The Artful Blend of Retirement, Health, and Happiness

Discover the secrets to a fulfilling life after 50, as we discuss the golden threads of post-retirement with Lorie Eubank. Prepare to be inspired by many stories, as we explore the power of hobbies and the necessity of a well-crafted plan to ward off boredom and live life to its fullest.

Transitioning from a bustling career to the freedom of retirement can feel like sailing into uncharted waters. We'll tackle the emotional seas of leaving behind workplace camaraderie and unveil strategies for filling your social sails, particularly for the solo voyagers among us. We also delve into the Blue Zones research that heralds social engagement as a beacon for longevity.

I share my reflections on 'living life in crescendo,' a concept that promises our best days are not behind but before us. Join this discussion in redefining the art of aging gracefully, a vision championed by generations that refuse to see retirement as a decline but a time of celebration and growth. 

Lorie Eubank's Bio

Lorie Eubank, a devoted mother of three uniquely individual children, has a passion for faith and family that shines through in every aspect of her life. With a nurturing spirit, she has served as a Sunday School Teacher for two decades, guiding young minds and hearts toward understanding and love for the Scriptures.

As a Licensed Massage Therapist, she has enjoyed a fulfilling career providing traditional Swedish and Therapeutic Massage, including massage for people with cancer. Her healing touch is a testament to her deep empathy and her desire to bring comfort and wellness to others.

Lorie has discovered that her profound love for books has blossomed into a fervent passion for writing non-fiction literature; fueled by her personal experiences, Lorie endeavors to pen captivating narratives that resonate with readers from all walks of life.

Lorie finds joy in her many hobbies; gardening, hiking, and vacationing with her family.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

So are you looking for more inspiration and possibility in midlife and beyond? Join me, leslie Maloney, proud wife, mom, author, teacher and podcast host, as I talk with people finding meaning in Moxie in their life after 50. Interviews that will energize you and give you some ideas to implement in your own life. I so appreciate you being here Now. Let's get started. All right, welcome back everybody to another meeting in Moxie after 50., and I have Ms Lori Eubank with me. Welcome, lori. How are you this morning? Hello, thank you.

Speaker 2: 0:41

I'm blessed. How are you?

Speaker 1: 0:42

Good, good, we're so glad you're here. Thank you for having me. So let me just give a little background. You're a proud mom of three. I am. How old are your kids?

Speaker 2: 0:54

Nine, 10, and 11.

Speaker 1: 0:57

Okay, oh, my good little stair steps, nice, so you're pretty busy. Those ages are pretty busy, pretty busy yes, the homework is the worst oh yes, oh yes. Um, you've got a massage therapy background and especially with healing touch, very active in sunday school, taught sunday school for, I think, two decades. Yes, and you's hard to believe.

Speaker 1: 1:23

Yeah, it goes quick, it does, and you are a very prolific author. I am working on that. Yes, that's how we connected, because I really thought our meeting in Moxie after 50, our listeners would be interested in what you have to say in the book and how it relates to their lives. So I guess let's go ahead and start there, tell us about your book and how you got into it, and, yeah, let's just do that.

Speaker 2: 1:59

Well. So when I first started writing again, it was 14 years ago now. When I started writing, it was for Sunday school. I was writing a lesson for kids, and it was the first book I produced. After that, 13 years forward, 14 years forward, I wanted to update it based on some more lessons that I've learned and better ways to communicate to the kids. I had to learn the process of using the tools that are available now for self-publishing more books, you know, books that would help people, not just um. I'm not a novelist, but I write for um, as I tell my children. Gto publishing solutions is my business name. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2: 2:59

And my son asked what is the solutions? I said the solutions are what I write. That's what you're putting together is giving people a tool to find resource. You pull all the resources together and then they have it in one nice little package and that's what started this and, for me, for this book. I started because I really am looking forward to retirement. Yes, I have three kids and when they all graduate high school I will be able to retire technically.

