Offside with Hawes and Maguire
Offside: with Hawes and Maguire is not your typical hockey show. This weekly
45-60 minute show is a potent combination of humour and genuine hockey insights that pushes the envelope.
- Liam is renowned for his photographic memory, lively storytelling, vast hockey knowledge and sometimes over-the-top passion for the game of hockey.
- Chris is known for his unrehearsed humour, contagious laughter and uncanny ability to make even the most serious debates end in boisterous guffaws.
Between the two, there is an infectious enthusiasm and professional chemistry that is evident from the outset. It can only be described as lightning in a bottle.
Offside with Hawes and Maguire
Pucks, Bucks, and Behind the Scenes Chuckles. Rachel McAdams - with an "s"
Ottawa Senators' performance, including Liam's swing-and-a-miss guesses that led to some lively banter. If that's not enough, Liam has got heartwarming tales from a weekend with NHL alumni at the Canadian Tire Center and the Brockville Winter Classic, which was as full of laughter as it was of slap shots and old-time hockey stories.
Imagine sitting down with a hockey legend to talk about... finances? That's exactly what we did with Phil Esposito, who brought his trademark wit to a candid conversation about the costs of playing the sport. And as we venture beyond the rink, we tip our hats to Rachel McAdams, whose roles have touched our heart, t least Chris'. Plus, do you think you can stump us in hockey trivia? We put our knowledge to the test in the "Ask Liam" segment, where even we find ourselves scratching our heads.
. We wrap up with a flashback to New York's glittering past, courtesy of Ron Duguay's escapades at Studio 54, and ponder the enduring impact of a 1972 speech on Canadian identity. So lace up, lean in, and prepare for an episode that celebrates the stories and people that make our community—and our country—uniquely vibrant.
It's Offside with Hawes and McGuire. Hey and welcome to Offside with Hawes and McGuire. I'm Hawes.
Speaker 2:I'm McGuire. Hey, no point today. Bit of a different show. Chris is going to try and perform some editing magic.
Speaker 1:Alright, we had promised that we would do our very best to get an episode in this week and we are going to do that. I happen to be at a golf tournament in Arizona and Liam is on his way to Newfoundland for a hockey series down there with the legends of the NHL, which is exciting for him and this is exciting for me, as you can probably imagine. Anyhow, the point is that we are going to have a great episode for you. We've got a few things we're going to talk about. The first thing we're going to talk about is Liam's promise that the Senators would win, guaranteed, their next three games, and they shipped the bed and only won one of those three games. They lost a stinker to Anaheim and then they lost again to Chicago Better game, but still a loss. They should have won that. I just want to know what Liam has to say about that.
Speaker 2:I did guarantee the Sen's would win the week out with their opponents. They got the first one to make it four wins in a row and then promptly went out and laid an egg, I would say, in both games, although the Chicago one was close, but Anaheim just ran away early on that one and Ottawa really had very, very little pushback. Nice Chicago Morazzic played good 42 shots, made 40 saves, for Ottawa 67 and was probably the first star of the game. Well, I guess he was, but still, that's a game that Ottawa should not be losing. So you know, I mean, yeah, bad call by me.
Speaker 2:I certainly thought the Sen's were going to go on a mini-Hamburgler run. They still might if they go another, say the next 15 or 16 games, and go eight and three and two, or eight and two and four, or whatever the case may be, 13, 14, 15 games and another great big rip like that, which they may very well do. Didn't necessarily think that they were going to make a big push for the playoffs here, but I still do think they'll come quite a bit up in the standings before the end of the season. They're going to be good anyway. If you don't make the Hamburgler run and don't make it, then you're seven years in a row and all the pressure comes on the fall next year. So we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1:Hey Liam, why don't you tell us about what you did this past weekend Back?
