhere to be seen.

SPEAKER_03 10:36

So like, where did they get Billie Eilish from?

SPEAKER_01 10:39

I don't know. I was expecting Sia at some point to come, but I feel like she moved on from Survivor sometime. Is she a big survivor then? Are you joking? She used to give money to the person she liked the most. Yeah. I didn't know. If you were on there and you were like a vegan and you like didn't eat the chickens, she would give you a million dollars and she'd be like, There you go. Yeah, you know that. I know that she was on it once at like a reunion or something. This is a while ago. This was like, yeah, in the sort of heyday. And then I think even she's moved on. She's even like, I don't fucking know.

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Like, I I didn't know she I didn't know, I don't know what Sia looks like.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

No, no one does. Well, we kind of do. We kind of do. She used to have a face. I think she's actually quite gorgeous.

SPEAKER_03 11:16

Okay. I'm no, no, no, no. I'm confusing Sia now with Florence Welch. Oh, yeah, yeah. Both sort of like ethereal women.

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Ethereal goddess. Yes.

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Yeah, I didn't know she was a survivor fan.

SPEAKER_01 11:27

50's 50ing. I'm like, I'm not gonna bang on about it. Every if you listen to this pod, you know it's not for me. And Jeff is just like Satan. So cringe. Yeah.

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He did it again.

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The rap.

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Yeah.

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I was like, oh my god.

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So this is my hot take. Everyone keeps harping on it. So this is like this deep contrast. Everyone harps on about Dave Janay, and they're like, the host is like the what's it called? The soul of the show. Blood of the shield.

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People said that Dave Janay was gonna like survival.

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I'm gonna like Twitter en masse was like, I'm going to, I'm gonna watch it. I'm never watching again. I'm never watching again. Okay, don't watch it.

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And we all came crawling back.

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We all came crawling back. And now it's a wet t-shirt contest. It's a wet t-shirt contest. And I want more wet t-shirt content of Dave.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

But sometimes it's from sweat. Yeah. And sometimes it is from the elements. Moisture.

SPEAKER_03 12:17

Yeah. And I should think I I think there should be someone that reads the weather forecast and goes, Dave, Dave, love, it's gonna rain.

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Get out. Start the challenge is starting early. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:29

I need you to do a few bicep curls, really get a pump on going, and I need you to wear a white shirt.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

He's really lent in now. There's been a lot of the jokes that I need.

SPEAKER_03 12:39

Yep. And you can tell when he's having a good time, because he goes from like serious mode, which we don't like to go just like a big sort of grin on his face. He's like, Yeah, he's having fun now.

SPEAKER_01 12:47

I reckon the first few weeks he was a bit like, uh I'm a host. What am I doing now? I'm the host. I don't want to like piss on JLP's grave. But then now he's like, fuck yeah, I'm gonna.

SPEAKER_03 12:56

And that's great. And like when everyone goes, Oh, oh, we need to change, we don't need to change at all. US Survivor is testament to the fact that, you know, um Jeffrey, who is also a producer, mind you, is now a finger in every single part. He's become too much. Get rid of him.

SPEAKER_01 13:15

Yeah, so I was mate. Get him off. Um, let's get into Aussie Sonama this week.

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Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 13:22

Started with episode 13. Yeah. Uh Snake the Game was the name of that episode. And we're at Bowen.

SPEAKER_03 13:30

Snake the Game or Shake the Game?

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Snake, I thought. It was. Or was it Shake the Game? Shake the Game. Oh, was it?

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I don't know.

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I think it was Snake.

SPEAKER_03 13:37

No, it's because um, what's it called? Oh, I could be wrong as well. Just on one joke, fact it. Someone writing. No, because like um Caleb is like, I really want to shake the game.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

Oh, it's gotta be that then. And I've I've written down Snake, which is actually adorable. Because in my mind I was like, where was the slightest? I'm thinking about our favourite snake oil salesman.

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Pickles out for Polly.

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Yeah, biggles titles. Oh you're so right, it's Shake the Game. Glad we got that sorted out.

SPEAKER_03 14:08

No, I only remember it because all of Caleb's confessionals are at like 50,000 decibels.

SPEAKER_01 14:14

I know. Can we just real quick? So what's going on? They what are they trying to achieve with this edit of Caleb? They they want us to love him? Because I'm sorry, it's not a good one. You don't love him. I don't. The decibels is too much for me.

SPEAKER_03 14:29

Like he does give uh yeah, I don't know, just like loud, unsupervised child sometimes.

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He was unsupervised child, which was like annoying me a lot up and down, and then this week all of a sudden they're just like he's the star of the show, and I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

SPEAKER_03 14:45

Because so like um, moment of silence for Mark Warner, dearly departed.

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Baby girl.

SPEAKER_03 14:51

I know. He's now out of the game. So Mark was Mark was sucking up a lot of air.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

He was, he was get it, D.

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Yeah.

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Look, I can deal with chaos, Caleb. I'm sure I will eventually come around.

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My favorite part was him spelling chaos with a K.

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I'm like, but your name starts with a C, Doc.

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And I'm like, what where did that come from? Anyway, he can't spell, but and but he did speak quite eloquently during that tribal.

SPEAKER_01 15:21

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:22

Yeah, it can turn it on when he needs, when he's not going, This is the best day of my life. Which so which which is I think his character. And I think if you're gonna go on a show, you do lose a part of yourself and you do owe it to yourself to just be as authentic and annoying and loud as you are.

SPEAKER_01 15:38

He's a cartoon character. Yeah. And that's great. It's actually delivering exactly what we come to this program for.

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And I feel like we haven't had a Caleb on Aussie Survivor.

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If we're being What was his name, the Joker? Oh Geordie.

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Geordie. No, Geordie was much quieter.

SPEAKER_01 15:59

Yes, but like similar little like, oh, I'm a little rat. But like a little bit, but you're right, we haven't had like a full.

SPEAKER_03 16:06

Yeah, so my introduction to Caleb was his YouTube channel.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

Okay, I've heard about this. It's kind of jackassy. Yeah, very jackassy.

SPEAKER_03 16:14

So my favorite video of Caleb, this was this told me everything I needed to know about this man. He gets this python or a very large snake, and he talks about how he he's a lot of tattoos, but he really wants a python tattoo. And how he does this, he gets said snake to bite him and then pours ink all over his arm.

