Rebuilding Worth: Kacey Voelker on Sobriety, Confidence & Purpose

What does it take to rewrite your story—on your own terms?

In this heartfelt episode, I catch up with Kacey Voelker, a former wine guide I hadn’t seen in years. And wow... what a journey she’s been on. Kacey opens up about her decision to get sober nearly three years ago, the healing work she’s done since, and how she’s now using her experience to coach other women who feel stuck, unworthy, or like they’ve lost their spark.

We talk about:

• Letting go of shame and old stories
• Setting boundaries and choosing who gets to walk beside you
• Creating a life aligned with purpose—one small step at a time
• Her growing coaching practice and how Plexus is supporting her wellness journey
• Why being “fun” doesn’t have to mean alcohol—and how community can still thrive

Whether you're sober-curious, in recovery, or just navigating a season of transformation, Kacey’s story is a powerful reminder that you’re never starting from scratch—you’re starting from experience.

✨ Links to connect with Kacey:
 Website: https://renewandthrive.transformative-pathways-coaching.com/
Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/transformativepathways/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coachkcv
Plexus Site: https://mysite.plexusworldwide.com/KaceyVoelker/

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Transcript

Rebuilding Worth: Kacey Voelker on Sobriety, Confidence & Purpose

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Penny Fitzgerald: Hello friends. I'm so excited to bring you this week's conversation with someone I haven't talked to in years. Kacey Voelker. Kacey and I go way back to our days with traveling Vineyard. She was on a very dear friend's team and while we didn't get to see each other very often, there was always a spark when we did.

You know, those people that just light up a room? That's Kacey, this conversation [00:01:00] was raw, real, and deeply moving. Kacey opens up about her journey through alcoholism, recovery, and rediscovering her worth. Not just for herself, but for her two daughters and the life she's building with intention and purpose.

She's now a certified life coach, creating transformative tools for women who want more confidence, clarity, and joy. And she's also part of the wellness world through Plexus. We talk about what it's like to walk away from what's comfortable, set boundaries even when it's hard, and follow that persistent nudge that says there's something more for you.

If you've ever doubted yourself or felt stuck in a cycle that doesn't serve you anymore, this one's for you. Here is Kacey Voekler.

Kacey. How are you? Good. How are you? Good. Oh, great to see you. I haven't seen you forever. 

Kacey Voelker: I know it's been a hot minute. You look good. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Thank you. You do too. [00:02:00] I try. Well, you're on a mission. Yeah. Oh, 

Kacey Voelker: cool. I'm so excited. We gotta do this. 

Penny Fitzgerald: I know, me too. Thanks for reaching out and um, yeah, I'm grateful to interview you and grateful to hear your story 'cause.

Okay. So for my audience who's listening, um, and don't know, Kacey and I used to work together at Traveling Vineyard. We were both wine guides, did in-home wine tastings. We both had teams. It was just fantastic, a fantastic job and. Just clicked whenever we, we saw each other Yes. At conventions. And you're still in Minnesota, right?

Kacey Voelker: Yep, yep. Sure am. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Awesome. I'm in Iowa for the summer. 

Kacey Voelker: Okay. I was wondering how that worked. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah, yeah. We're I, we go back and forth. I'm in Florida when it is. If I see snow, I'm outta here.

Kacey Voelker: Nice. Maybe someday I'll get to do that too. 

Penny Fitzgerald: It was, um, yeah, I'm grateful for that opportunity to be like [00:03:00] a snowflake. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. No, I, I get it. I, the really cold weather is not fun. No. The last couple winters have been pretty mild, so. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. And that's very, I'm always grateful for that when that happens, but you just never know.

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. Yeah. And 

Penny Fitzgerald: the older I get to, the more I feel it. Like even in my joints and just, yeah, I get cold so easy now. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. Yep. That and then like, and then the, when it's like hot cold, hot cold, hot, cold, which it seems to be like all year round almost. It's like, yeah, allergies are like bay wire. Oh, 

Penny Fitzgerald: that too.

Yeah. Yeah. 

Kacey Voelker: It's just like, oh my gosh, I just want it to be 80 degrees and warm outside. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Can we do that? That would be wonderful. 

Kacey Voelker: I'm gonna manifest that. Yeah. All the 

Penny Fitzgerald: things. 

Kacey Voelker: Yes. Oh, [00:04:00] funny. 

Penny Fitzgerald: That's cool. Awesome. Okay, so tell us what, what you've been doing. 'cause you started your a coaching business, right?

Kacey Voelker: Yes, correct. So I was, um. Working in a job that I really loved, actually. Really good pay benefits, but like I just felt like something was missing. Like 

Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. This was a corporate job, right? You had like an in office of thing? Yeah, it was like an office. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. Bit for uhhuh a business, so high school graduate owns it and that I went to school with or whatever, and it was great.

I loved working there. I loved the people, the pay, the benefits, but it was just like I, I didn't feel like I was like living my purpose basically, like mm-hmm. 

Penny Fitzgerald: I felt like you get the tugs. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah, like, I'm like, I just, I felt like I needed to be doing more. And when I had went to treatment for alcohol, um, almost three years ago now, I, I knew then that I wanted to be a life coach of some sort.

I didn't really know how to get into [00:05:00] that if I needed to be certified. What, um. What I, kind of, what I wanted to deal with, like whether it was recovery or transformation or self-confidence or health and wellness or whatever, I wasn't really sure. Mm-hmm. So I just kinda let it sit. Yeah. That her and whatever.

And then I, um, Robin had asked me to be on her podcast and it just like clicked. Like she put them. Bugging my ear to like, I, I really wanna be a life coach. This is what I wanna do. So I, 

Penny Fitzgerald: wow. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah, I, um, I signed up under the Jay Shetty program. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was awesome. And it was such a really good experience, and you go really deep into yourself and then how to help others.

So then I knew like, oh yeah, I, I definitely wanna do this. I know now I know how to, I have some tools and uhhuh all that stuff. So then I. I got certified as a life coach, and then I focused more on [00:06:00] self-confidence when I started 

Penny Fitzgerald: Uhhuh. 

Kacey Voelker: But then I'm kind of moving towards like a transformation because I'm so, like I'm creating my own online course for Cool my, yeah, for my life coaching business.

Mm-hmm. Because it's just something that I know works, because it's the process that I took to get to where I am. Mm-hmm. So I'm super excited about it. It's been delayed a little bit. By me for other reasons, but it's, it's getting there. I'm in the process of getting it online and going and stuff. And so it's super exciting.

