Drag Race Down Under vs The World - Season 1 Meet The Queens (w/ Jean Lizza)

Oh my GOOD GAY GIRLY GAWDLAND. Drag Race Herstorian and best judy Jean Lizza is on the couch to Meet These Queens once again. And its finally happening y’all, we are getting a Drag Race Down Under Vs The World. What the actual. We are talking runner-ups, ruspiriacies, Raven’s skin tone and more. Our predictions and looks ranked. Join us won’t you? Subscribe on Patreon or Apple Subscriptions for weekly Drag Race Down Under Vs The World recaps with extra special guests.

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This podcast was produced on the land of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation. Welcome to Australia!

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Someone who is such a connoisseur of reality television. The content is hideous.

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Sorry about this. Oh my god.

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Gene Bloody Litza.

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We're back. We're back for Drag Race.

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Welcome back. We are.

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We're backpack, backpack, back again. I I just it's kind of like my safe space. Just talking about drag race and being annoyed or happy about it.

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It does feel correct having you here on the couch to do this meet the Kwans. And we are recording this a little bit in the past. Um but listener, you'll know that tomorrow this bloody show starts. So get excited.

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I am really excited. I I I actually am genuinely really excited.

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I haven't been I haven't been excited about a franchise of a reality show since the last year when Australian Survivor vs. the world was announced. Because it's like it's a perfect format to do. Like it's great. You chuck in some, you know, because all these shows now they've got every country in the world participating. You know, it's the Olympics of drag. Absolutely. We live.

SPEAKER_01 1:37

I I just think I mean I think we're probably two of the biggest supporters of Drag Race Down Under ever. Like uh, you know, publicly anyway, and it is a show that gets it gets dragged. It gets dragged so much, and I Pardon the pun, but I she has been dragged, this show. And I actually think it's really unfair now that I I've been breathing through it and looking back, and we had a beautiful season of a drag race last season. So season four was fantastic. Yeah.

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I will say, as much as yes, I agree that um some of the dragging was unfair, some of it was absolutely warranted. I will just put that on the record. You know what I'm fucking talking about. Girl, that really was a rough spot, season one. Gotta just remember it was COVID. Rue was sitting in a hotel room for two weeks in Auckland, hate thinking, why did I do this? 100%. Never want to do it again. But cut to now, and we're here at yet another spin-off. So I gotta say, this is a time of a lot of new titles. So we've got Drag Race Mexico Latina Royale, also a new title. Yep. Canada's Drag Race All-Stars, also the first time we're seeing that, and this are all gonna be on at the same time. It's wild.

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Like, sorry. It is wild. And I'm just like, oh more?

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Which is I think Does Rue get like bonus for new like making a new show?

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Because she can literally say now, like, I've created like they franchised it out, so and she's the owner of the franchise, right?

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Along with what Randy Babato and like it's Wendy's, it's McDonald's.

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Yeah, yeah. They're just like, where do you want it? On the moon? Like, let's do drag race on the moon. Like, you know, watch this space. Watch the shit out of that. Hosted by Tammy Brown.

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I think we've That would be amazing!

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I was already up there. Watch one million percent. We've often bring brought up uh Futurama with with Drag Race, just like Rue's head in a jar, like living forever. It you can see it genuinely like season 60.

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Intergalactic drag race. You know my theory, which I want everyone to spread, is that RuPaul deceased some time ago and that since the creation of AI, we have been witnessing an AI clone of mother on our screens. Prove me wrong.

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I mean, you you remember that time when she wore the the sunglasses and no one no one believed it was it was real. That's right. It was that moment.

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She really hated COVID, but it's crazy actually because COVID was when she took the leap from just her because before that it was just drag race. UK had one season pre-COVID, and then the second season of UK was the one that was interrupted halfway through COVID. And then that was when we were getting Canada and Down Under and all these other ones, and then like the floodgates really open, and that was all around.

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It was kicked to another level, like fucking stop her. COVID absolutely didn't stop direct. I will find a way possibly, yeah. It possibly could have put the brakes on it, like for just a minute, you know? Because I I think the problem with it is it's it's you know, it opens up like a kaleidoscope, there's a million like uh franchises, but then things like you know, all stars, which were very special. The all-star seasons were so special, and then it's like oh now it's just a freaking circus of a million queens and a billion because it's just part of the kaleidoscope, and yeah, so it's I I want Germany, I want Latina, I want I want it all, but I also don't want to be bombarded, and I don't want it all, so it's sort of like a weird one.

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Did you see Latina Royale? Which firstly love this. I I loved Philippines Slasian Royale, yeah. That was so slept on. That was that this year or last year? Whatever that was. That was amazing. That was a year, yeah. Must be last year because we went to the Philippines just after it, so I was all like jazz. Yeah. Um but Latina Royale looks great. Alexis Mateo is breaking her story as the first queen to participate on five seasons. That is wild.

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There are there are there are a few of them out there. There are a few of them out there.

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Kennedy's coming for that.

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Kennedy's Davenport's like, just bring it, you know. Yeah, Kennedy will be there. Silky, yeah. Like, yeah, some people have, you know, you kind of would thought maybe Manila, but I think she's alright, you know. Like then we had like, you know, Juju, obviously, you know. Um, but you know, there's some there's some other people just knock, knock, knocking on the door to be like, you know, put me on five times. And I think at this point we need you need to have really have that charisma down, the charisma part of charisma uniqueness and urban talent. Otherwise, you are just in a sea of nothing.

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Do you know what's next is Rue's blacklist all-stars? So it's like Pearl, oh my god, Courtney, yeah, Willem. I know.

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Are cancelled people included in? George.

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Sherry Park can join. I don't know who the fuck else is on the cancelled list.

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Oh my god!

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Put them all on, just chuck them all on.

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I would die. And they can have the AI version of Roo Hosting. Amazing. Because she doesn't want to be in the same room as them. But to us, we'll be like, oh my god. Mother is so forgiving. Benevolent mother. She died five years ago. Um, all right, so we are here today to pull apart this uh Meet the Quance that we've been given for the first ever season. And I'm gonna say it, it's the last, right? Like yeah, maybe possibly the last season of Drag Rose Sound Uh versus the World. Uh but before we do that, I just need to give the listeners a brief scheduling update for the pod. Because you know, we're in we're in flux. Yeah. But there's a lot happening in the Australian reality TV landscape. And this is the podcast. This is it. Yeah. So next week we'll have our Master Chef Rap. Wow. Which I'm very excited about. Finally capping that one off. Great season this year. Sure. Um, then we're straight into the traitors. Amazing. Amazing. So crossover, we got two drag race down under superstars on that show. Queen Motherfucking Kong.