SPEAKER_02 16:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 16:32

Yep, and then I met this man and then he showed me said tattoo, and I went, none of mine have been through those means.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

But so you can actually do that, get a snake to bite you and then pouring into it. Did it look shit?

SPEAKER_03 16:44

It just looks like a bunch of dots. I mean, you can get Frida to bite you.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

Good story though. Oh, but she would never she would just lick me so much. I reckon my cat would bite me.

SPEAKER_03 16:53

But I thought that was pretty like I have not seen anything like you. So maybe this is the turning point where Caleb matures because his edit went from about here.

SPEAKER_01 17:05

Yeah, to like here, yeah, yeah. So which is fun, keeping on San Toes. Uh so episode 10. You know, they walk in to this reward challenge, but we knew it was coming. Drop your bloody buffs. And they swirl their buffs in the air like insane people. Uh Sally, she's keen for this merge. She's very happy to make some new friends.

SPEAKER_03 17:32

She's done.

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And Mark gives us TV magic by giving us a little cry.

SPEAKER_03 17:37

I well, and it was kind of cute because both like Simon like welled up as well, because you know, this is his second merge.

SPEAKER_02 17:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:44

Um so you know, he big proud moment for him. And then Mark, in contrast, um, not in contrast, also like equivalent as well, went. I'm gonna, it's it's really sad that I had to vote all these people out. And you guys are all great too. In fact, I'm gonna really be sad when I vote all of you out. Um, I also voted at faith. Anyone noticed that I voted at faith? That was me.

SPEAKER_02 18:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:06

Which is and which is, you know, and it's hard. I think in support, I've listened to all of Mark's exit interviews all.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

Oh, have you? Great. You can uh give me uh an A-generated summary.

SPEAKER_03 18:17

Oh, I will.

SPEAKER_01 18:17

I will I just watched the Jury's Out.

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Jury's out.

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Shout out to Friend of the Pod, Nick Adanza.

SPEAKER_03 18:23

Nick Adanza and Shawnee Bogan. Sean. Oh.

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And can we just say Jury's Out is incredible?

SPEAKER_03 18:27

It's so good.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

So good. They really went there. I was like, oh yeah, it'll be whatever. But the interrogation. Yeah, she got the tea out. It was good. But yeah, so how's Mark feeling? Mark's feeling good.

SPEAKER_03 18:40

I think he like he his own words, these are not mine. He was a big oxygen oxygen thief on the show. He was taking up a lot of room. Um, and I, you know, texted him like an hour ago, and I was like, I'm so tired of seeing your fat head on my screen all the time. Um, he's happy with his game. Yeah, it's super different to how he played before. Yeah. Um Old Mate did name drop me a few times, and so I'm very grateful.

SPEAKER_01 19:06

Stunned.

SPEAKER_03 19:06

But no, this was um this this is a throwback to when Mark, in his sort of like earnest, vulnerable state, came to me once as a friend and went, Hey, what did you um think of my Titans V Rebels game? And because I'm about as delicate as a sledgehammer, um, I went, which is why we're friends. I know, thanks. Um, and I went, Oh look, like game was great, you know, you really hustled a bit slow to the draw a few times, but you were kind of boring. And then he just looked at me and I'm like, Yeah, I found you kind of boring, and I really didn't like you the first time you played. And then he just looked at me. And then I feel like the last 15 episodes have have just been him giving me the finger, going, You entertained now, bitch.

SPEAKER_01 19:49

Yeah. Um yeah, proven wrong.

SPEAKER_03 19:52

Um Mark won our time entertained. Did Mark win a car?

SPEAKER_01 19:56

Yes, okay, cool. Because Cameron, so this is now we learn they merge and then straightaway boom, car challenge.

SPEAKER_03 20:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 20:02

And Cameron's like, oh, it's like this, and then yeah, and I was like, oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_03 20:10

Mark won um Mark won some sort of four-wheel drive contraption. Yeah, we would not a Mahindra something.

SPEAKER_01 20:20

Yeah. So they do a wobbly barrel thing and Sally wins.

SPEAKER_03 20:24

Snaps for Sally.

SPEAKER_01 20:25

Do you believe in the curse of the car?

SPEAKER_03 20:28

Oh. Not really.

SPEAKER_01 20:31

No.

SPEAKER_03 20:32

No, I don't think so. I think it's just like I think it's one of those. There's so many survivor curses. It's all sort of correlation more than causation. And you don't know it. You don't go win a brand new car and go, oh gosh, darn it, there goes my shot at a million dollars. Oh, damn.

SPEAKER_01 20:47

True.

SPEAKER_03 20:48

So I'm rooting for Sal. Sal's not getting Sal's great. Um she's got a really good story. Like she's gonna, she would be a very good winner.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:59

Like there's so much heart and soul around Sal. Um, and like from an edit perspective, like it's one of those winners where you're like, oh, this is this is a full circle. You had like, you know, uh the story of your brother, you cart. She's a really deserving person.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

So yeah, she's doing great. Uh we get a feast. Love this, and um at Blazer Wearing Secret CEO Richard tells us um he's been doing some Samoan study.

SPEAKER_03 21:25

Oh, he does. Well, has he now?

SPEAKER_01 21:29

And um look, if the word for redemption in Samoan wasn't super cool, yeah, we wouldn't uh fuck with it. But it's it is Togiola, which I feel like sometimes it's said differently. They already are fucking.

SPEAKER_03 21:42

No, that was like last year where like I think what I think our tribe what was our tribe called? Malosi, and someone keeps saying samosa. I'm like, it's not somosi.

SPEAKER_01 21:51

And you're like, if you fucking say that one more time, I'm already starving to death out here, and now I've got fucking samosas.

SPEAKER_03 21:56

So we're the part of the samosi tribe. Like, there is no samosi that's Melosi. Samosa. I don't know. Samosa. And I think we called it the wrong name. But I think Toggy'll, I don't know. Someone fact check how you think.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

If I ever get on Survivor, I'm going to go, I'm like, and if I make merge, I'm going to be like, okay, guys, I've looked up the word for sleigh in Samoan, and it's samosa. And then I'm going to wink at the camera and you'll know.

SPEAKER_03 22:21

And uh, me at home be like, yes!

SPEAKER_01 22:23

The cringeheads will know.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

Oh, everyone will know.

