Election 2024 (A Timely Episode Recorded Nov 7, 2024)

Recorded just two days after election 2024 in the United Stated, we take a look at Presidential politics, mass media, and how Christian world view can impact a believer's decisions in the voting booth.

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Transcript

Chad [00:00:02]:
So, like, if you're in this boat, if you feel absolutely despondent that Donald Trump won the election, first of all, I doubt you're still listening. Second of all,

Dave [00:00:13]:
that's that needs a truth bomb right there. I like the tinkling glass of that. That's good. Yeah. That was a truth bomb.

Chad [00:00:53]:
We are live on the air not live but We are alive. We are alive. Yeah.

Dave [00:01:01]:
Wow. Yeah. Good times. Indeed. But time was had by all?

Chad [00:01:06]:
Good time had by 52%

Chad [00:01:09]:
of the

Dave [00:01:09]:
country, I guess. 51a half, something like that. Yeah.

Chad [00:01:13]:
Yeah. Fair.

Dave [00:01:14]:
Welcome to Catfish Ministries. Couldn't see this coming. It's a current events episode.

Chad [00:01:23]:
This is a fun one, though.

Dave [00:01:24]:
It is. Well, fun for you.

Chad [00:01:25]:
It's a little more fun.

Dave [00:01:26]:
Yeah. It would

Chad [00:01:26]:
have been.

Dave [00:01:27]:
But Yeah.

Chad [00:01:29]:
Even if we had lost, God would still be on the throne.

Dave [00:01:32]:
That's right. And you know what's really funny? I I, I am the guy at work who was kinda upset at how everything went, and I said, you know what? Jesus is still lord. And, you know, he he I am ed back. No. He said, when Hitler murdered 6,000,000 Jews, Jesus was lord then too. Oh,

Chad [00:01:53]:
wow. Yeah. Wow. That's wow.

Dave [00:01:55]:
Yep. See so here so here's the

Chad [00:01:57]:
thing on the Hitler thing.

Dave [00:01:58]:
But real quick. Yeah. I what I sent back was the graphic of the, soccer fan with the upset face and his hands on his hips like Yeah.

Chad [00:02:08]:
There you go. There.

Greg [00:02:09]:
I just there were there were from from 2016 to, 2020, there were how many people did Trump kill? I'm Oh, well, 4,000,000 if you count COVID. Oh, yeah.

Dave [00:02:26]:
And you have to count COVID because We

Greg [00:02:28]:
have to. Yeah. Yeah.

Chad [00:02:30]:
Because it

Greg [00:02:30]:
was Trump's 4,000,000. Yeah. Probably more. Probably 4,000,000,000. Yeah.

Chad [00:02:37]:
He did it he does, he does huge

Greg [00:02:39]:
Well, be it was probably like, how many died from injecting bleach into their veins?

Dave [00:02:46]:
This is gonna be a fun episode.

Chad [00:02:48]:
Yeah. I don't know how

Greg [00:02:49]:
much That was an epidemic in itself. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Like, it was worse than the opioid crisis, I think.

Dave [00:02:55]:
Yeah. Probably well, not by numbers.

Greg [00:02:58]:
Like, there there were like, people heard him say that, and they ran out and bought bleach and started injecting it.

Chad [00:03:05]:
They did.

Dave [00:03:05]:
Yeah. You know what was really sad about that whole episode? He was talking about using, photonic disinfectant, which is a light treatment that they actually do use for the flu. And if you've used hand hand, hand dryers, they have, like, that blue light on them. There's a few of those around. It's a disinfecting light. No. He said inject bleach. Yeah.

Greg [00:03:29]:
He he was He used that word. Right?

Dave [00:03:31]:
Very serious.

Chad [00:03:32]:
He's been very serious.

Dave [00:03:33]:
He's he said disinfecting. No. I'm I'm sure that

Greg [00:03:37]:
I heard somewhere. The the media told me he said bleach.

Dave [00:03:41]:
Right. Of course, they did. Just like Al Gore invented the Internet.

Greg [00:03:45]:
Oh, man. So the media was wrong?

Chad [00:03:46]:
He also had a lock been wrong. He had the main thing. Gore had a lockbox for Social Security.

Dave [00:03:52]:
So what's really sad about that whole thing is, Trump's grandfather was a PhD, professor at MIT. And one of his signature discoveries was a patented technology to use light as

Greg [00:04:11]:
a disinfectant.

Dave [00:04:14]:
So I'm sure that when he got the chance to talk about that, he was just like, wow. I actually know something about this blah blah blah blah blah. And he got excited and whatever.

Greg [00:04:23]:
And then

Chad [00:04:24]:
they and then he said, wait

Greg [00:04:25]:
up their own spin to try to make them look like an idiot and use it against him. Mhmm.

Dave [00:04:31]:
So, the other interesting factoid for you Yeah. From history, when Nicholas Tesla died

Chad [00:04:37]:
Mhmm.

Dave [00:04:37]:
Trump's grandfather cleaned out his locker and residence. Really? Yes.

Chad [00:04:43]:
Wow. Yeah.

Dave [00:04:44]:
He The one in the

Chad [00:04:45]:
mountains or the one The

Dave [00:04:46]:
the one that was on the East Coast. So he he he, grandpa Trump cleaned that all up because the the Department of Defense was like, is there anything we could use in here for taking out the commies or something? Because I think he died right after World War 2 or near the end.

Greg [00:05:02]:
No. Interesting. Since you mentioned interesting days in history Sure. Should we talk about what Sunday was?

Dave [00:05:09]:
Let's see. What was Sunday? We should. And I'm surprised you brought it up.

Greg [00:05:14]:
I brought it up for you, my friend, Kojita.

Chad [00:05:16]:
Kojita. What about Kojita?

Dave [00:05:19]:
70 years old. November 3rd. Wow. Yeah. So 70 years old.

Greg [00:05:25]:
Surprised that I even had to, like, remind you.

Dave [00:05:28]:
I know. I Sunday. I don't know. Well, I did not think that you would realize that, but thank you very much for bringing

Greg [00:05:35]:
Well, I sent you the message about it the day before. Did you? Oh. Oh. Is Dave rubbing off on you?

Dave [00:05:42]:
He might be. Jeez. Dave, do you remember getting a message?

Chad [00:05:48]:
I'm just over here eating my apple sauce.

Greg [00:05:54]:
See, he does that. And then, like, later on in the episode, he's gonna forget he did that, and he's gonna get upset when we make fun of his memory.

Dave [00:06:00]:
Yeah. This has already happened twice now

Greg [00:06:04]:
Yeah. Tonight. Exactly. This apple sauce is really good. Mhmm.

Chad [00:06:11]:
Oh, let's see. Should they put it in a tube for me? What are you guys looking for right now?

Dave [00:06:17]:
I'm looking for the message on my electronic texting machine. Wow. I get a lot of messages. Yeah. You do. Scott Pressler, Donald Trump, Ted Cruz. We're going back through the time machine here. Yeah.

Dave [00:06:33]:
Was it just to me or to Dave too?

Greg [00:06:36]:
I think it was to both of us.

Dave [00:06:38]:
He was

Greg [00:06:38]:
in our little You

Chad [00:06:39]:
guys you guys send me, like, 75 messages a day. How do I how am I supposed to keep up with that stuff?

Greg [00:06:44]:
Well, most of the kids these days can half of it. Most kids these days

Chad [00:06:48]:
Yeah. I'm not Barron Trump.

Greg [00:06:52]:
You're no Barron Trump.

Dave [00:06:56]:
Oh, let's see. What the heck? Oh, I'm back to Monday. We send a lot of texts to each other. You know that? Yeah. I just found it. Okay. What time was it?

Greg [00:07:06]:
I just replied to it so you can see it. You both can see it now.

Chad [00:07:10]:
Why do I wanna see this right now?

Dave [00:07:16]:
Oh, you did? Yeah. I did. From red state and everything. From red state. Yeah. From red state. Celebrate global Godzilla day

Greg [00:07:23]:
with the rerelease of monster hit minus 1 and major news on sequel. Yeah. It's coming, man. It's coming. There's gonna be a sequel to minus 1.

Dave [00:07:34]:
Yeah. Well Will it be minus

Greg [00:07:36]:
2, or would it be 0?

Dave [00:07:38]:
Yeah. That's that's the big question, or something else entirely. Yeah. Takashi Yamazaki has been greenlit to make a movie, but there's no guarantee it will be a direct sequel. He might just do something else. Godzilla movies are notorious for this. Some of them are, like, one after another, like, when we were kids. Others are they're stand alones.

Dave [00:08:03]:
They just exist in their own universe. So just don't tell. I would like and this is not going in the podcast, by the way. I would like to see him do a time skip into the sixties, another period piece, like 19 sixties Japan.

Greg [00:08:15]:
None of this Godzilla stuff's going in the episode? Probably not.

Dave [00:08:18]:
I mean, there's such a narrow niche of people. I could leave it in, I guess.

Greg [00:08:24]:
They get they they get a window into our into your into your, I don't know what it is you have.

Dave [00:08:30]:
Yeah. Something. See. Mhmm. Thought you were gonna say soul for a second, but Yeah. Nope. No.

Greg [00:08:36]:
But then we lose the whole Dave bit too. I know. Applesauce and Yeah.

