Faith Leadership: Prophetic Insights from Isaiah and Micah

Is it possible to lead like the prophets of old in our modern world? Join us as we explore the timeless leadership lessons from the books of Isaiah and Micah, offering insights for church and business leaders alike. Discover how these ancient texts urge us to abandon false idols and embrace authentic leadership, with messages of hope shining through the challenges. We dive into well-loved passages such as Isaiah 9 and 53, alongside Micah 6:8, unpacking their guidance on justice, faithfulness, and humility. And yes, we'll keep it light-hearted with a few dad jokes sprinkled throughout to ensure an enjoyable journey through these prophetic teachings.

Inspired by Isaiah, we discuss the necessity of accountability and staying true to one's goals amidst life's storms. Reflecting on Isaiah's leadership during times of upheaval, we draw parallels to today's organizational challenges, emphasizing the need for honesty without harsh judgment. We'll share personal growth strategies, like establishing disciplined morning routines, that can transform leadership effectiveness. By looking to a higher power for guidance, much as Isaiah did, we explore how leaders can find the clarity and strength they need to navigate difficult paths with grace.

Moving on to Micah's teachings, we highlight the crucial role of humility in leadership. Through real-life examples, we demonstrate how arrogance can alienate teams and undermine success. We'll underscore the importance of recognizing personal limits, valuing team contributions, and welcoming feedback to cultivate a collaborative environment. Finally, we reflect on finding the balance between driving profits and genuinely caring for people, inspired by Micah 6:8. Tune in to discover how prioritizing your team's well-being can lead to unexpected and fulfilling success.

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:28

Let's do it, Dr Bozy All right Tim Welcome, welcome, welcome.

Speaker 2 0:34

Welcome, welcome welcome.

Speaker 1 0:39

One other exciting episode of the Biblical Leadership Show. I don't know why that's just so fun. It's just so fun every week just to have fun doing that.

Speaker 2 0:46

I think it's awesome. I think it's awesome.

Speaker 1 0:48

How are?

Speaker 2 0:48

you doing this week Dr.

Speaker 1 0:49

P I am doing just fantastic. Oh my gosh, it's a good week. Yeah, looking forward to a good week here.

Speaker 2 0:59

Yesterday, MLK Day.

Speaker 1 1:01

Yesterday, mlk Day. Yeah, taking MLK Day Yesterday.

Speaker 2 1:02

MLK Day.

Speaker 1 1:03

Yeah, taking, you know, getting back in the swing of things today, yeah, but you know, if you haven't been following us, I think you hopefully have. But we're doing our continue, our series of a year long leadership, taking each chapters of the Bible and tying that into leadership lessons that you can use in today's world for church, for business, for all the above, and tying it in with a little dad jokes.

Speaker 2 1:32

Yes, or a lot of dad jokes, a little bit of Bible.

Speaker 1 1:35

Yeah, there you go a little bit of that. Dr Pease, I think you heard last week he got a little Christmas present, so he's all excited about dad jokes. I got a dad joke calendar, he's got a dad joke calendar and he is all excited about those. How's everything going? Good, good.

Speaker 2 1:55

Very good.

Speaker 1 1:56

Very good, yeah good. What are we talking about this week?

Speaker 2 1:59

We're going to talk about Isaiah and Micah.

Speaker 1 2:02

Isaiah and Micah.

Speaker 2 2:03

Yeah, Now Isaiah, one of the longest, you know.

Speaker 1 2:11

Yeah, that's fine, I can do it Longest books right Longest book.

Speaker 2 2:15

yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 2:17

It's like its own little reading on its side right. Print it out and go from there.

Speaker 2 2:22

One of the things I forgot to say last week because I was introducing the prophets, which we're on right now and if this is the first time that you're listening to us, thank you so much for joining us on this journey together. And so, as we look at the Old Testament, the last part of the Old Testament after the Song of Solomon, we're not doing all the books in order. We are trying to get all this done by the end of the summer, and so the book of Revelation will be our 100th episode.

