The Traitors Australia - Season 3 Week 3 (w/ Jason Mackey)

DISCO DADDY and Traitors fangurl Jason Mackey pops his cringe couch virginity with Sam this week to discuss this DOOZEY of a week of Aussie Traitors. Bloody hell, Dicko’s dead, LSD is ovah and Krissy is PISSED these selfish girlies are wasting precious coins. Oh and emotional terrorist AJ is back to his old slimey tricks, will be break the game? That and a Drag Race Down Under rant.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:07

This podcast was produced on the land of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation. Welcome to Australia. Someone who is such a connoisseur of reality television. The content is hideous.

SPEAKER_02 0:24

So sorry about this. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 0:28

No, that's okay, darling. You take your Frida, we're ready when you are. Cheers, doll. Cheers. Welcome. Thanks for having me. A fresh one to the couch. It's everyone's favourite disco daddy. Oh Jackson, don't let Jackson hear you say that. Jason and Jackson. Yes, Jackson will not be happy. Jackson's hey Jackson.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

No, it's Jason.

SPEAKER_01 0:51

Huh?

unknown 0:52

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 0:52

No, no, I'm saying hi to Jackson. Oh, okay, right. It's one half of the disco daddies. Freed is just having a smoker's cough episode. She's fine. Oh, not for you. Hi, babes. Every time we leave her with someone, they we get the text being like, she's dying. I'm like, no, no. That's just the dog. Google chihuahua's um noise. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

Yeah. I've got a Frenchie, they backward sneeze. It's disgusting.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

File.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

Are they a chihuahua? No. Maybe. No.

SPEAKER_01 1:23

Um, how have you been, bitch? Pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 1:26

Yeah. Busy, sick all throughout winter. I'm sick of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:29

Great. But you're a trooper. I feel like you're sick and you're still out there every single weekend.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

Thursday, last weekend it was Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Love it.

SPEAKER_01 1:38

I'm dying. Every time I'm sick, I have one friend who's always like, you just need to go out and just like get it out of your system. And I'm like, no, I'm pretty sure I need to be, but like, no, no, no, no, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:49

I thought that in April and it's still going.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

Yeah, no. We're still here.

SPEAKER_00 1:54

Yeah, we are.

SPEAKER_01 1:55

Now we're, of course, here today to talk about this week's insane, insane episodes of the trainers. We have there's so much to do. But firstly, you uh have some thoughts about drag race down under versus the world you need to get off your chest.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

Oh, you want to hear that now? Yeah, bitch. Oh god. Oh yeah. I'm I Let me have it. I fucking hate it.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

This is like, what's that segment on Las Controlistas where they they look they give someone like a minute? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna do that. Yeah, give you a minute to get off your chest.

SPEAKER_00 2:24

Perfect. What the fuck is happening? Why is this show even on the television? I don't understand it. It's doing my head in. I will caveat this by saying it is not any of the queens whatsoever. They're actually all fabulous and working their pussies out. But what students did they allow in on workers like a work experience, like to edit and produce this show? It looks so bad. It looks so bad. And these challenges, if I it's been three weeks and I'm still singing Kiny.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

I've had that surgically removed. Oh look at Brian. You'll have to give me your surgeon. I know. I know. Look, I have lots of thoughts on this show as well. Um, but I am covering this show over on Patreon. So if you want to hear what I have to say about the show, it's literally paywalls. My opinions are free. I had Brenda Brest on this week, that she was lovely. Oh, fabulous. Had a great little bitch, Spanky Jackson, last week. Saw that, yeah. Talked about the Snatch Game, so yeah, go and subscribe and listen to my thoughts. But I will concur, it's definitely not the Queen's fault. But unfortunately, we're still not quite there story-wise. I do like that they're having a lot of fun in a way that's not serious. Kind of it's just the down under vibe. Oh, yeah, yeah. There's no one's there being like, you know, my grandmother, you know, had a light bill run out to buy me a swimsuit for this competition. This it's the opposite of that. It's very like, oh yeah, could I could be here, I could be at home.

SPEAKER_00 3:54

Yeah, but that's what I think I think that's one of the main things why I love like Australian drag. Having lived like overseas and come with my Australian drag doesn't take itself seriously, and that's perfection. It's brilliant, it's stupid, it's camp, it's in your face.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

I love when Coco is safe this week and she goes, Oh, yes, thank fuck. No one ever does that on the up on the other ones, they're like pissed that they're safe because they're like, I should have been in the top. Our girls are like, Whoo, say I'll take it.

SPEAKER_00 4:20

Yeah, 100%. I love it.

SPEAKER_01 4:22

Oh, yeah. Have you been going to any of the viewing parties?

SPEAKER_00 4:26

No, I've been I've been really meaning to though.

SPEAKER_01 4:28

Um maybe come to Grouse tomorrow night.

SPEAKER_00 4:30

Oh my god, thinking about it. More things to do, more out. Okay, fine, I'll be back.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

I want to do at least one of each before the end of the season. Because it is fun to enjoy it with you know, like how often do like people we know put on like television? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 4:45

We know one of the fucking judges. Like it grows my mind.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

So it's fun to like go and enjoy. Like I'm I'm thrilled for them. Even though it's a bit crusty, I know. I think I maybe give it a little bit more grace than you do. I like push through, but I just try and enjoy it for what it is. But it does, yeah, I'm not gonna lie, it's of course I want it to be slick and hot. But I think But maybe, maybe what maybe one day you'll look back at it and be like, I love that mess.

SPEAKER_00 5:10

Maybe. But I I don't even I don't even like the American version of it anymore. Because it's just so overproduced and I've just But that's got the opposite problem.

SPEAKER_01 5:16

That's all slick and no personality. None of those people like to tell me the name of one person from that show in last three, he's like, I I literally couldn't. Neither. I literally couldn't. And I've watched all of it. I cannot tell you they're next.

SPEAKER_00 5:27

I've worked with some of them in the last two years, I've worked with some of them and been like too much.

SPEAKER_01 5:31

It's me, Mindy Mixumies or something. I don't know. And you're like, cool.

SPEAKER_00 5:36

Yeah, worked with one of them twice, and she she remembered my name, and I was like, to Jackson, who is that?