Speaker 2:to back gigs for me on the weekend just past just outstanding Canadian Tire Center, with a bunch of alumni headed up by Billy Smith and Rick Smith, stanley Cup winners and the rest of a really good group of Senator alumni, some of whom were there the next night in Brockville for a Brockville winter classic that I MC'd hosted as well, in a series of hot stoves with the headliners being Alexander Degg and Terry Ryan, the two biggest NHL stories, and on NHL stories, I should say, with Alex's documentary and the reviews it's getting and I have watched it Talk about that later with Chris another time and Terry Ryan, who played in the East Coast hockey league, an emergency Basis on his 47th birthday for his hometown Newfoundland growlers and gotten a fight. And Then the final guys were Brian the Gratton, Andre Juan, chris Neil, who collectively have played 1,858 games, had 4,300 and penalty minutes and 724 fights. So I was pretty jacked about that one.
Speaker 1:Okay now, welcome back. I want to also address another issue. Last week, we had this gigantic Disagreement over Hockey fees and the affordability of hockey, and I said, well, it's all relative and hockey is very expensive. And Liam said no, it's not. And we had this, and there seemed to be this milestone of a thousand dollars that we talked about and and, and I I had inferred that it will cost more than a thousand dollars, or at least a thousand dollars For someone to play hockey, and Liam said, no, it's not. And anyways, we came down.
Speaker 1:Now we are discussing the, the differences between registration fees and teams fees, which I think should be all won, because a team fee, you don't get to play if you don't, if you don't pay it, and so, as a result, it's part of the registration fees. Given that it's over a thousand dollars, and I'd like to read a statement from Liam with regard to that. Dear viewers of offside, with Hosom Aguirre, chris was totally right it does cost over a thousand dollars to play hockey. I owe him a case of beer or a bottle of Irish whiskey, and that's. That's basically it. I could go on, but that's really the written statement that that Liam has Not authorized me to state for him, but I'm doing anyway, just a shit disturb.
Speaker 1:Okay, anyhow, we're gonna have a great show. We, we have our final segment of our rendezvous gay interview and and we have the first I'm gonna call it the teaser, because we were we were running the camera before we even started interviewing Phil Esposito. So you're gonna get the first five minutes or so of candid conversation with Phil Esposito and you're gonna get to find out what he actually thinks about Canadian politics. Now, here we are. We're gonna start with this week in hockey history.
Speaker 3:Hello Canada. I'm sorry, canada LaFleur coming out rather gingerly back to LaFleur.
Speaker 1:This week in hockey history. Now, this week in hockey history, today's date, february the 20th, and it just happens to be the 82nd birthday of none other than somebody we're interviewing today, which is Phil Esposito. Esposito is 82 years old. He is an icon. I mean, obviously we all know that Liam has a pension for the 72 series and Espo, you know, was they basically the team leader on that and and made everything happen. When we interviewed him, I was nervous, I gotta tell you. I Everyone says, never meet your heroes, you'll be disappointed. And I gotta tell you something, I was absolutely not disappointed. Phil Esposito is a gem of a human being, a great guy, made me feel and made it, makes everybody around him that frankly feel like they're his friend, and and he is so warm and genuine you just can't beat a guy like that. Now, this week in hockey history, february 20th, not only being his birthday, but Phil Esposito Notched his 50th goal on his birthday, not once, not twice, but three times. I mean, how often do people get 50 goal seasons, let alone score that 50th goal on his birthday, one of which was on his own brother, tony, in net? So I, you know what I know normally we have, you know, a much deeper discussion about a lot of things that we we tend to go off and discuss. Montreal, canadian history, don't much to my chagrin, but we are talking about Phil Esposito, february 20th, scoring his 50th goal on his birthday, on this date. So happy birthday, phil, and I hope you guys look forward to the interview that's coming up this week. Okay, welcome back.
Speaker 1:We are gonna jump right in to our Puck Bunny of the week and I have to apologize, first things off to this young lady, because I mispronounced her last name Over and over again and I you know what. I knew there was a difference, but I wasn't exactly sure what it was.
Speaker 3:I really really, really, really, really, really, really like girls.
