Episode 11-Used to be Young

In this dynamic and introspective episode, join hosts Torrean, Mack, and Mondo as they embark on a candid journey through the multifaceted world of relationships, parenting, and personal growth. The episode unfolds with an engaging discussion on high school basketball experiences and swiftly transitions into a deep dive into the complex interplay between relationships and wealth. The hosts tackle the sensitive and thought-provoking Jonathan Majors case, shedding light on the nuances of public perception and the implications of exposing private conversations.

As the conversation progresses, the trio navigates the murky waters of shared romantic interests, setting the stage for exploring societal expectations and relationship behavior. The episode delves into the controversial and often misunderstood perceptions of sexual encounters, challenging listeners to reconsider their views on respect and consent in relationships.

The hosts then turn the spotlight onto themselves, revealing personal insights into the dynamics of being pursued versus being the pursuer. They reflect on the possibility of sexual relationships evolving into deeper connections and the critical importance of recognizing when someone special comes along.

In a poignant turn, the discussion shifts to heroism in relationships, particularly in the context of leaving toxic situations. The hosts delve into the role of the victim, emphasizing the necessity of courage, self-respect, and the transformative power of forgiveness.

Special attention is given to Mondo's advice as he embarks on a new chapter in his life, highlighting the significance of building relationships on a foundation of friendship. The conversation takes an intimate turn as Mondo shares his celibacy journey, sparking a debate on the challenges and rewards of finding the right partner.

The episode concludes with thoughtful closing remarks on the importance of being present in life and the joy of giving. "Used to Be Young" is more than just a podcast episode; it's a heartfelt, sometimes humorous, and always honest exploration of the trials and triumphs of modern adulthood. Join the conversation and join the "They Call Me Daddy" community.

Transcript

Torrean (00:01.025)
Yo, yo, what's good, y'all? Welcome to another episode of the They Call Me Daddy a parent's podcast Let me introduce my co-host. We got Mack and we got Mondo. I can't lay on my stomach, you know what I'm saying? My name is Torrean AKA Daddy. What's going on, y'all?

Mondo (00:14.561)
Hahahaha

Mondo (00:22.71)
Man, this dude, man, I can't with you. Let me just tell you, I cannot with you right now, bruh.

Mack P (00:23.1)
Oh no.

Mack P (00:29.502)
I don't know. What's going on with y'all though, man?

Torrean (00:33.566)
Alright, then.

Mondo (00:33.766)
Aw man, we missed you bro, we missed you man.

Mack P (00:36.426)
I know man, likewise, bruh. I be needing this, man. Like the first five minutes we start talking on here, bruh. I'm cracking up laughing, you know what I mean? I be needing it, bruh.

Mondo (00:43.894)
Yeah, man. And you get me on a podcast with this dude, Torrean, he gonna ask all the questions, fam. You know what I'm saying? People were like, hey, man, that boy, he put you on the spot, huh? And I was like, it's all good.

Mack P (00:56.878)
Yeah, he don't be caring too much. It's all good though.

Mondo (00:59.476)
Ahem.

Torrean (01:00.681)
You know, I gotta ask the right questions, you know, I mean, I'm, I'm a curious guy, you know, and so, you know, maybe it might be something you might not have thought about. So, you know.

Mondo (01:08.977)
Oh, you're right. You got them curveball questions, bro.

Torrean (01:12.397)
Yeah, so you care to elaborate on your nickname? Oh no, it's all good. It's all good.

Mondo (01:19.306)
That I just received. Yeah, you know, no, not right now. We'll save that for the end of the podcast. So you gotta stay tuned. You gotta stay tuned and know where this nickname came from. You gotta get to the end.

Mack P (01:22.094)
Hehehehe

Torrean (01:27.579)
Oh man.

Mack P (01:35.86)
Yes, sir.

Torrean (01:35.933)
Got you. Yeah, yes sir. But yeah, how y'all feeling, man? Let's check in, man. It's been a minute. You know, Mack, how you been, man?

Mack P (01:43.586)
Man, I'm good, bro. Holiday season, man, running around crazy sports. You know, I got a lot of shit on my mind, bro. Birthdays as well, man. Before we get started, I wanna say happy birthday to Mercedes, her birthday is Christmas Eve. You know, I love you, I'm proud of you, man. She's inspiring people along the way of her journey, bro, which is just beautiful to see and beautiful to watch, man. So I just wanna say happy early birthday to her.

But then yeah, man, just getting everything ready for the boys, bruh. I know we talked on the podcast previously about not letting the shit get to you, but that shit be getting to me, bruh. Like, you know what I mean? This one put a smile on everybody's faces, you know what I mean? But we do have a trip coming up, bruh, so I'm looking forward to that, man, just to get a break from everything, bruh. But I'm all right, man. I did go to the chiropractor for the first time, T. I talked to you on the way there, bruh. Life changing. Like, Bondo, you ever been in chiropractor?

Mondo (02:20.976)
Yeah.

Torrean (02:36.67)
Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

Mondo (02:40.715)
I have no-

Mack P (02:42.09)
Man, there's this guy right down the street from your pop script. Amazing, bro. So physically I'm feeling good. Mentally, you know, I'm at about 80%, but I'm all good, bro. Yeah.

Mondo (02:51.839)
Okay

Torrean (02:52.381)
That's what's up. Happy birthday, Sadie's. Happy birthday. Mac, I got a question, though. So little Mac, he had his first high school basketball game, right? How'd that go?

Mondo (02:54.986)
No doubt Sadie show up.

Mack P (03:04.667)
Yeah, it was cool. He, I could tell he was nervous. Like I be trying to tell him like, you know, preparation to get all those nerves off you man. It's just, it's preparing the right way. But you know, I'm still proud of him bro. He did his thing though, but he just, you know, was a little nervous and I could see it. The family showed up, you know, Mondo your pops showed up, Twon your dad showed up. I don't know if that makes him more nervous or not. Like, you know, some people.

I don't like all that attention. Max one of them kids that tried to stay in the shell a little bit, but he did all right. They got a dub, they won by like 30, so it was kind of hard to gauge, but yeah, it was good.

Torrean (03:41.213)
Yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, it's just basketball, right? And I think it's important to remember that it's just basketball. Yeah. What about you though, putting up shots of my dough? How you feeling?

Mack P (03:43.794)
That's it, let's go have fun, bro. Yeah, no pressure. Yeah.

Mondo (03:53.43)
I'm putting up shots, I swear. Don't it just feel like Torrean set me up? It just, look at his face.

Mack P (04:00.624)
Man, even on that, like, my dog would love to get you in a gym with the boys, bro. Like, you got the experience, bro. Like, you know?

Mondo (04:07.878)
Oh, for sure. I definitely go in the gym, man. Play a little, show them a little something. I'm down for that. I'm down for it. Man, actually it was this summer, randomly. I just went to, yeah, I went to, I was like, yo, Uncle Doug, you got a basketball? He was like, yeah, I went up to Dunning, did my Uncle Doug joint, you know what I'm saying? Just shopped for a little bit. So yeah.

Mack P (04:13.298)
Yeah, okay. That's good to know.

Torrean (04:14.653)
When's the last time you dribbled a ball, Mando?

Mack P (04:20.738)
For real?

Mack P (04:27.986)
Learn? Cause I know for a while, at one period, you was like, I'm not touching the basketball ever again.

Mondo (04:34.489)
I know, but Torrean keep referring to somebody shooting with me in the gym. And so, you know, it's cool T. Like, look, so yesterday we didn't do a podcast. So me and Torrean talked instead. And so when me and Torrean just talk, no filter even more so, like we just, we'd be going different places, saying different names. Like, and so yesterday I was talking about, you know, when you get wealth, right? And you're just like, yo, I wanna make sure that the person was shooting with me in the gym.

Mack P (04:39.37)
UGH

Mondo (05:02.101)
before the wealth comes. And so we were having a conversation around that. And yeah, man, it was interesting because like you two are in committed relationships. I am not, but was there ever a time where you're like, yo, I would feel a certain kind of way if I got bread first and then my supposed partner came thereafter, like how you know? How you know that they gonna like stick through the thing? And so we were talking about that last night. And

I think that might duck tail into what we talk about today a little bit too, but y'all got any opinions on that? Right, did y'all ever have that thought growing up? Like, man, I wanna have that perfect person by my side before any of the real bread shows up.

Torrean (05:46.069)
Thousand percent. Thousand percent, that was always something that was really important to me, you know, making a show, you know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna have none of these scandalous hoes out here, man, you know. For sure, that was always a thought of mine. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead, man.

Mack P (06:02.874)
I gotta watch my language, bro. But the ones that come after the bread, boy, they be looking nice, boy. Hey, so you'll take a solid seven that you can trust over a 10 that you might be a little skeptical about, right?

Mondo (06:17.898)
Literally, that's what we were talking about, right? Because we're like, yo, dudes, we'd be blaming it on, oh man, she's just coming with these assets. But it's like, we'd be looking for them assets, right? There'd be plenty of sevens that'd be like, I've been here, but for some reason, you know what I'm saying? We don't go for the sevens. And so who the hard hit, you know?

Mack P (06:41.639)
I seen that this guy was talking about NBA players. How after they get they bread, like how all the women that they deal with, like they all look the same. So, you know, I don't know. What about you T, how you feel about it?

Mondo (06:54.829)
I mean, I got friends, I got, I got an aunt, I got just certain women that I know that I'm friends with, right? Like it ain't no intimate stuff, but I'm like, yo, you cold blooded. It ain't even on some, I'm trying to get you for your money, but I'm just like the way that you show up and your care and kindness and love and goofy, quirky, whatever. I'm like, man, you got a gift to go hook.

whoever you want, right? And I just be hearing the stories of like dudes that be coming in and then dipping and then be like, nah, that wasn't him, but it's just easy work. And so I'm like, man, when you get some bread, there's plenty of women that's like, oh, Torrean? Oh, he's easy work. Yeah, I go put my hook in him real quick, right? It's so, man, it's, you know, you know, you know, he is single Torrean with bread.

Mack P (07:45.378)
Cause he's most Dev goings.

Torrean (07:49.307)
That ain't saying that about me.

Mondo (07:52.293)
Single touring with bread, you going, bruh. You going, you gonna hide it though, you gonna keep it a secret, but you going.

Mack P (07:54.843)
Yeah, for sure.

Torrean (08:00.317)
Nah, man, you know.

Mack P (08:01.857)
Yeah, but you gotta be careful because the Jonathan Major situation too though. You know what I mean? Like.

