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025 You Are The Conductor: From Irrational Faith To Supreme Creation Featuring Jaclyn Shaw

• Homaya / Jac • Season 2 • Episode 25

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Welcome, beloveds. It’s happening, yes, really! I’m so grateful you’re here with me for this special episode of The Calling. Today, I’m joined by the radiant Jaclyn Shaw, and together, we’re diving deep into the energy of soul contracts, sacred gatherings, and the truth that moves us beyond logic and into the heart of creation. The energy is palpable, shivers, excitement, and a sense that we are exactly where we’re meant to be.

Episode Summary 🌟

In this episode, Jaclyn and I explore what it means to recognise and honour soul contracts, those ancient agreements that shape our lives and call us into bigger stages - both literally and energetically. We speak about The Golden Gathering, the power of saying a sacred yes, and the willingness to stretch our capacity for faith, presence, and truth.

We share from our own journeys: the leaps of faith, the moments of doubt, and the unwavering trust required to walk with an open heart. We discuss the dance between the human and the divine, the illusion of judgment, and the role of paradise consciousness as a state of true abundance.

Above all, we invite you to move with your soul’s calling, to enter the room, and to let your frequency lead the way, no logic required, just presence, willingness, and deep remembrance.

Key Takeaways 💡

  • Soul contracts are felt beyond logic, they call us into presence, connection, and destiny.
  • The willingness to move, to say yes, and to stretch into new capacities is essential for spiritual growth.
  • True abundance is found in peace, openness, and the courage to remain in the heart, even when it’s uncomfortable.
  • Judgement, shame, and doubt are illusions of the human realm, transcend them by choosing love and self-forgiveness.
  • Manifestation flows when we align with our truth and allow ourselves to be nurtured, not just busy.
  • The greatest transformation happens when we step into rooms, spaces, and experiences that activate our deepest truth and frequency.

Resources & Links 🔗

  • Feeling called to join us at The Golden Gathering? Trust your yes and follow the invitation, you never know how your presence will shift everything.
  • Jaclyn’s new book launches on 14th October, connect with Jaclyn for more details and inspiration.

Thank you for being here, for listening, and for moving with your soul. I am so grateful for your presence. Let’s keep opening, keep moving, and keep creating together.

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[00:00:00] Homaya: Yes, it's happening. Welcome. Yay. Oh my God. Although we were speaking like two minutes ago, now the energy is in and I'm like hyper excited again. Welcome. 

[00:00:16] Jaclyn Shaw: Do you know, do you know what? As you start, like you feel hyper excited and I felt like coming in, I was like. I feel like we could just sit here and people would receive like just you and I and presence and energetic connection together.

[00:00:28] Jaclyn Shaw: For me. For me, [00:00:30] it always feels like a gift to be in presence with you. 

[00:00:33] Homaya: Oh my God, thank you so much. And of course, this is such a similar deep beyond, beyond this body, beyond this life. I keep on feeling wow. Whether it is about us working together in the past, whether it is you being now a guest in Golden, ah, the great gathering as [00:01:00] I decided to lock this description.

[00:01:03] Homaya: It is so clear that this is a soul contract, and a soul contract is about me, and it is about you, and it is way beyond me and you when someone is signing a contract to manifest, to commit full commitment in this life because it is anchored so clearly in the creation like pillars of [00:01:30]creation, of course, the ripple effect of it.

[00:01:34] Homaya: He's undeniable. 

[00:01:35] Jaclyn Shaw: Ooh. And one thing that you've heard me say a million times is I'm not willing to deny my soul. And this is the thing for me with soul contracts is it is felt like it is felt in a moment. It is. Felt in an instant, and sometimes it doesn't make sense why we feel the pull so deeply, so powerfully that call to say yes, that call to not need to know any more [00:02:00] of the details or how it's going to play out.

[00:02:02] Jaclyn Shaw: But it's that sole resonance immediately and that. We've shared this on a previous podcast re recorded together of like we felt it when we each heard each other's names. And then when you brought forward the invitation for me to attend The Golden and to come speak on the stage at Golden, that same essence, that same energy is like, yes, I'm there.

[00:02:22] Jaclyn Shaw: Like, yes, this is it. Like, yes, like I'm coming. Yes, let's do this. And it does feel like what you said it felt like. [00:02:30] It feels like an ancient remembering. It feels like, oh this was already in place. Like our human is now catching up to what our soul has decided long ago. 

[00:02:39] Homaya: How am I going to do this podcast recording?

[00:02:42] Homaya: Because I keep on having shivering after shiver, after shiver, after shiver. I feel that this conversation is so important. 

[00:02:49] Jaclyn Shaw: I felt it when you said the great gathering. It literally like the energy just moved right up here through my whole being. The moment you said the words, the Great Gathering, I was like.

[00:02:59] Jaclyn Shaw: Let's [00:03:00] just breathe into that because that is what this is. 

[00:03:04] Homaya: Exactly. And as I had a conversation with Sophia and I had a conversation with other people who are tuning into this field that has nothing logic in it. Nothing, nothing until now. And we are like, I don't know, 28 days, more or less before.

[00:03:24] Homaya: It keeps on being illogical. It almost feel like [00:03:30] it wants to fake something really big and it feels, many people are saying to me, it's a film that's going to change this trajectory. I know. The energy that I'm bringing, and I know what I wish to create, but with the awareness of how the field is taking it, oh wow.