Speaker 1:Hey, welcome to our segment we like to call Puck Bunnies, where we I take very attractive women or people that we have a tremendous amount of respect for, who are beautiful and add value to our lives, frankly, and we celebrate them. Okay, and, and this week, liam, yeah, we have a Puck Bunny from From Southern Ontario.
Speaker 2:No way.
Speaker 1:Yes, I, I think maybe she's originally from London, ontario, but certainly she she's from Toronto area. She went to university there, she went to York and she became Rachel McAddle oh you know, her no, never heard of her. Oh really, oh, just check out this picture.
Speaker 2:She is beautiful.
Speaker 1:And you know what she has, that she doesn't say, wow, that she's not like. You know what? You wouldn't go.
Speaker 2:Oh, the name does sound familiar actually.
Speaker 1:She was in the movie about time, she was one. She was in the notebook. You see that one. A lot of girls saw the notebook. You know you didn't see the notebook, chick flick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, there's a lot of chick flick, no fights, right Okay?
Speaker 1:There was a couple of fights in a couple fights. Yeah, you had to fight for her honor.
Speaker 2:I'm a throw-in eyeball.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's fast, I went through it and you know who was in that James Garner. Okay, he was a Rockford final yeah, james Garner Anything he was, he was mad Rick before he was ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But but Rachel McAddle, fabulous actors who has been in numerous like Sherlock Holmes, she was in Sherlock.
Speaker 2:Oh, wait a minute. That's why I know the name. Okay, yeah she was outstanding in Sherlock and she's outstanding as she has a yes, yes, yes, and she's not.
Speaker 1:You know what? She's not a buxom blonde or anything like that. She I didn't know she was Canadian. Yes, yes, oh, I'm even better. Yeah, no, she's, and she was. And there's another movie, but you know what I really like them, one of the films that I quite like, the movie about time, which, you know, it's one of those sleeper things that you never even think about. And then you see this, you go, wow, this is a great movie, right, and it's about this guy who could go back in time, or this, you know, and he could change his circumstances, time a little bit. Then he relives it and he goes, you know, but she is the girl of his dreams?
Speaker 1:Okay, she was also in the time traveler's wife there's a time traveling theme right there, but she is you know what? Just a Perfect Canadian beauty. Because she is not. You know, I don't say she's not flashy, because she, she could wear an evening gown like anybody, but she also looks like. You know, she's the type of person that you could see as your next door neighbor, yeah, and you could see as the girl down the street, okay. You could see as your own wife, for God's sakes, I'm seeing that.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. She's got everything. So I would say that right now now I mean without getting into more deal I don't know her at all.
Speaker 2:No. I'm expecting phone calls, maybe from her Well, as soon as she sees this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely She'd be, calling me, yeah, saying you know, chris, I didn't want to talk to you about our relationship, but this week's Puck Bunny, yeah, okay, is Rachel McCaddill Love it?
Speaker 3:I really really, really, really, really, really, really like girls, I like girls, I like girls, I like girls.
Speaker 1:Okay, welcome back. We've gone through a lot of things. Unfortunately, we don't have a Zamboni boy for this week, because that file was I don't know. I didn't bring it with me, so I can't upload it. So I do want to talk about a couple of things, though. First of all, we're going to get to a segment that we call Ask Liam, which everybody knows is where I ask Liam a question, and if he doesn't know the answer, he buys me a pitcher of beer, and if he does know the answer, we still have a drink. Here's a question. This is and I'm going to give you my reasoning behind this Okay, who was the last player in the NHL to record a 50 goal season while not wearing a helmet? Oh, I love this one, Okay, yeah, so my guess is this so helmets came in in like 1980, right Around that 79, 80.
Speaker 2:There you go. Well, mandatory to wear, right?
Speaker 1:That's what I mean yeah, okay, yeah, now you had your Craig McTavishes and Randy Carlisles and those guys who were still around.
Speaker 2:So Brad Marsh, Doug Wilson, Rod Langway, their last five guys.
