Offside with Hawes and Maguire
Offside: with Hawes and Maguire is not your typical hockey show. This weekly
45-60 minute show is a potent combination of humour and genuine hockey insights that pushes the envelope.
- Liam is renowned for his photographic memory, lively storytelling, vast hockey knowledge and sometimes over-the-top passion for the game of hockey.
- Chris is known for his unrehearsed humour, contagious laughter and uncanny ability to make even the most serious debates end in boisterous guffaws.
Between the two, there is an infectious enthusiasm and professional chemistry that is evident from the outset. It can only be described as lightning in a bottle.
Offside with Hawes and Maguire
Shootin' the Shot with Ron Duguay, Puck Bunny Sarah Palin and Liam gets fired up.
We kick things off on a somber note, addressing the gravity of recent events in the hockey world, where the specter of serious allegations shadows the sport we all love. It's a candid conversation where we don't shy away from the hard truths, emphasizing the importance of supporting victims and the ripple effects these tragedies have across families and communities. But rest assured, we balance the heavy with the light-hearted, as we bring you tales from back home and a sneak peek at our latest segment, "Shooting the Shot," where we banter with NHL legends about everything from the game to their iconic style.
Strap on your skates and join us for a stroll down memory lane with Ron Duguay, a man whose name conjures images of flowing hair and super models. We chat about the lasting influence of those early years, spinning yarns of the legendary Phil Esposito and the 1972 Summit Series that continue to inspire. From discussing Gallagher's elbow diving into NHL records on the brink of being smashed, to debating Sidney Crosby and Connor McDavid's generational talents, we leave no puck unturned. And not to be missed, Keanu Reeves earns our Zamboni boy of the week salute, as we explore the cinematic universe he could have swapped for a hockey career.
Lastly, we jet over to the silver screen, where Sandra Bullock's feats and Keanu Reeves's action-packed ventures give us a breather from the ice. Let's face it, who could cheat on Sandra Bullock? It's all about the unexpected turns life can take—just like a game of hockey. So tune in, laugh, and maybe even learn a thing or two with us, as we weave through the wins, woes, and wonders of the great game.
It's Offside with Hawes McGuire. Hey, welcome to Offside with Hawes McGuire. I'm Hawes, I'm McGuire. We have got news. We're back. We're back. We're back in Canada. We're back in our Cheers, buddy Cheers to you. By the way, we're back in the basement, kind of where we belong, but we have news. We came back from our trip to Florida where we interviewed a number of people and we're starting a segment of the show. We kind of alluded to it from our poolside thing Chat. A lot of people have fireside chats. We had a poolside chat, though we could have used a fire that night.
Speaker 1:So we have a new segment of our show which is called shooting the Shot.
Speaker 3:Shot. I thought maybe with the show he's going to roll it out anyway. Exactly.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, but it is shooting the shot. It's shooting the shot and where we interview some of the great legends of the NHL, we shoot our shot. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
Speaker 1:That's right, right, so we're taking our shot, ladies and gentlemen, and this is this part so we have on today's episode. We will have the first within the segment of part of our interviews with some of the greats that we met up with down in Florida, and we're going to continue doing this. We'll be heading to Montreal, toronto, boston, and we're going to be interviewing these folks, so it's going to be great. So, that also being said, we came back and the buzz was so big, but we actually have a co-sponsor for that. We're working on a second sponsor for this thing to help finance it, but we have a co-sponsor who you know what this is going to shock a lot of people, but it is a golf course. It's actually Emerald Links, cloverdale Links, anderson Links. It's Jim Patterson has generously decided that he wanted to be a part of this operation.
Speaker 3:Love hockey, love hockey, big hockey fan, big hockey fan, big hockey fan. His son, mark, was always a very good amateur player, very good minor league player, very good amateur player playing some of the top teams around the area here in men's leagues and stuff still plays. And so, yeah, gib comes by it honestly.
Speaker 1:Absolutely Well. So, that being said, it's going to be shooting the shot brought to you by we're not sure which links, but it's certainly one of the links. One of the Patterson links will be sponsoring the show, so let's move on. This is getting boring, so we got to talk about a couple of things. Liam, there's been some stuff in the news. I'd like to kind of get this over with this whole World Junior thing, and I know we'll be talking about it for months and months, and months and months, but for today, the London police have announced that they want five particular players turn themselves in because they're going to be formally charged with sexual assault and something I don't even know what else.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:And so that impacts the Ottawa Senators. You know organization, I think, but as well as a number, because I was wondering last week and try not to say too much I was wondering last week why there was all these kids taking these leaves from their team. Like before this was announced, there was a couple of guys who took an indefinite leave or indefinite leave from the teams and I thought, wow, that's at this time of year, you know what? Maybe someone's sick? Well, it is before the All-Star break, maybe they just want a vacation. I was trying to go through my head and then this came out and it was like, yeah, okay, that's why yeah, I mean I think Carter Hart and Dylan Dubey were the first to take a leave.
Speaker 3:I believe they all came. It all happened very quickly. They were all been contacted, they all took leaves immediately by the time it hit us and we found out yeah, it was with you thinking the same thing, you know just probably something else. Any of that's kind of all either here or there. Now Alex Formington, the first of the five, has checked in with the London Police and you're right, chris, it is something that is going to has the next four go in and are identified and they are undoubtedly the names that we all know because they've taken their leave and then we'll get the next chapter of what probably is going to be a very long story. So, yeah, I certainly don't think it's something necessary for, offside with Hoson McGuire, to roll out and go on indefinitely about on a weekly webcast. However, it did behoove us today to make a comment on it. So what are your thoughts.
Speaker 1:I mean, at the end of the day, your first thoughts on the situation, and we've talked about this offline like way back right. But what are your thoughts on this? Because I have very strong feelings about it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do too. I think you and I have discussed it. Actually, I think we've even talked about it on the show we might have.
Speaker 3:Yeah and maybe even possibly in October I think it may have just been broke. It's a subject made in both because you have a daughter, I have a daughter and actually came up in conversation. I was at the Sen's game on Saturday night and I was drinking in the bar and some guys bought me a pint and we were talking and they asked me about it and I said to them you guys have daughters, and they both said yeah. I said well, you know, I mean, look it, if I trust my daughter implicitly I believe you do yours and if I got a call from the police or the hospital that she had been picked up or taken in because she had been assaulted, then the next day I'm the front page story, like that's just the way it goes.
Speaker 1:This is the thing, so I mean. That being said, you know the parents of this young lady have exercised tremendous restraint in my opinion, cause I don't think that you know they If she even has two parents? Like we. I don't know I don't know the scenario.
Speaker 3:Who she has for legal guardians or whatever. But you know, look, it's well documented that there was an exchange of pretty significant funds and some sort of signing off on this. Well, that was but that was a, but that's a.
Speaker 1:What do you call that Civil Civil case? That's a civil suit that hockey Canada settled on, right, right, and you know, and, and, and ultimately, frankly, that leads to more, you know, more merit to the criminal case. Right, because there's a, there's a bit of an admission of responsibility when it comes to that. Now, all those things that happened.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I don't know that I agree with that, necessarily. I it's, it's our, we don't even want to go there. So here, take this and go away, and if you're happy with this, well, here you go. Allegedly, allegedly 3.4, 3.5 million, allegedly, I don't know. I mean, that's what's out there, certainly the story I, I, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I tell you, if I, if we got 3.5 million dollars, there'd be a couple of hundred grand wasted on hit men.