[00:03:56] Homaya: This is one of the reasons why I said, okay. I know that it is [00:04:00] a great gathering. I know it's a great gathering. I got that message. Long ago I got that message. When the template of the intuitive, the light activator came to me, I got the message, you need to gather the people and give it to them. So they will awake. So they will connect, so they will have the meaning. And whenever I speak about it, people are saying, oh my God, I feel I am in that field [00:04:30] already.

[00:04:30] Homaya: I feel that this piece is important. So yeah. It is beyond me and you. It is beyond the soul contract. It's our soul contract and everyone's presence. Soul contract. Yeah. I less like to use the words remembering. But there is something in it. It's a combination of remembering and surrendering to the futuristic and simultaneously the ancient or beyond time knowing that you [00:05:00] have inside of you.

[00:05:01] Jaclyn Shaw: And I feel as well, I've had some people message me since they knew that I've been coming, like since they found out that I'm coming. They've messaged. And same thing, like feeling that essence. I've also had some clients that said yes before they knew I was coming and they were like, I felt your essence in this offering.

[00:05:19] Jaclyn Shaw: I felt it before I even knew. And this is like, this is it. People really tuned into the energetics and the frequency. Of Golden and it's fascinating as we [00:05:30] say this because I feel like people who are in the energy, in that frequency with us, like it's undeniable. They feel it. And then recently I've had some people who don't really know me, they don't really know what I do.

[00:05:41] Jaclyn Shaw: Like they know me from like passing me at the gym or so, they just in ways that they know me in passing and. They've asked like summer plans, and I say like, I'm going to speak at this event to port in Portugal and then traveling to the south of France and they're like, oh, like traveling to Portugal to speak.

[00:05:55] Jaclyn Shaw: Like that's just so fun. And I'm like, I don't actually say this, but I don't wanna be like, you don't [00:06:00] understand, it's not just like speaking at an event in Portugal. I'm like, it is like beyond speaking at an event, it's like there's just so much more. 

[00:06:11] Homaya: Yeah. It's a great gathering and I knew when I knew I going to stretch myself and build a bigger stage.

[00:06:26] Homaya: I was, oh, the first person I was just [00:06:30] like, it was so clear. You're coming and I know that there was also no question from your side. 

[00:06:39] Jaclyn Shaw: There was no question. There was no question from my side. It was an immediate yes. And one thing that's really fascinating, as you say these words, like I stretched myself to build this bigger stage.

[00:06:50] Jaclyn Shaw: This is the frequency I'm in right now is like stretching capacity for everything from like some leap of faith moments. Some trust falls with God to stretching my [00:07:00] capacity in. Holding and honoring my sacred yes, and my sacred, no stretching my capacity. I mean even, Even the journey I'm about to embark on in the next 28 days coming to Golden.

[00:07:13] Jaclyn Shaw: After that, I'm making a move across the country. After that, my book is being released into the world, so I feel like. Similar to you in this, like the capacity that's being expanded right now in both of our energy fields, but this is something that's very collective [00:07:30] as well. Yeah. It's like people really in this space of like that willingness, the willingness and the unwillingness and that expansion.

[00:07:38] Jaclyn Shaw: That capacity that really is, we're being called to stretch in new ways, in new depths of ownership of our truth, of the full claiming of who we are, stretching our capacity in playing with the desires and the not make sense on knowing energy fields. 

[00:07:54] Homaya: Yeah, okay. That really takes me so strong to [00:08:00] Paradise and I chose this theme.

[00:08:04] Homaya: For Golden this year, and those who are learning with me and following my teachings and so on. So there's this description of the paradise opener as an imprint of a light activator. The one, not only there is awareness, but there is something beyond. But they're almost losing your [00:08:30] mind in a way, going out of your mind and not because you are getting crazy or something like that, it's just because you do not accept the control of the mind to tap into a space and new space and expended pay space.

[00:08:48] Homaya: And while so many stories. Even the original story in the Bible as going out of paradise as a punishment, [00:09:00] there's a punishment of how you're going to give birth and how much you're going to work, right? This is like the two punishment on the masculine and the feminine.

[00:09:09] Homaya: I see this expansion into paradise, an act of elevated love. And when you are now speaking, and this is one of the reason that I felt like I wanna, I want Jack also to be there and communion in that space

[00:09:29] Homaya: [00:09:30] of the fearless presence. I have this sentence that I'm saying many times, it's not that the universe.

[00:09:42] Homaya: As a courageous, this is just half of the truth. The universe favor those who walk with their heart. It's not about the courage. 

[00:09:55] Jaclyn Shaw: Yeah. But it does take courage oftentimes to walk with your heart, to [00:10:00] walk unwaveringly with your truth, to lead with your faith. And I think this is that piece for me where it's like the, being courageous and being brave and being bold. Because oftentimes what we are called to do, as spiritual leaders and teachers and in these conversations is to go beyond into places where.

[00:10:20] Jaclyn Shaw: Many haven't been willing to go before. It's the reclaiming of that voice that, we've been persecuted from speaking our truth before. [00:10:30] And so that for me is that like peace around being courageous and being brave. It takes courage and bravery to truly lead from your heart, to truly lead from your soul.

