Biblical Leadership Lessons From Philemon

Someone on your team blows it. Maybe it’s careless, maybe it’s repeated, maybe it crosses a line and damages trust. The real question is what happens next, because your response becomes a leadership moment your whole organization remembers.

We dig into the New Testament book of Philemon, a short letter with big implications for Christian leadership, workplace leadership, and conflict resolution. Onesimus wrongs Philemon and runs, then meets Paul and becomes a Christ follower. Paul sends him back with a daring appeal: welcome him as family, and if there’s a debt, “charge it to my account.” From that one story, we unpack what accountability and forgiveness look like when you are a CEO, manager, pastor, or parent trying to lead with integrity and compassion.

Along the way, we talk through practical tools: how to gauge the severity of a problem, how to handle someone who admits the mistake versus someone who denies it, and why documenting patterns can protect both the leader and the employee. We also break down a simple communication framework for hard conversations, affirmation, challenge, affirmation, plus why toxic attitudes can hijack a team if you do not set boundaries early. The deeper takeaway is this: great leaders do not excuse wrong, but they also do not freeze people forever in their past.

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Transcript

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Alrighty, welcome, welcome. Welcome, welcome, Tim.

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How you doing today?

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How we doing?

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I'm doing fantastic.

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Spectacular.

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Spectacular, yes. It's been a good day, good weekend, ready to go again.

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Yes. That's awesome.

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Yes. How about you?

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Uh, you know, pretty good. Just been staying busy, enjoying, you know, the rain and the non-rain and getting out in flower beds and working in the door. We'll see how it goes.

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You know, this world keeps getting a scope or a short scope.

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That could be a summer project.

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So why don't you introduce the show and us to our new listeners?

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Oh, yeah. The Biblical Leadership Show. My name is Tim Lansford, and with me is the famous Dr. Posey. So, you know, he's world-renowned, world-known.

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Don't make stuff up. We can do that later.

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I'm sure you went on a mission trip. Somebody knows you somewhere. So, right. They're trying to see the world. I talked overseas world, right? You know, so uh yeah, it's one of those things. Uh welcome to our show, biblical leadership show.com, where we we talk a little bit about the Bible and uh biblical and we talk a little bit about the leadership, and then we throw some dad jokes in in the midst of it. Not necessarily that order. Not necessarily in that order, just depends what we feel that day, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:50

Yeah. So thank you for joining us. If this is your first time, we really appreciate it. And if you didn't know, we um have been going through each book of the Bible. We started in August of 2024. Our show was about a year old at that point, and up today, we are on the New Testament book of Philemon, which is Paul's shortest. Short, short 335 Greek words, 25 verses in the yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:18

And thank you for joining us today. And yeah, we're done. Pretty much with that joke time. Oh, it's that joke time. Um very that's crazy. 335 words.

Dad Jokes And Donut Hole Memories

SPEAKER_02 2:28

335 Greek words and 25 words in English. Yes, um, but some great leadership principles about compassion uh and forgiveness. And so, and here's the it will just kind of give a sneak peek of what's coming up in the next uh maybe 45 minutes. I know is is um what do you do when one of your team or one of your employees makes a mistake? That is a great how do you handle that? And the second part is, and uh this should really have been the first part, is as a Christian, how does your faith enter into your life on a daily basis, especially if you are the CEO, the leader, the manager? How does it influence your decisions and your relationships with other people? But we'll get into that in just a minute because it's a very good topic. But we got to throw in some dad jokes. So, you know, to the guy who vented the zero, thanks for nothing.

SPEAKER_04 3:28

Thanks for nothing. Oh my these these dad jokes here.

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Okay, so why do chicken coops only have two doors? Think about it. Why do chicken coops only have two doors? Because if they had four doors, they would be called chicken sedans. Oh my god, the smoke, oh my goodness.

SPEAKER_01 4:01

Okay, are you ready? Okay, why did the bullet lose his job?

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Oh wasn't uh because he got fired. There you go. I should have known that one.

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You should have known that one. Yes. Okay.

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Uh did you hear about the donut maker retiring?

