Judy Hahn on Moving from Functional Wellness to Korean Skincare

In this episode, Judy Hahn shares her journey of embracing spiritual beliefs, overcoming societal expectations around religion (and life in general), and discovering her passion for health and well-being. The episode delves into Judy's experiences with overcoming 'off' days through inspirational content, her move from IT to functional wellness coaching, and her successful venture into Korean skincare products. Judy discusses the significance of self-care, stress management, and the transformative impact of high-quality skincare, specifically Riman products. Penny also provides insights into her upcoming free live event tailored for female entrepreneurs seeking a more fulfilling and service-oriented business approach. Join us to discover how to balance life and business with positivity and gratitude!

To learn more about Judy's Skincare Products: https://riman.com/?referrerCode=2035095347
Judy's Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/judybrierhahn 

00:00 Meeting Judy Hahn: A Friendship Begins

01:24 Discussing Spirituality and Religion

02:22 Judy's Journey and Personal Beliefs

06:21 Marriage and Cultural Differences

11:11 Judy's Professional Background

16:51 The Skincare Business Venture

30:16 Hair Product Reviews and Personal Experiences

30:58 The Importance of Slowing Down in Business

31:31 Understanding and Managing Stress

33:26 The Role of Diet and Sleep in Wellness

34:29 Western Medicine vs. Functional Medicine

39:07 Detailed Skincare Routine Breakdown

48:50 Personal Testimonials and Product Effectiveness

52:12 How to Connect and Learn More

55:07 Favorite Cocktails and Memorable Moments

59:39 Concluding Thoughts and Farewell

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Transcript

Judy Hahn on Moving from Functional Wellness to Korean Skincare

[00:00:00] Penny Fitzgerald: I met Judy Hahn through my Sassy Sisters Networking Group and we became fast friends. We share many beliefs and ways of moving through the world, even though we were raised quite differently. It's been fun uncovering the similarities and the differences, and I look forward to learning more as time goes on.

[00:00:56] One of the things we talked about was what to do when you have a day where you just feel a little off. Judy recommended watching or listening to a short inspirational video or clip from a favorite author. I hope you enjoy this episode and I hope you find ways to lift yourself up when you feel a little wonky.

[00:01:12] Start your day with some meditation, an uplifting podcast, and journal about your gratitude. It's hard to feel bad when you're grateful. Give it a try and I hope you have a great day. Here is Judy Hahn. Judy. Oh, you look fantastic. 

[00:01:30] Judy Hahn: Well, thank you. You look lovely. I realize I should have worn something that had some color in it instead of a black t shirt. That's all right. I love your earrings. Oh, thanks there. Um, they were a gift to myself for my 70th birthday. They represent all the religions in the world.

[00:01:54] I love it. They are engraved on the back with the, it says in acknowledging all paths, spirit lives fully within me. 

[00:02:06] Penny Fitzgerald: Oh, that's beautiful. 

[00:02:09] Judy Hahn: Yeah. She's a lovely lady. She has Parkinson's now, so she doesn't do any, any more jewelry, but they're very special. Wow, that's 

[00:02:18] Penny Fitzgerald: neat. Yeah. So what's, what's the meaning behind that?

[00:02:22] Well, how did you come to, um, desire that, you know, something that represented all the different religions. Um, I think it 

[00:02:31] Judy Hahn: was, you know, I, I'm very aware of how the religion I was born into, but I don't practice any particular, I really did probably until I was, 12, 13. And then, um, then I kind of saw religion as, um, you know, I was born Jewish.

[00:02:55] And I remember, um, like if something, somebody wasn't Jewish or they were of a different skin color or ethnicity, I heard. Uh, well, as long as you're just friends, you know, it just, it was one of those things that I felt, um, separated people instead of bringing people together. And so, um, the, I mean, and I've experimented, I'm very, uh, spiritual.

[00:03:30] Uh, I, uh, And when I actually, when I saw this woman, and when I, um, I decided I was going to buy something of hers for my 70th birthday. And so I was trying on different earrings, and I had tried these on, and I, I tried on a couple other pairs and she said to me, I know those are a little bit more expensive, but not everybody has the power to be able to wear those.

[00:04:03] Oh, wow. And I said, oh, that's that's interesting. And she said, but. Like she said, I will sell them to you for whatever the price of the other earrings you're thinking about buying, because seriously, you, you really are, are powerful enough to wear these earrings. 

[00:04:23] Penny Fitzgerald: I love that. 

[00:04:23] Judy Hahn: That's all I needed to hear. And plus I, you know.

[00:04:29] I think that what was engraved on the back is such a brilliant thing, you know, because it doesn't have to be any of these religions. It just has to be spirit. It has to be source or whatever you want to be. And, and so I'm very open. I accept people. I, you know, I, I, I don't ever want to be judged. And so I don't judge other people.

[00:04:54] And so that became very important to me. I wear them a ton of the time and I have tons of earrings because I also have a theory. You can gain and lose as much weight as you want, but your earrings will always fit you. 

[00:05:08] Penny Fitzgerald: I say that all the time too that, Oh, my high school earrings still fit. Yeah, right.

[00:05:13] Exactly. 

[00:05:14] Judy Hahn: So I'm good. I am. Yeah. 

[00:05:17] Penny Fitzgerald: Oh my gosh. I love that. Yeah, I was, I was raised similarly, not Jewish, but, um, the religion that I grew up in, it was very important at the time to be, um, you know, you didn't date outside of your, well, okay. It's a little bit convoluted. Let's put it this 

[00:05:38] Judy Hahn: way, what they knew we did and what they didn't know we did is a whole different issue.

[00:05:43] Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. I mean, I had friends in, from many different religious backgrounds and denominations, but they were all Protestant. 

[00:05:51] Audio Only - All Participants: Oh, okay. So that 

[00:05:53] Penny Fitzgerald: was, you know, that was kind of the line or the, um, the separation, you know, the expectation. Yeah. 