[00:10:40] Jaclyn Shaw: And even as you say the word, or as I said, the word heart there. This is where I think sometimes heart led leadership isn't taken to that depth. It's like doing what feels good or what feels nice, or what feels, and it's like sometimes it's not, sometimes like I feel it's deeper, it's deeper.

[00:10:57] Jaclyn Shaw: It's like I often call this the portal behind the [00:11:00] heart where we're accessing the vastness of the universe within and the God within. And that means that sometimes to stand in your truth, it's wildly. Uncomfortable. That means sometimes standing in your truth that things aren't going to look the way that you thought they were going to look.

[00:11:16] Jaclyn Shaw: I had a very recent experience of this that, that, to be honest, was very emotional, was very like, oh, you thought that this was going to happen and this your voice was going to be brought to the world and this way. And all of a [00:11:30] sudden, in a moment it was like. I'm going to use the words taken away from you.

[00:11:34] Jaclyn Shaw: That's what it can feel like at the human level and at the soul level. And what I can see in hindsight just a few months later, like, thank God, like thank God it didn't go the way my human wanted it to go. The human like that was trying to control that pathway because that ultimately. Would've led to a compromise in my truth, a compromise in my voice, like a sacrifice in my voice, dilution of my words, and [00:12:00] my frequency, which I am just absolutely unavailable for.

[00:12:04] Homaya: Yeah. So you know, what comes to me is how many times we engage with something that we know that this is our soul contract, or we feel, or we are, we hear it, we sense it, we go for it, and then. In so many reasons and so many stories, we block it in the middle. Sometimes I'm looking at people and sometimes of course, also on myself, and I'm getting better and better.

[00:12:29] Homaya: Although so [00:12:30] many times I gave everything because I knew that this is not the path to continue. But you see sometimes that the faith or the trust is understood as a concept, f. You can mentalize it, but not necessarily you have the trust for it in the throat. Not necessarily. You follow it in your heart.

[00:12:51] Homaya: Many times. You close it on the second chakra, you close it. When you, it gets to cash, you close it. When it gets to act, you trust trust, but you don't [00:13:00] trust 

[00:13:01] Jaclyn Shaw: fully. And what I see in this, it's like I see this a lot actually. It's like I have the faith or the trust as soon as I make the decision, but then not beyond that, so then I don't trust to follow through.

[00:13:13] Jaclyn Shaw: I don't trust in the intuitive nudge I get after because I may make the decision that feels like, faith, leap of faith moment feels like the trust wall with God. But then beyond that. My human comes in and the human comes in and waivers, and the human comes in and questions, and the human comes in and wants [00:13:30] to control things, and the human comes in and wonders the how.

[00:13:33] Jaclyn Shaw: And so for me, I feel like it's okay. Make that move, make that decision. But that's not where it ends. Like that is truly just the beginning. It's gotta go beyond that so that they're going forward. Each step is taken in faith. Each step is taken as a reclamation of who you are honoring self. 

[00:13:53] Homaya: Yeah. Many times I'm saying to myself when I feel and I feel I'm shaking sometimes, okay, I've done [00:14:00] it.

[00:14:00] Homaya: Of then, okay, I invested there. Okay. I signed in that or okay, I gave it up, I rejected, I disconnected, and I can, the mind can come and it is okay. I keep on saying to myself, it is okay that the mind will have some questions after it is done. It is okay that it will take time to the physical body, mental body, emotional body, and even spiritual body to digest that move in a different rhythm and in a [00:14:30] different timeframe.

[00:14:31] Homaya: I can still hold space for that. 

[00:14:32] Jaclyn Shaw: And that's important. You feel, how do you, I think that's like, that's absolutely important because what tends to happen, again in these moments, it's like, okay that I've made the leap of faith moment or decision, and then I feel a little bit of pressure. I feel a little bit of whatever it is.

[00:14:47] Jaclyn Shaw: My, like you said, mental body. Emotional body is catching up and then that's where we typically compound it. Then we feel bad about ourselves for having that thought, or we shame ourselves or feel guilty or think now we've [00:15:00] totally, ruined the manifestation or whatever it is because we make it mean something that we're human.

[00:15:05] Jaclyn Shaw: And it's like, yes, I'm a divine being and a human being, and so I can make the leap of faith decisions of moments. I can have those moments and then I walk with faith. But on that walk, it's a walk. It's a walk, it's a journey. And so if I, if there's a pebble on the ground and I like trip over it for a second, it's not a big deal unless I let that be the thing that now stops me.

[00:15:26] Jaclyn Shaw: Unless I'm like, oh, now I've gotta start all over again. No, [00:15:30] just like sit in awareness. Sit in sacred witness of yourself. Oh yeah. This is where I tend to veer off the path. This is where I tend to sit. On the side of the road, what happens if I don't make that mean anything about me, about the desire about where I'm walking and I continue to walk.

[00:15:45] Jaclyn Shaw: I continue to walk. I forgive myself if there's forgiveness. I stop judging myself for having a human moment when I chose to come here. Just as you chose to come here, as we've all chose to come here. Like we chose to come here as divine [00:16:00] beings to have a human experience, so we can't. Get mad at ourselves or throw a hissy fit or a temp for tantrum every time we feel a human thought or emotion.