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Oh no. The donut maker's retiring? Yes. No, I hadn't heard. So here's the thing. When I was in high school back many years ago, um, I played uh I went to Manzano High School in Abercreck, New Mexico, played tennis at junior high high school, one year of college at Baylor, but I wasn't good enough to make the team, didn't get a scholarship, so I went to work. But anyway, in high school, after practice, right across the street from the tennis courts was a donut shop that stayed open like pretty much all day. A lot of donut shops. And they closed out like noon. Yeah. This one stayed open. And so we would go, and they at that time, this was back in the 70s, obviously, they had no idea what to do with the donut holes. So they would make them and we'd walk in and they would give us a free dozen donut holes in the sack. It was like the best part of practice, you know.

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That's awesome.

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Do some practice. After practice, we would always run two miles, go across the street, get some donut holes, come back. Parents would pick us up from practice if we weren't driving. That's it was awesome. Yes, it was. So I like the joke. Yeah.

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I wonder if uh we have to figure out where they started first selling. I don't know.

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Someone brilliant decided, let's just sell donut holes. Don't we? It's dough.

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Yeah.

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I don't know why they didn't take the dough and and just reuse it. I don't know. But they figured, hey, we can make money selling donut holes. Yeah. There was one uh donut shop here on um Jacksborough Highway that I visited frequently years ago. And if you bought a donut, they would give you free donut holes. Yeah. It's like, oh, I like this place a lot. Too much. Here we go. Coffee was just voted the best drink of the nation.

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Yeah.

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It really was an unfair vote because they were absentee balance.

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Which one do I want to give you on that one? Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.

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All right, one more, we'll get back.

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You're you're gonna you're gonna let me.

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Why do hamburgers make poor witnesses?

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Hamburgers make poor witnesses.

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Yeah. I don't know. They won't talk no matter how you grill them.

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That's a good one. Oh. Okay. Did you hear about the two cannonballs that just got married? No. They're already expecting BBs.

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Oh boy.

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Okay, let's get on with the show.

Philemon And Onesimus In Brief

SPEAKER_03 7:06

Yeah, there you go. All right. That segment of dad jokes is probably about as long as we're gonna talk about.

SPEAKER_02 7:13

So here's the thing. Fon Leman was one of the church leaders at Colossae. He had a slave back then, unfortunately. There were slaves, but that's how it was in that society back then. Uh-huh. And he had a slave named Anesimus. And Anesimus had done something, stole something, took something that belonged to Philemon.

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But it didn't really ever stay. Say it just references.

Leading After Someone Messes Up

SPEAKER_02 7:40

No, it just kind of references it. So we don't really know what happened, but evidently he did something and he knew it wasn't right. Okay. So he flees. Um and eventually he finds Paul. Okay. Um Paul was in prison, but he found him. He goes to him through conversation relationships. And that's a whole story in itself, is that you can really influence people by building a relationship first. You know, so there was Paul. Here is this slave named Onesimus. It's it's uh can assumed in between the lines of this letter that he was not a Christian believer. He wasn't a Christ follower at that particular point. Okay. But through the relationship he had with Paul, we don't know how long that was, but through that relationship and through conversation, Onesimus became a Christian, okay, Christ follower. And um, and so Paul was riding to Philemon to take Onesimus back, not just as a slave, but as a brother in Christ. And he was basically saying, Hey, whatever he took from you, charge it to my account. So let's just talk a little bit about it. And I'm sure you've dealt with this a lot. You speak all over the country on leadership principles. And every leader who's listening to us today, I would say, even if you're leading your family, okay, you're a single parent, you have two kids, what do you do when they make a mistake? What do you do if you're an employee, uh, you're the boss, and you have five employees and one of them makes a mistake? Um, what do you do if you have 500 employees and one of them makes a mistake? Um, and so this to me is a very good example of how to live your faith in your life on a daily basis. And that's the goal, I believe, of what part of the Bible is all about. It's not just going to church on Sunday, you know, checking the box, and then living your life whatever you want. Uh, the challenge is to be holy, to be more Christ-like on a daily basis, uh, with your words, with your actions, your thoughts, your priorities, you know, your motives, everything. And so how much of your faith is influencing your life, um, instead of how much of the world is influencing your life. And so Paul was appealing to Philemon to take him back as a brother in Christ. And he said, if it's anything that he owes you, charge it to my account. So let's just talk a little bit, or maybe you can share from your experience and dealing with leadership, you know, talks around the country. Um how do you handle a person who has made a mistake? They know they made a mistake, or maybe you have to bring them into your office and talk to them about the mistake, you know. Um, but how do you how do you handle that? I mean, obviously you there's not a blank answer for everything.