Mondo (08:07.521)
Oh yeah, that was a thing. Hey, shout out to Dante, my brother Dante. Oh, Dante was hot. How about that, man? He livid.

Torrean (08:15.193)
So it was my brother, Miles. Miles was crazy about that shit. Cause he been, Miles been sending me shit about this case for months and months. And he's like, man, I saw a bullshit, everything else. And the reason why Jonathan Majors decided to fight it was because it was bullshit. He's like, I wasn't even at the house. Like he got arrested for hitting her and doing all this shit with her cause she passed out on drugs in her, inside his house. And he wasn't even there at all while she was there.

Mack P (08:15.374)
Oh, he a big fan or what?

Mondo (08:23.053)
Hmm.

Torrean (08:45.217)
Um, you know, high as fuck, high as fuck, drunk as fuck. Yeah, like he wasn't even there. He was at a hotel and she had went out to the club and party and all this other shit and did all this other stuff and then came back to his house, called him like, I'm going to kill myself. I'm taking all these drugs, everything else passed out. And then that's when he called nine one one.

Mack P (08:47.591)
So was that the video when she was found in the closet?

Mmm.

Mack P (09:08.462)
Hmm, that's crazy. I did see that. I seen the video that altered the original altercation and he was like running from the girl. She trying to whip his ass, he running away. I'm like, damn.

Mondo (09:09.693)
Yeah, I went up on the story, so I don't know.

Torrean (09:12.329)
Nah, I like that.

Torrean (09:21.141)
Yeah, man, you know, Kuntah was running and motherfucking still got, still got slashed. Like that's some bullshit.

Mack P (09:28.862)
It's them boots. Hey, y'all quit wearing them big ass boots. You always look guilty and then you got some big ass boots on and a long coat. You better cut that out.

Mondo (09:30.669)
Hehehe

Mondo (09:40.129)
Hey, Max sound like somebody's grandpa, bro. Like, oh bro, you better just take them boots off. That's it. Hehehe.

Mack P (09:48.994)
Hey, you paid bro. You don't need to look like no construction worker, bro. Take them boots off my guy.

Torrean (09:56.824)
That shit's funny.

Mondo (09:56.985)
Hey, of all the things you can say to solve the problem, this dude is like, just take the boots off, bruh. This, this, this.

Mack P (10:02.718)
Nah, cause when they went to that, when they showed the video, when they went to the closet to get the girl off the ground, he had another pair of boots placed real nicely in the background of the video and I seen her boots somewhere. Aw shit. They about to get his ass.

Mondo (10:16.493)
80? These boots just turned into the OJ gloves, bro. Like, man.

Mack P (10:23.96)
straight up

Torrean (10:25.609)
It's funny you said that, that's the first thing I thought about was the OJ gloves. I'm like, man, these is new boots now. So, um.

Mondo (10:30.811)
Oh, man.

Mack P (10:30.862)
Yo, don't be waiting. No, hey, black fellas, no red wing boots.

Mondo (10:37.47)
Oh man, that's funny.

Torrean (10:39.245)
Nah, but he did, I think his attire too at the courthouse, like I was watching him, and he just looked like one of them, you know, the way a black person looks in movies, you know, in the 1930s or whatever. That nigga came in looking poor as hell, like he ain't got a dollar, and I'm just like, man, come on, bro, like you should have had a fresh cut, you know, I mean, I don't know, I mean, it's.

Mondo (10:52.205)
Thanks for watching!

Torrean (11:02.245)
It's America. That was his response. It's America. He a black man in America, white woman said he did some shit and boom, he's guilty. And so it's bullshit, man. Like, you know, but y'all talking about me going, man. Like I remember, you know, I was like, I think 19 or whatever, had my own crib. And, you know, we were at my house and my friend or my roommate at the time, he had.

Mondo (11:09.216)
Hmm.

Torrean (11:26.117)
his girlfriend over and she had a friend over and they were drinking whatever and I wasn't on none of that shit. And you know, she got naked and I'm in my room and she come in my room and come in my bed naked. Boy, when I got up out the bed, boy, I'm like, I am not. No, you ain't finna get me. Like my mom put me on game and that shit way too young, man. I had to get up out that, I had to get up out of that place, man. Like.

Mm-mm.

Mondo (11:55.963)
So you were just too desirable, huh?

Torrean (11:58.437)
I mean, I don't know why she climbed in. I mean, she climbed in, you know, daddy was there. But my whole point, you know, my whole point was as though, man, I ain't, ain't setting me up, man.

Mondo (12:02.339)
I was, I was, I was late. I was waiting for this.

Mack P (12:09.098)
All right, keep it a bug though. Well, one to 10, she was about a four then.

Torrean (12:14.965)
No, she's not. No, I ain't saying she was a 10, but at the at the time she was a good seven and a half eight like for real. Like nah, you even I think you've seen her before. But anyway.

Mack P (12:18.531)
You ain't climbing out on no 10, bruh, ayy.

Mondo (12:21.835)
I mean...

Mack P (12:26.242)
5.

Mondo (12:30.705)
Hey, now we gonna, after this is over, we gonna be like, who was it, T? Yeah, okay. Did she think she was a five or a seven or she thinks she was a 10?

Torrean (12:34.361)
Nah, it's cool, I'll show you. But, yeah, but nah, I'll show you. But nah, she thought she was a 10. Everywhere you went, dudes liked her and shit like that. We revisited the situation a couple years later or whatever. But, you know.

Mondo (12:52.317)
Hold on, hold on, hold on, clarify. You revisited like you did it again? Like you went in there naked the next time? Oh, okay, okay. Okay.

Torrean (12:58.474)
Nah, hell nah. Nah, but yeah.

Mack P (13:03.147)
like y'all spoke on it.

Torrean (13:06.129)
We revisited the situation, bro. Like, what the fuck you mean, man? You know?

Mondo (13:08.232)
I'm sorry.

Mack P (13:10.571)
Just asking, bruh.

Mondo (13:12.337)
Hey, you know, these cryptic messages, we revisited it, you know what I'm saying?

Mack P (13:14.746)
I know. Yeah, it's all good.

Mondo (13:20.694)
Okay, all right, all right, see?

Torrean (13:22.421)
Anyway, but my whole point is man like you got to be smart You know, you got to be smart out here. You can't be getting caught up in the situations if it's too good to be true It's too good to be true. So

Mondo (13:34.017)
All right, let me ask a question real quick. Was there a third time?

Torrean (13:40.337)
Um...

Mondo (13:45.03)
Nope.

Torrean (13:45.697)
Wanted I don't remember actually I'm being real

Mondo (13:48.497)
Then there was no third time, if it wasn't good enough. So she was a five, man. Yeah. She didn't. Yeah.

Torrean (13:52.721)
No, no, no. Alright. Alright, I'm gonna let you...

Mack P (13:53.258)
Yeah, I already know. I already know. She was either she was a five, she stunk or she has some dirty ass feet. One of those three. Ha ha ha.

Mondo (14:02.375)
laughter

Torrean (14:06.54)
It was none of those. I don't know why y'all try to go in on me. You know, it's all good though. It's all good. Don't make, yeah, speaking of being smart, don't make me revisit some of y'all bitches and start going in, because I will.

Mondo (14:11.224)
Oh, man. That's funny.

Mack P (14:14.722)
But speaking of being smart, I think this is a good segue into, you know.

Mondo (14:27.165)
Hey, you see how T got all defensive, you know what I'm saying? He be ready. Also, I don't use the B words, so I ain't never mess with one.

Torrean (14:29.346)
Nah, cause I tried. Yeah, man.

Mack P (14:29.366)
Yeah, he stay with clips and maybe he'd be ready to.

Torrean (14:34.981)
trying to do me man like you know

It's all good. It's all good, but you did mess with some dragons, bro.

Mondo (14:41.421)
I'm sorry.

Mondo (14:46.205)
Some dragons, dragons is 10, ain't they? I'm just playing, we ain't even going there.

Torrean (14:54.297)
Anyway, nah, but yeah, good segue to what Mac, what you done mo.

Mondo (14:55.135)
Yeah

Mack P (15:02.012)
AE man Anthony.

Torrean (15:05.173)
Anthony Edwards, man, that dude. First of all, you couldn't have picked a better one because that chick is talking about some dragon. That bitch is busted. Excuse my language, but yes.

Mack P (15:17.066)
Mondo, are you aware?

Mondo (15:19.125)
I mean, I have passive information, so give me the high level T just for the audience. I have not.

Torrean (15:22.93)
You see what she looks like?

It should look like a balloon.

Mondo (15:28.988)
A balloon?

Torrean (15:31.806)
Look like that. You know, she look like one of them balloon animals. So I think I had told you I was a come with a prop. My prop was going to be a balloon animal. And that's what she looked like, bro. Like she looked like a.

Mondo (15:40.169)
Uh, but I need to see her cause we know Torrean's eyes, bro. Torrean can't see, man.

Torrean (15:43.509)
Alright, Max you don't look like no balloon at him.

Mack P (15:48.602)
I'm not, I'm not gonna call out.

Torrean (15:48.637)
Like a clown, a bird? Go ahead.

Mack P (15:54.039)
Man, break it down for Mondo, man.

Mondo (15:55.082)
Hehehe

Torrean (15:57.114)
I'm about to send Mondo this picture real quick. Hold on. But anyway, the situation basically is, yeah Mondo, I'm sending it to you on IG. So, or I can't even.

Mondo (15:58.465)
Hmm.

Mondo (16:08.246)
Man, it's tight. I don't have IG on my phone. Don't worry about it

Torrean (16:11.65)
Okay

Mondo (16:15.317)
Go for it, you know, see no IG, cause you don't even want nobody sliding into my inboxes. You know what I'm saying? I'm just out here chilling.

Torrean (16:24.581)
All right, we over here capping right now. But anyway. But yeah, back to what I was saying. So basically, Anthony Edwards had, you know, relations with a with a. With an Instagram model, and she started posting, I think his actual girlfriend posted that she was pregnant, which there's a story behind his actual girlfriend as well. But.

Mondo (16:26.113)
Ha ha ha!

Mack P (16:26.934)
Hehehehe

Mondo (16:29.794)
Ehhhhhh...

Torrean (16:50.589)
She posted she was pregnant and then this chick decided she was gonna share messages. And the messages was, you know, basically like Anthony Edwards telling her she's gotta have an abortion, basically. And paid her $100,000 to take some pills and he wanted, he sent her the pills. And the famous quote of the whole conversation was,

Send a video like send a video of you taking these pills. And she's talking about what she had an abortion two years ago and she regrets it. And he basically said, like, yo, fam, send the video, it's not my problem. So, you know, paid her 100 grand to get an abortion. And I don't know, you see her.

