The Biblical Leadership Show
Inspiration. Wisdom. Leadership from a Higher Perspective.
Welcome to The Biblical Leadership Show, your go-to resource for discovering timeless truths from Scripture that empower leaders to inspire, influence, and impact their world. Hosted by Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey, this podcast takes a deep dive into the Bible’s profound lessons on leadership, bringing fresh perspectives to timeless principles that resonate in today’s fast-paced, ever-changing world.
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- Powerful Biblical Insights: We explore the leadership styles of biblical figures like Moses, Esther, David, and Jesus, extracting practical strategies for overcoming challenges, building trust, and creating lasting impact.
- Real-World Applications: Learn how to integrate biblical leadership principles into your workplace, team, or organization while navigating the complexities of modern leadership.
- Inspiration for Growth: Whether you’re a seasoned leader or just stepping into a leadership role, our content is designed to motivate and equip you to lead with integrity, compassion, and vision.
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Leadership isn’t just about titles or power—it’s about serving others, making wise decisions, and leaving a legacy of faith and purpose. Through relatable discussions, actionable takeaways, and encouragement rooted in Scripture, The Biblical Leadership Show provides the tools and insights you need to lead boldly and faithfully in every sphere of life.
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The Biblical Leadership Show
Leadership Through Scripture, Lessons from John 5
What happens when a man who's been paralyzed for 38 years meets someone who challenges his entire way of thinking? In this special second anniversary episode of The Biblical Leadership Show, we dive into John Chapter 5 to explore how Jesus approached a man stuck in both physical paralysis and mental stagnation with a deceptively simple question: "Do you want to get well?"
This powerful story reveals one of leadership's most transformative principles - good leaders help people see possibilities they can't see for themselves. After decades in the same condition, this man's vision had become limited by his circumstances. He couldn't imagine a different future until Jesus helped him envision one. How many people in your organization might be similarly stuck, unable to see beyond their current limitations?
We also examine how Jesus consistently led with authority rather than popularity, challenging established norms when they no longer served people. When religious leaders objected to healing on the Sabbath, Jesus prioritized compassion over convention - a reminder that effective leadership sometimes requires questioning "the way things have always been done."
As we celebrate two years of biblical leadership exploration, we reflect on our journey through all 39 books of the Old Testament and now into the New Testament. Our mission remains the same: helping you extract practical leadership wisdom from ancient texts by reading scripture through a "leadership filter." Whether you're managing a team, running a business, or simply wanting to grow as a leader, these timeless principles offer guidance for today's challenges.
Join us each week as we continue unpacking leadership lessons from the Bible - with the occasional dad joke thrown in for good measure! Subscribe now and tell someone else about The Biblical Leadership Show.
uh-huh now, yeah, uh-huh, yeah, yeah, come on, come on, all righty, welcome welcome welcome, welcome, dr bozzi, it's our anniversary it is second anniversary second anniversary wow, how exciting is that being going on for two years.
Speaker 2:You'd think that'd been going on for two years now.
Speaker 1:You would think it'd been going on for two years now, that's crazy. Yeah, two years. Yeah, I got to apologize right now because we're all sugared up. Dr Posey brought us a surprise bag of cookies from Tiff's, and so we've been eating cookies in the studio. Got some sparkling water here, we're going at it, you, and so we've been eating cookies in the studio. I've got some sparkling water.
Speaker 2:Here we're going at it. You know Big celebration, but we're sugared up. So if we go a little crazy, that's it. If we go a little heavy on the dad jokes.
Speaker 1:That might be why right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but happy anniversary, brother. Happy anniversary to you. This is awesome Two years so. For those listeners who might not have caught the first couple of shows, two years ago. Why don't you just kind of update everybody on the back story of how this whole adventure got started?
Speaker 1:This was a fun one. How we got started on this. I just kept having this idea of you know, just kept in meditation and prayer and I kept having the idea that I was going to do this podcast with Dr Posey and I kept dismissing it and it kept reappearing every time that I would do it and I was like he was still a minister, he was going large church and I knew it'd be a conflict of interest. I'm like it's not possible. I mean it's not possible. I know that he can't do it right. And then there was this big series of events. You can get into it and everything changed right and it changed pretty quick because there were some things.