SPEAKER_03 10:41

No, everybody's gonna handle it differently based on their personality where I'm gonna be a straightforward, call it out, right? You know, and and work through it and come up with a plan to to move past it and then truly let it go. But not everybody can do that, right? There's some people out there that's just gonna sort of sweep it under the rug and and pretend it's not there because they're not that it's not that they're not a strong leader, that just they don't like confrontation and that isn't their their strong suit, right?

Mistake Versus Sin And Severity

Documenting Issues And Real Consequences

SPEAKER_02 11:06

Yeah, some leaders just don't like the they just don't like confrontation. I don't like leading. Yeah. You know, they're the boss, but they don't like leadership, they don't like hard decisions, they don't like confrontation. And that's part of a leader's job is to make hard decisions. Uh I just remember, let's talk about, you know, you have employees that make mistakes. Okay. Um well a mistake, let's just uh let's just stop for a second and do a rabbit trail for a second. There's a difference between a mistake and a sin, okay? Because, you know, if I'm if I'm going to the grocery store and I forget to buy something that's on the list, then that's a m I just made a mistake. I overlooked it. Okay. A sin is something that you do that is uh damaging your relationship with God, you know. So so it's like it's or something that's not godly, it doesn't honor Christ when you're doing it. Um, you know, forgetting something at the grocery store like not buying milk and it's on the list, that's that's just a mistake. And so's uh so the question would be okay, how serious is this issue? So if you call in people like you both both of us have had to do and talk to somebody, um the question is what's the what's the severity of the issue? Well, this obviously with with uh Onesimus was pretty severe. I mean, he stole something, he took something that didn't belong to him, he knew it, he ran away, um, he knew it was wrong, and and Paul was trying to build uh count on the relationship that he had with Philemon to um ask Philemon to forgive him, take him back as a brother. Um now sometimes that works. You can talk to an employee, you can talk to somebody, they've made a mistake. Um the question is will they acknowledge it or they deny it? Okay. If they acknowledge it, it's a lot easier to deal with. Okay, it just is. Um that's one reason I this was hard for me to learn. It was really hard for me to learn, but I've made too many mistakes not doing it that I finally had to realize I have to document everything. Yeah, so sometimes you have a person that makes a mistake, you document it, you talk to them about it. They make another mistake, something similar, you talk to them about it. I think by the second or third time you need to say, okay, if this happens again, you might need to be looking for another job. Okay. Some people, they make a mistake. Like I had this employee once, I think I shared this a couple weeks ago. Had an employee once, and this person was in charge of our communications, a website, newsletter, all that kind of stuff. And um, and they just wanted to do their own thing, even though I'd call them in the office and say, no, I want it done this way for this. This is the reason I want to do it this way. And uh, okay, they agreed to that in the office, but going back to their desk, they would just do keep doing it well the way they wanted to. And, you know, after the second and third time, I said, no, we can't we can't do that. Yeah, I mean, I've given you specific instructions to do it this way for this is the reason. And they just wanted to do it their own way, so I just had to let them go. And so so there's some times that you can be um understanding and give correction, but other times there's got to be a time when you say, Hey, no, that no there are consequences to behavior, and and so I think what Paul was appealing to Faleman for is what consequence are are do you believe is right for this particular infraction that was, you know, against you. Whatever it was, whatever it was, let's think about what the consequences that you think are right. And Paul was saying, no, forgiveness is the right answer. Um and so that's just a powerful, that's just a powerful leadership lesson.

Praise Challenge Praise Feedback Pattern

SPEAKER_03 15:01

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and and one of the things he gets into this on the that he talks about that um that he was a he he was he was a strong personality, and a lot of people have been refreshed and uh uh raised up. And and uh I think that's a says a lot coming from Paul, right? You know, uh to give you kudos and and and have that personal touch. I mean, because Paul sort of dedicated his life to this, and if he feels you're making a difference in the world, that that goes a long way, I think.

