The Traitors Australia - Season 3 Week 2 (w/ Mark Warnock)

Sexy bald man and Survivor legend Mark Warnock joins Sam via satellite to chit chat about this insanely fun week of The Traitors Australia season 3! Episodes 3 and 4 have drift wood, Coolio quotes, people taking things personally and Sam can’t even keep track of who Keira hates lol. Are the Survivor players digging their own camp graves? Will Dicko get a new outfit from the Gazman sale? That and some Race Around The World chat.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:07

This podcast was produced on the land of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation. Welcome to Australia. Ozzy, ozzy, ozzy. Someone who is such a connoisseur of reality television. The content is hideous.

SPEAKER_00 0:24

So sorry about this. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 0:28

Not only is he hot, but he's smart too. It's Survivor Daddy Mark Warnock. Welcome back to The Cringes Real. Thank you very much for having me. Look at you. You're looking very schmick. Where are you, my friends? Look, I'm may I may or may not be secluded in a private villa in the south of Sri Lanka, but you didn't hear it from me.

SPEAKER_01 0:51

Yeah, no, no. Like if anyone from work's listening, he's definitely just working from home.

unknown 0:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:56

This call is fancy background.

SPEAKER_02 1:00

I noticed you've also cracked open a beer.

SPEAKER_01 1:02

So cheers. Cheers. Cheers to you. Yeah. No, it's uh end of a work day for me. So um, you know, I've been watching the traders during the week, going to work during the day, trying to concentrate on my job, but uh my mind is wandering to the castle. So yeah, very happy to be here.

SPEAKER_02 1:20

Incredible. I've got to say, it does feel very race around the world of me, zooming in from um an exotic location. Did you watch Race Around the World on ABC?

SPEAKER_01 1:32

Uh no, I haven't, but I know No, I haven't. Tell me about it. Would you like it?

SPEAKER_02 1:37

It was amazing, it's just finished. Uh-huh. I've got to say, like, I just I can't believe more people aren't talking about this show.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

This is sort of what they make make the show, like their TV producers whilst traveling.

SPEAKER_02 1:49

They're they're young, aspiring filmmakers. It was a show in the 90s. Um, it's where where John Saffron was first. Oh, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah. And they've they brought it back with Zanro as the host and a cast of incredible guest judges, including Margaret Pomerance. Oof. Um, who is just a fucking icon. Isn't she? Lily Chin and Margaret Pomerance. Bring them back. Those two of them together. That's heaven. But but uh you just when you think about like parasocial relationships, I feel like I know these six young filmmakers, like they are my best friends. It the show took me on a journey. You're literally in six different countries every episode, and you watch their three-minute short films. It's a delight, it's really wholesome fucking viewing, and everyone needs to go watch it.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

Okay, um, I'm I'm doing it. I'll I'll report back to you via the D via the DFs.

SPEAKER_02 2:44

Yeah, I think you'll love it. Uh, but um the castle though is now is now cooling. Or the what is it? The mana.

SPEAKER_01 2:53

The manor, the Gretel's Gretel, Gret Gretel's graveyard.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

Gretel Colleen better win the fucking gold logie for this performance.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

No, she she is smashing it, and what I love about Gretel is that it's the perfect Rorschach test. Like, I think you love her, I love her, my parents still hate her. Oh, do they really? Yeah, so I've been like just like the general, they're just like not the sort of people that that that vibe with Gretel. And so I think it's really funny. So I've been on the DMs to my parents being like, hey, watch the traders, and they're like, You're not gonna go on it, are you? I'm like, definitely not. Uh no, don't say that. No, it's more about a long-running gag with my parents that I've um, you know, done reality TV. And then I'm like, what do you think of Gretel? And they're like, Oh, we can't stand her. Whereas everyone that I know is like, obviously, Gretel is slaying it. So uh yeah, yeah, love Gretel.

SPEAKER_02 3:51

Um, so your parents are like my parents then, and they think reality TV is the devil.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

Yeah, pretty much, which is my way they would say the devil. But but then they've had to face the fact that their own son has gone on it twice, and so they have to find some way of justifying, like, okay, you know, Gretel's bad, but like survivors are a sophisticated show, so you know whereas your parents are just like, what is Sam doing in his spare time in his private villa and shit like that?

SPEAKER_02 4:19

Oh my god, I love the idea that of you pitching to your parents, like, I went on this show, it's like a documentary about Australians that get stranded on a beach.

SPEAKER_01 4:30

Yeah, and there's a guy named Don.

SPEAKER_02 4:32

Yeah, all right. We have so fucking much to talk about. So let's just jump in to episode three. This week was wild. Like this week, I thought last week was incredible, and then this week has like really ramped up the ridiculousness. Um, I think I think uh Chrissy and Gamble are really adding the layer of camp that I needed from the housewives.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

Yeah, yeah. I'm I'm really partial to Chrissy. Like, I think Gamble is bringing like unintentional comedy, which is great. Like Kosimoa is an all-time trace of Australian moment. Like the the stun, but it's the stunned look in the face where she she like she was listening, she's like, okay, I need to listen to people. She said that I've spelled her name wrong. I'll just say, I don't know. Like, simple as that. Like that's that's just so that's just only Gamble can do it. But I really like Chrissy, like the way she like flipped on her dime, uh, and you know, tried to like rip Rachel's heart out of her chest. Um, that was that was really fun.

SPEAKER_02 5:41

So do take it personal. Do take it personal.

SPEAKER_01 5:45

Do take it. Did she correct herself as well? I don't mean it personally. Actually, I do.

SPEAKER_02 5:50

Actually, do you know what? Let's choose miles. All right, let's start at this breakfast on episode three, where um your good friend AJ walks in wearing a uh very interesting hat. How do you feel about AJ this week? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 6:06

Well, like, you know, you can choose to go two ways in these games. AJ's chosen one way, which is to like play a proper, you know, proper game. Whereas Henry's just chosen to he's been in, he's been on the bench for years. Um, I don't know what he does. I think he's a teacher.

SPEAKER_02 6:24

He's a school teacher.

