Offside with Hawes and Maguire
Offside: with Hawes and Maguire is not your typical hockey show. This weekly
45-60 minute show is a potent combination of humour and genuine hockey insights that pushes the envelope.
- Liam is renowned for his photographic memory, lively storytelling, vast hockey knowledge and sometimes over-the-top passion for the game of hockey.
- Chris is known for his unrehearsed humour, contagious laughter and uncanny ability to make even the most serious debates end in boisterous guffaws.
Between the two, there is an infectious enthusiasm and professional chemistry that is evident from the outset. It can only be described as lightning in a bottle.
Offside with Hawes and Maguire
St. Paddy's Puck Party: Toasts, Tussles, and Tales of Hockey Heritage
Strap on your skates and grab a pint, because 'Offside with Hawes & Maguire' is here to merge the thrills of hockey with the revelry of St. Patrick's Day. We'll regale you with a toast that breaks the mold, and skate through the controversial ice of a young player's aggressive pursuit of hockey stardom. Prepare to be checked into the boards of debate over sportsmanship and the consequences of playing past the whistle.
Ever wondered what Carrie Underwood has in common with a Zamboni? In this episode, we shine the spotlight on the queen of puck bunnies herself, connecting the dots between star-studded support and the culture that breathes life into the rink. And keep your stick on the ice as we uncover Bob Hope's connection with the sport, drawing lines from past to present, from the Richard Riot to the historical droughts and breakthroughs in goal-scoring that define the tenacity of professional players.
Don't hang up your jerseys just yet; we're not done until we've shared an Irish ditty with our own Canadian flavour. As we close out our St. Patrick's Day special, we're sending 'Ask Liam' out with a bang and leaving you with an Irish blessing that's sure to warm your hearts. Here at 'Offside with Hawes & Maguire,' it's always more than just a game—it's a celebration of heritage, of jaw-dropping plays, and of a community united by the love of hockey.
It's offside with Hawes of Aguayre. Alright, are you ready? Alright, here we go. That was good. Hey, that was actually perfect.
Speaker 3:That was perfect, that was one of our better ones in a while.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what we're in sync.
Speaker 3:We are.
Speaker 1:Alright, we're like, actually we're like that boys band in sync, in sync.
Speaker 3:We were actually thinking of us, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Why wouldn't they? Okay, shlonsha to everybody. This is our St Patty's Day offside, with Hawes of Aguayre. I'm Hawes, I'm Aguayre. Alright, in case you didn't know? So we have. I just want to show my shirt. Tonight he's drinking for Ireland. Yeah yeah, that's the one night a year that he drinks for Ireland.
Speaker 3:Unlike the other night, other than 364 nights, yes, there's a lot of. I have 364 other different reasons to drink.
Speaker 1:That's right. There's a lot of countries that he actually drinks for, so we're going to do something by the end of the day. We're going to do a toast, okay, yep, to Ireland. Yeah, okay, for St Patty's Day, but we're going to toast it Not with Irish whiskey, which I thought I was going to bring down some Irish whiskey, but we're going to do something different. And you've had this. I have the Irish rum, thanks to you. Okay, the Irish rum was made by a distillery in Kinsale, which is right in your old head which you've played, which I have played, which is great, isn't that the most spectacular?
Speaker 3:Well, it's my number one course of all time.
Speaker 1:It's pretty close to mine, I have to admit that, and the only thing is is I like the fucking green fees there are. Just you know what I mean. Yeah, but it's one of those once in a lifetime things right, which I'll probably do twice, okay, but but anyways, this distillery that I've invested in, as you know, okay, made the very first Irish rum, and they make some really good Irish whiskey, which we'll talk about, and they will be for sale. You know, I don't even know what the price is.
Speaker 1:I was going to say it, but it will be someday when I'm done, it will be for sale, so so we're going to have that later but right now we're going to talk about hockey, and I want to jump right in, yeah, and we're going to do something we talked about last time, which was definitely going over some stuff from last time.