SPEAKER_01 5:41

You've met her, she was on drag race, like well, I'm having fun talking about it with the girls regardless. Love, but anyway, but it's definitely not as camp as season three of The Traders Australia. It's ridiculous. Oh god. My god. Oh my god. Now, how of because this show is a smorgasbord of the waistband of reality television. Say that to say they get the waistband, absolutely. And so obviously I'm across like 90% of these people. Um it's like The Bachelor and Love Island, they're my blind spots with this cast. Who are your who did you know before the show started?

SPEAKER_00 6:22

Chrissy Marsh, Gamble and Reese. Reese, of course, and I think vaguely I knew who Law um Lawson was. Oh vaguely. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

Oh, just off top, Lawson is queer baiting up a storm this week. And can I just say what was with that line? What was with that line? Well, not only did he do the line, what is that? I'm a bottom.

SPEAKER_00 6:47

I've never been with a man before, but if I was, it would be with you.

SPEAKER_01 6:50

That he referenced being a bottom, and then he also dropped a thing on his socials this week of him in like a tradey outfit being like, I've only had one finger up my ass from a girlfriend. And I'm like, What is it? Disney villain. Because we know the rule of queer baiting is if you're hot, it's completely fine.

SPEAKER_00 7:11

He's not that hot. Sorry. No? No, if he was ten years older, absolutely. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01 7:17

I had the pleasure of meeting him at the premiere, and I gotta say, I was taken. Oh really? Oh yeah. He's hot in person. He's very hot in person. Okay, fair. Like uncomfortably. I was uncomfortable. I did do a bit of presence.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

I did do a bit of a deep dive on all of them, like through their Instagrams and stuff. Well, not on the show. Shane Shane didn't have an Instagram, of course. Um but like on his one as well, like the second pin picture is him with his like his shirt open, and I'm like of Lawson. I'm like, is this AI? Is this AI? No, he's that rigged.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

No, he's he's got a rig. Yes. Yeah, and I'm the one percent of Australians that did, in fact, watch Made in Bondi. Um so I feel like he's been cast on the show just for me.

SPEAKER_00 7:56

Yeah, it look, okay, fair, fair. But unlike, I knew no, I knew none of them. I really I But that's fun. I'm very gentle, I'm very gentle and picky with my uh reality TV because I do enough drugs that my brain has already rotted. I don't need to rot it more.

SPEAKER_01 8:09

You're like this absolute pig in the trough over here. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

That's a great description.

SPEAKER_01 8:15

It's what I do. Um, all right, let's start then. That thank you. I needed that. Um Baxter, I am gonna give you an Australian survivor education this week because this week was dominated by a person that I think is unsafe to be in society, which is AJ. Like, wow.

SPEAKER_00 8:33

I feel the opposite. Don't you think he's incredible?

SPEAKER_01 8:36

What do you wait wait wait wait? What do you mean unsafe in what way? Like, don't you think he's a threat to himself and humanity with how comfortable he is being that deceitful?

SPEAKER_00 8:45

No, I just think he's thick as shit.

SPEAKER_01 8:47

Thick?

SPEAKER_00 8:48

Yeah, I think he's not thinking, he's not thinking, he's not playing the game correctly. Okay, we'll get to it. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:52

Interesting take.

SPEAKER_00 8:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:54

Um all right, we'll start at episode five. They asked to wear their best funeral attire to breakfast because of course our Camp Queen Gamble. R I P R I Play. The queen of not knowing where she is. Oh my god. But before that, Chrissy reckons Dico's a traitor. And she smells blood. She's like, Why do you need a posse, Dicko? He's like, I'm an insecure man. And I'm like, self-awareness. Yeah, yeah. I'll give him that. Have you been enjoying Dicko on the show? No, I've been hating him.

SPEAKER_00 9:28

He's just reminding me of every boomer I know.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

It's giving them a he was giving the first few weeks, like, alright, how hard can this be? And then his refusal to play the game I first found very irritating. And then this week I was like, it's actually kind of amazing. I just got rid of full circle and I was like, Dad is actually so bad that it's it's very entertaining.

SPEAKER_00 9:53

Is he just not bothered?

SPEAKER_01 9:54

He's so not bothered. Yeah, he didn't want to play the game. He was very vocal about that. He's like, nah, nah, because he's like, nah, if you get rid of the traders, they'll just pick new ones. So just I don't know. Let's take LSD together. Oh my god. We'll recruit everyone that's interested. There's no rules to who's involved.

SPEAKER_00 10:12

He's going back to Australian Idol and just trying to create a boy band at this stage. Literally, it's all he knows how to do. It's true, yeah, true. Very true.

SPEAKER_01 10:19

And the bar was low for entry to LSD. Oh my god, that was ridiculous. But anyway, um I'm glad we don't have to hear that anymore.

SPEAKER_00 10:26

It really died off after episode.

SPEAKER_01 10:28

Oh my god. Yeah, if you got annoyed by that, you would struggle with Australian Survivor. Because on that show, every alliance has like a name. Oh god. It's like the Black Widow Brigade or the fucking headmaster's office, and they use them so much. Oh god. Except for one season when they had the Spice Girls Alliance, and that one I was okay with. Okay, that's amazing. Yeah, I'm bored of that. Oh my god. It was like all the girls in the one game. And they're like, I guess we're the Spice Girls Alliance. That's amazing. Oh my god. So alas Reese's worst nightmares come true, which is that Gamble has in fact been murdered. Yeah. Which can I say campused murder in history of the Traitors goes to Gamble. She had a full Viking burial at sea.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

Picking up her own driftwood to set on fire.

SPEAKER_01 11:17

That's what did it. She made her bed, didn't she? By making that driftwood sculpture so cam.

SPEAKER_00 11:22

Yeah. And then was like, like, why are you doing oh, I just want to make it pretty. Why? I don't know. I think I just like driftwood. I've had something I'm into.

SPEAKER_01 11:29

I wish they got the rights to Baron Joey Road so they could have played it at her funeral. Queen Con could have come out and done a fucking split flip split to Baron Joey Road, like a dance remix.

SPEAKER_00 11:43

On that beach, yeah. Yeah. Still like flatstones going everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 11:46

Oh my god. The only way they could have improved. Oh. Uh, yeah, so there was also a Janet Roach mention. Did you clock this? No. There was a Janet Roach. It was Blink and You Miss It. It was like, oh, I can't. Chrissy just made a bad joke about Janet, and I was like, oh no, I miss that. I really because now, of course, this show's so popular. I'm like, they're definitely gonna do another one.

SPEAKER_00 12:07

Yeah, yeah. Janet would be great. She would be fabulous, actually.