Speaker 2: 3:35

But this, this project, was an eye-opener for me because I watched my mom's retirement and I watched my grandmother's retirement and they were almost polar opposites. And I'm looking at my future retirement and I wanted to find resources even for me, to know what are the some of the things that we need to think about. This isn't just for retirees, it's for people to even consider beforehand. You know, at this stage in life, what do you want to do with your future? If you don't start thinking about it now and finding a plan, you're going to find yourself in a place of boredom because you don't. If you, I tell my children, if you, if you make a plan, you have a better chance at succeeding.

Speaker 1: 4:37

But if you fail to plan, then you're not going to have you failed anyways so I think you make such a great point because the pre paving for moving into that next phase after you know and if we want to call it retirement, just so we're all we all understand what we're talking about Although I really dislike that word, you know what I mean. It's like we know what it is, but it's just like you're moving into the next stage. You're not really retiring, retiring to go sit in a corner, You're retiring into that, Exactly, yeah.

Speaker 2: 5:12

You're embracing your the next phase. That's what this book is about, which is why it's titled embracing life's new chapter.

Speaker 1: 5:20

Yes, and the pre-paving of that is important thinking about what am I going to do next and exploring those options ahead of time instead of working right up to that point, and then you step out and then you got nothing to jump to.

Speaker 2: 5:35

Right.

Speaker 1: 5:35

How was it different between you mentioned your mom and your grandmother, how you said you observed their experiences in retirement? What was that like?

Speaker 2: 5:45

you said you observed their experiences in retirement. What was that like? Well, as a kid I observed my grandparents. When my grandmother retired, I believe I was around 12 years old, but she traveled. She was always active, always doing things, not that my mom's not, but my mom retired in a different setting. I'm much older, and so when I observed my mom retiring she doesn't have maybe, maybe she didn't think she did plan. Let me let me say that she bought a house before she retired, where she wanted to live, because we moved her to a whole nother city several hours away, but that's what she wanted, she planned for that and she did great in doing all the prep there.

Speaker 2: 6:39

But in that area there's not a lot to do, and so I find, when I watch my mom, she finds different activities, which those are also, you know, things that I included. She sews, she paints, she does crafts, she works with her plants. All of those are great things, but her, her, um, let me say her choices and the things that she does is opposite what my grandmother did. My grandmother did not sew, she did not do crafts, she did not paint, but she loved to travel, she loved to build on, like she was constantly adding on to her house, adding rooms to where she had no backyard left, because if it was a screened-in porch she closed it in. So she was a visionary in that sense. And then she loved to travel. So when I say that they're polar opposite, neither were bad, but they were different.

Speaker 2: 7:48

And so, for me, I have three small children that are going to be teenagers when I retire. When I retire, do I want to travel? Do I want to do crafts? Do I want to write books? You know, those are the thoughts that you have to put into. What about mentoring? You know, part of what I'm doing now, even with writing my books, is I'm writing books to help young adults right now for planning for their when they graduate, for planning for their when they graduate. The book I'm writing right now is about what is? How do you achieve adulthood? You know you graduate. You've been living at home. Now you need to be given the tools before you step out. What are the things that you need to be thinking about? So, for me, mentoring, volunteering, are my choices.

Speaker 2: 8:48

So I see the spectrum from my grandmother freely traveling, you know, invested with her, with the company she retired from and she's a, she was able to do a lot. And then I see my mom. She, she retired from the company, she bought a house, she invested in that way and then she was able to be settled. Well, where do I want to? Where do I want to bring that together? And so retirement activities was for that purpose, was one helping me to see it. But in doing the research I had the opportunity to talk to retirees, people that were about to retire, things that they were thinking about, what they put into it. Because I know I couldn't ask my grandmother anymore because she passed what made her plan the way she did. And with my mom she planned. She didn't want to be dependent on anything, you know, she wanted to be free, so her choices were based on that and I think too you.

Speaker 1: 9:58

We have to assess are we an introvert, are we an extrovert? How much interaction? I mean we all need.