Speaker 3:Well, I wouldn't take 35 cents from hockey Canada. If that was my daughter, I wouldn't take 35 cents. I would. I would be losing my shit and some something would be happening. Not in a good way, because I'm an idiot, I snap and you know. It just is what it is.
Speaker 1:Well, no but that's a parent, that's a, that's a father thing. You know, we, we are designed to protect our offspring. Yeah, that's what we're designed to do. That's you know. And and you know, and I come across guys who don't, who are not fathers like they. They abandon their kids or they you know what.
Speaker 3:I mean.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, and there are those millions, millions, millions millions. And you know, those dead beats, that's exactly what they are. Sure, that's why they have the term right, that's right, okay, but it's, it's a tough thing to do, so we're going to, we're going to drop this as a dead horse. Yeah, you know, we certainly feel for the young lady, obviously, as far as for for for sure. Whatever and as, far as the boys as well, we also feel for them, because this is a very tough society to negotiate in court of public opinion.
Speaker 3:It's tried them all. Well, exactly. And you look at Logan Mayew and what he went through, you know he was 17,. She was whatever. She was older, yeah, 20 or 21 or whatever and and he got charged, he got convicted, he paid the fine. It was suspensions, obviously suspended, like you missed a year and a half of hockey. He was 17. It was a Snapchat thing the back of her head allegedly allegedly again, I don't know the whole story for sure, but allegedly and and he's been vilified. I mean there's still people his name comes up on on Twitter. There's, there's still a percentage of people who just absolutely go there right away, call him like a sexual predator and and just worse kind of things imaginable, want the kid hung out to dry for the rest of his life and he was 17.
Speaker 3:And you know I don't know what happened in that room. Sort of interrupt.
Speaker 2:Chris.
Speaker 3:And I know you want to move on. I don't know what happened in that room. We had to make a comment on it. I know we don't need to huff and puff and throw our chest out every week and say we're the greatest dads or anything. All I know is I am a parent of a daughter and I know how I would have reacted and I know I trust her implicitly and I believe you trust Grace implicitly, and and and. When I say trust, I mean I believe them totally. If they come back and they come in and tell me look, this happened Like. I had incidents. My, my, my daughter had a couple incidents in school. You know I, as way it was with my wife when I was still married, school had the first chance to clean it up. They didn't clean it up. Then I was coming in and I went in and I straightened out a few of the situations. I didn't come in knocking walls down, huffing and puffing, but I just went in, got to the heart of the matter and and and I think, just accelerated the process a little bit and then kind of put it out there Look, you know, if you don't want to get hurt, don't touch my children. It's as simple as that, and and let's just leave a healthy and happy life.
Speaker 3:What's gone on here is terrible. It's, it's reprehensible if there was anything, but now it's going to go with a due process. You heard the comments out of Foreman's lawyer right away. They're going to defend it vigorously, of course. Of course they're going to say that it's been six years. Somebody ultimately in the back of all this, whether it's the London police or probably hockey Canada additionally, of which every single one of them are gone. That's the other thing I would like to say, chris. Is that for for the gutless pukes out there that, yeah, what do you mean? That left? No, the ones that comment on the still throwing hockey Canada under the bus. They've absolutely cleaned the slate. Well, they did. The person in charge now was a woman.
Speaker 1:Like you know what, and that has its own issues. Okay.
Speaker 3:I mean this whole fucking dressing room policy now, where everybody has to be in the same dressing. Another issue I know, I know, you know what the problem is is they've hired somebody who's woke Okay. I know, I know that doesn't. They had to throw the pendulum way over, though, because of what happened. Well, I know, I know they had to throw it over, but you know what?
Speaker 1:here's the thing I would have. Much rather these guys, whether they, you know, they resigned, but now they're out of it. They resigned, it's over for them, which is basically maybe but, essentially is. In a lot of ways it's kind of like maybe civil cases will raise it.
Speaker 3:I don't, we don't know Like we. We just there's so much we, they're still in there fighting the fight.
Speaker 1:to be honest with you, they should be there holding themselves accountable.
Speaker 3:Well, they had to get out, they were forced out.
Speaker 1:I mean, that was they were forced out, but there's, I don't know there's gotta be a way to hold them accountable as well. If this seems to be something that was a known thing I mean it's a you know if it was known right off the top and the things that they did, which it seems to be, they need to be held accountable. That's, at the end of the day, that's what it is. But all that being said, enough about that. Let's talk about elbows to the head.
Speaker 3:You know, yeah, I can't believe Jacob Truba got suspended again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what we're. That's what I was referring to. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, the elbow to the head, okay. And he got suspended again. Yes, right, that's what I said, folks, after the Gallagher one, I went online, I told I was. I got a pretty good discussion with a couple of guys on Twitter and I entered it by saying look, let's just meet at Liam McGuire's, all by the beer, and do with his face to face, cause it's ridiculous going. I said you guys are in Ottawa, come meet me at Liam's and we'll go. We'll go at this face to face and we'll have some pints and we can sort it out where you can talk like you are right now Exactly exactly.
Speaker 3:And the Gallagher you know who's not known. He's known to be, you know, a troublemaker in front of the net. He goes hard to the net, he gets in with goaltenders. He's a little bit of an instigator type guy, like it's sort of a poor man's Brad.
Speaker 1:Marshall. Well, he's elevated himself to idiot.
Speaker 3:Well, it was an idiot play.
Speaker 1:It's an idiot play. There was no cause for it. Who cares? But he's. But you know what? Who cares? He's a fraction of what he used to be, and so he's trying to make an impact. That's got no bearing on anything, by the way, yeah, but but he's trying to make an impact, and so this I don't. I have no idea what you know. The words that come to mind are what the was he thinking?
Speaker 3:Well, he wasn't clearly, because you know he's a young man.
Speaker 1:He's not a young man. He's a 27 years old. He's a young man.
Speaker 3:He's a young man, he's still an alpha male, he's playing professional sports and he made a terrible mistake and he paid for it, got five games. Five games is not enough. Well, you know, that's. That's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1:I know that's what they gave him, but yeah, that's.
Speaker 3:I mean it was a phone hearing. They didn't even bring them in they didn't even bring them in.
Speaker 3:No, no, it was a phone hearing, which is the max he can give in. A phone hearing is five. So well, don't you like? Pellet got up and skated off the ice Like you had to have been stretchered or everything in the whole nine yards, I mean the end of the day. And then Truba goes around and elbows another guy in the head, tyler Meyers, suspended by the maximum for you know, for hitting Kerlally. I mean every three or four days there's another egregious act in the NHL. I like it's.
