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James 3 And The Leadership Cost Of Careless Speech

Tim Lansford and Dr. Dean Posey Season 5 Episode 129

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One sentence can steer an entire organization, or set it on fire. We take James chapter 3 and bring it straight into the real world of meetings, conflict, feedback, and workplace culture where tone and timing often matter as much as content.

We talk through James’s blunt leadership warning about the tongue: it’s small, but it directs like a ship’s rudder and destroys like a spark in a dry forest. From leadership coaching experience, we unpack how a careless comment can undo months of trust, why gossip moves fast, and why discipline delivered in the wrong way can stick to a leader’s reputation for years. One vivid image changes how you think about speech: words are like feathers from a ripped-open pillow you can’t put them all back, and you can’t predict where they land.

From there we widen the lens to James 4 and 5 and explore humility, accountability, conflict beneath the surface, and decision-making clarity. We challenge ourselves to ask teams a better question: “What did you hear me say?” We also emphasize patience as a maturity skill, because not every result can be forced and not every person develops on your timeline.

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Birthday Banter And A Wonderful Life

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Oh now, yeah.

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All righty, welcome. Welcome, well. It's already funny. Wow, must be good. It is sort of good.

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Your show prep must be really good over there.

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It is. We're talking about James. James chapter three.

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Yes and talking, right? Wisdom. Hey, welcome to the Biblical Leadership Show. I'm Dr. Dean Posey. This with me is Tim Lansford. And thank you for joining us. We are in episode 129.

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129 on the day before your birthday. Yes. Happy birthday, Tim. It's going to be awesome. My 23rd birthday. I'm so excited. All right. Maybe, maybe some line a little bit. So uh but yeah, excited. Birthday tomorrow. Big birthday tomorrow. Great. It's a good day. Good day. I enjoyed that one. So yeah. So I'm excited.

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So we're here celebrating your birthday. And uh, you know, uh, it's it's just it, you know, I think everyday vertical is a good day.

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Yeah, 100%. So yeah. 100%.

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So we're celebrating today, even though your birthday's tomorrow, and it's always a joy to be with you in the studio.

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Ice cream and you know, all kinds of good fun stuff, you know.

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So that's that's gonna be good. I love it. I bet you do. I bet you do.

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I love birthdays. Birthdays are always a good time.

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So yes, they are. In fact, about 10 days ago, we had my mother-in-law's 95th birthday party. So amazing. It was fantastic.

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So amazing.

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Oh my gosh.

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So amazing.

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We did. It was just a great day and had a great party there where she lives, and and we had uh cupcakes and uh fruit plate and uh vegetable plate, and just great, just people showed up. It was just a great time. Our our daughter and her boyfriend put together a slideshow of my mother-in-law's life that I don't even know how many slides it were, but it went for like 21 minutes. Wow. And it was started out when she was like one all the way up to current time, and each slide was like five seconds, you know, long, and it was just phenomenal. I mean, it was just phenomenal. And uh the first time my wife and I watched it, we were just like weepy because it is like, wow, this is a life well lived, uh-huh, you know, and I would think all of us want to have a life well lived, you know, no matter how long or short, um we're gonna look back. Hopefully, we're not gonna have too many regrets. Yeah, we always have regrets, but not hopefully too many. And we look back and say, no, I I had a well-lived life, you know. Just like my favorite movie of all times is it's a wonderful life. Yes. And uh it's like we go back and you know, think, yeah, no, I had a wonderful life.

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Yeah.

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And looking at that slideshow and knowing my mother-in-law now for oh my gosh, 50 years, uh, she's had a wonderful life.

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Yeah. So good. And you know what helps us have a wonderful life here in the studio?

Dad Jokes To Set The Tone

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What's that? Dad jokes.

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Yes, dad jokes. So let me introduce the show and then we'll get to some dad jokes. So thank you for joining us, um, our regular listeners. And if you are here for the first time, we say thank you so much. We are in episode 129. And uh so we started um almost three years ago um and talking about biblical topics and the leadership principles from those topics. But two years ago, uh next month, we started through the Bible and talking about the book of Genesis, and we've gone through each book uh one by one. Uh, some weeks it takes us longer to get through a book than others, and uh and so some weeks we do one book and some uh months it we do a book.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah, yeah, so it's just no rhyme or reason. No, but it's our show. We just do, right?