Speaker 1: 10:03

We all need, whether, even if we're an introvert, are we an extrovert? How much interaction I mean we all need. We all need, whether, even if we're an introvert, we all need interaction with people, correct? So balancing those solitary activities, like you're describing a lot with your mom, a lot of those activities sound very solitary and maybe that's what she's looking for right now. Versus, it sounds like your grandmother was out there externally, you know she was amongst a lot of people, and that varies depending on where we're at in our life too.

Speaker 1: 10:34

Did you go through any assess in the book? Did you go through any assessments about that? Or talk with people about those differences? Or talk with people about those differences?

Speaker 2: 10:45

Well, because I saw the difference with my mom and my grandmother. When I did talk to people. I asked questions, like for people in my church, if I talk to them about their retirement. I asked what are the things that you looked forward to when you left your career? What did you find value in? Not that it was about a monetary thing, but where did they find the value in their time? Because that's what it's all about. It's about our time.

Speaker 2: 11:22

You know, what are we going to do with the time that we have? Right and that was my focus was just to find one, provide options. You know different, different things to think about. You know, you may have painted when you were a kid and really enjoyed it, but you were never encouraged in it. So you put your focus on your studies or whatever. Put your focus on your studies or whatever. That was me. When I was a kid, I was not encouraged as much about art or crafts, so I kind of laid it aside, but I love those things. I focused on school, I graduated, I went through life. I still had those desires, but now I've learned to paint and for me painting is one of the most relaxing things that I can do. You know, if I have the time to set up a table with paint and my easel, I love to paint.

Speaker 1: 12:25

But it's not something for everybody. Yeah, and reconnecting with some of those childhood, the childhood things we enjoyed that we might have put down for different reasons.

Speaker 1: 12:37

I think, is a good place to start, because a lot of people they've been so busy with many times raising a family in their career and they've been go, go, go and they've had to put things aside and so they get to the end of their career and they go. All right, I don't even know really who I am at this point and what I like and what I dislike.

Speaker 2: 12:58

Did you find that interviewing people A number of the people that I talked to that were already retired were successful in their retirement and they found volunteering was a great thing. Like I, we have an adopted grandmother that we um from our church, that she loves to volunteer at the local um ministry assistance. We I have friends that love to travel. They love to go to the museums. Something that they enjoy is just being by themselves walking through the museums. They enjoy being able to do what they want without the requirements of somebody else's schedule or a nine to five schedule. Sure, many laugh that I can get up when I want I'm. Most people have told me when I talked to them they set their routine, so they were used to from 30, 40 years of getting up every morning they would get up and they would already have a plan for their day. I love seeing that. I love seeing that it's not um.

Speaker 2: 14:16

The suggestions that I had were recognizing that you have a day in front of you and I this is I know that this is like really small, but it's also really big Recognizing that you have the day, a set number of hours, to choose what you want to do. You can choose to spend that time with people. You can choose to spend that time by yourself. You can choose, but the best part is you get to choose. Yeah, it's getting to choose not having your day set before you. Like, my day is set before me to do my job. You know, I started early today so that I could take this break to do this interview, but I still have my job to do interview. But I still have my job to do. So I have from eight to five. I have a requirement to focus on certain things.

Speaker 1: 15:19

You have the freedom in retirement right, it's not I have to, it's I get to, exactly, and that's a big reframe. That's a big reframe, very much so, yeah, and I think that's a big reframe.

Speaker 2: 15:30

That's a big reframe. Very much so.

Speaker 1: 15:32

Yeah, and I think that's true for everybody throughout life. I mean, we're always making choices, but I think it's a really nice reframe in retirement in that second or third act of what do I get to do. And you made a point about having somewhat of a schedule. I think in the beginning that is very helpful, especially if you've been on a schedule which chances are you have been, as you're transitioning into this new lifestyle. Just to sort of stop everything is probably going to disorient you, and so having some things built in schedule wise is probably a nice transition and you can sort of pick and choose as you go what I want to put in and what I want to weed out. Right, yeah, did you. So what were some of the other things you talk about in the book that you think are important to highlight?