SPEAKER_01 12:11

She would be so and obviously Jina.

SPEAKER_00 12:14

We wouldn't be able to get her though. She's too she'd be too much.

SPEAKER_01 12:16

Cross-examining people in the round table. But it'd be so annoying though, because every five minutes we're like, I'm a lawyer, I know what I'm talking about. She'd be Dicko. She'll be like, no. Yes. She'd be like, no, we've already discussed the LSD of it all. And um, I'm actually not a cunt, you're a cunt. And I've never said that. It'd be so good.

SPEAKER_00 12:37

Can we start a petition? Actually, like I'd rather Gina over Janet.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

But there needs to be two. Like, put both. Oh, always. Well, who would you want from Sydney?

SPEAKER_00 12:45

Um Athena. Athena Levendi. Yeah, Athena X Lavendi. All the way.

SPEAKER_01 12:51

Lisa Alfield.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

No, Lisa also gives me anxiety. I couldn't deal. I couldn't deal. I'd be I'd be like, I'd be like Kiara. Like, just like no, I can't.

SPEAKER_01 13:01

I'm getting anxiety. I just can't deal with it. I can't deal. Can't do it. She'd be like, you're just standing there acting like a bunch of dickheads. Like she called her own children on television. That was great.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

I would love to meet one of them and just be like, How much do you hate your mum?

SPEAKER_01 13:15

No, this Sydney Housewives legitimately scare me. Oh, they were like, that's it, first season.

SPEAKER_00 13:18

That was the most repulsive thing ever.

SPEAKER_01 13:20

Oh, like Victoria Reese? Like if I saw her, I would run. Yeah. She would kill me.

SPEAKER_00 13:26

The only redeemable one, Melissa Suke, or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 13:28

Oh, just like Melissa Kat.

SPEAKER_00 13:30

Melissa Kat's just blending into the background, singing, singing at that kids' party thing. Like loved her. I forgot about her.

SPEAKER_01 13:37

Um, January's a big fan of her Minnie Cooper. Oh, I'm Mini on the pod. And she was like, ah, Melissa Katz, big fan. I was like, of course you are, doll. Amazing. Yeah. Fucking hell. So Jan uh Gamble's Jan's death. Gamble's murder has yeah, changed the vibe immensely of the show. And I love that they've turned her death into the mission. This was I thought this was a very camp mission. Oh yeah. Um, also it's snowing in New Zealand. Did you love that?

SPEAKER_00 14:08

I did out of nowhere. I was like, okay. What if Chrissy Murray said, does anyone know how it snowed last night on Deko just being an absolute boomer being like, oh, would you like me to explain the science of it? Oh. Shut up, mate. Shut up. Shut up. She's like, yeah. Oh, you just saw her face.

SPEAKER_01 14:23

I know, but she's got like five fucking snow homes. Like, shut up. She doesn't need to. She's literally good by you, Dickko. Like, shut up. Fuck. Um, so Gretel enters covered in, said snow. She says the traders have chosen five people to play the mission. It's Claudia, Luke, AJ, Josh, and Alvin. And then we then learn that there's they're not quite the seven deadly sins, but they're like they're like the seven deadly sins, but if like flirty was one of them.

SPEAKER_00 14:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

What the fuck was this?

SPEAKER_00 14:54

I think it was like a way of them just being like, let's try and stir the pot. Like the producers, let's try and stir the pot as much as possible by getting them to just piss the contestants off. Oh yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_01 15:08

It's a burn book. And then we'll just see what happens.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

100%. It was a burn book, and then they just threw it on there. 10 out of 10. It was a burn book. It was great. Stunning.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

And then so the and then but also Gamble, in her dying breath, got to choose three people to have shields. Yeah. Which was so good. So three of the people in the church are those people. Yeah. And then the other seven are people that the traders have chosen to call them slots, basically. And the other five have to decipher this. And they did the worst possible job. They didn't even consider. Did they forget about the gamble? Oh, yeah. We worked backwards from that.

SPEAKER_00 15:50

That's it. I'm like, I know I already know the three.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

Stay in the church.

SPEAKER_00 15:54

Yeah, I already know the three that she would pick. Everyone would have known the three that she would pick. Give them to her and then work backwards. But then also just calling, like, I can't even remember them putting them on the plants because they all did they did such a bad job. Not one of them right.

SPEAKER_01 16:07

I liked when they brought Kira out and she goes, uh, no, don't put me on flirty. I've got a boyfriend.

SPEAKER_00 16:13

Most annoying contestants. I hate her.

SPEAKER_01 16:18

But isn't she giving us great television?

SPEAKER_00 16:20

No, she's giving us great television. She just annoys me because she reminds me one of those girls in like a smoking area. She's just like, Oh my god, you got coke. Oh, don't make that face, buddy. Don't give me coke, don't be coke. God, I didn't want it. Okay. I'll just go fuck myself in. Yeah, she's dodged.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

Absolutely that girl. And I hate it. She's yet pulling the drag queen's wig. Yeah. Is that real hair? On the fact, they call me a fact. I'm like, no one's ever called you that. You wish. You wish. Wish. Hate her. But I'm not familiar with her because I don't watch the love shows, but I she's the one that's like delighted me the most. Really? Yeah, because she's like unhinged.

SPEAKER_00 16:55

Oh, she is so unhinged. I just love it if you like clock it as well. There's always a running commentary, even when the like the mics aren't on her. You just hear her in the background.

SPEAKER_01 17:04

It's someone else's confessional. And she's there being like, yep. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:08

Oh, you've got the kayak.

SPEAKER_00 17:09

Someone else's talking head and you just hear her in the background. You can hear her in the kitchen. Yeah. That I love. That I'll give her.

SPEAKER_01 17:18

Yeah, that's I'm like living for it. Uh before this challenge, actually, sorry, I missed a bit. Kirby and Alvin decide to make a little subtraitor alliance, which is smart. Very. Because I think obviously Kirby's a super good game player. She knows like it's likely that Alex is gonna be the one. The wheels are falling off already. Poor Alex this week is she's between a rock and a hard fucking player.

SPEAKER_00 17:47

Like those the wheels have fallen off that car torse.

SPEAKER_01 17:51

But I like Kirby, she does everything gently. She's just sort of like to Elvin, like, hmm. If we need to, we're gonna strategic.