Speaker 2 2:52

I think that's kind of exciting, and so we had to put two books together in the last part of the Old Testament. So we're putting today, we're putting Isaiah and Micah together and some incredible lessons from those books. We won't have time to get to all of them, but it's important to say and I didn't say this last week and that was my mistake was that all the prophets in the Old Testament have some type of similar theme, and that is they're confronting the nation for worshiping false gods and relying upon other gods other than the one true God. And so there's a lot of gloom and doom in the prophets and sometimes it's very hard to keep reading that chapter after chapter after chapter. But somewhere in each one of those prophets there is a message of hope, and sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it's not so obvious. So just be aware that there is a message of hope. It's not all gloom and doom, and the prophets are clearly wanting the people to turn back to the one true God, and the hope is if they do that, then God will restore the nation. And now they have to pay the consequences of their actions. But as that consequences are done, then God wants to restore them, and that's exactly what the message is all about, and so?

Speaker 2 4:27

But in the book of Isaiah and Micah, some of the most quoted passages in the Bible are from those two books especially. We just finished the Christmas season, so you look at the book of Isaiah and chapter 9, when there's a prophecy about the Prince of Peace, and so Isaiah 53, with the suffering servant, and Isaiah 65, with God's plan for ultimate renewal, and then you look at Micah 6, 8, when Micah says oh, he's told you what is good, that the Lord requires of you to act justly, to love faithfulness and to walk humbly before your God. So there's some just incredible passages in this book, and when we read them, we don't just want to read them and just say, okay, let's just read them to get through. No, there's a message there for us today, and so we're going to focus on some of the leadership principles that we see are in those books and we look forward to it.

Speaker 1 5:34

Yeah, yeah, exactly right.

Speaker 2 5:36

So, yeah, I don't know if we need to do a dad joke before we get started.

Speaker 1 5:41

Well, I mean, I sort of figured that's the only way to really can do it right.

Speaker 2 5:45

Okay, so do you all ever go bowling? Our kids call it play bowling, I mean, you play football.

Speaker 1 5:50

I like the bowling you play, baseball you play basketball.

Speaker 2 5:53

Why don't you play bowling? I mean, you go bowling.

Speaker 1 5:56

Right, it's like you play golf.

Speaker 2 5:58

But I'm trying to think what other sport do you just go? I mean, it's like no, I'm playing hockey, I'm playing whatever.

Speaker 1 6:07

Go-karting. Go-karting there you go, there we go. That's not even a dad joke, but that was a good one.

Leading With Accountability and Self-Care

Speaker 2 6:13

So let's talk about going bowling. Okay, what kind of vegetable never bowls a strike?

Speaker 1 6:24

What kind of vegetable never bowls a strike? What kind of vegetable never bowls a strike? Do not know.

Speaker 2 6:31

Asparagus. Yeah, I knew I was going to get the yellow button, all right.

Speaker 1 6:43

Okay, you got one more here, I've got one more.

Speaker 2 6:45

All right, it's not, it's, it's, it's. You better be careful, because this one is maybe a little bit on the edge.

Speaker 1 6:52

Oh, okay, dr Posey going edgy on me.

Speaker 2 6:55

Yeah, dad, what's your favorite word? What's your favorite word? This is a kid talking to his dad. Dad, what's your favorite word?

Speaker 1 7:05

Yeah, word, this is a kid talking to his dad.

Speaker 2 7:07

Dad, what's your favorite word? Yeah, I don't know. He goes, my favorite word is drool, it rolls right off the tongue. There you go, I'll give you that one. Okay, let's just skip that one. Let's erase that one from the podcast.

Speaker 1 7:21

Yeah, that's all right, I like that one. It wasn't too bad. I like the go-karting one the best that was got a plan. I like that one. It wasn't too bad, it wasn't the other one.