Speaker 3:Oh what are we going over? Oh, rent by 2.0. Well that's what I was saying. I was saying to the guys praises.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, hey, listen, I'm going to say something and I'm being a bit of a devil's advocate on this. Okay, listen, it was uncalled for. Okay, yeah, I get it, but nothing that Gordy Howe wouldn't have done through a few elbows in his day right.
Speaker 3:Suspend it three times yeah.
Speaker 1:So I mean I'm not saying, I mean this is like a kid. Yeah, okay, try to make it in a man's world and they're testing them.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They're testing them and you know what. Fuck them. You know what they're going to test the guy Everyone wants to go on Throw a fucking couple of elbows, fucking, give a couple of sticks, because you know what they're not going to respect them if he doesn't. That's my opinion, being devil's advocate.
Speaker 3:Well, listen, I, your opinion is fine and it's everything, but it's not quite related to this incident, obviously, right, I mean, this wasn't a defensive maneuver right, no, no, no, the offense here is going to make a hit. I do think I should say I don't think he was going in there initially, thinking as he went across the ice on a single hammer. However you say his name, that sledgehammer. Sledgehammer will call him that he was getting. Okay, I got him in a vulnerable spot. I'm going to catch him in the head.
Speaker 3:I don't, I don't believe that was his intent and, however, he did get four games where, as a first time, suspension and the type of nature of the hit and given the history of what we've already seen in the NHL this year, I thought three at the most they gave him four. Almost wonder if some of the antics afterwards might have added a game.
Speaker 1:Well, the the wave and the possibly you're.
Speaker 3:You know he should have fought McDermott. I know we're at the point right now where and to kind of steal your your word there, host, advocate here or play both sides or whatever. But I just sang the guy's praises on the show. I know I was explaining to people. I said I don't know where I've done been on so many microphones recently. But I said somewhere the day over the next day I said, by the way, if you watch the show as soon as Chris posted, I'm singing red page phrases by anyone else that night and gets a four game suspension and he looks like an idiot doing it Like.
Speaker 2:I just sang the guy's praises but you know cause you know, even if you're waving at the bench. Chris and he should have fought.
Speaker 3:McDermott. You know, at the very least, at the very minimal, when he fought Reeves it was after after Rampay had hit Labushkin. So you know he turned Reeves down initially because I think Lavie Lett was going dial it back. Kid, you got the rest of your life to fight, you know you don't have to go every single night. But he built this up so quickly, this rap, so quickly. It is big hulking giant and he's fighting. He's not even winning the fight, oh, he's not even wow, listen, he's not even winning though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he's not losing. The leader Not losing, but he's not winning.
Speaker 3:It's not like this isn't Boogard two point.
Speaker 1:He's fighting, you know.
Speaker 3:He's fighting.
Speaker 1:I know, but he's Listen. You give him a few years, a couple of rounds of steroids. I'm not saying that that kid will be. Yeah, he doesn't need to go on the steroids, no, exactly.
Speaker 3:Six foot eight, two thousand pounds. Thing is like Boogard came in and was destroying guys right away, like that's my point. They're same size, six, eight. They're almost identical height and weight, but the Boogie man you know God rest his soul, his impact in terms of like because he was doing fistic damage. I mean you listen to Andre Waugh. If he was sitting here, you remember Andre Waugh played the office centers he tells about fighting Boogard and the thought process that was going through his head was I need to bail.
Speaker 3:Well yeah, this is from Andre Waugh, who was not a small man, no, and who was a tough hombre and could absolutely go and he's engaging Boogard. And his thought was I'm getting the hell out of here. And he just, he just ducked a shot and used the excuse to go right down. He said this publicly. These guys aren't doing that with Rempe, they're beating him. But regardless, that's neither here nor there. I sang his praises. Then he went out and acted like an idiot. But he deserved a suspension. He'll be back, he'll be fine. I'm still a fan of the guy. I don't retract anything I said about his, what's going on in the ice when he's engaging and whatnot. And the elbow, like I said, I don't think he went over with the intent to absolutely take the guy's head off, but he caught him. He heard him deserved the suspension, should not have done the wave and should have fought McDermott. That's it, that's all.