[00:06:02] Judy Hahn: Yeah. I was never good with, um, living up to anybody's expectations, but I really didn't date.

[00:06:09] I really didn't date. It was, it was, um, it wasn't, and actually I was 32 when I got engaged. And still my mother said, if you had been any younger, I would have put my foot down and I, because my husband's born Catholic and I said, um, and I would have put my foot right on top of yours. 

[00:06:35] Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah, this is your life, you know.

[00:06:37] Judy Hahn: Oh, wow. But you have to understand there's a, there's a, and it's, there's a reason behind it. We are a very. small people, right? There, of all the people in the United States, there's two percent. And if, uh, if the Jews are going to maintain the, the, the religion, Judaism, they really need to marry within their own religion.

[00:07:05] I knew I wasn't going to have kids. I mean, I, somewhere in my mind, I knew I wasn't going to have kids, and I also knew that if I did have kids, my husband would, um, be letting me raise my kids Jewish, because that would have been important to me. 

[00:07:22] Penny Fitzgerald: Uh huh. 

[00:07:23] Judy Hahn: And actually in the Jewish religion, the children always take the religion of the mother.

[00:07:31] So it really didn't matter that he was a Catholic. 

[00:07:34] Penny Fitzgerald: Uh huh. 

[00:07:35] Judy Hahn: Because they would have been Jewish in the eyes of the Jew, Judaism. 

[00:07:38] Penny Fitzgerald: Okay. Okay. Hmm. 

[00:07:42] Judy Hahn: Yeah. It's so fascinating to me. Yeah. Very interesting. 

[00:07:46] Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. Wow. Okay. So you married a Catholic boy. 

[00:07:51] Judy Hahn: Yeah. He was an altar boy and he was all the things, but then he really, he really, um, he, he doesn't know when he.

[00:08:06] lost that, um, religious kind of thing. I have an idea, but I, it's him and I want to talk about it because it's his thing. It's personal to him. Yeah, I think so. Um, but I kind of can identify where that might've happened, where he might've lost some faith and, and that's okay. He, um, you know, all that matters is that where we are is not, um, at a different place.

[00:08:36] Right? Right, right. And I'm like, I mean, I'm his education for being spiritual. He, he, I, my, my husband's from the south side of Milwaukee. Okay. Which is a very, um, a very German. Very Catholic. Yeah. Catholic. Yeah. And I was from the north side of Chicago. Um, and, and where I grew up was probably 99 percent Jewish.

[00:09:07] Penny Fitzgerald: Okay. 

[00:09:08] Judy Hahn: So very different people, very different upbringings. If it wouldn't have been for a blind date, we never would have, our parents would never have crossed. Wow. Next September is our 40th, uh, wedding anniversary. So nice. Something's working. 

[00:09:25] Penny Fitzgerald: That's fantastic. Congratulations. Yeah. That's I mean, there's one thing to be spiritual and your faith is personal, but your religion, your denomination, you know, that's not to me.

[00:09:47] The important part and that is what's in my mind. That's what separates us. And I, I don't subscribe to that too much anymore either. I mean, it's just, yeah, the way you, the way we were raised is really, I don't know, a blessing and a curse. 

[00:10:04] Judy Hahn: And there's so much, you know, and. Times were different. I'm, I'm, I, I would think considerably older than you.

[00:10:13] And, you know, my parents were born, uh, and lived through the depression. My father came from, um, Austria. So there, you know, there, there's a lot of, you know, Stuff forward, right? And that's not our stuff. We get to our own stuff. 

[00:10:39] Penny Fitzgerald: That's true. That's true. But it's just, it's fascinating to me too, that, um, the stuff from our parents and our ancestors, it comes to, it carries forward to absolutely.

[00:10:50] Yeah, 

[00:10:52] Judy Hahn: actually. 

[00:10:53] Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. It's the way it's always been done. Well, right. 

[00:10:58] Judy Hahn: And so that is the way it should always be done, except, yeah, I don't, I don't, um, yeah, that's not me, 

[00:11:05] Penny Fitzgerald: me either. Oh, Judy. Same. Oh, gosh. Okay. So you, you are a Midwesterner. 

[00:11:14] Judy Hahn: I was born in Chicago. Yeah. Um, I lived there until I went to college. I went to college in Iowa.

[00:11:23] Penny Fitzgerald: Really? Oh, you went to university, right? University of Iowa? University 

[00:11:26] Judy Hahn: of Iowa. Okay. Iowa City. Uh, did a third year abroad. Came back, changed from an art major to a French major. Uh, finished my schooling, I thought, and then went back to Chicago to live with my parents to find out I was one credit short of graduation.

[00:11:45] Oh, no. I took a paranormal psychology class at Northeastern University to tell you who I am, right? That's how I finished up my degree. And then the University of Iowa contacted me and asked me if I wanted to come back and be a teaching assistant, uh, at the University of Iowa. And so I taught French at University of Iowa while I did my master's.

[00:12:13] in French. Oh, 

[00:12:14] Penny Fitzgerald: lovely. 

[00:12:15] Judy Hahn: Yeah, and then, um, every year they pick one of their students to go on an exchange program and teach abroad, and because I think I was, um, a pain in the butt for everybody, I was the rebel on campus as always, um, they named me to that position. Let's get rid of her. Lucky you. Yeah, let's get rid of her so she doesn't go on for a Ph.

[00:12:41] D. So. Oh 

[00:12:42] Penny Fitzgerald: my gosh. 

[00:12:43] Judy Hahn: So that's, yeah. So. 

[00:12:45] Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah, it's, it's good to stir the pot a little bit. 

[00:12:49] Judy Hahn: Well, I didn't do it intentionally, but I think that, um, you know, many times that has, um, ended up to be in my favor. 

[00:13:01] Penny Fitzgerald: Yes. Most things are. Yeah. Bye. I, I always say everything's always working 

[00:13:07] Judy Hahn: out for me. 

[00:13:08] Penny Fitzgerald: That that's a wonderful mantra.