Speaker 2 7:25

Okay. Yeah, it wasn't like. Some other ones were good. I like the go-karting one, the best right, that was a good one. That was really good. That was spontaneous. That wasn't even written down, it wasn't Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 7:37

So, Isaiah, isaiah. So one of the themes of Isaiah, just like in the other prophets, is holding people accountable, Right, and so if you want to move forward in your organization, you've got to focus on the goal, and so the goal for Isaiah was to turn back to the worship of the one true God, and obviously the leaders of the country weren't doing that, so he wanted to hold them accountable. And so the question is how do we hold people accountable in an organization without being so condemning? We can be honest without being condemning. Now, it might come across as condemning because if we're the recipient of that, come across as condemning because if we're the recipient of that, but we need to be very objective instead of subjective, and so I think that's what Isaiah was trying to do. He was trying to be very objective. This is what you have been doing, this is what you need to be doing.

Speaker 1 8:35

And this was during a lot of political turmoil going on and a lot of spiritual decline. I guess in a way right yes, that's a nice way to say it Very much spiritual decline of the country.

Speaker 2 8:46

The leaders of the country were leading in that. Now Isaiah and one of the most amazing passages in the whole Old Testament is Isaiah, chapter 6, when he has this vision from God and he has this vision of a holy God, and then he realizes, in the presence of a holy God, he's very unworthy to do what he feels he needs to do. And the angel comes and touches his tongue with a coal from the altar and he says you know, I'm going to commission you to do that. And the Lord, you know, says who's going to ascend? And Isaiah says well, here I am, send me.

Speaker 2 9:36

And so what a great thing of lesson is that sometimes we are called into leadership, to be leaders in a very difficult situation. And Isaiah was called to do that and he knew he can only do it under the power and strength of God. And so the question we have to ask our leaders is when you are facing a difficult situation, whatever that situation is okay where does your strength come from to do that? Where does your wisdom come from to do that? And so I would just challenge those people who are listening to examine where am I getting my strength? Where am I getting my wisdom? Where am I getting my wisdom? Where am I getting my advice? Where do I go to when the problem or the situation is just so overwhelming I don't even know where to start? And that's where Isaiah was, and his solution was you rely upon God, and God's going to direct your path.

Speaker 1 10:41

He's going to do that. Yeah, it's sort of like a rally cry for, you know, leaders and servants, you know, and in a way you know, step up and and make it happen. And you know he was. He was trying to prepare everybody for the coming Messiah isn't what they're trying to say. You know, sort of get prepared. You know it's coming, judgment's coming and here's what we need to do. So I think he stepped up in a time that was difficult. And how many times people look at you know the people that have stepped up and we've talked many times about COVID. You know people that stepped up and how we evolved through some of those things and through the turmoil of some of the stuff going on in the world. You know, think about leaders that have stepped up and done things. And it's a calling.

Speaker 2 11:33

It is a calling. So let's just think about something when a leader deals with a difficult situation okay and I shared this before we started today a show prep and I read an article not too long ago about nine things highly disciplined people do before 8 o'clock in the morning and I was just fascinated because it's like wow, so true. I wish I had learned this many years ago when I was first starting out, but I hadn't. I incorporated many of these practices just because of trial and error, and one of the the number one on the list was getting up early. Now, when we're dealing with a difficult situation.

Speaker 1 12:24

Did you say something yeah?

Speaker 2 12:28

I used to be a night person, yeah me too.

Speaker 2 12:30

I'd stay up. It's hard to go to sleep. I'd sleep in and I realized if I'm going to be effective in my job, I need to start being a morning person. That took a while. I asked God to help me be a morning person. So over time that happened, but that was like the number one thing.

Speaker 2 12:53

And in all of these nine things, my question would be if you're going through a difficult challenge and we've all been there as leaders if you haven't been there, then it's going to come. The question is, how high a priority is self-care during that particular time of your life? And sometimes those challenging things happen for a week, Sometimes they last for a month, Sometimes they happen for a year. But self-care is so important because it's like taking care of someone who's sick in your family. If the caregiver doesn't take care of themselves, then the caregiver gets sick and then they're not good to anybody. So if the leader does not practice self-care, then the organization's going to suffer.

Speaker 2 13:46

And so you know, working 20 hours a day, seven days a week, you know, if that lasts too long, then you're going to break down, You're not going to make good decisions, your mind's going to be tired. You know you might be on the edge, grumpy-wise, and so self-care is so important. So getting up early. The next thing was to exercise. Even if you go and walk for 15, 20 minutes, just do something to take care of your body. Clear your mind, Just do some type of exercise. Those were the first two things. We'll get to other things in the weeks to come, but I just think the whole thing of self-care is so important as leaders if we're going to be effective over time.