Speaker 1:All right enough, said Okay, something else has to happen in the NHL. Oh, nedmonton, things are heating up. Yeah, things are heating up. Yeah, you know what I don't know, like this is gonna be a really exciting Canadian playoff. No, it's unfortunate. They're all in the West Right, well, except for one team, was it? What's wrong? Oh yeah, we don't even do it. Okay.
Speaker 3:I Really only came to the playoffs in the west.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, no, no. Here's the okay. The lease will make the playoffs, but I don't expect them to pass the first round, so let's just leave that. I got that.
Speaker 3:Got your Bruins, or the Panthers in the first round and and Toronto not have home Ice advantage. I'll tell you, it's just gonna be so delicious. Yeah, look at how they just dismantled Philly last night and all as we're taping this, and so that's most recent game and they just, you know, phillies on. It's something else Chris will talk about in a second. But I just cannot believe it. I'll talk about it now. Whatever the diversification, like teams, islanders want to pile the games in a roll and now they look like they can't beat, you know, a C team and and it's, it's unbelievable the Flyers who just have been solidly, you know, in sconce, there in that third position in the metropolitan, and Now they're looking fragile. They're looking fragile.
Speaker 3:I know all that goal last night. You three guys break a stick. I've never seen that before. Never, ever, ever have I seen that before. I was automatic was a can of corn. They put it in leaves, went on, easy win. But you're right. I mean, they're opening up, either against your Bruins, yeah, or the Florida Panthers. Last year, stanley Coppinalists and I got a fair.
Speaker 1:Your leafs aren't gonna be favorites there but anyway, okay, yeah, so, but what I was getting at is that is McDavey day, phenomenon, phenomenon, phenomenon, minimum, minimum, minimum. Cinnamon, this Justin, yeah, I mean no and all, but it just keeps getting better.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, I mean right now he's just marginally behind. It's gonna be just a delicious scoring race here because McDavey's got three games in hand right on on McKinnon, I should say Edmonton does on Colorado, and so because Connor missed some games earlier and then we all know we played hurt. That's the only reason he's not winning this thing by a country mile right now, because he got two points in 12 games or whatever, when he was nursing that injury. However you're, I mean, yeah, that three-point game. The other night he had a point. They took it away when they changed the goal, went off, gave Hyman the hat trick that gave him his 46.
Speaker 1:Oh, by the way Hyman used to be a leaf, right Used to be a leaf, they got rid of him. Fuck, we don't want that.
Speaker 3:Well, I couldn't afford him right, gotta pay the four guys well.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, the four guys who can't?
Speaker 3:afford Cadre, can't afford Hyman. You know you got to gotta ship these guys out because you can't afford them and and you know, I know we don't want to regress or digress here too much, but I mean, there's no doubt about it, dubious through that money at those guys Anticipating at that time the cap was gonna continue to rise three, four, five million just to give him a little bit of right, I know a little bit of rope there.
Speaker 3:At the end of the day, he still was throwing too much money at four guys and they've paid a price ever since and they probably will again this year. Yeah, don't think there's any doubt about that, but but it's uh it. Yeah, hyman was a leaf baby and he's gonna score 50 this year and he you know what. He embodies the word assassin. He is a hockey assassin.
Speaker 1:You know what? He works hard every friend shift.
Speaker 3:God never takes a shift off.
Speaker 1:And and he's got the skills, yeah, but he is you know what, like you don't? He's one of those guys that Makes a play happen. Yeah, right, yeah, like he's like the catalyst. That's what we should call him. That's his new nickname, the catalyst.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think you like that I do.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do like that we should send that in description.
Speaker 1:Who do we send that in?
Speaker 3:I know I don't know, holy Lift, you know I would know where to send it, to send it to a bar, and haven't been. Tell him we'll be right along, right after it.
Speaker 2:You know, I don't.
Speaker 3:I don't. I don't know, but I love him as a player. I love what's going on. The Oilers I'm a huge fan of theirs. I'm a huge McDavid fan and I just love what's going on there, largely because Skinner's playing well in that fight.
Speaker 1:Well, it makes a huge difference, right, it makes a huge difference.