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Thrilled.

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I am thrilled by this casting of Queen. And Reese Bloody Nicholson. Ah! Who's eaten those promos alive. Like he's in every shot of the trailer.

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Every single achievement and thing that happens to Reese, I am thrilled beyond belief to see our our golden, golden child. Yes. Power to them.

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And uh yeah, and then over on Patreon or Apple Subscriptions is where you will find my recaps of Drag R Stand Under vs. the world. So that's right, girlies. If you want to cringe along to the season with me, you've got to subscribe. So head on over to Apple Subs or Patreon.

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The podcast today keeps the doctor away.

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We've got to push some of it behind the paywall. Sorry, dolls. Um, alright. Let's start. Our overall thoughts. It's a pink tradey theme. Right.

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Which kind of like it works. Look, great. And under construction. I love the kind of sort of nod to like, hey, we're retooling.

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We're rebuilding the set. We're rebuilding the set. And Michelle even fucking says that and thinks she's like, we've got a new set. I'm like, bitch, do you really need to look at?

SPEAKER_01 9:55

She said that. I was like, okay. But you know what? Michelle is is all in, and and she's just like, if we gotta sell this show, I'll sell this motherfucking show. Yeah. And God bless her, you know, like that is great. Totally. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:10

She looks great. She's got a hard hat. Oh my god. Um, there's rhinestones. Um Reese looks fabulous in these promos, also. And then how the fuck did she do it? Lazy Bloody Susan is a permanent fixture this season. We are molested amazing. But also, isn't that crazy to think like only a few years ago we were going to her like season three of Down Under, like screenings at a pub in Fitzroy.

SPEAKER_01 10:45

Oh my god, it was like the penny, the pinnacle, it's like it's it's not even a stage, you know? Like they were pushed in that corner. It's it's incredible. It was a thrilling thing to witness to watch, you know, someone that you've seen at the fringe festival blow up and then win drag race.

SPEAKER_02 11:05

And all that was in a landslide, too. In a landslide. In a way that like she ate that season up. She ate it and then everything we'll get to vibe later, but like obviously there was amazing competition competition. Yeah. However, yeah, when you come that prepared to the knife fight, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:24

Yeah. It was it was it was a thrill. It was a thrill. So yeah, lazy just like being included. And I'm just gonna say, Lazy must be laving and living for it.

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Going. Firstly, I think the thing she's living for the most is that it's very likely at this stage that this show is never happening again. Therefore, theoretically, she will reign forever.

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She might reign forever.

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I reckon it's likely. Do I want more Dragos and Under? Absolutely. Yes. But like, I just I'm being a realist, TV landscape is rough down here at the best of times, particularly now. Creative arts is fucking difficult at the moment. Cuts, cuts, cuts.

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Yeah, like every show is closing. Australian show is struggling. I mean, that's crazy.

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So, like, and that's like our best show. It's so well regarded. Like, it's just kind of like, what are we doing, people? Yeah. So it's very unlikely this is coming back. So therefore, Lazy could theoretically just like rain for eternity.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

Which she would love. She would love to be the overlord of our lives forever. And God bless her. You know? Oh, it's it actually checks out. It really does. It just really works with the vision that she has of herself, which I again, that's what that's what makes a great drag queen as well. Yeah. Being sort of deranged and just digging your heels in and doing whatever the fuck you want.

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Doing whatever you want, and that's very lazy. She's uncompromising, and we love her for it. Yeah. This five dollar note dress. Oh. I just love it so much. And it's so funny because I watched a little bit of the like fan reactions to the promo. All of the internationals, it's gone straight over there. They're like, oh, she's wearing money as a dress. Cool. And I'm like, oh no, no, no. You're only getting half the story. Yes, that is our money, but also, and I'm telling you now, and this is directed at you, international listener. There is a certain way that you can fold a five dollar note in Australia, and it looks like a whale is sucking a big dick.

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It really does. It's great. Yeah. It's one of our best things about it. We've got world-class money as well. You can't break it, you can't do anything. Yeah, it's plastic. It's it's it's fantastic.

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You know, I I love that just Google Australian five dollar note sucking cock and it'll come up. But it's so lazy to turn that into like a fashion moment.

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Yeah. Yeah. Really, really nailing it. Also, you're from Australia and you're representing down under, so it's kind of it's kind of perfect, you know. She she did debut that look a little while again.

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And it's a pink note, so it like look yeah, I just yeah.

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Yeah, I I used to have a $20 bill sleeping bag, and so it just really brought me back.

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I love that.

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Oh my god, I still did you get that? Oh my god, so long ago. I wish I still had a rest in peace, $20 bill sleeping bag.

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Oh my god. Um, alright. Now we're just gonna lead with this. But the biggest gaggerina from the drop was Raven, and that's what everyone is freaking out about online.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

It's a huge, it's a huge casting. Do you believe it? So I have gone through a few feelings with this. At first I was like, what is going on? She does makeup, what? Like she is next to RuPaul, she's in the car, you know. This is just a blur, this is just a little thing. But as I've been the the week has and the the couple of weeks that since we've had that kind of announcement, yeah, I've started to feel like it could be true because you forget Raven didn't win drag race.

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No, she was a runner-up.

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She was runner-up twice.

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So And can I say there are a lot of runners up on this cast? Like most of the five of the 11 cast queens are runners up.

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Yeah. And it's so it's such an out there idea that it may just work. And I so I I think she might be part of the cast. I mean, I could be wrong, and I'm gonna say in like three weeks, I'm gonna be looked like an idiot for saying that. But at first I was like, ha ha, oh, that's hilarious. You guys are hilarious, but now I'm like, she never won drag race.

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I really hope she is, but I've I really doubt it.

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I it's you know, it'd be inter it'd be a great story opportunity because it is not easy to come back and be all like, yeah, I'm doing sketches, right? You know?

SPEAKER_02 16:06

Is she gonna be like the mole or something? It's like are they doing that? Do you know what I mean? Like, is she- I hadn't even thought of that. I would die. What I would die is if there's shots of like her like sneaking to Michelle and like feeding Michelle tea each week. I would like love that. What show is this?

SPEAKER_01 16:26

You know, that's what I want to know. Like, this is a new this is an almost new show. Well, at the start they tell everybody like one of you is the I love bringing this back, this show from the 90s back as well. Or that she does the first runway and she just walks, she keeps walking into the judges. She just keeps walking. No, out the door, out the door into the streets of Portugal. So I look, I'm I'm I'm all here for her opening look.

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Yeah.