Speaker 1 14:34

Yeah, I mean you've got one body. I always tell people you've got to take care of you. We always try to put other things first, prior to you, and sometimes you know if you, if you can't get out of bed, then you're going to have a tough time touching others. So you always have to prioritize you and and think about the self-care you know and and it's exercise, it's mental, it's, it's all kinds of stuff is coincides with the taking care and the self-care. That's a that's a broad spectrum of self-care and and we're all motivated by different things when it comes to self-care too.

Speaker 2 15:08

Yeah, and especially this time of year when it's cold.

Speaker 2 15:11

it might be snowy where you are, and so it's sometimes easier when this time of year to get sick, or get a cold, or here in Texas we have the mountain cedar coming in here pretty quick and a lot of allergies, and so you've got to be at your best self health-wise, in order to be your best self as a leader and you might just be leading your family. You don't want to be down and out for weeks because you haven't taken care of yourself, and it's very easy in a stressful situation to put in. So and I've done that, I've made that mistake too many times to put in so many hours, you just literally wear out Speaking of everything going good.

Speaker 1 15:55

You were Rudolph before Christmas. Yes, I'm Rudolph.

Speaker 2 15:59

Well, I did see the doctor, yesterday I'm going to have some skin cancer removed from my nose here in about a month. Saw the doctor yesterday, it's all you know. Everything was going good, but I had to do a little chemo treatment on my nose prior to Easter. Yes, I mean prior to Christmas.

Speaker 1 16:19

And.

Speaker 2 16:19

I was very red in the nose.

Speaker 1 16:21

He was. Rudolph, good timing, I was Rudolph, I was very red, just like your sweatshirt, walked in, I'm like, hey, did you dress up for the show or what it's?

Speaker 2 16:28

almost gone, but the doctor was very pleased at the progress, and so he just wanted to be sure all of the pre-cancer skin was taken care of before they did that surgery so it doesn't spread, and I just appreciate that. So that's happening February the 17th or something like that have that removed one day and then some plastic surgery the next day.

Speaker 1 16:51

I like it.

Speaker 2 16:52

And so just got to take care of your health, got to take care of your body.

Speaker 1 16:55

You got to. That way we can get you back training again. You know full training.

Speaker 2 17:00

Yeah, got to get back in the pool. You know I just enjoy exercising and got a new bike for Christmas.

Speaker 1 17:07

I'm really excited about that I'm going bike shopping here. I'm going bike shopping here in the next week or so. Get me a new bike.

Speaker 2 17:14

Get you a new bike, I just like it. I really like exercising, swimming, biking, running, and I haven't signed up for a NUX triathlon. So I was kind of waiting on the surgery to see what's going on with that and see how long it's going to take to recover. It shouldn't take too long, but I can't. I can't get it wet, you know. So I can't swim, I can't sweat too bad, and and so we'll just kind of see how that goes, and then I'll put something on the calendar and we'll go from there. That's awesome.

Speaker 1 17:42

Yeah, I'm really excited. I'm excited. I got the kids' bikes for Christmas, so I've got to go get me a new bike now, so they're starting to get where they're running away from me you know, yeah, exactly right. I can't run that fast. No, not yet Not ever, Never yeah.

Speaker 2 17:59

Maybe. Well, let's get back to Isaiah.

Speaker 1 18:08

So one of the things that— that's what we do is we go down past it. It's either dad jokes or we stories right.

Speaker 2 18:10

So glad to hear you're on the recovery trail. I'm going to be there, and so let's just talk about Isaiah for just a few more minutes. One of the things that God challenged Isaiah to do was to keep the vision in front of the people, the vision being worshiping one true God. So I think, as leaders, whether you're going through great times, going through difficult times, whatever time you're going through right now one of the leader's jobs and we've talked about this a lot is to keep the vision in front of your people and not just having it on the board, you know, in your office or over the doorway when someone walks in, but to verbalize that, to live that out, to remind people. And if your vision statement or your mission statement is so long that people can't memorize it, it needs to be 10 words or less.