SPEAKER_01 22:26

Is happening. Uh so what happens next? Um Lottie wants to work with Sal. Purely vibes-based. They're very similar in their girl, girly vibes. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:37

Everyone's very vibes-based at merge, but everyone's sort of willing to cross-pollinate. Um, yeah. Lottie, Lottie is sort of like on on she means business. She's talking to everyone, she's talking to Mark, even though um ever like um Lottie threw some sass during that.

SPEAKER_01 22:55

Lottie's a sass squatch.

SPEAKER_03 22:57

She's brilliant. When they did that like Lazy Susan Bluff challenge, um, Lottie straight into it did not care about anything and goes, Keely, you working with Mark? For Mark?

SPEAKER_00 23:07

Mark's little bitch. Quite. Literally. Yeah, she's good.

SPEAKER_03 23:10

Um, and I think that's when like the Lottie Keely war started. And I'm like, Yes, Keely, hold a grudge, hold a grudge, yeah, wear her clothes.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

The clothes thing. So cool. Uh, in in classic jackass fashion, Caleb bites the nose off the pig at the feast.

SPEAKER_03 23:28

But then he also catches a fish with his bare hands.

SPEAKER_01 23:30

Yeah, that was wild. I like like right afterwards, just runs into the ocean and like grabs a fish. Fucking Zach Brown isn't fucking doing that. He's got a bazooka.

SPEAKER_03 23:40

He's got a bazooka and like military grade fish catching gear. Mans is out there with his hand, just being like, oh yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

Like it was an Ahee Tuna, but no, but hey, better than Northern. Uh, I don't know. At this point, I'm still finding him very annoying. I it's gonna take a little bit for me.

SPEAKER_03 23:57

I reckon I reckon he'll mature as the game matures. I think I think I I hope. Yeah. I hope.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

Later that night at Toggyola Camp, the returnees have a returnees conference and the Boomerang Alliance is born. And at this point, I'm like, one more fucking name. How many swear to God?

SPEAKER_03 24:17

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

We're at like over ten names.

SPEAKER_03 24:20

I I can't. I feel like you know, when alliance names are cool and it's sort of like vibe, like the vibes are good, you thought it through, and it just comes organically, it's great. Head office, love it.

SPEAKER_01 24:32

Yeah, love that. At least they're actually coming up with shit. I feel like in America, it's like we ate some tortilla chips together, so it's the tortilla chips alliance.

SPEAKER_03 24:42

See, much like the cranberry alliance of last year, who I still hate. Oh, you drank cranberry juice. Is that a really good alliance name? Anyway, not that we hold grudges. UTI Alliance! Thank you. That's why you should be called Sweet Jackson. We hold grudges still. Let that be known.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

The next day, Lotti is having the opposite conversation with Caleb and Ben trying to take out a returnee and like plant seeds that they should be doing that. And this I'm like correct. And then I'm gonna say a bit of a pitfall of the four returnees only casting choice on the show. Because obviously it gets to merge and they're all like, oh, what are these guys still doing here? Well, I did think that.

SPEAKER_03 25:25

But the thing is, we've made it to merge and they are still standing.

SPEAKER_01 25:28

True, but for how much longer they shouldn't be, I think they shouldn't be.

SPEAKER_03 25:32

Yeah, um, arguably, it's it's sort of baffling that first vote at merge isn't a very true.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

Also baffling that, like, yeah, it's taking like convincing. I would just be like, one after another, especially with the challenges that Simon and Brooke are winning. Yeah. You're fucking kidding me.

SPEAKER_03 25:49

Oh, those two you do, like, and I think Mark explains it in like a couple of uh not a couple because he gets voted out, but um uh episode after where like the likes of Brooke and Simon will get really sticky where you can't get rid of them. And if you remember All Stars, Brooke won after another. She just kept winning until she couldn't win no more.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

Robbed. Another name we learned about Marley. Mark and Keely. I did not they're a tight couple, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:14

See, I mean that's not really faded to be a good alliance because Marley dies if we remember the movie. And Marley dies in two days quite literally, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 26:25

It's foreshadowing. It is, but she is playing Mark with Rich. Um she's like telling each of them that they're her number one. I gotta say, I fucking love Keely. I love Keely.

SPEAKER_03 26:39

Also, Keely is a friend of the pod because do you know what she also loves? What? Mavs. She loves MAFs.

SPEAKER_01 26:46

Are you kidding me? No, Keely girl. Keely loves Mavs. Get your butt on my couch. Killy was talking immediately.

SPEAKER_03 26:52

She was talking to me about some like other trashy reality TV show that I had never heard of.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

Oh, we will be in touch, Miss Keely. I knew I knew she was my girl just from the start.

SPEAKER_03 27:01

Just vibes.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

She butters up Simon. I love this. She's like, you're very, very smart. Simon. And I was like, no one has ever said that. Hot in a budgy smuggler? Yes. Smart? No.

SPEAKER_03 27:14

But and and it's and it's so beautiful because you can't. I like I I would assume that anyone would see right through that. But I think precious Simon is so happy to hear it. And Keely just butters and butters and butters. And you can't.

SPEAKER_01 27:30

She's a butterfactory.

SPEAKER_03 27:31

I feel like if you were in like a vulnerable moment, you go, Yeah, thank you. I really thank you, Keely. I would really appreciate it. And she just twirls her hair and goes, I think Lottie is a problem.

SPEAKER_01 27:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:43

And then and like wildfire, it just catches.

SPEAKER_01 27:47

God I see.

SPEAKER_03 27:48

And even her closest allies are like, Yeah, okay, we'll blind Lottie. That sounds like a really good idea. Not the person that's instigating the vote again.

SPEAKER_01 27:55

We get the first immunity challenge of uh the merged the merge. And God's god is flirting with the tribe, they all work out, and he's like, Oh, good looking tribe. And I was like, excuse me?

SPEAKER_03 28:09

I know.

SPEAKER_01 28:09

I would fuck all of these people? There's like 12 of them or something.

SPEAKER_03 28:14

13? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 28:15

Yeah, 13. I'm like, okay, you're gonna say 13 people are good looking. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 28:21

I don't know. Maybe he has kink. He doesn't have a type. He just does not have a type. He would fuck with all.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

His type is 13 unwashed people.

SPEAKER_03 28:31

He likes them unwashed.