[00:16:10] Homaya: Yeah, it takes me to this, many times I'm saying, okay, you can expect a challenge to come. Instead of being fearful and terrified and possessed and obsessed with the fact that maybe a challenge will come or maybe it wouldn't work. It takes me to the moment when I was Yuval and I, we just started our relationship [00:16:30] and, you start the relationship.

[00:16:31] Homaya: Everything is honey, and the birds and butterfly and everything is amazing. And then after like, maybe probably three months or something like that, there was a moment where. He got nervous and he was like, and he was supposed after that to take me to a certain place and the energy was I remember that he was a little bit uncomfortable with it and I told him, it's okay.

[00:16:59] Homaya: I [00:17:00] just had the privilege to see how you are. When you are nervous, I cannot buy to the idea that because there's so much love between us, it means that I would never see you nervous. I would never see you disappointed. I would never. So if I'm able to do that with him, definitely we are all able to do that with ourself.

[00:17:21] Homaya: You buy in an idea, you enter to a project, you start an experience. [00:17:30] Can you. Just be in peace that there are chances that there will be some rocks on the way. Yeah. 

[00:17:38] Jaclyn Shaw: Yeah. And the way that I see this as well is any time that we experience something that I will say is an illusion of the human realm. Meaning?

[00:17:47] Jaclyn Shaw: Meaning that it doesn't exist in the spirit realm. And so anytime we experience the feeling of shame, the feeling of guilt, the feeling of. Not enoughness. That [00:18:00] these are just three examples. The feeling of failure, whatever. It's like these are just some examples that doesn't exist in the divine realm.

[00:18:08] Jaclyn Shaw: Shame doesn't exist, guilt doesn't exist. And so if I'm experiencing it in a the human realm, that means there's always an opportunity for transcendence. There's always an opportunity for growth through that feeling because there's the opportunity to look through the lens of. Okay. What's the lens I'm looking at in [00:18:30] experiencing the shame?

[00:18:30] Jaclyn Shaw: Oh, I'm looking through the lens of judgment. That's where we get to shift. This is where we get to shift through the eyes of love, through the eyes of God. Because through the eyes of love, through the eyes of God, that experience isn't real. Like it's not rooted in absolute truth. And it can feel very, it feels real.

[00:18:47] Jaclyn Shaw: It feels painful, it feels hard, it feels sad. It feels traumatic. It feels all of the things. There's always, the opportunity for growth There a breakthrough there. That transcendence there. [00:19:00] Yeah, 

[00:19:00] Homaya: because it, it feels sad or it feels like a breakdown or like the experience that you were sharing that it really, like probably distorted your vision of what is possible because you were.

[00:19:15] Homaya: Expecting and so locked 

[00:19:17] Jaclyn Shaw: on like tunnel, just right there. It was. It was tunnel vision. It was the only possibility I was willing to see.

[00:19:24] Homaya: Yes. And then that shake maybe felt uncomfortable, but it [00:19:30] mainly felt uncomfortable to the judged mind. The, the judge inside that is saying, oh, this is the only thing that is happening, or the only thing that I can see.

[00:19:41] Homaya: Nothing else. But while this shake is happening. The heart is opening up, possibilities are opening up the range, the spectrum is expanded. There are more colors that you've never seen before just because of that. Because the rage, the emotion, [00:20:00] the tears, like everything is just stretched. The reality.

[00:20:05] Jaclyn Shaw: Oh my gosh. Okay. So I have to share a bit more of this with you just because of what you shared there and because it's you and I, this had to do with the book that I am in the stages of publishing. It's going to be released to the world on October 14th of this year, and. I thought it was, I really had the tunnel vision of the way that it was going to be brought to the world and of what the forward was going to look like.

[00:20:29] Jaclyn Shaw: The whole [00:20:30] path of it. And through this experience, it's actually been added into the book. It's now the forward of the book through my own voice, through my own words of the experience of where I was given an opportunity, where there was, the exact word was that my experience was shameful.

[00:20:48] Jaclyn Shaw: I was given the opportunity to dilute my voice to decide like, yeah let's actually remove my story because it's shameful. I was given a lot of opportunity and. Now that's actually become a teaching [00:21:00] inside the book of owning my power and owning my truth and owning my voice. And so without that experience, this wouldn't even exist in the book.

[00:21:08] Jaclyn Shaw: And I know that this book is meant to deeply serve people. So having that added experience in the book, to me it's the beg. It's now the beginning of the book. At first I thought it would be the afterward, and now it's the beginning of the book. This is what I'm going to powerfully lead in if I didn't have that experience.

[00:21:24] Jaclyn Shaw: That felt sad and disappointing. Heartbreaking, to be honest. I mean there was a lot of [00:21:30] emotion. There was a lot of tears. Shed, if I didn't have that experience, I feel like I would've not been able to now bless others through the remembrance I came into with that experience. It's the graduation 

[00:21:42] Homaya: of writing the book.

[00:21:44] Homaya: Yes. It's a graduation party. It doesn't feel like a party to the mind. Yes, but to the soul. It's a 

[00:21:51] Jaclyn Shaw: graduation party. Yes. That's what I, that's what I feel and I have to tell you, this is a maybe just for you and me moment, but I have a smile on my face [00:22:00] because the editing team that I'm working with now and the publisher right now, we're toying with the idea of changing the title and the name of the book, and they really.