Dave [00:08:41]:
Okay. We'll leave it in. Oh, you

Greg [00:08:44]:
woke up. He woke. Welcome back, Dave.

Chad [00:08:48]:
No. You can't see this, but Dave actually was, like, looking down at his phone as

Dave [00:08:52]:
he looked up. He bumped into his microphone. It looked like he was just waking up.

Chad [00:08:55]:
But he's not. I just Dave is It was a nice nap. Dave is nice nap.

Dave [00:08:59]:
Yes. Dave is very alert.

Dave [00:09:00]:
Applesauce was yummy.

Dave [00:09:01]:
And, yes. Uh-huh. He's with us. He is with us.

Chad [00:09:05]:
He You don't have to defend him.

Dave [00:09:06]:
This is the sharpest I've ever seen Dave.

Greg [00:09:08]:
Yeah. I've never seen the sharpest version of Dave ever.

Chad [00:09:12]:
He's so on top of his head.

Dave [00:09:13]:
He got on a

Chad [00:09:13]:
plane, and then fly train. He didn't trip up the stairs. Oh, it's just really sharp. Amazing.

Greg [00:09:21]:
Yeah. Can

Chad [00:09:22]:
I have vanilla ice cream now? Oh, sure.

Greg [00:09:27]:
Speaking of that, have did you see, Don Junior posted, Trump's resignation letter to McDonald's?

Dave [00:09:35]:
I did. That was pretty clever.

Chad [00:09:37]:
That is. That is. That is clever.

Greg [00:09:38]:
I'd tell you. Missed that in the 17,000

Chad [00:09:41]:
No. I actually did see it. Changed today. I actually did see it. Oh, okay. I didn't read the whole thing, but I saw

Greg [00:09:46]:
it. Yeah. A lot of words there.

Chad [00:09:48]:
It's not a lot of words. It's just it had McDonald's at the top, so I wasn't paying close attention.

Greg [00:09:54]:
Okay. Good.

Chad [00:09:56]:
I knew it was something funny, though. Yeah.

Dave [00:09:59]:
Yeah. So I do have to say, no matter what happens for the rest of the lives of most of the listeners of this podcast, between double assassination attempts, third party endorsements, McDonald's, a garbage truck, and everything else that went down, you will never see another campaign like that again.

Chad [00:10:23]:
No. This was epic. This was absolutely epic.

Greg [00:10:26]:
I think one of the highlights was the was the the debate with, Kamala when when he says that, Joe hates you. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And and he was telling the truth. Yeah. I think.

Chad [00:10:43]:
Judging by Jill. I think Jill does too.

Greg [00:10:46]:
Yeah.

Chad [00:10:47]:
Wearing red to go vote. That was just

Greg [00:10:50]:
that was not so subtle. That is not if you went back in the history of time, you would never find a first lady, Democrat, going to vote wearing anything red. Fair. Never.

Chad [00:11:05]:
And she was smiling big when she wore it too.

Greg [00:11:07]:
Yeah. Yeah. There was a message there. I believe so. Yeah.

Dave [00:11:13]:
Likely.

Chad [00:11:13]:
Yes. Oh, no. We we probably need to predicate because the 3 of us are seem sound pretty giddy about this Trump win. So we probably need to predicate this with, like, why did each of us vote for Trump? Was it because of his personal care? Assumption.

Dave [00:11:33]:
Right. You dare assume my vote?

Chad [00:11:38]:
Yeah. Okay. We were at the same watch party cheering for the same thing to happen.

Dave [00:11:44]:
Well, that's what you saw.

Chad [00:11:46]:
That's true. Maybe you were a secret. Maybe you were disobeying your wife, you know, and voting for your past or wife and voting for

Dave [00:11:55]:
Yeah. I probably have the simplest explanation for why I voted why I voted the way I voted.

Chad [00:12:01]:
Okay.

Dave [00:12:03]:
So for me, I am a child of adoption. K. And when I was 8 years old and someone explained to me what abortion was

Chad [00:12:15]:
Yeah.

Dave [00:12:15]:
It happened to be just a few weeks after I found out I was adopted.

Chad [00:12:18]:
Oh, wow.

Dave [00:12:19]:
Because it was a closed adoption because that's how they did it back then for the most part. Yeah. I just remember doing the math and thinking to myself, if I'd been aborted and not adopted, I would not be here. Yeah. So even though it wouldn't be until my early twenties that I came to faith in Christ, my pro life values predate my Christian faith Yeah. By a long margin. And for me, I know I have a lot of pro life friends that were like, oh, Donald Trump. He's he's just content to let the states decide and blah blah blah.

Dave [00:12:57]:
Like, you know, that's been the stated position of most Republican candidates since Reagan. I think Reagan was the last one to run on a platform of amending the constitution to ban abortion. So I had a choice between Donald Trump, who's content to just leave it with the states and let each state decide if they're gonna be a sanctuary state for the unborn or Mhmm. Do whatever they're gonna do. Not ideal, but I can let that happen, or I can vote for Kamala Harris Mhmm. And there will be no safe place because she said she was gonna end the filibuster and ban and, make abortion legal in all 50 states in every territory. Right. No backsies.

Dave [00:13:41]:
Yeah. So that's 49.999 percent of my vote right there. Yeah. And then, I mean, the rest of it I mean, you kinda plug your nose to vote for any politician. Right. Right? I mean, it's it is what it is. But between the fiscal policy and everything else and the idea of a strong dollar and a strong military and, you know, secure borders and everything else, I was like, yep. That's the way to go.

Dave [00:14:09]:
Yeah. So Interesting.

Chad [00:14:12]:
How about you, Greg? Did you, first of all, you don't have to say, but did you vote for Well

Greg [00:14:20]:
DJT? I was born in a middle class family, and I watched my mom. Did you have

Dave [00:14:27]:
a lawn? Was it green? Did you care about it?

Chad [00:14:29]:
Your parents really rich like her parents, though? Like a professor and a

Greg [00:14:34]:
Yeah. No. It it's on issue after issue. Well, to start with, men are evil and corrupt. And

Chad [00:14:48]:
Men like, generic men as in humans or mankind? I mean, or women or not? Oh, Dave. Sorry. Well, you just said men, and this isn't it. Yeah. So we couldn't

Greg [00:15:02]:
And, you know, Bill Clinton was a bad man. And, you know, George Bush, he was a bad man. He did bad things. And Barack Obama was a bad man. He did bad things. And, Kamala did some bad things, and Trump did some bad things. Right. And I'm not voting for their personal lives.

Greg [00:15:29]:
They are going to be responsible for, leading a government that sets policy that are going to impact a lot of lives. And when I look at the policies Mhmm. Policy after policy, the Democrat party is becoming more and more unhinged, just silly. Just Mhmm. Not a not rooted in reality. And the Republican party made a lot of mistakes, but still does a lot of things right. Mhmm. And on abortion, the they they've got it right in protecting life.

Greg [00:16:25]:
And, and we can talk about protecting the lives that are already born now, and democrats will say that republicans don't care about lives after they're born. And I say, yes. We do, and we demonstrate that we do.

Chad [00:16:38]:
Yeah. Much more than they do.

Greg [00:16:39]:
Yeah. Much more than we do. Just because we don't steal your money to do it, doesn't mean that we don't care for the poor. Right. And on immigration, I am an immigrant. Really, really, really don't like the Democrats' immigration policy. I don't like the way they're doing. I don't like the way they're doing it.

Greg [00:17:01]:
I don't think that it's right to reward people that are breaking the law. It's not it's not good.

Chad [00:17:09]:
It's not right.

Greg [00:17:10]:
Yeah. And and immigrant like, legal immigrants like myself and the what was the number in you you were saying the city in Texas or a county in Texas.

Dave [00:17:24]:
Oh, yeah. Ohio, actually. Springfield, Ohio. The population of 42,000, they brought in

Greg [00:17:32]:
No. No. You you, that it was, like, 70% of Hispanics. You

Dave [00:17:37]:
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was a border county in Texas where 70% of the Hispanic population voted for Trump.

Chad [00:17:45]:
Yeah. Yeah. But that was just misogyny. That was just misogyny. That's what the abuse is.

Greg [00:17:49]:
Why did 70% of Hispanics in a border town vote for Trump? Because they saw an out of control, terrible, chaotic immigration border problem that a Democrat government created because it's chaos. Yeah. And and Donald Trump, with all of his mean tweets and, coarse language, had a policy that was so much better

Chad [00:18:18]:
Mhmm.

Greg [00:18:19]:
And he is going to fix it. And I know that they're gonna take pictures of children in cages and run it on the news 247, starting next spring and make them look really bad. But you know what? Biden has had children in cages separated from their parents. They just didn't talk about it.

Dave [00:18:38]:
Yeah. It's true.

Greg [00:18:39]:
Yeah. They kept that hidden because because the media is more corrupt than any politician, and I'd love to talk about that tonight.

Dave [00:18:49]:
I'm sure

Greg [00:18:50]:
we won't. We'll The media if you wanna talk about corrupt

Chad [00:18:53]:
Mhmm.

Greg [00:18:53]:
If you wanna talk about who to hate in this, hate the media Yeah. Because the media is is probably the biggest problem right now.

Dave [00:19:01]:
We we are gonna get to that. Just to dovetail on your reasons for voting for Trump.