Speaker 2:that happened and I decided I just needed to retire and step aside. And that happened. And at my retirement party you came up and shared that vision with me and handed me your card. And you know, I knew who you were, but you know we hadn't spent a whole lot of time together before then and so I said, well, let me think about it, pray about it. And so we were going on vacation right after that, and so I think in sometime in that fall that we started talking and getting together and just kind of brainstorming what would this show look like and what would we focus on. And we spent some time just processing that, thinking about it, and then we started.
Speaker 1:we started, yeah, yeah and that's what I was saying. You know, I tell people all the time I'm like just, you know, and I'm a big intuitive person and and follow you know some of the the, the thoughts that come in your head and all that stuff, and then really investigate them and and vet them out. But yeah, I did not think it was possible. And then within a couple months I'm handing you a card and listening to your last one at our church going this is sad, but this is where I'm at. And yeah, I caught him, I'm in line. I mean, there's hundreds of people in line, line and I'm just.
Speaker 1:Here's my card. Let me tell you a thought. I whispered in his ear my thought. I said call me, think about it, this is my card, call me when you get settled. And then I just I was like bye-bye, you know, and uh, I'd been a regular, he, he, dr P, had known me. I say hi, shook his hand all the time but it, like you said, didn't hang out and all that stuff, and it all came together and I've had a great time. As I've said it many times, I enjoy this and I learn a lot.
Speaker 1:It's sort of like I have my private minister here just teaching me every week and I love that and plus we've got snacks. Plus, he brings snacks, he brings cookies. I mean, what is?
Speaker 2:better than that Snacks in the Bible.
Speaker 1:It's exactly right, so yeah, but I've had a great time. It's been good, it's been a good two years.
Speaker 2:It's hard to believe two years.
Speaker 1:It is insane to think of two years.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's crazy, and we're just beginning. We are I mean we're up to seven listeners this week.
Speaker 1:Oh we kid about it, we continue to get listeners every week they must like the dad jokes. They must like the dad jokes yeah Right.
Speaker 2:So let's just talk about kind of our focus you know other than dad jokes and talking about snacks.
Speaker 2:We started out this podcast two years ago focusing on a book that I wrote about Noah's Ark, and the book was not about did Noah's Ark happen? Is it real? I believe it was real because it was in the Bible, but the question was what are the leadership principles that we can see from that particular story in the book of Genesis? And so that's been our focus. That's why we call it the Biblical Leadership Show, because we take the Bible and we look at certain passages of the Bible and then we talk about leadership. And so I was a pastor for 45 years. Tim has been in the construction business for decades and other businesses. He's a nationally known speaker. He travels around, teaches leadership principles, and so we're coming with experience. We're not just you know people just making stuff up.
Speaker 1:We love to make stuff up. We love making stuff up.
Speaker 2:But we come with that experience under our belt and so what we've done really in the last year is we decided why don't we just go through all the books of the Bible? And so if you are listening to the podcast you can go back to probably almost a year ago and we started with the book of Genesis, going through every book of the Bible, and we finished the Old Testament 39 books. Now we're on the New Testament. We've got 27 books, but we're in the fourth book, the book of John, and last week we finished chapter four. In our planning and we like to plan things out so we know what's coming up in the next month or so of shows we thought that we could do one book per week.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And that happened in the Old Testament. There was so much that Jesus was teaching about leadership because he was a phenomenal leader and teacher that we realized you know, we're not going to rush through it, this is. We don't have to do that, it's our show, so we can take it as slow as we need to and deep dive as much as we need to, and so, like in the book of Luke, it took us four weeks. We're now on the fourth week of the book of John and we're on chapter five.
Speaker 1:And it's not just the snacks, it's just not the snacks.
Speaker 2:It's some really good principles. It is some great stuff, and so I encourage you if you haven't listened to all of it, just go back and catch from the beginning of the book of John. That'd be a couple of weeks ago and around the first of September.