Speaker 1 18:59

It does.

Speaker 2 19:00

You know, and so they know it, they own it, they can recite it and you're walking to get some water in the water cooler. Someone everybody in the organization should be able to quote the vision and the mission and then be able to tell them what part of their job is working toward that goal. Yeah, and that should be very easily understood.

Speaker 1 19:26

Yeah, it should have clarity and the conviction behind it. You know, and we've said it many times on here and in all my seminars, if I got 50 people in my class, maybe one person, maybe two people really know their vision statement or their mission statement of your company. It's just not a thing. But I'm like how? And then, after I explain it to some of these execs, I'm like how, how? And then, after I explain it to some of these execs, I'm like, well, how?

Speaker 2 19:50

do you know?

Speaker 1 19:50

your employees are working towards what your company goals are Right and they're like, wow, that's a great point. I'm like, isn't that very important? I mean, you know, don't you want them coming to work every day and working towards things that are going to benefit and the things that you've established, that you haven't told them? You know, and it just there's a big disconnect there in the corporate world.

Speaker 2 20:13

Yes, and it's such an important step to good leadership and you don't have to cram it down people's throats, but you should be able to, if you have a staff meeting people's throats, but you should be able to, if you have a staff meeting, have someone else talk about the vision and how they are working toward that vision.

Speaker 2 20:33

And if you hear that and you think that's not exactly what I really am wanting them to do, then just don't confront them in the middle of a bunch of people, just take them to the office, have a private meeting with them and say let's talk about your work. You know, you said this. I appreciate your honesty, I appreciate what you're doing. Let's tweak your responsibilities just a little bit to more line up with our mission statement and our vision statement, and you should be able, as the leader, to be able to tell the whole organization what you're doing that helps the vision happen. This is like what we talked about last week, that we should be able to talk the talk but walk the walk, and so that everything we do should be in line with accomplishing the mission and the vision as well.

Speaker 2 21:28

So not just, we just don't want our people to do it, we want us to be able to do that.

Humility in Leadership and Sponge Candy

Speaker 1 21:33

Exactly right. Well, let's get into this, mica. Mica, we're about halfway, a little over halfway through here, and you know MICA is a—.

Speaker 2 21:45

Well, before we get to MICA.

Speaker 1 21:46

Oh, before we get to MICah, oh, before we get to Micah here.

Speaker 2 21:49

Hold on what Okay.

Speaker 1 21:52

Just a little, you know foreshadowing.

Speaker 2 21:54

Foreshadowing. Yeah, that's probably good for this dad joke. Okay, so why are archaeologists always so annoyed?

Speaker 1 22:05

Why are archaeologists always so annoyed? Yes, I do not know.

Speaker 2 22:14

Because they always have a bone to pick. All right, I'll give you that.

Speaker 1 22:20

I was trying to think of where it was when are we going with that?

Speaker 2 22:22

Where are?

Speaker 1 22:22

we going? I was trying to because I like archaeology a lot, so I was like, all right, I can get this one, but I didn't have that one, Okay.

Speaker 2 22:28

so what do you call a mouse that swears?

Speaker 1 22:32

Ooh, this could be a good one A mouse that swears I do not know A cursor. There we go. I like that one. That was actually pretty good. I don't mind that one. So I don't mind that, all right, micah.

Speaker 2 22:52

Micah.

Speaker 1 22:53

Yes, another one of the prophets. Directed at Israel and Judah at the time of moral and social corruption.

Speaker 2 23:01

Yes, which is basically that whole period of the history, is basically that whole period of the history. And so he basically we're back to the same thing that Isaiah wanted to do, in that he had a vision that people should turn back to God and he wanted to keep that. He wanted people to be accountable, he wanted the leaders to be accountable and he wanted people keep that. He wanted people to be accountable, he wanted the leaders to be accountable and he wanted people to be fair. And so one of the very quoted it's not the most quoted verse in the Old Testament, but it's way up there is Micah 6.8. And this is the quote, and this is the quote humankind, God has told you what is good and what it is. The Lord requires of you to act justly, to love faithfulness and to walk humbly with your God. Wow.