Greg [00:19:05]:
And if you're in the media and you're offended by me saying that, I'm sorry. You need to take a look in the mirror. And if you wanna say you're not like that, then why aren't you, like, on the case of everybody else who is like that right now?

Chad [00:19:17]:
Yeah.

Greg [00:19:17]:
I'm sorry. You know, when it gets to it.

Dave [00:19:19]:
But You're good. You're good. No. Tell us what you're really thinking, Craig. On the on the

Chad [00:19:24]:
Good. Good stuff already.

Dave [00:19:25]:
On the immigration thing, I was talking to a friend, Tuesday, actually, before the before the results started coming in. He he was voting the other way. And one of the reasons was he didn't think that Trump cared for immigrants. And I I said, well, I I don't know where what gave you that idea. Yeah. But Have

Greg [00:19:46]:
you met have you heard about his wife?

Dave [00:19:48]:
Yeah. Exactly. I said Which one? I I I personally 2

Chad [00:19:54]:
of them 2 out of the 3 were immigrants.

Dave [00:19:57]:
I I personally can't imagine voting for Kamala if you care for immigrants because her policy of an open border has led to so much drugs, so many drugs, so much human trafficking, and such subhuman conditions for these people to live in that in an effort to make a better experience, they've created the worst possible experience for everybody, both inside the country and out.

Chad [00:20:25]:
Well, let's be honest, though. They're not doing it to make a good experience. They're doing it to change the electorate. But Yeah. Okay. So why did I have 3 p's for why I voted for Trump?

Greg [00:20:36]:
Can we just edit out the 3 p's right there? Yeah. Policy,

Chad [00:20:41]:
policy, policy. Yeah. I did not vote for him as a person. I didn't vote for I mean, there's there's he's an extraordinary person. That that is clear. You I think it was Scott Adams even before 2 before 2 no. In 2016 was saying, you can't say he's an idiot. You can't say he's dumb.

Chad [00:21:02]:
He ran a successful real estate empire.

Greg [00:21:06]:
Mhmm.

Chad [00:21:07]:
He is amazing at self promotion. Yep. He ran and starred in a television show that was the top show for how many years? Like, you're fired.

Greg [00:21:25]:
Was it, like, 14 seasons?

Chad [00:21:26]:
Yeah. It was a lot.

Greg [00:21:28]:
There there were a couple years they did double seasons.

Chad [00:21:30]:
Yeah. Yeah. So obviously, like, 12 years.

Greg [00:21:32]:
Yeah.

Chad [00:21:32]:
And you can't say that he's not a formidable person. Right?

Greg [00:21:36]:
When when he was announced that he was gonna run, they were begging him not to because they wanted to show to keep going.

Chad [00:21:42]:
Yeah. So there's that. And then, you know, I I guess I could say his person there is a sense in which I think he's an extraordinary person, talented, not character. Right. But person. There's also sense in which he had incredible perseverance. Man, I'm just adding p words here.

Dave [00:22:00]:
I was gonna say

Chad [00:22:01]:
Yeah. This is like there's actually there's actually 3 p's now now that I think about it. Policy, which is the big one. Mhmm. And then his person as he's more he's the most capable one of the most capable people I've ever, like, encountered in terms of seeing them in public. But then his perseverance. His his son, Eric, was being interviewed, and he he pointed out all the ways in which not only Trump, but his family was persecuted. His sons were some of the most subpoenaed people in the, like, all time record of the number of subpoenas they've received, and he was threatened with his all of his well, threatened with jail.

Chad [00:22:45]:
Mhmm. Threatened with his children going to jail, threatened with loss of money. I there's I don't know of too many people who would persevere through that. Yeah. And he doesn't have to. He could probably just live in Mar a Lago and play golf every day if he wanted. Yep. But for whatever reason, he I really do think he loves America.

Chad [00:23:05]:
Oh. Because he's committed to from his perspective, saving America. So I guess 3 p's, policy, policy, policy turned into person, perseverance, and policy. So policy is huge right down the line. Yeah. I I almost everything except for the abortion. I would be, you know, more happy if if you would fight for abortion a little bit more, but I understand the realpolitik of leaving it at the state's hands

Dave [00:23:31]:
Yeah.

Chad [00:23:32]:
Which lets him kinda pass the buck down the road. But

Dave [00:23:35]:
Yeah. I am a vehemently pro life person, but I'm also a realist. Right. We have a couple generations of people to educate about what that issue is and what it means Right. Before we can consider Yeah. An a nationwide change there.

Chad [00:23:53]:
Yeah. I I do agree because we you have to get to the hearts of people.

Dave [00:23:56]:
Yeah. And we're not Right now, no.

Chad [00:23:58]:
We're we're not even able to start the conversation real. Right. I wish I do wish I could tell this to the to people that are off the charts talking about they're afraid for their lives. Yeah. That's a lie. Nobody's dying because of miscarriages. Yeah. Right? I mean, they might be dying, but it's not because of lack of medical care.

Dave [00:24:17]:
Yeah. There's there's two examples of, women that died in parking lots seeking medical assistance. And the irony of it is both of them, had taken abortive drugs that they were prescribed by abortion doctors. The whole mail in thing Mhmm. Where you can just that's how they're getting around this. In some of the states, they have bans. You can just mail away, get the drugs, follow the instructions, take them, and pass the child. And you're told that this is gonna be completely safe and blah blah blah, and it's a violent process.

Dave [00:24:51]:
It's a violent brutal process. Yeah.

Chad [00:24:53]:
Sure. Right.

Dave [00:24:54]:
And, yeah, this is not an in home service that you should consider Yeah. Ever. And and the fact that the the Harris campaign and other pro choice people use these women's deaths politically. No. It's reprehensible. Yeah. And to just leave out, oh, by the way, they were trying to do exactly what we are saying is safe to do. Yeah.

Dave [00:25:17]:
Yeah. Insane. So for me, the

Chad [00:25:22]:
the the abortion issue is is important, but not important enough to vote against Trump and vote for Kamala who is saying, we want abortion up to and after right after the birth? Like, how how do you how do you compare? No

Greg [00:25:40]:
state that allows that. Fact check.

Dave [00:25:43]:
Minnesota, New York, California, Illinois.

Greg [00:25:47]:
No. Fact check. There's no state that allows that.

Chad [00:25:50]:
To say it.

Greg [00:25:50]:
The news reporter said it. I heard it with my own ears.

Dave [00:25:53]:
Yes. Yes. You did. Yeah.

Greg [00:25:55]:
The news reporter said it.

Chad [00:25:57]:
So so but to to get back to kind of, like, where I was going to with it is even even those American women who want some sort of legal abortion, most of them want some sort of what they might call a reasonable limit. Yeah. Now I don't agree with that, but that's but it's not as being portrayed by the mainstream media right now. Right. And so I think that's another one one of the reasons that common loss. But, anyway, but but it was a such a small issue. But, anyway, that's getting ahead of myself. But so the yeah.

Chad [00:26:32]:
PPP, policy, his person, and his perseverance.

Dave [00:26:36]:
Right. So that's me. Yeah.

Chad [00:26:39]:
Alright. Not because I think he's a great guy or a pastor or a spiritual leader.

Dave [00:26:43]:
Right. So where do we wanna go next? How about the lead up? The lead up to

Chad [00:26:49]:
Yeah. Let's go, like, the lead up to it and then go the night of and then the the post election. The after party?

Greg [00:26:56]:
Yes. That was delicious. Wasn't it? If you if

Chad [00:26:59]:
you don't know what he referred to, we can talk about that later too.

Greg [00:27:03]:
Yes, ma'am. I I just wanna tell one more story real quick. Please. So I remember Barack Obama, and, so this is, like, the first just some some 2008 election. And as a youth pastor, and I had just become a US citizen, and I was excited to cast my vote for John McCain. Right? Sure.

Chad [00:27:32]:
Yeah. That would've

Greg [00:27:33]:
been McCain. Yep. The first one was John McCain. Yep. And, I I remember this teenage girl asking me who I was gonna vote for, and I said, John McCain. And she said, why are you racist? And in 2008, my answer was apologetic. Like, I was I was really tiptoeing apologetically to try to give a compassionate and, like, tender, like

Chad [00:28:03]:
Mhmm.

Greg [00:28:04]:
Like, trying so carefully to explain that I'm not a racist.

Dave [00:28:09]:
Yeah.

Greg [00:28:09]:
Now yeah. Okay. Nice try. Yeah. Mhmm.

Chad [00:28:15]:
Yeah. That's just You don't

Greg [00:28:16]:
even deserve an answer when you talk like that. Yeah. Sorry. Yep.

Chad [00:28:21]:
It's a long

Greg [00:28:22]:
And and I think that's what America did to that fever pitch from the from the media of racist, racist, racist, racist, racist, racist, racist, Hitler, racist, racist, Hitler. Yep. Yeah.

Chad [00:28:34]:
They cried wolf too many times. Yeah. People They

Greg [00:28:36]:
really have. I I think that, my generation, the greatest generation, Gen x, said, yeah. Right? Watch me.

Dave [00:28:45]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Chad [00:28:46]:
I I think yeah.

Dave [00:28:49]:
Yeah. Me and Greg's generation really showed up for this. We did. We did.

Greg [00:28:52]:
Yeah. Yeah. Dave's generation, they they slid a little blue.

Chad [00:28:56]:
But Truth bomb. I'm

Greg [00:28:58]:
generally sad. Okay. You guys keep We'll let you think that. We'll let you think that.