Speaker 2: 16:30

Well, one of the things that I point out is, if you want to travel, you can choose to travel with a group or you can travel with by yourself. My grandmother did both. She traveled as a group with a senior citizen, a senior center that she affiliated with, but she also traveled with my grandfather, you know, and they enjoyed. They enjoyed both ways, having different people around. The other part is having connections. The other really big part is having connections. Big part is having connections. You go from working your nine to five job your whole life and then suddenly you're not getting up and you're not going into that office to be around those same people every day, and for a lot of people that is where they have the most difficult time.

Speaker 2: 17:37

One of the things that afterwards that I wish I would have recommended in the book is that when you're planning your retirement, consider that first month creating your own calendar to fill your days. Fill your days in that first calendar with a variety of things. If it's a weekend trip, a one week, you know, because your retirement was, I want to travel. Take that first trip, but plan something for every day. When you do that, you'll allow yourself the opportunity to see a variety of options, you know, and I'm not saying fill it with everything the same, but fill it with multiple different things so that you can one see how you enjoy the freedom of doing that thing, the freedom to paint or draw or read books. You know, maybe set yourself a challenge to read X number of books in the month and have and set those goals.

Speaker 2: 18:45

When you do that, you still have something to look forward to. Yeah, still have something to look forward to, yeah. And after you've experienced all of those freedom things, then you can move forward to the. Okay, yeah, that was fun. There's other ways to have fun.

Speaker 2: 19:05

So, you know, finding different groups, finding community centers. Even in my local area we have, you know, we have three, I want to believe, I want to say three different senior centers within five miles. They're not retirement homes, they're senior centers. They have a bus that comes out and they will be picked up and they go do different things and for me, I look forward to doing things like that being able to go in fellowship and have other people to talk to. But, like you said a minute ago, are you an introvert or an extrovert? So that's why I say, if I could have put this in the book, it would have been that it would have been an update to say plan for your first month, fix your plan and stick to that plan, because sticking to the plan and saying, okay, but it's still different, stick to that plan, because one it's taking you from your everyday routine to a new routine with a lot of variety, so that you can start planning afterwards, because you're going to start filling your calendar for the next month with things that you really enjoy.

Speaker 1: 20:25

Yeah, and I think that we have to talk more about it's going to be uncomfortable. You're making a transition, you're stepping outside your comfort zone of what you've been doing maybe for a long time. You're in a different routine. It's going to feel almost like starting a new job or anything new like that. It's going to feel like, oh, exciting, but maybe a little uncomfortable and just knowing that you will settle in, you will find your way, but you're going to be sort of navigating that. I think the yeah, the, the fill your month with a bunch of different activities to sort of try out and keep you moving. Keep you moving, not sitting around. And you also stress the, the moving away from the work friendships, because it's different, it when you leave, you may have some good friends at work that you're used to seeing and, of course, you're not going to be in that same routine, and so that will be a change and there might be even some grief in that letting go. It's. It's always a little uncomfortable letting go of something.

Speaker 1: 21:36

And even if we you know whether we liked it or we disliked it, it's still a change.

Speaker 2: 21:41

Right.

Speaker 1: 21:42

And I think this aspect is. You know we talk so much about the financial aspect of retirement but we really don't do enough to talk about this particular aspect of the social connections. We know that that is so important. That's probably the most important thing is finding those new social connections in different ways. The Blue Zones is such a big deal right now with Dan Buettner talking about these different areas of the world. There are six or seven of them where people live well, almost into the 90s and 100. A lot of the population does and they go through the different. What are the factors that are similar and that are common amongst these cultures? And of course they looked at diet and so on and so forth. But one of the common elements is social connection, whether that be with fans, that's a mixture of family and friendships and really seeking that out and to find, to find the connection so that your retirement is not lonely, because there are some lonely retirees out there just kind of sitting there, not not reaching out, because there are so many choices.

Speaker 2: 22:57

Right. Well, I chose my book cover. I did some questions and I had asked several people about the cover designs that I was working on and one of the things and you said it a minute ago about the grief of losing those work connections. That's real, it's very real, and one of the biggest comments that I received from the retirement community connections that I had on Facebook when I was writing this is so many of the books that are out always show a couple on the front and they said it's so.