SPEAKER_01 6:25

And now he's come out, he's a school teacher. Yeah, and he's come out and he's having fun. So I think you gotta go. I would personally go the Henry route, as we all saw earlier this year. Um, but I think that I think I think that AJ, he knows that he's gotta zhuz it up, but he's not quite sure. He can't dress as like a poker up like the dealer, you know, every night. So he's gotta find an outfit that works. And I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 6:49

Outfits are killing me. They are killing me because where you see him in, you know, nothing on a beach, which like is fine. Yeah, but now that he's in clothing, I'm like, oh no, this is this is not okay. What would your look be on the traders? Well, I would go I would demand uh similar stylist to Gretel, and I would need themed outfits every day that grow and change throughout the day like Gretels do.

SPEAKER_01 7:15

Uh-huh. Uh and then you'd monologue at the cast about like the uh motivations for your actors of the day.

SPEAKER_02 7:20

What would you wear? Because we're not used to seeing you in clothing on TV either.

SPEAKER_01 7:24

Oh, well, you know, I I've you know, I I think I think it actually fits for me. Just wear suits, different colours suits, jacket, blazers, um, you know, the diplomat thing. Like it's it kind of. I think I think that would work quite well for me, actually.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

Dicko is wearing like the one blazer, and it's just giving like uncle at a wedding that got a last minute invite and was like, oh shit, oh, I've got that one blazer, I'll just chuck it on.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

My favorite Gazman outfit, you know, got it 30% off.

SPEAKER_02 7:54

Dicko went to Gazman and said, All right, I'm going on this show. Don't care about hunting traitors, I just want to be onto the telly. Costamoa might be there.

SPEAKER_01 8:07

He's and he's like, I better loosen up before I go on the show. I'll do my favorite drunk, LSD, from the 70s, you know. I love Diko. I hold on. Do you want to do we want to do a cast like hot like who's your faves, or you want to go through the episode?

SPEAKER_02 8:23

Tell me your faves.

SPEAKER_01 8:24

I love I think that Diko's bringing it, and the reason why is that um as a famous he's like one of the more famous people, I suppose, yeah, you know, on the show. But he's committing, like he's gone and like read the textbooks, you know, and he's been on the city.

SPEAKER_02 8:39

He's committing crimes, he's committing television crimes, and uh I think it's actually great because it's disruption, but it is making me very angry. I think people that are pure, like people that want to watch gameplay, will be very angry at Dico's decision to not play the game.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

I think that he's asked his nephew to log into his Reddit account for him, and so then he can go through the comments and ask and like see what like the nerds think. But at his core, Dico is a is a reality TV host. He hosted Survivor and he hosted the track.

SPEAKER_02 9:17

Do we count and do we count that season of Survivor? Come on.

SPEAKER_01 9:21

Absolutely, absolutely not, but in his mind, he's watched the greatest uh whoever it was that played that season, some rob guy. I don't know what it was.

SPEAKER_02 9:32

Wasn't like Imogen Bailey. Remember when she was a celebrity? I think it was people like that.

SPEAKER_01 9:38

It's a stretch, but I think that Dicko has like tapped into that era and he's bringing that energy. And I kind of like it, and he's giving cult leader leader. And I don't mind a little cult leader action, like I'd rather be the cult leader than the lame henchman, like the twins are, you know? So um I I I'm really I'm really surprised that Dicko has like put himself out there because he actually has you know somewhat of a reputation. But um, yeah, anyway, that's my thoughts on Dicko. Yeah, I'm glad he's doing it, but I don't think he's gonna last.

SPEAKER_02 10:10

Yeah, yeah. So it's the beginning of the end for Henry at this breakfast. He walks in and he suss on Kirby, he's watching Kirby like a hawk. She goes, Oh, what what's that twin's name? And then a twin goes, oh sorry, what what was her name? And Henry's like, there it is, done and dusted. I've just I've just won the game. Uh, it's Kirby and the twins. I know. I mean, poor baby girl.

SPEAKER_01 10:39

Yeah, poor baby Henry. I like I think he's been great. I think he's did well to catch Kirby, and then he's trying to follow the scent.

SPEAKER_02 10:47

Um, he needed to do Kirby and then full stop, like Kirby, full stop. But and even he even got that advice. Was it right? No, some reasons. They were all like, mate, maybe just do the one name because doing three is very violent.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

I violent, outrageous, but I think that Henry's motivation in his head is he wants he wanted to have the Annabelle moment that we all want, that we all dream of, which is to sit there at the round table and correctly identify all the traders. Yeah, and be and be the ultimate, um, the being the ultimate star. So I think he was just like, you know what, screw the full stop. Let's go exclamation mark and try to Annabelle. I'm not mad about it. He made great telly. Um, it would have been so boring if we didn't have Henry. Let's just say it. Like this week would have been so boring. Um, so yeah, I think he did, but also the twins, maybe the twins were just annoying him, and he was just like, that's enough, that's enough evidence for me. The twins the twins, can we get rid of it?

SPEAKER_02 11:49

Truly, the twins should be thanking Henry because without him, they would have zero screen time because I'm sorry, they had the combined personality of a piece of cardboard. Um, and like Henry bringing it attention to them is at least putting them on the show.

SPEAKER_01 12:05

Yeah, yeah, they should write on the card and say thanks. I don't know who's gonna do it next.

SPEAKER_02 12:09

Yeah, so poor Manaki is murdered for being loud and right, and I was fucking devastated. Here I was thinking we're gonna get this whole season of party boy Monarchy, um, but gone too soon, and also it continues the trend of queer on queer violence.

SPEAKER_01 12:26

I know, yeah. Look, I think Manaki has a future in Australian Survivor. I think because he's giving Oh yeah, no, what are you talking about? Oh, I mean, I want to see it. No, but he like he's like Luke Toki, but better, and he's really big, he's fit, he's funny, he's right, and people and people are like, oh, like they were connecting with him. Yeah, Monaki, gone too soon. But yeah, you know what? Kirby Kirby, it's so interesting watching Kirby play again, you know. Oh, yeah, because she's so good, like she's so good.

SPEAKER_02 13:01

Getting on thin eyes out, Kirby.

SPEAKER_01 13:04

I think Kirby in this season, she's like uh she's like Will Smith. It's like get my name out your mother effing mouth, and if you say it, you're gone. And it's great.