Chad [00:29:04]:
Have the youngest looking one here.

Greg [00:29:06]:
Have some more pudding.

Chad [00:29:08]:
Okay. That was a lie, but only the that I look the youngest. I am generation x, and I will not be denied.

Greg [00:29:17]:
Let me strain your bib for you.

Dave [00:29:21]:
So, yeah, the the one this one out. Uh-huh.

Greg [00:29:28]:
Alright.

Chad [00:29:29]:
So lead up.

Dave [00:29:29]:
The lead up.

Chad [00:29:30]:
Yeah. I mean, we can do it another way. I think that's a pretty good No.

Dave [00:29:33]:
I I think that's a good so, yeah, the lead up to the election, of course, we had Joe Biden, sharp as attack. Just amazing.

Greg [00:29:40]:
This is the best Joe Biden ever. Absolutely

Dave [00:29:45]:
amazing. So good. And then the debate, the first debate with Trump, and everybody knew there was no hiding it then. Right?

Chad [00:29:56]:
Okay. So there's a statement in the bible that says people are willingly ignorant Yep. Right, of things. And you cannot tell me that reasonable people didn't see Joe Biden and say, I'm sorry. You guys are lying to us. He is not well. And yet somehow they went along with it. Yeah.

Chad [00:30:18]:
As long as they could, I guess. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong about that. But you're right. The the the clearly, the the debate showed it past what they were able to cover over. Yep. And so then suddenly people like, oh, maybe he is. I think yeah.

Chad [00:30:38]:
And I think tell me they didn't know.

Dave [00:30:39]:
Yeah. And I think almost as damaging was the staff's effort after the effect to cover to try to keep the cover up going. When they're like, no. No. No. No. He's totally on the ball from 10 to 4. It's like, wait a minute.

Dave [00:30:57]:
What about the

Chad [00:30:58]:
other 16 hours of the day? Because that's when Russia's gonna attack or that's when the nuclear war warheads are gonna be coming over the And

Dave [00:31:06]:
and how long

Chad [00:31:07]:
is lunch? 2 hours? It's like, wait a minute. It's just time to eat that.

Dave [00:31:12]:
It's like the toddler that does something bad. Right. And then they tell the most fantastical lie to try to cover it up.

Chad [00:31:20]:
And it's, you know, my gosh. Yeah. Mhmm. Yeah.

Dave [00:31:23]:
So, yeah, that was, yeah. I I think the aftermath of the debate was as damaging as

Chad [00:31:28]:
the debate. So how many people do you think really believed that things were okay at the border even though they were saying everything's

Dave [00:31:37]:
I would guess 50 to 55%. Really?

Chad [00:31:40]:
Yep. That just blows my mind.

Dave [00:31:42]:
Well, I'll tell you what, it's a big a big part of that is the media you choose to consume.

Chad [00:31:48]:
Sure. The echo chamber.

Dave [00:31:49]:
So true. Choose to believe. Yeah.

Chad [00:31:51]:
I

Dave [00:31:51]:
remember that at some point, there was a White House briefing when Nancy Pelosi was still the speaker of the house.

Chad [00:32:00]:
Mhmm. And

Dave [00:32:00]:
they were explaining how the numbers of immigrants were mushrooming across the border, under the policies that were that were being implemented. And Nancy Pelosi actually said, I choose not to accept your facts.

Chad [00:32:16]:
That that that ranks right up there with, well, we need to pass the bill so we can know what's in it.

Dave [00:32:22]:
Yes. So these are decision makers Yeah. Speaking like this.

Chad [00:32:26]:
Yep.

Dave [00:32:28]:
And, I mean, you can choose to consume the news that you wanna choose to consume now, and you can choose to accept the facts you wanna accept now.

Chad [00:32:35]:
Yeah. So

Greg [00:32:36]:
So that comes to an interesting point about the the polling and the that demographic of of the boomers. Mhmm. And the boomers went for Kamala.

Chad [00:32:52]:
Yep.

Greg [00:32:53]:
And where it had been traditionally, though, that older generation had been, like, reliably Republican. And, as they've gotten older, so many of them died during COVID and got older. And then we talked about now so many teachers retired and now became boomers.

Dave [00:33:12]:
Mhmm.

Greg [00:33:14]:
But also I think it's that

Chad [00:33:17]:
so

Greg [00:33:17]:
many of that age group there is still caught in the the evening news. Mhmm. The Yeah. That the Dan Rathers, they they they still there is still this CBS News group of people.

Chad [00:33:33]:
Mhmm.

Greg [00:33:34]:
And that is what they they consume is CBS News. Yeah. Yeah.

Chad [00:33:37]:
They wake up in the morning and watch Good Morning America.

Greg [00:33:39]:
Yep. They watch Good Morning America. Mhmm. And they, then they get ready for the day. They do their stuff. They come home. And guess what they watch in the afternoon?

Chad [00:33:49]:
Oprah.

Greg [00:33:50]:
Yeah. The View.

Chad [00:33:51]:
Yeah. The View. Sorry. And, oh, I just threw up a little inside.

Greg [00:33:56]:
And and then whatever Drew Barrymore's short show is. Yeah. And, you know, when Mamala. Mamala.

Chad [00:34:04]:
We need a Mamala right now.

Dave [00:34:05]:
We need a Mamala.

Greg [00:34:06]:
And then in the evening, they're they're watching that or or Andrew Muir on ABC. Mhmm. And that's what they're watching for their news. They're not they're it's not that they're stuck between Fox News and MSNBC. They're they're watching the ABC or CBS for their news.

Chad [00:34:22]:
Well, that's because they're objective.

Greg [00:34:23]:
They're completely, in the echo chamber. Yeah.

Dave [00:34:29]:
Yeah. Yeah. They're cocooned. Right? Yep. I mean, like, if you poke your head up into Twitter or Fox News or, you know, poke around and, you know, Greg, you've talked before. You you get a diversity of news sources. You've got your your go to's, but you also check-in on daily coasts and and the others to just see what they're up to. If you don't do that, if you don't discipline yourself to get around and see what the other side is choosing to accept and believe Mhmm.

Dave [00:34:57]:
Yeah. You're you're not gonna have a clue. And the amount of coverage given to like, I I would argue that the biggest the biggest change in geopolitical alignment in the Q1 of this century is probably the Abraham Accords. And the peace arrangements that Donald Trump and Mike Pompeo and the others engineered between Israel and Saudi Arabia Mhmm. Israel and Jordan, Israel and all the other countries that were aligned, Godder and everything else, and the amount of reporting on ABC, CBS, NBC, The New York Times 0. 0. Yeah. Absolute 0.

Dave [00:35:40]:
Yeah. Americans don't know about it. They don't understand it. I mean, I've told people about it before. I've sent them to Wikipedia. They're like, wow.

Chad [00:35:49]:
See, by the way, this is why some people believe that Trump is the antichrist because the government signed the sign the agreement right now.

Greg [00:35:56]:
Why is nobody scratching their heads saying, how come Saudi Arabia and Jordan and the United Arab Emirates and all of these countries aren't coming to the rescue of Gaza? Yeah. Because Yeah. Abraham Accords. Because they're they're having agreement with Israel. Yep. And because they're looking at Iran and saying cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo. As we all should.

Dave [00:36:19]:
Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. We will. Yeah. Alright. So what about what else about the round? Do we wanna talk about polling? Do we wanna talk about we've kinda hit news coverage a

Chad [00:36:28]:
little bit, polling. Yeah. Did we talk about the border? Let's talk a little bit of the trans stuff. Oh, yeah. Because I think that was much bigger than than what some people thought. Not Yeah.

Dave [00:36:42]:
I'm Than what anybody thought.

Greg [00:36:44]:
Yeah. Trump's I I just read an article today about that that ad that they ran, with that, what was it? The one

Chad [00:36:53]:
The you yeah. Trump is for you. Kamala is for they them.

Greg [00:36:57]:
Right. And it was the trans one, and it was it was a specific with Charlemagne the god. He was in the one commercial. Yeah. And Bill Clinton warned them and said, you have to respond to this. And Kamala's campaign was like, we don't need to do anything. And and that moved the needle 2.3 points is is what I read.

Chad [00:37:20]:
Yeah. So

Dave [00:37:21]:
so I'm

Chad [00:37:21]:
in and around athletics as you know, as our listeners now. And I I did kind of a straw poll Wednesday with people that I were pretty convinced voted for Trump, and I kinda quietly Wednesday for me was no glow Wednesday. That's what I told myself because I wanna represent Christ well. So but, anyway, I talked to these, and I I just asked, well, tell me the top 2 or 3 reasons why you voted in an athletics context. Mhmm. There was a lot of who said because of the transgender question.

Dave [00:37:51]:
Mhmm.

Chad [00:37:52]:
And running up to running up to the election, you've had this, San Jose State has a trans female, I e a biological male playing on their team, and there have been 6 different matches that have been forfeited by the other team because they refused, and they're now wearing a shirt that says boy cut with boy. It's really a genius move. Right? Sure. And and so that's an issue that has now it's finally really hit mainstream, and, actually, side note, I think that's gonna be the supreme court case that is gonna it's gonna make it to the supreme court, I think. Yeah. And it's gonna finally make a decision make the supreme court define help define what a woman is. Yeah. So What what

Greg [00:38:42]:
is a woman?