And then I'll have like other things that people can download and stuff for a lower price point. But like now I've started, um, also doing Plexus, so I'm really big into like gut health and stuff. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Mm-hmm. So, 

Kacey Voelker: um, just because I've been battling weight issues. Health issues, diet issues like motivation, energy, all that fun stuff that, yeah, women get to [00:07:00] be blessed with.

I 

Penny Fitzgerald: totally get it. Okay, so let me back up for just a second if you don't mind. So Robin, you mentioned Robin Hackney. Her podcast is called Spandex and Wine. Yes. I'll put a link in the show notes to that too. 'cause that's super fun that you were on her show and she's so Bri brilliant. She was on my team at Traveling Vineyard and we still work together to do a lot of different things.

So yeah, go check out that podcast and Kacey's, um, interview there too. And, and that's brilliant of her to bring out in you what you had been tugging at or what had been tugging at you. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah, 

Penny Fitzgerald: I feel like it is so common, the women that I work with too. You have this thing that's in your ear or on your shoulder, and just a little tip, tip, tip, you know, like, Hey, hey, hey, there's something more.

Yep. And we allow it to sit because we poo pooh it. We think, oh, I'm not worthy of that, or I'm not ready for that, or I don't know enough yet, or who would listen to [00:08:00] me? And all this imposter syndrome, all these fears that keep us small. Out of our purpose. And it's just, it's sad. It's, 

Kacey Voelker: it is, it's, it's, it is very sad and very unfortunate, and that's exactly what I went through, like mm-hmm.

I felt like my whole life I never felt good enough or I didn't deserve good things. And then at the end of, um, my drinking, I, I was doing things that I wasn't proud of or ashamed of, or, um, guilty of and stuff, and that. Then it made me feel more like, oh, I don't deserve. Good things or to do things that I want, oh, to have my own life coaching business or whatever the case may be.

Like, I just, I just had so much emotional heaviness and it was, everything was so loud and, and that was what triggered me to, um, get sober, was. Everything that was going on inside and the things that I was doing, and, um, I was hurting myself more [00:09:00] than others, but I was also hurting others. So it was just kinda like, Nope, get sober.

And then after that, then when I was on Robin's thing and it just kind of like, my mom was in the hospital at the time and I just felt like, oh, this way I can. If I quit that job, I can focus on getting certified. I can focus on my parents and stuff like that. And, and yeah. So then it just, all that all worked out and then my mom ended up passing.

But I think having the life coach stuff and um, friends and healthy relationships just really helped me get through that. And so it's like I want others. To feel worthy and enough and that they deserve good things. So, because once I was able to forgive myself and see my worth, it just, everything just opened up and that's what I want to help others do.

Penny Fitzgerald: Wow. Can [00:10:00] can I ask you a little bit more about that? If I ask you something that's like, you don't feel good about it? Oh, I'll tell you. I just let know. Okay, good, good, good. I don't wanna, you know. Yep. Make you feel anything other than this is, yeah, no, yeah, no problem. Cool. Okay, so the, you are working for Traveling Vineyard, you're doing in-home wine tastings, and are you having this struggle feeling like I shouldn't be drinking while this is while you're working for traveling Vineyard?

Kacey Voelker: Yes. That was actually one of the reasons why I had stopped doing wine tastings was because, oh. I was, I wasn't focusing on like the fun aspect and like sharing the wine and like all the knowledge that I did have about the wine, I was more focusing towards the end of that career. I was more focusing on drinking and then I would unfortunately.[00:11:00] 

Drink and drive, and it was just like, no, I just, oh, yeah. I like, it 

Penny Fitzgerald: was more about the buzz and the effect. Yeah. Other than the, and numbing everything that was experience. Yeah. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. It was, it was all about numbing everything that was going on inside my brain. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Oh, wow. It 

Kacey Voelker: was the actual experience sharing the wine, the knowledge and that kind of thing.

Uhhuh. Yeah. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Okay. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Yep. So how did you. I mean, did you, were you in therapy? Were you talking to somebody that was encouraging you to understand what was happening? 

Kacey Voelker: Um, I was in therapy. Yep. Um, I am a very open and proud, um, person for therapists like I. I, I believe they do an amazing job. So, yeah. Um, there's no 

Penny Fitzgerald: stigma around it or shouldn't be Yeah.

Mental anymore in the age. Yeah. Mental 

Kacey Voelker: health. Yeah. It's really important. It's 

Penny Fitzgerald: health. It's health. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. Yep. Um, and so I had my [00:12:00] therapist and then I also, um, had some really good friends and one of 'em, his name is Nick. He, um, he just, I had a conversation with him one day on the phone, and he just like opened up, like how.

How he made me see like how much I had been drinking and what it was doing to me. And it wasn't the first time we had talked about it like we've, 'cause he's in recovery and it was just like everything and how drinking was affecting my relationships with my friends, my family, my daughters, myself. Like everything that just was like, he was just.

Open and honest and said, I really think you would benefit from going to this treatment center. And so I called them the next day and 

Penny Fitzgerald: Wow. 

Kacey Voelker: Worked it all out and everything just lined up perfectly. Like, and I'm one of the people, it's like, go big or go home. So it was like, mm-hmm I'm either all in on this or I'm not doing it.

And I had kind of been thinking [00:13:00] about getting help before, but I didn't wanna give up. Fun, Kacey. 'cause that's, that's who I had been. I didn't really know who I was without. 

Penny Fitzgerald: You 

Kacey Voelker: didn't 

Penny Fitzgerald: know if you were gonna still be fun, Kacey. Yeah. Like, okay. 

Kacey Voelker: Nobody wants to hang out with me if I'm not fun. Right. So like, that was a really big thing.

Wow. I was like, I was so worried about what other people were gonna think and that I was gonna lose all my friends and stuff like that. So, um. Finally when I had that conversation with Nick, it was just like, no, it's, I got two, two girls. Um, I was single mom. Um, I had gotten divorced and I, I just was like, Nope, it's time.

So I checked myself in and I. Been sober ever since and Wow. Good for you. Yeah. Making better choices. I mean, we all still make mistakes, we're, of course. Yeah. But yeah, so it's just been a really, really good journey. And like, it's brought me closer to like, Robin, and like, it's just crazy how I, I think God [00:14:00] puts people in your path and like things just line up.

So like, yeah. It's just, it's just been a really great journey and just to learn. More about myself with the life coaching stuff and um, now I'm focusing on like more health and wellness and getting healthier for myself and my kids. Mm-hmm. And, um, after watching my mom go through her, um, health issues and passing away, it's just like, I, I wanna live in the moment and be as healthy as I can basically.