Mondo (17:36.789)
I saw her.

Torrean (17:38.549)
What do you think she looks like?

Mondo (17:40.081)
I mean, Balloon Animal was not, was not what came to mind.

Torrean (17:43.577)
Balloon animal exactly what I thought about. Okay. Well, you need to see more pictures. But anyway He could have he could have picked up he could have picked a better word but yeah, man

Mondo (17:50.46)
Oh man, I still said Balloon-a.

Mondo (17:55.305)
I mean, it don't sound like he wanted her to be his wife. So like, you know, she just climbed in the bed with him. You know what I'm saying? That happens in life, I guess. Yes.

Mack P (18:07.58)
Yeah

Torrean (18:07.774)
It do happen, it do happen man. It happened to me, you know what I'm saying?

Mondo (18:11.493)
So is she a seven and a half, eight? Yeah.

Torrean (18:15.081)
Who is this chick? I mean, she just not my type, man. Like, I'm not, yeah, I'm not big into the whole, all the fake shit. You know, I like me a real woman. I want a natural woman. I want no fake shit. If you look like, you know, I got BBL and all that bullshit, you can lose me with it. It ain't doing nothing. It ain't doing nothing for me. Yeah, cause this is all fake shit, but.

Mondo (18:19.169)
Oh, okay.

Mondo (18:24.033)
Got it.

Mondo (18:34.885)
God, that's why you said balloon animal. So I don't be knowing how your mind works, bro. When you say balloon animal, I ain't get it. But all right.

Mack P (18:45.794)
But I need to know, is she out of pocket for releasing those messages and all of that? How do y'all feel about it?

Torrean (18:53.417)
So hell yeah, like in my opinion, yeah. Like for me, I think it's against her brand. So, you know, a lot of them women, they run in the same NBA circle. So, I mean, I'm sure she's gonna find another dummy that's gonna take her upon her offer and do whatever. But they got, they're so young, they got so much bread that, you know, they get bored, man. Like, and shit.

So, but I don't think you should expose. I don't think you should expose it. Like you shouldn't expose your dealings with it. Like what do you gain out of that? Were you just trying to get some more money? Yeah, go ahead.

Mondo (19:18.729)
All right, hold on, hold on, let me ask a question.

Mondo (19:25.949)
So hold on, hold on, hold on. I need some clarity. So what's the woman we were talking about with the other NBA player a few podcasts ago when she was recording their interaction about OnlyFans? Who was that? So we got the Joe Smith situation. They're an item, they're a couple. And then we got the, and we got the Will and Jada. And y'all were like, yo, like women shouldn't be doing that because like they exposing their husbands or their partners.

Torrean (19:38.882)
Uh, Joe Smith?

Torrean (19:43.997)
I'm Amanda Smith.

Mack P (19:46.062)
Hehehe

Mondo (19:54.705)
and like there's some disrespect there. This sounds like a side chick. And so we saying side chicks got rules to not disrespect the person the same as if they're married. Is that what I'm hearing?

Mack P (20:08.606)
If I give you a hundred K.

Mondo (20:11.55)
Pfft!

Mack P (20:14.083)
Keep it zip, bruh. Like, you know what I mean?

Torrean (20:15.552)
If I give you, Mac said if I give you 100K, shut your ass up all day, you know what I'm saying?

Mondo (20:15.719)
Eugh.

Mack P (20:20.386)
Yeah, pretty much, bruh. I mean, not every, she probably wasn't even a side chick, bruh, she was probably just a Wednesday night, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. And what, and I don't think it's right, man, for these women, like, yeah, she's trying to make him look bad and dog him, right? But at the same time, like, you trying to use a baby as a, for a come up too.

Mondo (20:20.548)
Uhhh...

Mondo (20:31.253)
So that's okay go for it. My bad

Mack P (20:44.394)
Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm sure she don't have deep feelings for him. She just like, hey, I'm gonna need these bills paid. I need this house. You know what I mean? So.

Mondo (20:52.429)
All right, so look, so this is a good conversation. I think me and Turing were having this conversation. We were having this conversation at the Davidson house the other day. So imagine going to like a magic show, right? And you got like a David Blaine and he do something new. You like, that's some new magic. I've never seen that before. Mind blown, didn't even know that was possible. Cats that be going smashing chicks like that, it ain't no new magic trick, fam. They doesn't seem the same.

trick happen over and over and over. So whose fault is it? Like, you can't be like, man, she bogus for that. Like, Fam knew the ring that he was stepping into. So how can we be mad at her behavior that could have been potentially predicted?

Mack P (21:41.484)
I don't disagree with that though. All right.

Torrean (21:43.749)
Yeah, I mean, I'm not I personally, I'm even mad at her. Like, I just think it was against her brain. That's what I said. I don't think it's against her brain to. Yeah. No, because.

Mondo (21:50.009)
Tori in business, business by the way. Hey Tori, like I'll be your manager fam, I got you. Right, right. The balloon squad, you know what I'm saying?

Mack P (21:55.236)
Hey, all you IG models contact Tori, you know what I'm saying?

Mack P (22:06.1)
You always wanted to be a pimp.

Torrean (22:07.925)
Nah, y'all, y'all try to get me in trouble, man. Nah, don't contact me. I'm not gonna respond, but I'm not gonna respond. But yeah, my whole point is the fact that, you know, she clearly wanted a paycheck, in my opinion. Like in my opinion, she wanted that paycheck and she's like, oh, so we can't.

you know, in the Texas, like, you know, bring up the abortion part, like, oh, he's going to maybe up his amount. That's how I kind of feel. Like, I feel like it was a strategic thing. Like you want me to up my amount? Cause to me, if it's something this serious, and you pregnant and all that shit, why y'all ain't talking on the phone? That's weird to me. And I mean, but maybe the new generation is just like, yo, we just text about everything. I don't know, but that's weird. Like it's a motherfucking baby. So it's like, clearly you got your incentives. Clearly you got your receipts.

everything else and you were just holding this over and she probably hit Anna up again like yo nigga if you don't give me another 100k or 500k or a million I'm gonna expose these texts and it's just a black male gay man so like I just feel like man as young black males man you know y'all gotta move smarter I mean but maybe I don't care maybe y'all NBA niggas is like man I got I'm getting paid bank.

Mack P (23:26.305)
Yeah, boo.

Torrean (23:26.757)
20, 30, 40 million for three years, and then I'm about to go cash in for 300 million. So what's 100K? And to me, I'm not a tricker. I ain't tricking, but that's just me.

Mack P (23:38.411)
So us being men, like...

Us being men, bro, like, have y'all ever been into that? Like, and I don't mean no homo stuff, but it's like these NBA players, like they be sharing the same women sometimes at the same time. Like, have y'all ever been into that? It's me neither, bro. I don't understand it. Like the dude, I can't remember the player's name. He plays for the Pacers now, but allegedly him and all his teammates was messing with the same chick.

Mondo (23:42.92)
Thank you.

Mondo (23:58.601)
No.

Mack P (24:11.394)
and she ended up pregnant and it ended up being his. Like, of course she kept it. Of course she kept it. Bro, I couldn't even look that little dude in the eyes, bro. You know what I mean? But like, what is that with these young men with money, bro? Like they can't, like what is that?

Mondo (24:21.086)
Psst.

Torrean (24:29.225)
Because you need something to do. Like, they can't go to the mall. They go to the mall, they're getting harassed. You know, they can play video games, but how long that gonna last? So you need something to do. And it's like, yo, apparently like there's a whole circle. You know, like you said, there's a circle of, I mean, if you're in that circle, you getting smashed. Like, Rashad McCance just said that on a different podcast talking about when he played for the Timberwolves, all the players were smashing Dwayne Casey, their head coach, his wife.

And yeah, yeah. He's like, I played with Paul Pierce or something. I think it was Paul Pierce and he's like, who wanna suck this 20, you know, who wanna fuck this $20 million dick? And Chase just responded to that shit, so, you know? I mean, they on a different level. I mean, and I ain't, they on a different level, you know? I'm just saying like, be smart, don't be, you know, don't get caught up for the rest of your life on some shit.

Mack P (25:00.826)
What?

Mondo (25:15.489)
Meh.

Torrean (25:28.809)
You know, and that's all I'm saying. Just be smart. You know, do your thing. We was all young at one point in time. So do your thing. You know what I'm saying? Nah, hell nah.

Mack P (25:36.718)
We wasn't sharing though, bruh. Yeah, I don't understand it.

Mondo (25:39.181)
Straight up. I remember there was one story when I was in high school. Yeah, I was with a couple of the homies and they met this chick at a gas station. And, one of the, oh man, it was the essay slash Speedway over by Hancock by Hamlin. This is.

Mack P (25:54.206)
I don't know what gas agent was it, bro.

Mack P (26:03.394)
Can't get no girl from SA bro. Gotta be a holiday or something else, bruh. There's levels.

Torrean (26:07.281)
You know, and another thing is never, you know, never get a check from Walmart either, bro. Like straight up.

Mondo (26:17.617)
You just disrespected a whole bunch of women that shop at Walmart, bruh.

Torrean (26:21.861)
Maybe. Maybe, but yeah. I'm just saying, not saying if they shop at Walmart. What I'm saying is, if they're in Walmart and they come and hit on you, mm-mm.

Mondo (26:34.717)
You might, you might miss the one, bro. What you mean? Cause if she had Walmart, that means she is frugal.

Torrean (26:37.53)
That's cool. That's hot.

Torrean (26:43.965)
That's cool. All right, man, I'ma say this, I got the one. You know what I'm talking about, so anyway. You know. Yeah, we go to Walmart, you know? But I'm just saying I ain't meet her at Walmart. That's my point. Like, that's all I'm saying. I ain't meet her at Walmart.

Mondo (26:45.895)
She got to be at Target, bro. What's up, man?

Mack P (26:48.167)
Right.

Mack P (26:51.925)
Okay, okay, okay.

Mondo (26:52.581)
Yeah, I-I-

Mack P (26:55.554)
There she go to Walmart.

Mack P (26:59.451)
Alright.

Okay.

Mondo (27:04.619)
Hey, T out here having people block their blessings. Like, oh man, T told me, you at Walmart, fam. It's like, we in the same aisle, buying the same diapers. What you mean?

Mack P (27:07.66)
You know.

Mack P (27:13.6)
Yeah.