Chad [00:38:43]:
Biological, female, human, adult. Adult. Yep. Pretty pretty straightforward.

Dave [00:38:57]:
Yeah. So that issue was the stealth issue of the whole campaign because even in the 2 or 3 hostile interviews Mhmm. That Kamala did, it didn't come up. Interesting.

Chad [00:39:12]:
And, yeah, I didn't think about that. Interview.

Dave [00:39:15]:
Nothing. And Trump, he had that commercial, and he had a couple other things. That was not a centerpiece of his rallies. True. I mean, he would mention it from time to time. Yeah. But

Chad [00:39:24]:
it's genius wording. That that I think I don't know if he wrote that, but that phraseology, Trump is for you, Kamala is for they, them. Yep. Perfect. Yeah. Yeah.

Dave [00:39:35]:
And a lot of the traditional voter demographics, you know, African American African American men, Hispanics, Arabs, Asian, these people groups are not on board with that agenda. Yeah. So and that was that was rather targeted advertising too. Yeah. I believe. Yeah. It those are the communities that saw that ad more than anything.

Chad [00:39:59]:
Yeah. And it's yeah. Anyway, we can come back to another time. Yeah.

Dave [00:40:06]:
The other interesting thing about the whole thing, and you're about to see just how much of a political and historical geek I am. I always like to watch where the money goes in these campaigns. So if you walk back to August 1st, Kamala rides in with Democrat mega donors casting money at her feet like we will cast crowns at Christ's feet.

Chad [00:40:32]:
Interesting metaphor.

Greg [00:40:34]:
Yes. One one of Dave's favorites.

Dave [00:40:36]:
I know. That's why it's there. So she comes out of August 1st Mhmm. With $1,100,000,000 cash on hand almost. Trump, $488,000,000. Now after August 1st, there's not a lot of time for fundraising. Everything's go go go. Campaign came in, you start spending this stuff.

Dave [00:40:56]:
With 10 days left to go on the campaign Mhmm. Kamala's cash on hand, just over a 125,000,000. Trump's cash on hand, a 150,000,000. K. So for the last 10 days, he was able to outspend her. Now it's come out Yeah. That her campaign, despite the $1,100,000,000 they started with During the finished with a $20,000,000 deficit. They're in debt.

Dave [00:41:25]:
Imagine what she could have done with our economy.

Chad [00:41:30]:
Do it just yeah. That that that's really funny. The other the other last thing about the run up, I think, for me that I think is important, and I think actually did end up biting her in the behind, was they attempted to be the candidate of feelings Mhmm. And no substance. Right. I'm about joy.

Dave [00:41:53]:
Brat Summer.

Chad [00:41:55]:
Right. And just but just and then refusing to answer questions about policy. Yeah. Refusing take interviews, and they thought it was working because their pollsters were either just completely wrong or lying for them, whichever the case. Yeah. And I yeah. You know, I used to have the great respect for that Nate Silver guy because he seemed so right, but he he called it he was way off too. He was.

Chad [00:42:21]:
He he really thought it was barely gonna it was gonna be close, but it was gonna go for Kamala. I predicted 312. You did. So I I wanted to say it right now. You were a 100% right on the electoral count.

Dave [00:42:34]:
Was Atlas pulling back then? Atlas polling has been the most accurate. Atlas Intel has been the most accurate in 2020, 2022.

Greg [00:42:45]:
No. What I'm asking is when when Kamala spiked, when she came on the state and she skyrocketed in the polling. Mhmm. Was Atlas polling then? And what did what did they show? Did they show that They showed a spike. Okay.

Dave [00:42:59]:
And they showed her with a lead for a bit, but not that long.

Greg [00:43:04]:
Okay. Okay. So they said they did show a spike too. Mhmm. Yep.

Chad [00:43:08]:
For our listeners, you they just need to understand that Chad is probably the most expert non expert I've ever talked about the elections with. Like, you do and and Greg is way more than I am by long shot. But, Chad, I mean, anytime I wanted to fact check something, I was like, is this real? He's like, well, that state doesn't really count early votes early, so that can't be. Or, like, you would say, well, that state does, so it could be.

Dave [00:43:39]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Greg [00:43:40]:
And just

Chad [00:43:40]:
just for our for the record.

Greg [00:43:42]:
Yeah.

Chad [00:43:42]:
For our listeners.

Greg [00:43:43]:
If Chad and I ever have a question about pickleball, we reach out to Dave. Or volleyball. Between the hours of 10 AM and 4 PM. Yes. It's a 2 hour break from lunch.

Dave [00:43:53]:
And if Greg and I ever have a question about maple syrup,

Chad [00:43:59]:
we go right to Greg. Right. Yeah. So Or or Canadian bacon.

Dave [00:44:03]:
Yes. Which he's already told us is

Chad [00:44:05]:
just ham. It's sliced it's sliced. Isn't it sliced round and thin, small, but it's hand thin, like What made you so cook something for you? Okay. Oh.

Greg [00:44:17]:
From the

Chad [00:44:18]:
That and if if any of the 3 of us needs to be a really we need to cook a good meal. It's Greg. Greg is the one that Oh, yeah. He's the foodie. Yeah. I'm all good for pickleball and volleyball. That's all I'm good for. And being the brunt of jokes.

Chad [00:44:37]:
You are good at that. I'd hey. I take it like a champ. So I think that's those are the lead up things for me. Those are the only lead up things for me.

Dave [00:44:48]:
Yeah. Yeah. I would I would say that's a pretty good rundown on lead up. I guess the only other thing would be the 2 debates, the Trump Harris debate. I think, mechanically, Harris won that debate. Mhmm. But, again, as you get downrange from it and it's in the rearview mirror, it wasn't as far apart as you would have thought for two reasons. 1, Trump saying Biden hates you.

Dave [00:45:18]:
And then as the campaign unfolds, you start to realize they're never on stage together. She's she doesn't wanna be seen with him. He certainly isn't saying a lot of good or helpful things for her. Nope. Not much. And then the other thing was he closed the debate by asking the question. He got the last word, coin toss, going his way. He took the last word, and the last word was, if you're gonna do all this stuff, why aren't you doing it right now?

Chad [00:45:47]:
Yeah. That was

Dave [00:45:48]:
We could go down there together and get this stuff done. And he didn't bring it up during the debate. It was the last thing he said, and it just kinda hung in the air, I think, for a lot of people where they're like, she is the incumbent. She has been saying she's been involved in all this stuff, and so is Joe Biden. Yeah. So why hasn't she done any

Greg [00:46:09]:
of this stuff? So, like, on the stuff of, like, mechanics

Dave [00:46:13]:
that

Greg [00:46:13]:
it looks like she won the debate on Mhmm. Was when because I was texting you at the time, and I'm like, oh, he's losing this cool. He's taking the bait. And a lot of that stuff was on, like, women's rights stuff.

Dave [00:46:23]:
Yeah.

Greg [00:46:24]:
But in the end, that women's rights stuff really didn't matter in this election.

Chad [00:46:28]:
Right.

Dave [00:46:29]:
Yeah. Not as much as you would have thought.

Greg [00:46:30]:
So so the stuff that was mechanics that he seemed to lose it on Mhmm. Was kind of not relevant because all those other issues, were the important ones.

Chad [00:46:42]:
Yep. Yep.

Dave [00:46:43]:
Yeah. And I think that the JD Vance, Tim Walz debate

Greg [00:46:47]:
was a

Dave [00:46:48]:
That was beautiful. I don't care what side of the alley you're on. You got to admit that was a one-sided debate. And for me, the most interesting part of it was at the end when they were talking, and it almost seemed like right there on the stage, he was gonna win Tim Walz over Yeah. Right on some things. Yeah.

Chad [00:47:10]:
Yeah.

Dave [00:47:10]:
I'm like, you have gotta be kidding me. And Walz actually caught a lot of grief from the left.

Greg [00:47:14]:
Like, what

Dave [00:47:15]:
are you doing?

Chad [00:47:15]:
Right. What are you He he looked like he was his little puppy. Yeah. Right. The other thing was the look to the camera that became

Dave [00:47:21]:
The the look to the time clock. Yeah.

Greg [00:47:23]:
Sure, Jan. It was that's kinda what Greg looks like when he goes, oh, Dave. Oh, Dave. Yeah. If you're trying

Dave [00:47:30]:
to picture us, that's it right there.

Chad [00:47:32]:
I think JD's is better looking than Yeah.

Greg [00:47:34]:
My my eyes are not nearly as pretty as JD's. Yeah. Nobody's can be. No. I can't. JD's eyes with Greg's hair.

Chad [00:47:45]:
JD for president, 2028. I think it's coming. Yeah. I'm thinking it's a question.

Dave [00:47:49]:
Yeah. And I think that's the other thing last thing on the run up. You can tell a lot about a presidential candidate by the by the vice presidential candidate they picked. It was pretty clear Kamala was wondering, how do I shore up the electoral college? How do I make sure I hold everything I need to hold? Right. It was pretty clear Trump was thinking, what do I want this country to look like in 2050? Yeah.

Chad [00:48:10]:
I think that's fair. Yeah. I I still do not understand why they thought Tim Wells was a good choice.

Dave [00:48:18]:
Yeah. You know what he reminded me of when he was on stage, like, with the arms the Joker, the Jack Nicholson Joker from the 1989 Batman movie where he's, like, going down the street?