[00:13:10] I love that 

[00:13:13] Judy Hahn: up. It comes from, um, I don't know if you know Abraham Hicks? 

[00:13:17] Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah, 

[00:13:17] Judy Hahn: yeah. Yep. Abraham is always, everything's always working out for me. 

[00:13:22] Penny Fitzgerald: Mm-Hmm. . 

[00:13:22] Judy Hahn: And when you start feeling that, then it's, you start to attract it. So yeah, that is my, absolutely. That is my, uh, it's the way I live my life. Yeah, I tried to well, you know, we have days where like this morning.

[00:13:40] Yeah, it was like I found myself in a really weird place this morning. And then on my way to Pilates, I put on Abraham Hicks and I listened to it and I was like, oh, yeah. Let's change this. 

[00:13:55] Penny Fitzgerald: A little reminder. I was going to ask you how you get out of it when you get in, you know, if something funky happens or if you get, you know, if something is not feeling right, what do you do to change it?

[00:14:05] Oh, a lot of 

[00:14:06] Judy Hahn: times I just look for, um, like, you can subscribe to their stuff on YouTube. They're just 14, 15 minute little, Thanks. I don't need to pick me up. Yeah. And sometimes I'll search for a particular topic and sometimes I just, you know, do the roulette wheel. Whatever comes up is what I need. 

[00:14:28] Penny Fitzgerald: Well, right.

[00:14:29] And that's, there's something to that too. I feel 

[00:14:32] Judy Hahn: absolutely. You're absolutely correct. And today it was, it was, I didn't have time. I thought I'm driving down the street going now. What am I going to do? Oh, yeah. Abraham Hicks. Yeah. You don't have time or you have to concentrate on the street and where you're driving.

[00:14:47] Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. 

[00:14:47] Judy Hahn: Yeah. I'm in Florida 

[00:14:49] Penny Fitzgerald: and you just attract what you need. Yeah. 

[00:14:52] Judy Hahn: And came home and everything was all different. So, Oh, good. Yeah. 

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[00:16:43] Good. Good. Oh, gosh, this is so fun. So, okay. So tell me, tell us a little bit about what you're, what you do. You have wonderful skincare products. that you're working with now.

[00:16:55] That is 

[00:16:56] Judy Hahn: correct. I have gone through many iterations of my life. Uh, I closed my functional wellness, uh, coaching business in December of 22, but I've always had a penchant for educating people for health and wellness and for things that can bring, um, or make someone's life better in some way, shape or form.

[00:17:23] And I was not looking for that business. I actually have two businesses I run. I was not looking for either of them, but the university had other ideas. Um, the skincare is the most recent. I, um, was noticing that I have a condition that's, it's very painful. Um, and I was noticing I've had it since 1996 or seven, something like that.

[00:17:49] I try to just ignore it. You know, I just go about my business. But, um, I, I realized when I looked in the mirror that I was noticing the quantity of wrinkles that I had on my face. And I had an interesting experience, um, previous to functional wellness, I was in I. T. and I had gone into a store, uh, because I had some questions about some technology and it, it was like my very first, encounter with what I felt was kind of ageism.

[00:18:29] Penny Fitzgerald: Oh really? And 

[00:18:30] Judy Hahn: yeah, remember I'm, I want to talk technology. Yeah. I'm a kid and I look older. I am 72, but uh, I, I really looked 72 at the time. And I really did. I'd love to show you the before and after pictures because you, you would, it's hard to even believe, I hardly believe it. But, um, he was talking to me in a way that was kind of like, okay, well, let's see.

[00:19:00] Let's, you know, it was very. It's tone of voice, basic, and I say about to myself, Oh, honey, you, you barked up the wrong tree here. I just flipped the switch and I started to school. Yeah, I started talking to him in like, super tech language and. Like it was just floored, but, um, shortly after that, a friend of mine, um, many people come to me to ask if I will look at, uh, different kinds of products, if they're healthy enough, I will take a look at them.

[00:19:34] And she said that this company was brand new in the United States in North America, and they ban 3, 000 toxic ingredients where the. EU bans 2, 000 and the United States bans about a dozen. Yeah. Us, 

[00:19:53] yeah. 

[00:19:53] Yeah. United States. So, um, yeah. And so I said, Oh yeah, sure. But I'll give you the same deal that I'll give everybody.

[00:20:02] I, you get a month. Right. Uh huh. Never had a response in a month of anything I've ever used. I've never cared. I'm the one bar of goat's milk. 

[00:20:13] So yeah. 

[00:20:15] And you're gonna here's, here's nine products you want me to try in a ritual. 

[00:20:20] Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. 

[00:20:21] Judy Hahn: Hey, I will do whatever it is twice a day for a month. If that's what the, cause I have to give it the full, you know, everything Judy and, um, and I did, and that first month there was such an enormous change.

[00:20:37] I mean, all the wrinkles were going, what you see now is pretty close to what the one month was. Wow. Um, and, uh, had I not done before and after pictures, which we ask everybody to do now, because it's just even after a couple of days to see the difference between when you started and when, when you have been using them, and I will probably forever use these products twice a day.

[00:21:04] I use 9 products. in the morning actually, uh, eight products in the morning. And I think I use five in the evening because I'm doing, we only have two rituals. I mean, it's not like the United States you have, uh, eye cream and day cream and night cream and ear cream and nose cream around your eye cream and over your brow cream and serum for this and say, no, uh, it's why I enjoy it is because it's very much part of my functional wellness.

[00:21:35] In other words, we look at the root cause and the root cause isn't, you know, day or night or, or my eyes or anything else. It's the skin cells. And so what these products do is they nourish the skin cells. So they're actually hydrating, they're actually repairing. And so we do cleanse, we hydrate, and we repair or nourish.

[00:22:03] And that is what happened to my skin. I mean, there's no ifs, ands, or buts about the fact that in one month, I was like, You gotta be kidding me. So I said, you know what? I, the business side of it is so fascinating. It's so fair. It's more than any kind of company I've ever seen before. Uh, I said, if it can help me.