SPEAKER_00 18:01

She doesn't lock anything in. No. Oh no. Nothing's locked in. She doesn't let anyone know her real feelings. Yeah. She's not even letting she's not even letting the camera know the real feelings. No. Behind that, like you can just see it whirring or her brain whirring away, and she's like dropping a little something. Oh, dropping a little something. Absolutely. And I love that.

SPEAKER_01 18:17

Oh, so they get them all wrong. Every single plinth wrong. Did they get actually did they get any of Gamble's? And they got one of Gamble's. They got Kira right. Because Gamble picked Kira Claudia and Chrissy. That's right. That's right. Because then they all get shields and then they get a dilemma, which is you can give the shield back and put 15k into the pot, or you can be a greedy little bitch and hold on to it. And they were greedy little bitches. I would be as well. Chrissy was good, right? She gave it back. Yeah, she was pissed at the government.

SPEAKER_00 18:51

She was crying, another one crying like this week. They're all crying. There was tears. Some real and some fake. Wait, who was the fake ones? Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

Oh, I'm missing things. But yeah, no, Chrissy's pissed. She's like these selfish little cunts. I would be too. Yeah, they're pretty pissed. Absolutely. Hold on. At least pretend that you're like there to play the game or do the team thing.

unknown 19:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:14

Instead of like, oh, I need 15 grand to have a good night's sleep. Okay, girl.

SPEAKER_01 19:17

Mind you, I did love when they left the married first guy, a tight guy on the pole. That was great. That was.

SPEAKER_00 19:23

When they were just like, Yeah. Uh no, we're not taking you. Really? Yeah. And apparently he's like the nicest guy on the pl on the planet. Too bad. Nice guy's finished last. I know. Wait, isn't he like I think he's the only one that's ever like stayed with the girl, the person he married?

SPEAKER_01 19:38

And you just it'll come out next week that he's like, you know, murdered a child or something. Oh my god. Allegedly. Allegedly Grim. Well, I'm just saying it's too good to be true. You can't be on that show.

SPEAKER_00 19:50

And a normal a normal functioning person. No.

SPEAKER_01 19:53

Absolutely not. No.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

Nice to know we feel the same way about the married and first side shows. Horrendous.

SPEAKER_01 19:58

It's like below deck. Do you watch below deck? Those guys, all of the men on that show, you'll be like, oh, he's all he's actually alright. And they're like, nah, in the news, it's like arrested for like violent crimes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:09

Like, well, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

Uh okay, but at the round table, Chrissy fucking marsh at this round table deserves a Logie. Oh my god. She was like, I'm Chrissy fucking Marsh and I'm the fucking realist. Drop this and let the whole world feel like she was literally dropping bars. Dropping bars. There was like even like a pause for it. It was really good. She's like, I'm what? I'm Chrissy Marsh and I'm a real bitch. Yeah. It's fabulous. It was so good. And Dicko's like, oh no, no, no, no. As usual, some bullshit. Some bullshit. And then it was a close one. Uh, but the pylon for Dicko was too much.

SPEAKER_00 20:50

I mean, he was just so vocal. From the very beginning, he was just too vocal. Not I don't even think he knew how to play the game. Did he watch a previous episode season of the Traitors? No.

SPEAKER_01 20:59

He didn't get paid to, so he's like, I'm not watching it. Fair.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

Yeah. Like, had no clue how to play the game. It was just so loud and vocal. I was surprised he wasn't voting out in the first episode.

SPEAKER_01 21:07

Yeah, I know. It was actually kind of fun. It was it was, I gotta say, a fun change to have someone on the show that just like does not give a fuck. I kind of enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_00 21:16

Yeah. I also, I mean, in first, I also think Reese doesn't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

Reese couldn't care less.

SPEAKER_00 21:22

Every time his name is mentioned and the camera cuts to him, he's just like, ah, my name's mentioned. I love it. I love it so much. It's it's great. It's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 21:31

Oh my god. It's just like I'm not being paid drag race money for this. I'm not bothered. There is a fair bit of heat on Reese at this round table, actually, but it ends up being between Dico and Reese. Yeah. But Dico's out and he goes, I wouldn't trust you guys to find my car keys. I'm a faithful. Oh, Dad got him with that dad zinger. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

And if he had if he had a wig on, he would have flipped it as he walked away.

SPEAKER_01 21:55

Oh anyway, and there's mixed feelings in the mansion. Some people are like, Well, at least we got out a shit faithful, which is how I would have behaved. 100%. I would have been like, I knew he was probably not a trader. But I just needed him to go. You just need to shut the fuck up. But honestly. Yeah. Sometimes you need to put a faith a little to bed. Exactly. They're that annoying.

SPEAKER_00 22:15

I just I couldn't hear LSD one more time.

SPEAKER_01 22:20

Oh, okay. In the turret. Um this is where it all falls apart for our girl Alex. She's like, um AJ knows. Like, Alex is getting heat already. Kirby's like, we need to get rid of him.

SPEAKER_00 22:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:40

But then weirdly at this point, still not shortlisting him. I think I know what's going on. Why don't they just get rid of him? If he's meddling. Do you think Kirby's trying? But at this point, Alex thinks that they're allies still. Thinks her and Kirby are allies? No, no, thinks her and AJ are allies. Oh 100%. She's 100%. She's working with him in a way that Kirby tried to warn her about. Yeah. Like he's a fucking filthy snake in the grass. But she's playing the game and I love it.

SPEAKER_00 23:08

Yeah. Like she's not, she's not. Oh, I think she is. She's not I think she's all she's all sweet and innocent. I don't think so.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

Well, she was sweet and innocent at this point. Um, they shortlist Rob, Josh, and Luke. Um, they're twins. I I need the twins to go. I'm sorry. I'm not they're kind of on the ball about a few things. They're they're they're doing well. I think they think they are leading the whole group of faithful. Oh, straight white men, of course. They're very straight white men in there. I've got that vibe, which I need that to that's not the energy I need on this show, and I need them to be knocked down pegs. Yeah, 100%. I need Chrissy Marsh to like the real Chrissy Marsh to please stand up.

unknown 23:45

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 23:45

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 23:46

Which I can just I can feel it. I can feel it coming, I can feel it in my waters. She is She needs to win. Um She's gonna Real Housewife at any time now.

SPEAKER_01 23:53

I am so hard on the Chrissy Marsh train. Like I need her to win. Yes. She's just fabulous.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

She doesn't she doesn't even need the money either.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

No, of course not. She doesn't even need it. She's already got a bloody yacht. She has the just for yeah, the just for fun.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

It's called the just for fun.