Penny Fitzgerald: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 

So 

Kacey Voelker: that's basically the journey that I have now been on. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Wow. Wonderful. Yeah, well it's, it's all about the people and it's about the experiences and in the right timing. Yeah. You know, I mean, everything happens for a reason. We have these people in our lives. You know, when we go through a transformation like that or something that's big, when we wanna follow that [00:15:00] poll towards our purpose, sometimes it means getting rid of or changing some things about ourselves that.

We know. So it's comfortable. Um, people in our lives who maybe not are the best influence because they're fun and we're comfortable around them. They don't judge us, you know? Did you, did you go through any of that where you had to like really change your surroundings, change the people around you and like, really?

Yeah. 

Kacey Voelker: Um, in recovery, people, places and things is a really big. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Okay 

Kacey Voelker: thing when it comes to recovery. Uhhuh. So yeah, Uhhuh, I had to, I had to remove some toxic friendships and it, you know, it, it was hard, but mm-hmm. It had to be done and I had never really had boundaries. So that was, that was really, 

Penny Fitzgerald: oh, 

Kacey Voelker: was putting up boundaries and, um, deciding who I.

Wanted to keep in my life and not keep in my life, which I hope that doesn't sound [00:16:00] horrible, but like 

Penny Fitzgerald: No, it's, it's real. It's raw. Yeah. And it's, um, you, you know, you have to protect yourself. You have to protect your girls. Yeah. You have to protect your energy and you have a, a bigger purpose than, 

Kacey Voelker: yeah. And it was, it, it was just so, it was draining with, you know, some people.

And so it was just like, Nope, I. This is what I gotta do. And um, and then I also went through like the, the thing where, so I'm in a small town and, um, like going out, it would just bring back so many. Like bad memories. So like for a while I just kind of became a hermit, it felt like. But you know, I still had my like inner group of friends and mm-hmm.

Stuff like that. But it was just like to go out and see people, it was just, it was hard 'cause it was like, it would remind me of things that I didn't really wanna re remember, but like, but even like the friends and stuff, it's like you still miss the [00:17:00] times that you had with them. 'cause you, yeah, you had really good fun times, but.

Probably weren't the best things, I guess, and if, and then it just made, just makes you think like, if I had removed alcohol from that situation, would I have even been friends with them or would you know mm-hmm. Things like that. Little things like that. Mm-hmm. It just makes you think like, I still miss, like, I'm, I'm still like jealous of like my friends that can go and have like a glass of wine because.

Penny Fitzgerald: Oh, that 

Kacey Voelker: mine was a big part of my life for mm-hmm. How many years? So, like, I miss just having a glass of wine or taking a bath and having a glass of wine. But I know that I can't, I can't do that. 'cause it's, one just doesn't work for me. It's, it's way more, and then it's just, yeah. So I just know that I can't.

Even have that, but I can now be around people that drink. Like, at first it was really hard. Mm. Mm-hmm. But now it, it doesn't, it doesn't bother me. [00:18:00] Like I, I miss some of the things, but I don't miss. The hangovers and the cost and like, but I miss Oh, right. Like for us with traveling vineyard, like I really miss the, um, like the conventions and like seeing Yes.

And the team aspect stuff. So, so much fun. Yes. It, and it was, and like, so like Plexus is bringing that back for me. So that's been Oh 

Penny Fitzgerald: yeah. 

Kacey Voelker: Huge benefit and stuff. And then like, and now it, it just seems like I'm. I feel a lot more confident on the path that I'm taking. Like I felt really lost back then and I don't feel lost anymore.

Penny Fitzgerald: Mm. Yeah. That's so important. Like just not only for yourself, but that community that comes with doing something together and working towards common goals and Yeah. Celebrating each other. Like I remember, um. The end of every month, the last two days of every month would be just frantic. Yeah, [00:19:00] 

yeah. 

You know?

Yeah. Um, I'm working towards x, y, z goal. Or these team members, you'd be helping them. Like, have you tried this? And what about, you know, just working together to make it happen And Yeah. That's fun. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. It was. That was, that was something I, and I think that's part of the reason, like I. I thought maybe I needed to have like the alcohol or the wine, but it's, I, I don't think it was that, I think it was, I was missing, I was missing the friendships and the, the team and yeah, that aspect of helping people reach their goals and stuff.

And so now with my life coaching and Plexus is like, it's all coming back together with the alcohol removed, but like I don't have anything against people that drink. I'm like, good for them. I'm glad they that. They do and they get to, and like, you see all these new things coming out and it's like, oh, you know, like, it's just crazy.

It's like, oh, I bet you that would've been good, but I'm, [00:20:00] I'm good with not trying it. So, yeah. Yeah. It's, it's just been a very interesting journey. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Well, I, I, I can understand that and, you know, I've talked to a lot of, um, brilliant women who are not, um, they've given up alcohol or have not ever some of them.

Mm-hmm. Um. A lot of mocktails, first of all are having a huge moment. Yep. I made one for our, our here. Oh, fun. Yeah. So mocktails, kombucha, I hear a lot, you know. Oh yeah. Even, um, like sparkling waters with all the flavors that are available are quite festive. Yes. 

Kacey Voelker: Yep. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. Do you have a go-to, 

Kacey Voelker: I tried to give up pop too, which I've actually been doing really good. Or soda or coke or whatever you wanna call it. Wherever you're at. Yeah. But like, um, I, I really love, um, you know, that Ice, or carbonated water. 

Penny Fitzgerald: I've seen that. Yeah. 

Kacey Voelker: Well, they have it [00:21:00] in a can now with caffeine.

Oh, a little bit of caffeine, but, so instead of drinking Diet Mountain Dew or Diet Coke, I, now, I drink that as like my go-to if I'm not drinking water. But since I'm trying to get healthier, I've been putting more water into my day. And then I love the, there's a crystal light peach, mango green tea packet that, yeah, that's like my go-to for water.

But then now with the Plexus stuff, I've, I've really liked. Um, the, the pink drink or whatever. And then I did just make a pink creamsicle is what it's called, so, oh yeah. So it's the pink drink and then, um, unsweetened almond milk. So, um, and ice. Yeah. And vanilla. That's super easy and it's something that you could add alcohol to.

Like if you wanted to add, 

Penny Fitzgerald: if you wanted to zip it up. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah, yeah. Like spice it up, go for it. But yeah, it's just so, um, I have a friend too [00:22:00] that, you know, she'll, she likes to try different mocktails, so it's like, I don't know, it's just kind of a fun thing that I could see myself getting into is just experi with all the kinds of mocktail recipes or, yeah, carbonated water, I think.