Speaker 3:You've got 800 guys are going to play a game this year Big, this is the highest level of the sport and you're going to have occasionally bad intentions. Some things stupid are going to happen, which is why you have the department of player safety. All the joking included in this, by the way. Department of player safety, yeah right. And you know Gallagher does an absolutely stupid play. Was it any worse than Charlie McAvoy's elbow earlier this year? Are you kidding me? You know what McAvoy's was reprehensible. He almost took that guy's head clean off his shoulders, just like Gallagher, and McAvoy got four games. Like, where's the difference in that? I have zero idea where the difference is in that. None, none. And it doesn't matter, chris, because, at the end of the day, what Gallagher did was stupid, absolutely idiotic, and but he has no track record of it, you know. And the other thing I wrote online was nobody remembers this, only me but Chris Simon was suspended for 55 games. Okay, and that was a long time. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:People think throw the book, throw the book at people and things will stop. Well, no, it doesn't. Marty McSorley got a year's suspension five years after Simon. Okay, so he got a year's suspension.
Speaker 1:Well, and you know what? Which respectively ended his career and you know what. And I have to say I disagreed with that. Okay, that level of suspension.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, For a number of reasons. Okay, I mean, obviously you know what I mean. It was a and I know there's a Montreal Canadian guy we're talking about. I don't care, I don't care.
Speaker 3:It's got nothing to do about allegiances. No, if that's either in your mind as a Bruin fan or me as a Hab fan, he was not trying to hit him in the head.
Speaker 1:Who are you talking about now, when he hit? For sure, that's when he got the….
Speaker 3:Oh, but for sure it wasn't with the Habs at the time.
Speaker 1:No, no, but I'm just saying he had been, but you know but the thing is is, when McSorley hit him, he was going… it glanced off his shoulders Like it really did. But anyway, you know what. Well, like, defended all you want. You know the one year that was excessive, you know, in my opinion, But… yeah, But….
Speaker 3:I felt it was too, however, because contact was made with the head, with the stick, and Brasheer went down like he was shot from the grassy knoll Right and all of the other antics that Brasheer pulled in the game in that game Vancouver, boston game they mattered not To me. They took nothing into consideration. Now, brasheer acted like an idiot all game. He's most despised enforcer in the history of the sport.
Speaker 3:Talked to anybody who played in the role in the time period that he's played and he's number one on the list of guys that they hate, and they don't hate each other. These are guys that admire each other because they know you've got to go out and do the job, you know, and if we've got to go tonight, we're going to go…. Hopefully it's a good fight. You're okay, I'm okay. We live to fight another day, but with Brasheer and his antics, he's not well liked in that fraternity, I can tell you. That said, we've kind of morphed off here, but the bottom line is I felt as you did. However, there were countless millions who loved that suspension the same ilk that are jumping on… and they all voted for Trudeau?
Speaker 3:Yeah, probably. And the people that wanted Gallagher to get 20 or 25 games? Do you not understand how this thing?
Speaker 1:works Well. Yeah, not 25 games.
Speaker 3:You can't parachute a new rule in just because it looked like a serious elbow, when one of these a week happens. It happens every week. You know, you gutless pukes who comment on social media. It's such bullshit. You guys know nothing about the game, nothing. You couldn't skate across this friggin' hall, this floor here, and you think you know the game.
Speaker 3:Because Gallagher throws an elbow and you want him suspended for whatever late the time you think is right when the department…. Look, there's a hierarchy involved. We may agree or disagree with it, but that's the way it goes. I wrote he's going to get five. This was before they announced it in a phone hearing. I said he may get seven. Then they announced a phone hearing, which means maximum five.
Speaker 3:It's a horrible elbow, a brutal, cheap shot, absolutely idiotic. But he's never done that before. He has no history of that and it doesn't excuse what he did, but that he got basically the max that he should have gotten. He should have no problem with the five games, especially when Charlie McEvoy got four earlier this season for coming across with a wing out from 50 feet back. Come on, boom. Are you kidding me? I mean it's….
Speaker 3:Guys, listen, here's the final word from me on this. I'll throw it back to Chris because, just like the World Junior thing in London, I don't think we need to beat this much further either. But if this is really where, if this is the hill you want to die on, find another fucking sport to watch Seriously, like seriously. Take off your girdles and watch another sport. It's ridiculous if you're going to continue to cry every time there's an egregious act on the ice. When there's one a week, there's one a week. These are alpha males in their 20s playing the highest level, the most competitive environment and the most athletic group of men playing this sport in the world. Bad things are going to happen. They're going to happen. If you can't handle it, find another sport. Seriously, soccer is calling you.
Speaker 1:Fuck, you're in a bad mood today.
Speaker 3:A little chirpy.
Speaker 1:You are a little… you just you know what. All these people that you just told to wear girdles and that you know put whatever, those are fans. You know what they used to be fans Now. They're just fans of me now, like they used to like you, but you fucking called them gay or something. I don't even know what you did. So which, by the way, you want to talk about fans? Let's turn it to something pleasant. Yeah, okay, let's have a… I feel better now though.
Speaker 1:Do you? Yeah, that's good. You should really yell at somebody On the way here. Pick an old lady crossing the street and getting out at her. I can get out and help her across. Well, that would be nicer, but you know it wouldn't make you feel less stressed when you get here. So what we're going to do right now, though, is we're going to actually introduce our newest segment Right on. We are going to introduce….
Speaker 3:Can we talk a little bit about them, or no?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we can talk about them.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:So we're going to introduce the new segment yeah, shooting the… Shot Shot. See, what we do is we take shooting the shit yeah, we don't swear, we don't say shit. So he says shot, right, get it. Yeah, get it. So it's kind of shooting the… let's try that again. Okay, so we're going to have our episode shooting the shot Shot. Oh right, exactly. See, that's what we do. We work as a team, right? It's kind of like Abba and Costello-ish, right? Yeah, would that be Abba and Costello?
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:Maybe Laurel Hardy, laurel Hardy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, I guess you're Laurel. I'm this tall, skinny one, just so you know, that's what I was going with.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, anyway, see you, I did that. Yeah, that was good. I don't have a tie, but I did the whole thing Okay, so we went to Florida.
Speaker 3:We did, man, what you know, I know, like the weather. People say, look, we weren't there for that, Lee, we got some golf games in, Thanks to you. We did Chris organized. We ended up playing three games. It was so much fun. It's only the second time in my life I've golfed in Florida. People say, oh my God, Lee, you're such an avid golfer, You've never…. No, I'm just like don't get down there Usually because I'm talking hockey somewhere and I just haven't had many opportunities to travel south in the winter. So that was fun. Yeah, the flight's in bullshit and everything here in Canada. But I mean we eventually got there. We got a nice rental car and we zipped around the state.
Speaker 3:We did, we zipped around the state and we met the greatest guys Ron Dugay. Can I say the rest of the names?
Speaker 1:You absolutely can.
Speaker 3:Ron Dugay, Phyllis Mazzito, Ken Hodg, Steve Schutt, Larry Robinson and Matt Karkner. We're going to have snippets for you, parts for you. What are we running today?
Speaker 1:So we're going to run a segment of Ron Dugay. Okay, sudbury Boy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:I'm going to say that Good Sudbury Boy there.
Speaker 1:I'm going to sound like Don Cherry here. It's a good old boy there from Sudbury and all that stuff like that. There the guy's stat gave him nothing, nothing at all, anyways.