SPEAKER_03

It's not like we have I was looking at the calendar the other day, and we had a calendar, so we had all these things planned, and I think this is a good leadership principle, right there. Um we had all the schedule plan of what book we're gonna do on what day and all that kind of stuff, and I think that thing blew apart the like the second week. Yeah, it did because we were planning like one week per book, like one week for the book of Genesis, one week for the book of Exodus. Well, I don't remember, but it took us like weeks to get through the book of Genesis and Exodus. It took us four weeks to get through the book of Hebrews, but we started two years ago going through the book of Genesis and discussing the leadership principles in that book. Now we're all the way into the New Testament. Um, and uh last week we started the book of James. We finished the first two chapters today. We're gonna hopefully finish the book of James and uh talk about the leadership principles in this particular book, which uh chapter three is uh incredibly talking about the value uh and the destruction of language. Uh so we'll get to that in just a minute. Um and uh in addition to all of that, uh we throw in some dad jokes. We do. We just because we can.

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Just because we can.

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Yeah, we just because we can. So we got a few uh dad jokes for you before we get to the Bible. Go ahead. It's your turn.

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Me? I usually don't have any good ones. Um let's see. Uh where go ahead. Why don't cannibals eat clowns? Because they're a mouthful? I don't know. They taste funny.

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Okay, where do Volkswagens go when they get old?

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Um, I don't know.

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The old Volksholm.

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That's a groaner.

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Of course. That's what it's all about. It is you know the fattest night at King Arthur's round table was circumference. He acquired he acquired his size from too much pie.

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PI. I knew this one where it was going. I liked it, so I liked it. Don't you hate it when people answer their own questions? I do.

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Okay, you know, when I was in high school, we had these races with these little bugs. We put fingernail polish on bugs, put them in a circle, and see which bug would get to the s outside of the circle the fastest. Well, one day we did a snail race. Okay. And I thought, you know what? If I remove my snail from its shell, maybe it would go faster. But as it turns out, it just made it more sluggish.

SPEAKER_00

I like it. You're a big clock guy, right? I'm a big clock guy. You have a lot of clock dad jokes. I think you even gave one last week. So um, but what does a clock do when it's hungry?

SPEAKER_03

Goes back for seconds. There you go. Yes,

A Detour Into Clock Obsession

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yes. Okay, so speaking of this, all of those of you listeners in uh Georgia or in uh East Alabama, yeah, there is a little town, I think it's called Douglasville, Georgia. It's to the west of Atlanta. Um, and it literally has the largest working cuckoo clock in the world. I mean, this thing is like, I don't even know. It's it's like 10 feet tall. It's actually working. Nice, and it has a full-size deer head on the top. And so we saw it about two years ago. We were seeing some friends in Atlanta. We stopped in this little town at this clock shop, and I might not get the town right, but if you're into clocks at all, it is amazing. And obviously, there's literally hundreds and hundreds of clocks in the shop. You can go and buy them, get them repaired, whatever. Um, but one of these days, and it would just be incredible to do this on the spring equinox, okay, which is normally in March, spring equinox, which is the day that the um the day, um, the night and the day, the sunlight are the exact same amount. Okay, so the spring equinox. Um, they take weeks to get all the clocks working, okay? And then on the day of the spring equinox, they have a big party. And you can walk in and hear all these clocks and all that kind of stuff. So we didn't we weren't there on that day, but it just sounds like an incredible. And they have a big party, have hot dogs and all this stuff, and you can walk in and see the clocks. So if if you were ever out there in um in the west side of Atlanta, little town. I think it's called Douglasville, look it up largest uh cuckoo clock in the U.S. Uh, you'll see it. It's just incredible to go into the stop and talk to the people. Yeah.

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I love it. Yeah. So you're gonna have to do that.

SPEAKER_03

So anyway, we're gonna get into the book of James, chapter

Who James Is And Why

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three. Uh, just uh if you need a little bit more background on who this person, James, was uh you can listen to our episode last week if in case you didn't hear it. But um, there was uh one of the original twelve apostles named James. This is not that person. This person that wrote this book was the brother of Jesus. And you say, I didn't know Jesus had brothers. Well, yes, we see that in several places in the Bible, specifically Matthew 13, beginning with verse 55, we see that Jesus' mother and his brothers were there listening to Jesus. And James is listed first, and so it is assumed that he was the secondborn of Mary, because the Bible says that Jesus was her firstborn, not her only child. And so this was the uh brother, or as we say, maybe half-brother of Jesus. Um, and we see also in John 7 that he did not, he knew Jesus, he grew up with Jesus, but he didn't believe he was the son of God there in John chapter 7. Then he had some type of uh understanding, miraculous something that happened, and we see in the book of Acts that he he was one of the 120 disciples that were following Jesus. And then we see in the book of Acts, uh chapter 15, that he became one of the main leaders of the church in Jerusalem. So just over a short period of time, a couple of years, he went from a non-believer to a believer to a significant leader. And this um book here, book of James, uh has some very, very practical uh application to faith. So if this is what you believe, you believe these things about Christ, this is his opinion on how you should live that out.