Speaker 1 24:01

Right, yeah, that's just powerful.

Speaker 2 24:03

And so if you take that and just translate it into leadership principles, let's talk about just being humble. You know, leadership is a challenge, it's a sacrifice. But if we're a leader and it goes to our head, that's going to be a problem down the road. Going to be a problem down the road. Okay, so what if we are the leader of our scout troop or we're the leader of our softball team or bowling team or whatever it may be, and we start getting the big head that we're the boss and other people have to do what we say, then that's going to be a problem down the road. And the same thing is true with an organization, whether it's for-profit, non-profit, if the leader is not humble. I'm not saying you're a doormat and people run over you.

Speaker 1 24:59

No.

Speaker 2 25:00

But if you start thinking too highly of yourself, that just leads to problems down the road.

Speaker 1 25:07

Yeah, I mean as definition of humble, you know the adjective part, having or showing a modest opinion of one's own importance or abilities. You know it's acknowledging those right, and I looked up to characteristics in pre-show of you know, acknowledging your personal limitations, valuing others and their contributions, being open to feedback, which is important right, choosing service over self-promotion. And that's some of the characteristics of being, you know, humble. Humility is. You know how are you doing it.

Speaker 1 25:46

You know, a lot of times when I'll take on a coaching client, one of the things I have a questionnaire I have them fill out and it has a lot of this stuff on there about you know, humility and stuff and a lot of my questions.

Speaker 1 25:58

I've blended that in. And then a lot of times, if it's through a company or something, I'll ask to meet with all the co-workers. I just had a situation where it was a supervisor had, you know, 10 people under it, so I met, I asked to meet with all the employees and I had them fill out a similar questionnaire based on this supervisor. And a lot of times I can have the questionnaire from the person that I'm coaching and the questionnaires from the employees and I compare them and that's where you usually see this big difference and a lot of times it's it's because of this, it's because of the arrogance, it's because of the I'm better than everybody else in the department, and a lot of times that comes up as the disconnect in business and and uh, you know. But if you ask the, the coaching client, straight up, they're like no, everything's good, my employees love me and all this stuff. But as soon as you see those two surveys side by side, that really tells the tale.

Speaker 2 26:56

Yes, and it's probably one of the least acknowledgeable things to see in ourself, because it's so easy to be prideful, it's so easy to think more of ourself than we should, but it's also destructive. And it's just like they say, you know, putting a frog in a pot of cold water and then heating it up. It just happens over time. You know, we get a little bit of responsibility and then we get more responsibility and we start thinking, oh yeah, we deserve this. And these commercials on television now and on the radio when they talk about, well, you deserve this, that just drives me crazy. It's like, really, I deserve a new couch, I deserve this, I deserve a. It's's like I don't see myself as deserving it, but sometimes we get in that as leaders, yeah, we deserve that, we deserve this promotion.

Speaker 2 27:54

We deserve this salary, we deserve these perks. We deserve that because we're just so good, and once that happens, we're setting ourself up for some real serious issues.

Speaker 1 28:07

Yeah, maybe you deserve another piece of coffee. Yeah, and I brought you some.

Speaker 2 28:14

I wouldn't say this last week, I should have said it last week. So we have a friend that's from Wisconsin. Those of you in the northern part of the country you might know what I'm talking about sponge candy, sponge candy. Yeah, it's so unique. I've talking about sponge candy, sponge candy. Yeah, it's so unique, I've never eaten anything like it.

Speaker 1 28:30

It is very unique.

Speaker 2 28:31

The inside of it looks like a sponge it just does, and then it's covered with chocolate. How can you Anything covered with chocolate?

Speaker 1 28:38

is going to be good, right?

Speaker 2 28:38

Anything covered with chocolate is good, and they have dark chocolate, which is what I brought you, and they have light chocolate.

Speaker 1 28:50

And it's just good. It's just really really good. Now the inside is real crunchy.