SPEAKER_01 24:07

Just for fun.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

Absolutely get out. Okay, new goal. New goal in life is to get on that boat at some point. Babe. With her, invited, invited, of course. Yeah, yeah. Of course, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:18

Not to get on that boat. It's you in the middle of the night. Just getting arrested. Yeah. Um in a wetsuit. So episode six, I'm just gonna say this was the best episode of this show and possibly of the traders ever. I was like, I was screaming at the scream. This was fucking insane. Yeah. For all of the wrong reasons, but that's why we loved it. Uh, but Alex, like, oh first, I want to give a quick shout out to Reese's breakfast outfit. Little watermelon on there. I was like, we do what we can.

SPEAKER_00 24:54

Love that.

SPEAKER_01 24:55

Uh, praise be. But then uh Alex comes in hot at this brecky, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

She's female.

SPEAKER_01 25:04

And she's giving us more Logie nominated television, loses it at Alex. She's like, you fucking keep my name out of you. She went full like Lisa Rinard. She really did.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

It was amazing. She really, she really is uh like aiming for a guest spot on like the reboot of neighbors, isn't she? Like she really is, and I'm loving it. It was everything, yeah. Yeah, or she was.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

Like, Alex, I've not said your name. It's like, you fucking liar.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

There's like a like it was just a get like it was a bit too long that segment as well. I'm just like, okay, I get it.

SPEAKER_01 25:38

I want the director's cut, I want the tapes. Ten minutes. Everyone's like so awkward, like, oh my god. But the change in her behaviour, such a clear signal that she's especially because it was at breakfast. It's like you're literally telling everyone that you've learned something last night overnight in the turret.

SPEAKER_00 25:54

Hello. So it's like was it Henry that clocked that?

SPEAKER_01 26:00

Henry's gone, bitch. Who are you talking about?

SPEAKER_00 26:03

Wait, wait, who am I thinking? Wait, wait, wait, one of the twins, one of the twins is one of the twins.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

You're um fine for forgetting all the straight white men's out. Yeah, oh yeah, one yeah, one of the twins is like to it.

SPEAKER_00 26:13

Well that's an obvious like hello, that's obvious.

SPEAKER_01 26:15

And also the person that's really clocked it, who already kind of had suspected, but now he's a hundred percent sure, is AJ. Yes, and then this is fuck, he's such a serial killer. He's like he's oh see, if you'd seen his season of Survivor, you'd be grossed out right now in the same way that I am. Okay, right. Like he's just a creepy dude in the way that like all of his mannerisms, you're like, you're like a person pretending to be a human, like oh sociopath.

SPEAKER_00 26:46

Yeah, sociopath, allegedly.

SPEAKER_01 26:48

Yeah, it's just a little bit too much. Alright, okay. See, I'm just looking at it as doing, yeah, like sure. At this moment, he's doing great. It's not sustainable, it's halfway through the game and he's doing all this. He's there's no way he's getting to the end. How?

SPEAKER_00 27:01

Oh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

How can he get to the end now? Pissing off the traders this way? They bring him in. Yeah, if they oh if they do, I swear to god. But that would just that's how it ends, isn't it? It's like that would fuck shit up. Like they're either going to or not. But no, I just uh I you weren't creep you he didn't creep you out at all. Look, I can see anyway.

SPEAKER_00 27:22

I can see how manipulative he is, and that's amazing, but he's doing it in such a great like I'm just I'm just trust me, trust me on this. I get it. I know what I'm doing. Okay, I can see that's yeah, but I'm also like crying. There's 250 grand on the table.

SPEAKER_01 27:34

I'd be like that as well. Yeah, okay. Well, yeah, he's playing hard, but I just can't see how this doing this now gets you to the end. But yeah, I'm gonna admit, it's crazy that he literally knows who the three of them are. That was like weird, but in a way where it felt like he broke the game, you know? Yeah, which isn't kind of good doing.

SPEAKER_00 27:52

Has he like seen them at the window or has he like Did he read like a producer's very dark dossier? Did he like foolish because it also came out of nowhere? You know? It came out of nowhere.

SPEAKER_01 28:04

Well, he kind of he did justify the steps to figuring it out.

SPEAKER_00 28:08

I don't think those stu those steps are bigger than you don't think so? No way. Well, I love this conspiracy theory. Welcome to the pod. Yeah, him finding a producer's notebook is way more believable for me right now. Yeah, that's true, actually. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:22

I mean, come on. Isn't isn't Australian television known for its morals? A producer would never do that.

SPEAKER_01 28:29

Gretel. He snuck into Gretel's trailer and was like, Yeah, I'm gonna give you an offer you can't refuse.

SPEAKER_00 28:37

She has been talking about all these dead husbands, so you know, maybe she'll kill him next.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

Well he's he's onto it, and he's like, I'm gonna put Elvin out there first. But I mean, look, the twins were also onto Elvin anyway. Yeah. So it's not like he's the only person kind of driving that ship. Uh they find out that little Robbie Farnham's been murdered. Too bad, so sad.

SPEAKER_00 29:02

Good. Hadn't her personality of a wet blanket. It was his time to go. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:05

He was kind of there was a little bit of interesting story with his conflictedness around working with Dicko or not. Like, I think he wanted to be with Dicko and then he realised Dicko sucked and he tried to like distance himself, but I think it was a bit late.

SPEAKER_00 29:18

Yeah, way too late. He was he was a core member of LSD.

SPEAKER_01 29:21

See you, mate. Yeah. Um, this is the scene now where AJ goes, Alex, can I just grab you for a chat? And she's like, here we go. And he's like, Look, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna say I know you're a trainer. It was the most fucked up thing I think I've ever seen. And she's there and she's like, huh? Just like looking at the camera person, like, is he okay? What's the fucking happening? And she's like, well, obviously I'm not a trader. He's like, uh he's like, ha ha ha, okay. Let's just pretend. No, he's off. He's such a bulldozer. He's like, yeah, yeah, but let's just from now. For context. For context, you are you're a trader. So we'll just continue. It's like, oh my god, he just like railroads everyone.