Chad [00:48:28]:
There's so many things I wanna say right now. I yeah. He no. He just was not a good candidate. And why they didn't pick Shapiro? That rumor is why.

Dave [00:48:43]:
Yeah. Rumor Jewish. Well, rumor is

Chad [00:48:46]:
He wouldn't he wouldn't run with her?

Dave [00:48:48]:
Yeah. He said no.

Chad [00:48:49]:
Did that Yes. That kinda makes sense.

Greg [00:48:51]:
No. He said no.

Chad [00:48:53]:
Okay. Okay. So they did ask.

Greg [00:48:54]:
Do what well, that has a very strong rumor.

Dave [00:48:57]:
Yeah. Okay.

Chad [00:48:58]:
That

Dave [00:48:58]:
makes sense. And so, yeah, going back to the run for. Yeah. And and going back to the toddlers making the bad excuses that you know are bad, and Conwell's like, well, I picked Tim Laws when I was sleep deprived.

Greg [00:49:08]:
If you were to take a half a wig from Yes.

Chad [00:49:11]:
He Spirit

Greg [00:49:11]:
Halloween and put it on Tim Wells, it remind me of Richard Simmons.

Chad [00:49:15]:
That's probably the safest way to describe Tim Wells in my mind that I've died, like, 25 other ways. I was gonna Yeah. Describe him, but that was good. But the hand the contortions with the hands and the just watching him come down and greet people.

Greg [00:49:32]:
The leg kick and the

Chad [00:49:34]:
It's just it was like watching Elaine dance. Richard

Greg [00:49:37]:
Simmons. Yeah.

Chad [00:49:38]:
Just Yeah. It was. I like that. Richard Simmons. That's that's good.

Greg [00:49:41]:
He he was completely Richard Simmons. Mhmm. 100%. Put a wig on him. Agree. Some some really short shorts.

Chad [00:49:53]:
Just let's not go there. Let's just keep let's just change this topic. On to the day of the election. Day of was was anybody else like me trying to hold back? I was pretty convinced Trump was gonna win. Yeah. So I was trying to hold back my optimism because I didn't wanna be, like, disappointed too much. Mhmm. But that was me.

Dave [00:50:15]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I was pretty sure we were gonna see a scenario where Trump I I didn't think

Chad [00:50:23]:
it was called in. Yeah.

Dave [00:50:24]:
I I didn't think it was gonna be one of these, and a lot of people worried we won't know till Friday or the the following week. You know? I was from what I was seeing and from what I was hearing, I was I told you, I think we're looking at 312 for the electoral college, and I think it's over tonight. So it Even if it

Chad [00:50:40]:
was early early in the morning? Yeah. Yeah. But it was earlier than you thought there wasn't. Because they called it about 1.

Dave [00:50:46]:
Yeah. Yeah. It was because I was thinking, like, maybe Wednesday morning, like

Chad [00:50:50]:
3 or 4.

Dave [00:50:51]:
8, 9, 10, like, 2, 4, or something. Yeah. What time did they call Pennsylvania? 1:30. 1:30. But well, about 1.

Chad [00:50:57]:
So it was close to 2 then

Dave [00:50:58]:
when they called. Yeah. And it it depends on who you're watching and which

Chad [00:51:01]:
yeah, Fox called it first because nobody else wanted to.

Dave [00:51:04]:
Well, actually, Fox called it last because they wouldn't call Alaska. Yeah. They they wouldn't call

Chad [00:51:08]:
it the whole

Dave [00:51:08]:
case ever. Every everybody Well,

Chad [00:51:11]:
but they called Wisconsin. They did. That's So but that was 77. So here's how I know, because I flipped over to another channel Mhmm. And they hadn't called it yet Okay. When Fox had called it.

Greg [00:51:22]:
Okay.

Chad [00:51:23]:
They were at, like, 2:40. Okay. And I don't know what channel that was. It may have been some backwater ABC affiliate from from Marquette, Michigan up in the upper peninsula or something, Iron Mountain, Wisconsin or something. I don't know. But yeah. So but the the way I found out was there there was this you know how they break off and doing the map thingies, and and down at the bottom right was the electoral count, and it was sitting at 267. So so I was going this will be interesting because I assumed because Alaska is so obvious.

Chad [00:51:55]:
Mhmm. I don't think it's I don't remember it ever going Democrat. So Right. So I so I was assuming that he would go to 270 before he hit 280. Right. Right? So then all of a sudden, I looked down. They're having this conversation. I looked down to the lower corner, and it was 277.

Chad [00:52:12]:
I was like, wait a second. And then about 30 seconds later, they're like, we can need to interrupt this. We have a call to make. Yeah. But so so who else called it before they did? I

Dave [00:52:23]:
know Daily Wire did. I know CNN did. I know there there there were a lot of folks that called it before then because after you called Pennsylvania,

Chad [00:52:31]:
that's pretty much There's It's just a matter.

Dave [00:52:33]:
With with everything else that he gotten, there's no other way to to Right. Yeah. For him to not any any combination with any other state on the board at that point would lead to 270.

Chad [00:52:45]:
Yeah. Yeah. Just sweeping the blue wall was just delicious.

Dave [00:52:52]:
It was.

Chad [00:52:53]:
Very satisfying.

Dave [00:52:54]:
Yeah. So and the other the other interesting thing is I know a lot of Americans are like,

Greg [00:52:59]:
how come 7 states get

Dave [00:53:00]:
to pick our president? Well, it's not 7 states. It's 7 states plus the others that agree with them. Right. You know? So don't misrepresent it. It's not

Chad [00:53:10]:
7 states. Against the electoral college is so weak.

Greg [00:53:13]:
Well well, real quick.

Dave [00:53:15]:
The other thing is you can thank Barack Obama for this because he was the first one. His campaign in 2008 was the first one that basically said, here's the 15 or 20 states we don't need to spend a dime on. Because prior to 2008, it was pretty common to have an election office that had significant financing and staffing in all 50 states and the territories. But Barack Obama got in, and he was just like, you know what? His campaign staff was like, you know what? We really don't need to do that. Here's the 20 states that are gonna go blue no matter what we do.

Chad [00:53:52]:
Right. Don't advertise in

Dave [00:53:53]:
Canada. They spent $800,000,000, almost all of it in 8 states. So that's where this whole Yeah. Method of madness started. Do do we wanna explain

Chad [00:54:08]:
in case of fewer listeners don't understand why the electoral college is so important? I don't know. I maybe they Well,

Greg [00:54:15]:
so after the I just saw a video earlier today. Rosie O'Donnell Yes. Is very, very upset that Trump won the electoral college, and this is why we need to get rid of the electoral college because we just need to do a popular vote because Well, he won that too. I know. Nobody told me why.

Chad [00:54:34]:
I know. I guess

Greg [00:54:35]:
it's pretty funny. I know. Right?

Chad [00:54:37]:
Well, there was a one guy today that and I don't I really don't think looking at what the person looked like, they were faking it. Mhmm. But they were like, guys, Trump won. I'm leaving America and moving to Hawaii. We'll see how it goes. Oh, yeah. That's right. But but, honestly, like, it didn't look fake.

Chad [00:54:58]:
Okay. I'll fact check that for you later.

Dave [00:55:01]:
Yeah. But, no, the electoral college is there so that the states are represented at the executive level in in, you know, political speak. That's what they're there for. To give you perspective, if we were to just go with a straight popular vote Mhmm. You could take New York, Boston, LA, Chicago, Dallas. And with those 5 or 6 cities that I just rattled off

Greg [00:55:28]:
Mhmm.

Dave [00:55:29]:
You would have 55% of the population of this country.

Chad [00:55:32]:
Right. So those cities could literally determine the whole

Dave [00:55:35]:
You you would never see another presidential candidate in any place but those

Chad [00:55:40]:
Yeah. 5 issues. Campaign on issues, and they would

Dave [00:55:43]:
That would matter to those cities. Yeah. Yep. And so the electoral college is there so that less populated states have representation.

Chad [00:55:52]:
Get a voice. Yeah.

Dave [00:55:53]:
Yep. So if we didn't have the electoral college, we would lose the 2 party system, which has its faults admittedly. But you would start to see weird comedy. Instead of having 2 massive coalitions forming 2 political parties

Chad [00:56:11]:
Yeah.

Dave [00:56:11]:
These would break out into independent issues. You'd have the don't drain the Great Lakes party. You'd have the

Chad [00:56:17]:
Yeah. Sure.

Dave [00:56:17]:
The, preserve the Colorado River Party. You'd have the, death penalty, anti abortion coalition. You'd have the

Greg [00:56:25]:
You'd have the corn and wheat party.

Dave [00:56:27]:
Yeah. You would. All of these interests would split out, and you would have people walking into the presidency with 20% of the vote, 18% of the vote. You you would you would have a mess.

Chad [00:56:40]:
Could could we add one thing to our system? Canada. Yep. Could could could we do one thing, though? It's like okay. So parliamentary system has its downfalls. Mhmm. But whatever they call that where they get up and they start debating each other.

Dave [00:56:54]:
Yeah.

Chad [00:56:56]:
The right good gentlemen from Ireland or Pierre Polyov versus Trudeau and those. Yeah. Yeah. Though that if we could somehow import that part of the parliamentary system into, I would I would, like, subscribe to C SPAN if that was

Dave [00:57:12]:
what I had

Greg [00:57:12]:
to do. Including the English language. Right.