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Like whatever that's gonna be. I mean, come on, girl. You know? So I I'd I'd be interested. I mean, I I don't I don't know. I don't know what you're saying seems right, but then a part of me just like, I want to believe. Yeah, you know. I want to believe. An amazing casting. Irrespective, I think it's got people talking about the show, and they will tune in to see what it's about.

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I have one gripe with the casting that I'm gonna make now, and then I'm gonna shut the fuck up about it. So we have representation from every season of Down Under except season two, which is famously the best season of Down Under. That is I'm just sorry.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

That was definitely up.

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Yeah. And I think it's because a lot of those girlies have already gone off and done their own stuff. I'm thinking Queen Kong, I'm thinking Hannah Conda. Yeah. But there's one queen from season two that we need to see more of.

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Oh my god, tell me.

SPEAKER_02 17:50

Fucking Minnie Cooper.

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My hero. I love her.

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Why is she not on this cast?

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Honestly, I I I dreamed for the day to her to have her redemption story. This is it, bitch. This is it. You know, so I'd be I'm really interested if you do talk to Minnie this season. Will she approach the tea? Oh, she'll spill the tea. Oh, she's we'll get her on. She will not not spill the tea ever. But yeah. But yeah, I'm just a bit like, okay. I love her so much. Yeah. First rude girl who ever approached me about the the podcast. So generous. Um and so bonkers. Like, which is everything you want. Hello.

SPEAKER_02 18:31

She's if you're thinking of an all-star season, you want moments where you you can play the clip. I'm thinking the clown lip sync. Like you play the clip and everyone's like, ah, like iconic moments. Yeah. So that's I don't know, it's like nothing against the girlies they've chosen, they're all amazing. Yeah, but it would have been nice to have some repping from the city. I just would have loved a bit of Mini. But yeah, I think it's because those season two girlies have gone off and done lots of stuff since.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

It was a big, big, big season. And also, uh Queen was sort of featured as a judge last season, wasn't she? Yeah, yeah. And Spanky was sort of brought in, although not brought in as a judge, which is so crazy because she won Drag Race. She was did a bit. I think she did a bit, if I remember correctly. Confirmed that with Spanky when you speak to her.

SPEAKER_02 19:20

I can't remember, but yeah, they brought back a few. And that's the other thing. Well, so I just saw as well on Canada's Drag Race All-Stars, they have got Jimbo and Priyanka as permanent judges. Wow. But I love that. It's uh I it's like I love it. Took like this long for us to put drag queens on the panel.

SPEAKER_01 19:42

I know when we first saw it, it was like, oh, yeah, the people that do that. People who do fucking drag, who knows what it takes.

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Not like us fucking Muppets sitting here.

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I know, I can only only talk about it in context of a TV show. Yeah, exactly. They can talk about it in like they know what it takes, you know.

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Um shell makes sense because she is a dragon. She is a fucking dragon. Alright, let's start with this motherfucking quest. Um you've got you've just taken the top off in perfect timing. Perfect timing. Let's start with Ms. Art Simone, drag race down under season one runner up, and she's desperate for the crown.

SPEAKER_01 20:23

Drag motherfucking royalty in Australia. Just want to say, you know, uh, I am so thrilled that Art is getting a chance to tell her story properly. I think art was in season one of Drag Race, it was extremely trying circumstances. Oh my god. And a lot of what makes art so unique was completely lost in translation in that season. Fully. And what I love about art is like, yes, it was a probably a crushing kind of like to not for her to not to win, I think. For her, winning is everything. Um, but she's just gone on to do such great work since her season of Drag Race to solidify. I think out of a lot of the the girls in this cast, a lot of the dolls in the cast, she knows who she is the best and knows her brand. I would say so. The best. Like with this Kath and Kim show that she's toured so successfully. To be honest, can I be really honest?

SPEAKER_02 21:24

I was shocked to see her back. I I was like, oh, okay. Like it's makes sense, it's correct and it's great, but I thought she was like, I'm done, you know. Well, if anything, it's like she doesn't need to do this. And I thought she was done. I thought she maybe had a bit of bad bug with the show. But do you know what? I think it speaks to her character to come back because it is like fuck yeah, like she she is in on the joke, you know, like and having Lazy as a judge as well is gonna be hilarious. Oh my god. It's like that's ridiculous Kardashian eclipsing Paris Hilton, which did happen. Yes, um, and uh Paris reminding everyone why she's the OG. Do you know what I mean? That's what it's giving. Like I'm just saying, hang on. Love that. Former assistant. Um, like try and blind you with her new and exciting ways. I'm old school drag. So I'm kind of here for that.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

Yeah, and I think it's a it's a better uh she's having a better, you know, re-entry, non-COVID, like the stress of that's that era of doing it was tough, you know? Yeah. And so I I love this opportunity to for them to play and have fun. Um, yeah, I'm I'm here for Art Simone.

SPEAKER_02 22:39

In her Meet the Queen, she reminds us that she's more than that means nothing. Um, even though that was a great moment. Oh my god, such a show. And she leaned into it. Yeah. Um, how do you feel about this neon look with the Pauline pants down red quiff?

SPEAKER_01 22:55

I I I it's kind of yeah, I like it. It's kind of giving like the I I don't know, like a uh bird punk kind of vibe or something like that. Like I yeah, I look, Art's very good at drag. Yeah you know, like she doesn't look shit, you know. Um very fucking good at drag. Very fucking good at drag. So um yeah, it's it's a real opportunity here to Andre's all.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

I mean, she's been traveling the world with the Fountain Lakes production, which we love. So yeah, cool to see her back in this context as well. Yeah. Uh all right. Next up, we're gonna go to Ms. Nicole Page Brooks from Atlanta, Georgia. This is the most inspired casting. I am be beyond delighted. Makes so much sense for Down Under for some strange reason. It 100% does. When this was all rumored and stuff, I was like, fuck yeah, that makes sense. And then to have it confirmed now, I'm like stunned. So she was um 11th both on season two and all stars 10. Uh, which was a tournament of fuckery.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

So I have to say that she when she came back for All Stars 10, there hasn't been a drag queen that their charisma has shone like that through the show in such a long time. Like it it she just like stood out in a sea of drag queens and she didn't even do that well. This was so amazing, and I it's just like her personality is such that she is just that draggy drag, draggy drag drag queen, and I love all the success that Nicole Page Brooks is getting with this sort of revamping.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

Oh, and anyone from the first couple seasons, like that's huge, huge, like really good.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

Yeah, and I I do think yeah, I think she she has a good rapport with the UK and and Australian queens. I I like she's a personality, she speaks the language, you know.