Speaker 1:So now narrowing that down, it wasn't Brad Marsh.
Speaker 2:No, okay.
Speaker 1:So you know, and it wasn't Ron Dugay, no, no, but he, because he got 40, he had a 40 goal season yeah, but he didn't get 50.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:So I'm thinking about, but the only guy that I know that I can think of yeah, Okay With flowing locks he merely skated gingerly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, coming out, coming out rather gingerly coming out rather gingerly.
Speaker 1:I know this was asking me, but am I correct?
Speaker 2:No. I'm not, God damn it no but that's a fantastic guess and it is the guess that most people guess is Gila Flair because, as you said, his look and the hair and obviously a multiple 50 goal scorer and his last season was 1980, scoring 50.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And so it was he's very, very close, so someone after 1980. Yes, without a helmet yes.
Speaker 1:Scored 50 goals.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and he only did it once, but it was pretty significant. He played on a line with Denny Savard and Steve Larmer in Chicago former junior Hamilton Fincups and started with your Boston Bruins, Mr Al Secord.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I never thought of Al Secord as a 50 goals. Well, why would you? You know it's, it's. I mean it's like it came out of nowhere and certainly it was not that guy in.
Speaker 1:Boston. To be honest with you, he didn't even come to mind.
Speaker 2:Like when.
Speaker 1:I think of all those days, not even he. We were number two, didn't he? For a while in Boston. I know that's Brad Piper, Number 20. Oh, 20. Yeah, so he had a two in it.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, but, and super tough, super tough. Hell of a fighter became an airline pilot.
Speaker 1:Airline pilot after hockey yeah, yeah, start flying planes Lost his pilot's license because they had placed a net at the end of the runway and he cracked into it.
Speaker 3:No, one wanted to fly with him anymore.
Speaker 1:No doubt, no doubt, yeah.
Speaker 2:So so he's the last guy to score 50, because you know there's been 96 guys, that's a lot, almost a 1983.
Speaker 2:1983. Yeah, so three years after flower and, and you know it's, it's pretty cool. I think it's another. Really we've had a few in a row here now, chris, I think that have been really good anecdotal, historical type, which are the best, they are the best questions and other asking like how many assists somebody had in 49 or 84. So you know, let's just stop. But you know, even if the guy's a Hall of Famer who knows, his parents don't know, he doesn't know. But if there's something historical or anecdotal about a question or a number or a player or an event or something like this, then you've got the makings of a great question, which that is.
Speaker 1:Okay, I have one last question before we leave for this. Ask Liam Okay, yeah, in 1979, the club 54, ron Greschner studio 54 studio 54.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought is he being club 61?
Speaker 1:over an.
Speaker 3:Elmer comeback.
Speaker 2:How to get his name, because that was its address. It was 61 Rue Prince-Appel. The British hotel was 77, club 61, where unfortunately the servers couldn't afford clothes. It was 61 Rue Prince-Appel, really.
Speaker 1:That's. You know, these are the type of anecdotal you know questions, see, this is why. I know these things up. Okay, and welcome to the show. We have a great one. As I mentioned off the top, we are going to jump right into a segment of our show that we like to call shooting the shot with Hosmer Gwyer, and today we are finishing up shooting the shot with Ron Dugay, new York ranger, sudbury, wolfe and Hartthorpe.
Speaker 2:You're shooting the shot brought to you by Gib Patterson, but we're not leaving without getting some comments from you about off the ice in New York. I mean, you're so well known for so much more off the ice and some of the, some of the theatrics that were going on at the time, with Studio 54, for example, which is such a significant part of the nightlife, that became global. It became recognized globally. So can you just tell us a little bit what it may be if you were the range of teammates, what it was like when you went there, what you know what it was like to become Ron Dugay in New York, socializing, being on page six as often as you were? Okay?
Speaker 1:That's all great. I want to hear about the women.
Speaker 2:There we go.