Speaker 2: 23:43

It's so difficult for a single woman, who may be single by choice or single by single by widowhood, maybe single by choice or single by single by widowhood or divorce that they don't want to pick up a book that looks like oh, it's only about couple things. You know there's, there's so many and that's it actually doing. The cover design helped me to rethink what I was putting into it as a content, because everybody's not in a couple situation. I'm not. I actually started writing it from that perspective, but it's not. Um, it's not where I'm at. I'm single. I'm a single mom. I've adopted three children. That is my choice, but there's some people that are in singleness not by choice, like I said from widowhood and so to see things only pointing to things that couples do.

Speaker 2: 24:42

The dynamic changed for me when I started rethinking what I put in it as content, because everything's not going to be with somebody it's.

Speaker 2: 24:53

It's better to look at those opportunities that you can do standalone or with somebody, because the truth is sometimes when you are a couple and you retire, you're not. If the woman has been at home for a while and suddenly the husband is home, the woman is like, okay, I had my routine and you're kind of interfering in it. Now you need to go play golf, you know, I need my quiet time, you know, and so I had that was one of the comments that I had was one of the people that retired from where I work. He said the only hard part about this is that my wife is going to make me find a you know something else to do. He's like her honeydew list grew exponentially so that she could keep me actively doing something, because otherwise he was right underneath the verb, because he didn't know what else to do, especially for men. Men find their identity in their job yeah you know, women do too.

Speaker 2: 26:04

But women also maybe transition a little bit easier to that life after that next chapter in life, because they've found crafts, they've done sewing, you know, there's all those other little activities that they do and they can embrace. Oh, I haven't been able to do this the way I wanted to. Now I'm going to. But for men, that was one of the focuses when I you know, as far as the way I wrote, some of the content was addressing that they, men can crochet. Did you know that there's a whole group on Facebook dedicated to men crocheting Nice? I did not know that and I wouldn't have even thought about it until I started doing the research of activities for men in retirement. And what's interesting is some of the men started doing it, as during COVID shutdown, just as something to do because they're like I, they had nothing else to do.

Speaker 1: 27:15

Yeah, the the the point you were making, um, about couples having to renegotiate. Uh, I I can tell you I have several friends that um were their husbands were retiring and they were very worried about the adjustment it was going to be for them Because, exactly what you're saying, they were in their routine, they had maybe retired earlier, whatever their situation was, and they just like, yeah, we need to renegotiate this, and that's another thing. I don't think whether you're single, because there are so many single people out there and that's. That's a whole other situation. But when you are a couple, I think that negotiating of the time and where our priorities are going to be at this, at this time, this season of our life, we don't talk about that enough either and it can be a sticking point. I've talked to couples where they didn't. It was, it was a little bumpy, it was a little rocky beginning, as they figured that out. We'll do some things together, but we also need to have our own things going as well, it's kind of like when you first start dating.

Speaker 2: 28:27

Yeah, you know, when you first start dating, everyone will tell you you need to make sure that you have time for yourself. Well, for a couple, they've enjoyed that time together in the evenings, their weekends together. They're used to that time, but they're also used to separate time, so finding that balance is important. You know whether the man is playing golf or even finding, you know, walking partners. You know men at their level to go walk with, yeah, you know, to fellowship with, because that's important for men their identity Most most of the time. If you were to ask a hundred people, you would probably have a very high percentage of men that found their identity in their job, you know. And when that's gone, what do you do?

Speaker 1: 29:25

Yeah, I was reading an article this morning talking about this gentleman in his seventies who had gone back to work on his masters which he was.

Speaker 1: 29:36

He wasn't just doing it to fill his time. He was doing it because he was very serious about it, what he was studying, and he was going to use that in his future goals. And his comment was about all the students in the class who were in their thirties, forties, fifties, who were sort of giving him the old little pat on the head oh aren't you cute. Oh, look at you filling your time, staying, staying active, both this is going to be so good for you cognitively, etc. And he said it was, he felt like it was. They were well-meaning and clear, clear ageism. And they didn't even realize that they were well-meaning but they didn't realize how condescending it was, right, almost going back to the toddler years of oh aren't you cute, look at you taking those.