Speaker 1:No beginning of the book of John. That'd be a couple of weeks ago and around the 1st of September. No, we want them to start two years ago. Yes, and just binge listen right, I hope the show has got better over the last couple of years.
Speaker 2:Yes, the jokes. I don't know if the jokes have gotten better.
Speaker 1:Maybe I need to go back and look at some of those initial ones and see how we did. But some of the principles.
Speaker 2:We repeat like the very first show was on. The word is but some of the principles we repeat, like the very first show was on the word is your word, your bond, and that is still such a powerful leadership tool. Right and so, trust, humility, not thinking more highly of yourself than you ought to, that's a very biblical leadership principle. And so we get to talk about the Bible. We talk about some leadership principles, but we also have dad jokes and we love all the parts of the show.
Speaker 1:And people ask us and they actually like the dad jokes. And then some people are like what's up with the dad jokes? I'm like that was in our pre-show and I was like if we're going to do this, we want to have fun. And for some reason we started telling dad jokes that day and we're like that's it. We're going to throw dad jokes in the show, right? And that was sort of our pre-show when we had multiple meetings trying to figure out how we wanted to set up the podcast and I hope you guys like it, I like it and I know Dr Posey does.
Speaker 1:You see his spread over there, right? It's like his mission all week is to find 500 new dad jokes that are not out there in the world, right? So?
Speaker 2:he starts writing his own. I know I've got some great dad jokes, but it makes our time enjoyable here in the studio and we hope the listeners groan as much as we do when we tell the jokes.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, some of them are groaners, some of them are good. Some of my kids are like hey, I like that dad joke, oh dad. Some of them are growners, some of them are good. Some of my kids are like hey, I like that dad joke, oh dad, there wasn't any good dad jokes today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, today we're in the nice studio here in your office, in your training center. But I was thinking in Texas. That's where we are. If you're not familiar, we're in the Dallas-Fort Worth area and it's September. We're still hot here. We had a mild summer. I only think we had less than five days of over 100, which is very, very unusual for us in Texas.
Speaker 1:It was sort of crazy.
Speaker 2:But it's still warm here, and so I was thinking whoever invented air conditioning must have been really cool.
Speaker 1:I like it yeah.
Speaker 2:So what do you call an angry bow and arrow?
Speaker 1:Angry bow and arrow.
Speaker 2:I don't know A crossbow.
Speaker 1:Oh boy, what's Forrest Gump's password to his computer? Oh, I know this one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, all I can think of is run, forrest run. It's close One Forrest run, oh one Forrest run, oh One Forrest run.
Speaker 1:Oh gosh, here's the thing that Dr B he knows all the jokes right so I mean he researches these.
Speaker 2:You gotta understand this is but my retirement.
Speaker 1:He's went to retiring. You think you know he does some, still does some preaching and some churches and fills in with some people, but I mean his life is to research dad jokes. That's it a little triathlon training a little preaching, a lot of dad joke, research, that's the way it is right. A little guitar, yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 2:So how did the hackers escape the police?
Speaker 1:Oh boy, and you can tell I don't have time People are like that's a simple one, Tim, Are they?
Speaker 2:ransomware. Are they ransomware?
Speaker 1:Are they ransomware? All right, I'll give you that one. I hadn't heard of that one.
Speaker 2:So let's just maybe talk about the Bible. What do you think about that?
Speaker 1:I guess I was looking here I was like do I have any good ones? What do you call a snowman with a six-pack?
Speaker 2:Yes, something like an abdominal snowman Abdominal snowman. Oh, there we go, I tried to stump him.
Speaker 1:Maybe that's what we'll do for our New Year's Eve show. Right Is we'll have stump Dr Posey on dad jokes. And then I'll break out all the dad jokes and see how many times we can do it.
Speaker 2:I know we've shared this one before, but what do you call a happy cowboy? I don't know? A jolly rancher?
Speaker 1:I like it One more see if you can figure it out, See if you know it.