Speaker 3:That was good, that was good man.
Speaker 1:I used to do a long time ago. I used to do Don Cherry. I said people think Don Cherry is not civilized, but Don Cherry is actually quite…. You know, an artistic man and a poet and people didn't know and he used to recite Robert Service, the shooting of Dan McGrew. Right, yeah, and I used to do that. He said a bunch of the boys are whooping it up there in a Malamute Saloon, kid O'Hannis at Jutebox, he's playing a rag type tune. You know, like that, there, I don't know, colm, the Dark of the Night comes a guy. Gotta love him. He's a Ducky Gilmore type, you know, good Kingston boy, anyway. So that was Don Cherry doing the shooting of Dan McGrew and Robert W Service.
Speaker 1:That's so good, man, that was awesome. Oh yeah, you know what I'm in demand? It's unbelievable, I'm telling you. So we sat down with Rod Dugay.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:He gets to his house, and what a nice guy. We first we got a tour which we didn't film, the tour of a lot of memorabilia, but he's got some great stuff, yeah.
Speaker 3:And then we sat down and we were able to put any of the pictures.
Speaker 1:I got some pictures in Okay. I have like the, I mean his dad and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so, oh, yeah, I got those, yeah, I was able to do that, but we're not going to do the entirety of the interview because it's a longer one. So what we're going to do is we're going to make, we're going to do, like, part of the interview, part of the interview next week, okay, nice, and then what we'll do is the whole interview will be available in its entirety both on the website and on the podcast.
Speaker 1:Perfect Okay On Spotify. Okay Offside with Hosbun Gwyer. You know who we are? Yeah, okay. So we're going to start introducing our new segment, which is shooting a shot. Welcome back to a new segment we're doing on the show. It's called shooting the shot. Yeah, that's right, this is the shot. Easy, we're shooting the shot and today it is an absolute pleasure for me to be able to introduce the beginning discussion with this gentleman. I grew up maybe 20 minutes from where this guy grew up, originally from Val Caen, what's?
Speaker 2:Val Caen.
Speaker 1:Val Caen, I would think of Dune. He got a few things when he was born. His father didn't have much, but he said okay, I teach you French, I teach you play hockey and you get my hair. And so Ron, known for his hair. Ladies, I'm very proud to introduce a Sudbury maid of, we'll call it former Sudbury Wolf, ron Dugay. Ron, welcome, well, good to be here. What's the name of the show? Again, and that seems to be the big show is Offside with Hanson McGuire, the segment is shooting the shot.
Speaker 1:The shot the shot. And then also with us.
Speaker 2:Okay, that leads into one of my favorite teammates when I played in New York. I didn't have my whole long time, but he became a good friend. It was score your goals, roger O'Bear.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, so it kind of leads into it Roger O'Bear. We were talking about how Roger O'Bear was Mr New York, but he was also, I mean, Roger O'Bear.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Gag line, gag line, swashbuckler looking guy himself, and he drew one of the assists on your first goal ever in the NHL.
Speaker 2:He did, and I believe it might have been Carol Vannay who kept the puck in and I don't remember all the details of it, but yeah, he was only there a couple months and John Ferguson was there and he had some different ideas about wanting to keep him or not keep him, and sure enough he was only there two months, but I got to hang with him in training camp A couple months.
Speaker 2:We played a few shifts together and I happened to score my first goal with the great Roger O'Bear, who was after that mentored me, not on the ice, but off the ice, off the ice, so he became a good friend.
Speaker 1:It doesn't seem like you needed much mentoring from all the press.
Speaker 2:Well, you know I come from a vacanon, although you know I had my fun in Sudbury, played there four years. Zara's a 15 year old, played there four years and I became very popular there because you know, the better you do, more popular you get.
Speaker 2:So I had my fun at a certain level. So by the time I left the Wolves, I think I was 19, which that was the year before they had 18 rules playing NHL. But they changed it. My year, my draft year which was a kind of a good thing because I don't think I was ready to go play in NHL I got to play next year. So my point is this I got to spend some quality time in Sudbury, I did go out and did have some fun. So by the time I got to New York, of course it's big, it's grand, right, yeah, but it's either you have it in you or you don't. Either you're going to be afraid of it or you're going to embrace it. And so you know, I was always grounded and not wanting to get in trouble.
Speaker 1:I want to have fun, but don't get in trouble. Is that? Was that your dad's voice waiting for you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, my dad didn't have to say much. He just, you just knew that he had command of the household. And it's a good thing to have fear of your dad, in a way of not wanting to get in trouble. That's right. And so I had that fear of not wanting to get in trouble, yeah, so, plus, I had some friends that we weren't troublemakers a lot of them, we just played hockey.
Speaker 1:I'm digressing, but what did your dad do, like tell me about your parents and how I mean obviously they were. They were proud of your accomplishments.
Speaker 2:So you know, in Sudbury there's a lot of mining going on in Coe and Falconbridge. So my dad worked at Falconbridge and he he left school at the age of in the sixth grade. So then my mom and they decided back then let's get a trade. So my dad went and got. He became electrician. So he was an electrician underground in Falconbridge for over 35 years, wow. So I didn't know much about mining or going underground. All I knew is I didn't want to be a miner. Often it wasn't in good conditions. So my dad was a miner and the one thing that I saw on him because he didn't talk about is that health and fitness. So my dad was a bodybuilder. Oh, was he A weightlifter? Well, I'll say a weightlifter, yeah, my dad was a weightlifter.
Speaker 1:No, but he would have known Murray, vino and all those guys, because that was that that era.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So my dad, for whatever reason he took to wanting to get bigger and stronger, he played a little bit of hockey. He played juvenile hockey, but I saw him like three, four times a week going to this location and lifting weights and then I would see pictures and by the time he had decided to move he designed his own gym at the house downstairs. So by the time I was 13 years old watching my dad, I said dad, can I start weightlifting?
Speaker 2:He said yeah, certainly, because you know you don't want to kid kids, starting too soon because you have to develop naturally you don't want to be too jacked up and so by the age of 13 I started lifting weights and I saw that I enjoyed it and and I would do it in the summertime, in the off season, and by the time I step on the ice I saw a difference because my dad said you're going to get a little bigger, a little stronger, a little faster.
Speaker 2:And when I started the seat getting faster and then with my height every summer, that's what I did. So I credit my dad where bodybuilding, a weightlifting, that wasn't a big deal back then. So through my junior years I just kept getting stronger and of course, you know, during those times early 70s, that's when hockey was tough, like you had a man up so you had to have there was a lot of fighting, so you had to have strength to be able to protect yourself. You know, take hits and all that. So it lined up with my frame and my size and it kind of got me through junior hockey and by the time I got to the NHL I was strong enough, fast enough. That was my advantage over everyone else. I'm 6'2 and I can skate faster than most guys. So I credit my dad for teaching me how to health and fitness.
Speaker 1:Liam, I'm going to turn to you and ask because you know some of the statistical things.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do but that's just great to hear, isn't it? Oh, absolutely, I mean it's more keen to me anyway, because you know these names and from that area too. I thought that was super cool way to start.