The flavored stuff you could pretty much do anything with, but 

Penny Fitzgerald: mm-hmm. 

Kacey Voelker: But yeah, so it, yeah, it was weird finding a goat. I there I have tried some of the alcohol free wines. And stuff, but nothing compares to good old. Yeah. Traveling vineyard wines like just not the same. It didn't come back the same memories.

Penny Fitzgerald: No, I'm sure not. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. So yeah, the memories of traveling Vineyard are just. Near and dear to my heart. Just 'cause it brought a lot of, a lot of good things. So, 

Penny Fitzgerald: yeah. Well I'm excited for you about Plexus 'cause um, the community. I can just imagine I, you know, [00:23:00] being in any direct selling company, you hear a lot of people poo-poo it or you hear a lot of people say, oh, it's a pyramid.

Okay. First of all, it's not, it's an, yeah, it's an actual, it's an legitimate business plan. 

Kacey Voelker: Yes. 

Penny Fitzgerald: It's just a few bad apples that make it sound, you know, yep. Can make it, you know, can really hurt the rest of the people in the industry. And it's just unfortunate in that, but Yep. Um, it is a valid form of. You know, changing your life.

I mean, as a person who is a representative of those companies, you have the opportunity to work for yourself. Yep. But you have a support system behind you of, you know, yeah. This community that we're talking about. It's very important. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. Yeah. Like I, I, I love, I'm a big, huge supporter of network marketing, direct sales.

Um. Just 'cause I have been doing it for so many years that, and it is a nice little, whether you're doing it [00:24:00] full-time or side gig or whatever, like it, it does help people pay for daycare, for groceries, absolutely. For everything. And I've experienced it myself, so. Mm-hmm. Um, yeah, I, I just. And like we had said, it's the community and having people behind you.

And, um, I've always been blessed with really good jobs or really good bosses. Um, very supportive people in my life. But I do know, like friends and family that have ones that they don't have the support in their corporate job or whatever they're doing. They, you know. Mm-hmm. Or there's too much competition or whatever where, I don't know, I just, I, that's one thing I love about.

The direct sailing aspect was like with traveling Vineyard and what now with Plexus, it's like you just have a community of like-minded people that mm-hmm. Are there to support each other and not go after each other, so, 

Penny Fitzgerald: yeah. Exactly. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. We're not fighting fake ones. Yeah. Yeah. We're not fighting for the next [00:25:00] promotion, so, 

Penny Fitzgerald: no, no.

Or in competition with each other 'cause it's, yeah. Yeah. It's all about helping each other. Supporting each other. Yep. Well, and that's really led you to your coaching thing too, where, so you, you kinda have the best of, 'cause you're still working a corporate job, right? 

Kacey Voelker: Um, I actually am working a, like full-time job at a grocery store as a produce manager.

So. Nice. Yeah. I get to see people and it's something I don't have to bring home with me like. Then it gives me the time to work on Plexus and my life coaching. So this is so 

Penny Fitzgerald: cool. 'cause okay, for you, you have this three-legged stool now that's really, wow. So you've got, you know, you've got a little bit of stability with a corporate ish job or you're, you know, doing the thing.

Yep. Then you also are, you've got the community and the supportive structure with Plexus, and then you also have this [00:26:00] entrepreneurship, this coaching business that you're building for yourself where you're, you know, you can, yeah, really do a lot with all of that. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. That's 

Penny Fitzgerald: fantastic. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah, and it keeps me like happy and level and sane and, 

Penny Fitzgerald: mm-hmm.

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. It's like the best of all the worlds. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. Well, and everybody takes a different path. I've, I've talked to a lot of entrepreneurs and it's, it's fantastic that we're building something for ourselves. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. 

Penny Fitzgerald: And it's also scary because you don't have the, um, you know, the steady income. Nobody else is telling you what to do.

Nobody else is, you know, it's a blessing and a curse. Right, because you're Yes, 

Kacey Voelker: absolutely. You're doing it 

Penny Fitzgerald: for yourself. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. And it's, it's crazy 'cause like. I am so much more stronger and confident now than I've ever been in my life. And so when I would run into people and they'd like bash something or, you know, it didn't quite meet their expectations.

Like, for example, when I was working [00:27:00] at one day, I was working at the store, I had someone come up and, oh, you pretty, you've really fell far from, you were working up at this job or whatever, getting paid more and whatever, and now you're here. And it was like, 

Penny Fitzgerald: I wait. 

Kacey Voelker: I Exactly right. I'm like. First of all who said it?

I was like, well, whatever, you know, and then I'd go, no. I go, I love working here. And plus that person doesn't know that I'm doing life coaching or anything else, so don't judge me like, 

Penny Fitzgerald: oh my God. Yeah, and it's somebody had. The balls. Yeah. Or whatever to say that to you. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. How 

Penny Fitzgerald: dare they? 

Kacey Voelker: Small, small town, but I just, you know, small 

Penny Fitzgerald: thinking.

Yeah, 

Kacey Voelker: exactly. And normally that stuff would just drive me absolutely nuts. I'd get all defensive, I'd blow up or whatever, or run to the back and be angry, but I was just kinda like, dude, you have no [00:28:00] idea what I've went through, why I'm here. You've never walked in my steps, right? So you don't get to judge me.

And that I just rolled it off and I'm like, no. Like I, I have made mistakes and I probably did give up some, um, better opportunities, but they've all brought me here and I have, you know, my house and I have, uh. Partner and I have my girls and I have, you know, my car, and like I have the food in my, like I'm paying my bills.

I'm, I'm doing everything I can and everything that I want to do for my life. I'm not having to meet other people's expectations. I'm not having to do what other people are telling me to do. Like as long at the end of the day, like I tell my coaching clients, like at the end of the day, I'm the one that I need to make happy, like.

I mean, I'm not here to, I'm not put on the earth for like everybody [00:29:00] else like this. This is me. This is my life. These are my decisions, and at the end of the day, I have to be happy with what I, 

Penny Fitzgerald: you have to hold your head up high. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. And I can finally do that for the first time in. Like, 

Penny Fitzgerald: good for you, 

Kacey Voelker: for you whatever years.

Penny Fitzgerald: Good for you. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Really, when you think about it, how sad for that dude. To project his own fears Yeah. On you, you know? Yeah. I mean, how sad that was that he, he must be very, very wounded himself. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. And he was older, so it was just like, yeah. Things are different nowadays, but like, don't the, the comments people make without thinking it, it.