Speaker 2:One more, see if you can figure it out.
Speaker 1:One more, see, if you know it I've heard it, I've said it before, I think why did the coffee file a police report?
Speaker 2:Because it was mugged there you go.
Speaker 1:All right, john. 4. John 5. No, john 5. Yeah, john 5.
Speaker 2:John 5. So last week, john 4, jesus talking to a woman at the well and powerful story in the Bible. It's only found in the book of John, in chapter 4. And we talked a lot about the leadership. Principle is that every person in your organization has value, in your organization has value and that if possible and I would say if you have a company of 100 employees or less it's possible within a year to spend a little bit of time with every person one-on-one.
Speaker 2:And you might, you know, have lunch in the warehouse with five people. Don't have lunch with 40 people because you don't get to. You know they might see you, but they don't really know that they're important. So that's what I think one of the principles from John chapter 4 was, and also that good leaders help people see a bigger vision, and that's what Jesus did with this woman, saw a bigger vision of faith, and because of that she became, like you said, an evangelist for him Right yeah.
Speaker 2:And so then it says the people came to see Jesus and then they believed because of what they heard, not because of what she had told them. So if you encourage people to have a vision in your organization and they share that with other people and then you spend time with them, then you get to impart that vision directly to them and then they catch on and just multiplies. So that's part of it. You don't want to just do that as a oh, I checked off the list. I spent some time with this group of people. I can check it off the list and I don't have to worry about it for you.
Speaker 2:No, you want to see hey, these people are valuable. They're the one that are really making the work done. They get the. You know they're one that are making us the money and I want to just say thank you for doing what you do and doing it well. And you might not be able to give them a raise because, for whatever reason, but if you give them your time and let them know that they are worth, you know they're valuable, that will go a long, long way.
Speaker 1:It really will.
Speaker 2:It does, so we get to chapter five.
Speaker 1:Chapter five.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we see that there was a man who was paralyzed and he'd been there a long time and the tradition was 38 years is what the story is. I know 38 years, and the tradition was that they would be around this pool and that angels would stir the water and whoever got in the water first would be healed. And this man was paralyzed and so he couldn't actually get into the water, and Jesus comes up to him in John chapter 5.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he challenges him. Right, he does challenge them. Do you want to get well?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that is such a powerful statement, One of the most powerful things that Jesus says to anybody, because sometimes we're in a position that we've been in a long time and we don't want anything to change. We don't want anything to get better, because that might be more work for us.
Speaker 1:People don't like change in general right.
Speaker 2:They're hesitant for change. And so Jesus talks to this man, obviously not in a condemning way, but in a very compassionate way Do you want to get well? And the man had been in that position for so long. It's like I don't have anybody putting me in the water. I'm not talking about that. Do you want to get well? And so there's theologically we'll go into this real quickly there was really two types of wellness, okay, that Jesus, you know, was talking about.
Speaker 2:One was a physical wellness and the other one was an emotional wellness, because, after 38 years of being in that condition, there's a high probability he didn't think anybody cared for him. There's a high probability he didn't think anybody cared for him. And Jesus was saying hey, if you want to be well, I'm the person who can do that for you. I care enough about you that I can change your life. And so he did. And the man walked. And so it's like the leadership principle is that good leaders. At least one of the principles I see in this is that good leaders help people see possibilities that they might not be able to see for themselves. And this man's obviously 38 years. He was stuck there. His vision was really shallow. He had had hope and had been crushed time after time after time. And so no wonder he couldn't see beyond the immediate circumstance. Jesus comes in and just says, hey, I want to give you something bigger. And he probably doubted him. But then Jesus proved him that he was right and and it changed the man's life.
Speaker 1:And so yeah, I was thinking from a leadership. He had to ask the hard questions. You know that I mean it goes into having accountability and responsibility for your actions. Right, do you want to get healed, do you want to get well? And you have to make that commitment to yourself first before you can move forward. You know it's how many times the leaders we see potential in somebody and or we put them in a. You know how many times have people been put in a leadership program and I know 100% that they have no desire to ever be a leader in this company, right, but somebody saw this. They put them in there and they don't have the desire. They just said, hey, you've been here the longest, you go to this leadership class and all that stuff, and that's not the way to do it. Where you have all these people that are, you're just wanting to be in it.