Speaker 1: 30:23

Oh my goodness, yeah, and um, I so I think this conversation, taking it up even another notch of, we're looking in this season of our lives to expand ourselves, to grow just like we've been doing our whole lives, as we each decade, and that will continue. It's, you know, it's yes, about leisure and filling time, but filling time with purpose and meaning, right, did you see some of that in writing the book and interviewing people?

Speaker 2: 30:58

Well, there is a section about taking classes online, taking classes at the university, not just about connecting with people in person but exactly what is the thing that you would love to study more than what you were doing? Your nine to five job wasn't your final step in educating yourself. You know I even talk about encore careers. You know, for me, writing will be my encore career per se, not because I have to, but because I want to. You know, you can turn something that you were passionate about. Take that time to study more and then take it into a new career being your own boss, yeah, and that you know had. That's more of what the encore career for me means is having that opportunity to be your own boss, to study, look for the thing that really stirs you, that drives you each day, and finding a way to put that to work.

Speaker 1: 32:23

Yeah, stephen Covey's last book that he wrote with his, he's the seven habits for highly effective people guy. The last book he wrote along with his, he's the seven habits for highly effective people guy. The last book he wrote along with his daughter, I believe.

Speaker 1: 32:35

The title is live life in crescendo, which, of course, the crescendo is, though, and I love that, because, we don't know, our best years are ahead. I mean, I think living with that attitude of our best years are ahead and we will continue to contribute sets us up for a really healthy, fulfilling encore or second or third act as we move forward, and I think this generation is redefining what it means to age. When I say this generation, I mean the I'm sort of right. I always consider myself more of a. I'm right at the end of the baby boom, depending on whose numbers you look at, and right at the front of generation X, and so I feel kind of caught in between the two generations, but those two generations are reimagining what it is to age and to age well, and I think we're going to see, hopefully, some changes in the attitudes about aging and what is possible.

Speaker 2: 33:43

Right. Well, you know, when I, when you were talking, it brought me brought to my mind. I remember as a kid I remember that watching my grandmother in retirement. So my grandmother loved to dance, she loved music, she loved life. But I saw the spectrum, the polar opposite in some of my friend's grandparents, or opposite in some of my friend's grandparents, where they were barely moving, they sat in their chair every day. If you went at any point in the day to see them, they were going to be sitting in their chair and they looked older.

Speaker 2: 34:28

And it's not about an appearance per se as much as it is a countenance. You know, their countenance was old and tired, which I think is. You know, we think retired, that's what, that's the image that people see. But when I got to observe my grandmother in her retirement, it was a celebration. And that's what my hope is with my book is to recognize the celebration of retirement Not just about the okay, I finished my career, but it's a celebration of life. The okay, I finished my career, but it's a celebration of life, all that you've accomplished up to that point.

Speaker 2: 35:17

And now you get to make your own choices. You get to be your own boss. Whether you want to play in your garden all day, whether you want to sit and sip lemonade, you know, whatever that looks like for you, have a vision for it. You know, my grandfather would always say that, my grandmother. He would say could you please turn that off? Because if she looked out the window, she was always imagining what could she do, what? And when he closed in her last back porch, he purposed the next time. She said I need a little deck over here. He said I am separating it from the house because you can't keep adding to this house. But that's what she did is, if she sat down and started looking out the window, it was always thinking. She was always thinking what can I do next? What can I? What can I improve? Yeah, not that it was bad at the moment. What could I do to enhance it, to improve it?

Speaker 1: 36:35

right. Her create, her creativity was correct. You know, part of her creativity was in that house exactly, and what she could do there and really what we're ultimately talking about here is mindset, which it follows us throughout life and certainly plays a part in this. In this stage of life as well, Mindset matters. It sounds like a cliche, but it how we approach it.

Speaker 1: 37:01

We, we have to or we get to and it doesn't matter how much money we have in retirement. It really is about how we think of ourselves at this age, how we view aging and how we think about what is possible for us at this time right, right.