SPEAKER_02 13:14

Oh, she's giving big dick energy this season. I'm like, she's just like completely unbothered, as per usual, but like it's even better in this game. Um, we need to talk about Kosama. So she goes, Um, look, Monaki's gone. Uh, who were the six? Monarchy named this the six, not the musical six, but the six people that were identified as uh being in the billiard room or wherever the fuck they were. Uh so uh instead of people going, yes, let's follow those breadcrumbs, they're all like Kosama, shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_01 13:52

Shut the fuck up. Like, who even are you? You're under Dico's thumb. Yeah, I know. That was a like that's one of those ones when the players watch it back, they're gonna go, Oh wow, you know, like they're gonna go, oh whoops, get in the uh the Instagram comments, oops, sorry, Cosmola.

SPEAKER_02 14:13

I don't know if these players will care, to be honest, but um, we'll see. So Gretel enters dressed in fur and hints at a heavyweight challenge. Um but in LSD world, Rob and Dicko have a strat chat. Um LSD, we've got to say LSD, it's giving Survivor Alliance name. Could be one of yours.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

Um it's very if Dico and I need to go on a little workshop. It's no uh it's no head office, but uh it's no head office, and it's also like completely incorrect because it's not secret at all. He's literally like got it tattooed on his forehead.

SPEAKER_02 14:53

There are once you enter, once you enter, he tells everyone, well, by the end of this week, everyone knows about it. Oh my god. Uh, but Rob convinces Dicko to actually play the game for five seconds and vote Kirby at this point. So I'm like, nice work, Rob. Rob is giving two IC um to Dicko, who's actually sort of doing all of the work because Dico does not want to do any work.

SPEAKER_01 15:19

Yeah, he's hand Dicko's like, pass me the tools, and Rob's like, oh uh, the flathead, you know. No, I said the Phillips head, you idiot. Okay, sorry, boss. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

What is the criteria for joining LSD? Is it literally like you just have a conversation with Dicko and he goes, Oh Rob, yeah, you like my gas man suit? Hey, you want to join, you want to join my gang?

SPEAKER_01 15:45

Oh, yeah, I mean it's uh yeah, literally, you just it's it's that simple. But that kind of checks out. It's like you know, imagine Diko going to the barbecue and he's like, You're closest to the eskey, pass me a beer, and you're my best, and you're my best friend, you know? Like uh that's probably the extent of it. So crazy.

SPEAKER_02 16:02

Let's talk about this first mission. So it was the monolithic structure. I loved Gretel telling us that um so well firstly, she quotes her dear friend Coolio, which was Coolio, incredible. Then she tells us that was it her life coach or her bank manager sadly past, and in order to um give solace to her past soul, we need to carry a palanquin chair throughout this fucking cliff face, and along the way, people are sacrificed. Uh which again, Dico was making all the decisions here, which I found highly frustrating, but great television.

SPEAKER_00 16:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:42

And then they get to the final post, and there is a hooded figure tied to a pole, which sounds like My Friday night, not gonna lie. And what the fuck did you think about this insane decision to leave poor Cam behind and the 10K? Like, low key, I loved it because Camoved so much. It's also so Survivor because who was it Henry? Who was there at this point? It was like Henry, eight, it was H. All the boys and Kirby, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:18

All the boys in Kirby, yeah, and and Kira, I think, because no one's gonna tell her what to do with her palinquin. She's still got a like dictionary out. Palanquin? What the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 17:28

Was she holding it though? She was sort of just like next to it. Her hands were like near it.

SPEAKER_01 17:33

She was making it look good. Who cares? Um, like I could I love Kira.

SPEAKER_02 17:38

We need to just quickly, but I'm obsessed. And I feel so bad because I met her at the premiere event, and because I don't watch was she on The Bachelor? Yeah, I don't fucking watch that show, so I was like, eh, I'll leave her. And now I'm like, oh my god, I could have kikied with her all night.

SPEAKER_01 17:58

Anyway, filled with regret. Yeah, you could have you could have volunteered yourself to be tied to a pole in a hood. Um anyway, no, like I just think it's fun because it's savage. Like every yeah, like the strategy, blah, blah, blah, like whatever. But Cam, Cam is the I mean, like, he's just a nice guy. Like, do we really want Cam? Like, he he seems like a lovely person.

SPEAKER_02 18:21

Does he? And that's the that's my problem, is that like to go on maths as a man and have the world love you? I'm like, that's not allowed. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

Yeah, but I mean, like, I honestly don't care. Like, I like I just didn't care about him. And so then I just kind of when he started like having a go at Henry for like, you're all you've got it all wrong, mate.

SPEAKER_02 18:41

I'm just like, I was like, the boys' club of it all, the twins being like, oh, that's our mate, and he didn't get a fair go. I was like, shut up, like, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

I know, I know. Honestly, I was just I just was I just thought it was funny that he didn't get a go, and um twice, and uh so um, yeah. So no no love lost for Cam. Bye.

SPEAKER_02 19:07

Yeah, apparently he's still salty, and to that I say, get over it, so yeah, apparently I'm gonna be listening. Things online. Hey Cam. Hey Cam, love you. Um on the car on the way back, Henry goes, I'm blowing up the whole turret. Yeah, I know who the traders are. He's yeah, wow. He wants to burn the place to the ground. Um and AJ does not love this for the reputation of the survivor players. What do you think about that? Would would you be so inclined?

SPEAKER_01 19:43

I reckon, I reckon you just gotta go for it. Like, what if you're a trader, right? If you're a trader, you're racked with you know worry and guilt and you're trying not to lie, right? Whereas if you're a faithful, Monarchy's gone, Queen, what a legend, gone. Just have a crack. Like the odds of getting to the end and being right are so low. It's crazy. Yeah, like they regenerate. So what? So what you could get regenerated, yeah. Go for it. And Henry, dude, Henry's been on the bench for years. He like what he last played at All-Stars, like he ain't sitting around here being like, Maybe if I play my cards right and be quiet in the car, then someone is eventually gonna give me screen time. Hell no. So yeah, nah, I like I love Henry. I think it's great to see him back. Would have liked the man bun, but um, no.

SPEAKER_02 20:33

Oh no, I'm liking him with this new dude. He looks cute. Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah, I'm not mad about the the haircut. So going into this round table, there is a lot of heat on Curbs, but Curbs is confident with the BDE of it all, that she can argue her way out of the round table if needed. If she needs to lip sync for her life, she is willing to do so. Uh, and that's exactly what happens at this round table. One of the twins starts on Cosama saying that the six narrative is a distraction, and then Dico goes, This was this was the fucking funniest thing I've ever heard. Dicko goes, Cosama De Vito is a Mediterranean communicator.