Mondo (27:16.617)
But no, I'll just lean into Mac's story, yo. Like we go to SA, Speedway, they meet this chick, and then next thing, you know, I'm chilling in the car, I think, and they're like, hey bro, we about to get to this hotel. I'm like, what? And so, you know, they on it. Anyways, long story short, there was two chicks. One of them though was like, nah, I ain't going, right? She got dropped off. So we get to this hotel.

One of the homies goes in there. I'm out texting on the phone or whatever. And he come out and another homie goes in there. And he come out and they like, I'm like, hell no. First of all, first of all, y'all just met her at the gas station. Second of all, you think I'm going in there after you too, nigga? Bro, come on, bro. Ain't no way, ain't no way. So now I'm good.

Mack P (28:00.789)
Hey!

Mack P (28:09.028)
That is crazy.

Mondo (28:14.506)
I'm good.

Mack P (28:15.595)
Nah, I'm with you, bro.

Torrean (28:15.929)
Yeah, I seen this tweet yesterday that said like, yo, if you run a train, or if you're a woman and you let two dudes run a train on you, you just had sex with two gay men.

Mondo (28:31.969)
So I mean, I don't know about that, but I know to just based on my makeup, like how I just operate, I don't wanna be in a room messing with a chick and see another dude's dick, period. Like nothing about that just works for me. So I can't do it, fam.

Torrean (28:32.88)
What's your thoughts on that?

Torrean (28:50.865)
Yeah, I don't understand that shit either, bro. You all, you know, stay out of your, stay out the room, like, you know, but at the same time, like, I don't, even if I'm not going after nobody, that's just, yeah.

Mondo (28:54.133)
Yeah, they don't even work.

Mack P (28:56.418)
So the every.

Mondo (29:06.861)
But there's also an argument where people are like, yo, if you wrapping it up, it ain't real, right? So, so.

Mack P (29:14.806)
What you mean?

Torrean (29:14.845)
We all, so we all, you never learned that from the wise man? The wise man, the wise man, oh yeah, the wise man, the wise man, this is the wise man told me, the wise man said, T, our nephew, you know, if you're using the condom, you ain't fucking her, you're fucking the rubber.

Mondo (29:19.661)
I'm sorry.

Mack P (29:21.437)
No, no...

Torrean (29:42.309)
And so one day I said that to the wise man's brother, right? And I'm like, oh, the wise man told me and I'm having sex with a rubber on, I'm not fucking the girl, I'm fucking the rubber. And the wise man's brother said, well, look at how many kids he got. I'm not trying to have that many kids.

Mack P (30:05.014)
But like, getting the access is just as valuable as the actual act itself, right? Like, just knowing she like, hey, I want you. You know what I mean?

Torrean (30:06.634)
So.

Mondo (30:15.665)
So there's some value in that, but the wise man also believes that if he gets all the way to the moment where he knows he can get it, he don't need it no more. He just like, oh, I just wanna see if I can get here. So TXT, yeah, yeah.

Mack P (30:27.982)
In fact, you reach a certain point when you get older, that's that older wisdom, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, for sure. What's up T? Why you, yeah, he looked away. Will he break eye contact?

Torrean (30:28.649)
there.

Torrean (30:39.065)
No, I mean, I'm like, I'm with the wise man. You know, the wise man said, I'm with the wise man. So I feel the same way, you know what I'm saying? That's why, you know, I didn't need to go through with things on that night, you know what I'm saying? Because boom, I knew it was Gucci, right?

Mondo (30:40.845)
You

Mack P (30:56.415)
So your girl slide, she slide and she like, oh, but we use the rubber, it's all good. You can be like, all right, cool.

Mondo (31:03.779)
Because he was fucking a condom.

Mack P (31:05.847)
Right.

Torrean (31:07.534)
I'm not understanding.

Mack P (31:09.474)
So if your girl decided to go out, mess with another dude, and she come home, and you like, where you been? She like, why not? They use the rubber.

Torrean (31:16.323)
Ah hell nah.

Torrean (31:20.021)
It ain't happening. Not, not in my house, I hope, but. That shit ain't flying over here. Like, yo, you can go do your thing. But that ain't flying over here. You ain't gonna see my ass no more.

Mondo (31:20.609)
She was just like, I was just getting a rubber massage. You know what I'm saying? It's just.

Mack P (31:25.454)
I'm sorry.

Mondo (31:29.389)
Hehehehehehehehe

Mondo (31:36.873)
I about to say, but you definitely ain't gonna be that calm with it.

Mack P (31:39.67)
Hell nah.

Torrean (31:40.613)
No, I'm definitely not gonna be that calm with it, but I'm just saying like, the wise man said that. So, all the bodies that people think they got out here, they might not have no bodies. That's what I'm saying. Like, do y'all agree with that or disagree? Is the wise man right or is the wise man wrong?

Mack P (32:01.23)
I gotta disagree with the wise man on this one. Hey, you know it. You know it.

Torrean (32:03.89)
And I know Amanda gonna say, both are right, right? Look, in his head, he's thinking like, how do I make it so both are right?

Mondo (32:08.326)
Yo, yo, straight up, straight up. Cause to Max point, right? If I'm like, oh yeah, without a comment, it ain't nothing, then I am saying that, oh, well, if you want to go get that rubber, that Trojan massage, go for it. And that like, that ain't flying either. And so, yeah, they both right, bro. They both right.

Torrean (32:36.009)
But okay, so we're talking about, you know, obviously coming at, you know, women with the Anthony Edwards situation and everything else, but like, what are your opinions on, you know, when you first meet somebody and how they approach you? And like, does that say everything? Does that, you know, basically, if they came on some respectful type shit and just kind of wanted to get to know you and it was conversation, everything else, do you respect that person more than this person that was just like, yo.

Let's just get after it.

Mondo (33:09.521)
Well, if it's a, if it's a, let's just get after it. I do respect that, but I also respect what it is. All right. It's a, let's get after it. Probably in my contacts, it says, let's get after it. You know what I'm saying? And so later on, if she thinks her name needs to be changed, cause she's like, oh, well, how do I text myself? And I'm like, oh, you got to type in, let's get after it. You know, and that becomes a problem. Then like.

Mack P (33:26.638)
Thank you.

Mondo (33:39.185)
yo, the situation just changed. Like, well, that's how we started it. And so I found in my journey, Old Mondo, we went through this Polly New Mondo, Old Mondo. So in the Old Mondo season, right, there was a whole bunch of, we made some agreements to start and then down the line, you know, the other party was influenced to change the agreements, or at least try to change the agreements. And so, you know, if you come in quaint and chill and just wanna talk and I wanna say play video games, but I don't play video games like that.

Like, cool, like that's where we're starting. If it grows from there, cool. But if you just on some like, yo, this is where I'm at in my life. I remember a gal pulled me from the gas station. I was like, what is this? And so, I've been on both sides, but like she was straight, she was a hunter. She was like, this is what it is until this day. And I was like, all right, bet. And I respected it and never seen her again after that day.

BLEH

Mack P (34:40.015)
Damn word. So do you like when women are more aggressive or you prefer to be the chaser?

Mondo (34:45.589)
Ah, it depends, man. It depends. I mean, yeah. Yeah, it also depends on.

Mack P (34:48.638)
on what she looked like or.

Mondo (34:56.477)
Yeah, if it's too easy. So here's the thing, right? I would say that 95% of every intimate relationship that I've had has been an introduction or somebody within a community group. So we got sources, you know what I'm saying? Like, hey Mac, hey T, like, ah, like, give me something. And so because of that, you know.

Mack P (35:20.881)
Mm-hmm.

Mondo (35:23.985)
It's like, oh, I'll chase that because that seems valuable enough to chase or court. But, but if she just going, going out the blue, I probably don't even want it. If I'm being a hunter.

Mack P (35:28.235)
Yeah.

Mack P (35:34.062)
Okay, what about you T?

Torrean (35:36.325)
Oh yeah, coming after me, you know what I'm saying? You know, I am an attraction. Like I told y'all earlier, like, you know, uh-uh. Because that was a trap, bro. That's the point, that's the difference. I'm not stupid. No, I'm saying like she was, but she was also like hammered, like hammered, hammered. And it was just to the point where it was just like, yo, so hammered, like, I mean, she-

Mack P (35:38.422)
Okay

Mondo (35:42.753)
So then why you turn down who slid in the bed? She came all the way.

Mondo (35:50.844)
Okay.

Mack P (35:51.736)
for your bread? Like what you, like.

Torrean (36:04.261)
you know, it was hammered. So I was like, yo, I'm not even gonna.

Mack P (36:07.946)
You going on your Bill Cosby that, don't you?

Mack P (36:12.686)
Don't touch.

I feel it. You gotta be careful nowadays, bruh.

Mondo (36:17.535)
Okay.

Torrean (36:20.321)
I mean, that's a long time ago, obviously, but yeah, man, it was just like it just felt like a trap so but you know, come you know come after me like you know That's how I feel. I don't know. What about you Mac like? You know

Mack P (36:36.404)
Ummm... I don't know.

I'm like Mondo, like every situation I've been in, we knew somebody, like we had somebody in common. So that's typically how it is, bro. I don't think I've ever had too many females like roll up on me, like, hey, you know what I'm saying? That should have been weird. I'd be like, she probably do this shit every day. So like, you know what I mean?

Mondo (36:56.473)
It is weird, bro.

Torrean (36:59.493)
I mean, I don't know. I don't think so, but you know, maybe that's just, you know, the difference between.

Mack P (37:03.178)
You don't. So a girl pull up, she pull up on you in a club, let me buy you a drink. You know what I'm saying? And she's giving you all them, you know, aggressive men type vibes, you know what I mean? You're gonna be like, oh, okay. You're gonna be all flattered, like, oh, thank you.

Mondo (37:15.466)
I'm not gonna do that.

Torrean (37:18.653)
I mean, I'll be like, like what's going on here? You know what I'm saying? But I'm not gonna say like, nah, I'm straight. I'm gonna turn it down. Like, who gonna do that shit, man?

Mondo (37:28.333)
You go, uh...

Mack P (37:28.879)
It depends on if she's a one through 10.

Torrean (37:30.313)
But at the same time, but it depends too though. I had, it had like, like some like, you know, lesbian type looking chicks come at, you know, like, Hey, you know, we buy you, you know, I'm like, nah fam. Like, I'm good. Like if your voice did put in mine, I'm straight. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'll keep it up.

Mondo (37:48.973)
I'm trying to figure out how you became the attractive one. Like, which is... You know what I'm saying? Okay.