Speaker 1:I was in a committee, one of the first leadership classes I've took you know, 20, 30 years ago, and there was two or three of us were just passionate leadership, passionate education, and you know, they needed volunteers and we instantly raised our hand. They're like, well, let's like, let's take a vote on it. And you know, and the people ended up voting these other three people and we were like, really, I mean we. I mean they're like we don't really want to do this and I'm like, well, yeah, what did that happen? They ended up not doing it, we ended up doing it but it was six months later we had to pick up all the pieces because they didn't want to do it.
Speaker 1:They just got nominated and I'm like we were all volunteering because that was our passion and and uh. But yeah, that happens a lot of times from a leadership standpoint, yeah.
Speaker 2:And so if you have someone in your organization I've worked with people that have been in the same job for 38 years. I mean, I was a pastor for 45. So you do the same thing every day. You do it faithfully for 38 years. You have your routine, you have your schedule. Everything's kind of rote. You just kind of do it, do it, do it. And then someone comes along and says, hey, I want to show you how to maybe do this better. There could be some serious hesitation, resistance, and so the thing that is important for leadership if you're going to do that with somebody, you have to earn the right to be heard, and so you need to be sure you have a relationship with that person, not just come in and be the boss and say this kind of stuff. You've got to really establish that relationship. Just like going into the ocean you just slowly put your feet in, then your ankles, then your knees, then your waist.
Speaker 1:Making me cold thinking about it. And you?
Speaker 2:just kind of slowly move to that position. It's like a church choir director told me one time he got a job at a church and he knew the first time he went in there that the piano was on the wrong side of the stage, or the chancel as officially you call it. And he said I wanted to move the piano to the other side, but I knew if I just did it then it would cause all kinds of issues because people were used to looking at it over there. So he said I just moved it one inch a week. And he said before long it was in the middle. And then I just kind of started moving it more and more and more and he said it took a while, but eventually the piano was on the other side and no one noticed.
Speaker 2:And I'm thinking that's how good leaders do it. So if you want someone who's been doing something for 38 years, jesus came in and said, hey, do you want to be well? And he just did it. But we might not have that opportunity. So just small, baby steps, baby steps, baby steps and eventually you'll get there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I have a question about this in my research and I don't know the answer. And I don't know the answer.
Speaker 2:When he healed the man he healed on the Sabbath, and that was forbidden.
Speaker 1:right, right, no work on the Sabbath. Yeah, yeah, no work on the Sabbath. But I mean, you would think healing would be part of the Sabbath in a way. Right, wouldn't that fall into the?
Speaker 2:But that's when the religious leaders had a lot of trouble with that. There were some rules about what you could do on the Sabbath, what you couldn't do on the Sabbath.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't think it said non-healing on the Sabbath?
Speaker 2:No, but it was considered work. Was it really? It was work. That's why I was curious.
Speaker 1:I was like that just doesn't you know, when I was reading, I was work, you know.
Speaker 2:And Jesus turned that whole thing on its head and said you know how many of you, if you had a sheep or donkey and was in a pit, would go out on the Sabbath and pull it out of the pit. So why can't I pull this man out of a pit? He's been there 38 years Now. That's not what we said for that situation, that situation. But he was constantly trying to take a rule and turn it on its head to think you know, we've got to think of the person first and the rule second. And a lot of times they were thinking of the rule first and the person second. So he said you know, we've got to think of the person, what's best for the person? And Jesus was there, he took the opportunity and it didn't matter to him what day it was it mattered to the religious leaders, but not to him.
Speaker 2:He said I'm going to heal this guy because he's ready to be healed. And so I don't know how many of our listeners watch the series called the Chosen, but this particular scene is in one of the episodes in one of the seasons.