SPEAKER_01 28:34

He tells us about uh pole management, and I'm like, we are so back.

SPEAKER_03 28:40

With big boys and big poles.

SPEAKER_01 28:43

Big boys and big poles was I was like, thank fuck.

SPEAKER_03 28:47

I feel like the I don't know, the heavens opened up and you could just hear like harp music and everyone just going, oh my god, finally.

SPEAKER_01 28:55

We're gonna everything's gonna be okay.

SPEAKER_03 28:56

Everything's gonna be okay. She's gonna talk about poles and big boys.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

And the the bigger the boy, the bigger the pole.

SPEAKER_03 29:04

Yep. And you gotta just grab it with both hands. And then we all went, Yes, finally, a dick joke.

SPEAKER_01 29:12

I was like, I can continue watching.

SPEAKER_03 29:14

Just give the people what they want. You are also good at dick jokes, Dave Janay. You can do it.

SPEAKER_01 29:19

Yeah. The gay intern is on set and is like, come on, watching.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

I know he should get a little like little speaker.

SPEAKER_01 29:26

And then they throw him like a little protein bar or something.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

They're like, Good boy, Gigi.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

And he's like, oh, uh, Brooke wins this one. So she's the biggest boy.

SPEAKER_03 29:36

She is the biggest boy.

SPEAKER_01 29:37

Good honor.

SPEAKER_03 29:37

Why did Cameron no my favorite lines? This is like backtracking several episodes. I'm a Cameron goes, I'm a big dog in a no, I'm a big boy in a medium-sized body. That was great. And Brooke is a big boy in a small-sized body.

SPEAKER_01 29:50

Petite. Petite. She's so beautiful. She's such a threat out there. And he's kind of getting a winner. It is. I mean, but surely someone's gonna take that if they if they can.

SPEAKER_03 30:05

I will cry if she gets knifed at around four again. Because that's that will be hard.

SPEAKER_01 30:10

That's not fair to watch. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:12

Because she's had a flop idol play, great idle play.

SPEAKER_01 30:16

Yeah. Well, that first one, well, it doesn't count. I that I no they stitched her up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that was cute.

SPEAKER_03 30:23

Full production, mini production.

SPEAKER_01 30:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:26

Zero, not into that. Um, and I was gonna give like the like editing and production y people like a shout out, and then I remembered that.

SPEAKER_01 30:33

Well, besides that, they're doing great. They're doing great. Because it is, it's new people, is that right? Well, it's a new showrunner.

SPEAKER_03 30:38

So the new um yeah, showrunner EP different. All new, okay. All new. This is like the new um sit, I think, ooh, I I don't want to be wrong, but this is the first time this EP has been for a while.

SPEAKER_01 30:49

Well, it's it's consistent with what we normally get, but it I finding I'm finding it punchier.

SPEAKER_03 30:55

Yeah. So we know that Australian post-production slash editing is heavy-handed. Oh, yeah. Franken Oh, Franken by galore, and where you end up in the show does not determine your editing.

SPEAKER_01 31:07

And we all know that.

SPEAKER_03 31:08

We all and like look, I can't whinge because I heavy, heavily benefited from the edit last year. Not that I'm not great. But I'm pretty sure they edited out a few of my less um. I was a cunt out there, and they made me look so nice. I am not. Anyway. Um, and it's been good, it's been punchy, it's interesting, everyone's getting a bit of a say. Yeah. Um, and the story and the characters are sort of representing themselves. I'm really enjoying the season.

SPEAKER_01 31:35

Yeah, me too. Yeah. Like a lot.

SPEAKER_03 31:36

Yeah. Um, and I know everyone's sort of like shitting on it, being like, the ratings are really bad.

SPEAKER_01 31:42

Yeah, that I'm concerned about, I'm not gonna lie, because I need this show.

SPEAKER_02 31:46

I need it to continue.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

So you're worried about that, but also let's see how we go. Yeah. Uh so at Toggiola, Jackson uh wants him and the beauty and the boosts to take out Blanche and her big boltons. Um, I'm living for Blanche in this game, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 32:08

Blanche has voted incorrectly every single time.

SPEAKER_01 32:11

Which is why you keep her around, Noel? Or something. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 32:16

That works. Blanche gives such like hot mom energy. Yes. Yeah, Blanche's hot mom. Blanche gives me sort of like vibes of Jackie from All-Stars era and previous seasons. Um, I thought she was gonna be like a Dark Horse challenge beast. I mean, we've only seen a couple of um challenges so far, but maybe there's I would die if that happens.

SPEAKER_01 32:37

Blanche wins every single immunity from now until the end.

SPEAKER_03 32:40

Yeah, and yeah, Blanche has not voted.

SPEAKER_01 32:43

Because the challenges are all like, how long can you float in the water? And she's like, I fucking got this.

SPEAKER_03 32:50

She's like, hey. Yes, sucks to be you.

SPEAKER_01 32:53

And they're like, We're doing that challenge again.

SPEAKER_03 32:55

Yeah. And they're like, them rules, baby. It's not gonna be well.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

Um Lottie is getting a Jackson Ben split vote together. Uh, Mark and Keely want Lottie out. And what happens here? Caleb uh leaves the chat, and then Mark is like, This was so awkward. Alright, cool, so we're still doing that right.

SPEAKER_03 33:21

And we're not gonna tell him because he's gonna be really upset.

SPEAKER_01 33:24

He's crazy. There's even a bit where he's like, Is this that bit where like Brooke's chatting? She's like, I can't talk about that right now. He's like, Oh, because I'm here!

SPEAKER_03 33:35

She goes, she goes, No.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

It's not b it's because it's not you at all, babe.

SPEAKER_03 33:42

It's it's not you, it's me. It's actually me.

SPEAKER_01 33:44

I'm I can't say it because I'm here.

SPEAKER_03 33:46

I have stage fright. I was like, oh I was like, this is on T. Brookie, under your breath. Under your breath, just like no, you know this.

SPEAKER_00 33:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:57

Um, and like this is why I feel bad for Caleb sometimes, because Caleb is always in the corner. Yeah, because he's fucking annoying. No, he's annoying. He can't help it. But some people are just annoying.

SPEAKER_01 34:10

Don't get me wrong, he's very cute, but in a yeah, like puppy dog energy way.

SPEAKER_03 34:15

Yeah, yeah. If he were a dog, what dog would he be?