[00:22:29] now walk into a place and the guy isn't going to talk to me like I'm a grandma, then why don't I do that for everybody? And we do men, women, um, Korean, Korean skin. I didn't know anything about it. Tell you the truth. I, I, like all I knew was skin was my largest organ and I had to put healthy things on it to make sure that because there's no filtration system, whatever goes on, it goes in your bloodstream.

[00:22:59] I need to stay healthy with healthy products. I mean, that, that to me was skincare, right? And now I realized that, um, the Koreans actually start with their kids. They teach them this, the same kind of, of, of, uh, nourishment of the largest organ of their body and, and really, I had no idea. Korea is to beauty products is Paris is to fashion.

[00:23:31] I mean, I had no idea. And so it was not a planned business, but it's so delightful. I love to, to, if anybody wants to do spa parties, you know, have their friends over and just everybody tries the product. If they want to buy some, that's great. If they don't want to buy some, at least we had a fun evening together, you know, a bunch of, women getting together, acting like teenagers.

[00:23:58] Oh, let me try that. You know, it's like, it's very cool. It's very fun. So 

[00:24:03] Penny Fitzgerald: yeah. So it's, it's a Korean product, then a South Korean, uh, 

[00:24:07] Judy Hahn: company. The gentleman who created the company actually created most of the formulations. in Korea. He actually is a multi billionaire. Oh wow. So when he found this plant called Tiger Grass, he didn't need to do anything really.

[00:24:26] He could have done it, sold it to L'Oreal or Dior, any of those companies, but he also had a plan. where he said, you know, I've sold all that stuff to all these people. I want the average person to be able to afford these products. And I want people to be able to sell the products and make good money. So we tease about, uh, change your skin, change your finances.

[00:24:54] Seriously, there are so many people who have been able to do that. Thanks to the products. Um, but he found something called tiger grass and what it is is, um, the tigers when they get wounded, they look for these plants and they roll around in it and it heals their wounds. So he thought, wow, this is really interesting.

[00:25:16] So he took the plant and you'll love it. Well, two and a half billion dollars. He bought an island off of South Korea, just like everyone would, right? As one does. Yeah. Instead of taking the money for himself, but this is what I think is so amazing. And I met him, not that I understood a word he said. Um, 

[00:25:38] he bought an island. He created a plant and he got a contract for a world heritage site, which is lava energy water that only there are only five contracts in the world for it. And the plant actually is made so that the water comes into the plant. Now you understand that the water has been filtered by lava for 400, 000 years.

[00:26:03] So it's very mineralized. So it's feeding the tiger grass. The tiger grass in like 15 days went from quarter size to the size of the palm of his hand. We call it. Giant Tiger Grass. Isn't that? Actually, I call it Giant Beyond Pool. Beyond Pool, I imagine, is Tiger Grass in Korean. And, uh, from there he decided to create a company and this is his, uh, you know, his heritage product, his heritage ingredients, and the, the interesting thing, like I am, I move at this light, at the speed of light, you know, I'm like, yeah, this has taught me to slow down.

[00:26:52] So it's really interesting because I feel that. In some ways, I've always touted self care to people and how with my clients in functional wellness, that self care is not something that's selfish. It is self, it's non negotiable. You have to give yourself the downtime, the self care, the whatever it is. And so I use it as a way of slowing down a little bit.

[00:27:24] And every once in a while, I'll even put a candle and try to do it slower in the evening. Or if I have time, I don't do it often that way. But, you know, just to remind myself that there is a, an ancient ritual that really is behind this, which is why we call them rituals. And there's only two. There's a basic set of products and there's an advanced set of products, and that's because we're feeding the cells of the skin and not different parts of the face or the neck or whatever.

[00:28:00] They're safer around the eyes. the neck. We have shampoo and conditioner. You need to understand that. And, and I don't know if people really do, but coming from a functional wellness point of view, uh, the skin doesn't have a filtration system. So whatever you put on your skin or your scalp, that goes into your bloodstream and you risk getting conditions or illnesses based on the toxic ingredients that are in those products.

[00:28:34] which, which is also then why he expanded to personal care products, the best body lotion I've ever used. And I hate body lotion. So that's for me to say, um, shampoo conditioner, uh, with my curly hair, I like to put something on it so it doesn't get frizzy here in Florida. There's a, an oil that you can put just a couple of drops and then you.

[00:29:02] And it like goes, it's back and it's not just for curly hair. I mean, it's, it's to give the nourishment again to the hair it needs. They have some nutritional products also. 

[00:29:16] Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. Yeah. I'm, you know, with curling your hair, I hardly ever curl my hair anymore, but using curling irons and styling products or styling tools.

[00:29:26] Yeah, you need 

[00:29:27] Judy Hahn: to. Oh, yeah. I mentioned something. Yeah, I'm, I'm one of those really spoiled people. Although I have to say in the 70s, was it the 70s when I was in high school? Yeah, the 70s. Um, I straightened my hair. But in college, when I'd stop straightening my hair, my hair is, was tight enough curl to be an Afro.

[00:29:54] I know it's hard to believe cause it's pretty soft girls now, but that's what does. Yeah, 

[00:30:00] Penny Fitzgerald: age. Just so 

[00:30:00] Judy Hahn: many. 

[00:30:01] Penny Fitzgerald: I'm just going to relax. 

[00:30:02] Judy Hahn: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're too tired to be curly now. 

[00:30:06] Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. 

[00:30:07] Judy Hahn: Um, but, uh, no, I can imagine something like that oil. And actually, uh, I did a, An event this weekend. And it was so funny 'cause somebody saw the hair products and they said, well, are they any good?

[00:30:20] And I was like, well, feel, feel my hair . I mean, what could I, that's all I could say. I, I don't know how to tell you otherwise. She was like, yeah, your hair's really soft . So I was like, yeah, I really like it. So there's body wash and body lotion and Yeah. Shampoo condition. So it's, it's really very. much a, um, a complete product line so that we know that we're getting those, you know, 3000 band ingredients.