Chad [00:57:15]:
And just and if you don't know what I'm talking about, go and watch Pierre Polayev debate in the parliament. Oh, that's Canadian parliament.

Dave [00:57:23]:
He's he's pretty quick.

Greg [00:57:24]:
If only he could bring apples into the into session

Chad [00:57:27]:
with him. Much more money. I still wish that somehow he could become our president after, you know, the current one. Well After JD Vance.

Greg [00:57:35]:
Maybe Trump will decree it. Yes. Is it part of did you read all 900 pages pages of project 25? 25? Yeah. It could be in the fine print. Let's see.

Chad [00:57:45]:
I I almost so I was having a text conversation with a friend, and we have some friends that are really distraught. I mean, distraught, like, chin on the ground walking around today kinda stuff. And and I was like, what? It's almost sad except for the fact that they've put themselves into these echo chambers. Yeah. They've consciously done that, and and the my friend's response was, yes. You know, such and such a person, the name Mhmm. Is an adult, and they're responsible for their own. You know? And so if they're sad and I'd like, part of me, the the the kindhearted part of me, that little sliver of kind heart that I have Mhmm.

Chad [00:58:30]:
Really does feel bad for them because they are like, they're distraught. There's there's real distress right now, but I and I would like to have conversations with them, but they're not capable of hearing because they've chosen to be echo chimp. It's kinda like the movie Memento. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Their life is better to be in that Yeah. Cycle.

Dave [00:58:54]:
Yeah. And I do so, like, if you're in this boat, if you feel absolutely despondent that Donald Trump won the election, first of all, I doubt you're still listening. Second of all,

Chad [00:59:07]:
that's that needs a truth bomb right there. I like the tinkling glass of that. That's good. Yeah. So That was a truth bomb.

Dave [00:59:19]:
Yeah. If you find yourself in this, in this boat where you're just utterly despondent in everything else, The recommendation that I'm giving to people is write everything down. Everything that you think Donald Trump is gonna do in the next 4 years, make a list.

Greg [00:59:36]:
It's gonna

Chad [00:59:36]:
be horrible.

Dave [00:59:37]:
Yeah. Everything, yeah, everything that you think is going to be horrible, the death camps, the, you know, the public executions, all the things. Write them down in a checklist,

Chad [00:59:49]:
put

Dave [00:59:49]:
it someplace safe. Yep. Come back to it, and check them off when he does them. Date it. Yep. Like, check it off the

Chad [00:59:56]:
bingo card almost.

Dave [00:59:57]:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Make it a game. No. Just check them off when he does them. Not when people say he might do them or not when your news source says he's going to do it or or whatever. When he actually does it, check it off.

Chad [01:00:09]:
Internment camps. That's the first one on my list if I had a list of.

Dave [01:00:13]:
Yep. So that's that's my recommendation is put it on write it down, put it on paper. And then the other thing is stop and consider who you know that voted for Trump and ask yourself if they're really like the people you're told they are on the mass media. Yeah. Because they're not. See

Greg [01:00:37]:
fascist.

Dave [01:00:38]:
Yes. The worst. So, yeah, that that's the other thing is at some point, you know, you're listening to news sources that have been telling you this stuff for 8 or 9 or 10 years. They've gotten it all wrong so far. At some point, maybe it's time to get a new news source.

Greg [01:00:58]:
And and you listen to the like, I was I listen to Pandora for music when I'm driving, and there were these commercials that would come on about Trump's tariffs, and they're gonna add $5,000 Mhmm. Every year to your budget. Yeah. And I'm thinking, well, you know, I am already scientifically proven because I'm a geek with my spreadsheet and my budget paying $500 a month more for groceries Mhmm. Than I was, which is $6,000 a year Right. More. And this morning on there's a certain show on MSNBC that is hosted by a former republican representative from the state of Florida.

Chad [01:01:45]:
Might as well just say his name at that point.

Greg [01:01:46]:
He jokes. Scarborough.

Chad [01:01:48]:
Scarborough.

Greg [01:01:49]:
And he was joking about the price of butter. And he said $3. Right? Yeah. He said $3, and his wife, Balinski, Bemica, whatever. And she's like, well, it's 7 in some places. And and he's, like he's scoffing at it because he has no clue. He just but

Chad [01:02:08]:
What's it? Covered in gold? He said

Greg [01:02:10]:
I I want him I want him to spend a week with me and live with me Him. And be like, do you understand what $500 a month is? Mhmm. $500 a month is I could renovate my bathroom that I wanted to do, but I can't right now. Yeah. Mhmm. $500 a month is I could retire a couple years earlier Yeah. But I can't. And that's what Joe Biden did to me.

Greg [01:02:33]:
Right. And that is what Gen X Mhmm. Who went to the polls and carried this election Yep. Was looking at with with the economy saying, this is what this economy did to me, and I am angry about it, and I'm fed up, and I want Trump to fix it. Yep. And I don't care if he mean tweets Mhmm. And I don't care what he did 20 years ago with women because he has a proven track record of what he's going to do policy wise for the country.

Dave [01:03:05]:
Yep. Yeah. Yep. And as I'm watching the talking heads on the left unfold, they're not gonna learn. No. They're not.

Chad [01:03:14]:
They're not.

Dave [01:03:14]:
They're they're not gonna learn.

Greg [01:03:15]:
They're gonna pretend to play nice for, like, a month or 2 until Nancy Pelosi rips up a speech or something. And then

Dave [01:03:23]:
So I I don't think they're gonna learn anything, actually, because right now, they're blaming us. They're saying, okay. Listen. We just spent, like, 7 or 8 years telling you your hate filled hate mongers that hate and misogynists and Nazis and garbage and deplorable. Vote for us. Oh my goodness. You didn't vote for us. Why not? Right.

Dave [01:03:45]:
You must be even worse than we thought. Right. And that's the discussion that's happening on the left today, and they really just don't understand. There's a few that are saying. There's a few. There's a few, but but they will quickly be drowned out. That's And

Chad [01:04:00]:
Which is evicted. Which is in one sense really sad Yeah. Because you would think rational people Uh-huh. Are because they I mean, you know, people work on incentives. I really believe that. So what incentive is there to continue to go down this path if it's look what it's gotten you. Yeah. And yet, the bigger incentive is we can keep our market share of the news, and we can stoke this Trump hate.

Chad [01:04:31]:
And so we're gonna we might have a slightly smaller market share, but we're gonna continue to make our money. And and in the long run, it's gonna continue to

Dave [01:04:41]:
divide the country. And, by the way, they won't continue to make their money. Let me put the mass media hysteria in perspective for you. 60% of the revenue that they make outside of campaign season,

Chad [01:04:54]:
which is lucrative Oh, I know what it is. Pharmaceuticals. Pharmaceuticals. And we know what RFK is saying.

Dave [01:04:59]:
He's saying no more pharmaceutical advertisements just like there's no cigarette advertisements.

Greg [01:05:04]:
That'd be wonderful.

Chad [01:05:06]:
Oh, can you imagine? I'm like, this so many it's comedians are gonna lose some of their fodder, though, because it's like They will. They've made so many jokes about these things.

Dave [01:05:14]:
My kids, they look forward to these commercials because they're like, this drug will make you happy. They keep side effects include loss of nose, hair, and spontaneous combustion.

Greg [01:05:24]:
You gotta think doctors are are are on board with that. Can you imagine how frustrating it must be for a doctor? Like, here comes mister Smith again because he saw a commercial. Drug. Yeah. He saw another commercial, and he wants to ask me about

Chad [01:05:39]:
Ask your doctor.

Dave [01:05:40]:
Gosh. Restless Life Care. Do

Chad [01:05:42]:
that, though. Right? What? Why? The I my so Carlson had a interview with a former exec. Mhmm. And he basically said, look. It's not that they're it's not that the drug companies actually think that you asking your doctor is gonna increase the sales because you you can't. You know, it's one of those things where if you're if you don't have psoriasis, you don't you don't need psoriasis medicine, but they're buying they're buying off the media coverage. Right. And so it's their strategy that will allow that will keep the media from calling them to account because they don't lose that mind.

Dave [01:06:27]:
Trying to think of the last time I've seen our news report about a side effect of a drug. Mhmm.

Greg [01:06:32]:
Yeah. Right? The, honestly,

Chad [01:06:34]:
the last time Ozempic was but that's even been pretty quiet.

Dave [01:06:38]:
Yeah. It is.

Chad [01:06:39]:
Hey. It's gonna turn your stomach to stone. Hey. There's a new news feature that says, hey. Is this the future? Like, how long we already know it turns your stomach to rock. What are you doing? Yeah. But there's still the new is this the future?

Dave [01:06:54]:
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, hopefully, that little factoid puts some of the media hysteria in perspective. Yeah. But, yeah, it's it's going to be yeah. As far as the after thing goes, we're 2 days in now. My only other thought was seeing the first protest start with people, like, marching in the streets and everything.

Dave [01:07:15]:
I'm thinking to myself, how much more of this can the American public really tolerate?

Chad [01:07:20]:
Yeah. I

Dave [01:07:21]:
don't I don't

Chad [01:07:21]:
know if yeah.