SPEAKER_01 21:23

And you know what's bigger than Mediterranean? Gasman. And I'm a Gasman guy, and therefore like I would love that to be my excuse forever. Just to be like, call me a Mediterranean.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

Mediterranean communicator. So is that just mean oh don't is that him saying don't listen to her? She's not what she's talking about. Those damn battalions, they just dribble on. Is that what he meant? Anyone who uses olive oil cannot be trusted. It was crazy. I was like, this go get this fucking galar out of here. Henry tells everyone he's voting Kirby, but wait, there's more. He's like, I've got it all. I love we get these flashbacks to Alvin, who Alvin is playing the best game. He's using his like personality and his sort of status as this like fun kooky gay to just like coast in the background. No one suspects Alvin at all. He was literally in the room, and people have forgotten that he was in the room.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

Oh no. Incredible. Great. Like perfect casting. Because who would have thought that Alvin would be this good? And the producers were like, I see something in Alvin. And they did. So yeah, great. So good. What an un what like an unexpected pick, but I'm loving it.

SPEAKER_02 22:37

It's got me thinking about other Master Chef Alarm I want in future seasons already. And I definitely definitely need Khan. We need Khan on this show. Absolutely. That's gonna, I can just see that. Like that's happening. Um because I think he'd be great. He would be great. He's proven it.

SPEAKER_01 22:54

Yeah. What about Sarah? Like the mum.

SPEAKER_02 22:56

Like she's like oh well, she's just had twins. But yeah, I would love Sarah on there.

SPEAKER_01 23:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

Put the twins on there. Julia, Julie, Julie with the the flop cake, the muddle pie. Or even like Poe. Like, I would love Poe on this show. I think she would be so good because everyone loves her. And then make her a traitor. And like I you could not pay me to write Poe's name down because I'm just obsessed with her.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

Master Chef versus Survivor. Just like, oh, that would be great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like this. I like where you're going with that.

SPEAKER_02 23:26

Oh, it's so good. So Kirby, I thought, defended herself pretty well here. I mean, it worked. Um, some people were a little sus on it later on, like Chrissy and stuff. But I think at this point everyone's like, Henry's got too many ideas. Yeah, uh, it was smart to blame Menaki, like blame the dead.

SPEAKER_01 23:46

Incredible. Yeah, these people don't stay out, don't stay up till 3 a.m. playing board games like I used to do, where it's like, you blame that tell, that's a tell. Yeah, yeah, totally.

SPEAKER_02 23:57

Oh, straight away I'd be like, Love your curbs, but you are try to. Uh so Kosamoa gets most of the votes. Um Dico votes for Henry. He's like, this is just a massive distraction. I was like, okay, and Lawson, I Lawson is the only person that voted for Kirby in this round table. So we've got to give it to our boy Lawson.

SPEAKER_01 24:25

Yeah, yeah. I've I forgot about him, but he pipes up in this in episode four in a really fun way when he's like, I was bullied at school, I was left out, and I was the fat little fat little kid, and blah. Love. Yeah, him and Reese are gonna team up, I reckon. But uh, good on him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:43

So Kosamoa, who is now shedding Mediterranean tears, is uh banished and of course tells everyone she's in fact a Mediterranean faithful. And Chrissy goes, Oh shit.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

Love Chrissy. So good.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

Chrissy's reactions to everything is just like the best.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

She's all Dico gets mad. He's like, Oh yeah, and they're all like, whoa, whoa, whoa, like chill, Rob's like, chill the fuck down, dude. Like, we were wrong as a group. Like, come on.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

He's like, nah, I just got a notification on my phone, it's a 70% off sale at Casbane. I gotta go.

SPEAKER_02 25:25

So he is afterwards. Um, Rob goes to Kirby. I'm so sorry, Doll. I've made a terrible mistake. You are so faithful. And I was like, This bitch is is there anything she can't do?

SPEAKER_01 25:43

I know that was the best. That was I think that Rob, the Rob Kirby pair is gonna get uh Kirby through so many more tricky spots. She's already been in so many. Um, but he really had like a come to Jesus moment. It was like, I saw it in your eyes, you know. I look I looked at you and I saw it, it was so real. And Kirby's like, mm-hmm. Yeah, thanks, buddy.

SPEAKER_02 26:07

Two strong hearts. Kirby's just like constantly playing the game, it's so incredible. Like, did Annabelle tell you about our experience at the premiere? Where like no, you were she like even had us fooled for so long. Oh, like what oh, just sort of like spilling like uh little bits of tea, but like fully misdirecting us, like just as podcasters. I was like, you are everything, like you are even playing us, and I feel honored that I've been lied to by Kirby. Like, I'm putting that on my CV.

SPEAKER_01 26:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like a notch on the belt.

SPEAKER_02 26:46

Like, she got me. Yeah, she got me. So in the turret, Gretel reveals there is no murder, but in fact, we'll be doing a little death throat twist. And I loved this. Uh, perfect time to do it, I think. Game needs to be, you know, they gotta like get some shit happening. So they can choose four, anyone, faithful or traitors. And at breakfast, we learn that it is Reese, Gamble, Claudia, and Rachel. And the strategy behind it was pick the quiet ones.

SPEAKER_01 27:19

Yeah. What do you think?

SPEAKER_02 27:20

Did they do the right thing?

SPEAKER_01 27:22

Yeah, they did. Like, it's just smart. Don't put yourself in there, don't get any extra heat. And who doesn't want to see those four in a little cage? Fighting their way out of it. So funny. The little cage. So good. No, no, like it was just perfect, perfect gameplay. And like, you know, like Kirby's played these games before. She's not stupid. So yeah. And Alvin, and and they're they're all so smart. The three traders, they're all like bang, bang, bang, bang.

SPEAKER_02 27:48

Yeah, well, if you ask Gamble, it is in fact her and the the three traders, which are still it's like I can't stop thinking about how fucking good that is.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

Yeah, yeah. That and measuring like assessing people's eyelash uh quality, it's like as an eyelash graph, it's a graph which mat matches eyelashes to suspiciousness on.