The Tongue As A Leadership Rudder

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So we get into chapter three today, talking about the the tongue and the importance of words. Um and he compares the tongue to a bit in a horse's mouth, uh butter on a ship, and a small fire that sets a forest ablaze. And uh this time of year we know how destructive those forest fires are. We see some in you know, Colorado, we see some in Arizona, normally in California, and and they can be so destructive so quickly. And so um that's a great comparison to what James is saying about our words.

SPEAKER_00

He was saying that we can tame many creatures in the world, but uh our tongue is extremely difficult.

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Yes, and so just think about that from a leadership point of view, and that is um you know, you could be doing a great job, but one little thing could set you off, and you say something that comes out of your mouth. Now, Jesus said um that whatever comes out of your mouth um originates from your heart, and so uh think about what comes out of your heart, and uh, but it comes out of your mouth, and you know, a simple negative comment, sentence, paragraph, the tone of your voice, whatever, could really set you back as far as the trust of your people. Um it could it could just uh set you back for a while if uh the wrong things come out of your mouth uh at the wrong time or in the midst of your team. And uh now, you know that and that's leaders. I mean, we have to be careful of that. We have to be very, very careful because like uh James says, you know, it's the tongue is like a rudder of a ship. It's small, but it sets the tone and the direction of where you're going. And and so, say, for example, you've had a great year, um, but you're a type of person that the glass is always half empty and you're always looking for, you know, somebody did something wrong, you're just trying to find it, and you come out with a tone of voice uh or something, and you know, you know, I have discovered that in the workplace gossip moves faster than the speed of light. Um, and so you say something negative to one person. Now let's just stop there. Obviously, it's important to not be Pollyannish, you know, sometimes discipline needs to happen, um, but it's important to know how that discipline happens. If you just go off the rail and start yelling at people or, you know, using bad words or whatever, uh that could spread really, really quick through your organization. And it could take months, if not years, to get some of that back, and you might not ever get it some back with some of your people. So um the tongue is really, really crucial.

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Yeah, and that's you know, we talk about that in leadership that you can have um a tight nuke and tight-knit group, right? And everybody can be on the same page, and then you might say one careless sentence and and that that damages that trust, and it takes months, months, and it may not even get rebuilt, you know. And that's yeah, I've seen I've been called in so many times as a leadership coach to work with somebody just for that reason, because they they just made one bonehead mistake and and said something to somebody or disciplined somebody in front of the other group, and you know, that that group mentality kicked in, and and it's just uh one of the things that the line that really uh I loved is uh uh the tongue may be small, but in leadership it holds the steering wheel, you know. And so it's like watch what you say, because you know that's that's like the rudder of the ship. But I like the analogy of the uh steering wheel.

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So yeah, and and I would say this, uh, and I've had to do it a couple of times. If it's something real important, write it down, yeah, and then just read it word for word. Um because so many times people get in trouble because they they talk spontaneously or some something makes them mad at the moment and they fly off the handle. And someone re uh told me something a long time ago that I still remember it was such a powerful image. So you take a pillow, it's a feather pillow, okay? Take a feather pillow, and you're out in the country, and you step out onto the porch of your house out in the country, and the wind's blowing, and you open up that feather pillow, and feathers go out everywhere. Now, the next job is trying to put all the feathers back into the pillow. It will never happen. And so language like is like that. It's like or words are like that. They fly, you don't know where they're gonna land, you don't know what's happening in somebody's heart at that moment or mindset or what happened to them this morning, um, what happened at the doctor yesterday with them or their spouse or their kid. Um, they might have had a car wreck, you know, or whatever you don't know about. And and some words just could just set them off. So think about that feather pillow analogy. You can't get all bad words back into your mouth. They're gonna stick, and some people are gonna hold on to that, and that they're gonna think that's who you really are. You know, you might have been kind to them for a year or two, and then all of a sudden, bam, you blow up in a staff meeting or in a personal one-on-one, uh, or on a Zoom call or something. And uh that just like you just said, it's it sets the direction of the ship. And uh for some, you cannot get some you can get back, okay? But some you can't get back. It's just one of those things, and I've made that mistake too many times and I've paid the price.