SPEAKER_01 34:19

A terrier. A little no, it'd be a mutt. But like the cutest little mutt, but like covered in dirt that you find in the sewer. And you just want to like take look after it. Vaccinate him. Yeah, vaccinate. Exactly. That's too accurate. Uh Sally and Rich chat. She tells us that she's always playing from the bottom. It's where she's best at. We love a good bottom. And we do on this pod. And Jackson is paranoid. Simon tells us that it's a tribe of 13.

SPEAKER_00 34:54

Anything could happen. Could get derailed real easy.

SPEAKER_01 34:57

And we head to tribal where they vote, and it's three on Ben, then Jack, then a Jackson, then a Lottie, and then more Lotties.

SPEAKER_03 35:07

More Lotties.

SPEAKER_01 35:08

And then uh she goes, You dirty dogs!

SPEAKER_03 35:11

Which is which is which is so fair.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

You I was a bit bummed.

SPEAKER_03 35:15

I was really bummed.

SPEAKER_01 35:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 35:17

Because if anyone was gonna raise the resistance, the real real queen of the resistance is Lottie.

SPEAKER_01 35:24

Agree, and she was championing that, and then now she's gone there, like, oh yeah, shit, maybe we'll do that thing, she said.

SPEAKER_03 35:30

Yeah, no, but now we've got like I don't I don't know. I I would have preferred Lottie in power as a opposed to Ben and Jackson.

SPEAKER_01 35:36

Same.

SPEAKER_03 35:36

Yeah, yes. Ben and Jackson sounds like Ben and Jerry's, not a great flavor. No, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 35:42

Um, this was also the tribal where Gigi uh tries to school. Richard is like, chill out, mate, the jewelry's not here. And then a great tweet from Dan Liebke on Blue Sky saying, Well, in fact, Gigi, all of the jewelry are there.

SPEAKER_00 36:02

And I was like, Yes, they are like everyone, like oh god.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

Anyway, episode 14 is called The Soul Collector.

SPEAKER_00 36:14

Oh, don't get it, S-O-L-E, because he's got lots of shoes.

SPEAKER_01 36:22

They're the production are stitching Ben up. They're like, they're like, come on, buddy, like be fun. Yeah. And he's doing it, and sometimes it lands, and sometimes he looks real stupid.

SPEAKER_03 36:32

Like some sometimes you're like um, what was it? A one-handed, one-armed man at a fan factory trying to read a newspaper.

SPEAKER_01 36:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:40

I got it. But it took a while. It took a while.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

They're not punchy, but he's so gorgeous that I'm just like, you can say whatever you want.

SPEAKER_03 36:47

He reminds so have you watched the wild thornberries?

SPEAKER_01 36:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:50

Donnie. Really? Yeah. That's what like that's what he was doing for the first half of the season.

SPEAKER_01 36:57

Yeah. Okay, yeah. No, I get it. Oh yeah, he is. Yeah, he's totally wild thornberrying.

SPEAKER_03 37:04

But now he's so happy. Now he's really, like, really drinking the Kool-Aid. He's got a big thing.

SPEAKER_01 37:09

Yeah, they've got him around his own.

SPEAKER_03 37:11

Yeah, which is which in Australian Survivor editing standard, it means that the four will be mighty.

SPEAKER_01 37:17

Huge.

SPEAKER_03 37:18

Like he's gonna go. He's gonna go arse over tit.

SPEAKER_01 37:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:22

It's that it's common. This, oh, it's very sort of like how DG in his first season, which is my favourite version of DG, mind you. Yeah, yeah. Was just like puffing his chest. He was doing really well, then whoop, back.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

Yeah, yeah, that's what we want.

SPEAKER_03 37:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:36

He's um angry. Uh so it's ToggyL tribe post tribal, and Caleb tells Mark he feels like an idiot.

SPEAKER_03 37:45

I'm never gonna trust my allies.

SPEAKER_01 37:47

He goes, I'm coming for you all. I'm like, what? Every single other person there.

SPEAKER_03 37:51

Okay. But this this like darling, read the room. Everyone thought it was a bad idea to tell you.

SPEAKER_01 37:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:58

And it sucks. And I would like I can empathize, it would suck.

SPEAKER_01 38:01

It would suck that feeling, yeah, having everyone do that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:04

Time, but anyway.

SPEAKER_01 38:06

Anyway. Uh, the next day, Blanche is worried. There's too many chiefs.

SPEAKER_03 38:12

There's too many chiefs. One of the chiefs has to take each other out. And I'm like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:17

Alright. Uh Mark says, I don't know how she's done it, but Keely has managed to ingratiate herself with the returnees.

SPEAKER_03 38:26

Oh, Keely is now honorary.

SPEAKER_01 38:29

She's honorary returnee.

SPEAKER_03 38:30

Like, I love that.

SPEAKER_01 38:32

And I feel I feel her.

SPEAKER_03 38:34

Oh, and it's so valid. I think it's a testament to Keely's game as well. She has done really well. She's managing her threat level really well. She's also just Queen of Sass.

SPEAKER_02 38:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 38:44

It's it's so weird. There's like a I don't know, the dichotomy of her is strange where she's just so cool, calm, collected.

SPEAKER_01 38:51

She's chill.

SPEAKER_03 38:52

But also insane at the same time. You know the scene where she sort of got mached. She's got crazy eyes. Yeah, she's got crazy eyes.

SPEAKER_01 38:58

In the best way.

SPEAKER_03 38:58

In the best way. Um she gets the machete. I thought she was gonna kill Sally. I think everyone of us collectively went, oh, she's actually she's gonna commit. Oh, the crazy eyes are real, she's gonna kill someone. Um but, and I think that's the great balance to the Keely episode.

SPEAKER_01 39:15

She's good. It was giving me photobombing your pick when we watched the premier episode together, and then I had all these DMs, people being like, Were you on Survivor? And I was like, sure.

SPEAKER_03 39:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:25

Season 3.5.

SPEAKER_03 39:27

I was actually on season two. You've seen it.

SPEAKER_01 39:29

You just forgot, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:31

I actually know OG Survivor because I was on season two. Everyone else, these these are new gen.

SPEAKER_01 39:35

She's like me, she's weasling her way in receptioning her way.

SPEAKER_03 39:39

Your honorary alumni.