[00:22:09] Jaclyn Shaw: And one of the parts is called the Spiritual SmackDown, and they really want that to be the title of the book. And I was like, Nope. Like I can't, like after the conversation you and I have had about Spiritual SmackDown, I'm like, who knows? Who knows? I might change my mind. That might end up being the title, but you immediately came into the energy field when [00:22:30] it was suggested.

[00:22:32] Homaya: Oh, I'm so happy to be in the book, whatever, in whatever way. I'm in the book. I'm in the book. It's so funny. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah it's powerful. It is important.

[00:22:44] Homaya: I am concerned energetically that. We're going out of the paradise every time we judge, every time we lose the belief in ourself every time. Yeah. We prejudge every [00:23:00] time we believe that we know what is right and we cannot even get how much we do it, but we do it so much. 

[00:23:08] Jaclyn Shaw: Yeah. 

[00:23:10] Homaya: So I'm not judging the.

[00:23:13] Homaya: Spiritual SmackDown anymore. I'm really seeing the judgment from that as well. 

[00:23:21] Jaclyn Shaw: But this piece, I mean that right there, and I love this connection and the energy and the essence you're bringing in Golden in [00:23:30] Paradise because like what you just said there, like we. Naturally, like live in paradise in the frequency, like our soul always remembers.

[00:23:42] Jaclyn Shaw: It's our human that kind of veers outside of paradise when we. Have judgment of self shame when we are not willing to forgive ourselves, when we betrayed ourself, when we have thoughts, thoughts about ourselves when we have these thoughts of unworthiness or not [00:24:00]being enough, or who am I? Who am I to do this and to do that's what takes you out of paradise not in my perspective, because you've done something wrong and you're being punished.

[00:24:11] Jaclyn Shaw: You're choosing to punish yourself. 

[00:24:15] Homaya: So crazy. It is so crazy. The disbelief. The disbelief that you will, fill up the room in golden. The disbelief that you will find your [00:24:30] mate the disbelief that you will earn that and that sum, the disbelief that. I don't know that the book will be published worldwide and be translated to 17 languages.

[00:24:42] Homaya: And then from the disbelief we limit ourself and we close our heart. And there's nothing stronger than an open heart. Nothing 

[00:24:51] Homaya: stronger than that. 

[00:24:53] Jaclyn Shaw: And that right there, like that to me is the work like that for me, is the calling. [00:25:00] Can I remain open? Can I remain open when I'm having trouble seeing when it feels like there's something blurring my vision?

[00:25:08] Jaclyn Shaw: Can I remain open when it feels hard? Can I remain open when I feel lost? Can I remain open when I don't have it figured out? Can I remain open? And the more that we remain open, the more that. More just gets to be revealed to us because there's a clear pathway. When you're open, there's a [00:25:30] pathway that you can have, the next piece of the puzzle, that next step, that next idea, that next whatever has a pathway to find you when you are open.

[00:25:41] Jaclyn Shaw: So strong.

[00:25:43] Jaclyn Shaw: We are so busy human. Are so busy in creating what they want to themselves, where what they want can come in such a beautiful way, just not necessarily the way that they 

[00:25:57] Jaclyn Shaw: wanted it to come.

[00:25:58] Homaya: Focus [00:26:00] on manifestation. And another manifestation. And another manifestation, and people are focused on the way to manifest instead of, this is me and that is the experience. And it'll like, how are you expecting? I don't know. You are in England and you wanna get to France without crossing the sea. You're going to get the France, but get the muscles to cross the sea.

[00:26:26] Jaclyn Shaw: One thing I feel called to share, it feels in [00:26:30] connection to this and maybe also taking us a bit direction, but I'll just share one thing that has felt something that I've really brought into my awareness. I feel like it's been there, but like even deeper and more so recently. Is when you set the busyness, the busyness of like trying to figure this out and trying to get this and trying to bring this manifestation to life.

[00:26:52] Jaclyn Shaw: I asked myself the question, is this, is this conversation, is this podcast going to nurture me as well? So it's not [00:27:00] just about doing, it's that nurturing essence is, does it bring me deeper into my remembrance of self, my expression of self? And people often ask me, I'm a projector in my human design and when I run, when I lead events or run in person, like, doesn't that take so much energy and like, how do you do this?

[00:27:18] Jaclyn Shaw: And I design everything in a way that it serves me as well as serves the people in attendance. Like coming to Portugal and being part of Golden, it's. Truly like it's not [00:27:30] just for you, Homaya, it's not just for the audience. It is truly for me first, it's for me to be in that energy with myself. It's for me to have a stage and a platform and a space where I get to be so deep in resonance with my truth that I get to speak it and I get to be in that fullest expression of self.

[00:27:51] Jaclyn Shaw: And so I say yes to the things that. That nurture me, that are life giving to me. And then I have the energy. It's like if I'm activated [00:28:00] by it, like I've got the energy and will fly across the country and speak and the this and the that. But I think this is where many. When you're talking about the manifestations, it's like many then make decisions that are not in alignment with giving them life force energy that are not in alignment with truth, but they think from the head, like from the mind.