[00:30:52] Penny Fitzgerald: Okay. Well, I, I, um, I have a couple of questions. So going back to, um, you know, slowing down, I feel like in business too, don't you, do you agree that you have to slow down to speed up? You 

[00:31:08] Judy Hahn: have to, yeah, here's what happens in a little of the functional wellness, if you'll bear with me, just because I don't practice doesn't mean I don't preach.

[00:31:19] That's right. I don't know that the, like most people. Are willing to acknowledge the amount of stress that they have in their life. You know, I've been at meetings where I hear somebody go, oh, I had to take my mom here and I had to take my dad there and the kids and schlep them here and. They had gymnastics and then I had to go here and there and I did the carpool and, and the next one sitting at the table goes, Oh, you think your life is bad.

[00:31:56] Let me tell you what I'm doing. You don't win for being the busiest. I was just going to say it's not a badge of honor guys. No, right? As a matter of fact, That's what really, really made me aware of, cause I asked afterwards, so, so do you think you have a high stress level? Oh, no. And I'm like, you know what happens?

[00:32:22] You have stress. And then you get used to it, right? It becomes your norm and then you have all these other things that are like the kids and your parents and because we are, we're sandwich generation, right? Taking care of our parents, taking care of our kids and everybody else's and, and then, so then you have the doctor tells you some bad news about some tests you had or whatever it is, your stress level goes up.

[00:32:51] But you, not you, but the you, the you says, Oh, that's just normal. And so you accept that stress level is your new norm and people, you want to know what creates the majority of inflammation in the body, which is what creates chronic degenerative disease. It's stress. 

[00:33:17] Penny Fitzgerald: Mm hmm. 

[00:33:18] Judy Hahn: It's stress, right? High cortisol levels, burning up a little bit of those adrenals.

[00:33:24] And what's happening at nighttime? People don't know how to eat properly. And I'm not just talking about the crap that we eat when we get upset. There really is something called eating hygiene. It has to do with the fact that our bodies start digestion before we ever even put food in our mouth. and people don't know that.

[00:33:47] And then things like sleep, there's sleep hygiene. Go to bed at a specific hour, get up at a specific hour, the room needs to be dark, it should be quite cool, um, you know, your phone shouldn't be there, you shouldn't be looking at it before you go to bed. All of those things, all of it adds up and then people wonder, yeah, but how did, and I, What's like?

[00:34:16] I have something wrong with me. They go to the doctor. The doctor says, oh, you have a thyroid problem, which is the biggest thing doctors tell people. And then Western medicine has. Interesting ways of dealing with things, because Western Medicine is all about what's wrong with you and what medication can I give you?

[00:34:38] Instead of staying well. Staying well, or as a functional wellness coach or a functional medicine doctor will do, it's about what do you have? Why do you have it? Let's figure out the root cause and get rid of it. That would be great. Yeah. And I was at the, um, I had to have an endoscopy in the anesthesiologist walked in the room.

[00:35:08] She said, Oh, you're 72. I was like, this is not news to me, honey. And then she says, Oh, and you don't take any medications. I was like, right. Like it was a miracle. You're 72 and you don't take any medications because I listen to all these people and they're taking blood pressure medication and Diabetes medication And the PPI is which you really shouldn't PPI is to lower your stomach acid a doctor I'll tell you she told me you have too much stomach acid and I said, excuse me This was the doctor after the endoscopy.

[00:35:53] I said, really? Too much stomach acid? There is no such thing, really. It's stomach acid in the wrong place. Yeah. Going up, you were, you know, getting reflux or whatever it was. She was like, Oh, stomach acid in the wrong place. I was like, bingo. 

[00:36:12] Penny Fitzgerald: She's not used to talking to someone who knows what the difference is.

[00:36:16] Judy Hahn: Well, and I think it's important. And I think that the other thing is, and this is a whole nother conversation, but I think people don't ask questions. They believe that the doctor is the the authority. All knowing, right? So yes, back to self care and slowing down in your business, it's huge. The, you cannot take care of others if your cup is empty.

[00:36:43] Penny Fitzgerald: Exactly. It's the whole airline analogy, you know, put, put your mask on first. I used 

[00:36:51] Judy Hahn: to say that to people, they used to roll their eyes. I'm like, you're not going to like this, but I don't care. It's, it's a really 

[00:36:57] Penny Fitzgerald: simple picture that really illustrates it. Yeah. And the whole, the whole busyness and stress, I feel like I believe it's our mindset too, around those things that we have to do.

[00:37:09] Like when you mentioned that, you know, someone had to take their mom to a doctor appointment or their dad or whatever you get. To do that, how privileged you are that you still have your mom and dad, you know, the, the way that you look at things really shifts your perspective and it shifts the, the way that you process and how it 

[00:37:31] Judy Hahn: shifts how your body is going to react to it because people don't realize that their words create their reality.

[00:37:41] And that, you know, what you see, what you say is what you get. 

[00:37:47] Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. 

[00:37:48] Judy Hahn: And that's the whole, uh, law of attraction, you know, if people would understand that, you know, if I say something's hard, guess what? It's going to be hard. I made it hard. It's going to come. You're ordering it up. Right. Or, and, and you may notice that if you encounter people and you feel, sometimes you get near somebody and they barely say a few words, and you feel like.

[00:38:17] Oh, this is not 

[00:38:20] Penny Fitzgerald: going well, 

[00:38:21] Judy Hahn: right? Because it's their energy, their energy is negative. Everything that they put and you, you're being like, it, it's like repelling, right? 

[00:38:31] Penny Fitzgerald: Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Like magnets flip ones, flip the wrong way. 

[00:38:36] Judy Hahn: Exactly. And, but it's, it's important to recognize that and be kind to those people, but don't choose to be around those people because it's a keep your frequency and your self 

[00:38:50] Penny Fitzgerald: guard your heart, guard your energy.