Speaker 4:So I was introduced to student because it opened in 77, april 77, so I'm just not getting right. And sure enough, roger bears there and he knows everyone in town, his some of his good friends was was any werehole and everyone who knew any werehole.
Speaker 4:Yeah so he was introduced to studio before I was, and so at one point Rod say hey, come on, I'm gonna take you to the 54. Now I don't remember the first time I got there the first time, but I do remember as I went along I was. I don't say that I was intimidated by it, because you walk into this room and it was a theater like a regular theater, but they kept it dark and you walk in dark and then there was this beautiful dance floor With, you know, the disc, disco balls and that's right. There was an upper deck and all of that. And then so fuzz all around the dance floor and I can kind of remember, okay, it's not weird, it's just music and it's fun. And you've been to the rock dance, yeah. So I understood music, I understood dancing, and so it was kind of not a big deal, until you start really Recognizing some folks that were there, yeah, and you start getting introduced to people.
Speaker 4:So for me it wasn't until it was probably that season where I started to get some Recognition yeah and so, when that happens, and the one who gave me the most recognition because I got to meet Andy Well, I got to be around him, yeah, and meet a lot of the people that knew him, and that was many we just showed us and stopped at the autograph for you.
Speaker 1:No, no, no. They're portraits of Ron by, by Andy Warhol, but the book is the number one postmodern artist in in America. I mean, he's not, we're over now. It is is Like it's yeah, it's kind of dulling it down.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but I'm sorry, I get excited. So, just so you know, there's only three hockey players have been on the cover, so it was Roger there, the first, me, the second, who would be the third? Well, yeah, so it was great. So there's only three of us have been on the cover. He's put other athletes and so anyway, so in my.
Speaker 4:So I got, I meet some everyone, but it's kind of low-key, right, because I'm still not run to get you yet. So it wasn't an until Andy decided, you know, I'd like to put you on the cover of my magazine. I said, okay, whatever, whatever it takes, and I have some pictures of being in the studio. He takes Polaroid and all of that and so he puts them on the magazine. Well, everything, both, all the doors open, wide open. I can remember the week after I get a call, and back then it was golf in Western at all the Rangers, and so someone calls Steven Spielberg, calls golf of Western. We want to meet this guy. We're on the game just reading about him in the interview, want to meet with them. Okay and so, and I get, I'm kind of getting why she's. Well, he's getting ready to shoot this movie. It's called Raiders, the Lord of the Lost Ark.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't give you. If you tell me that you turn down a role in the Last Arc, I'll have to hit you with a bulldozer. Yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 4:I didn't, but I was. I was, I was being interviewed by him to see if he thought that I would, because I'm obviously hadn't done any active. But he'd like to find kind of Golden in the sand, right, yeah, just find that one person out of nowhere might fit the bill. So he meets me and I had kind of had no idea how to handle this interview. So I'm just kind of being myself. Actually it was kind of shine quiet, I'm being a little timid eight with Steven Spielberg, and so I kind of sat there and when I look back I would have done it completely different, like I would have gone there. It would have been colorful one, ron right Right but I was just kind of quiet.
Speaker 4:I think he saw me that I there was a not not enough in me to pull off that role, but he was actually. You know, harrison Ford ends up getting the lead role but he was considering me for that role.
Speaker 4:But the point is because of the cover interview. Well, we played her. After that, I'm, I'm going to a Fundraiser and I'm at this table and there, boss, and said, right in front of me and Ryan O'Neill and Farrell looks at me she goes, yeah, I just read about you and I'm like. I'm like, yeah, and this is beautiful, farrah. Yeah, this is sweet, sweetest can be, yeah, but she brought the anchor with her and I shouldn't say that he just passed away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's all very very nice couple.
Speaker 4:Anyways, she was in the city doing Broadway play. I think it's called burning burning bed, burning bed, yeah, broadway play. She was there for a little bit and she kind of said to me hey, you know, you know, if you want to come and watch you know the Broadway play, you welcome to come up. And I'm like, well, I'm gonna wait till he leaves town.