Torrean (37:55.532)
All right, man. I'm trying to tell you. I been trying to tell you all niggas this shit. You know what I'm saying? No.

Mondo (38:01.213)
Man, so look if somebody did come by to drink though, right and you feeling there 15 minutes later, you're gonna be like you buying some appetizers, too You don't let her keep going. Are you buying appetizers?

Torrean (38:10.906)
Nah.

Nah, I mean, we probably just ended. I mean, I am in a relationship now, so that ain't gonna happen. But we talking about back then, I mean, I go with the flow type dude, but I can't answer that. Man, you know what, I'm even thinking about no appetizers, probably, I already ate before I got to that motherfucker, so.

Mondo (38:18.469)
Oh, right,

Mack P (38:31.139)
So let's say you out, you know what I'm saying, you out and you roll up on a chick, right? And I mean, you're the single one and you know, she bad whatever you interested, whatever conversation going well. And then she pulls out on you like, oh, I do have somebody that I'm with right now. Does that stop you?

Mondo (38:49.089)
Dang, this dude, Mac. So like, the, no, the, when the woman pulled up on me at the gas station way, way back, she was married, but her husband was in the military off of forever. And she was just like, yo, he been gone for however long, this what I need you about that life? I was like, could be.

Mack P (38:51.986)
I'm as curious.

Mack P (39:18.542)
Mondo's out of control. There's one thing to mess with a merry nigga girl, but in the military, nah.

Mondo (39:19.405)
Eugh. Hahahaha.

Torrean (39:21.806)
Yeah, auto page.

Torrean (39:27.065)
Yeah, I'm gonna say all the patriots finna come out their Mondo now. Like, hey, you on.

Mondo (39:31.374)
Yeah, man. But that was the hard line, though. She was like, when, you know, a few days before he was supposed to get back, she was just like, I'll never see you again. And I'd never seen her again. That's it.

Mack P (39:40.558)
That's crazy.

Torrean (39:40.697)
Until now. Until she slides into them DMs.

Mondo (39:45.005)
Did they call me Daddy DM? Nah, I'm good. I'm good. Ha ha ha.

Torrean (39:47.366)
Yo, Armando, I am the one.

Mack P (39:52.534)
Mr. Bigs R. Kelly T. as Bondo.

Mack P (39:58.37)
Contagious boy.

Mondo (40:00.813)
Yeah, man, I want no smoke. Cause now, no, like now, new mondo, right? Talk about old mondo, new mondo. Like I made some agreements. Like I had never messed with a married woman again. Cause I was like, yo, I've disrupted some marriages along the way and I don't need that to circle back on me. So I've been very cautious of that. Like actually not even cautious. I've been running away from it. And so I don't even want there to be an accidental slip up, whatever, even like.

Mack P (40:09.666)
Hmm.

Mack P (40:23.352)
Hmm.

Mondo (40:29.073)
my friends and like they're women or girls, I don't even talk to them. Like fam, man, I don't want you to think, you looking at mine the wrong way or you think he looking at you or we got into a beef and I'm about to text my, no, no thank you. No, I don't want none of that smoke.

Mack P (40:33.195)
Hmm.

Mack P (40:40.566)
Alright.

Mack P (40:49.23)
Did that ever happen to you?

Torrean (40:50.649)
So call you Jonathan Majors?

Mondo (40:50.87)
Yes!

Mack P (40:53.483)
Somebody, hold on, somebody's dude hit you up before?

Mondo (40:57.329)
No, no, no. Oh, hold on. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was a husband hit me up before. Yeah, that was way back.

Mack P (40:58.741)
Oh.

Torrean (41:01.956)
Mm-hmm. Couple times.

Mack P (41:02.807)
Where?

Mack P (41:06.866)
Oh, Mando a wild boy.

Torrean (41:10.033)
Ay, I remember at the house, at the house. We ain't gotta talk about the house.

Mack P (41:12.051)
What you doing in my wife phone?

Mondo (41:14.76)
yes the house I'm messing nobody was married at the house

Torrean (41:19.514)
Nah, but dude did hit you up though.

Mondo (41:23.093)
Dude hit me up, who hit me up back then? I don't remember, but probably like the house. Look, first of all, for anybody that don't know, the Richfield house was a frat house without being a frat house fam. Yes, yo, four or five days a week there was a party. Non-stop, and so yeah, there is, I feel like everybody in St. Paul, Minneapolis that.

Mack P (41:36.458)
Richfield University. Yes, sir. Great. All the time.

Mondo (41:50.981)
Messed in this circle, stopped at that house one day or another. And what were we there for, like six months?

Mack P (41:57.419)
That was it?

Torrean (41:58.093)
Yeah, there's only six months.

Mack P (42:00.714)
Man, that was a great six months, bruh. I'll tell you that.

Torrean (42:03.161)
Yeah, I think I went through about 25,000 in six months. And mine don't match me, but it was fun. We gonna do a whole ass podcast about that damn place one day.

Mondo (42:12.622)
Yeah, that was that was peak gambling season, peak everything.

Mack P (42:18.802)
I told you, we gotta do that, bruh. Richfield University had everybody, you know, call in, pull up or something, bruh. Cause everybody got some story to tell about that crib, man.

Mondo (42:24.705)
Right, yeah.

Torrean (42:31.293)
but uh, but yeah, so I think.

Mondo (42:32.366)
So the Batcave, you know what I'm saying, where everybody had to hide out.

Mack P (42:35.786)
Bruh, that was one of the coldest, bruh that was cold. That was cold.

Mondo (42:41.156)
We gonna save that for Richfield University. Yo, that, all right.

Mack P (42:43.932)
Ehh...

Torrean (42:45.849)
But I think my point, my question, my whole point behind the question I asked, which I know for listeners, we probably forgot by now because we talked about a lot. And I kind of did too. But was just the way that, you know, women present themselves in like, we talk about, you know, what it's what it is. So like, you know, there's sometimes there's an arrangement, but can that arrangement, you know, let's just say they're like, yo, I just want it to be a sexual relationship. Can that ever turn into more in your eyes? Or like, is that some

Oftentimes I feel like, and the reason I'm bringing it up is I feel like women will come with just the sexual piece thinking that's gonna land them a man, right? And like it don't, like it's just like, yo, you were a buzz down and I'm always gonna look at you like that, right? And, you know, so I guess that's the question.

Mack P (43:37.646)
So you're saying can you start off as just being sexual with somebody and then eventually it end up being more.

Is that what you're saying?

Torrean (43:49.349)
Yeah, I mean like, we're talking about the Anthony Edwards situation and it's like, yo, like that's that chick, that situation, like let's say she actually did have feelings for him and felt hurt by something in some way, shape or form. It's kind of like, I feel like, you know, I used this yesterday, mind, though, so I'm gonna lean into it, but I feel like, you know, people say money doesn't grow on trees, right? But I say ass and titties do.

Mondo (43:51.902)
Okay, what if...

Torrean (44:18.641)
Right, like as the titties grow on trees, there's always, you know, there's always gonna be another female that's gonna come and present themselves to you in some way, shape or form. And they're just gonna continue to continue to continue. So you gotta bring something else. Like everybody got the ass, everybody got the titties, or I can go find that or whatever the case is.

But I'm saying like, and if it's just like an arrangement where you're just like, yo, we just going to get a pop and we're young, we're having fun. Cool. Whatever. Right. But if you think that's going to land you a man that you really want, especially somebody that's like, you know, got money or, you know, that's doing something with themselves or, you know, has aspirations or dreams. Why are you fooling yourself? Like, you might as well just keep it to that arrangement and don't think that's going to turn into something else because more than likely it ain't. So that's why I'm bringing it up.

Mondo (45:10.085)
I mean, I think we got to be wise on both sides, right? Like if you're the baddie and you just stumbled upon a new multimillionaire, 26, seven, eight year old in the NBA, thinking that he just got that bread after hustling his whole life to get to that spot, to have that fame and fortune, can't wait to settle down and get married, like the likelihood of that happening is very slim.

Right? If he was already on that, he, he'd have stepped into the league with that person. And so it sounds to me like both parties are trying to not see the reality that's presented to them. Like the woman's like, Oh yeah, I can go convince him that I'm the one. Right. And then the other dude with the money is just like, yo, I know she ain't the one, but I'm going to go mess with her anyways. And she might even start to feel like it, but I'm going to do it anyways. And so like everybody acting like a fool.

And so, and I don't even say fool like dumb. I'm saying a fool as in you just setting yourself up for the L, right? It's just what we do. And then we learn from it or we don't and we do it again. And then we do it again and again and again until we learn from it. But, you know, I think some people, myself included for a while, right? Like I liked the rotation. I liked the new challenge, new person, the new whatever. I liked it until I didn't.

I was just like, oh, this is a dope game. And then eventually I was just like, I keep winning this game. This, you know, the game is no longer challenging. And so, you know, and you find a new game. Man, me and Torrean talked about tattoo, man. Like marriage is such a strong word, fam.

Mack P (46:43.53)
So now you think about marriage, huh?

Torrean (46:51.318)
You know, see the glow in that niggas eyes right now?

Mondo (46:53.482)
Look, marriage is a strong word, but a commitment.

Mack P (46:56.381)
It is.

Mack P (47:00.406)
I was gonna say, but we'll say commitment then.

Mondo (47:02.901)
You know what I'm saying? Even one of the terms I said recently was a forever fiance, right? I'm like, I might make that term trend. You know what I'm saying? Wait, you know? Yeah. Oh, man. But no, like YouTube brothers, right? Like found a partner and you're just like, yo, this is where I'm at. We a unit, we family, we doing all this stuff. And so.

Mack P (47:13.138)
I've been on that, no, just wait. I'm just playing.

Mondo (47:29.445)
is very forever fiance type energy. What happens between being a forever fiance and being married, walking down the aisle? I don't know, right? But I think where we sit, we're like, man, that's just a celebration, but it's still the same behavior.

Mack P (47:46.958)
Only that and that contract, bruh. You don't need it. You know what I mean? We chilling, we good where we at. Yeah.

Mondo (47:50.246)
Mmm.

Mondo (47:54.453)
That's dope. Bye bye.

Torrean (47:56.777)
But no, but I think, but that's what I'm saying. Like, so like, okay, Mondo, you can answer this or even Mac, I'm curious too. Like, you know, you and Sadie's been, been together for, for my fucking ever. But it's just like, how did you know? Like that was gonna be the person that you was gonna be like, man, I'm gonna chill with her. I like her or like she's different than others or whatever. And I think that's kind of my point is like, you gotta bring something to the table. So, you know.

like Mondo, you can even talk about it or Mac or both. We ought to answer this question. But like what, what is that? What did that difference look like? Like what was the difference between them and you know, past ones?