It's just like, wow. Mind blown, but yeah, whatever. But it also shows me like I'm so glad I'm not like that. Like I'm a much happier person. Like 

Penny Fitzgerald: you're pulling yourself up. Yeah. And, [00:30:00] and with the idea of supporting others and following your purpose Yeah. And serving yourself and others. And being the best you, you can be.

And that is so much to be, to hold your head up for. And so be so proud. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. Thank you. I am 

Penny Fitzgerald: good. 

Kacey Voelker: It's just like, it, like it brought me to this, this with you. Like it, it like it brought me to things with like Robin and now Robin and I are on the same Plexus team. Like it, it is just. Like I said, it's amazing how people are put in your path and like, I don't know, I just, I, I mean, yeah, there are some things that I probably wish I would've done differently, but really, like, it wouldn't have brought me to where I am today.

Like everything I've done or the lessons that I've learned, or, you know, the mistakes that [00:31:00] I made, like it wouldn't, it wouldn't have helped me become. Stronger, more confident, more sure of my path. Mm-hmm. And journey. And it's helped me with parenting. I'm really open with my girls. Um, yeah. It's just, it's just crazy to think about what things could have been like and what they are.

So, but like I said, at the end of the day, if I'm happy with my decisions, then mm-hmm. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Took a 

Kacey Voelker: very long time to love myself, so, oh 

Penny Fitzgerald: my gosh. Yeah. Especially with, you know, I, the small town I grew up in a very small town too, and I can look back and see the community and it's a great community.

But you know, if you, if you were in that situation where you fall into a routine and you have this circle and you're [00:32:00] in the bar every night, or you are. Hanging out and Yeah. That's, that becomes so easy to just fall into, I can see where that could happen. 

Kacey Voelker: Mm-hmm. 

Penny Fitzgerald: And, and just Yeah. That you've come outta that.

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. And change is really hard. Like, yeah, no doubt. And I don't, I don't judge people that don't wanna change. Like, it is hard. And when you get used to doing things the way that you've been doing them for so long or whatever, like mm-hmm. Yeah. Like maybe. You know, I, like I said, I don't, I don't judge 'em.

Like I, I used to be very judgmental, but now, like, going through what I've gone through and seeing the things that I've seen and doing the things I've done, it's just like I look at people completely differently now than I did. Mm-hmm. I was drinking. Um, but I, I just, I just want to help people see that.

If they're unhappy or if they feel stuck in their [00:33:00] job or their weight or whatever it is that they can change. And I just wanna be able to provide them with tools to help them change. I'm not gonna do it for 'em, I'm just gonna, I just wanna help guide them and be there for them. Yeah. Their big cheerleader or their coach or you know, whatever friend, accountability partner.

Penny Fitzgerald: Nice. Yeah. Well, and being, you know, change is hard or it's even hard to say, or hard to think about. And a a lot of people, you know, when you go through a big change like that, it's, it. It's common to hear, oh, you're starting over, or I'm starting over. Well, you're never starting over. You have all of the experiences that have brought you to this point.

You've got all of that, those life lessons, you've got that purpose calling you. You've got all these things that are working together to lift you up to the next best version of yourself. So it's not starting over, it's just, you [00:34:00] know, expanding and growing. Yeah. 

Kacey Voelker: Yep. Exactly. Growing. So. It's, I mean, change is good and it's, and it's mm-hmm.

Mostly usually healthy. So, and I've been through a lot of, so that's why I did, I created my own, um, coaching business, actually, transformative pathways and, and like IS with the online course. It's just basically the process that I walked through myself. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Okay. 

Kacey Voelker: So, like, I know that it works, it's just. Whether or not the person wants to put the work into it mm-hmm.

To get them to where they wanna be. So, 

Penny Fitzgerald: what kind of person would you be working with? 

Kacey Voelker: Um, honestly, it's one of those courses that's kind of universal. So whether, whatever your goal is to, um, you know. Cut back on drinking, losing weight, eat healthy, um, gain more confidence, more motivation, energy.

Really it's, what I've put into it is really [00:35:00] kind of like I said, universal. It could be used for anybody. I mean, I. Ideally when I started it, it was more like self-confidence, but then as it progressed, it was just kinda like, mm-hmm. Well, honestly, I, I've used these tools in all my stuff, but keeping me sober or, um, keeping me motivated to work out or eat better or, you know, whatever, like, um, and confidence, like, so really it's, it, it really is universal and basically, you know, you.

And just like with direct sales or anything you like, you get out of it what you're gonna put into it. So if you're willing to do the work, you're gonna see the results. So, um, yeah, I mean, I, I love it and I'm actually, I. I've just been a little nervous to like, finish it up. I don't know if it's just 'cause it's my baby and it's like, oh my gosh.

Once it's done and up, it's like I'm done working on it and whatever. But it's just, I don't know, it's like I, that's 

Penny Fitzgerald: only beginning, [00:36:00] just the beginning 

Kacey Voelker: and, and maybe it's a little bit fear of failure, but honestly like, um, out of how many people in the world, I'm like, it's. It's probably gonna help at least, I mean, it helped me, so it'll probably help some people, but it's just one of them things that's like, yeah, but what if nobody wants it?

Or like, who am I to? Like, 

Penny Fitzgerald: there's that imposter syndrome again. 

Kacey Voelker: Exactly. So it's like whatever. But no, I, I just, I love it. I, I really just need to finish it, get it posted online and yeah. So. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Awesome. Well, an action will bring clarity. You know, you, you'll put it out there, you'll mark, you'll tell people what it's about and, and help people understand it and answer questions.

And I think the more, more people you talk to, the more you put it out there, the more you'll see, okay, I could tweak this a little bit about it. Yeah. In the next time. Or I could do this, or I could take it this [00:37:00] direction, or, yeah, you'll have a lot of clarity. 

Kacey Voelker: And I, and like I said, it's definitely helped me become more confident and stronger in, in my purpose and path.

So, but it's also lead led me to, um, Robin and Plexus and like my health and wellness journey. So now, like I have all these different ideas of what I can do and the, the nice thing about it's, it's my, my business, it's my baby, so I can do, yeah. Whatever I want. Yeah, 

Penny Fitzgerald: right. You can incorporate both. Yeah. You can like weave it together and Yeah, 

Kacey Voelker: so it's just, it's just exciting to know that you have this, this thing that you can do whatever you want with, and 

Penny Fitzgerald: Uhhuh 

Kacey Voelker: people will take it or they'll leave it and as long as it's helped you or one other, or whatever you want the goal to be like.