[00:28:20] Jaclyn Shaw: It's in alignment with the results. And when I say they do, I do this too? Yes, we, but this is something I've been like more and more aware of. I get to say [00:28:30] yes. The things that feel life giving to me that bring me deeper in resonance of self. Deeper in remembrance of who I am, but anything that takes me out of that, again, like outside of this paradise, I also get to say no to.

[00:28:47] Homaya: Yeah, it is for me still in the frequency of the judgment, the judge, oh, here is how it's safe. Here is how it's already proven. Here is what makes [00:29:00] logic. If it already, If there's logic here, it's already done. Someone else have done it. It's not necessarily you. It doesn't have your signature, it doesn't have your flow.

[00:29:14] Homaya: Maybe you're going to get it now because you gave it a try, but it's not necessarily going to be able to be like a building block in your own creation of your own life, of your own joy. So yes, you're going to get a V, you're going to make that thing, but not [00:29:30] necessarily. You'll be able to do the next one and imagine what is the personality that you build when you're trying to do what is safe all the time, and what is logic all the time and what is explained all the time, the thing that you need the most, which is the trust and the faith.

[00:29:51] Homaya: The confidence that comes with it. You don't give it a chance to build it up because we always wanted to go to know how to do it now and what [00:30:00] is the way now, okay, I've done it like that. Where is the confidence? Where is the muscles? Where are they? 

[00:30:08] Jaclyn Shaw: I mean it, they don't exist. If we don't let that build, if we don't let that be part of the experience, if we don't, like I said before, like if we're not willing to walk, if we're not willing for it to be a journey.

[00:30:20] Homaya: Yeah. Yeah. It's really 

[00:30:24] Homaya: the willing to be going with the feeling, going with the intuition, going [00:30:30]with the guts, going with the, like especially as spiritual teachers, as spiritual being as light activators. We are not, I would even say, I don't know why to feel that. I feel to say allowed, we cannot allow ourself.

[00:30:46] Homaya: To go into places that are too much known and expected and controlled and satisfying the mind because [00:31:00] everything that is within the known is mental. Every word that it is within the known is mental. Every experience that you know. Exactly. So your mind immediately going to construct something there and even your own personal power knowing that what the fact that you are entering the room 

[00:31:22] Homaya: is going to influence the room.

[00:31:24] Homaya: You don't build that energy. 

[00:31:28] Jaclyn Shaw: Yeah. [00:31:30] Yeah, and like that right there, like what you just said there, like being in the room influences the room. I think we really underestimate our energetic powers. I think we really underestimate the frequency that's felt experienced, shared when we're in, places and in connection with others.

[00:31:55] Homaya: Yeah, so people are walking and getting [00:32:00] so activated. People are walking, honestly, lonely 

[00:32:04] Homaya: and hungry. Lonely and hungry, but they wanna know everything before anything is happening. 

[00:32:17] Homaya: Of course, you're lonely. You didn't put yourself in the equation. You're not lonely because there's no people around you because no one is understanding you because you cannot connect.

[00:32:28] Homaya: No, you [00:32:30] yourself. You didn't take into consideration that if you enter, something will happen. This is the core of loneliness. Of course, you are hungry because your mind is already satisfied with the information. You didn't allow the filling to come in and fill you up. 

[00:32:49] Jaclyn Shaw: And I feel like this is what happens also when we're like hungry and if I even take this back to myself, remember when I said I had that like tunnel vision around the book?

[00:32:57] Jaclyn Shaw: It's like I'm hungry not even realizing [00:33:00] it. I'm literally walking by many things that wanna feed me and nurture me and give life to me. But because I'm so in the like vision of the destination, I walk by feeling lonely and hungry when. There's something right beside me. If I just take a little look this way, that would feed me in this moment.

[00:33:21] Jaclyn Shaw: And then this is where we block, this is where we block things. We don't allow ourselves to be fed, to be nurtured, to be satisfied, to be [00:33:30] expanded, unless. We can see it first. Unless it's expected, unless there's control of it. 

[00:33:37] Homaya: Yeah. We're safe. We're safe. We know. We know what we sign. We know how much it costs.

[00:33:42] Homaya: It means it logic, the price and what we're supposed to get. We already know what's going to. I think as I'm listening to that, I'm saying to myself, oh my God, it's not for nothing that I started with sharing that I feel that Golden going to be revolutionary. It's not only with the teachings, it's just like being in the presence.

[00:33:59] Homaya: [00:34:00] Of where this conversation and similar conversation being in a room where all the people who's going to be in the room are interested in that level of freedom, in level of, in their embodiment, not as a concept. 

[00:34:15] Jaclyn Shaw: Yes. Yes. And this is why I find spaces like Golden. This is something I often hear when people are in energetic presence with me.

[00:34:24] Jaclyn Shaw: Just like the move, it's a lot of emotion comes forward. A lot of people are like, I didn't expect that I was going to jump on this call with you and have [00:34:30] all these tears. But when you're in spaces like this and in this presence that we're talking about energetically, why a lot of emotion tends to come forward for people is because they've just entered into like such a deep truth.