SPEAKER_02 24:53

Yeah, and it'll be funny to see her interact with these Australian queens. I think, oh my god, now I'm thinking about this actually being a show, and I'm like, fucking give it to me. Like, are you joking? Yes, yes, oh yeah, uh, I love as well. So they've done this thing on the Queens where all the Americans are all like in Australia, I'm gonna be so scared of all the bugs, and I'm like, good thing this was filmed in fucking Portugal. Did they think they were in Australia?

SPEAKER_01 25:27

Can we just I just that's great, that's so so great. But like it's actually um it's actually uh uh recorded in a Pacific atoll in the middle of the fucking ocean in a in a uh you know shipping cart carrier, you know. Is that okay?

SPEAKER_02 25:43

Wherever the best deal was made.

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Wherever the best tax break is.

SPEAKER_02 25:50

She is pushing the merch, she's pushing the single, she's here for the crown. I loved her mate the queens. I thought it was so funny. Yes. She was literally like ready to go. And I think, yeah, she's got like a tour, she's touring like Wollongong and Paramatter and shit when she's do you know what I mean? Like she will kill Wollongong so hard. She's like, I'm big in Australia now. Love. The show hasn't aired yet, and she's already like decided she's huge down under.

SPEAKER_01 26:18

I feel that she could do anything that she wants.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

Anything that she believes is true.

SPEAKER_02 26:25

Can't wait. I just hope she's not out so early. Like, I I I want her to be more than just a gag. You know? I think I worry.

SPEAKER_01 26:34

Well, I think well, I hope that that All Stars run gave her the taste of being like I think she was aware that she didn't have it all in that season. That she she was coming back after a really long time. So now she's been back, yeah. Maybe you know.

SPEAKER_02 26:48

Or she'll crash and burn and have a full That Means Nothing moment. Which I would also love. Also live for. Live. Yeah. Live and love. Stunning. Uh next up we are going to talk about Florr. Oh Florida. The gorgeous floor from Down Under Season 3. She came third. Uh, if you're a real one, you'll know that she before that was on uh Keter and Anita's House of Drag over in the world.

SPEAKER_01 27:17

Flora is a fantastic talent, like just really great. Oh, she's such a cunt. She she I love her. Was one of the only ones who really got to tell a good story during her season uh that they failed to latch on to as the producers of the show, to be honest.

SPEAKER_02 27:34

But like look, season three really was a missed opportunity. Yeah. Because you actually had like such a good cast. It was a good cast. Actually, really, really good. But then for some reason I think Rue fucked that one. I think she was in a weird place, she wasn't vibing with people. She didn't vibe with anyone. It's like she was that was clearly when she'd made up her mind that she wasn't no longer gonna host the show anymore. Yeah, and I think unfortunately the girls copped it. She did like Floor though, if I remember correctly. Yeah, yeah, she did. Yeah, yeah. She thought she was what it was one of those, you know, when she's like, You're so stupid. It was like that. Yeah, yeah. She loved Floor's character, you know, from Guatemala to New Zealand. Love it.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

And has I thought she then moved to London?

SPEAKER_02 28:22

Yes, she's currently living in the UK. Yeah. Yeah. So I love her Made the Queens video. She's giving us telenovela. She's also reminds us she was a top finisher. But this time, back to win.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

Love her. She's a she's a great, great queen. Uh obviously. I could see her at the end. Absolutely. Yeah. Like easily, like, you know, so we'll see how it plays out for for Flor. Flor.

SPEAKER_00 28:46

Flor.

SPEAKER_02 28:47

So good. I think she's putting on a character, which I love. And I think she's actually really sweet and lovable. Oh yeah. Do you think? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 28:57

Oh my god. Flor is so sweet. I mean, I met her, like, I went to Dragcon one year, which is such a weird thing to do, by the way. It's not, it's not, it's not my voice. But um I met Falor and uh adorable. Yeah. Like and teeny tiny teeny. Just adjust, but just great. Yep. No, I really like her.

SPEAKER_02 29:16

Alright, let's talk about Ms. La La Rie. Oh my god, fantastic. From uh season 13, where she plays 10th, and All Stars 8, where she plays 5th. And on that, I am just gonna quickly say, so clearly, because I've had this theory for a while, that if you're an American drag queen participating on a V The World, you have to have been on an All-Stars. It's correct.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

There's no one's ever been Wow, you've checked your uh future theory out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:45

So you have to have been on All-Stars to then go off to the world.

SPEAKER_01 29:50

It's like a graduation.

SPEAKER_02 29:51

Yeah, the world is like the next frontier after All-Stars. Well, I'll be. I think, correct me if I'm wrong, some fucking nerd's gonna comment being like this faggot doesn't know. Well, good, like come on stat nerd, bring it, bring it up. But I feel like that's a thing, but I it feel I get it.

SPEAKER_01 30:07

Yeah, I I that kind of makes sense. I think La La Ree is a pretty interesting choice. Obviously, so famous for her season with that design challenge. That I I think I referenced that probably, I reference that almost every season since it's oh iconic. Just her standing next to Utica in the sleeping bag couture. I will never get over that. Um, but I think she wasted her opportunity, I think, an all-stars that time. Um so but agree, but an amazing personality. And then did she quit drag for a bit? Alright, make that up. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 30:45

Uh I don't know. Did she do a lizzo and like threaten to quit drag? Maybe I feel like she's back. Uh third time's a charm, she says. And she's so fun. She's so so fun. Yeah. It doesn't even matter if it's. Oh, yeah, yeah. In her Meet the Queen, she says she had a break, but she's back and ready to give good drag. Which I say, please don't.

SPEAKER_01 31:06

I don't want to draw I don't want to see good drag. I want to see the bags bring it back. Did she bring it back? Did she bring it back at All Stars? Was that did she do that? I can't surely. I can't honestly it's a it's a mess in my mind.

SPEAKER_02 31:18

But um I don't remember All Stars 8, to be honest, but um I'm sure it was a fun time. Probably. Coco Jumbo is next from Down Under Season 1, where she incorrectly placed ninth. Insane. Did you believe that?

SPEAKER_01 31:35

Insane. If you've ever seen this diva do an RB track at like in drag, you you're just like, oh, you are on another level. Like Coco Jumbo is like just that proficient, brilliant queen. She knows what she's supposed to do in everyday drag life. She is just a consummate host. I I love Coco. So um I do her so much.