Yeah. So, 

Penny Fitzgerald: and if they choose no right now, maybe later is better. And you know, I mean, you just never know what someone's tiny. Not [00:38:00] ever. Yeah, 

Kacey Voelker: exactly. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Exactly. So, um, so for those of us that don't know, I mean, I've heard of Plexus. Robin has told me a little bit about it, and I've seen online, um, people drinking a pink drink.

Yeah. But can you tell us a little bit more about the company and about what, what's this pink drink thing all about? 

Kacey Voelker: So they're really big on gut health, and that's what draw, that's what drew me to it. So, um, but yeah, I guess the pink drink is their, their big thing. Um, right now, like, uh, triplex is what I use.

So like, it's like probiotics helping your gut because if you, if you do any like, research on gut health mm-hmm. It is amazing what. Your gut all affects, like it's your second brain and it affects everything. It can affect, like things that I've read, it can affect your anxiety, depression, um, everything. So it's like they really focus on the gut [00:39:00] health aspect.

And then they have like this reset, which is like a three day, um. Uh, kinda like a cleanse, that it's a really gentle way to just reset your metabolism and your cravings and stuff like that. So, um, but yeah, mostly big, really big into gut health, and that's what drew me to it, is just because, okay, I've had stomach problems for like ever and it's, you know, wow.

So a lot of people are like, well, doesn't it just make you go to the bathroom all the time? And it's like. No. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Okay. Well, and there's a difference right? Between like probiotics and prebiotics and mm-hmm. You know, that whole gut biome Yeah. Balance, yeah. Microbiome 

Kacey Voelker: and, and everything. And I'm, I'm by no means a professional or a doctor or whatever.

I just have gone by what I've researched. And even before Robin, um, told me about Plexus, I had been interested in gut health anyway. Mm-hmm. So, um. And the [00:40:00] mind's gut connection or whatever. So like when she told me more about this, like the reason I tried it was 'cause my energy was really low. I was going to bed by like 6, 7, 8 at night.

Not, 

Penny Fitzgerald: oh my gosh. Yeah. 

Kacey Voelker: Not focusing on like getting my life coaching stuff going. I was tired during the day at work. I was drinking like energy drinks and eating stuff. That's. It's just not good for you 'cause you're on the go, so, you're eating junk or whatever. Mm-hmm. And so then I, when I tried this and like had been reading more on the gut health aspect stuff like, it just, I saw results almost instantly.

Like my energy, like I was up past. At nine, 10 o'clock, I'm like, oh my God. Like I'm actually getting stuff done. Like I'm being productive. Um, some so like in some weight loss for me and stuff, and like I just feel so much better. I don't feel so, and as a woman you'll probably understand [00:41:00] this and most people would anyway, and probably meant to, but like when you feel so like heavy and you're just like, ugh, or blah or, or whatever, like I don't have that.

That heavy bloaty feeling. Yeah. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Well I think you've, you know, some people, you know, you can do an elimination diet or whatever and try and figure out what is it that bugs me or that is not working well in my system. Yeah. Like for me, carbs, simple carbs are, I feel that that heaviness Yeah.

After. 

Kacey Voelker: Yep. Yep. And that's, yeah, this is, and this like helps you, so like with the reset, which is really nice is once you've done this, that three day reset that they have, like you can just start putting healthy 

Penny Fitzgerald: foods. Mm-hmm. 

Kacey Voelker: And so that you're not like my sugar cravings have, I was getting up in the middle of the night like.

Making a round from the bathroom to my fridge to eat a snack or a cupcake. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Oh wow. Or 

Kacey Voelker: whatever. And like since I've [00:42:00] started, um, pl, like I haven't had those crazy sugar c cravings. 'cause when you give up alcohol, like your body craves all that sugar, I. And oh, so like, I would eat like Nerds, candy and Mike and Ikes and Oh, stuff like Crazy Lake.

That was like my, my life. And it was like, okay, this is, I, I, something's gotta change. So, um, when I finally, um, Robin was talking to me about this stuff and then I tried it and it just, it went really good. It was the triplex that I started with, and then I just did the reset, um, last month and I lost seven pounds.

Holy buckets and three inches from that, from like the bloat and yeah, it was really, yeah. So it just like, so that's why I like it because I know, I know that it works and I, that's what excites me about it is like with traveling Vineyard, I, I was, I. Good with that because I like the wine and I drink the wine and I could teach people about it.

Like, or any company that I've been [00:43:00] with, like tastefully Simple, like you, like the products you use, the products, it's, you know, it's a no brainer. Sell themselves. Like you're not really in it for the sales I'm in, I'm in this to feel better. Um, and to help others. Feel better, and it just kind of just goes right in line with my coaching because it's like health and wellness confidence.

Usually if you Yeah. Feel good on the inside and out, your confidence is a little bit better. So like I just, I just love that it all like ties together and it just mm-hmm. Excites me, so. That's 

Penny Fitzgerald: awesome. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah, they're, they and I, you know, and you know, a lot of people are like, oh, it's. Pyramid or multi-level marketing or, you know, it scares people.

Mm-hmm. And it's like, no, it's like it's a legit company. They've been in business for how many years. Like they're not. And if you would look at their, um, compensation plan, like it's, it's not a scheme, it's people are making their live like this is, this is what they do. This is their. They're everything.

And it's a legit, like, [00:44:00] it's not, you're not scamming people, you're not, you're helping people heal themselves. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Mm-hmm. 

Kacey Voelker: And providing your, your how, however you wanna put your income or whatever. So 

Penny Fitzgerald: yeah. Supplemental. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's, it's interesting too, or, or a little, um, challenging for those of you in the, in the Plexus world.

I feel like because it's medical, you know, it's more, it's helping you on the inside. And so that's a little, it's a layer of complexity to it where you're having to explain things and if you're not a doctor Yep. It's difficult to, you know, I'm sure the company provides you with, um, materials that you can provide.

Yep, yep. 

Kacey Voelker: What we can and can't say and, yeah, exactly. And that I think is one of the things that always scared me about, um, supplement companies or things like this was 'cause it was like. I don't wanna give somebody the wrong information. Obviously you always wanna consult with [00:45:00] your doctor, but like, um, like I was afraid.

Yeah, I was afraid that, oh, it's, you know, supplements or whatever, but, and it, but now learning more with it and growing with it, it's just like, it's, it really is something that. Isn't as scary, I guess. Mm-hmm. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Like, 

Kacey Voelker: it's actually more exciting to me just because I am really open to learning more stuff. But like, but yeah, I still get, you know, pushback on, oh, well I'd, I have to, you know, what did doctor, what does my doctor say?