Joy Suckers And Setting Boundaries

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So yes, he I think that's such a good um leadership principle. And I don't remember what it's called, it's like the sandwich principle or something like that. You you know, you give him something positive, positive, negative, positive, yes. And so Paul is such a master at this. He he's and now he's in a letter. He's not talking to him on his iPhone, you know, he's not talking to him on the phone or email, he's talking to him in a letter. But he starts out with affirming him, encouraging him, complimenting him. And so many times when someone comes into the office and you have to deal with them one-on-one, we forget that rule. You know, we just go right to the problem and sending, you know what? I really appreciate you that you've done this and this and this. I really, but let's talk about this right here. Okay. Um, and so Paul is just a master at that. He's complimenting the guy, he knows he's done, he's influential in the church, he's got a great reputation, a strong leader, all that kind of stuff. And he he plays on that first, not to play it, but that's just the way Paul does. And then he comes in and talks about the issue with Onesimus. Um, and then he finishes letter in a positive, you know, it's like you can do whatever. So it's it was a really, really good reminder to me of the the principle that I it took me a while to learn that simple principle, you know, of complimenting, challenging, complimenting. Yeah. But it's so but it's so important.

SPEAKER_03 17:15

Yeah, and and I think that's you know, one of the things that he was trying to say is he's the the type that strengthens, and we talked about this for a show, or uh, you know, we we've been around people that you know deplete your energy or or they strengthen you and and they build you up. And there's some very um, you know, uh uh different people in the world and how they approach some of the the different uh aspects of raising up uh the leaders or keeping the leaders down so they can shine themselves.

SPEAKER_02 17:47

Yes, we did talk about that before the show, and I call them joy suckers. That's not original with me, but you know, you can have someone come into the room into a staff meeting, you know, and within their body language, their tone of voice, they're uh like Eeyore on, you know, oh bother. Um, they just suck the joy out of the room, and it's almost like they're manipulating the whole room to make them down as they are down. And and no matter what you say, no matter what you do, very rarely do they ever say anything positive. Um, and they just they just can hijack a meeting, they can hijack a corporation, and um that's those some of those people are just difficult to deal with. And the sooner we deal with that, um, the better. I just remember at one church, uh, my very first Sunday, there was a confrontation that I had to deal with, uh, an issue that I had to deal with on my very first Sunday. And and that next day on Monday, I sat down with some people and I just told them, I said, this is what's gonna happen, because we can't have any more of that kind of behavior um in the church. And um and so I I just like I was brand new. I mean, I was there less than a week, and it's like I I didn't know, but it's like if I hadn't set down the law, you know, not the law, but if I hadn't set down some boundaries, yeah, that thing, I don't know how long it was happening before then, but it's like, no, this is not appropriate. And and so sometimes leaders have to make tough decisions about behavior, attitude, tone of voice, dress code, whatever it is. Um, and some leaders are just not willing to do that, and so they're just perpetuating the problem, and it literally infects your entire organization. Um and the sooner you deal with that, and Paul is talking about it, dealing with it in a mature, kind, encouraging way. Don't go and start slamming the person, you know, don't start degrading them. Right. Um, start out positive, deal with the issue, and end up positive. And I just think that's a good leadership lesson for all of us to remember. Yeah.

Measuring Growth In Leadership Maturity

SPEAKER_03 20:09

I agree. And you know, he he talks in here about um, you know, uh how you know, mature leadership. I think that was mentioned a couple times, you know, that uh he he felt that um uh he devolved in maturity in his leadership and and Paul Paul sort of had knowledge of that. So in other words, he I don't know what I'm trying to say there, but you know what I'm saying? Paul had that that ultimate knowledge. He's been doing this for years and years and years, and and does do do we have an age correlation of these two? Not that I know I was just sort of curious. And basically, when I was reading some of the things in in the the the the first couple verses there, I think it was probably midway, he he talks about you know him being mature in his leadership. And I think that from Paul, who's who's uh uh impactful person across all the biblical, you know, and all this stuff, to to uh give him sort of a pat on the back. I know he had the the the process of you know trying to uh forgive and and um you know we're gonna find out more about how that worked out. But I think that's uh one of the things that most everybody should look at their leadership. And I I was just going through this on LinkedIn basically, is is looking to see where you're at on your journey, you know, and and are are you just starting out or there's there's some people that are well ahead of time. And we mentioned that sort of last show and the youth and and the people that matured uh early in some of their leadership journeys and and have that knowledge and be able to deal with people and and be able to put right uh right everybody in the right place when you're dealing with the consequences and holding people accountable. And I think that. That's such a strong thing to look and everybody do that that little self-look inside themselves just to see where they where they're at on the scale. It's one of those things I ask in class. Well, on a scale from one to ten, where do you think you fit in on your leadership journey? How how good of a leader do you think you are? You know, because I know that I've increased many times over the years, but I still have ways to go as well.