[00:34:44] Jaclyn Shaw: Frequency and all of a sudden, I see this all the time, like the transformation that happens so quickly because all of a sudden like things just start to peel away and peel away. When you are experiencing, when you put yourself in a room [00:35:00] where you're experiencing that level, that depth, that frequency of.

[00:35:05] Jaclyn Shaw: Of truth, of truth, of faith, of connection, of, it's an, it's a vibration that you're literally experiencing. Not just learning about, not just thinking about, and this is what we do. So often as humans, we're like, oh, I understand what that means to be in a frequency. Don't understand it.

[00:35:24] Jaclyn Shaw: Come experience it. Yeah, I don't, I honestly, and I'm going to get a little sassy, you're like, I don't [00:35:30] care what you get at your mind. Like I don't care what you tell yourself. I care what you're experiencing in this lifetime. Let's move beyond knowing to experiencing. 

[00:35:40] Homaya: Yeah. You don't know what, what will happen?

[00:35:45] Homaya: What are the insights? What are the feelings? What are the places that are going to be wired?

[00:35:51] Homaya: What can happen in the system if you allow yourself to be for two days in a space that is [00:36:00] curated and designed for Paradise Consciousness? Yeah. Again, the goosebumps are back that like full. Just like in the beginning when you said like the gathering like just moved right through my being again.

[00:36:19] Homaya: And here's the thing, it's like the invitation is out there. The invitation is being extended.

[00:36:25] Homaya: Yeah. I am really looking forward to [00:36:30] see what will happen for us in Golden. Even more

[00:36:36] Homaya: what will happen in us through Golden

[00:36:43] Jaclyn Shaw: feel that.

[00:36:45] Jaclyn Shaw: I'm like the US is us collectively, us and the ripple beyond us.

[00:36:53] Jaclyn Shaw: Experiences like this, like the, and like experiences like this. Every time, [00:37:00] every single time I've been in a room. Like this. And not really like this 'cause I don't think anyone's really been in a room like this to be honest. But do you know what I mean? Like any time I've been in experiences in person, I could literally tell you each experience that even if there's like one thing that shifted for me, it's created massive transformation in my life

[00:37:24] Homaya: because it is without knowing. because It is from the [00:37:30] future, from the shapeless, from Freedom. 

[00:37:33] Homaya: Yeah. 

[00:37:34] Jaclyn Shaw: We're like no. Agendas attached. No human control is there.

[00:37:39] Homaya: Yeah. Human connection is there. Field of connectivity, 

[00:37:46] Jaclyn Shaw: connection, unity.

[00:37:49] Homaya: For me, the energy is so felt and so clear.

[00:37:55] Homaya: You have this stretch 

[00:37:57] Homaya: to open one topic that people keeps on [00:38:00] asking me, and I feel like. Something in the frequency now that really matches it. Let's do it. Many people are asking me, oh, are you 

[00:38:10] Homaya: going to do golden on the eight eight? It's about abundance.

[00:38:14] Homaya: And I say, we're not lacking abundance.

[00:38:18] Jaclyn Shaw: Or not, and I like anyone listening right now, if you take that to your head, there wants to be a fight to that if you let it drop in your [00:38:30] soul. For me, there's an absolute truth in your words, and knowing in your worth, in your words. We're not lacking abundance. We just may think that we are. We're not willing to see, to truly see.

[00:38:45] Jaclyn Shaw: We're not willing to see through the eyes of our soul. We're not willing to see beyond what we've experienced, what we see right now.

[00:38:54] Homaya: It was such a beautiful moment of silence in our conversation just few minutes ago, and it brought [00:39:00] me to this frequency of abundance. ' cause in that place of silence and in that place of ease and in that 

[00:39:06] Homaya: place of,

[00:39:08] Homaya: yeah, ease, IS not EASE. In that place of it is all here. I strongly perceive peace as a form of abundance. 

[00:39:25] Jaclyn Shaw: Absolutely.

[00:39:27] Jaclyn Shaw: I wanna say one of the biggest forms [00:39:30] of abundance, experiencing peace. What a gift, what a blessing.

[00:39:36] Homaya: So if we look at paradise as 

[00:39:39] Homaya: abundance, because I mean paradise

[00:39:48] Homaya: as a state of mind, right? Of abundance.

[00:39:53] Homaya: We see that this connection

[00:39:58] Homaya: and judging [00:40:00] something in that abundance, whether it is abundance of noise and abundance of silence, and abundance of luck, and abundance of money, or abundance of whatever, or abundance of you, 

[00:40:15] Homaya: any judgment of it. Takes away the abundance from you.

[00:40:21] Homaya: But it is so interesting. I really wonder those who are listening, if they took this [00:40:30] recording, how much energy shifted from where we 

[00:40:34] Homaya: started to where we are now? 

[00:40:37] Homaya: And, of course, we spoke. And of course we exchanged and we laughed and we connected and we brought memory and we projected to the future. And,

[00:40:47] Homaya: but what happened is a transformation of energy where we can even speak now about judging, but there's no judgment in the room. 

[00:40:58] Jaclyn Shaw: Yeah, [00:41:00] and I think this is where we underestimate ourselves as humans. We get into this idea. Things take time and things take this and whatever it is, and you've gotta do the mindset work or whatever story it is that you tell yourself.