SPEAKER_02 32:03

I have a really fond memory of being on Oxford Street. This was like just after probably lockdowns had lifted or whatever, and we were up there and we were partying. I think it was around World Pride, actually. Anyway, we'd been at like one club on the strip. Yep. We'd seen her and Maxie. Oh my god. Um do a little like group number, like a duo number. And then it was to bewitched, like say laffy. And then we went to a bar across the street later on, and there those pictures were doing the same number at another bar in the same.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

Oh, you know, that is amazing. And I remember just that is very Sydney, isn't it?

SPEAKER_02 32:44

Like but obsessed. And I remember just like stopping her in the staircase and being like, Coco, I'm obsessed with you.

SPEAKER_01 32:51

I've seen Sailor V twice tonight.

SPEAKER_02 32:52

Yeah, yeah. And I've got drunk in selfies with Coco. She was so gracious. Love her.

SPEAKER_01 32:59

And and and special shout out to the Maxi Shield. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:02

Oh, my God. Love her. Rest in power. Yeah. Uh so Coco says she's here to reclaim the crown, which I'm like, I don't know. She this homie the queen. Love you, girl, but this homie the queen, she doesn't. I'm not believing it.

SPEAKER_01 33:14

She's she's very polite. She's when I re when I did the podcast with Coco, she was so beautifully polite and professional. I think that's her only so you know when you you're doing the sketches in in Drag Race, you have to be able to just like fucking let loose. That I think that's the only thing that stops her. It's like she's so professional, she's so put together, she so knows what she wants to do. And she's not someone who shit talks people. She's just she's not that that bitch, you know? And um, and so yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:44

She's got an interesting story too, because she says in this clip that she wasn't her full authentic self on Down Under Season 1. I can imagine, and that she's ready to give us the full experience now.

SPEAKER_01 33:56

And I'm like, I don't know. The Down Under One girls had so much pressure, I reckon. They had more pressure than anyone, and I think it was really hard for them to enjoy themselves in a lot of ways, especially the ones who had to fly over from Australia because I think it was more horrible, the isolation and what have you.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

Yeah, I I I like to this day, this is the fifth season of a drag race down under of of some sort, and it's changed along the way. Like, first we had Rue, then we lost Rue, now it's all stars. Not a single one of it has ever been in Australia.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

It is that wild remarkable. It's actually crazy. If you consider also the drag scene in Sydney, the drain in Melbourne, the drag scene in Brisbane. Like No, I'm not even thinking about the drag scene.

SPEAKER_02 34:44

I'm I'm also thinking about the television industry. It's insane! What a slap in the face to the television industry.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

Sydney, didn't Sydney reject it like during COVID? Or was that bullshit?

SPEAKER_02 34:56

I don't think that's ever been confirmed. I'm sorry, none like no one has any proof that happened. I would like I'm gonna Okay, this is me now promising this at some point in the pot in the future. I'm gonna do an investigative journalism style scene. The sleuth on Drag Race down that I sees a mum. And I'm gonna I'm gonna get full receipts stress on you, because we need to know. But no, I think I don't think that's what happened. Let's be real. Wow, the WOW machine found the best deal.

SPEAKER_01 35:28

I think so. That's what happened, right? Yeah, I I think so.

SPEAKER_02 35:32

It was just it was cheap to look that New Zealand dollar's even worse than Australian dollars, so like probably I also heard through the streets that the contract was for four seasons and an all-stars. And that's where we are right now. So if that's true, then this is it. But who knows?

SPEAKER_01 35:59

There could be future contracts being. Yeah things that they have to reach, you know. I mean, there's only so many films they can make with Rusty.

SPEAKER_02 36:10

Russell Crowe, and like the fact that it's owned by like Channel 9 and shit and that whole like fucked part of Australian media. It's like crazy to me that they even did this. But I like I love it. Yeah, I would love to see it come back without them. Oh I like I don't think we need No Stan SBS.

SPEAKER_01 36:30

Oh that uh money. No one's got money.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

At the moment, no.

SPEAKER_01 36:34

ABC ABC fuck everything up. No, oh shit. Well it's not keep that in.

SPEAKER_02 36:38

Like it's like, yeah, well, especially not the moment. I yeah. Anyway, the TLDR is like Australian media is a bit of a sinking ship at the moment. So I get it. So I just highly doubt we'll see any more. I just want us to see more. I d I think we deserve it. And as much as I love Michelle as the host, I was personally offended when RuPaul left. She is married to a motherfucking Australian.

SPEAKER_01 37:02

So it's like, I don't know. I was like, I also think Australia has Make it better. Australia has been really supportive of RuPaul's career from a very early a really early on.

SPEAKER_02 37:15

I've seen RuPaul perform on oh god, this is crazy. Yeah, I think it was 2012 at The Greyhound. That's crazy. R I page. That's crazy. She came and did a show. That's crazy. In drag she put drag on in front of people. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 37:32

That is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 37:33

That was awesome. That's amazing. Now none of those things exist anymore. But here we are talking about this weird fucking show. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 37:43

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:44

Oh, and next you're gonna tell me that Pauline Hansen's gonna be the Prime Minister.

SPEAKER_01 37:51

Truly. Pauline Pants down, just waiting in the wings.

SPEAKER_02 37:54

Oh, I love it. Can we get if she is not a guest judge this season?

SPEAKER_01 37:59

The thing about that dude, the person who does they did die? No. Right. He sees Pauline Pants down as a weapon that will be brought out at the appropriate moment in terms of the election.

SPEAKER_02 38:16

You sound like you know something.

SPEAKER_01 38:17

No, I just I just read in detail about what he was like, I oh no, I'm not supposed to be. He said, I'm not just bringing back Pauline pants down just for any old Chuck and Boleyn degree. No, no, he said I have to wait till when it's the most effective. Which I'm just like, oh my god. I just got like I'll try and find the um the Instagram post.

SPEAKER_02 38:41

Oh my god, but well, the world needs pulling pants down. Oh my god. Alright, Miss Jade So from Philippines season two, who came third on that season. Who's next? Holy shit. Yeah.

unknown 38:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:57

Smoking. It's unbelievable. The body odd yodis there, the godesification. The godesification. The dolification. I love her. She ate the promos. Yes. She looked the best, and I think she gave the best interview.

SPEAKER_01 39:13

She's just got that sass, right?

SPEAKER_02 39:15

That kind of it's giving what Gordland did in uh uh season whatever of UK versus the world. She rocked up to that and was like, okay, hold my fucking purse. Totally. Um I love this. She says, since season two of Philippines, I've been masturbating.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

That's like the best. I was like, I love her. Oh my god. That can that be your entry?

SPEAKER_02 39:42

I'm gonna say no, I want her to win. That is amazing. I don't care. Like, I've nothing patriotic here. I would actually it would actually be correct for a non-down under girly to win.