SPEAKER_02 28:14

She was basically like there's a gay in the turret because Chrissy had shit eyebrows and now they're good.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

Was it eyebrows or eyelashes?

SPEAKER_02 28:22

Sorry, I don't know. No, it was eyelashes. Yeah, I think it was eyelashes, like like fakies, I think. Yeah, I think I think Queen Kong's like fake eyelashes have like made their way into the turret. I don't know what the fuck gambles on, but I would like the same exact dosage. Thank you very much. So Chrissy yells out, be careful. There could be a trader in the mix. And to be honest, like I would love to see that at some point in the show, like where the traders put all the all of them in one of these death row things. Because what what are the rules do you think? Like, do you think they are protected?

SPEAKER_01 28:59

Or could they go? The only protection you have is your own stupidity, you know? Like, I think that's it. Imagine if they all put them all three plus Gamble and Gamble's right with like completely unaware.

SPEAKER_02 29:12

But then she wins the shield, and it's like, then what would happen? Do you know what I mean? Like, how would they if someone has to die? That I think might be a game for there. Where you're like, hang on.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

I think you just I think you just cracked something there, Sam.

SPEAKER_02 29:26

I think you did. Oh man, send in a little letter. I think production would probably have stopped that from happening.

SPEAKER_01 29:33

I think they're just banking on Gamble not winning, but yeah, anyway.

SPEAKER_02 29:37

Uh in the death row car, Rachel thinks Chrissy's a traitor because she slipped up and was like, Oh I'm gonna murder Rachel, that fuffin' bitch. And you know, I love these slips when someone thinks they've caught someone slipping with language.

SPEAKER_01 29:53

I know, such a good part of this game. I've heard so many people say, Oh, it's like it's been proven that like the slip up doesn't mean shit, right? But if if if I'm on the show and I hear someone slip, like I how do you ignore that? I don't what else do you have?

SPEAKER_02 30:09

You have eyelashes, eyelash quality, and slipping up.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

That's all you have to go on, yeah, and just getting rid of annoying people. Um, that's it. So yeah, no, I don't know. I I like but like Rachel ends up this. I don't I wonder what happens. Just can you ever be like meant medically evacuated based on your mental health? Because I'm concerned for Rachel.

SPEAKER_02 30:34

5150.

unknown 30:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:38

Yeah, Rachel.

SPEAKER_02 30:40

Yep, she's she's kind of like hopping it everywhere, and you're like, Rachel, this week, I think Rachel needed to be medically evacuated for when she said at the breakfast, this is my best outfit. Because I have to say, Rachel, if that is your best outfit and you truly believe that, you actually need like serious psychological evaluating. And here's my card.

SPEAKER_01 31:02

I'll guess it.

SPEAKER_02 31:03

Oh, exactly. Back at the manor. Um, hang on, where are we? The challenge with the Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, we can jump to the yeah, oh no, back at the mana first though, Rob tells Chrissy and Henry that he's no longer on the Kirby train. And they're like, uh and now Henry is sus on Rob because he's not been sharing information because the whole like slip up, the Kirby slip up comes up.

SPEAKER_01 31:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, like Henry's got it stacked against him. Like he's looking around for allies, and he's got he's got Gamble in one corner, and then next minute he's got Rob Manburn saying that he's had a come to Jesus moment. So I don't know. Yeah, who's he got who's he got to convince?

SPEAKER_02 31:47

And we get a Dicko moment too. He's like LSD Kingpin Dicko is very determined to get the gang back together after Kosamoa's banishment. And I'm like, mate, who even who even is LSD? It seems to be more than half of the group, but okay. Yeah, let's talk about this Viking ritual on the beach. Oh my god. So this was like visually stunning. It was like the piano, like this New Zealand beach and things washing up and the driftwood of it all.

SPEAKER_01 32:23

Absolutely cinematic. It were, it was giving the Odyssey uh in New Zealand, and uh I liked how they um I liked how they had the other players up on the hill looking down, and then instead of just moving the bars on that little table, they had the little like shuffle. Oh, that was cute. There was a little a lot of attention to detail, so yeah, it was very good.

SPEAKER_02 32:45

Gamble has a witchy moment. The bonfire, she's like, ooh, collecting wood and putting it and things. She's like, well, at least make it look nice, throwing them off. Yeah, so I love the I love the betting on them thing. I thought that was really fun. Chrissy was so happy to be gambling on something. I loved it so much. She's like, fuck yeah, something I'm good at. She's like, This is what I'm good at.

SPEAKER_01 33:10

Give me a bottle of bubbly and we're off to the reason. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 33:13

And give me a fascinator and we're on. Come on, Reese. Yeah, and Reese wins all of the um challenges. So they get to head back to the mansion while the other three, what I know, stayed in cages all night.

SPEAKER_01 33:26

What yeah. Let's give a moment for Reese. Reese. Oh, Reese does not, he does not need to do this show. He he is so he's so beyond the traders Australia, and he is delivering, even though he's not in the strategy that much, I don't care. He is bringing a level of levity uh and um fun to this show that is just perfect. So I'm so glad Reese is there. Uh, he's amazing.

SPEAKER_02 33:54

Reese is serving. I've got to also give a quick plug to my Patreon um and Apple subscriptions because I am also recapping Drag Race Down Under versus the World, which also stars Reese Nicholson. So it is fun to have Reese on both of the shows that I'm recapping at the moment, to the point where sometimes I'm like, oh, that's right, Reese is here. But I don't know. I think last week Reese didn't get much airtime or something. Um, I wasn't sure if they were having a good time, and then this week it's like they've just gone, oh great. I think being chosen really like uh lit a fire under Reese.

SPEAKER_01 34:31

I like that Reese said um in this episode, I need to do something, I need to get in the game. They can see that they're like making great content, but now they're seeing, oh shit, I actually need to play the game. So I uh I'm I've I've got high hopes.

SPEAKER_02 34:48

Love during the challenge. AJ turns to Henry and goes, Mate, chill the fuck out. You are ruining it for the survivor players. Yeah, I know Kirby's a trader, but she's my survivor trader, guardian angel, you fucking idiot. Leave it alone. And I was like, I mean, he's not wrong, but he's so annoying.