Speaker 1:Well, it wasn't coming from, also from Val Cairn. He was.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Pushover coming.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you remember that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know he did. He did do radio or TV. I think he did both. He did both.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did both mostly radio, but he did TV. He used to do when I was well, you would have been young too, but you had a list?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he had a list Coming, yeah.
Speaker 1:Coming and he used the host in the Saturday mornings. You know what I mean. So we'd come home from from hockey, we'd have we play hockey like early Saturday mornings. Okay, we'd get home and he'd be on TV and he actually hosted a movie thing and watch and oh, this is where I got into movies, okay, okay. Covey Burton was the host of the, the Saturday morning movie type thing yeah. Where I watched Abedin Costello and all those things. I don't know if you remember when those were Absolutely yeah, so I have three channels.
Speaker 2:I own three channels on TV.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and it made well and we played. It was so I grew up with a fuck. It's the one you interviewed me. Yeah, like I'm like I lay him on like that.
Speaker 2:But I'm gonna carry this guy all day.
Speaker 1:I know, I know what you're talking about. All right, all right, all right.
Speaker 3:I can't know what. No, but you grew up with Randy.
Speaker 1:Boyd and, yeah yeah, randy Fox and.
Speaker 3:Fox's brother and that area, coniston guys, and that's, you know, a lot of good players on a Sunday?
Speaker 2:Yeah Well.
Speaker 1:Northern. The minds used to recruit from all over the best athletes and ball and hockey and whatever, and they played for the teams like the teams, and that's where you ended up with the boys of the Foxes and they all come in. This is every. Not to mention there was no jobs anywhere else and you know it was a great I. You know. I say this all the time. I don't live there anymore. I'll always be a. You know the Siberian. Yeah, it was a great place to grow up, absolutely, and I, I and I was saying to you I think it was the greatest era as well.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, it's a great area, all of us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because we, when I'm in the States, a lot of Americans say every time they meet a Canadian, they appreciate Canadians because you guys are so nice, right? Well, a lot of it had to do with our upbringing.
Speaker 2:You know very normal, very regular, and a lot of us just played hockey, played a little ball in the summertime. Yeah, you didn't know much about the divorce. It wasn't much divorce back then. Families kept it together, so it was very family community. Yeah, and not much. You felt safe all the time because we're always on our bicycles.
Speaker 3:Well, they're online. It takes a village to raise a child. We all grew up in small communities where your neighbors and relatives, or what not, were as responsible, maybe, for your upkeep upgrade.
Speaker 1:You did something wrong and lower one end of Coniston before you got home. Yeah, well, that's my point, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you didn't feel, you felt kindness. Love, you know, of course, is always the oddball, but even that oddball wouldn't last, because you know someone would have a talk with them. Yeah. Exactly yeah, so it was just just a happy upbringing, simple, and so by the time you leave your community then you end up in the stage and playing on these hockey teams. Yeah, you know, back in the 70s mostly probably 85, 90 percent were Canadians.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so I like to think that we'd care read or self. Well, although we do like to have fun.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and we're going to ask you about that one. We're not letting you go today. We have a text on some of that, but let's get some. We've got to get some of the hockey stuff.
Speaker 2:We do.
Speaker 3:Okay, sorry, yeah, well, I just want to go right into those late 70s Rangers teams that you know did things like knock off the Islanders and you end up going to Stanley Cup final and you've got to ask you about that, ron, what that was like going there and if you could more from playing in the final and and offer up a thought, a comment on anything on Phyllis Vizito we're going to see on this tour as well, who was a teammate of yours. It's a hockey legend and icon, not just for 72 but with the Bruins of the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 2:If you could share some Ranger memories in the Stanley Cup final and playing the Espo Well, when you when you mentioned Espo, I've had the great pleasure of being a teammate and and then later on became coach and manager. So I've got to see all sides of Espo. And the thing is, with Espo he was the same all the time as a teammate, as a coach, as a manager. He was the same guy all the time. But I have to back up to when I was 14 years old, when we all watched 1972. Yeah, yeah, canada Cup, yeah. And what stood out to me more than anything, while the fact that the Canadians were able to come back and beat the Russians was a big deal, absolutely Big deal, probably the biggest hockey thing ever yeah, because we we were in the hole and going to Russia didn't either come back.
Speaker 2:But it was Espo in Vancouver, when they were down three games to one and essentially he was interviewed on the ice. Yeah, famous interview. And he spoke from the heart, yeah, yeah I. That speech had me think, or had me look at this man which I didn't know. I said, no, that's leadership, yeah, that's leadership. He said what he had to say. He was upset with the fans and he told them right to their face. He said we're going to go over there, we're going to go win and sure enough he goes over the heat, dominated when you look at everything that was done on the ice, the goals he scored, but he had, he more than anyone else now. They all played hard, they all did their thing. Paul Henderson and Yvonne Coinoye, they all did their thing, but Espo stood up more than anything else. So that impression on me was that's what it looks like to be a leader. I can just be a player and just play, but to have a leadership quality where everybody says wow, he's different. So so now, 79 and 77, I get drafted by the New York Rangers and so I'm called in.
Speaker 2:In June I'm going to go to New York and I'm going to probably just meet John Furrier, because I had no idea who was going to be there. I can remember getting in New York. I think it was the first time getting on a playing fight in New York here at Ampliaticus Square Garden. I walked up to the office and the first guy well, the first two men I meet is Phyllis Pizito and Ron Gilbert. I'm like, and they didn't give me a heads up and and this was like a wow to me, because they have, they have big personalities and they're great guys and they welcome me right away. And so that was my first wow, I made it. I'm in New York. I still have to make the team and so now I can tell you we can probably spend a good 30 minutes right now tell you what my first week was like in New York.
Speaker 2:What in June? So Rod Gilbert introduced me, says Ron, we're gonna take you out today. So what do you mean? Well, it's a little bit initiation. Well, we haven't even started. No, no, no, we're gonna take you out. And so it's. Espo doesn't come though. Espo's gotta go home to his wife. But him and Steve Vickers was on the team says I'm gonna go and we're gonna go to a spa. And I'm like I'm from the suburb. What is a spa? Right, get in the car and I know we're heading downtown.
Speaker 2:We pull up in front of this building, nice townhouse, and I said okay, guys, what's up and I think Luciane DeBouah was with me and so we walk into this, we walk, we go through this hallway, long hallway, and I can remember open up these door and there's a swimming pool. I'm like, okay, this is a gag right. And so there's a woman at the desk and the woman picks up the phone, calls someone, and I'm just like what are we doing? And along the swimming pool there's like six doors and all these doors open up and all these women come up and they all sit by the, they all sit down by the pool and that's where the story ends.
Speaker 1:Hey, welcome back. I mean what, you know what? There's so much more that we're gonna add, you know, in the coming weeks to that from that interview expert, from it, yeah, but I'll tell you what a great, what a great time Very cordial, very welcoming, very, and you know what. This leads us to another segment, not a new one, another segment that we always do, which is the puck bunny, ron Dugay is currently seeing.