SPEAKER_01 39:56

Honestly, it would be such a reflection of her of our culture specifically. It's amazing. We're like, oh no, we're not gonna support ourselves. No, we want we want the overseas person to win.

SPEAKER_02 40:07

We want this bitch. Yeah, she's so good. So good. She says that the Filipino girls don't get many opportunities like this outside of their franchise, so she's not gonna fuck it up. That's great. That's great stuff. Um yeah, she says she says she's there to take Michelle's taint. And I was like, Oh, that's right. That's brilliant. And to spread the goddessation agenda.

SPEAKER_00 40:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 40:35

Sign me the fucker.

SPEAKER_01 40:36

Spread. Spread.

SPEAKER_02 40:39

How do you think she's gonna do?

SPEAKER_01 40:40

Oh, it's so hard to say. It's all, yeah, who knows? It's so hard to say. She's gonna look good. And uh She's gonna give us great television, I can guarantee you. I think so. I think she's gonna be quick and fierce and but it's really hard to say.

SPEAKER_02 40:54

If she's bringing all the like those Asian girls, I'm sorry, they take her to another place.

SPEAKER_01 40:58

They can take her to another fucking level.

SPEAKER_02 40:59

They're pulling like fireworks and shit out of their pussy.

SPEAKER_01 41:05

Come on. Yeah, no, I mean pangina. I mean, like I can see her comfortably at the end, but also who the fuck knows? I think uh we'll just have to see what the uh the challenges are. Yeah. Are there gonna be a lot of acting challenges? Will things get lost in translation? They're not good at translating some of that stuff, uh, which is annoying because it's a national international show, but you know, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

SPEAKER_02 41:30

So are we assuming that a lot of new brand new viewers that have never would never fuck with Down Under are gonna come and watch this? A to see Michelle host, because they might not have watched season before. B for like Raven.

SPEAKER_01 41:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:46

But there's a there's a few there there's Raven and then there's Nicole. There's a few little tidbits that if you just say, like if you're like, you know, like I know like younger drag race queens who are they're coming in from the other side of it.

SPEAKER_02 41:57

And will this bitch is bringing the young girlies that love the Filipino dragon?

SPEAKER_01 42:01

So like a 20-year-old right now be like, I love Nicole Page books, I love blah blah blah. Oh Raven, you know, like you don't know.

SPEAKER_02 42:07

Like I I would love to see it do well. I really would. Me too. I think oh come on, let's let's do it. Um Nikita Iman is next. Oh, this was yes, yes. I think this was like my biggest, like yes.

SPEAKER_01 42:22

The charisma of Nikita Iman was just off the chain during her season. It was it was the real surprise packet of the season of just being like, oh, you're not only just like fabulous, you are also a grey drag queen, and she did some really moving stuff as well as being hilarious.

SPEAKER_02 42:44

Love. She was oh good, she was our confessional queen so good last season.

SPEAKER_01 42:50

She really like never seen anyone be like, I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_02 42:56

I fell in love with her. Yeah, she you're right, she had legit moments where she was just like, I don't know. What I mean, whatever. Really? She's too cool to be there.

SPEAKER_01 43:03

Which I've never seen on Drag Race before. Someone being a bit like sort of indifferent about it. I was like, wow.

SPEAKER_02 43:10

But also, what a what a drag queen. Yeah. She's feeling more puss than last time she tells us. And I love that she tells us she's a b ballroom girly, and the fucking cat did you clock this on the Instagram? The captions said borroom, like B. Oh my god. It's the Kiwi accent. It was like B Oh my god. I was like, no, that is brilliant. Anyway, that's brilliant. Uh yeah. So I'm here for her. She's here to get paid, she's here to be a kitty cat.

SPEAKER_01 43:42

Look, sell those tickets. I I I I don't know how Nikita's gonna go, to be honest. But like I every second is a bit of a gift. If if she brings it the way that she brought it and uh that hasn't become too effective, yeah, yeah. Which I don't think the Kiwi Queens, it's I don't think it's possible. Yeah, honestly, they are so down to earth. Like uh I I am excited.

SPEAKER_02 44:03

All right, let's talk about Michael Marley. Another one. So from you. UK season five was the runner-up of that season. Right. Was that Chyron? No, who won? Hang on.

SPEAKER_01 44:16

Was that one of those ones where you know there's been a couple of um UK's season where they the winner you're like, oh that's right, because there's been a lot of Oh no, it was Ginger.

SPEAKER_02 44:24

Sorry. That was next. It was Ginger Johnson's season, which I was a bit shook by. I actually I thought Michael was gonna win.

SPEAKER_01 44:32

Or could could have. Certainly the the character and the charisma all there. I really like this queen. So I'm Love her.

SPEAKER_02 44:43

Because this season wasn't great from memory. It was a bit of a This was the no and that show is fantastic. Like I like UK's probably the best one we have. So for that season to not be great, it's still great, but just like it didn't quite punch as hard.

SPEAKER_01 45:00

It's hard because like you have those seasons where it's like biminy and all that sort of stuff. Yeah, totally. Like they they triple stacked. It's it's it's tricky, you know, to I I think UK hit a very high standard early on after a shaky start.

SPEAKER_02 45:13

Doesn't she like live in Spain? Michael Murley's the real trashy one that like lives in Abitha or something. No, that's why I was like obsessed with her. I'm like, yeah, or like Canary Islands or something. And I'm just like, I love this. She's like classic, yeah, like rough as guts British man that like slaps on some lippy and all of a sudden looks gorgeous. I love a man in a dress.

SPEAKER_01 45:34

Oh great, and so I I kind of really do miss it sometimes with Drag. I'm like, no, where are my busted boys at?

SPEAKER_02 45:42

Thank you. We need uh yeah, she's she's back to give us more Geordy flavour. Um she says some said she was robbed, which yes, I do remember that feeling. Um she's been busy, she casually drops a few things she's been doing. She's been a Mac girl, she's performed with Cindy Laupa. Oh I was like, great. Girls just want to have fun. She just wants to have a little bit of fun. Right. And she's here for the AU gigs. She's plan, she's planned a tour of the continent. I got look, there's there's not much money going around at the moment.

SPEAKER_01 46:17

I hope people can afford to go to these gigs. Because like, you know, the the the the the the they come through and you're like, oh fuck, you know.

SPEAKER_02 46:25

This is one of the casting choices. Well, I was like, this is perfect for down under. She fits our sensibility because she's funny, yeah, she's gorgeous, she's rough. Um, yeah, plus you can do it a good Aussie accent. She does it in the thing. She has a line from Muriel God bless wedding. I was like, all right.