Speaker 2:I don't remember what season it is, and it is very, very powerful about how they do that. And so if you've seen the Chosen, you know what I'm talking about. If you haven't, I would say I think they finished season five now and they're getting on ready to. They're producing season six right now, which is going to be phenomenal. It's all phenomenal. I encourage you, if you haven't watched it, go back to season one and watch episode one season one and go from there, because there's a lot of character development.
Speaker 2:And if you don't know what the Chosen is about, it's really the backstory of these first four books of the Bible. So it's like, okay, you have Peter and Andrew and James and John and you know John the Baptist, but it's like there's so much that's not in the Bible. How did Peter and Andrew and James and John, what did they do before they met Jesus? You know Mary Magdalene, what did she do before she met Jesus? And so the writers of the Chosen just brilliant imagination. And the cinematography is incredible. The actors and actresses are amazing and they just tell the story of what they believe could have happened, of these people and their everyday lives before and after they met Jesus. And it's just, it's not the only thing out there, but it is really really worth your time. It's really really good.
Speaker 1:So, anyway, that's exciting, yeah, very exciting. One more thing on this, and we're finishing up the chapter, chapter five, here. Yeah, chapter five. One of the other leadership things I pulled out of this was lead with authority, not popularity, and I think this summarized a lot on Jesus and his journey, didn't it?
Speaker 2:Yes, it did, and so he was. Because when he taught, it was common to read in the Bible that this person teaches with authority, not as one of our scribes or Pharisees. And then they think where did he get all this teaching? Well, he was God. I mean, he just knew it. He was wise. And so one last thing I want to throw in that good leaders and we're talking about this man healing, but I think it's a great principle Good leaders help people see that their current situation does not have to be their final situation.
Speaker 2:That's great, yeah, and so that's what Jesus was seeing. This man, he'd been there 38 years. Hey, you don't have to stay like this, you know, and if you come in, you're a new leader to. Let's just say, you lead a softball team. You lost every game last year. Hey, we're not going to do that, we're going to work hard. You know year? Hey, we're not going to do that, we're going to work hard. We might lose some sum, but what happened last year is not going to define us. And so good leaders help people see a bigger vision, bigger possibilities, and so that was good. Chapter five Chapter five.
Speaker 1:There you go, yeah, yeah. Well, that's awesome. I guess we're just going to try to do one, one a week, right?
Speaker 2:So probably just one chapter a week and the book of John.
Speaker 1:So there's so much to really unwrap on some of these, these chapters and these books and stuff, and it's just these chapters. I'm just like, yeah, okay, it's fascinating. I mean this, this, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:It's fascinating, it is. This is such amazing. It's amazing and we are literally just scratching the surface. Oh yeah, I mean we're just scratching the surface.
Speaker 1:I mean we're literally yeah, we could do a deep dive on, we would be back a couple books in right now. If we were doing a deep dive on all this, we'd be still in the book of Genesis if we were doing this, but we're enjoying it and we appreciate our audience.
Speaker 2:And, speaking of that, before we finish out the show, we got about 40 minutes of dad jokes because it is our second anniversary right, we got to throw in some dad jokes, so I just want to confess to our audience that I used to be addicted to soap.
Speaker 1:Nice.
Speaker 2:Yeah but I'm clean now, okay, what has five toes, but isn't your foot, oh boy uh, five toes, but isn't your foot? But isn't your foot?
Speaker 1:oh, my foot, yeah I was forming the words. It's sort of like why can't your hand be 12 inches long?
Speaker 2:Because then it'd be a foot, then it'd be a foot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so speaking of that, I, used to.
Speaker 2:you know, I played guitar for a long time. I play at guitar and I still do, but I used to play piano by ear, but now I just use my hands.
Speaker 1:but now, I just use my hands. Why are pigs?
Speaker 2:bad at sports Because they hog the plate, hog the ball. Oh, they hog the ball.
Speaker 1:Almost had it.
Speaker 2:Okay. So Johnny Cash. What a great musician he was. Oh my goodness, he enjoyed playing in prisons.