Hydration and Leadership Priorities

Speaker 2 28:52

It is. I sort of did it from like a Whopper yeah a Whopper, Except it's a lot bigger than a Whopper yeah, a lot bigger than a Whopper, you know.

Speaker 1 28:58

But yeah, it was very yummy. So kudos out to your friends. Yeah, sponge candy. Yeah, absolutely so, it was really good and sorry.

Speaker 2 29:08

It's all gone, it doesn't stay long it doesn't.

Speaker 1 29:11

It's sort of like my toffee right, yeah, and it's only seasonal, you can't buy it all year long. You can only buy it during the Christmas season.

Speaker 2 29:18

Yeah, so if you don't order enough, then just like hatch chili Too bad so sad. You better get them about the middle to the end of August, or maybe the middle of September. After that they're gone. Right, and it was so good, so good. I made chili rellenos over Christmas. Oh, that's so good. Yes, and let's get back to Micah.

Speaker 1 29:44

We're going down the hunger phase here, okay, so we're talking about humility. Yes.

Speaker 2 29:50

And in that humility comes caring for your people. Um, sometimes we project the fact that we're we care more about the goals than we do about the people. We care more about the bottom line profit than we care about the employees, we care more about winning than we do the members on our team, and so I think that's a priority issue. Um, and? And so the question is, what do we really focus on? What is our primary goal? Yes, we have to be. If we have shareholders and all that kind of stuff, we have to be responsible to the shareholders. But the question is, are we caring more about the goal, the vision and the bottom line profit, or do we care more about our people? And if we care more about the people, they'll know it and your profit's going to be higher.

Speaker 1 30:45

Profit's going to follow.

Speaker 2 30:46

Yeah, your shareholders are going to be happy. A lot of times that doesn't happen, and that's just, I think, a sign of bad leadership. Yeah, so Micah was saying hey, you got to care for the people. You know, you can't just care for yourself, you can't just care for your wealth and your power. You've got to care for the people in the country Right, the poor especially, but all the people and you've got to treat them fairly. That's what Micah 6.8 was all about, is, you know, you've got to walk humbly, you've got to treat people kindly, treat everybody fairly. And so I think what a great leadership lesson that is from that book. It's a small book, but it's got a powerful lesson.

Speaker 1 31:25

Yeah, very powerful book, all right. Well, I think we're wrapping up the end of the show here, you could see this he's got like a control panel of dad jokes all the way around him.

Speaker 2 31:39

I just don't have the monitor up with dad jokes yeah, I know the best 1,000 dad jokes on the planet.

Speaker 1 31:45

Now, that would be awesome. Oh man, maybe we have to put something together. We should put that in there. They wouldn't get any points. We wouldn't be able to put that together because we don't have any best dad jokes.

Speaker 2 31:54

So we're coming down to the end of the football season here, yeah, so we've got the Super Bowl coming up here in just a few weeks. That's going to be an exciting game, as it always is. But talking about professional sports, okay, now here in Dallas-Fort Worth, we are so blessed to have so many amazing professional teams. We've got a few Baseball football basketball hockey We've got some really good teams.

Speaker 2 32:18

Okay, We've got a few Baseball, football, basketball, hockey. We've got some really good teams. I wanted to try to put a professional hide-and-seek team, you know but good players are too hard to find. I knew where that one was going. But that makes it a good dad joke, right, that makes a good dad joke, huh, oh. Oh, you got one that makes a good joke.

Speaker 1 32:41

Huh, oh, oh, you got one.

Speaker 2 32:50

You know I have many of them that you know there's yeah, just don't know if they're good, they're bad. So I saw a book. You know I'm trying to read more on my Kindle than I am actually buying books, because with a Kindle you can check them out from the library and read them and then turn it back in. It's really great. But I saw a book the other day and I almost bought it, but it was a step-by-step guide on how to climb stairs.

Speaker 1 33:14

Yeah, step-by-step, huh, step-by-step guide. How did that go?

Speaker 2 33:21

it went down, but sales are up.

Speaker 1 33:26

My sales are up, yeah oh my gosh, what else you got there I I don't know if I should do anymore.