SPEAKER_01 39:40

Yeah, which is too funny. I didn't even have to eat rice and beans for weeks. Oh okay, so this is where Simon calls Mark the soul collector and makes a shoe joke, and I went, Oh, Simon.

SPEAKER_03 39:58

It's it's it's good.

SPEAKER_01 39:59

Stop talking and take your clothes off.

SPEAKER_03 40:03

I thought it was a good line.

SPEAKER_01 40:05

Yeah, it was cute.

SPEAKER_03 40:06

It was cute.

SPEAKER_01 40:07

Yeah, but then so they come up with this plan to weaken Mark by taking him. To take him out. To take him out, yeah, by well, I mean I mean, don't don't take him out. Like buy him dinner, but they're like taking out Caleb that'll weaken Mark. I was like, okay, sure. But I I always hate that. It's like just go for the go for the the big boy. Don't go for the two IC.

SPEAKER_03 40:25

Yeah, but it's always the two IC. Everyone goes, oh, I'm really afraid of that person, but I'm gonna go for their number two because yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, it makes sense.

SPEAKER_01 40:36

No makes sense at immunity. Uh Simon wins. They do this like team thing first.

SPEAKER_03 40:42

I hate team challenges.

SPEAKER_01 40:43

Yeah, when it's I'm like, we just we just did weeks of that. Give it I'm I agree.

SPEAKER_03 40:47

I don't want to work. I hate like let it be known, I hate group projects in general.

SPEAKER_01 40:50

Yeah, just no the group assignment. Yeah, no thanks. No, yeah. Love the individual ones, love the endurance-y ones post-merge, that's always and like even the like the block stacking-y one where it gets a bit hairy. Yeah, love. Good for editing and getting us like But Simon wins this one, so now it's yeah, guys, just guys get like rid of these people!

SPEAKER_03 41:13

All right, like the writing is on the wall.

SPEAKER_01 41:15

Yeah. At camp, Mark is happy with the Blanch Plan.

SPEAKER_03 41:19

Blanch plan is on.

SPEAKER_01 41:20

Blanch plan is on. Or is it time for a big bloody move?

SPEAKER_03 41:25

Big Move Itis is in full swing. Has infected the tribe. Everyone's into it.

SPEAKER_01 41:32

And about bloody time, because I'm gonna need some spice.

SPEAKER_03 41:35

I mean, I wish it happened an episode ago. No, not that I wish that Mark didn't make merge, but I'm saying like homegirl Lottie could have stayed.

unknown 41:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:44

Um I don't know. You could have gotten big move it several weeks ago. Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 41:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:51

Alas.

SPEAKER_01 41:53

Alas. It's not meant to be. Uh Simon's conflicted. Mark is a big shield for him, but he's hearing the whispers about the Mark plan from Rich, and he's like, maybe this is the time to do that.

SPEAKER_03 42:08

My thing was, Rich, why did you tell him?

SPEAKER_01 42:11

True. Because there's only room for one blazer on the island.

SPEAKER_03 42:16

Apparently, like I was listening to some of the exit interviews. That wasn't all like Rich's fault, or like apparently there were multiple people getting the mark idea at the same time. Really? And it was sort of coming to Simon from all angles, but it looks like it came from Rich.

SPEAKER_01 42:33

Well, it didn't work out for Rich. Uh yeah, so we get to tribal and yeah, it's a blazer off.

SPEAKER_03 42:43

I know. Well, it wasn't was it a it wasn't a blazer off until the very end. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 42:48

It was sort of like we get Mark writing Rich's name in Thai. Which was such a fuck you.

SPEAKER_03 42:53

Oh no, I think he wrote something else.

SPEAKER_01 42:55

Or did it say like fuck you, mate? I don't think. I just assumed it was his name. What was it, Mark? I don't know. Tell us.

SPEAKER_03 43:00

He told me, but I could I couldn't remember what it was. But it was something sassy.

SPEAKER_01 43:04

Oh smart. Put it past him.

SPEAKER_03 43:06

Please, people that speak Thai. Or Mark, tell us what you said. I think it was like I I have a feeling it was the equivalent of lucky little bitch, but this tribal was fucking epic.

SPEAKER_01 43:17

This was really, really good.

SPEAKER_03 43:18

It was a great tribal, yeah. Just Mark doing a mark and be like, yeah, you know what? I'm done with this shit. Or Ben couldn't.

SPEAKER_01 43:23

Kent, get over here. And then they the made the best man win thing. I was like, whoa.

SPEAKER_03 43:26

Which was great. You know what? If I'm gonna stare down the barrel of voting out someone and they're like, you know, I'm I might as well just like do something as well, I'm gonna be like, you know what? Yeah, game on. Game, game on, moles.

SPEAKER_01 43:38

Um yeah, this was game on moles this time.

SPEAKER_03 43:41

And it was just the subtle looking across the aisle, getting said fake idol out, and everyone just going, Oh, oh which I I don't know. If so, if you have the idea that someone's actively showing you an idol, you do have a feeling that it's probably a bluff. Yes. But if that's the case, why don't you just move though?

SPEAKER_01 44:04

Still have to.

SPEAKER_03 44:04

Just switch the target.

SPEAKER_01 44:05

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 44:06

Like if you're not sure if it's a bluff, but you still want one of the hierarchy out, just vote for Brooke or Healy. You don't even need to find it.

SPEAKER_01 44:16

Oh, it would have been a great time to get rid of Brook. Yeah. Anyway.

SPEAKER_03 44:19

Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 44:19

Episode 15 is called Like Venomous Snakes. So see, there was a snake at some point.

SPEAKER_03 44:25

Ooh. What did you think of Mark's parting words to Rich? What did he say again?

SPEAKER_01 44:31

Um, so it was There's only room on this island for one blazer.

SPEAKER_03 44:36

What did he say? I can't remember. It was how the like episode ended. So the votes are being read out.

SPEAKER_01 44:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:42

And you know, it's Mark. Does not count. Mark does not count. Which is great.

SPEAKER_01 44:47

So good.

SPEAKER_03 44:47

So throwback to Wentworth does not count. And it gets to the point where I think it was Mark reads the handwriting, and then Rich goes, and Mark goes, Was that you? And Rich goes, Yeah, well, you you put my name in the book. Oh, that's right, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 45:03

Yeah, no, that was amazing. He's like, and I'll do it again.