SPEAKER_00 46:43

More referencing of Muriel.

SPEAKER_02 46:44

You can stay. Yeah. And yeah, he to finish what she started. Yet another runner up. So it's like, yeah. It's runner up central.

SPEAKER_01 46:52

Which is, I guess, a good, it's a good story thing because you're just like, I want to win. I was so close. As a yeah, that that is kind of cool, you know. Totally. Yeah. Alright, next up is VAB. VAB. The way Vibe says vibe is such a va. So her and Coco doing it together is wild. Sisters. They are sisters and they can make themselves look like twins. Yep. It's crazy. So I they they are very, very close. Yep. So they'll definitely, I feel they'll there's no way that there's not going to be an alliance between Vibe and Coco.

SPEAKER_02 47:31

I love it for them. I can't wait to see all those because for me, like, it's very Sydney drag scene. That they're very clicky there. They're very they've set that, you know, they've worked really fucking hard in their clubs along the strip and they're all crazy how hard. They're fucking family. So we get to see that. Um, and I hope it yeah, I hope that's a good thing. I don't know. Could like bite them in the ass. Who knows? They'll be tested. Yeah. The show always tests those. Oh, they'll put it I can already tell you now they'll be lip syncing against each other at some point. They have to. They always do that when there's sisters involved. Uh, of course, in her Meet the Queens, she sh throws shade at Lazy, who she came runner up to. Pretty crazy to go on a show not that long ago, lose to someone and then come back for an all-star. Fuck that bitch.

SPEAKER_01 48:25

I think it's great. I mean, uh, yeah, but vibe is so fun. Yeah. Really good at the sketch kind of side of things, if I remember correctly.

SPEAKER_02 48:35

Hilarious, great looks, really great confessionals, like really good on the show. Yeah. I think she's a big contender to win this season. Well, yeah. Could be. Look, she was very confident in her season. I don't think we've ever had a winner from Sydney. No. Because it was Kiwis and then Isis and Lazy. Yeah. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:57

Which it's it's probably not. I'm sure they have noticed that.

SPEAKER_02 49:03

Let's just say I would love Sydney to have a crown. It's not that they don't.

SPEAKER_01 49:08

It's Sydney. It's like the fucking Mecca. What are we talking about down under fucking drag? What the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 49:18

If anyone's doing it, it's VAB.

SPEAKER_01 49:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 49:20

Um she reminds us she's Campy Queen. Yeah. She calls new artists trash. That's great. In her clip, it says that she only loves the old school divas. She loves a good fist punch. What else does she say? Yeah, she she got a lot in there. She also was like throwing shade at the show, which I love. She's like, look, if I don't win this, I'll come back for Slovenia versus Iceland or something. And I was like, Oh my god. Yes, bitch. Read read the hand that feeds you. So good. Yeah. I'll be shocked if she's not in the finale.

SPEAKER_01 49:54

Look, I yeah. Look, it's it's a pretty good crop of queens.

SPEAKER_02 49:58

I say that, but yeah, I've been saying that about everyone. I know you have been saying that about everyone, so I don't know. Alright, next is Estrella of Extravaganza. Ooh. From Drag Race His Spana season two. Two. Right. I was trying to remember which season. Which I did watch, but I can't remember. And she was also a fucking runner-up, and she's another comedy girly. Great. So it's like great. How good. She's here to snatch our hearts. Um do it. Yeah. She reminds us how huge the Spanish drag scene is. It's all about the performance, the humour. I again I think she was perfectly selective for this show.

SPEAKER_01 50:33

Have you seen drag in Spain?

SPEAKER_02 50:35

Yes. Oh my gosh. And it's amazing. Yeah, of course. Of course. They really, yeah, they've they take it all so seriously, but in the best way. Yeah. Like, yeah. Fantastic. They get into it. Nightlife in Spain is fucking unrivaled.

SPEAKER_01 50:48

They're like, oh, do you want to like uh just go and dance and drink sangria till like three o'clock in the morning in this like kind of cave bar? You're like, okay. That's when they get started. It's I know it's good stuff.

SPEAKER_02 51:01

Oh, yeah. I've um expect good things. It's always fun, like, because she's one of the girlies that's coming from a non-English language season. So I always love to see, like, yeah, if it can translate if it does, like, uh, you know, because they've got an extra hurdle.

SPEAKER_01 51:14

Yeah. And we'll see how the American girlies do. Because one of the fun things about all these verses of the world is the American girlies navigating their Americanness. Yes. Now I feel like the the the ones that we have in this season may be more worldly than some of the ones we've had in the past. True, true.

SPEAKER_02 51:34

Or maybe not. We'll see. We'll see. I don't know if uh you know what they can't do the translation.

SPEAKER_01 51:38

You're like, yes, sidewalk and footpath. You can't like do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 51:42

Like you're like, we do this all the time. Then like Miss Philippines is here just like slaying and not complaining about it.

SPEAKER_01 51:50

They're like, where's the Philippines? It's like, listen to sit down.

SPEAKER_02 51:53

Very, yeah. No, I yeah, high hopes for her, but also, yeah, I can't remember. It was a while ago that season, I can't remember her. But but great. Love, bring, bring. Let's talk about Raven, season two, and All Stars One. All Stars One. I know. That's funny. Run her up. That's Galore. This I I know and that was the Pears one, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:18

That was the Pears one. Was that the Pears one? Yeah. Yeah. I look it up. I I look that that All-Stars. Um I I have the I have a very special place in my house for those early all-stars. Um, you know, the um just just everything about it because they came. There was a significant amount of time that would pass between like the season and then like getting a fucking all-stars. And all-stars one was like, we are blazing the trailer. If I remember correctly, yeah, it was almost not well received. No, it wasn't. People hated the And then that and then it was season two where people were like, but Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:55

And it took, and then this is back when they didn't do it every five seconds. Um yeah. Oh my god, when she said in this promo video that she is ethnically ambiguous or something along those sides. What did she say? No, no, no, she didn't say that. Can you be a- She said she was fiercely tan. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 53:15

She really is. And I went when she the photos of her next to Rue and she's the same shade or darker. I think yeah. And you're like, ah.

SPEAKER_02 53:26

Well when she's when she's putting in the orders for that foundation, she just one for you, one for me, perhaps.

SPEAKER_01 53:35

I know. Every now and then I get the wrong shade of foundation, and then I'm like, She says she's here to compete because why not?