Mondo (48:39.305)
Yo, straight up for me, the women that, I would say stood the test of time for me, even just as like a friend after the intimacy stopped, all those women was rocking with me when I was broke. Like, man, like I'll be going through some roller coasters, right, just like, yo, as an entrepreneur, like there's high seasons, low seasons, whatever. And I feel like...

for somehow, some way, God be sending me at an amazing woman in a season when I'm low. And it's just like, oh, yo, if you're willing to be with me in this season, then like, even if we don't stay together, like you're part of my friend circle. And so for me, that's been the difference.

Torrean (49:27.133)
So to piggyback off that Mondo, my question though is, is like you don't value money like you used to, right? Like you've been public about that in a lot of your videos and everything else. And obviously we talk about it. So do you feel like, you know, having that, what's it called? The,

when you have the arrangement before the marriage, what's it called? A prenup show agreement. Like, do you feel like that's something that still would need to be in place? Or do you feel like it's still like, yo, I don't want somebody that is with me because of who I'm going to be or what I'm going to inspire to be or the money I'm going to have. Like, do you feel like that has less weight now because you don't really value money like you used to?

Mondo (49:49.655)
Yeah.

Mondo (50:11.301)
Yeah, I mean, I say I'm not tripping off of a prenup the way that I used to, but it's not cause I value money less. It's more just like my relationship with a guy is a little different. And so if we go into a situation and that person's like, yo, I ain't even really tripping about money like that. And if we ever did get together and make a bunch of money, here's what I would need to be good. And if I'm like, oh, that's it.

Cool, that's the agreement that we're making. And then if we got married with no prenup and later on, yo, she tried to hit me for 20 times the amount of what she just said. I'm like, yo, just a reminder, remember what you said in 2017, right? God heard you, you know what I'm saying? And so you be a greedy. And so I just let that happen. Like, you know, that's just gonna do what it does.

Torrean (51:03.241)
But I mean, what if they were like, yo, you're right hand behind all that money. Like, they were there, supported you, went above and beyond, like your wildest dreams, and helped you achieve the success. And you're like, yo, without this person, I couldn't do it. We always hear that famous speech, right? Without this person, I couldn't do that. I couldn't achieve this, right? And you say that, and then a year later, you're getting divorced. Are they still, you feel like they still need to be?

Mondo (51:22.861)
Yeah.

Torrean (51:32.229)
You know, at that at that number, that figure they had in 2017, although it was 2027 and y'all achieved or later on and y'all achieved all this shit and you're like, yo, without you, I never would have had this.

Mondo (51:45.805)
Yeah, so first of all, there is something valuable about a partner, but without you, I wouldn't have got this, ain't a statement that's coming out of my mouth. I value what you brought to this table, but you saying that I would not have gotten here without you, ain't it? That's just not an agreement I'm making. No, no, that might work for them.

Torrean (52:09.219)
Okay, so whenever you hear them speeches you like you capping fam or you just like you are yeah

Mondo (52:14.893)
But for me, it's just like, yo, like, oh, if you need more bread, cool. Like, let's, you know, you didn't know we were gonna do it this way. Like, I'm free flowing with the money. But I'm never gonna be like, I could not have gotten here without you. Like, I would've got here. It might've took way longer for me to get here. It might've been extremely harder for me to get here, but I was still gonna get here. So, that's just where I'm at, bruh.

Straight up, you helped me put on them boots. You know what I'm saying? Look, no, no, like people that support that are in my corner, like, you know, you're gonna be loved, you're gonna be taken care of and all this stuff, but yeah, I'm never gonna be on some, I couldn't have done this without you. Like, that's just, that just ain't where I'm at, yo.

Torrean (52:45.112)
Alright.

Mack P (52:45.514)
You helped!

Mack P (52:52.501)
leave the boots on the shelf but you help

Torrean (53:14.461)
Alright, Mac, so when did you know Sadie's was like, you know, the one or different in, in everybody else and, you know, are you like my dog where, you know, she gets credit, but, you know, without you, you know, I still would have did it, you know.

Mack P (53:22.338)
So I think it's.

Mack P (53:32.734)
What's a team effort? So everybody got to bring something to the table. So I kind of agree. I see what Mondo's saying. You know what I mean? Cause like, whatever. But the thing for Sadie's was she always held me accountable. You know what I mean? Like it wasn't like, when you ask, if you can start off like, we start off as friends, like good friends first. So we knew one another and all that, like.

So when you ask if you can start off just having sex and then eventually end up being together, I don't think you can because you ain't set no boundaries or no foundation. Why you just allow him to do what he wants so you ain't gonna get his full attention to where Sadie's like, when I start talking to Sadie, she's like, hey, you can cut them other bitches off. It's gotta be me and you. So I kind of respect that. A person that respects themselves enough to be like, nigga, you ain't gonna be dealing with me and all these other females. So like.

that's attracted to me and that's something I appreciate about her, she has self-respect, you know what I mean? And you know, that helps for sure. But, aside of that, like, she was just always a good person, bro. Like when I needed to be uplifted or something, bro, she was always there, you know what I mean? And even if I was doing some low down shit or some shit, like she never like gave up on me, you know what I'm saying? My low moments, she always was there. So, so yeah, she been holding me down for a minute.

Mondo (54:53.069)
So I got a question after we or you did some goofy stuff, just whatever goofy is to you, did you feel like you had to forgive yourself for the behavior or it's just like, I just needed to get her to forgive me.

Mondo (55:15.885)
I ain't for the people that ain't Mac froze for a second, but it was the tech. Oh, it's all good. It just wasn't meant to be then.

Mack P (55:19.374)
Oh, yeah, I didn't hear your question.

Mack P (55:27.018)
No, no, yeah, ask it.

Torrean (55:27.81)
No, ask it, ask it.

Mondo (55:28.973)
So the question is, when we do something foolish, or when you have done something foolish historically in your relationship, do you feel like you had to forgive yourself after it, after you did the thing, or was the only objective for you to do whatever you had to do for her to forgive you?

Mack P (55:52.148)
It was...

Mack P (55:55.886)
Um, one, if she forgives me, then that love, she really cares about me. And do I really want to continue to hurt the person that one person that I know genuinely cares about me? You know what I'm saying? Even if, even if I'm hurting her, she still continues to care for me. So it's like, I'm kind of a selfless person, right? So I'm like, all right, man, like I can't keep doing this to her because I know she really cares about me. So it was more of that. Like, did I forgive myself?

Mondo (56:13.837)
Mm.

Mack P (56:26.358)
Nah bro, I don't, you know what I mean? It was more so her. I care about the people around me more than I think or care about myself sometimes, so.

Mondo (56:28.237)
That's cool. That's fair.

Mondo (56:33.133)
Oh, one more question on top of that. Are we, are we, do we believe, or do we agree or disagree that one of the greatest selfless things we can do is actually leave the person? Do you agree with that? If you hurt them, hurt them, hurt them, like to actually leave them, is that a selfless act?

Mack P (56:35.383)
Yeah.

Mack P (56:56.51)
If I'm not willing to do the work to change myself, then yeah, you gotta dip. Otherwise, you know what I'm saying, if you ain't gonna do the work or be disciplined enough to like, all right, man, let me calm down, then yeah, you gotta dip. Otherwise, you just gonna bring this person to the ground. But like me, I ain't wanna live that way. I wanted a family. I wanted to do the right thing. You know what I mean? I wanted that structure. So if I'm gonna do the work and be disciplined, then you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna have to buckle down and get cussed out every once in a while.

Mondo (57:25.293)
That's fair, yeah, that's rude.

Mack P (57:26.715)
Yeah

Torrean (57:27.657)
Yeah, but I think, you know, when you say selfless, like is that a selfless thing to do? Like, yo nigga, you done put this person through some real trauma. Don't act like you a motherfucking superhero. Like you're doing them a favor. Like, yo, you're selfless, but you need to do, you need to let them go for yourself, like for yourself to heal too. You know, like, you don't, you can't just put people through toxic shit, Hawaiian and all that shit. And then,

Be like, oh, they didn't forgive me. They forgave me like 10 times. Well, I'm going to leave them for the better of them. Like, sure. But it's also for yourself to be like, man, I lost this person that, you know, undyingly showed me this loyalty for X amount of years and I'm going to lose them. I'm going to leave them alone so I can heal too. And I think there's got to be a piece of that too. Like, you ain't no superhero for leaving. Like, you don't get no kudos. You don't get no kudos. You were the toxicity in that person's life.

Mondo (58:16.557)
Why not?

Mondo (58:24.269)
D- Nah.

Torrean (58:24.413)
Like, like, yeah, why should you be a hero? You ain't no hero.

Mondo (58:28.205)
Nah, I'm always the hero. In my story, I'm always the hero. And so, yeah, even if I do some stuff that is not okay, right, like.

Torrean (58:34.361)
Mm-hmm. Okay.

Mack P (58:42.914)
But let's say it's not Chudo. Like look outside of yourself. Let's say like.

Torrean (58:45.505)
Yeah, and I want to talk about you. I'm just talking in general, but like, you know, I'm just talking in general, but I don't think like you deserve, like whoever that person is, deserves any kudos for, I finally gonna let them go. Like, cool, but you also need to look in the mirror for him. Like.

Mondo (58:48.429)
Yeah.

Mondo (58:57.933)
I think so. Cause I...

Mondo (59:05.485)
So then I would flip it though. And I would say there are millions and millions and millions and millions of people that are in relationships that are toxic and neither party is leaving. And they are accepting this thing that doesn't feel good. The person that leaves that relationship to me is the hero for both of them. Like.

Even, it doesn't even matter who was doing the things wrong. Like the person who leaves, because they're like, yo, this ain't it. Like that person is a hero, fam. Like to say that the courage to leave comfort, like that is a bold, heroic act. And so like, yeah, like I think that person is a hero. Like even if it's the person who the negative things are happening to, like for them to leave.

Mack P (59:53.87)
Mm.

Mondo (01:00:00.781)
Like, yo, they're the hero of that story. Or if it's the person that was doing the trauma, right? For them to be like, dang, man, like I done did this too many times, I need to leave. Like they are also the hero because the...

Torrean (01:00:12.107)
So they can't be the villain who finally gets it conscious. That can't be them.

Mondo (01:00:16.621)
Well, when the villain turns to the other side, they become the hero. Like the...