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You know, yeah, 100%.

Accountability And Asking For Feedback

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And that leads us into the second point that I wrote down is that James warns teachers because influence carries weights, and this spoke to me, you know, because it talks about if people listen to you or, you know, they copy you or trust your judgment, you know, your worries carry responsibility, you know. And and I think it it applies to trainers, coaches, parents, executives, pastors, whatever it might be. Um, you know, I I found that one sort of uh uh, you know, you have to have accountability in your language. I think that's very important. And I I that one spoke to me as as far as the point that he was trying to make in his in in that little second point there.

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So yeah, and so there uh the question would be is there a time when you have some of your team uh be perfectly honest with you and hold you accountable uh for whatever? Uh I know in the church we always had a group that uh would hold, you know, I would hold the staff accountable, and there was a group that held me accountable. Um and sometimes it were fantastic meetings, sometimes they were, let's just say, challenging meetings uh because of my position or my thoughts or my uh direction of where I thought the church should go. And um it never led to like a a bad thing. Uh well, let's just say maybe once or twice, but but most of the time, you know, it's a it's an opportunity for good conversation. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

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It's a discussion. Yeah, it's a discussion topic. Everything's up for discussion, you know. I even told my people on that everything's up for discussion. I not for saying I won't overrule you on after the discussion, but you you always give people the chance to voice their opinion because that's that's team. It's it's not a uh, you know, your company should be a democracy to a point unless you're, you know, uh somebody that's just barking orders the whole time, but you're never gonna build a team if you don't let people have a little voice in in some of the decisions as well.

SPEAKER_03

So yeah, so let's just talk about that point because if you're a dictatorial leader, autocratic person, and we've all been around people like that, um they don't want to know what you're thinking. No, you know, because they made a decision, uh, don't question it, just follow orders, and that's what it feels like. It's just like you're following orders and uh you're showing up uh to follow their orders. Uh you don't have a say, you don't have input, they don't want to hear it, and uh and that's not a good environment. You know, it might work for some people, but for the leaders, but it obviously doesn't work for the uh people following orders all the time. You might have to do that for your entry job, um, but um before long you're just gonna be miserable. And so uh if you're the leader, uh you need to think about okay, what kind of leader am I? You know, am I a democratic leader, am I a visionary leader, am I an autocratic leader, a dictatorial leader? What what kind of leader am I?

SPEAKER_00

Laissez faire.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, and and so uh you might have to have a conversation with your team, you know, every so often, maybe twice a year, and to say, okay, tell me what you see as my leadership style. Right. You know, because I very rarely people really they think they're doing it one way, and what the people are hearing is something totally different. The tone of voice is something different. And so, you know, every so often I would ask people, uh, you know, when I was a pastor and preaching, what I thought I was saying was not what people were hearing. Right. And you deal with that in your leadership conferences all the time. Uh, you know, you want to be sure that what you said is what they're hearing. And on the timeline, the direction, the motivation, the mission, whatever it is. And that's not always the case.

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No, I I that was the hardest thing with uh dating my wife, you know, and she'd always correct me. She goes, You know, you already told me that. I'm like, Yeah, I'm probably gonna tell you three more times, but I'm gonna tell you in a different tone in a different way, so you get the point. You know, because as a leadership, you try to repeat things multiple times, but you do it in different ways so they get the point. Yes. And uh yeah, she's like, You already told me that. I'm like, Yeah, yeah, you did. There's probably three more times coming.

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So yeah, but don't do it in the next five minutes, you know. Oh a long day. Yeah. So she'd be like, uh oh well. So how long did y'all date before you got like married? Oh, three years or so.

SPEAKER_03

So three years. Wow.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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And you've been married now for how long?

SPEAKER_00

Well, this is going up to us hanging out for a total of twenty years. Wow. Yeah. So we that's fantastic.

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And you have a big birthday tomorrow. Yes. Pretty Excited about it. You should be excited. Should be excited. Celebrate and have a good time. I will.

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Yeah. Promise. That's good.