Speaker 2:So this is really offside.
Speaker 4:So I my wingman at the time. Why? A couple of John Mackinac you know and you know was Eddie meal. So Eddie's awesome. Yeah, you gotta interview any sometime because you want to hear about my life.
Speaker 3:Eddie remembers everything. I said, eddie, we're going to.
Speaker 4:Broadway play tonight. He goes. Why? I said, well, let's just go, it's fair.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, I'm coming so we go and I have no idea back there.
Speaker 4:No cell phones, I don't know how to communicate. I said, eddie, let's just go knock on the door on the green room. Well, sure that go. And they didn't actually let us go back there and there might have been one security. They recognized me. So I'm knocking the door for answers, right? And? And she was like happy to see me, and so, okay, and so, eddie, would always. I would tell Eddie, I said, if I give you a look, like a link, and so anyways, she says, well, what are you doing tomorrow night? I said, well, I don't have any plans. She's what you want to go for dinner. And so that's where the story ends.
Speaker 1:Here we go again, all right, so you know a fair of a faucet, all right we're just going to slow down. The cameras are shut off now. Okay, now what we're going to do, so that okay.
Speaker 2:Sorry. Well, I just got asked the wrong. Like all that's happening and Studio 54 is exploding, warhol puts you on the cover. How's relationship with your teammates? Like, how's is anything? Like? Are you missing curfew at all? Are you? Are you like, are they saying things in the room? I know you've got Lin, then you've got Neal, you've got Gresh, you've got some of the guys Barry, beck, barry.
Speaker 4:Beck Donnie.
Speaker 2:Murdoch. Well, Donnie Murdoch.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so Donnie Murdoch. On my second year I'd heard all about Donnie Murdoch and so because he was suspended for 40 games for, you know, doing illegal drugs, and so by the time he gets there I had heard everything about him. That's my first year. At the first 40 games, and sure enough, he said let's go to Studio. I'm like okay, and so him and I, we, we had a lot of fun. Yeah, and I'm not going to get into the details of it, but we had a lot of fun.
Speaker 4:It was really him, and then Barry Beck shows up, and then Barry would go Gresh. Most of the guys didn't want to go.
Speaker 2:No way.
Speaker 4:No, they would love to just go to a pub. Some of them lived in Westchester, like Steve Wickers wasn't going to go. Yeah, a lot of the guys didn't go. It was just me, barry Beck, a little bit of Greshner and Donnie Murdoch and that was it. So you know, as long as I, when I got, when I got the practice and that's the other thing, that's Espo when you talked to him, espo's responsibility was to make sure I got the practice. Really, yeah, he would. He'd have to pick up me and Donnie Murdoch in the city?
Speaker 4:No way, yeah, he'd have to make sure that we got there when he loved it. You know why he loved it. He goes. Okay, guys do not fall asleep. I want to hear about what happened last night and Espo would just we'd have to stay awake just to freaking. Tell him what happened the night before.
Speaker 4:Anyways, yeah, Espo was awesome that way, because that's what I said he was like he kind of took care of it, made sure we got the practice and you know. And then we got to have more fun with him on the road because you know we go out every night before the game. We're just drinking wine tonight, guys. That's it Okay.
Speaker 3:The whole table was full of bottles of wine. So everybody will come walk you out of there.
Speaker 4:Okay, we're just drinking wine today. We had so much fun.
Speaker 1:So one last question. Yeah, Okay, this is where you go to karaoke with your, with your guy. What's the song? I know it's. This is. This is top notch journalism here. Okay, what's your goal? If you had a karaoke song other than hockey sock rock.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, here's the thing with how my mind works. There's a lot of things that I remember don't remember. For good reason or bad reason, I struggle with remembering words to a whole song. I really do. It bothers me that I don't, maybe because I don't try hard enough. But I was a big BG's fan and Elvis. I loved Elvis and I love the BG's and because and Rod Stewart, that was kind of a music that was being played at studio 54 because it was disco.