[00:38:53] Yeah. Yeah. So you can get energy vampires. What? Yeah. You, you know, if you guard your energy, if you protect it, you're, you're available to serve more people. Yes. Serve others. Yeah. It's important. Yeah. It's important. So the other question, Judy, the getting back to the product, the products that you have, um, why eight or nine steps in the regimen?

[00:39:17] What's, what are they about? 

[00:39:19] Judy Hahn: Well, uh, there's three groupings. If you want to look at it that way, like I said, I was the one bar of goats milk. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm 

[00:39:28] Penny Fitzgerald: a pretty simple girl too. 

[00:39:29] Judy Hahn: Well, you know, and, you know, out of the other side of my mouth, I'm going no way in hell. Am I going to do things? That's 

[00:39:39] Penny Fitzgerald: that thought occurred to me.

[00:39:40] I'm like nine. Well, the 

[00:39:44] Judy Hahn: first two are cleansing. There's a dual cleansing system and I did not realize, and I've done a lot of research now because obviously if I'm representing this company and I was the one bar of goat's milk girl, I need to understand. So, uh, the first step is oil cleansing and it's contraintuitive, Especially when somebody says I have oily skin, but oil attracts oil.

[00:40:09] And so when you use that as a cleanser, it draws things out of the pores and helps clean. It comes off. It's not like, uh, taking, you know, olive oil and putting it on your skin, literally when you get in the shower. So what I do is. to minimize the steps. I put that on before I get in the shower. Okay. And then in the shower, I rinse it off and I have a towel.

[00:40:38] I dry my face and then I grab the snow cleanser. Snow cleanser is an enzyme cleanser. It's a white and it foams when you rub it on your face. Now, being the overachiever I was and not like I send everybody a video on how to do things, but it's a good I did not receive a video for anything. So I just was like, Oh, I put it on my face and I, the first time I get it, I look like somebody hit me with a cream pie.

[00:41:10] So you just use a little bit, you rub it in and it's, it's very luxurious. It is very, very soft and it feels great. And then you rinse that off. And then I take the rest of my shower. I get out, I dry myself off. And then, um, so that is the cleansing. There's also an alternative cleanser, which is a slight exfoliator, which is also enzyme.

[00:41:36] So there's actually three of the steps can be cleanser. You use the, the exfoliator maybe a couple of times a week, if you don't need it. Similar to other masks. Yeah, you would use that instead of one of the other cleansers. And then, um, then you use something called the, uh, calming balancing gel, which is hyaluronic acid and it's got old flex and a few other things in it.

[00:42:05] And it really is refreshing and any kind of, I mean, even if you had a mosquito bite, it would calm it down. It, it just, it's a lovely, calming way about it. Then there's, it's called the Vieton, oil mist, which is a very, very fine spray that you put on that hydrates. So really we've moved from cleansing to hydrating now because I think that's why when you use the products one time and you take a picture before and after, you see the difference because we are so dehydrated and we're dehydrated.

[00:42:45] Imagine what our skin, which is face to face with the world is all the time. Yeah. 

[00:42:50] Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. 

[00:42:50] Judy Hahn: So, um, and actually I was in Africa for a month, wasn't able to really use my products the way I wanted to because the sinks were hot and cold spigots. 

[00:43:01] Penny Fitzgerald: Oh yeah. And I didn't 

[00:43:03] Judy Hahn: have anything that would seal the sink. There was no thing.

[00:43:08] And so, um, I really, maybe four times in the month was able to do my whole ritual, but I carried that spray bottle of Viettan spray mist with me all day, every day. And whenever I felt like I was a little dehydrated or the sun had been out a little bit too much, I would just spray it. It's refreshing.

[00:43:28] There's almost no scent to any of these products, which I appreciate greatly because I am one of those people who are smell sensitive. If you give me certain things, I'm like, Oh no, that turns my stomach, you know, so I appreciate it. So, um, it's a calming balancing gel, the Viettan mist, and then we have what we call Boo Say Boo.

[00:43:52] It's their little catchphrase. It's a booster that hydrates the face. Okay. Then you use the serum, which again is a thicker, more rich kind of hydration. And then you use the booster to kind of lock it all in. 

[00:44:10] Penny Fitzgerald: Okay. 

[00:44:11] Judy Hahn: And then lastly, you have the cream. which is, you know, the, the queen of the hydration and moisturizing.

[00:44:19] Um, you have a little bit of a shine, which we call the Riman glow, or it's really just that our skin is so hydrated that it, and if you look at the Asians, um, they call it glass skin. You can see that it's, it almost glows. It's, it's really. Like I said, I never paid attention to this stuff before, and now I like, now everybody who walks by, I'm like, Ooh, I wonder.

[00:44:48] Penny Fitzgerald: It's like that, you know, when you're buying, you're looking for a car and you have your eyes set on a red Camry, and then that's all you see is red Camry. 

[00:44:56] Judy Hahn: Yeah. And I think again, that, that goes back to law of attraction. It is. Yep. Exactly. Yeah. So, and that's really it. Now, now that's what I use. Um, that's the basic.

[00:45:09] There's also sunscreen. I'm less, less enamored with their sunscreen, but I love everything else. And that would, that is the, The system that I started with for that month now being 72. I have a few things that are still happening on this face that I'm like, okay, let's see if we can get a little bit, uh, more oomph here.

[00:45:35] And so those are water based products. And I ask that anybody who's interested in the products start with those and then no matter how bad they think they look, wait. till their skin gets acclimated to the ingredients, to the products. It only takes maybe, I used it 10 days before I started to try the Advanced.

[00:45:57] And the Advanced has the same two cleansers, but it has a toner, and what they call an ampoule, which is a serum, and then a cream. There's a few less products, but But that product line is called nanotechnology liposomal and the nanotechnology for those who don't know means that the particles are so small that they actually can penetrate deeper in the skin, which is why I like people not to start with it because they could have detoxing.

[00:46:31] I had no detoxing when I started with the other and went to this. 

[00:46:34] Penny Fitzgerald: Okay. 