SPEAKER_03 45:06

Oh, and then I think Rich just went out. Yeah. Which is like savage. Monkey boys. No, it was good. It was good.

SPEAKER_01 45:14

This is what we love Mark for. Evil genius. Evil genius. After this tribal, Mark says, Ben is in big dog territory now. Uh and Ben is shook. Uh, yeah, he kinda wishes that Mark was on a plane out of there.

SPEAKER_03 45:32

But why you could have had him on a plane if you just kept your mouth shut and keep it close to your chest.

SPEAKER_01 45:36

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 45:37

Anyway.

SPEAKER_01 45:38

Well, they get it right this time.

SPEAKER_03 45:42

So sad.

SPEAKER_01 45:43

We get my favorite part of um Australian Survivor, which is a reward challenge where they take turns doing something.

SPEAKER_03 45:52

It's this was I don't know. This was sort of like less sla I don't know. I like it when it's a giant.

SPEAKER_01 46:00

I like it when it's like the nachos or like a big cake or something. Like comically large things. Comically large things. And they get fucking filthy. Yeah, this little bits.

SPEAKER_03 46:09

And it was it was like a tea party, a high tea?

SPEAKER_01 46:12

As soon as I saw that rice-filled timer, I was like, it's in there. It's in there.

SPEAKER_03 46:16

But what was funniest, again, Queen Keely with this ass. Should we ring Cam out? What?

SPEAKER_01 46:23

That was so funny. Because he's annoying.

SPEAKER_03 46:25

He's annoying.

SPEAKER_01 46:26

I hate Cam. They fucking do.

SPEAKER_03 46:28

But I think, is it because Cam has just been right about everything at the time?

SPEAKER_01 46:33

Did you remember the cat? Like, even when CEO Rich had to slice up that chocolate cake, he was like, Cam going back. Is that can you really annoy? Like, it's acknowledged that Cam is annoying. Really fucking annoying.

SPEAKER_03 46:44

But that's so rude.

SPEAKER_01 46:45

Yeah. If he's very rude, they're like, let's not, let's and they just ring the bell. Like he gets in there.

SPEAKER_03 46:50

And he takes one bite of like hors d'oeuvre, and he's rung out. So rude! I I support Keely's wrongs and rights. But it yeah. Sorry, Kev.

SPEAKER_01 47:01

Yeah, she was good for that.

SPEAKER_03 47:02

Killy.

SPEAKER_01 47:03

Um, so these winners, it was Caleb, Jackson, Laws, Cameron, Keeley, and Simon. And they oh and yeah, and Ben was there. And yeah, they have to go one by one. And yeah, Keely wins out because she gets the end and she's like, hmm, well, I get to watch timer and then finish. And um, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:26

Then she just like delves deep into said sand timer. It's one of like the funniest scenes ever. It's she's sort of half her body length is in this urn. She's got one croc dangling off her foot.

SPEAKER_01 47:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:40

And she's like I was like, yes.

SPEAKER_01 47:44

Sometimes my girl got an idol, so I'm happy. Yeah. She now identifies as an idol holder. That killed me. She's got good chat.

SPEAKER_03 47:55

I sometimes go. Did you mean to say that? Did you did you think it was funny? I think it's just funny. Yeah, it's great.

SPEAKER_01 48:00

Very funny. That night, Simon confirms his loyalty to the Beastie Boys. Beastie Boys. Um, better name, you can have that for free.

SPEAKER_03 48:09

That was a really good name.

SPEAKER_01 48:10

But they aren't buying it so much so that Ben and Jackson are now after him.

SPEAKER_03 48:18

Wait, but this was what who gave them the idea that it should be Simon? Or did they come up with that idea themselves?

SPEAKER_01 48:24

I don't know. Okay, finally. Because he keeps winning and looking so gorgy. Yeah. I'd want him out of there. I'd want him out of there just because he would distract me so much.

SPEAKER_03 48:36

Yeah, from all of the strategic blindsiding that you would do. You can't be hot and distra and good at challenges.

SPEAKER_01 48:44

Budgie smugglomatized. Uh this immunity challenge is concentrate on a ball. Uh comes down to all the newbies. No, who does it come down to? No, it's Brooke. It's Brooke and Brooke and Cameron? No, Brooke and Simon and Simon.

SPEAKER_03 49:00

Brooke and Simon at the end.

SPEAKER_01 49:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:02

And oh, someone else is there.

SPEAKER_01 49:03

Jackson is there for a bit.

SPEAKER_03 49:04

Mark was there for a moment. Cameron's talking during and they're all like, shut up.

SPEAKER_00 49:09

Brooke's like, seriously, Cameron, shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_03 49:11

No, it was actually Sally's idea, which is like Sassy of Sally. Good on you. Because um Queen Blanche was opposite Brooke's in the middle, Cam's there. Sally goes, Cam, you are quite annoying. You should really lean into it.

SPEAKER_01 49:26

Here I am thinking that Caleb is the most annoying person on the show, but no. It's actually Cam. Out there, it's it's Cam Ram. We're not seeing it. We're not seeing it. He's not getting any airtime, so we're not seeing him being around the room.

SPEAKER_03 49:37

I need to see exactly how annoying Cam is.

SPEAKER_01 49:39

But yeah, no, of course, Challenge Beast Brooke takes this one out. She's gonna win all these endurance ones.

SPEAKER_03 49:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:46

Because she's like a statue.

SPEAKER_03 49:48

Well, like that was the whole point. This is like the Brooke mentality. She sort of gets in, really great social game, has a good mind for the strat as well, and then she kills it in this area.

SPEAKER_01 49:58

She's gonna win those, and then Simon's gonna win all the like big big boy challenges. So between them, it's like there is no one else.

SPEAKER_03 50:05

Get rid of them.

SPEAKER_01 50:06

There's literally no one else. Back at camp, Ben rallies the troops to split on Mark and Keely. Because they've learned now about what a split vote is.

SPEAKER_03 50:15

Well, no, so as the edit works out, it's actually Caleb that goes with it. Oh yeah, because Caleb goes, I don't really want to go with this plan to do science. I don't really want to go with this plan! I want to go with this plan! It's the worst day of my life! I hate it. I want to do my thing right now. And I don't know if it doesn't want to speak like that. Um, but then he sort of um pitches to Ben that oi, Mark's talking about you. Yeah, and then he goes to Mark and goes, oi, Ben's talking about getting there.