SPEAKER_00 30:16

But he did it in such a but he he like honestly, I have to give it to him. He yeah, you don't like it. But he did it so well, like literally the minute he said for context here, you are in the context of this, you are, and the wheels literally fell off and she just started crying. She lost every single ounce of credibility when she started crying in front of him.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

I know we're making television and everything, and there's money on the line and stuff, but I do have like it does, it still makes me feel uncomfortable. I don't think you need to like make like a young woman on screen feel really uncomfortable by like being pressured. Like even Reese later saying, I have felt coerced by you. I was like, Yes. Yeah, actually, he does. That felt like a uh like a sex pest trial, and that was evidence. Oh my gosh. We needed Ginaliano there to be like, listen, mate, stop fucking coercing people. Put it back in your pants. Put it back in your fucking pants, AJ. And then we would have moved on. But yeah, I don't know. You didn't get a crepe.

SPEAKER_00 31:09

No, you're open maybe you're opening my eyes to it all now.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

It'd be my bias from having watched his season of Survivor, where he was a foot proper crepe. But I'm like, I'm And it's always with women. That's the thing. It's not he's not doing this shit to fucking Reese. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 31:22

Like he just now I feel icky. Yeah, you know what? I've like I'm now reassessing the episodes and I'm gonna go forward just being like, is he a creep or is he just playing the game?

SPEAKER_01 31:30

No, I get like I'm trying to think if I didn't have a preconceived idea, sure, I'd be like a bit impressed, but I would still find it like a lot.

SPEAKER_00 31:38

Oh if someone confronted me like that in any setting, I would be I would be shocked. I'd be like, get out get out of my face.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

What is happening? The most. Uh it's lime. The tears was just a bit, I was like, oh my god, could you not have just like done this in an honest way? But also, like the out if he's just trying to get to the end and win, there's a way to do that without putting on this performance right now. It is you know and also wouldn't you want them to couldn't you be like, I'm so smart, ha ha. Just tell us in the confessionals, but not have like the actual traders know that. Why is he trying to like pressure? He obviously thinks he's smarter than her.

SPEAKER_00 32:20

Because he's gonna bring her like he needs her on on side right now. He he I I can see him, he already thinks three steps ahead. He needed her on side to get rid of Alvin, he needs her on side to get rid of Kirby, and then he's gonna like and then he's gonna shake her nose.

SPEAKER_01 32:32

Is this how you get someone on side? Like bully them? Like, I don't think that's how you get someone on side. I think I don't think he's trying to get her on side. I think he's th like threatening her. Never heard of Party Hearst before?

SPEAKER_00 32:42

She'll be wearing a beret in the next episode, like with the top of the gun.

SPEAKER_01 32:45

Well maybe if he was a creepy straker, I'd find it fabulous, but I do not find it fabulous. Oh, he's gay. Who? AJ? Yeah. No. Oh, if he wasn't a creepy straight guard, it was like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, gosh.

SPEAKER_00 32:59

Yeah, okay, no, I'm not.

SPEAKER_01 33:02

He's reassessing Lawson next way. I'm reassessing. This is my aim to just convince you that AJ's a pest. We get this mission on Mount Horrible, um, where AJ continues to be a demon throughout the mission. Um just sort of what's he doing here? Who's he who's he convincing? Is it the twins? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:22

He's like, Yeah, we're doing Alvin, right?

SPEAKER_01 33:24

But they or who was it the twins' idea to begin with?

SPEAKER_00 33:27

It was that and then he just what he walked up to one of them and was just like, oh, I'm voting for Alvin tonight. And then he was like, Hey, me too, me too, me too. Like they're all on board already. They're just done.

SPEAKER_01 33:34

I hate his manner when he does things like look, like when he goes up to Alvin later, he's like, Hey, just so you know, I'm voting for you. I'm gonna vote for you. Just like I'm gonna vote for you. Like, that's just for context. That's what we're doing. Do you know what I mean? And Alvin's like, cool story, do you care? Like, what you want a fucking medal for being so upfront and like kind? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 33:59

It's like one thing I will say, I will miss like I will like Arvin's amazing glasses and a different pair for every single shot. I'm gonna miss them with those frames, obsessed.

SPEAKER_01 34:11

Yeah, Alvin was a really good casting choice. Oh, amazing. Yeah, very, very good. Yeah. Uh oh, am I up to?

SPEAKER_00 34:20

They're doing the they're doing like the torturous hill thing.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

They did the torturous hill thing, they all got their things lit up on fire. Yeah. I was impressed. They did a good job. I would I would be dead. They finally got some money. Yeah. And Alvin. Alvin's like, oh, I'm so tired. Yeah. Yeah. Just I'm just so tired. I'm just like I think he's Yeah. I don't know. It's a lot to do that. Plus, he's got these kind of like, you know, boss bitches with him in the turret. And I think his his strategy, which was the right one, was to just play into the under the radar thing. Oh, 100%. And he like did that really well. Yeah. Um, but yeah, there wasn't all this other fuckery going on.

SPEAKER_00 35:02

Even when he was pressed by anyone, he was still just really calm and collected. A lot like that was good. Yeah. He did he he played the job well.

SPEAKER_01 35:10

So yeah, Kirby catches wind that Alvin's name is out there and she goes, fuck. She knows she's she knows the jig is. Oh, it's coming to a close for her. Now, at this round table, um Alvin deflects onto Rhys straight straight away. Did you think it was a good strategy for him to speak first? No, he shouldn't have said anything.

SPEAKER_00 35:32

Yeah. He shouldn't have said anything whatsoever. Yeah, 100%. And also GJ there being like clutching at straws, and the minute he saw that he was just like, Yeah, he's like rum and run out under the round table.

SPEAKER_01 35:46

He's like, Look, I know. I know you're a traitor.

SPEAKER_00 35:50

I know you're a traitor. I know you are. Like, you don't need to lie to me.

SPEAKER_01 35:53

And Reese's defense was, well, I'm actually quite shy.

SPEAKER_00 36:00

I found that hilarious. Yeah. Like, it was like, oh, you keep deflecting everything with comedy. Yeah, no shit. He's a comedian. Like, what the?

SPEAKER_01 36:08

I get it though. Like it was the right thing to say. Because it was like when you're being attacked like that on these shows, you have to be a bit like vulnerable. Yeah, yeah. Do you know what I mean? To show that you're like authentic. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:19

You're saying racist and authentic? I'm gonna tell him next time I see you.

SPEAKER_01 36:26

Love race. No, I'm just saying, like, if you were being accused of being a duplicitous traitor.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

But I'm just a little bit shy.