SPEAKER_01 35:12

I would have kicked him off the cliff because not only is he right and annoying, annoyingly right, but everyone heard it, and so then you're kind of there, like having to like have this conversation, you're like, pull me aside quietly, but everyone's like, Did you hear AJ and Henry skiing in the background? You're like, shut up, so yeah, you're sorry, and he's definitely right, but it's just like I don't know. I know to do it, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:36

And he seems so concerned with the reputation of the survivor players. I'm like, you are not helping with that right now, sir. Like, you're really not helping, like being so intense at all times. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 35:52

It's a lot, it's so true. He's like, I'm trying to protect you, man. As he's like crouching down one-on-one, everyone's looking at them, being like, What are those two gamers doing? Gamers, gamers, survivor gamer.

SPEAKER_02 36:04

So Dicko wants the king of chaos, Henry, out of there because he's like, This bloke is just trying too hard. He's playing this game, and I do not want to do that. So let's get rid of it. But Henry appeals to his car on the way back. He's like, look, just give me a chance, let's start with Kirby, see if I'm right or not, and then we'll go from there. And at that point, I was like, Oh fuck, if he gets enough people on side to do that, Kerbs could be toast.

SPEAKER_00 36:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:36

What did you think?

SPEAKER_01 36:38

This is where it's really annoying having been on these shows and watching the edit. I there was no way Kirby was going home because Kirby's in the narrator's seat right now. You know she's got heat, but she ain't going. Every she's like, Oh, I'm like gonna do this. Like, I'm gonna get Henry to speak up, and that advantage that like gives me an advantage too. So at this point in the game, or at this point in the episode, it's so annoying. I just want to enjoy the show, but I'm like, I can't help but read the edit. So um, that being said, I was cheering on Henry. Like, I mean, I don't really want Kirby to go, but at the same time, there's something satisfying about seeing a trader get got. So yeah, oh yeah, but I just wanted Henry to do a little bit more work, you know. Like he could have done, he's so funny and charming. I don't know why he didn't sort of like I don't. I wish they could have shown maybe he did it, maybe we didn't see it, but yeah, I wanted to see him like charming the pants off them a bit more, but that did not happen. Well, they all think he's hot, couldn't quite run.

SPEAKER_02 37:31

Chrissy, yeah. Chrissy on the way back goes, Oh, look, he's hot and he's some smart. I'm like, okay. I thought maybe he was, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:39

I think survivor vibes, that's it. Like, you know, they look at them and they go, Oh, these guys, they're gamers. He's just he's so smart. He's playing 3D tress, and Dick goes, I'm playing. What's he playing? Not even chess. Um, what's the game? The other one. He's like, Yo, draft 3D chess that I'm playing. Oh, playing draft.

SPEAKER_02 37:56

I was like, Oh dad.

SPEAKER_01 38:01

Oh my god, seriously.

SPEAKER_02 38:04

Back at the manor, we get this like uh little Henry Kirby chat moment where Kirby's a bit of a like cuck in this moment. He's like, Oh, Soz Kerb. Don't it's not personal, I'm just really stubborn, you know? I was like, I was like, stand on business, look her in the eye and be like, I fucking know you're a trader. Like, I would have much preferred that.

SPEAKER_01 38:26

Yeah, yeah. It's like just just be like, you know, let's show down. Let's show down, let's do it. Yeah. I also thought it was there were some little fun things that Henry did, which I thought were cool, wouldn't he said, um, Kerbs is like, I just wish you would have spoken to me more, then we could have sorted it out. And he's like, fuck though, that's like classic trader behavior. I'm not doing that, you know. So he was consistently just being like, Yeah, I ain't doing that. But I would have liked to, yeah, he could have he could have like zhuzh that one up a little bit. True. Imagine that, like a like the showdown, like the Henry versus Kirby, like a little bit of a little bit of a um fist.

SPEAKER_02 39:05

Henry versus Kirby. Well we do get um Alvin and Kirby having a little mustache twirling moment where they've realized that the heat has now moved to Henry, and they're just like they're just like, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:21

I love that moment. Those moments supposed to be so much fun for the traders to be in the in the manner, just being like, we are killing it, and then and then disappearing back into the group. That would be so much fun.

SPEAKER_02 39:33

Yeah, excellent. AJ does a he's his trademark creepy thing here with Alex, where he's like he's like, I just want to let you know I think you're like really smart and really hot, and I'm listening. Like, is this guy not just like like textbook creepy guy or what? Like, I don't know. He's just saying all of the things that like women do not want to hear because it's so disingenuous. But Alex is buying it. Alex is small. Alex is smart. That's the thing. Well, does she? I think she doesn't. I think she goes, This bloke is gonna trust me, so therefore I'm gonna use that. Cause because he's not onto her as a dog. No, he's not onto her. He would say he'd brag to us in confessionals if he was, but he's not. True. I think he actually just thinks she's hot.

SPEAKER_01 40:31

Yeah. I mean, that's how I played a lot of survivor. So good.

SPEAKER_02 40:40

Sometimes every show is just Love Island, let's be honest.

SPEAKER_01 40:44

And that's deep down, it's it's literally just Love Island cut ten different ways, you know.

SPEAKER_02 40:48

Yeah, there is one show, and it's Love Island with different with different challenges.

SPEAKER_01 40:55

Yeah. Alice is great, by the way. She is really great. Oh, and incredible. I loved it when she called herself. She called herself a self-aware, psychotic person or something. And I was she's that's to go on reality TV and get those words out. Um, yeah, accurately, perfect.

SPEAKER_02 41:11

So well, because there's a lot of discourse online just about how, like, you know, the faithfuls are dum-dums. But I actually think that these three are playing very well or in the in their different ways. Like, we've got Alvin doing the under the radar thing, Kirby's just Kirbying the shit out of it, and then Alex is, you're right, she's kind of like ducking and weaving in a way. I guess it is similar to other Alex who won um the first season, the trade of the first one. It's just kind of like I'm gonna just be like hot and like play a bit Jitsi when I'm not. I think Alex is doing that. Pretty privileged. Yeah, she's using the privilege. I love this idea of her playing AJ, she just needed to keep it to herself because she's told Kirby now, and Kirby is like, oh, that doesn't help me at all.

SPEAKER_01 42:06

So I as soon as that happened, I immediately texted Annabelle and I said, PAVERTY. That's what I was getting all caps.

SPEAKER_02 42:17

Oh my god!