SPEAKER_02 22:22

So I think we all have ways to go. And I think just the structure of this letter, these 25 verses, okay. Think of that as a conversation that Paul would have had with this person, Philemon. So in all of the 25 verses, talking about the issue with Onesimus is just a short part of the entire 25 verses. Yeah. He's talking about the character, the strength, the leadership, the relationship he has with Philemon first, and then he deals with the issue. So I think one of the things about maturing in leadership is how do you what happens when you confront a problem? Okay, and then you're talking to another person. Um, I think at the beginning of my ministry, you know, as a pastor, I had no concept of the sandwich principle. And I would just go in and deal with the problem. I wouldn't focus on the relationship, I wouldn't focus on the positive, I would just deal with the problem and hope that it was solve it. No, that was not a good thing. I had to learn from some bad choices.

SPEAKER_04 23:33

Right.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

That, and over time, I think you can just by listening to someone's conversation on how they deal with a problem, can tell you the maturity of their leadership. Uh so the more I think mature you are in your leadership, you're not going to butter them up. It's not Pollyanish, but you spend a lot of time uh on the relationship part, okay, and and you know, talking about them strengths and all this kind of stuff. You deal with the issue, but it doesn't have to be the majority of the conversation. And I think Paul, just to outline in the book, gives a perfect example of how mature he was dealing with this delicate issue. And and I think it's an example for all of us.

SPEAKER_03 24:16

Yeah. I always going back to the sandwich theory, and and I always tell people I'm not a sandwich theory guy, but I'm more of an open face. Because I'll lead straight into the problem. But I'll try to spin it to a positive at the end, right? But I'm like you, I go straight in, right? I'm not I'm not gonna shy away, you know, and and so I always said, Oh, it's an open face, right?

Forgiveness Without Freezing The Past

SPEAKER_02 24:35

It's an open face, but here's the thing um about okay, so Paul deals with the friendship and all this kind of stuff with uh Philemon, and then he deals with the problem with Anesimus that you know. But here's the thing that I think is such a great uh insight, it's not written, but it's in between the lines. Great leaders do not excuse sin, but they also do not freeze people forever in their past. And and one of the things that I think is so amazing about the Christian faith is that we are forgiven and that we are free from the bondage of our past mistakes. And and that took me a while to incorporate that into my life, you know, regrets, mistakes, bad decisions, all that kind of stuff. You can always be focusing on that. And and it's not that we will forget some of that those things, but our past doesn't have to define our future, right? And that's what Paul is saying here. Uh Philemon, don't let the past mistakes of Onesimus define the future that you have or going to have with him. And as a CEO, as a leader, whatever, the question would be how much do the past mistakes or the current mistakes of your family, your softball team, your bowling league, your swim club, your tennis team, whatever it is, how much are the past mistakes influencing the future decisions about what's gonna happen now and into the future? Um and and uh sometimes it's that's a hard lesson to really incorporate into your daily life. Sometimes you just need to let people go, okay? Yeah. The mistakes they make or the uh their habits or the work or the attitude, where you just gotta let them go. But other people you can say, no, they still have a lot of potential. Let's see if they can learn from this. If we can both learn from this and make the company or the family or whatever better. And um yesterday in church, oh my gosh, heard this amazing testimony from this girl that's like 18. And um she was um, let's just say she had some serious trauma in her life. Um, got addicted to some um unhealthy things, uh, drugs and stuff. Um, went through a program called Adult and Teen Challenge, which is just a phenomenal thing. So if there's anybody in your family out there that's struggling with uh a chemical dependency, you know, those kind of things, uh, I'd reach out to Adult and Teen Challenge. It's a year-long program. You gotta stay on the campus for a year. There's men's campuses and women's campuses all over the state of Texas. Really, there's some nationally, but but I'm familiar with the ones in Texas. This woman just finished a year-long program, phenomenal testimony of what God had done in her life. That's awesome. And it's because someone is willing to give her a second chance. And um, wow, she was just incredible. And I'm thinking that's what this whole letter of Philemon is about. How much are you willing to give Onesimus a second chance? Right. And um he says, hey, everybody's gonna be better off if you do.