[00:41:15] Jaclyn Shaw: Frequency shifts in an instant. Your life transforms in a moment when you become willing to see through a new lens, when you receive, through the transmission, when you allow it to [00:41:30] create transformation for you. But oftentimes, again, telling ourself this lie, this story of it takes more. I need to know more.

[00:41:39] Jaclyn Shaw: I need to do more. I need to, whatever it is. When we allow ourselves to deeply receive in experiences like this, coming into that communion, that connection to the God within us are all the answers lie. All already exist and all exists because you [00:42:00] exist.

[00:42:00] Jaclyn Shaw: You, me, as divine being you, me, us as the creators. Yeah. Creating in each moment. 

[00:42:10] Homaya: Oh, you exist. Abundance exists. You enter the room exists. You exist. God exists 

[00:42:17] Homaya: to that extent.

[00:42:18] Jaclyn Shaw: Absolutely.

[00:42:21] Homaya: I truly hope

[00:42:23] Homaya: there's like two strong feelings within me now. First that those who listen and [00:42:30] those who are

[00:42:31] Homaya: watching

[00:42:33] Homaya: and really feel the frequency that exists.

[00:42:37] Homaya: And the second deep wish is that they would lead with that frequency. They would lead themself with that frequency because 

[00:42:48] Homaya: as a spiritual light, as a spiritual guide, as a light leader, as a light activator, this is what we want. We want that people will come [00:43:00] to be in a presence with us because of the frequency that we're able to generate and that comes together with us being able to move because of frequency being generated, although there is no mental explanation to it. 

[00:43:20] Jaclyn Shaw: And of course you just said the word move because I've recently led. Two things within my business where [00:43:30] I was the invitation, like the strong invitation, the word was like the invitation to move and at whatever way you're feeling called to move.

[00:43:38] Jaclyn Shaw: To move. And one of the experiences I held the requirement to come into the room and to sit at the table and be part of the conversation was the willingness to move. If you felt that sacred, yes. That willingness and everything from that you have the financial means to move, that you have the ability like within your being to like say yes if you [00:44:00] feel the yes.

[00:44:01] Jaclyn Shaw: And it was fascinating. That I had conversations while I was live teaching a woman who they're like, yeah, I told you I was ready to move. And I'm like I'm just not, and I don't even know why. And I can't bring myself forward to move even when I feel the yes. And this right here, your ability, your willingness to move, like it's gotta be there.

[00:44:25] Jaclyn Shaw: You, you're ready to disrupt things. You're ready to create change. What? That's what you [00:44:30] what? That's what you are saying that you're ready for, if that's what you're truly ready for, if that's what you want, you've gotta be willing to move. When you feel those sacred pings, when you feel that yes frequency, if not, bring us right back to the beginning of this conversation.

[00:44:43] Jaclyn Shaw: You're in denial of your soul. You're in denial of who you are when you feel it, and don't move. I feel like I create so quickly in my life, in my business, because when I feel that call to move, I don't hesitate. I don't wait for permission. I don't wait for [00:45:00] it to make sense. I don't wait for whatever, most wait for, because for me, moving in the essence of my soul, like I just can't imagine not to be honest.

[00:45:12] Homaya: Yeah. But this is also because when you're moving the essence of your soul, you move in a quantum field. You don't move in a logic field. 

[00:45:21] Homaya: We wait, we go to our mind. We like try to figure it out. We want that logic to land and then move. That's not the way it works. [00:45:30] Move and invite God to respond.

[00:45:32] Homaya: Like set the stage, set the playground, like that's the co-creation frequency. 

[00:45:36] Homaya: I find myself saying again and again, in the last few months I would say. God, I am the ally of God.

[00:45:44] Jaclyn Shaw: Of course you are like, yes. Like I am the ally of God. Nothing else required. They're like, of course you are. I am. We are.

[00:45:55] Homaya: Yeah.

[00:45:57] Jaclyn Shaw: Walk. [00:46:00] Take. If it's a leap and it's a leap and it's a leap of faith. If it's a step like move, stop sitting still, stop sitting on the side of the road. Stop like being paralyzed in your own life with your own dreams, with your own vision.

[00:46:14] Homaya: Ah, move, like there's no one in the room because any case, there's no one in the room.

[00:46:20] Homaya: It's only you. 

[00:46:22] Jaclyn Shaw: We move and we create. 

[00:46:24] Homaya: I'm so grateful. I'm grateful to the path that I personally moved through [00:46:30]for really experimenting even more, putting to test even more. This trust the faith, whatever spiritual theory to whatever extent, even if they were real, I stretch them, and I'm grateful for your presence, and I'm grateful that I've done it with you so much.

[00:46:55] Jaclyn Shaw: Oh my gosh. I am so grateful for you. I'm so grateful for this conversation. I'm so [00:47:00] grateful for what we're about to experience at Golden Together. Us, you, me, collectively, those who come, those who are in attendance. So thank you for moving. Thank you for leading. Thank you for creating this gathering.

[00:47:15] Homaya: A big hug soon to you and to whomever going to be with us in person, 

[00:47:24] Jaclyn Shaw: whoever chooses to enter the room.

[00:47:27] Homaya: Thank you so [00:47:30] much.

[00:47:30] Jaclyn Shaw: I love you. Thank you.

[00:47:31] Homaya: I'm grateful.