SPEAKER_01 42:19

And then and then I heard Annabelle talking about it, and I was like, That's that's it. Like Kirby does not want to get caught by a hot little brunette, and all of a sudden, all now.

SPEAKER_02 42:30

Yeah, hang on, what can go first? Was that that was obviously filmed before this, shortly?

SPEAKER_01 42:37

No, no, so Kirby played Australia v World, gets you know, she has Sarah as her ally, and then she dumps Sarah for for poverty, and then poverty knifes her in the back, and then it's not long after that that she's played, so she's like, I ain't doing that again. True. Uh so she's dead.

SPEAKER_02 42:55

Alex is dead, she's like not and so is AJ got by a hot bisexual brunette in this house one more time. Yeah, not happening, not happening. Um, Alex also, I've got to say, I love seeing congenial trader behavior in the show because I feel like nowadays on this show, the trader on trader violence starts very early, and that can be fun too. But I do like that Alex does what she can within her power to deflect from the Kirby vote.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

Yeah, so I like that. Good intentions, good intentions, but it's just gonna backfire on her, unfortunately, which is gonna break her heart.

SPEAKER_02 43:39

Yeah, so at this round table, gamble starts. Look, I'll say it now. It's the three that were with me on the beach, and I don't want to hear anything else. And this is so good. They're like, Why? She has nothing to back it up, it's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 43:56

Look on their faces, they're literally like, um, okay. But also everyone, everyone's just like, uh, okay, Gemble. You know what I mean? Oh, wild, wild scenes. I think she's saying she's like it's vibes. It's vibes. It's vibes. It's vibes. Yeah. Gamble. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 44:16

Oh yeah, Claudia. Welcome to the show, Claudia, this week. We've never spoken about her. She's there. Her fingernails helped her get out of the um the cage. That's all I've got for Claude's.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

Yeah, I mean, some every show has come from Love Island, but Claudia slipped through the cracks somewhere in terms of making the uh sassy screen time. I don't know. I don't know what she was like on Love Island. Did she do well? I have no idea. Anyway, I have no idea.

SPEAKER_02 44:45

How do you win that show? And what do you win on that show? Do you uh yeah?

SPEAKER_01 44:48

Uh all questions that remain unanswered, Sam.

SPEAKER_02 44:53

Henry cannot help himself, and he says his Kirby theory, and then doesn't do the full stop, and then also implicates the twins again, and they are right there, and they are so riled up, they're like, oh, they call him a dud.

SPEAKER_01 45:11

A dud. And it's and it's real, it's real uh frustration from them, you know. They don't like getting attacked. And uh, but it's like Henry's played these games before, he's thrown shade, he's thrown down. Whereas these boys, well, were they on the block or something? Yeah, they're on.

SPEAKER_02 45:26

I think they were on both Love Island and the Block. Which so the block is a version of Love Island where they all build houses and maybe fall in love. I don't know. That's up to you.

SPEAKER_01 45:38

Yeah, yeah. No, that was like not a shiny moment for them. I mean, obviously, AJ was wrong, but you know, you gotta you gotta be able to have a some level of thickness in your skin, but they were very thin skinned. Being called thin skinned is, I feel like one of the most annoying and like insulting insults. Well, the worst your thin skin. Like, oh, okay. Jesus.

SPEAKER_02 46:01

So out of nowhere, Alex turns the conversation to Dicko and she goes, Look, this bloke is leading us down the garden fucking path, and that could actually be a traitor strategy, which I actually thought this was genius. Oh, except for the fact that Kirby didn't see it coming and Kirby needs to be in control of the turret.

SPEAKER_01 46:26

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like from one cult leader to another, you want to grab the you want to be uh in charge, and you know, she wasn't consulted, so yeah, but I love the cut to Kirby as she sang it. She's just like, What?

SPEAKER_02 46:42

She's like, I did not approve this message. So good. And then this was so fucking cute when all of the non-LSD members learn about LSD and they're like, um, excuse me. So what there's a club that I was not invited to?

SPEAKER_01 47:01

How do they not know? How do they not see Dicko like walking around bailing people up, standing like in corners being like USB, USB? USB?

SPEAKER_02 47:11

It should be the USB Alliance. Um Paul Lawson is like, oh, well, this just reminds me of the days when I wasn't invited to the party because I was a fat gamer.

SPEAKER_01 47:26

And I'm like, oh, Lawson's at this party. I've never seen I've barely seen him on four episodes. Yeah, seems like a lovely person. Gorgeous. But yeah, yeah. Mediterranean tears for Lawson.

SPEAKER_02 47:39

I love the I loved when um Chrissy gets accused by Rachel and she goes, Oh, game on, baby. And it is uh so good. We'll this round table was actually like iconic. There were so many good lines. We had um uh Chrissy get no Rachel getting activated saying she knows names, or Chrissy getting activated saying she knows names, one of them, and then Reese goes, name them. And I was like, amazing. But we get a lot of votes on Henry. Alvin, Josh, Luke, Dico, and Rob all vote for Henry. We get some Rachel votes, so yeah. So the Rachel thing, so Kira, Chrissy, Tully, and Gamble all voted for Rachel. That's quite a lot.

SPEAKER_01 48:29

Yeah, they just it's just bloodlust. They just want they literally are just bloodlust uh voting for Rachel. It seems weird, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:37

I don't think we got enough storytelling about that. I know we got a bit of like chaos from Gamble and stuff about it, but the fact that so many people were aligned on that, surely there was more chats that we didn't see.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

I think this is I think this is your moment to um give a little spiel for your girl Kira. She's leading it. She's just like anytime anyone looks at Rachel, she's gonna blow her head off.

SPEAKER_02 49:02

Oh, the Rachel Kira pre-existing beef was production gold. Like having people come into the show that like already like hate each other. It's like amazing. I think that wasn't that. Well, that was with Alex. Oh I've got that wrong partner.

SPEAKER_01 49:20

She's just making a refresh.

SPEAKER_02 49:22

She's refreshed it, she's she's just chosen someone else. I can't keep up. Alex's old Kira hates. Kira's just there and she's like, fuck all these hoes. Oh my god, you're so right. She's got pre-existing beef with Alex, but then she also has just decided that she hates Rachel. It's everything.