SPEAKER_03

That's really really good. So let's uh you know, so what you say, how you say it, uh is so crucial as a leader. You know, I think it's a good lesson as a follower, too, because um gossip just destroys an organization, you know, and it it can do quickly. You talk about the tongue is a fire, you know, that's what James talks about in chapter three. But gossip is the same thing. Gossip is a fire, and gossip spreads so quickly in an organization. So you can't you can't ever stop it. Um, but you just have to be aware, and that's why it's so important to know, well, okay, not just what I said, but how what did you hear what I said? So if you're in a meeting, staff meeting, Zoom meeting, whatever, you might just ask them, okay, what did I what did you hear me say? So we can make sure we're all on the same page before we're done today.

Humility Conflict Patience And Correction

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Yeah.

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So so anyway, we get to uh chapter four and uh and five, and um uh I I think a big part of chapter four is is being humble. Um we we read this in in chapter four, verse six that God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble. Um and and uh humility, we've talked about this many times in leadership, uh, is such an important aspect in a good leader, uh, is being humble and um you know you don't have to be the shining star, you don't have to be the center focus of all the attention all the time. Um it's important to step back, let other people get credit. If you're really insecure, you're gonna want all the credit you can get. Right. But if you're secure in your in yourself, in your flesh, and who you are as a person, you're gonna want other people to get the credit. And and that's just good leadership. Um, and so you want to, I don't know, whatever it might be, how you reward people, how you acknowledge people, um, to just step back and let someone else um you know take the credit of when where credit's due. And I just think that's good good policy to to do that.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. So um we we get into um you know chapter five. And yeah, and and um I just wanted to um talk about um you know, James talks about um conflict. We've talked about this last week, but but one of the things that um uh when you have that when there's conflict in an organization, um it's rarely just about the surface issue. Sometimes it's uh it's about control, it's about insecurity, recognition, fear. And and I learned this the hard way a long time ago um in an organization. Obviously, I worked in churches for 45 years, but you know, I've worked I've helped nonprofits raise money, I've volunteered for nonprofits, and and so this principle is uh true, I think, for any organization. And it's not about do decisions need to be made. That that decisions need to be made. Whether your your decision about how much you're gonna order, what's your time frame, what's your what's your product price, you know, price per unit, whatever it is, decisions have to be made in an organization. Here's where the conflict happens who gets to make those decisions, you know. Um and it needs to be clear as to who gets to make the decisions. Um obviously as a pastor, um, I had to make a lot of decisions, but I tried to get my people to make decisions at the lowest level, you know. So so I didn't I didn't want to make all the decisions, but I empowered people and gave them the authority to make certain decisions. And and I just think that is helping to the whole organization. Then we'd have staff meeting every week, a big staff meeting every week, and and people would have an opportunity to share what the what they were doing and and what they're responsible for and report so everybody was up to date on what they were doing. Now, obviously, some projects took a day or two, other projects took months to do. Um, but it it's about who gets to make decisions. And so if you're the leader and you're having to make all the decisions, then I'd question your leadership style. Right. Uh and just say, okay, who can make this decision? You know, who can make the decision about this or who made a decision about that? Um and and that to me is a huge leadership issue.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and then uh another point to add on to that is um patience. Uh I think that he really got into patience is is part of maturity, right? You know, the the common, you know, saying, you know, the farmer waits for fruit, you know. Right. And uh um I don't think every result can be forced, um, and every decision can be forced. Sometimes it has to be cultivated. Sometimes you have to be patient. You have sometimes you have to let your your people develop so they can help you in the decisions, and and it's gonna be a different decision from you know having a staff of all brand new people to having staff of people been there for 20 years, you know. And uh I thought that was an important uh um thought. And then I guess the last one I sort of had on my my thing is that that uh he James ended with bringing back uh the wanderers, what they call it, you know. So so the goal of correction is recovery, it's it's not the humiliation. So in other words, sometimes we veer off, but at the same time, you're not gonna say, that's wrong. I'm gonna humiliate you in front of all your your peers and all that stuff, but it's uh uh let's let's get you back on track, and and you as a leader need to do that and and take that very seriously.