Speaker 1:This is not news. This has been in the news. Yeah, people know this. Okay, he's currently seeing former vice presidential candidate, former Alaska governor, sarah Palin, and so, as a result, sarah Palin is our puck bunny of the week.
Speaker 3:What a great choice.
Speaker 1:So, as it turned out we were going to it was a kind of a secret we were going to interview her as well. Yeah, she had said that she would be. She'd be willing to sit down and talk hockey with us. Okay, not politics, but hockey.
Speaker 3:And she's a hockey mom. She's a hockey mom At a fan. She was a hockey mom.
Speaker 1:So what was interesting? Is that she was a sports. Her first gig was as a sports caster. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3:Very interesting sports.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was. She's right into them and she was a very good athlete, very good athlete. As a matter of fact, she was a state champion in basketball. Yeah, I mean, she's five foot nothing, but she, she was a state basketball champion and the team captain at like five foot whatever in basketball. Yes, right, so I mean an incredible competitor. And you don't listen, you don't rise to the level in politics or or in anything in life without having a competitive nature. Right, you don't get to be on the ticket, okay To, for the, you know, for the White House, without having a competitive nature and having some substance, 100%. You know, she got ripped apart by the press and they love to make fun of her. Yeah, I like to do things. You know what I mean, but at the end of the day, she's an impressive woman who is actually very attractive.
Speaker 3:You know, you know, you know and great looking lady, Absolutely.
Speaker 1:And that's not to say we're not trying to be creepy, we're just like trying to be, you know, appreciative of, of her power and beauty.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we didn't. We didn't get to meet her and she was out of town, Unfortunately, when we went to Ron's house. But we got stuck in Montreal the night before we did and she got stuck in Nashville, Nashville, so so it didn't work out.
Speaker 1:We're disappointed by it, but we are not disappointed in her as the as the puck money. She's got five kids. She has five.
Speaker 2:Exactly Looking good.
Speaker 1:Five kids yeah, she knows like she has, you know, kept herself. She's written a couple of like, like books. Yeah, she is still active in politics. Yeah, you know what I mean she's. She's a little more on the I don't. I don't know where she falls from a political perspective. I mean, I know she's a Republican slash, even tea party type of person, but at the same time, you know, a lot of her belief systems are really fundamentally sound.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right.
Speaker 1:And and, and one of the things that I appreciate in, in, in any politician, is that they believe in what they're doing and what they you know, and and what the value is to their constituents. Yeah, okay, so, so, anyways, what do you have to say about her?
Speaker 3:Just, really unfortunate we didn't get to meet her because, you're right, chris, it was sort of sort of a backdoor setup and then it it didn't happen. But I just want to thank Ron. I know he's going to watch this and, and it's so, it was so great to. You know, I met him last year in Mill River, pei. He came on the New Brunswick tour that I was on. He was outstanding by the way he still plays. He got better literally every game by game. Four, game five he was.
Speaker 3:I told him there was one play, chris, he was busting down the wingman. I swear to God it it looked no different. It could have been 1982. Like, he was just absolutely flying and Matthew Dandenall missed him with the pass and so they, he went way off side. When he went back and just gave Matthew like hey, bud, like yeah, yeah, I was moving Headman the puck, and the exact same play happened about 90 seconds later and Dandenall, who's probably the most recently retired on that group, right, this guy won three Stanley cups with Detroit Redwings. He put it right on the tape. The next time he had doogie on the fly and Ron came in over that wing, just waited and just snapped her. But I mean, you get a sense of what these guys could do. So, yeah, sarah is a puck bunny and she is Ron's main squeeze there right now. We didn't get to meet her, but I had a great choice to have her as a great combo. Great combo with them, with the interview, and hopefully next time we do get to meet her and you know what.
Speaker 1:So for all of those people out there who you know, when she was running for the vice president, and that was 15 years ago right At 08 or yeah, it would be 08, 812, 1620.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, 08.
Speaker 1:Yeah in a way. So that's like 1000 years ago. Whatever it is, you know, she was a beautiful woman then and she's maintained that beauty. And so you know, cheers to her for being not only a beautiful woman but a woman of substance, a woman of character and a woman who, frankly, has great taste in in men because she's with a Sudbury guy.
Speaker 3:Sudbury guy yeah, just like your wife. She's got that in common with your wife, exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, that's been it. Now we're gonna cut off. We're gonna go to our Zamboni boy for the week.
Speaker 3:He was a skater boy. She said see you later, boy. He wasn't good enough.
Speaker 1:Okay, and welcome back to the Zamboni boy of the week. And this week we have somebody who is a Canadian, yeah, very well known, very soft-spoken, very quiet, but you know, in the movies a kick-ass action here carries a big gun he carries well.
Speaker 3:He's good, does he?
Speaker 1:have a good gun.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I mean, I guess it's not that big.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 3:John Wick, I suppose oh okay, so you're talking about.
Speaker 1:I just gave it away.
Speaker 3:Yes, it's oh yeah the old double entendre going there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no Reeves. Yeah, bonie boy the week.
Speaker 3:Canadian Born and be rude, but grew up in Toronto.
Speaker 1:Okay, but I thought that he lived in Winnipeg.
Speaker 3:I thought there was a Winnipeg connection not to my knowledge, but you may be right. I don't know Hollywood actors and actresses like I do the NHL, but I am a huge fan. Are you, oh yeah, big fan of this guy? Absolutely. I mean oh, I didn't really do much for me Bill and Ted's excellent adventure and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:I love that, but yeah, that's it from a philosophical perspective. Yeah, okay, that's a great movie, not saying it's not it's.
Speaker 3:It just didn't really appeal to me. I'm not not really, you know, I like violence be excellent.
Speaker 1:That's excellent, yeah, excellent, yeah. You gotta be excellent, but that's the thing be excellent to people. That's a great message at the end of the day.
Speaker 3:Well, I just love the guy's background. I mean he, you know his, his, his mother is English, his father is American, from Hawaii, who's a multinational descent, of multinational proportions, and and and I whether that fueled him somehow or not, I don't know yet he had relatives that kind of pointed him towards Some some acting stuff in his youth and he got involved in that and that's sort of he gravitated up. But his first real major film was Youngblood.
Speaker 3:Well, so he was a hockey player though he was, he was a hell of a goalie. In fact, at the age of 15 he had some people in himself. They were. There were some thoughts that he was sort of heading towards a path. Maybe that would see him, if he was successful enough, maybe angling towards Canadian national team you know.
Speaker 3:So I mean, at 1516 you either got to be hitting major junior or tier two. I don't believe he ever did that, but I think that was an aspiration that he had and he apparently he apparently wasn't accomplished Goal tender and in Youngblood he played a goalie. Yeah well, there you have. So I think that's awesome, that that sort of gave him his start, if you will, in the in the film industry. When you think of what he's done with Matrix and what he's done with John Wick, let alone a number of others like speed.
Speaker 3:Speed was the big one speed and and then point break.
Speaker 1:So I watched speed the other night. Yeah, okay, the original, that's the first one, right? Yeah, because there was speed two, yeah, and then there was speed three. I think speed three was on a boat, I like that was just, it didn't work. But but Ottawa guy, jeremy Hott's was in that, okay, but so young a, and Sandra Bullock says that she loved him.