SPEAKER_02 53:42

And you know, she was runner up twice, so yeah. Got even the go. These look we barely talked about these fucking looks, I'm sorry. But her and Nicole Page Brooks wearing exactly the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 53:54

They were. That was hilarious. That got picked up straight away on the websites around the world. Uh I saw that. Like, uh, yeah, that was going. How did that even happen?

SPEAKER_02 54:04

That's why I'm just like, this doesn't feel right. Uh like what happened here? Yeah I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 54:10

Was there another queen booked who dropped out at the last seven?

SPEAKER_02 54:17

Which feels weird.

SPEAKER_01 54:19

I know. We were trying to do the maths before and I was like counting. I'm like, ten plus blah blah. I don't know. I still think it's a gag.

SPEAKER_02 54:25

I my money is on it's a gag. Changeler in the box. Yeah, a reverse box where she's not she was never participating.

SPEAKER_01 54:33

Yeah, um as long as it's not Art Simone in the box, then I'm fine with that. Um, I would love her to be a proper competitor who's competing for the I think that would be amazingly humble of her as well. That's why I don't buy it. That's why I guess it doesn't seem right because you're like, Why do you why would you why would you bother? Like, you know, in some ways. Like you've but you know she does all the gags. She was in she might be launching a makeup line. She might be like, there might be some reasoning behind it, you know.

SPEAKER_02 55:07

True. I think my tinfoil hat on is like they were there on the day, and they were like, How are we gonna get people to fucking watch this mess? And then they were like, Do you wanna pretend to be on the show? And she was like, sure.

SPEAKER_01 55:25

But why would she be there? Okay, why would she be there? That's because it doesn't matter. You're gonna fly Raven all the way in for a gag. I mean, okay, maybe it's only like maybe it's worth it, but is it?

SPEAKER_02 55:44

I don't know. We'll find out unless she's doing very soon.

SPEAKER_01 55:48

Unless she's doing Michelle's makeup. She could be. I've never heard of that, but you know, it could be. You would think she would say.

SPEAKER_02 55:57

We're gonna fucking find out. She says the other queens will be scared of her, which I'm sorry. I think that's correct.

SPEAKER_01 56:02

Like when they know how close you are to the sun, they're gonna be so like, what does Rue think about this? Yeah. Does Rue know who I am? It's crazy too, yeah. Because it's like, mmm. I I mean I yeah, look, I I'm gonna gasp either way, I think. Yeah, yeah. Which is kind of cool.

SPEAKER_02 56:21

Either way, people are gonna be talking about it. It's gonna get a lot of eyeballs on it. So, like, well done. If it is going to get people watching, well done, I think it's already worked. It has. Um If it's real, wow, okay. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 56:33

I don't know anything is possible with Dragon's Universe.

SPEAKER_02 56:36

I just don't, I just can't see her winning. I think there'd be too much uh people would be like uh about it if she didn't.

SPEAKER_01 56:43

I can't see her winning, and mainly because she is I've said this before about people. She's a little too cool to win. Do you know what I mean? Like she's a little too like that's a little bit too much.

SPEAKER_02 56:53

Oh, I don't think she cares about. I think she's she's booked and blessed. She doesn't care about the but her and Nicole Page Brooks in this same look. It's like they both went, oh construction worker, I'll do like a pussycat dolls, like Fifth Harmony.

SPEAKER_01 57:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 57:09

Which does make sense with Nicole.

SPEAKER_01 57:11

Yes. I that the this other bitch, I'm just like Raven. Yeah. Like, come on. But we'll see.

SPEAKER_02 57:19

Who ate the promo looks-wise for you? I know we didn't really touch on them all, but I don't know. They were a bit of a mess. Like, some didn't. I liked it in the in the full edit.

SPEAKER_01 57:31

I think it was like quick and blah blah and it was effective. Yeah. If I'm starting to really break down those looks, they're always really hard because they're not really their looks. I know. No, no. I don't know. I never know because I'm like, what is this? And then all of a sudden there'll be like one that's really like odd, and you'll think, why is sh why did she do that look? Yeah. That doesn't make any sense, you know. So sometimes it really doesn't reflect the queen at all.

SPEAKER_02 57:55

I liked floors with the she had like lights on her titties.

SPEAKER_01 57:58

Floor was fun.

SPEAKER_02 58:00

Um Nikita Iman also had lights on her titties, but it was like and sort of like Grace Jones like flat top hair. That was fun.

SPEAKER_01 58:08

Um Coco looked good, if I remember.

SPEAKER_02 58:11

Yep. Vibe had reflectors.

SPEAKER_01 58:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 58:15

But also, I don't know if she nailed it.

SPEAKER_01 58:19

I don't think it's the easiest material or anything really to are they gonna make them walk on stage, like as they're opening.

SPEAKER_02 58:29

Well, who knows? We'll see. Will we get this new set? Ah, I hope they get to walk into the workroom.

SPEAKER_01 58:34

I reckon.

SPEAKER_02 58:35

I fucking hate that they did that. Like Which one is that they do the stage? Is that oh that is a virtual? It's you versus the world. It is a version. They are gonna do that. Oh because they've got this new set and everything, maybe not. Yeah, you're right. I know it's the dumbest thing to be annoyed about, but I don't like it either.

SPEAKER_01 58:50

I just feel like it's a tradition that we they could uphold. Yeah, you know, um, and you say your line.

SPEAKER_02 58:57

Well, that's the other thing. What are the rules gonna be? We don't know. Is it gonna be a vote out six? Do you want to see that?

SPEAKER_01 59:03

Oh my I kinda hope it is. Maybe. Because that's gonna really test them. Because I feel like they're gonna be pretty congenial. I don't think it's gonna be cunty.

SPEAKER_02 59:13

The down under girls, there's what, five of them?

SPEAKER_01 59:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:16

That's yeah, they're gonna have to have to try and knock out a couple of things straight off the bat.

SPEAKER_01 59:21

It could it could be the thing.

SPEAKER_02 59:22

I hope it is that because I think that'll be fun. Watching and oh, and like watching art do that and like oh my god. I know it's gonna be oh this could be honestly like one for the history books, folks.

SPEAKER_01 59:34

I really hope so. Like I'm really uh excited and I'm I'm ready to to see all the guest judges and everything. It's gonna be exciting.

SPEAKER_02 59:42

Yeah. Oh well, one more sleep. One more sleep till Drag Race down under versus the world. And we might get you back on the pod at the end of the season. Yeah, call me out. I would love that. Call me out. Come back for the finale, baby.

SPEAKER_01 59:56

Yeah, I'd I'd love to talk about it. We'll do so much to talk about the whole season. Ugh. Alright, let's do it. I'll see you. Heaven. Okay. Bye. Bye.