SPEAKER_01 50:46

Yeah, oh it's between Mark and Ben. Mark wants Ben to be the mayor of Drew Villa.

SPEAKER_03 50:50

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 50:50

Uh and Mark's also running a casino. Yeah. He's like, you're running a casino, you need a few henchmen. I was just like, who are you hanging out with that these are your analogies, mate? Like what?

SPEAKER_03 51:01

I think he's just been undernourished and he was like, he's just like everything is coming all at once.

SPEAKER_01 51:06

And then we meet Chaos Caleb with a K.

SPEAKER_03 51:09

Chaos Caleb with a K.

SPEAKER_01 51:10

Must be both Ks, right?

SPEAKER_03 51:12

What?

SPEAKER_01 51:12

Like a K Chaos has a K and Caleb also has a K.

SPEAKER_03 51:16

No, he's they both have C's.

SPEAKER_01 51:18

I know, but anyway.

SPEAKER_03 51:19

We're one K away from this being not good. But but they, you know, but the newbies have now learnt what a split vote is.

SPEAKER_01 51:30

They have. And Chaos Caleb is in a good position because he's kinda in the middle, he can go anywhere, and he's like, I used to be the underdog, and now I'm the big dog! Um sorry, not sorry, still fine, I'm annoying.

SPEAKER_03 51:44

But it's also the world's dumbest split.

SPEAKER_01 51:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:47

I mean, there have been dumbest splits, but why are you throwing two votes? It's completely negated, unless there's a double idol play, which I don't think is gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00 51:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:58

Uh a tribal Gigi reminds us that we are voting for our first member of Le Jury.

SPEAKER_03 52:04

Mayor of the Jury Villa.

SPEAKER_01 52:05

Which honestly, if I was gonna go, like that's a f that's he's a fun place to go, I reckon.

SPEAKER_03 52:10

Because if we think about it, everyone sets the tone by being mayor of the Jewelry Villa. You can either be absolute chaos and go, no, I'm a bit a little bitch, and everyone is gonna suffer alongside me. Paulie was not the one.

SPEAKER_01 52:26

No, he wasn't the he wasn't the mayor, but he was the drama of Drew Villa. It was the drama. Make Jury Villa so good.

SPEAKER_03 52:33

I'm I'm sort of glad that there's no Jewelry Villa because I know.

SPEAKER_01 52:38

Oh, yeah, we've only got Jewish out.

SPEAKER_03 52:39

We only got Jewish out. Damn, so we don't get to see all of the drama. I know, so we don't get a real like a rendition of real housewives of Samoa. Missing out.

SPEAKER_01 52:49

Well, that means forever, Paulie's the queen of Polly is the queen of Drury Villa. Yeah. Oh, forever. Uh Caleb does this iconic line, he's like, the truth comes out of the urn, not the mouth. And I was like, that was good.

SPEAKER_03 53:02

Eloquent.

SPEAKER_01 53:02

That was good.

SPEAKER_03 53:03

Eloquent. He can speak.

SPEAKER_01 53:04

They were all like, oh, oh, the truth.

SPEAKER_03 53:07

The truth. But this is this is the the how like edits shift. As soon as people go from just blithering wrecks to actually being able to speak like normal.

SPEAKER_01 53:17

I was exactly. And as soon as he said that, I was like, oh, okay. Okay. He's like the hero of the show.

SPEAKER_03 53:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:22

And we're gonna say bye to Mark. And that's exactly what happened.

SPEAKER_03 53:25

That's what happened. And that's how you know there's an uptick.

SPEAKER_01 53:27

Yeah, I was like the only person online like tweeting like Mark Nerd like zero likes. Like everyone was so like, yeah, fucking get him.

SPEAKER_03 53:36

And I was like, oh my that's the same with me. I mean, why? Oh someone actually had the actually, no, I'm not gonna say slander because I don't want to. But this is what I mean about Reddit. It's you want a villain, but then when a villain is villainous and confident. No, you don't really want them.

SPEAKER_01 53:56

I know, I know.

SPEAKER_03 53:57

But you have like really dominant.

SPEAKER_01 53:58

It's the tall poppy thing of the returnees, I think.

SPEAKER_03 54:00

And then yeah, but even it with the newbies, you've got like really dominant female characters, yeah, but then you don't like them. Exactly. Because they're manipulative, they're really bitchy. Like we we can we can't have both.

SPEAKER_01 54:14

I know, yeah. Uh but anyway, he does it, gets rid of Mark, and uh on the way out, Mark whispers Keely to Brooke.

SPEAKER_02 54:23

Brooke's Keely's got an idol.

SPEAKER_01 54:25

Yeah, so yeah, thoughts. Excited about that. Love, great week, yeah, great week of television. Snapstam art. Um, snaps to mart, we love you, Mark. Uh, and yeah, Jeru's out was really fun. And now I'm excited. So we've got, yeah, the challenge beasts are left uh from the returnees. Yeah. Um challenge beasts.

SPEAKER_03 54:45

Oh, on the newbie side. Ben, Ben, let's not forget the man dragged a boat in the show.

SPEAKER_01 54:49

We should be doing it. But yeah, so hopefully that happens next week.

SPEAKER_03 54:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:54

Um, yeah, I'm excited. It's a it's a fun space. I think a lot's gonna change between now and the end, and that's why I love the merge game.

SPEAKER_03 55:00

Well, because this is what happens when you get like a big player out. Yeah, all the decks get reshuffled, yes, and then the airtime gets reshuffled. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 55:12

I would like to see the returnees turn on each other.

SPEAKER_03 55:15

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 55:15

That would make me very happy because it's kind of boring when they're just like, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:19

We saw like hints of it with Mark and Simon, which was the obvious. Um, but like, is Simon gonna turn on Brooke?

SPEAKER_01 55:28

She's a big threat.

SPEAKER_03 55:29

Who would dare turn on Brooke?

SPEAKER_01 55:30

Who would dare?

SPEAKER_03 55:31

Yeah, who would dare?

SPEAKER_01 55:32

Well, Karen, thank you so much for joining me this week.

SPEAKER_03 55:36

I braved Slow Walkers, The Rain, and Children.

SPEAKER_01 55:39

And we thank you for your service.

SPEAKER_03 55:41

Thank you. Always.