Or whatever. And a lot, honestly, a lot of testimonials and stuff I've read, wait. There a lot of doctors are on board with it for people. Mm-hmm. Which was really reassuring to me. And like, just some of their, um, people that do their training calls and stuff, it was just really, um, reassuring to watch them talk about like the products and stuff too.

Yeah. So like all natural and like, you're not treating your body full of junk and you don't [00:46:00] have to worry about, oh, I stopped taking it now what? Like. Is am is it all gonna come back tenfold? Or whatever, you know, whatever. Right. Yeah. So, but again, it is scary just 'cause it is. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. 

Kacey Voelker: Supplements and stuff, but, 

Penny Fitzgerald: and in the past there have been other companies that were not as reputable, you know, and that are some representatives and leaders that were not as reputable on some of those other health and wellness kind of companies, where they'd make, you know, kind of outrageous claims.

Especially during like COVID, oh, this'll cure COVID. No. 

Kacey Voelker: See your research. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Have a seat. Yeah. Listen to an actual scientist if you're Yeah, yeah. Let's not there. 

Kacey Voelker: No miracle care for everything. I mean, right. If there was. People would be trying to sell it and make a bank off of it, but Right. It's, it's really important that people, you know, they, you, you do [00:47:00] your research, you be open-minded, um 

Penny Fitzgerald: Yep.

And check with your doctor if you're concerned about it. Exactly. They've probably heard of Plexus, and if they haven't, you can provide 'em with Link or give them Yep. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. The sheet 

Penny Fitzgerald: that says all the information and, 

Kacey Voelker: yep. And like in my mind too, like, so I have a pituitary tumor and I have high blood pressure.

High cholesterol according to the PMI charts. I'm obese, which, whatever, but like, it's things like that that I want. That's cute. Yeah. Ever fat with a pH, whatever. I don't care. Um, but no, like I, I know I am never going to be a size zero. And super thin and whatever. That's the, my body's just not made that way.

Yeah. But I am doing this for me just to feel better, have the energy, motivation, the mental clarity has been a huge thing. Um, I'm not so achy like I used to get, you know, like [00:48:00] working out or whatever. You get really sore, whatever. Oh yeah. I don't have that achiness, like if I sit for too long or something and you get up in your knees or whatever.

your knees Preach crack and whatever. Yeah. Like I don't, I, I don't have that stuff and that's what I was looking for and I had spent years looking for some, I've tried supplements from, I don't know how many different companies. Um, and finally this is actually been working really well for me. So yeah, it was That's awesome.

I'm glad I had an open mind and decided to try it. And that Robin shared mm-hmm. The information with me, so. It's been going really good. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Okay, so can I ask you, what's a pituitary Pituitary tumor? Tumor. Okay. 

Kacey Voelker: Okay. So your pituitary gland is located at the base of your brain. Okay. And it messes with your hormones.

It can. Awesome. Yeah, I know, right? Like and that's, and I found this out because when I was first trying to get pregnant. I couldn't get pregnant and they were gonna do [00:49:00] the in vitro or whatever. It was like, yeah, all this stuff. And I'm just like, whatever. And well, finally, they decided to do this big, huge blood panel thing or whatever, and my, mm-hmm.

My prolactin level was high. And that's how they found that I had this. So I had to do an MRI, and they found this pituitary tumor, and it's tiny. It's like not even as big as a needle. Or a pinhead. Oh, really? Yeah. Tiny little thing. But it was telling my body that I was already pregnant even though I wasn't.

And you can't get pregnant when you're pregnant evidently. So like who knew? Right? Who knew? So anyway, so I had to go on um, meds because they wanted to shrink it and it worked. So these meds worked. Um, and if. Either meds don't work, that they give you the only way to get. Rid of it is through your nose or the base of your brain.

And I'm like, I think we'll try the meds. Check please. [00:50:00] That does just not sound fun to me at all. So yeah. Oh my god, the meds have been good. And then it was actually so good that I got to stop taking the meds for a while, but then I started noticing again like, like hair growth through like tired, like a little bit of headaches.

Stuff like that. And so then I had it checked again and it was high, and now they put me on meds again. And so, um, and the meds help. So in the long run I'm hoping to get off, you know, the high blood pressure, the high cholesterol, the med that I'm on for this pituitary tumor and yeah. But yeah, messes with your hormones.

So it's like, well, no wonder why, like people thought I was crazy. I don't know. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Well, heavens to Betsy, that just seems like, you know, so many. Things are affected by hormones. Yes. And the signals that they send to your body to do X, Y, and Z. And if you have that happening on top of your gut is all over the [00:51:00] place.

Yeah. And 

Kacey Voelker: yeah, is no wonder why a chemical 

Penny Fitzgerald: imbalance and, yeah. Yeah. 

Kacey Voelker: Hot mess. Express.

I'm just a fun, hot mess. Wow. Without the breeze. You are a fun, hot mess. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Aren't we all? Yes. We're in one way or another. Everybody's got something. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah, very true. But yeah, so in a lot of people aren't aware of like pituitary tumors, so it's been kind of interesting. Yeah, because when I say it, they're like, what?

Penny Fitzgerald: I've never heard of it. 

Kacey Voelker: I mean, I've heard of the 

Penny Fitzgerald: pituitary gland, but not that it was possible to have a tumor that 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. And it, it's obviously benign or whatever, but they still, uh, because it can mess up your hormones and everything, like this tiny little thing can wreck so much havoc on your brain.

Like yeah, they obviously wanna take care of it, so, wow. Yeah. But now. Plexus has definitely helped with like the energy and not being so tired and [00:52:00] mental clarity and all that stuff. So it's been 

Penny Fitzgerald: Oh, good. 

Kacey Voelker: Been a blessing to, yeah. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Well, I imagine it would take a long time to get all of that back into balance or all of that to where it should be.

Because you've taken alcohol out. That was, you said three, three years ago. August. It'll be three years. Yeah, three years. Okay. So yeah. And I'm sure that would take some time to regulate and be back. Oh yeah, definitely That and, um, yeah, your gut and the tumor, all of that, I would think would be, yeah. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah.

It was like, and I, I just, I couldn't lose, one of the big things is I just, I couldn't lose weight and it was just like, I'm just stuck. At the scale number, which honestly don't go by your scale, your weight go by measurements. Oh, Uhhuh is what I tell people. Just because your body, you know, bloating, water, whatever can affect Oh yeah.