Speaker 1:You know why why.
Speaker 2:Because he loved a captive audience. I like that.
Speaker 1:I like Johnny Cash. I think he did great there. All right, my last one. I'll let you wrap up with a couple. What do you call an? Alligator in a vest yes, don't know, an investigator, investigator okay, what do you call a skilled bird? Skilled bird uh don't know.
Speaker 2:talented, talented, talented.
Speaker 1:One more. It closes out.
Speaker 2:One more, one more.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's like, why not 12? How do you talk to a giant?
Speaker 2:You look up.
Speaker 1:You use big words? Oh, you do.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, that's probably good, you know. Okay, we've said this before, but it's worth repeating. It's probably not, but you know why you shouldn't write with a dull pencil.
Speaker 1:I've heard this one yeah because it's pointless. Pointless. Yeah, my kids told me that, so was that joke it was. All right, guys, I appreciate you. Thank you for hanging out with us. I don't know how long you've been hanging out. I know we've had a lot of people hanging out from the very beginning that have caught up and downloaded from the very beginning so two years. Thank you, Dr P, for bringing in treats.
Speaker 1:Oh gosh, yes, that's great for sugaring us up and getting us going today, but other than that, keep hanging out with us. We plan on doing a lot more stuff and by our third year we'll try to get through John.
Speaker 2:Yeah but you know the thing about it is there iseverybody who reads the Bible. Okay, and I'm just trying to be serious for a few minutes.
Speaker 2:Everybody that reads the Bible already has a built-in filter. Yeah, okay. Now, in my career as a pastor, one of the number one questions I was asked for almost 45 years and I try to address this every week when I preach this is the question how does the Bible apply to my life today? Okay, and so I tried to address that. Whether I was teaching a Bible study, whether I was preaching, whatever, I think that's what this show is trying to do. It was saying, okay, if you're a leader and you want to read the Bible, I encourage you to put on your leadership filter and say, okay, not just read the Bible, to read and say I checked it off, I read the Bible. What is this teaching me about how to be a better leader? And if you go into that and you pray about that before you even open your Bible, lord, give me the heart and eyes to see a leadership principle that I can apply your truth to my life today. You'd be amazed that before long you're going to see stuff that you have never seen before. And I would say, when you read the Bible, just read maybe one chapter. Like for me, I read one chapter in the Old Testament, one chapter in the New Testament every morning. I keep a logbook of doing that, but I don't just read it to read it, I read and go. Even though I've read it many times, I'm thinking what can I learn from that today? Because I'm in a different place today than I was the last time I read that same chapter today, than I was the last time I read that same chapter. And it's like, okay, what can I learn from this that I can still apply to my life. And if we go into reading the Bible with that filter on, we will all be amazed at what we can learn. And it could be something really, really small, but it could be very, very powerful if you continue to do that.
Speaker 2:And good leaders, one of the principles or one of the characteristics is they're consistent. They're consistent in their habits, they're consistent in their compassion for the people people and so if you just take one new habit that you implement like we talked about, you know, helping people see a bigger vision you just take that one and say, okay, how can I help my sales people see a bigger vision? It might not be that they make more money, but maybe they see a bigger vision of their role, of helping their customers. Or how can I help my accounting people or my you know, my ordering people or whatever my warehouse manager? How can I help my accounting people or my ordering people or whatever my warehouse manager, how can I help them see a bigger vision? If that is your goal and then you really pray for that, I believe God's going to give you the wisdom and insight on how to do that.
Speaker 2:So that's what our show, I believe, is part of all about. Yes, we do the dad jokes and yes, today we had snacks, but it's really about helping people to implement truths from the Scripture into their daily lives, and we enjoy it. We really enjoy it. We're glad to be here. Thank you so much for you spending time your precious time with us. Please tell someone else about the Biblical Leadership Show and we look forward to seeing you next week For sure. All right.
Speaker 1:All right, dr Brady, take us out with your famous stuff. Make it a great day. Thank you, guys. Look forward to seeing you next week. Bye-bye, bye-bye, bye.