SPEAKER_01 36:36

I have no idea what you're talking about. I think it would have been better, more real if Reese went, do you know what? I don't want to be here. Yeah. I might seem a bit quiet because I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_00 36:46

I'm Dico 2.0. Don't know how the game is played. I don't want to be here. I'm done. I'm actually worse than Nico. I've got season 18 of Drag Race to go and host. Like, I'm done. I'm done. I don't know. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Yeah, no idea. She's got her hot husband at home. She's gone up there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:02

So Chrissy, Kira, and Reese are like, AJ fucking sucks, man. Yes. And this was great. This was when I was like, yes, we're fucking gonna get rid of him. And we were so close. How good was this edit on this round table? Stunning. It was amazing. It was so not only oh god. Three of them up with four votes each. There was well, it was a mess. So many people gave these like random votes. People voting for Lawson and shit. I was like, whoa.

SPEAKER_00 37:34

I just I don't know where this like the Lawson thing, I do not understand. Where's that coming from? He is yeah, he's playing like if he was a trader, he'd be amazing because he's all quiet and innocent. And he hasn't I don't think he has a clue what's going on either, really.

SPEAKER_01 37:46

Do you know what I love? I think Claudia says this a lot. Like they'll be in the car or something, and they'll be like, hmm, yeah, Reese. They would be a great they would make a great trade on. And I'm like, that is not evidence. You can't use that. No. Everyone would make a great trade. The fact that you're saying that is just like you didn't think of it. So therefore, it must be really smart. She doesn't got do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 38:12

Like, bless her.

SPEAKER_01 38:16

Next to no airtime, except for when she like steals money. Yes. Yeah. Or when she used her press-on nails to get out of that cage. That was pretty fierce.

SPEAKER_00 38:26

That was the These nails are not just decorative. They're not just decorative, they're also functional. She's like with hemp rope. Alright, babes, those nails are getting destroyed. Come on. Amazing.

SPEAKER_01 38:42

So there's this split. It's like it's mostly on Alvin, but then it's called it's like a proper tie with AJ. Yeah. And then a bunch of others. Fucking Alex votes Alvin. If she did AJ, he gone.

SPEAKER_00 39:04

But if she did him, that is then just like she knows that she's on her own now. She doesn't have the support of Al of um Kirby or Alvin. Yeah. Definitely not. Like, not even their trust. She doesn't have their uh confidence. She knows she's screwed. She needs to find someone else who's gonna be able to have her back. And the only way she's gonna do that is with AJ because she's been railroaded by her. She chose violence.

SPEAKER_01 39:27

Look, it's great for the story because literally, I don't know if we've ever had this sort of storyline before on this show. Like a trader that's like caught between working with a faithful that legit knows who she is, and he's giving her instructions on like who to recruit and shit, or another trader. It's wild. It's he is he's being a really good puppeteer. Well, he's also dancing on the rules of the game because it's against the rules of the game for a trader and a faithful to knowingly work together. Is it? Yes. So but so basically, if she said to him, Yeah, I am, let's go, let's do your plan, like she that's they're both gone. Like they can't do that. Well, so they would get like kicked off the show. Well, what's never happened, but yeah, but that that is against the rules to go, oh yeah, wink wink, you're right, let's work together. But this is so much. Like she has to keep that no matter what. I did not know that. But the way he's being so intense about it is putting a lot of pressure on her. Yeah. And knowingly from him.

SPEAKER_00 40:29

And I think that's why. Could he be trying to do that though? Could he be trying to coerce her into saying that she's a traitor and then she gets kicked off? Honestly, I wouldn't put it past him.

SPEAKER_01 40:37

He's such a fucking snake. Oh, that'd be like it's the amount of pressure is like a lot. That'd be such a big time. The tears and the tantrums. That'd be such good TV, though, if that happened. Imagine they kick her out. Oh, because I don't know. You didn't watch the previous season of this show. So nobody won. What? Yeah. Because it was like a deadlock between traders at the end, and they all chose to not split. Yeah. Oh, that is. So that's why we didn't see this show for like two or three years. Yeah. Oh, that's horrific. So I think the last thing the production of this show won right now is AJ fucking smug little fucking ass walking around being like, well, I've figured it out, and I'm gonna break the game. Like they're they're sweating, I reckon. Because whilst at the moment it's fabulous television, it's getting dangerously close to last season. Broken.

SPEAKER_00 41:36

Oh, that's amazing. That's amazing. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:43

So by Alvin loved his speech at the end, it was very moving. He's like, I've been in imposter, you know, imposter syndrome, and all that.

SPEAKER_00 41:54

I was like, emotion therapy.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

Fabulous.

SPEAKER_00 41:58

Yeah, and that was a really good segue into him being like, I'm a traitor.

SPEAKER_01 42:00

I'm a trader, and then they all go, yeah, uh, which look, we needed this to happen. Because if it got to like episode six and like they didn't get any, it starts to get a little bit frustrating as a viewer because you're like, come on. Someone get it, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:13

Because I don't think they've really I truly watching the show with fresh eyes, just like I up until like this episode, I don't think didn't think any of them had a clue what was even going on. No, and then all of a sudden it's just like AJ naming them all, and one of the twins who they were, and it just kicked into gear this really.

SPEAKER_01 42:30

This episode was nothing like the rest of the show. It literally felt like an Australian Survivor episode. Mind you, when AJ was playing that, he was also playing the traitors. Like he's always playing the traitors.

SPEAKER_00 42:43

Fair, fair. But what's the prize money for um Survivor?

SPEAKER_01 42:47

I think it's the same. Quarter mil?

SPEAKER_00 42:49

Quarter mil? Yeah, I do some I do some duplicitous things for quarter mill.

SPEAKER_01 42:53

Yes, but that's a different that one is like, yeah. I don't know, because you can kind of team up with people and be evil. But isn't he teaming up with people and being evil? His game's more like mustache twirling. Okay, okay. So in the conclave, they're shook, they've lost Alvin, of course. I was it was not on my bingo card that we would lose him first. Like Alex and Kirby have had so much more heat on them than him to date. I thought Kirby would have been gone two episodes ago. Kirby was gone straight away. Yeah, she's done such a good job. She's incredible. Yeah. Acting acting chops. Oh, absolutely. Best poker face out there. Yeah. And Gretel enters, and of course, because they've lost one, now they have the option, should they choose to recruit. And I'm glad it's an option, because I think sometimes they like force them to recruit for like the numbers or whatever. Yeah. I'm glad they've still given them the option 'cause now it's like we're left the end of this week with this incredible cliffhanger where we have no idea if they're gonna if if it's with AJ, whether it's a seduction or a murder or is it something else entirely?