Speaker 3:So I could not sing a whole song.
Speaker 4:I would have to practice and learn, because my, my, my brain just works differently. Some some are really good at remembering and retaining stuff. Yeah, I'm not. So I couldn't sing a whole song. I would have to do it.
Speaker 1:So you're doing a duet, you're going with a bunch of guys. What's the song?
Speaker 4:I, I don't know. It could be like I love hotel California. I love the Beatles also, yeah. Some songs are, you know, a lot harder to sing. But I wouldn't sing the lead, I would kind of be on the as a backup. So I don't have one in particular.
Speaker 1:You're a backup singer, I'm a, I'm a backup, don't be the lead, don't be the forward.
Speaker 4:But I'll be there just looking good and just.
Speaker 1:And give me a, give me a fake guitar. Exactly.
Speaker 2:Hey, ron, thanks so much. What a pleasure, what a pleasure. Yeah, yeah, absolutely pleasure. Thank you so much. Boom Okay.
Speaker 1:So it's been in the press a lot and I want to discuss this with Liam. Okay, so I'm going to talk about the the Kelsey what's her name there? Taylor Swift that people are all upset. They think that his barbaric caveman behavior is going to be the end of their relationship. I know I'm going to say this right now personally, and I know I don't give a shit about their relationship.
Speaker 1:Okay, I don't care about that, but I am sick and tired of people calling men, anytime they show any sort of aggression, cavemen and archaic and stuff like that. I just want to beat them with a fucking club. Okay, probably, that's probably a little aggressive. Okay, but the fact of the matter is is men, especially professional athletes, jacked up ready for a championship game, are going to be intense. They're going to show that they are competitors. They're warriors. You want a warrior who was like fucking Justin Trudeau and cry no. You want a man like Churchill. You want a man like Kelsey Mahon's win the goddamn Super Bowl. So, anyway, that's my point. I know Liam's going to say probably similar stuff, but we'll see what he has to say about that.
Speaker 2:I don't know. Taylor Swift and her football playing hubby there. Well, they're not married, but relationship. Because of Kelsey's screaming at the coach there on the sidelines. That picture went pretty viral in the Super Bowl, especially post event. I really don't care. I couldn't give two shits about them in that respect.
Speaker 1:Okay, welcome back to part two of our segment we like to call shooting the shot with Hos Mcguire, and today we are shooting the shot with birthday boy none other than Phil Esposito, sue St Marie born, another Northern Ontario boy, who had a 12 point game, I believe, in his junior year when he was playing in Hamilton. They're St Catharines. What a an incredible gentleman, what a great guy, and I have to tell you that, as I said off the top, sometimes when you meet your heroes, they do not disappoint. Here's Phil Esposito was shooting the shot.
Speaker 2:You're shooting the shot brought to you by Gib Patterson.
Speaker 1:Your impassioned speech in 72. Probably one of the greatest I don't know what to call it motivational speeches, but in Canadian history.
Speaker 3:No, at the time I didn't realize it because it just was coming out. I came close to swearing more than once to her. Yeah, and Esau saw it too. But as I thought about it years later, I thought about it years later what got me was the three or four guys that were in their 20s pretty sure yelling communism is better. And that look. Even right now there's a rush that goes through me. That absolutely pisses me off. Okay, it's not better.
Speaker 1:Why I think?
Speaker 3:we it's not freaking better.
Speaker 1:Could you please tell our current Prime Minister Well, that go-to brain.
Speaker 3:You got him, we got him just as bad. So I can't say anything.
Speaker 2:I wish.
Speaker 3:I could say more, but we got dumb dumb and you got dumb dumb. Senior our new junior.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, oh it's terrible.
Speaker 2:They ever know what dress he's going to wear next My- sister says I'm coming down to visit.
Speaker 3:I said no problem. I said you want to stay here permanently? She said yeah, well, maybe. I said well, and fly down to Mexico City, come to the border, I'll pick you up, you're here.