The weight. But like I just, my measurements weren't moving. [00:53:00] I was, but like the being low energy, like you don't have motivation to do. A whole lot. So they, even the thought of working out. Mm-hmm. And I was really good at working out co consistently, so it was like, oh my God, I need to get my mojo back. Like, what is going on?

Mm. So just like finding something that helps. Me stay focused and like more energy and stuff. It's just been a huge game changer. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Wow. Yeah. Well, and Okay. Can I ask you how old you are? 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. Um, I'm 44, almo 45 in November. Okay. So, 

Penny Fitzgerald: okay, girl. Not to scare you or anything, however, 44 is when I started having perimenopausal 

Kacey Voelker: Yep.

Penny Fitzgerald: Things, yeah. And 60 now, and. Menopause and or past menopause, I guess you technically, chemically, whatever, whatever. 

Kacey Voelker: Not bitter, whatever.

Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah. So there are [00:54:00] all these things, these changes that occur and you just, you feel like you're having an out of body experience because you have no control. I'm like, you can be in the middle of a conversation and all of a sudden be like ringing wet. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. 

Penny Fitzgerald: You know, it's just. It's stupid with two o's is what it is.

Yeah, 

Kacey Voelker: yeah. I know, I know. I have a lot of friends too that are like going through perimenopause and stuff and I, and like maybe I am, I don't know, but like, I try not to like worry too, too much Good. What's gonna do, because that's not gonna help. Yeah, no, I'm like, I'm gonna go through it at some point anyway.

Like, what can I do? Today that's gonna make 

Penny Fitzgerald: me 

Kacey Voelker: get to where I wanna be. Like, what can I do today? I'm gonna focus on that. I'm gonna focus on the positive. That's good. And not the, the, I mean, focusing on. Shit you can't control. It does no good. It causes you so much stress.[00:55:00] 

Penny Fitzgerald: No, it orders it up. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. It's just like you're manifesting the problem. Exactly. By sitting there thinking and that's one exactly reasons why I knew I needed to quit drinking was 'cause. I would just sit there and stew over things that hadn't happened. And it's like, well, what if this happens and then this happens and this, and it just, I couldn't get that, those thoughts outta my brain.

It was just so loud and it was like, okay, I have, this has got to stop. So yeah, that was one of the contributing factors to my getting sober too, was Yeah. So it, it does you no good to sit and worry about things you cannot control. Yeah. So just focus on the today, the here and now like. What can you do today or one small, like if you're looking to change something, just one small baby step.

Mm-hmm. What's one small thing you can do to change? That's very 

Penny Fitzgerald: wise. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. To move you closer to, yeah. Your goal weight or your dream job or your, whatever you're looking for. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Mm-hmm. That little nudge that's pulling towards you or pulling you towards it. Yeah. [00:56:00] I feel like I, okay, so I wanna apologize for, for that cautionary tale.

Kacey Voelker: No worries. 

Penny Fitzgerald: No, we're not gonna manifest that crap. We're not gonna do that. Audience. Do not manifest a hot flash in this moment.

Kacey Voelker: Manifest good things. 

Penny Fitzgerald: That's right. That's right. Yeah. Oh gosh. Kacey, what have I not asked you that you wanna share with my audience? Um,

Kacey Voelker: I don't, I think we've like, covered quite a bit of, quite a bit of ground. Like I just, I feel like one, one tip obviously is the one, like just focused on what you can control and being, being positive has been a huge impact for me. With any of my challenges I have, I've been through two divorces. Um, [00:57:00] alcoholism, you know, health struggles, like everything, like, uh, losing my mom was a big one last year.

Like I still struggle with that a little bit. But if you can find even one small positive for, or three positive things for anything negative going on in your life, like grip onto those positives and just. Keep moving forward and don't get stuck because, so for so long I was just stuck feeling like I was never enough and I could never do good things or like people would never listen to me.

And once you get out of the, that stuckness and you just, you find your confidence and you, you feel like you're on the right path. Like just, just keep going and don't listen to what other people. Think or say or whatever. 'cause then you're gonna stay stuck. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Don't let their limitations argue your [00:58:00] position.

Kacey Voelker: Yep. Just positivity and, yeah. Yeah. Huge thing. Love it. Find motivates you. Find things that. Bring you joy. Like, it's kind of funny 'cause on this journey, like I, I would think back to before I even started drinking, which was when I was 16, so I just, oh my gosh, for like 25 years. I drank for a long time.

Like I would go back to like, what brought me joy then, and I could remember like the, like the music or the to people or the things I would do, like go laying in the sun, like listening to Matchbox 20. I went to Matchbox 20 concerts at the state fair last. Things like that. Like just find the things that brought you joy before, you know, you got to your dark place.

Like that was a huge thing for me. So, and, and now I just, I try not to dwell on little things. Yeah. I still struggle with like, like finance stuff. Like, that's just something I work on every day. Like, I mean, you're always gonna have something, [00:59:00] but if you can focus on like the positive things that keep moving you forward, that's a huge thing.

Penny Fitzgerald: That's great advice. For all of us. Mm. I love it. 

Kacey Voelker: Yep. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Cool. Thank you so much, Kacey. Yeah. This has been amazing. It 

Kacey Voelker: has been. It was so good to talk with you. 

Penny Fitzgerald: You too. Good to catch up. 

Kacey Voelker: Yep, definitely. And you 

Penny Fitzgerald: have, um, do you have a website set up for your coaching business and for your i for your stuff?

Kacey Voelker: I can like send it to you. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Yeah, I'll put it in the show notes for everyone. Yeah. So that they can find you. I'll do that. 

Kacey Voelker: It's a lot easier than me trying to explain the hyphens and the dashes and the Yeah. Yeah. Com. So, yep. I 

Penny Fitzgerald: get it. 

Kacey Voelker: But yeah. Cool. I do have a website and Yeah.

And a Facebook group that anyone can join, so. Yep. 

Penny Fitzgerald: What's the name of your Facebook group? 

Kacey Voelker: Um, that one's just Transformative Pathways Coaching on Facebook, so. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Okay, cool. Yep. Nice. 

Kacey Voelker: Yeah. 

Penny Fitzgerald: Awesome. Well, you look fantastic. You sound fantastic. 

Kacey Voelker: It's so good to talk. 

Penny Fitzgerald: You [01:00:00] too. Yeah. Oh my gosh. Well, okay, so good luck with your three-legged stool.

Yeah. Strength all around. Yes. Love it. Thank you. All good things. Yes. All right, well good luck and will talk with you soon, hopefully. All right, sounds good. Okay, thanks Kacey. Bye.