[00:46:35] Judy Hahn: Um, and liposomal because it is oil based, but it doesn't feel oily at all. It's really, it's, he did such a fabulous job, uh, creating these products. Um, I, I really, I'm so impressed by and then the, the, the shampoo and the conditioner are amazing.

[00:46:57] I never thought I'd be putting some oil on my hands and going like this. I thought, oh, I'm going to look like a funsy, you know, no, not at all. It's just a 

[00:47:08] Penny Fitzgerald: pocket 

[00:47:09] Judy Hahn: gives it a little, um, a little sheen and it takes a little of the frizz away. But what's funny is. Um, I don't know why for years now. My back has always itched 

[00:47:23] me.

[00:47:24] I have no idea why. 

[00:47:26] And so I always was buying healthy lotions, right? And I can't reach it. So my husband put it on my back and he'd go, okay, I'd wake him up. I mean, that's how bad the itching was. I gotta have some cream on my back. You gotta do it now. So he put it on my back, put it on my, and he go and they keep going like this and he's on.

[00:47:48] What do I do with this now? It would still be there on his hand. Is it just wiping on my legs or my, I don't care. Well, fast forward to using Rimon. I, you know, I thought, Oh, I've got, still got a bunch of the lotions, but you know what, I'm going to order it to see what it's like. My husband says to me one day, you know, this product is weird.

[00:48:11] I'm like, what do you mean? Weird? He said, when I put the lotion on your back, it goes into your skin so fast. I can't even see where I've put it. 

[00:48:22] So if you 

[00:48:23] think about it, that's exactly what we want. 

[00:48:26] We 

[00:48:27] want this to go deep into the skin, start to heal the skin from the inside out. And now it's, I, you know, I hardly ever ask him anymore to put the stuff on my back because whatever it was, it doesn't happen now.

[00:48:44] Wow. 

[00:48:44] So, I, I, I'm like a walking billboard, you know. You're passionate about it. Well, I've had results. And having results, you know, I mean, I've never been a particularly, I don't want to say vain, you know, really cared how I looked, I didn't always wear makeup and I don't always wear makeup or anything, but I 

[00:49:09] Penny Fitzgerald: don't like 

[00:49:10] Judy Hahn: having, having the experience of seeing myself, uh, kind of age backwards.

[00:49:21] And all it was, was, you know, something that truly got into the cells of my skin and hydrated it. There's like people who they're like, all of a sudden they have cheekbones. They have things. We have a Facebook group. If you ever want, I'm happy to add you or anybody to it. Um, they just have to be friends with me on Facebook.

[00:49:43] There's hundreds of people in that group that have befores and afters. They, they, because it repairs the skin, people with eczema, psoriasis, rosacea, um, fine lines and wrinkles, whatever it happens to be, it seems to, like, heal those cells and people. Now, let me, let me give you a, what do you want to call it?

[00:50:10] A little caveat for rosacea. It does help. I've seen people, uh, like immensely have changes in their skin, but rosacea, just so you know, it usually indicates that there's some sort of a gut problem. So really the two things should be addressed at the same time. Interesting. The skincare does great for taking away that real red, but if you're, if you're still trashing your gut, um, 

[00:50:42] and 

[00:50:42] acne, you should see the picture.

[00:50:44] I have never seen anything like it in my life. These kids, it was so sad to see how they were. And, and, you know, that's when you have young people. Especially, I mean, there are adults who have acne too, but when they're in the prime of their teenage years or something, and, and they, they, you know, it's devastating, I think, socially for them, and now there's an answer, you know, they're trying, 

[00:51:12] Penny Fitzgerald: they're at a time in their life when they're trying their hardest to fit in and to be, you know, find their way.

[00:51:19] Judy Hahn: Right, and it's kind of when people judge you from the outside, right? Oh, you judge 

[00:51:24] Penny Fitzgerald: yourself and you feel like you're, here's the standard and you're not there. I mean, it's just, you know, as a kid, it's harder to have your self esteem if you're not feeling like you're up to the bar of where you would like to be or what's expected.

[00:51:37] And yeah, that's sad. 

[00:51:41] Judy Hahn: Yeah, it is. But, you know, at least we have an answer. Yeah. Yeah, I just have to get to the people. That's all. And I'm happy to. I love to. Like I say, I love to do the spot parties. If anybody wants to do that and bring the products over, you have a few people over and and we just play.

[00:52:02] And do before and after pictures. And it's really fun. Just a nice way to spend an evening or an afternoon. 

[00:52:09] Penny Fitzgerald: I'm sure. And with the girls. 

[00:52:11] Judy Hahn: Yeah. 

[00:52:12] Penny Fitzgerald: So, Judy, how would people I mean, local people in Southwest Florida, um, can find you in person. Um, how. What would be a good way to connect with you?

[00:52:22] Because, you know, there are listeners from across the country. And, um, how would you like people to contact you or be or learn more about what you're doing? 

[00:52:31] Judy Hahn: Oh, gosh. Um, easiest is probably, um, I have, um, Facebook. 

[00:52:40] Audio Only - All Participants: Okay, 

[00:52:41] Judy Hahn: but I'm Judy Brier Han. I don't know. Do you? I can give you a link if you want to show notes 

[00:52:48] Penny Fitzgerald: for sure.

[00:52:48] Judy Hahn: And I can also put a link to the, um, the Riman, uh, website so people can look and see what the, the products are about, but I, you know, I've been an educator since I was 16 and so I want people to know that there's no such thing as a stupid question, except the one that you don't ask. So please, please feel free to ask any question and, um, there's some great, uh, Oh, they don't have sales usually, you know, yet luxury line type things don't usually do sales, but they're going to do some amazing bundles for Black Friday and, um, if anybody wants to know about that to let me know so I can let them know before things sell out like crazy.

[00:53:38] I've 

[00:53:39] never seen anything like it. We have these experience kits. They have, um, an experience kit for the basic. It's little mini bottles, like little travel bottles. It includes the alternate cleanser and not the other two. But, um, it's like for 100 you have All these products and you can experience it.