Speaker 1:Ha, ha, ha, ha ha.
Speaker 3:Well, because you know, I'm a Canadian American, I was born in Canada, so I'm a Canadian, I'm a Titan, descent no hey, wait, a second Esposito.
Speaker 1:is it the Calabria?
Speaker 3:It is Lots of people. While Dick Beto thought I was a Cuban, my old man threatened him. He said you ever call my son a Cuban again. I'll pull that derby down on you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that old derby, how do you say it? He said onto your shoulders.
Speaker 3:I'll never forget that. Oh, that's awesome. It was after the game in Toronto in 72. Yeah, beto's called me a Cuban bandit, but my feeling is that, if you, I watched three inaugural speeches in my life not to get too political because I've been in the States, you know, since 63, 64, went home to work in the summertime until I was 30, which these guys playing now can't believe.
Speaker 1:That you had to have a job that I worked in the summertime to make ends meet.
Speaker 3:I didn't make enough money. I mean, when I scored 76 goals, I don't remember, but I think I was making somewhere in the vicinity of 20 grand $20,000 a year, you know. So they had to work in the summertime. I drove bulldozers, eucalypts, prs, you name it. I drove it. But those three inaugural speeches I watched first. I watched John Kennedy's. I would have voted for John Kennedy and a heartbeat, yeah. I watched Ronald Reagan's. I would have voted for Reagan, for a heartbeat. And I watched his Obama's and I wanted Obama to come out and say I'm an American of African descent, but he didn't. He said I'm an African American and I shut the TV off because that divided us right away.
Speaker 1:That's a really good point. You know what I say the same thing at home about you know we are becoming very divisive in Canada as well.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:And growing up in Northern Ontario Italians, ukrainians, everybody. You know what I mean, but we all were Canadians.
Speaker 3:If you're born in Canada, you're Canadian.
Speaker 1:And you know what? And that's never going to stop with me and it's the thing, and I'm just extrapolating here.
Speaker 3:But I'm assuming.
Speaker 1:I mean I'm assuming I know a big word too, you know, I'm assuming that you probably feel the same way that when you have had somebody to your home for dinner, when you've broken bread with somebody, that's an extension of your family, like if you. And so when I would go to my friend's houses and have dinner with the family, and we were always together we were playing I mean, we were just kids, right, but we were playing and their mother was my mother and, believe me, their mother would give me hell when I did something wrong, not as much as they gave their own kid.
Speaker 3:No, that's for sure. My aunt, who lived across the street, slapped me more than my mother for breaking her windows playing hockey. But and he drew it, it's pow. I didn't know you had all these cameras too.
Speaker 1:Listen, it's a big time production.
Speaker 3:Big time, big time, big three cameras. I mean, you've probably seen this.
Speaker 1:Like you've done. You've done. You know color for great networks. You've been doing a lot of stuff for many years. Is this not the most exciting thing you've ever done?
Speaker 3:Absolutely. In fact, I'm so excited that I'm not sure I can get through it.
Speaker 1:Okay, welcome back. That was just a little teaser of a conversation we had. Well, the cameras was running, but we weren't actually starting the interview, we were just chatting Phil, such a great down-to-earth guy and, as you can see, very candid. So I look forward to the coming weeks where we're going to be showing excerpts of all that. All of our the Ron Dugay interview will be posted on our website as well as the complete one. I should say We've seen it in segments. The complete one will be posted on the website and for podcast very shortly, so I hope you enjoy those things.
Speaker 2:Our hockey pool, of course, by Hozi and Brown Automotive as we get ever closer to the end of the regular season, and somebody winning a free trip to Ireland Just incredible stuff. What's going on? So thanks to Hozi and Brown for that. Meet me next week a new sponsor as well, coming on board as people continue to flock to offside with Haas and McGuire.
Speaker 1:That is about it for offside with Haas and McGuire for this week. I've been Haas, I'm McGuire.
Speaker 2:We'll catch you later, g'day.