SPEAKER_03

So let's go back to the patience part. It reminds me of a conversation I had more than one time with a young man that was a very good friend of our son, and he uh wanted to date this girl. So we started dating her, and he wanted to advance a relationship quickly. And I won't say his name, uh, nice young man. Um, but I said, you gotta think about this. Think of your relationship with this person like a rose bud. If you try to force a rose to bloom faster, you're gonna ruin it. You know? Um, so you've got to let it take its course at its proper time and allow it to develop in the proper if you if you try to do it too fast, it's gonna fall apart. Um so slow is good. Okay. And allow that relationship to develop in its normal process. Um and uh he did, they're married now, have a child. I mean, it's so I think sometimes we rush things um to our detriment. Um, and so patience here, sometimes just like our podcast, you know, we had a whole outline of doing going through the Bible in a year, and now it's two years and we're still not done. But but we're we're thinking of quality, time, and and making sure, yes, we still have a desire to go through the whole Bible, and we will by the end of the year, but um we want to dive deep into everything we're doing. And uh I would think the same thing is true. Now, I'm not saying uh timelines and deadlines are not important, um, but sometimes you need to be realistic about those timelines and deadlines in order to have a productive company. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, you have to use them as uh uh you know guardrails, but don't make it where it's the absolute, you know, the the gospel as far as uh the timelines and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_03

So I agree. All right.

Next Week Preview And Final Jokes

SPEAKER_00

So end of um uh end of chat uh end of the book of James. Sure, you sure we don't want to do a recap next week or something?

SPEAKER_03

So no, we're gonna get into First Peter next week. And uh Peter. Yeah, so wow, that is a incredible individual, but uh very similar to James in that okay, this is I was one of the 12. Um, this is what I experienced, and this is how I believe people are supposed to live. And so it'll be exciting to get into that and uh just just be good. So exciting. Before we end up uh today, we gotta throw in a few dad jokes.

SPEAKER_00

We do a few more, a few more.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so what's an astronaut's favorite part of a computer?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I know this one. Yes, you do. I do space bar. The space bar. That's it. What's a cow's favorite music note?

SPEAKER_03

A cow's favorite music note?

SPEAKER_00

Being a musician, you are. You should know this one.

SPEAKER_03

Uh Moo?

SPEAKER_00

No. What? B flat.

SPEAKER_03

B flat. Oh. Okay, so speaking of your birthday, oh yeah. Being a big Star Wars guy.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Okay. How did Darth Vader know what Luke got him for his birthday?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, this is I don't know. I've never heard this one.

SPEAKER_03

He felt his presence. Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_00

Nice. Oh why can't a bank keep a secret?

SPEAKER_03

How come a bank can't keep a secret? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00

Because there's too many tellers.

SPEAKER_03

That's a good one. Um, let's just let's just see if we can find a few more before we uh what did the number zero say to the number eight? You're way ahead of me.

SPEAKER_00

Your belt's too tight.

SPEAKER_03

That's funny.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_03

You know, we had an old vacuum cleaner that we sold. Yes. Yeah, it was just gathering dust.

SPEAKER_00

Nice. All right, what you got? One more.

SPEAKER_03

Maybe one more.

SPEAKER_00

One more.

SPEAKER_03

Um, so what kind of car does sheep like to drive? Black. Black Lamborghini. A Lamborghini. A Lamborghini.

SPEAKER_00

All right. You good? You good?

SPEAKER_03

Uh am I good? Uh yes, I'm good. Do I need to have another dad joke? I have probably 500.

SPEAKER_00

I know you have one. I didn't know. I don't want to cut you off in the middle of dad joke zone, so you know.

SPEAKER_03

So, why did the pig get hired by the restaurant? Da-da-da-da-da-da. Because he was really good at bacon.

SPEAKER_02

Nice.

SPEAKER_00

All right, guys. Check us out, biblical leadership show.com. I was I was going to I was going a different direction on it. So I was I was trying to figure that one out. Um, so uh check us out, biblical leadership show.com. Um, other than that, uh send us prayer requests, send us uh, you know, subjects and dad jokes. Dad jokes and uh anything else that you might want to do. And um I got one more.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, because it's hot in Texas. I mean it's the end of July, it's hot. It is. So uh a guy knocked on my door the other day. They're trying to put a community pool in our in our subdivision. Yeah, and he was asking for a donation for the swimming pool, so I gave him a glass of water.

SPEAKER_00

It's great.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, enough for that.

SPEAKER_00

All right, so birthday tomorrow.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, well, have a great day.

SPEAKER_00

I will. Thank you for that. Thanks for coming and hanging out and all the celebration here in the studio. You bet. So other than that, I guess Dr. P take us out. Thanks for joining us. Make it a great day. Make it a great day.