SPEAKER_03 27:57

Yeah. I like it. Well, I think I think we we we knocked out 30 minutes of talking about the shortest one. It's not the shortest, right?

SPEAKER_02 28:09

It's not third John is the shortest, but this is close, you know.

SPEAKER_03 28:12

Yeah, it's right there.

SPEAKER_02 28:13

Yeah, it's it's right, it's really really close.

Closing Dad Jokes And Wrap Up

SPEAKER_03 28:16

So um I mean, we have like three and a half minutes or five minutes. Do you have any dad jokes by chance or anything?

SPEAKER_00 28:24

So dad jokes except maybe 700. So if you didn't hear, if you didn't join us last week, three thousand.

SPEAKER_02 28:31

I have um about three hundred and twenty jokes on my phone. Just on the phone. Just on my phone. And then I have a whole calendar here of about three hundred, it's one dad joke every day. So I didn't really start using this until a couple of weeks ago at the show. And so I've got about 330 dad jokes, so a little over 650 dad jokes uh at my just right there, right in my fingertips. So, did you hear about the guy who invented lifesavers? No, they say he made a mint.

SPEAKER_03 29:10

I had to think about that one. That was good, that was good. Uh, what do you call a priest that becomes a lawyer?

SPEAKER_02 29:18

Oh, a father-in-law. Father-in-law, yes. Okay, so why did the cat run away from the tree?

SPEAKER_03 29:30

Um don't know.

SPEAKER_02 29:33

Because of its bark.

SPEAKER_03 29:36

I thought I'd heard that one before. I was like, I know this one.

SPEAKER_01 29:39

Oh.

SPEAKER_03 29:41

Why do firefighters wear red suspenders?

SPEAKER_02 29:46

Tell me that again.

SPEAKER_03 29:47

Why do firefighters wear red suspenders? To keep their pants up. There you go. It's tough to get through on uh, you know, posey some of these.

SPEAKER_02 29:57

Yeah. Okay. Have you heard about the new band called 1023MB?

SPEAKER_04 30:05

1023MB? No, I have not.

SPEAKER_02 30:08

Well, they're good, but they haven't got a gig yet.

SPEAKER_04 30:13

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy.

SPEAKER_02 30:17

Okay. I think I've said this one before, but it's been a while. Okay, so let's just refresh some, pull some oldies out. What's the difference between a guitar and a fish?

SPEAKER_04 30:28

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 30:29

Well, you can tune a guitar, but you can't tune a fish.

SPEAKER_04 30:35

I was like, these are some old schools.

SPEAKER_03 30:37

This is like week one and week two of our some of our things, right?

SPEAKER_02 30:42

Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 30:46

What do you call a man with a car on his head?

SPEAKER_02 30:50

What do you call a man with a car on his head?

SPEAKER_03 30:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:53

I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 30:54

Jack.

SPEAKER_02 30:58

Oh. Oh my goodness. Okay, I think we're about done.

SPEAKER_03 31:02

What has a horn and gives milk?

SPEAKER_02 31:04

A milk truck.

SPEAKER_03 31:05

Mm-hmm. Alrighty guys. Check this out. Wait, I got one more. We got one more. Yeah, we got one more. All right.

SPEAKER_02 31:14

When is a door not a door?

SPEAKER_03 31:17

I know this one.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

Yeah, I bet you do. When it's a jar.

SPEAKER_03 31:21

When it's a jar. I was gonna say when it's a window.

SPEAKER_02 31:28

Okay, one last one. What washes up on tiny beaches?

unknown 31:35

Uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 31:36

Microwaves.

SPEAKER_01 31:40

Okay, we'll stop there. I like that one.

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