SPEAKER_00 44:07

I don't I don't think AJ is gonna be that on this. Okay. Because Alex is gonna be scared of him. Kirby's having will have none of him because then she knows she's on her own and she's she's she's on the chopping block next. And there's no way they're gonna get rid of him because if they get rid of him, it's too obvious.

SPEAKER_01 44:22

And they haven't agreed on doing anything with him to date, so why now? Exactly. But I oh I guess why now is his fucking performance this way. Because after the round table, he literally is like, see everyone, I told you so. And even Chrissy's like, alright, we're all listening to AJ. Like that annoyed me. I was like, no, Chrissy. And Reese like apologized about the coercion comment. I was like, no, you're off. You are all falling for it. He's good. He's good, but he's not he's not the faithful you want to work with because he doesn't give a fuck about you. He's like basically a traitorous faithful.

SPEAKER_00 45:00

But that's the thing. I think I think if Alex was smart, she would just be like, get him on side, keep him going, and then just be like, we need rid of him. Now he served his purpose, he's gone.

SPEAKER_01 45:12

I would love to see him just get murdered at this point. I think that'd be excellent. No, because you want him to be seduced?

SPEAKER_00 45:20

I want no no no, I don't no no no no no. I don't want him to be seduced.

SPEAKER_01 45:22

Actually, maybe I do, because that'd make really good TV. No, what did he he gave her a name to seduce, didn't he? Yeah. Who was it? I can't remember. Alvin. No. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. He said like oh fuck, I can't remember. I swear he gave her like instructions that were really complicated. It wasn't just like seduce me, it was seduce someone else, throw them under the bus, then seduce me. He's trying to get Mary to trader in the 11th hour and then win that way.

SPEAKER_00 45:53

Oh, he might do it.

SPEAKER_01 45:54

Because that's kind of like that's a a a proven strategy. But normally, like you can't choose. There are some seasons that have happened where they've had this little twist where like you can communicate with the traders, like they're behind a uh like a partition and you can be like um seduce me. I want to join. Oh so maybe they'll do something like that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 46:17

Well he's he's effectively doing that, but out in the open. I think it would be really I think it would be really glam if they like if it was just like sisters are doing it for themselves and Alex and Kirby like like yeeted him out of there tonight. Then I would love that. It would be great. I don't because I don't think in some way, yes, it's these contestants' decision, but in some way there's a producer in the background going, do this, please.

SPEAKER_01 46:42

Oh, totally. We beg of you. Totally.

SPEAKER_00 46:43

And they won't, I won't think they'll allow that because he will make good television for at least two more weeks. At least four more episodes, he will make good television. You oh, of course.

SPEAKER_01 46:50

He's oh he's making great television. I'm I'm like enjoying how frustrated I am. You're really good. No, I love it. It's uh this episode was amazing, and he did that, but I still like you know, don't want him anywhere near me. Fair Kirby has her work cut out for her now because like poor bitch is probably like, oh my god, I wish I killed um Alvin Alvin, uh sorry, Alex when I had the chance. Oh, yeah. Do you know what I mean? Because now she's stuck with this like loose unit that she can't control. Broken down Mazda. Yes. She's having like a lot of things. Like, what am I gonna fucking do now? But I have all faith she'll figure it out.

SPEAKER_00 47:28

Because that's the thing. If Alex is so easily manipulated, maybe Kirby just needs to kind of like put a bit of that hat on and be like, I've got you, babes. I I can see what's happened, I've got you on this, we need to stick together. Yeah, which is kind of what she was like the whole time. She's never really let that go. But be a bit more, pull her together, put the wheels back on, and be like, do this and do this and do this, and we'll be fine.

SPEAKER_01 47:49

Mmm. So you think the the broken down master can be Oh, it can be pushed to the next rest stop. Absolutely. It can be poked to I don't know. I'd be tempted to get rid of her. Because they also did they also talked about who else they could seduce. I think they mentioned Claudia and Tully.

SPEAKER_00 48:06

Tully, of all people.

SPEAKER_01 48:07

Yeah. Tully has been given a lot of like backstory. And the first week it was like they made a note to mention that she was like there for the money. Which I was like, interesting. She's the only one they've done that way. Yeah, so that's why I'm like, I feel story-wise, Tully's going far.

SPEAKER_00 48:29

Are you about to get a sad story from Tully like she needs it for her mum's medical bill or something? Yeah, okay, right then. It's gonna be some shit like that. I'll save my judgment on Tully until the next time I hear from her then.

SPEAKER_01 48:40

I wouldn't mind seeing Tully in the Conclave. More so than Claudia. I don't really need Claudia in the conclave. No, no, yeah. Good one to sacrificial lamb kind of Kira would not last five seconds in the conclave. She woke out the breakfast, she goes, Oh, so last night the conclave, the cloak was a bit itchy. What's that? And they'd be like, sorry. It's really cold up there.

SPEAKER_00 49:01

So cold. Oh my god, my nipples could cut glass. Oh god. Lid Hero. Yeah. Yeah, fuck. But that's the thing. I always I'm always really interested whenever I watch a reality show and how like the production in the background goes. And they all go to bed. How do they get those three? Fascinate.

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This show has some logistics. I want to know. They're like in this like set, and then they all go off to like hotel rooms or something. And like I thought they were like maybe they're obviously not sleeping. No, they don't stay in the in the castle of the nowhere or whatever. So there's twice there's 20 cars coming. Yeah, totally. And one of and three of the cars via okay. Yeah, they'd be filming up, they'd be up all night. Yeah, they would have a strategy for some people. They literally like look at the eyes, and that's why everyone's always like, Oh, I didn't sleep. Because I was stressed. That's it's like, were you stressed or were you up filming the show?

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Yeah, see, see, I don't think of that, and I love that because that's I would do that as well. I would think, yeah, you've really bloodshed in the eyes. Yeah, I was drinking a lot last night. Sorry. Whoops. Like I stayed up all night masturbating and crying. Thinking about AJ. Ooh, definitely not you.

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Scotts dam. Well, Joel, thank you so much for joining me on the couch this week. Thank you for having me. You've got the funnest fucking week to talk about. Oh, it was so good. Um, I'll see you soon. Thanks, baby. Bye.