Speaker 2 33:35

I think I've kind of run my limit for the day. Maybe not.

Speaker 1 33:52

I just think in the first of the year I was reading a passage and it made me think about writing a book, because I need to write a book.

Speaker 2 33:55

You need to write a book.

Speaker 1 33:56

And I'm in the process of writing one. But I thought about Okay, that's good, you know mine's very specific because it's about what I'm going to be speaking on. And I thought about writing another book on dieting. Oh, Because it'll appeal to a wide audience. Yeah, it should.

Speaker 2 34:14

Hey, before we go now, last week I talked about some habits that highly disciplined people do before 8 o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 1 34:25

Yes.

Speaker 2 34:25

Okay, now some things. You think I can't exercise. I'm traveling. Well, that might be true. You might be able to just walk up and down the hallway of the hotel or stay in a hotel that's got an exercise room or something the hallway of the hotel, or stay in a hotel that's got an exercise room or something. But here's one thing you can do, no matter where you stay if you're on vacation, if you're on a business trip or whatever. But number three so last week I talked about two things. Number one highly disciplined people do before eight o'clock in the morning. They rise early, they get up early. That means they probably have to go to bed late. You can't just get two or three hours sleep. I used to do that and it would wear me out. They exercise.

Speaker 2 35:07

Number three is they hydrate. They drink plenty of water. They don't just drink energy drinks, you know, sports drinks, stuff like that. They actually drink water and there's a formula. You know so many glasses a day depending upon your size and all that kind of stuff. But you can do that regardless of where you are, how much you're traveling. You can take care of your hydration needs.

Speaker 2 35:36

And I listen to a lot of podcasts as I'm trying to, you know, get ready for my next triathlon. Whenever that is, and almost every single podcast, at some point they talk about the importance of hydration, because if you're hydrated, your blood's you know better and you just feel better. Now it takes a while. You can't just go from drinking nothing to drinking a gallon a day. That just doesn't work. You've got to build up to it. But you can hydrate. I'm talking about water. I'm not talking about drinking two cups, four gallons of coffee, drink water, and it takes a while to get used to that.

Speaker 2 36:16

And so that's one of the goals I have for this year is to get my hydration level up to the proper amount, which is about 96 ounces of water a day, and if I exercise it needs to be a little bit more than that. But I'm not there. I want to get there and it just takes a time, you know. So it's like, okay, I can add a cup a week, just add a little bit more every week, and eventually you know I'll get up there.

Speaker 2 36:43

So I think that was good advice and you just feel better when you're hydrated. You're not dragging down, you're not so tired, and so I just encourage people to just get. You know, look up what's right for you and there's so many things out there. But normally it's so many ounces per every pound of body weight, and for me I'm about 185 pounds, so it's 96 ounces of water. And so it's like, yeah, I'll get there. Right now I'm about 70 ounces of water a day. I just need to get up to 96. So that's one of my goals for the year and I invite you all to join me. Nice, yeah.

Speaker 1 37:31

I drink a lot of water.

Speaker 2 37:32

I actually drink, you do.

Speaker 1 37:33

I drink a lot of water. I actually drink a lot of water during the night, believe it or not, so I probably go through 32 ounces plus of water every night.

Speaker 2 37:42

Really yeah, wow.

Speaker 1 37:43

From when I go to bed I'll get up and maybe pee once and chug another glass of water and get up and get on my day.

Speaker 2 37:51

Yeah, it wakes me up in the morning and gets me up. That's really really good. It's really good for your health, of course. Yeah, I do like my coffee too, though. Yeah, coffee, that's the whole key, all right.

Speaker 1 38:01

Well, let's let the people go today, all right.

Speaker 2 38:05

Well, have a great day.

Speaker 1 38:07

Have a great week. Check us out biblicalleadershipshowcom. Send us any prayer requests you might have, or anything good dad jokes.

Speaker 2 38:17

Please send us some good dad jokes. Not, you're gonna listen to the rest of the all the stuff, right?

Speaker 1 38:21

yeah, yeah, exactly right, we got a whole lot. I've got a lot of dad jokes here, other than that, dr p, take us out. Hey, make it a great day.