Speaker 2:I know right, but yeah, nothing ever happened. I know he's a gentleman, okay but, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1:You know she's so cute, she's got to be a fuck bunny.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, that's, make it next week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's beautiful, she's absolute. Yeah she even like she was in that movie. Miscogeniality yeah, she's got a likability factor for sure Is unbelievable, and it doesn't seem as though it certainly her characters right.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You're going on based on character, but how they hold themselves also when they're out. You know, you don't see you're getting into trouble. I mean, she had a you know a bad marriage with, so why the hell would somebody screw around on Sandra Bullock?
Speaker 2:I don't know but you know I mean that was stupid, but that was a great movie no speed.
Speaker 1:I was a great Dennis Hopper.
Speaker 3:I was hoppers, it had to be one of his last films, I'm assuming. I can't imagine he could have done too many after that. I maybe did, I'm not sure, but a big fan of him too, he's got to be his hand boony boy in the future. Also, if for no other reason, just for easy rider. I mean you know he had a yeah, I mean I was roll was minor in that, but he was in it man, he was in easy rider. It's just no, it's just a signature. Should we?
Speaker 3:play some step and wolf as we're yeah, definitely go out with some step and wolf, you know, let her go, just crank it, and we gotta forget about talking with Dennis.
Speaker 1:We're going really and truly. We were talking about Canaries, yeah, and how great was canaries to allow us to talk about other people during his very nice.
Speaker 3:You know, I'm sure he'll send us very congratulatory note.
Speaker 1:I mean, but at the end of the day, so cheers to the Matrix, john Wick, all the other things. The lake house, which you know what I mean, he was in that. I think he was in that with Sandra Bollack again, really, yeah, yeah okay. I've got this thing, hey, they're a great car, even though he has had the a long-term relationship With this line always first wife passed away.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it took a long time for him to remarry, but yeah, he just seems. He seems like a good Canadian guy right there.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what I does, I will. I would say that I grew up in New.
Speaker 3:York Mills, I think part of Toronto or something. York, I don't know. A piano Give us a call, let us know like all the details.
Speaker 1:We don't have all of it, but if you ever want to be on shooting a shot right with us, Please just just give us a call.
Speaker 3:We're gonna be in Toronto.
Speaker 1:We'll get a little flight LA. Well, you know you know, and we can be in LA, where it's just not a, it's not a thing. So I like to go to. When we get to customs, I like to say so what's the purpose of your visit? We're going down to see my buddy Keanu.
Speaker 3:Yeah, by the way, young blood also Steve Thomas, the late Pete Zazzle and a guy in my wedding party, tim salmon, ohl scoring leader 1984, also had yet actually speaking scene in that. In that movie he was the he. He was the guy's nose broken in yeah, it's broken, or whatever he said in the dressing room. But yeah, they had. They picked up some guys from the old and they used to. Sammy told me the story that Rob Lowe would be bench pressing like about 120 pounds and then going out with a shirt off with the girls, just Little bit of a little bit of a pump on. You know, president, buck 20 or whatever it was then went out there. But Sammy had really enjoyed the experience and much like the guys who a decade earlier in slap shot right the guys who had a chance to skate as extra extras.
Speaker 1:When I think of the top hockey movies, I'm thinking slap shot, and right right up there is young blood.
Speaker 3:Yeah, not, not, not, not even there's a slap shot and then everything else falls off a cliff, right. But I mean, you know, there is no other hockey movie really other than slap shot. The rest are just, you know.
Speaker 1:There will be one, yeah, the ogie story.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I will do, goldie's. I will get it on the screen once I can get my my life to slow down a little bit. I'll get it on the. I'll get that screenplay done, but and he could be a Zamboni boy.
Speaker 1:Who's that Goldie yeah you know what? Good, I don't know what we'll talk about.
Speaker 3:that off he's so he had a few a rasp big deal.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I only know who hasn't.
Speaker 3:I mean seriously. I never did drugs right. You know, he sees, he's spoken in schools and hockey schools for years. He's phenomenal with kids Pro athlete. Just this had a very unique role.
Speaker 1:He's running a daycare.
Speaker 3:No, but I mean in a sense, if you're running a hockey school, you kind are yeah you know, and he did for years and the kids loved them and they still do. I toured with the guy and saw the reaction when kids got a chance To meet him and everything the way he was with children, the way he is with animals too and he's an absolute.
Speaker 3:Children animals good, he's fantastic with children and animals and he's fantastic in the kitchen. He would come to your house and tell you and Kristen to pour yourself a drink and go sit down, play some tunes. I'll call you in three hours and have you a five course meal.
Speaker 1:So maybe we can do that. We'll have here, we'll have your dinner, cuz I especially if you like fish.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, I love fish.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, I like I know you love fish.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's his best, that's his favorite. Yeah, yeah of course.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what I like the guy. He's from Horn pain, isn't he horn pain? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know who else is from Horn pain? The guy by the name of. He goes by Patrick Malieha. He's a comic. He came to, came to University in Ottawa and I knew him as a comic. He's now out West. Very, very funny. He does. He does a thing, you did a thing this is going back, but did a thing he would do. I think it was like a hundred and some impressions. Okay, within 60 seconds, really, oh yeah, like it was absolutely crazy. I mean it almost sounds familiar with that.
Speaker 3:We have seen that on TV, possibly.
Speaker 1:Are you telling?
Speaker 3:me. He's from Horn pain.
Speaker 1:He's from Horn pain. Oh my god, yeah, can't believe it. Yeah, there's a lot. Listen, I tell you they, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a great breeding ground. I now I wouldn't, you know Match the two of them up right. They're two different, very Okay, but but anyways, that's just you know, I'm hoping so. Our Zamboni boy of the week was Keanu Reeves.
Speaker 3:Yeah okay.
Speaker 1:Star of film and Young boy and a musician like you and a musician, that's right. He is a dog star. He's dog star, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right. Okay, we got to end it, I know. Okay, we're done. He was a skater boy.
Speaker 3:She said see you later, boy.
Speaker 1:Okay, welcome back. We are, we're. You know what we have come back to discuss Records, nhl records. Yeah, liam has this thing, okay, where he has this, you know, like information in his head, okay, but we are on the brink Of an NHL record being set, being tied, being tied, being tied being tied, yeah, okay. And so tell me, why don't we share that information?
Speaker 3:Yeah, because the Edmonton Oilers, as everybody knows, have gone on a tear. They haven't lost Chris Since December 19th, which at that time was there. They lost the Islanders was their third loss in a row, remember they started so poorly, they went on a bit of a run and then they lost three games in a row. Tampa Wax them, I think. They lost to Florida. Then the Islanders beat them pretty good too, and then it started, yeah, tumblers aligned, whatever, whether it was Skinner combo, whatever, you know Well, first of all, I think primarily it was Connor McDavid getting healthy.
