Meaning and Moxie After 50

The Surprising Thing Happy Couples Have in Common

Leslie Maloney

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In this episode of Meaning and Moxie After 50, Leslie talks with relationship therapist and Marriage Therapy Radio host Zach Brittle about what it really takes to build and maintain healthy relationships over time. Zach shares candidly about his nearly 30-year marriage, his decision to stop drinking in 2020, and the realization that sobriety alone didn’t automatically repair the damage in his relationships. His deeper work became what he calls “relational recovery”—recognizing his anger, resentment, and habitual reactions and learning to take responsibility for how he shows up with his wife, children, and others. Together, Leslie and Zach explore the stories we tell ourselves, the different “parts” of ourselves that can take over in difficult moments, and the importance of realizing that our perspective is only one piece of the truth.

The conversation also turns to what makes relationships last, especially as we get older. Zach encourages couples to stop approaching conflict like litigators trying to prove who is right and instead become collaborators building something together. He shares one of his favorite lessons from working with long-term couples: strong couples often have a shared “thing”—a friendship, activity, value, adventure, or interest that gives them a sense of identity together. Leslie shares how she and her husband have found that through activities like dance lessons while also maintaining interests of their own. Ultimately, the episode is about emotional maturity, self-awareness, friendship, and accepting that we’re never really finished learning how to love, communicate, and show up for the people who matter most.

Zach's Info:

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marriage-therapy-radio/id1295458667

https://www.huffpost.com/author/zach-197

https://www.vanityfair.com/video/watch/reviews-therapists-review-disney-relationships-from-frozen-to-the-little-mermaid

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