[00:54:03] Well, they had them online and in three hours they were gone. Oh, you have to understand Korean skincare is. on TikTok, I guess, which is one of the places I am not, but it, uh, it has increased, um, 600 percent interest in Korean skincare over the last year. When I first learned about it, it was a 300%. So, um, it, it is really something that, that is trending, but in, and I can't speak to other lines.

[00:54:40] I do know the quality of this, um, and the health, you know, benefits as far as it helping to heal skin. So I appreciate your asking. I can also put my email address if somebody wants to contact me that way. 

[00:54:57] Penny Fitzgerald: Okay. Okay. Yeah. I'll include whatever you're comfortable with in the show notes. So yeah. That would be great.

[00:55:03] Judy Hahn: Thank you. 

[00:55:03] Penny Fitzgerald: Awesome. Okay. Well, um, something fun and off topic. 

[00:55:07] Judy Hahn: Yes. 

[00:55:08] Penny Fitzgerald: I, um, I always ask my guests at the end, what's your favorite cocktail or kind of wine and what's a memory shared with girlfriends, um, having a nice glass of whatever. 

[00:55:20] Judy Hahn: Oh, this is called Amarula. Amarula is a fruit in Africa. that the elephants like to eat when it ferments.

[00:55:33] Uh, it is mixed with cream. So it is a Bailey's kind of, just to give you an idea. It's like, I'm not a Bailey's person, but I could live on this stuff. Uh, but the woman who I traveled to Africa with both this year and last year, uh, we have a called the Phoenix Martini because her name is Phoenix. It is two shots of Amarula and one shot of a good vodka like Grey Goose shaken and served in a martini glass and she and I drank that all across Africa.

[00:56:12] That sounds delightful. It was, it was quite lovely. And I brought, I brought a bit, it, it's, it's really very, because of the cream, it's very Bailey like, Bailey. Okay, so there's not 

[00:56:26] Penny Fitzgerald: really a fruity kind of overtone? No, it's kind of strange that way. 

[00:56:31] Judy Hahn: Yeah, no, it, Yeah, maybe a little caramely. I, I, there, there's a few different kinds.

[00:56:36] There's an espresso one, I noticed, but I still think I like the, the original one the most. You can get it at Total Wine. 

[00:56:45] Penny Fitzgerald: Oh, really? 

[00:56:46] Judy Hahn: Yeah. So it's not like it's, yeah, you look where the, um, like the coffee liqueurs are. 

[00:56:54] Okay. I 

[00:56:55] think I found the bottle. 

[00:56:56] Okay. 

[00:56:57] And, um, in, in the gray goose or whatever. Yeah. Nice.

[00:57:02] The vodka you use. Um, pantry 

[00:57:05] Penny Fitzgerald: staple in my house. 

[00:57:07] Judy Hahn: Yeah, there you go. Uh, and it's just, it's really fun because I had never heard of it until I went to Africa. I'm not a huge drinker to begin with, but it's just a, You know, a fun cap to an evening where somebody's asked us about, uh, a trip to Africa. Yeah. Yes, we've, it's, it's, it's cheap here.

[00:57:30] So you don't have to look like it. 26 a bottle or something. 

[00:57:34] Penny Fitzgerald: Oh, it's not bad. Well, and it takes you back. I mean, drinks, experience. It just takes you right back to where you were having those lovely moments with your friend. 

[00:57:45] Judy Hahn: Absolutely. And she and I spent the month together in Africa. We were going to a, uh, photography program that turned out to not really exist, uh, the way it was supposed to.

[00:57:59] So we created our own trip and to celebrate that we had many evenings of Amarula martini. You 

[00:58:06] Penny Fitzgerald: had some free time. 

[00:58:08] Judy Hahn: No, we actually created a whole nother trip. Okay. Yeah, we were there. We were not gonna, like, not spend the time, but the, the program was not what it was supposed to be. So we left and did our own thing.

[00:58:22] Okay. 

[00:58:22] Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. Plan B. 

[00:58:25] Judy Hahn: Yep. You got to always have a plan. That's 

[00:58:26] Penny Fitzgerald: right. Oh my gosh. Sometimes I go to G. Oh my God. You know, you just 

[00:58:32] Judy Hahn: never know. Oh yeah. I'm going to have to think about that now. That's good. 

[00:58:39] Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. Why not? I mean, just. Spontaneity is a good thing, but yeah, always, it's like, you know, when you have your heart set on something or your expectation is at a certain level and then it doesn't turn out to be that way, or it's different.

[00:58:54] I mean, what's your mindset? Is it going to be like, Oh, I'm so disappointed. No, you're in Africa. You're not going to be disappointed. 

[00:59:00] Judy Hahn: Well, and that's, that's what people were like, you know, how amazing the, the program was totally not what they said it was. And instead of being upset, the two of you found another way to travel for three weeks in Africa.

[00:59:15] Penny Fitzgerald: That's right. That's right. Discover something new, take an adventure and look at it in that, in that vein that it's, Oh gosh, I'm having this great time with my girlfriend. And we're look at this adventure we're on together. 

[00:59:27] Judy Hahn: Plus now we can go back and find a real photography program. It's a hobby. That's an opportunity of 

[00:59:34] Penny Fitzgerald: nice.

[00:59:36] Judy Hahn: Yeah. 

[00:59:37] Penny Fitzgerald: Oh, that's fun. 

[00:59:39] Judy Hahn: Judy. This has been so fun. Oh, thank you. It was lovely to be invited to do this and, and, uh, So special to get, you know, time to talk to you like this. 

[00:59:50] Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah, I'm grateful for the opportunity. It's been fun.

[00:59:53] Judy Hahn: Thanks again, Penny. This was super. 

[00:59:57] Penny Fitzgerald: Yes, it was. I appreciate it a bunch. I have a great rest of your day.

[01:00:01] Judy Hahn: Thank you. You too. Bye. 

[01:00:03] Penny Fitzgerald: Bye.