Torrean (01:00:21.273)
Nah, fam. They just the villain that finally did one thing right. Ain't no hero. Ain't no hero about that shit.

Mondo (01:00:27.373)
Why not? Ah, nah, that's whack. That's saying that a person can't change.

Torrean (01:00:32.933)
No, they did change, right? But I'm saying they ain't changed because you do one good thing. Don't mean you're the hero right away. Like, you know what I'm saying? You do a million bad things. I'm gonna do one thing that's good and now all of a sudden all forgiven, like, or now I'm the hero? No, it's...

Mondo (01:00:38.925)
Why not?

Mondo (01:00:46.413)
Exactly. Ain't that the Christian way? Ain't that the Christian way? I did a whole bunch of stuff. I asked for forgiveness and I'm like, moving forward, I'm going to do things different.

Torrean (01:00:55.637)
Yeah, and let that goodness stack up. Not just one action. Like nigga, you did one good thing for the rest, you did one good thing. Good job, good job. Do more good things. Like it's consistency. That's how everything is. That's how life is, right?

Mondo (01:00:58.189)
Why does it have to stack up?

Mondo (01:01:09.197)
Why does it have to stack up? When you ask for forgiveness though, isn't it washed? Isn't the slate clean? If the slate is clean after you ask for forgiveness, if you do the one good act, that means you are one of one.

Torrean (01:01:23.357)
Right. And then, and then the following act you mess up and then you ask for forgiveness again. And then the slate is wiped clean again. Then you, you fuck up again. Then boom, boom. Then we talk about toxic, right? We talk about toxicity. That's exactly how toxic relationships work.

Mondo (01:01:35.725)
Yep.

Mondo (01:01:44.941)
but he left the relationship or she left the relationship. That's what I'm saying, leaving the.

Torrean (01:01:47.957)
Cool, now go work on yourself. Go work on yourself so you can be better. So you can get rid of the toxicity. If that's why you left, but that don't mean you the hero. That's all I'm saying.

Mondo (01:01:59.853)
Nah, straight up, you the hero. If you left, you the hero. If you asked for forgiveness and left, you the hero.

Torrean (01:02:03.529)
We had, we had this agreement, man. But who y'all think, man? Who y'all think? Audience, comment below, comment on YouTube, or who's the hero in the situation? Cause I think,

Mondo (01:02:16.397)
Now, one of the reasons why that this topic is real important, I know we're arguing about heroism, right? But I feel like in relationships, when your other partner says that they forgive you, but the slate ain't actually clean, right? Like it's still like just fizzling there in the background. And whenever the next thing comes up, it's like, well, I didn't actually really forgive you way back then. And so what I'm saying is when a person truly in their self, like it's like, yo,

Please forgive me for the million actions that I did before that. I'm gonna leave this relationship now. This is my first good act. They don't have to do a million things to make up for the million things that they did wrong. Like that's their reset moment, right? Like that is the thing that I feel like we keep missing. That like when somebody is actually making a conscious choice to try to change, like that's heroic. That's dope.

Torrean (01:03:10.237)
But I guess my point is not saying that they got to do a million things to make up for it. My point is saying that have your good actions, like have momentum to them. Let the good actions continue to build. Because if they don't build, if you ask for forgiveness, ask for the slate to be wiped clean, and then you go and mess up two hours later, then you're like, whoa, okay.

Mondo (01:03:33.485)
How can you mess up two hours later? You left a relationship.

Torrean (01:03:37.157)
I'm saying that even I'm saying if even if they haven't messed up the relationship or if you go and find another victim and then you do the same shit to them to, you know, a month later and it's the same shit. That's all I'm saying is, is like, you know, there's a difference between like people say I forgive, but I don't forget. Right. But there's a difference between forgiving somebody because they messed up and they really did learn that lesson or they really did deserve to be forgiven.

Mondo (01:03:45.293)
I got you.

Torrean (01:04:02.781)
versus somebody that just asking for forgiveness to continue to pray on people. And I think that's what I'm saying. Like if you're gonna continue, yeah.

Mondo (01:04:10.637)
So let me ask a question. The person who continues to forgive in the relationship with the person that continues to do the not so good behavior, is the person that stays in that relationship accepting it, are they the victim?

Mondo (01:04:29.741)
Like I'm gonna sit in this relationship. I know this person is gonna continue to do these things to hurt me, but I'm going to stay here and accept it. Are they the victim?

Torrean (01:04:39.473)
I mean, I don't know victim is the right word, but I think like, you know, I mean, it's like one of those things where, yeah, I think it's one of them things where, you know, you do something to me once, shame on me, you do something to me twice, shame on you, or whatever that phase is, shame on you for doing something to me once, shame on me for doing something, or whatever that shit is. You know, you know me, but my analogies, they be all fucked up, but anyway. But whatever that saying is, I think that-

Mack P (01:04:44.109)
That's a deep question right there.

Mondo (01:04:58.509)
Yeah!

Torrean (01:05:05.093)
You know, like, why do you keep letting this person walk all over you? And I think that's something that is very key in it as well. But I don't know. I don't know. Victim is the right word. Like.

Mondo (01:05:11.469)
So, so are they a victim?

Mack P (01:05:17.282)
I mean, it gets tough though. Cause if you know that the person you're with isn't mentally strong and you continue to do it because you're aware of that, then I don't know, bruh. You know what I mean? Like, like she, let's, oh go ahead. I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking from like abusive baby dad perspective, like, oh yeah, she got all my kids. This bitch can't go nowhere. She stuck here with my kids. I'm gonna keep doing me. And it is what it is. I mean, some, in some sorts that is kind of, she's being a victim.

Mondo (01:05:28.589)
That's something, reason why, go ahead, go ahead.

Mack P (01:05:47.662)
You know what I'm saying? But she has to do, the person will have to do the work to, you know, I see what you're saying. You know what I mean? It's tough.

Mondo (01:05:52.525)
So like the person that's the victim when they leave, right? Like, is that not a heroic act? Are they then the hero? But then if they go into another relationship and they stay and they accept the same thing again, does that just make them a victim again? Right, like if the behavior, if the behavior is the same fam, like come on now. Like.

Mack P (01:06:12.179)
I call it stupid.

You

Torrean (01:06:17.537)
No, but I think it comes down to, you know, it comes down to courage. It comes down to, you know, self-awareness, self-respect. I mean, there's plenty of situations where people are in abusive relationships that, you know, we can sit here and be like, are you the victim and analyze their shit? But we don't know the pain they're going through and we don't know, you know, the circumstances. They could just be in that situation because they have nowhere else to go. They don't have that family, don't have that rock. They may have lost all their self-confidence or be the.

or be depressed or whatever the case may be. And so like it's, you know, to label them the victim and like, you know, look at 2023, like, you know, somebody say, oh, you're playing the victim. Like now it's a funny thing, but like, you know, that's some real shit. Like if a nigga is coming home and beating your ass every fucking day or whatever the case is, it may not be as easy as just leaving for some people, man. Like they really might feel stuck. They might not have that support that they need to leave or they might have tried to leave and end up.

I'm fucking roll right back up. Like, you know, I actually, yeah. And so.

Mondo (01:07:19.821)
I get you. All those nuances are important. But does that make that part, are they the victim then? And do they need to be saved by another hero is kind of where I'm going. You either continue to stay the victim or you're asking for somebody else to save you.

Torrean (01:07:24.149)
It's-

Torrean (01:07:35.881)
Yeah, I mean, I just think we're I think the conversation has gone far from the original question, you know, the original state which we were talking about was just like, you know, the person that leaves the relationship of, you know, more so cheating that person that was always cheating if I'm gonna leave them is that a selfless act? I think that's a lot different than what we talk about right now. But

Mondo (01:07:56.077)
All right, let me say one more thing about it though, because the point that I was trying to like really like bring to the forefront was, if everybody chooses to believe that they are the hero in the story, then you not the victim, right? Despite what side of the coin that you're on, like I say I'm the hero.

because I'm never going to not be the hero. And so you have a daughter, you have a son, you have whatever, it's just like, yo, you are always the hero of your story, even when you're down and out, even when you're struggling, even when nobody has your back, you are still the hero. It is within your power to save yourself. And so like, yo, no matter who you are, where you're at, what the circumstances are, like be a hero fam.

Mack P (01:08:40.618)
For sure, for sure. It's a mentality thing for sure, Mondo. I like that.

Torrean (01:08:41.705)
No, no. So I did want to, Mac. No, for sure. I like that. I like what you just said there too, Mondo. Mac, I do have a question, though, for you. So for a guy like Mondo, right? Old Mondo versus new Mondo. Mondo saying, hey, you know, maybe marriage or the long term commitment is something that he would consider now, right? What would be your advice?

Like, what would be your advice to Mondo?

Mondo (01:09:10.156)
That's good.

Mack P (01:09:18.718)
As far as Okay Yeah, that's a loaded one bruh is

Mondo (01:09:20.845)
Whoo, that's loaded. That's loaded.

Torrean (01:09:22.217)
Uh-oh, yeah, yeah. Ooh, it's time to bench press a little bit, you know, do some pushups, but yeah, go ahead, Mike.

Mondo (01:09:28.205)
Okay, that's good.

Mack P (01:09:30.55)
Well, my first question would be, is there somebody in mind that you would be willing to take that journey with?

Mondo (01:09:36.013)
this dude, Mac, wanna just not answer the question.

Torrean (01:09:38.711)
As Mondo's attorney, we are not gonna, we're gonna play the fifth on that answer right now.

Mack P (01:09:42.265)
I don't know, I'll... BAM! Nah, for sure, that's the same as question though.

Mondo (01:09:44.653)
Mac froze. Oh, it froze for a second again, Mac.

Mack P (01:09:51.686)
It is a meteor that or you can

Mondo (01:09:54.189)
Yeah, every time we ask Mac a question, you know what I'm saying? It frees it. It, it, it, it. It, it, it. So to answer your, to answer your question.

Mack P (01:09:57.186)
Quit asking me that bullshit, bruh. Don't be asking me that bullshit. Hey, you asking me. Oh, go ahead.

Torrean (01:10:00.757)
Thanks for watching!

Torrean (01:10:05.253)
No, but I do want you to answer the question though. Like you said, is there somebody in mind that Mondo has in mind, right? And I said, as his attorney, we're gonna plead the fifth on that. So we're not gonna fully commit to that right now, but.

Mondo (01:10:18.701)
Yeah, let's just say that I'm open. I just feel like the next season in my life needs to look sound and feel different, right? Do something different than old Mondo. And so am I open to having a partner if that person shows up and is right, for sure.