Speaker 2: 37:20

I remember being told you just wait until you're 30 years old. It'll hit you like a ton of bricks and on my 30th birthday I laid there thinking when are the bricks going to fall? Because it's just a number to me. Yeah, it honestly is a number and I'm inspired. I'm inspired by my grandmother in that she always just loved what she presented to me. She loved life, what she presented to me, so that she, this life that I live, matters every day. Every day it matters. And if I can inspire one person to take hold of their life, you know, on their next chapter, to let it be all that it can be, take the opportunity to do all that you can do. You know you may have financial. You know I don't like the word fixed income, I don't prefer that term, but I do understand that there are limitations for some people in their retirement. But that limitation doesn't have to stop you from living. You know, I.

Speaker 2: 39:06

It doesn't have to stop you. You can still choose to take each day and learn from. What can I do to make this day better? Is it read a book and be inspired to do something new? Is it pick up something that you haven't done for years and find that joy again? You know there's. There's so much, so much opportunity in life. I, I am personally. I had a heart attack last month and in that.

Speaker 2: 39:49

but I'm here now, yep, and I look at each day as a gift. Now I don't think about the heaviness of what I went through. I'm looking at I have new opportunities. I have new opportunities every day, even in my non-retirement years. I have new opportunities every day to be an inspiration, to be encouraging and to learn and grow. And if we do that in our retirement, how much better is it going to be?

Speaker 1: 40:29

Yes, yes, all we got is today.

Speaker 2: 40:33

That's right.

Speaker 1: 40:34

We have is today and our impact we have today, exactly Anything else you want to say about the book? Where, maybe, where we can find it?

Speaker 2: 40:47

Well, right now it's on Amazon.

Speaker 1: 40:49

And those are the places for the well I yeah and retirement activities embracing life's new chapter, and I'll have all of that in the show notes and um any other details if you want to contact Lori and connect with her. And, uh, this has been such a really good conversation. I think we teased out a lot of the questions and issues that come up for people in this in this season of their life.

Speaker 2: 41:22

I've enjoyed it. Yeah, thank you for the opportunity.

Speaker 1: 41:25

Yes, all right. Well, bless you. Bless you, and we we wish um continued wellness down the road as you heal, and, uh, we look for more books from you. Do you have anything coming up?

Speaker 2: 41:39

uh, behind this one I am about to start promoting again because it's a spring book, is my beginner gardening with children or with kids, and that one, of course we're in the spring. It's not just for parents, it's for grandparents too, you know, involving kids in gardening, whether it's flower gardens or vegetables. But right now I'm working on a book for teens and that is to help them to find focus. You know everything's about all your testing in school, getting everything that you need done so that you can graduate.

Speaker 2: 42:22

But what is the life skills that they're going to need? They're going to need to learn about investing. They're going to need to learn how to interview properly. They're going to need to learn how to interview properly. You know, most of them have probably had jobs in retail or you know dining experiences as servers, or you know wait staff. But they need to be able to go into the future buying a house, renting, all there's so many different things that they need to consider. So, again, my solutions side of the um business is writing books to help people, whether it's my kids, my mastering life skills for kids, teaching kids how to clean, you know, from toilets to baseboards. I didn't learn those things, my mom just did them.

Speaker 2: 43:16

So, I didn't learn them. So if I can teach my kids one, they can be helpful around the house, but they also know how to do it when they leave.

Speaker 1: 43:24

I really like that approach, the solution oriented approach, because, you're right, not everybody just knows this stuff and intuitively, we have to be shown Right. So, yeah, well, we look for, we look for. It sounds like you got a lot of things in the pipeline, so we look for, uh, those things to come out and continued success for you as you move.

Speaker 1: 43:45

Thank you so much, thank you All right, lori, and thank you again, everybody, for listening. We'll talk soon. Bye now, thank you, and while there, leave a review and then maybe share this with a friend if you think they'd like it. In a world full of lots of distractions, I so appreciate you taking the time to listen in. Until next time, be well and take care.