SPEAKER_01 49:43

It's everything. Yeah. And it's non-stop. It's like no one even breathes the name Rachel, and she's like, Yeah, she's a bitch. Oh, she's so annoying. Oh my god, make it stop. Like the little, like just noises she makes, it's yeah, unrelenting. And then, yeah, yeah, Rachel's probably gonna break down soon. Uh so it's rage.

SPEAKER_02 50:03

I think once again, there's only one Kirby vote, which is Henry.

SPEAKER_01 50:07

And ironically, if if Henry votes for Dicko, it's a tie. I think is that right? The night, because wasn't Kirby the deciding vote? I'm pretty sure. Yeah, Kirby's was the final vote.

SPEAKER_02 50:21

Yeah, no, Kirby's last vote was for Henry, who is now in Mediterranean tears. And um it's yeah, it's all over. He reveals he's a faithful, and they all fucking know that. But they I think they said it in the round table. It was like, there's faith, there's like getting out traders, and then there's just getting out like annoying faithfuls that are playing too hard. And we don't want to play faithfuls, yeah. Ugh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:50

RIP.

SPEAKER_02 50:51

Oh, totally. RIP. We're gonna miss you. You're gonna miss you, Henry. Gretel comes in and goes, Do you guys know what this game is?

SPEAKER_01 51:02

Yeah, Dico's like, yeah, I know it. I'm gonna sh I'm I'm I'm the new host of this show, Gretel. I do a bit. She's like, I've got some tips for you.

SPEAKER_02 51:10

I've hosted two shows before. He's mad he's not the host, I reckon. That's why he's doing this. It's so true. Oh my god. No, it's yeah, this this round table was so insane. Um, I love all do you say it's not called the safeties, it's the traders. So we've got some different games being played. We've got drafts and 3D chess, yeah. It's just shaping up to be the most incredible season. So we see after this Kirby spiraling about Alex going rogue. And I feel like some trader on Trader Advance is brewing next week. What do you reckon?

SPEAKER_01 51:52

Oh, absolutely. Kirby is cooking up uh like a like a very nice trader stock, and the final touch will be like a locket of Alex's hair, beautiful brunette hair. This one's for poverty.

SPEAKER_02 52:08

Beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 52:08

Which is sad because I really I'm like, uh like I'm I'm really enjoying all like it's gonna be great for the show, but uh yeah. I mean, you know what? It'll be another victim, uh that yeah, another person to experience, you know, the Kirby, um, the Kirby magic.

SPEAKER_02 52:24

So not only did Alex I get that, exactly, but like not only did Alex do the Dicko thing without you know, forewarning her traitors, her trader allies, but she also tells them at this point in the turret about her kind of like relationship with AJ. Uh and Kirby also does not like that at all. She goes, she goes, he is a snake. She goes, I do not like game players like AJ.

SPEAKER_01 52:53

Yeah, she doesn't want Alex to have a side piece. It's like it's it's the it's the turret, it's the turret or nothing.

SPEAKER_02 53:00

Yeah, yeah, totally, which I get, but it's like it's yeah, it's such a hard position to be in being a trader because not only are you not trying to get the faithfuls onto you, but yeah, you've really got to like manage your trader relationships as well. It's a tough gig.

SPEAKER_01 53:15

I know it is a tough gig. And Alvin's just there hanging out.

SPEAKER_02 53:20

Alvin is going all the way to the end, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:24

Go Alvin. No, I mean, like, you know, um, the thing is that like, and it's it's so obvious that these survivor players have done this before, and so Kirby is just not leaving anything to chance, and as a trader, you've got all the power. So, like, why would you wait and allow someone like AJ who's trying to be a like weasel his way in to the turret to influence the turret? You're like, nah, man, I got chosen to be the trader, so that's my job. And AJ, you're a faithful, so that's out there, you gotta deal with that. So I think I think like, yeah, it's like it's tough to manage the other traders, but at the same time, when you play these games, you just gotta do shit. And yeah, and and if you like otherwise you get sniped, so yeah, I'm excited. It's fun, it's really fun seeing Kevin play again, so it's good.

SPEAKER_02 54:15

Who are they gonna murder? It's what Rachel, Gamble, or Claudia left on death row. It feels like Rachel from the edit, but I don't know. They could be Rachel seems to well, she had heat on her at the round table, so you want to keep those people in, no?

SPEAKER_01 54:34

Yeah, and then also if they murder Gamble, which would be a crime against humanity, um, then like Claudia and Rachel would be pointing the fingers at each other, maybe, you know.

SPEAKER_02 54:45

Um, so anyone that Kira wants to physically harm, you keep in the game, I think. Which at this point is all of the girls, all of the hot girlies.

SPEAKER_01 54:58

Imagine if you're at the rain table at the round table before the banishment and you're like, I'm a faithful, but a message for the traders, whoever Kira is beeping with, just please don't vote to them. That's it. You know, I don't I don't know who else, I don't know who to vote for. I just make requests. Yeah, no, you're so true. No, I don't know. Um, I I hope it's not Rachel. I think it could be Claudia. Like, I think it could be Claudia. Yeah, and honestly, I'm mad about it.

SPEAKER_02 55:21

Yeah, yeah, we'll see. I did love Rachel's bit where she's like, my mum is gonna be so uh thrilled that I had a fight with a housewife. I thought that was cute.

SPEAKER_01 55:31

I thought that was really mature of her after being attacked, quite personally, even though she's do take it personally, do take it personally, and the only way to deflect from that is to like invoke the spirit of your mum, you know? And and I thought Chrissy's response was like, okay, it's actually pretty sweet.

SPEAKER_02 55:49

Well, it's a bit oh, you got it's just gotta flatter the housewives, don't I know? You just need to tell them how stunning they are, but also it was a bit of backdoor shade being like, people my mum's age know who you are. That's what I was thinking. It was secretly very shady. I thought she's like, my mum, who's in her 60s, loves the Australia. I've never seen it.

SPEAKER_01 56:14

I don't have a VHS player, so I wasn't able to watch the tapes. Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 56:20

Because it is middle-aged for me guys that watch this show.

SPEAKER_01 56:23

So don't be so funny if she and then she turns to Dico and said, Oh, my granddad loved you as the host of Australia Smart. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 56:36

Mark Warnock, what a fucking treat having you on this week.

SPEAKER_01 56:41

Thank you so much, Sam, for having me.

SPEAKER_02 56:42

Thank you. I'll see you soon.