Mack P (01:10:18.919)
Yeah.

Mack P (01:10:34.11)
Yeah, but see, like, man, that's a tough question, T. Cause like you asking me, like we were friends for two years, like really good friends. And then we build off that. I think that's the correct way to go. Like, so for Armando, like if he were to find somebody new, then you don't, it's nothing you rush into. It's like build that foundation, that friendship first, so that you guys actually know each other. Like, hey.

Mondo (01:10:46.445)
Mmm.

Mondo (01:10:58.125)
That's dope.

Mack P (01:10:59.018)
Yeah, so I think always that friendship foundation is the most important thing to start off with, bruh. You know what I mean?

Mondo (01:11:04.877)
See, that's why it's right there. See, those bars.

Torrean (01:11:08.687)
Yeah, that's a great answer. So start friendship first. So does that mean that Mondo and his celibacy needs to last for another two years?

Mondo (01:11:17.165)
Nah. Heh heh. Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.

Mack P (01:11:18.162)
Hell nah. Nah, bruh, cause then you go, hey, nah. Bruh, hey, I commend you for that, bruh. There's nothing I could never do, bruh.

Mondo (01:11:23.565)
I'm sorry.

Torrean (01:11:28.377)
What about his semen retention?

Mondo (01:11:32.205)
Hey man, man. I'm trying to be disciplined out here. I'm trying to be a good friend to folks, you know?

Mack P (01:11:32.222)
Nope.

Mack P (01:11:37.678)
Man, what? Hey, he gonna sleep for a week when he release, boy. Yo, he's gonna be outta commission. Straight up.

Mondo (01:11:47.245)
Hey, that is funny, man. I mean, I guess that brings us full circle to you. What was the nickname?

Torrean (01:11:56.546)
You can't sleep on your, you can't lay on your stomach.

Mondo (01:11:58.637)
Oh yeah, man. So we talk. So look, look for the people listening, yo, before we came on this podcast, cause Mack didn't know about the seamen rotation and the abstinence or whatever, right? And I was, he was just like, man, what's, how does that work? I'm like, bro, I just be horny all the time, fam. So this food back is like, bro, you can't lay on your stomach, fam. I like, well, I can't do nothing. But yeah, man, it's discipline, I guess.

Mack P (01:12:00.274)
Hey, get your shit, get sensitive, boy. Hey.

Torrean (01:12:02.613)
..

Mack P (01:12:27.801)
So how long you plan on going?

Mondo (01:12:30.509)
I don't know, man. I don't even got an answer. And that's probably one of the things that like is confusing even to myself. Like I don't.

Mack P (01:12:38.157)
Damn.

Mondo (01:12:39.213)
I don't know. But I do feel like it stopped me from doing some foolish stuff already. Because I'm on this track of like, yo, I'm trying this thing, first retention, then abstaining, and then it's like, well, if I get to a point to where I actually wanna mess with somebody, they can't be no seven and a half. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I definitely ain't gonna give this up for a seven and a half, cause man, nah.

Mack P (01:13:03.146)
Why not?

Mondo (01:13:07.341)
Nah, it's gotta be worth me stopping this track that I ain't never been on before.

Torrean (01:13:12.597)
You want me to have Anthony Edwards hit you up, Mondo?

Mondo (01:13:16.333)
Nah, nah, nah, I'm good, I'm good.

Torrean (01:13:18.76)
Okay

Mack P (01:13:19.278)
Tori, do you think you could ever partake in something like that?

Torrean (01:13:22.725)
See, you gotta listen to the last episode, man. You know we talked about that last episode, bruh. So.

Mondo (01:13:26.925)
Yeah, Torrean. Torrean was on a whole streak, bro. He got me faded.

Mack P (01:13:27.671)
I'll check it out.

Mack P (01:13:31.694)
Okay, okay, okay. All right.

Torrean (01:13:32.921)
Yeah, no, it was a while, you know, but it happened because I heard somebody. So I heard somebody and then I was like, I'm gonna shut it down for a little bit. So.

Mack P (01:13:40.622)
Hmm.

Mondo (01:13:45.517)
He say he gonna shut it down like it's a nuclear fusion reactor or something like. He say, I had to shut it down. Hey, hey Tori like, yo, you know, there am I. Let me not go there. All right, cool. Hey, so what, all right, so then after, all right. So after you turned it back on, did you sleep for two weeks?

Torrean (01:13:49.325)
Well, no, the same way with you, bruh. Like, you gotta shut it down, you know?

Mack P (01:13:50.414)
I'm sorry.

Torrean (01:14:02.653)
You know, you gotta set it down, bruh, you know? But, y-

Torrean (01:14:14.649)
I don't remember man. I don't think so. I don't think so. Like, I mean, I had a long time ago, so you know, I don't think so. But, um, that's a very, that's actually fucking hilarious.

Mondo (01:14:22.093)
Yeah. All right. Hey, well, do you remember after you turned it back on, was it about 42 seconds? Hey, where? Did that? Yeah.

Torrean (01:14:32.985)
It didn't work. Yeah, it worked.

Mack P (01:14:33.006)
I was about to say that boy lasted like 13 seconds, bruh. Max. So you gonna go fire to 10, you gonna get 13 seconds. She gonna be like, hmm, I've been waiting for you, honey. Like, yeah, bruh.

Mondo (01:14:41.965)
Yeah, you know what I'm saying? But you should be good to just go back to back after that, right? Like, I don't know. It's like being a kid again. Oh, historically I couldn't either. Yeah, I used to call it a sitcom. I'm like, yeah, I need a whole sitcom in between. We gotta go watch something. You know what I'm saying?

Mack P (01:14:52.146)
Aw, that's a whole different conversation, but that's something I can't do, bruh. What? I need about 30, 40.

Mack P (01:15:03.822)
Straight up, yeah. Oh, but now you just be good to go, huh? You energize a bunny? Oh.

Mondo (01:15:08.429)
No, no, I don't know. No, after not releasing for so long, maybe it might be like I'm 12 years old again, just ready like all the time.

Mack P (01:15:20.696)
The nigga walking around with his pants moving.

Mondo (01:15:21.709)
Oh, man.

Mack P (01:15:27.403)
So good.

Torrean (01:15:29.443)
You gonna let the audience know? Like, you know.

Mondo (01:15:32.749)
Owen?

Torrean (01:15:33.973)
Yeah, like, you know, is it gonna be a...

Mondo (01:15:36.621)
I can commit to that. I can commit to telling that story as long as, you know.

Torrean (01:15:40.853)
Is there gonna be a celebration party or something? You know.

Mondo (01:15:43.629)
Oh, for sure, for sure. It'll be a celebration. Yeah.

Torrean (01:15:48.097)
All right, so ladies, hit Mondo up. You know what I'm saying? Hit Mondo up. You know, bring your A game. Bring your A game, spit fire at him. Buy him them appetizers he was talking about earlier in the podcast, you know.

Mondo (01:15:50.477)
Look, this dude ain't trying to, he ain't trying to help at all.

Mondo (01:16:02.189)
This is where Torrean is setting me up.

Mack P (01:16:02.433)
same.

Mondo (01:16:12.109)
Look, this is why T is setting me up, because if I ain't going, they're gonna be like, oh, so I'm a seven? See? See what I'm saying? See what I'm saying, T setting me up. So, nah, don't even have to go in the inbox, you know? I'll find you.

Mack P (01:16:12.202)
He gonna be straight, he gonna be straight volcano.

Torrean (01:16:29.146)
That is actually really good though. So you could be that beater. So yeah, if you think you a 10 hit Mondo up, right? Like.

Mondo (01:16:35.373)
All right, you about to have this podcast on a hundred. Oh man, that's good. That's funny. Well, I'll send them to my council. I'll be like, hey council, what y'all think? And look, I'm gonna be like, hey, they put in. You know what I'm saying? They put a number on y'all too.

Mack P (01:16:38.562)
Yeah

Torrean (01:16:45.417)
But yeah, man.

Torrean (01:17:02.105)
Yeah, I'm staying out of it, bruh. I don't want nothing to do with it. Nothing to do with it, I really.

Mondo (01:17:03.981)
Oh, come on, man. Cause you know, you see different. You might call somebody a three that I think is a nine. You know what I'm saying?

Mack P (01:17:12.499)
Mm-hmm.

Mondo (01:17:14.061)
Uh-uh.

Torrean (01:17:15.765)
Cool, well with that being said, who's gonna send us out today, man?

Mondo (01:17:20.461)
I don't know if it's Mac, because I started saying something. Mac was like, mm-hmm, boy. That boy mouth stop moving. Like, I ain't getting in trouble with y'all fools.

Torrean (01:17:24.181)
I'm out.

Mack P (01:17:37.122)
What do I say? I ain't got nothing for you. Come on T, close this up, man.

Mondo (01:17:38.189)
I'm a man, bro.

Mack P (01:17:45.15)
Try not to say too much, you know what I mean?

Mondo (01:17:46.797)
Oh, that's funny.

Torrean (01:17:49.337)
Nah, I'ma keep it real though. Like, you know, a song I kind of rock with on the radio, probably gonna be the name of this podcast, but you know, is that Used to Be Young by Miley Cyrus? We talk about it, man. Like we all used to be, that song, ay bro, that song bang, bro, I don't give a fuck. But anyway, you know, we all used to be young at one point in time, you know what I'm saying? And so, you know, we can talk about Anthony Edwards.

Mack P (01:18:15.386)
Rainy got this nigga listening to kids bop.

Mondo (01:18:17.933)
Ehh... Hehe

Torrean (01:18:20.157)
Hey, that's some real shit though, that's on vain though. But anyway, but yeah man, we all used to be young at some point in time, make some mistakes, you know, did some stupid shit, and we learned from it. And so it's all about the growth, you know, all about the growth, but you know, ain't nothing wrong with if you gotta have that young mentality too sometimes, you know, and just stay with it, cause life is too damn short. Life is too short.

Um, but last thing I'm gonna say too, you know, uh, fuck these Christmas presents. So, you know, if you ain't able to provide out there, you feel in some type of way about that shit and I hope we were able to provide some entertainment today. Uh, for you and, uh, you know what, man, life just moves on. It's all about you just being present. Don't worry about actually having to give the presents.

Mack P (01:19:09.976)
next.

Mondo (01:19:10.445)
Be a giver, you know what I'm saying? Alright, peace. laughs

Torrean (01:19:13.013)
Yeah, be a giver. All right, what that means for Mark and for Mondo, Torrean, AKA Daddy, we out.