Speaker 3:My own opinion he played at least 10 to 12 games on on with, with an some sort of lower body leg injury type thing. You and I discussed this previously. I watched him, I watched all their games. I watched him go off the ice and have to use his hands Chris on the boards to lift his leg Off the ice even though he was out there skate like a bad it in a straight line, but his manoeuvrability wasn't there and in 10 or 12 games he picked up like two points, three points, like the lead the Kutcher off has and and McKinnon has over Connor who, as we tape this, is in fourth in scoring, was largely accumulated in that time period. So Edmondson goes on a run. They've won 16 straight games and the NHL record is 17.
Speaker 3:I know, as you all know, pittsburgh Penguins 1993 and Right toward the end of the season, the last two games is that they had the loss and they picked up a tie. I believe it was, but it right before the end of the 92 93 season and they were the two-time defending Cup champs, which is why everybody and their brother Expected, with healthy Mario and Jagger starting to really come into his own, that they were going to roll to the Stanley Cup. Instead they got derailed by the New York Islanders and David Bolox overtime goal in game seven next to you know the Montreal Canadians emerge victorious. You know they found their way through and got their 24 Stanley Cup and no Canadian teams.
Speaker 3:One sense the Oilers right now on the verge of tying history, right. But here's the thing, chris you, everything's against them. They've got they're not only going into their bi-week now, they've got the NHL all-star break. They come back. They don't even play till the middle of next week. Their next game, their next three games, are all on the road, starting with the defending Stanley Cup champions in Vegas. Do you not think they're gonna be licking their lips for the Oilers to come in and derail that streak? Oh my god.
Speaker 1:I mean, well, oh, you're right. I mean, listen, it'll be tough, but you know what. This is where they're. We're gonna find out if they've got you know, the metal. Oh my god, I have what it takes to Overcome that. I mean if and, and you know what, let's face it. A two-week, you know Time off, yeah, right, yeah, I mean the all-star week for a couple of guys. The rest of them get the rest summer booing down south.
Speaker 3:That's right. They're gonna get somewhere more. I'm gonna go listen. They're gonna get some sun.
Speaker 1:When they come like they're gonna have to come back and If I'm the coach, I'm saying listen, you guys got. You got four days. Yeah, right, go have a great time, whatever, we're coming back, but we're on the ice every fucking day, yeah, after that, because we are on a mission. Yeah, win this Stanley Cup. And you know you guys are, you are your professionals, you know they're gonna be in. They want to win the cup, like all these guys want. They wanted, they want to Stop the naysayers, they want to stop the negativity. They want to prove that they are, I mean, the best, certainly the best. Two players, or two of the best Four players in the NHL are with the Oilers right now.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, I think any GM in their right mind would take would still take Connor number one. As I said, yeah, he missed a dad. He didn't miss, he played. I think you actually missed two games, one or two games with the injury supposed to miss more. He came back and played in the Outdoor game member. Yeah, it's Calgary. No one thought he was gonna play. He played and and I'm not saying he Exaggerated the injury at that time because he kept playing through it. I guess he was deemed look, if you can handle the pain, go play right. And he did.
Speaker 3:All you had to do is watch the games and see just how Less effective he was, despite still having the ability to have these bursts, have these McDavid Looking like scenarios, but he just wasn't generating anything right. Look that last game, four points. I mean he's charged up the scoring. He currently sits in fourth. He's got 67 points. As we tape it, kutcher off 18 ahead. I mean Conner's got some games in hand. I'm not suggesting necessarily he'll make that up. He might right, I'm not saying it's maybe. Speaking of 1993, mary Lou Mew, pat Lafontaine, I mean it brings up memories of that. Yeah, however, the the gap was bigger and Mario was Mario and everything else we'll see, but in terms of the streak it's, there's some synergy there, because that was the 93 penguins that hold the record at 17. They broke the New York Islanders record and, and, and, and, as we mentioned last show, chris the oilers broke the Montreal Canadians record for the Canadian teams. I that's kind of stupid to say no, it's not, I just were Canadian teams In the NHL.
Speaker 1:I have the record for comedians from Connister.
Speaker 3:They go right. Yeah, exactly exactly. And your buddy, there's probably the number one comedian from Horn pain, that's right.
Speaker 1:Exactly you know. So, yeah, you're absolutely anyway, there was no, there was no record that. This is the record that this is the record. The other thing and we won't know for another two weeks.
Speaker 3:Yeah, February 6. They don't play those six. We're gonna. We're gonna have another show. We'll have another show before, before Edmonton plays again, yeah, anyway.
Speaker 2:Hopefully. The skill is that yeah, good luck, man.
Speaker 3:I hope they do it, I hope they tie it, hope they break it, hope they break it. Love to have them break it. I'm a huge fan McDavid, massive, massive fan of Connor McDavid and I know we're gonna finally see them in February of 2025, you know that's. That's just coming up to a year away, chris. What's that? You know, the World Cup. It's gonna be a World Cup in 2025. We're gonna find see it best on best.
Speaker 1:Yeah, why are they doing it in February?
Speaker 3:Well, they're gonna. They want everybody in their prime, they want everybody in their peak. So they're gonna, the NHL is gonna shut down, they'll be no all-star game, and and they're there. I believe that's the case anyway. It may be wrong, but I don't think it's gonna be an all-star game. So that week, right, and they're gonna obviously borrow another week, right, and so there'll be a bit of a condensed schedule, but we're going to get another best-on-best for the first time since the World Cup of 2016. Well, there hasn't been one since 2016 2016. Yeah, that's the last best-on best.
Speaker 1:We had nine years, nine years different nine friggin years.
Speaker 3:Nine friggin years and and we've been ripped off of McDavid and Crosby. I'm so glad that Sid's doing what he's doing at 36. We'll get him next year, you know it, barring a total collapse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you know what the question is is that is that going to be a Another?
Speaker 3:patronage pick. Yeah Well, he wouldn't be this year, right? I mean you by your own. Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 1:He'd be. You know, I said did I not say at the beginning of season I said Crosby's gonna have his best season in a long time? I said that. I don't know if you remember that. I don't remember that, yeah.
Speaker 3:I know.
Speaker 1:I said that and I said that Part of it will be and I actually expected Carlson to do better. But I didn't yeah Well, but, but at the same time I think that you know they're gonna miss the playoffs.
Speaker 3:They're five points out. They've got no chance yeah five points?
Speaker 1:How many points out? Or is Ottawa? 9000 9000 points and you were saying well, if they go on a hamburger, I know, but we want a hamburger. Run you can be optimistic about the Ottawa Senators going on a hamburger run, but when it comes to Sidney Crosby and Eric Carlson, yeah, okay, finally clicking and actually making up five points, yeah.
Speaker 3:I know, but Ottawa's got games in hand.
Speaker 1:Chris, let me just. Is there something I could give you to hit you over the head? Hit me with this empty, can you?
Speaker 3:know that means folks.
Speaker 1:Yes, I have a this show that. Alright, well, listen, do we have anything else you want to end off with? I?
Speaker 3:can't think of anything else. You want to.
Speaker 1:You want to piss off any more oh.
Speaker 3:I think I did a pretty good job.
Speaker 1:I was excellent, I thought thank you very much. Well, this has been offside with Hawes McGuire.
Speaker 3:I'm Hawes, I'm, I'm McGuire.