Dave [01:07:22]:
He's 2 days after the election. He got a majority, 51a half, 52%, a super majority in the electoral college, and we're gonna go marching in the streets, and we're gonna go running around. I mean, this is almost like prophets of Baal from the bible that just

Chad [01:07:41]:
Clap your cells.

Dave [01:07:42]:
Cells and everything.

Chad [01:07:43]:
And It's a great metaphor.

Dave [01:07:44]:
I I I was like, what are you doing? He hasn't done anything yet.

Chad [01:07:48]:
Yeah. So So I I like the boycott.

Greg [01:07:52]:
Especially down below 51% now.

Dave [01:07:54]:
Oh, it is?

Greg [01:07:54]:
It is below 51%.

Dave [01:07:56]:
Oh, okay.

Greg [01:07:56]:
And California has barely over 50% of their vote count. Oh, okay. I think they're gonna work really hard to get it under 50%. He'll still win The popular vote. The popular vote, but they'll be able to say they'll still be able to say it was under 50% of the national

Dave [01:08:16]:
vote. Mhmm.

Chad [01:08:19]:
Well, fascinating. Changing goalposts.

Greg [01:08:21]:
Just yeah.

Dave [01:08:21]:
Just well, California, they wouldn't I mean, how would you be able to fake a vote in California?

Greg [01:08:30]:
They've got weeks to do it still. Yeah.

Chad [01:08:32]:
Yeah. And they they certainly don't need IDs. So

Dave [01:08:35]:
Oh, that's right.

Chad [01:08:36]:
That. Yeah. There's one other thing of the the day of that

Dave [01:08:40]:
Oh, yeah.

Greg [01:08:43]:
That you can't remember?

Chad [01:08:45]:
It was on my list of things I wanna talk about.

Greg [01:08:47]:
But you forgot it? Okay.

Dave [01:08:49]:
Was it something to do with the Bull Moose party? Because that wasn't this election.

Chad [01:08:53]:
I remember that one.

Greg [01:08:57]:
Oh, damn. It's a fist bump there.

Chad [01:09:01]:
Sorry. No. It's okay. I'm just I'm just literally trying to remember.

Greg [01:09:05]:
While we're cutting stuff. You're not cutting that.

Chad [01:09:11]:
You wanna

Dave [01:09:12]:
approve? I

Chad [01:09:12]:
do cut it. Right? Still have to approve.

Dave [01:09:15]:
Oh, that would be a conundrum, wouldn't it? What would we do? Yeah. I don't know. Greg won't approve without it. Dave won't approve with it.

Chad [01:09:24]:
I feel like we have another episode on the aftermath.

Dave [01:09:27]:
I think we probably do because we're only 48 hours into the aftermath. Right. And there'll no doubt be more aftermath. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We probably have a couple more current events episodes coming up.

Chad [01:09:39]:
So Yeah.

Greg [01:09:40]:
We just need to wait for those events to transpire. Indeed. Indeed.

Dave [01:09:44]:
So Although,

Chad [01:09:45]:
you're a pretty good prognosticator there.

Dave [01:09:49]:
I try.

Greg [01:09:50]:
So What will do one after the next assassination attempt? Oh.

Chad [01:09:54]:
I would not be surprised if there's not at least one more. Cutting that. No. I'm telling you. I I would not be shocked if there's at least one more before the inauguration.

Dave [01:10:04]:
Yeah. Well, I wouldn't be surprised if

Chad [01:10:06]:
They should not let those 2 guys be publicly in the same room.

Dave [01:10:09]:
Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised if, Sotomayor stepped down and Biden made Kamala Harris

Chad [01:10:17]:
No. Please do not. That

Greg [01:10:18]:
So there's not so this has already been a discussion. There's

Chad [01:10:22]:
I knew you knew that. You had to because it was out there.

Greg [01:10:24]:
You know, there's not time.

Dave [01:10:27]:
The passage of time?

Greg [01:10:28]:
There's not time for them to do that because if if if if she were to step down Mhmm. With the recesses that they have between now and the inauguration Yep. And cocaine Mitch is his parliamentary tricks

Dave [01:10:43]:
Oh, yeah.

Greg [01:10:45]:
They run the risk of of not being able to get a nomination through if she were to step

Chad [01:10:54]:
down tomorrow. Give that would then give Trump another nominee. Yes.

Greg [01:10:57]:
It would. Yeah. They would there's a reason

Dave [01:11:00]:
I'm pushing for this. Please try it. Yeah.

Chad [01:11:03]:
Do it. Do it. Do it. That's fine.

Dave [01:11:07]:
So, you know, I will my my I guess my closing thought, and it's something you both heard for me. My closing thought on, the after party that we're going through right now Mhmm. Is that I'm very intrigued by Trump's strategy on the transition because he actually founded his transition team 3 months ago, and there's no government officials in it. It's all privately funded by him. Smart. Lot of people think they they don't know where these transition groups come from. It's made up of campaign staff from the inbound president Yep. And staff members of the current president working together to do the transition.

Dave [01:11:44]:
That's not how this is gonna go. So Trump's first time Mhmm. He figured it was a merger because he's a businessman. He knows a merger. Who doesn't wanna make America great?

Chad [01:11:54]:
Right.

Dave [01:11:55]:
He didn't understand the damage that the Russia collusion hoax was gonna cause. He didn't understand that these people wanna hold on to power no matter what, and they really don't care who's sitting in the Oval Office. He didn't understand any of that. New playbook is a hostile takeover. Yeah. He's gonna go in. He's gonna daisy cut out everything that can't justify its existence very quickly.

Chad [01:12:19]:
Yeah.

Dave [01:12:20]:
So I have a feeling that we're gonna see a lot of change very quickly. Elon for Doge.

Greg [01:12:26]:
Department of government efficiency. Oh, yeah.

Chad [01:12:28]:
One question for you guys Yes. For me. What's Vivek Vivek gonna be? He's already got a chief of staff, so he can't be chief of

Greg [01:12:37]:
staff. Secretary.

Dave [01:12:38]:
That might be fun. Although I just don't

Chad [01:12:40]:
I think that's not big enough for him.

Dave [01:12:42]:
I think the smarter pick for, for press secretary would be Alex Jones.

Chad [01:12:46]:
Stop. Oh, jeez.

Greg [01:12:50]:
He would be great.

Chad [01:12:51]:
He would be fun to listen. Oh my goodness. Oh my Who was you know who I thought would be really good was the guy on CNN, the one conservative on CNN.

Greg [01:13:01]:
Oh, Jennings?

Chad [01:13:02]:
Is it is that his name? His name? He would be sharp. I don't know if he would ever do it. Yeah. I mean, his his description the morning after

Dave [01:13:11]:
Yeah.

Chad [01:13:12]:
Where you had those 4 CNN coach anchors at the whatever table where he talks about why Trump won and how this was us, you know, basically a butt peddling that they received from the electorate was really good. And he was one of the few that somehow could stay in the room with them, but still said some really good and hard things.

Greg [01:13:34]:
Mhmm.

Chad [01:13:35]:
I think he would be really interesting a guy to do it because he seems to be able to go toe to toe. Yeah. So where's Vivek? Where's Vivek?

Dave [01:13:43]:
He may not get involved. I he's got designs on Ohio governor.

Chad [01:13:49]:
Oh.

Dave [01:13:49]:
Yep. And after your governor

Chad [01:13:53]:
Presidency. Yeah.

Dave [01:13:54]:
Yeah. So Yeah. Yeah. Him and JD are yeah. Him and JD are very close. So JD is gonna get a shot in 2028, no doubt, if he wants it. Yeah. And, Vivek could conceivably run Ohio for a few years, maybe get a cabinet appointment with JD, and then have another run.

Dave [01:14:13]:
He's like 12. So he could he could run-in 12.

Chad [01:14:16]:
He could run-in the 20 30s. To drive a cruise. I know.

Dave [01:14:20]:
He could run-in in the mid 20 thirties or even in the 20 forties and be a viable candidate. So

Chad [01:14:26]:
He's young like me.

Greg [01:14:27]:
But then Dave won't be able to vote for him.

Dave [01:14:29]:
Oh, well, that's true because if David passed,

Greg [01:14:32]:
I'd be voting democrat. But Yeah. Yeah.

Chad [01:14:38]:
It's that's funny. Yeah. Yeah. That's I was gonna say I will never vote democrat, but then I'm like, yeah. You never know after I die. Somebody might get a hold of my info.

Chad [01:14:54]:
There's the meme of of the young lady, like, crying at a graveside.

Chad [01:14:58]:
Look at my dad voted Democrat.

Chad [01:15:00]:
I'm trying to plead with my dad not to vote Democrat again this year.

Dave [01:15:06]:
Oh, I

Greg [01:15:06]:
think that's a good way to wrap this whole thing up.

Chad [01:15:09]:
Yep. I think so.

Chad [01:15:10]:
So Yeah. We need a part 2 for sure, though.

Dave [01:15:12]:
Oh, absolutely. There will be.

Chad [01:15:14]:
Then we need to get back to some Bible issues.

Greg [01:15:16]:
Yeah. Just remember, all fairy tales start with these words, if elected, I promise. Yep.

Dave [01:15:24]:
So true. Yep. So true. Alright. Well, thanks for listening, everyone. If if you liked what you heard, wish you didn't like what you heard, drop us a line. The fish at catfishministries.com. The fish at catfishministries.com.

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