Speaker 3:You don't win and you don't win the cup without a goal tender thing is, chris, it's just all moot right, because we just got to get through these next six weeks here and then start the chaos and that first round is just going to be. I Say this every year, of course, right, it's can't wait for the first round. I mean it's just gonna be amazing. These matchups are gonna be unbelievable and and it's still obviously long way from solidifying who opponents are going to be, but it's just gonna be amazing right now.
Speaker 3:Evanton, I mean they went on that 16 game win streak which propelled them into a playoff position, which they have comfortably held on to. They lose a few, then they win four more. Now They've got games in hand on Vancouver that they're actually maybe I mean it was mentioned on the broadcast. You the night Maybe saw it or heard it. I mean that they're talking about if they, if we win these games in hand, we'd be one point back of Vancouver for first. Like don't count us out. I mean they're talking that way, yeah, in Evanton right now.
Speaker 3:So it's really really exciting and it's just they're fueled by obviously dynamic duo. But just to your point, the catalyst, yeah, it's a trademark. I said I should Become another thing there and Hyman gets the hat trick the other night and the hat's all thing is the only thing. The stupid thing they did was Because the goal didn't go to Hyman. Originally I went to, I think, bouchard from the point, and so it hit Hyman in the shin pad, which took them about 15 minutes to determine over the course of the game.
Speaker 3:So they announced it's a hat trick with this, with the Oilers winning 6-2 or 7-2, whatever it was, would a minute 42 to go in the game right? So, 9,000 hats come flying down. That's stupid. And then just delayed the end of the game delayed the end of the game, but also you know what. That's where shit can happen. You know, you know, you're like you're well, you think why?
Speaker 3:are you doing it then? Like, wait the end of the game, announced it even the next day. I mean, you want to throw your high but you missed the opportunity. Or do it at the end of the game. Let the game anyway, small thing, but, but still delayed the game. But they maybe, I bet you were six, seven minutes before they drop the puck again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, you're watching. I know I didn't, I'm sorry, I was it was, but I was watching going home.
Speaker 3:Jesus guys, I I gotta get another pint. I'm is unfreakin believable.
Speaker 1:I mean the reality. You know what the reality is is. They wanted him to be able to have that celebration, and so they were doing it. They were doing it for him, and that's nice to do.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's, you know, under in hindsight, maybe because it looked very unsportsman like that's all oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, and possibly you know what, but I don't know. Whatever, let's go on so. So next thing is rock on. So also in that West, another team that cannot be counted out the Colorado Rockies. Oh sorry, the avalanche, the I saw the Nordic right. Sorry, what fuck? There's somebody, I don't know who they are. Okay, right, so well.
Speaker 3:McKinnon yeah, is the straw this through in the drink there? And obviously they're getting just incredible play from the car on the back end and, and Jared Bednar, I mean, hey folks, there was just there a couple years ago.
Speaker 3:Yeah so it's not like they fell off the turnip truck and forgot how to play hockey here and they've had a bit of an interesting season having they, because they're they're in a dogfight in their division. It's it's back and forth and up and down and all around there, really, with Dallas and Winnipeg. I mean it's just, there's no, we still. I don't know if you necessarily right now would be able to make it. Well, nobody could. You couldn't make a definitive pick. I don't think it matters. I mean, I don't think any of them care either. They're just gonna, they're just going, they're powering right through Colorado. Look very dangerous right now. Well, listen, folks, I don't. Well, this is gonna. I'm not sure where you're gonna air this, chris, but I mean this. We're taping this on Friday.
Speaker 1:It'll be. I'm hoping it'll be an actual st Patty's day.
Speaker 3:Okay, Sunday, Sunday so by if you're watching this, by then we'll have seen Edmonton, colorado or the late game on Saturday night. I mean, how delicious is that? Yeah, you got. Mcdavid and McKinnon are going hungry. I'm hungry for you hungry?
Speaker 1:No, but you've mentioned delicious a few times.
Speaker 3:I like yeah, yeah, this tastes so delicious, you know what? So this?
Speaker 1:is just want to say Wilson export. Ale, so does this redneck logger which, by the way, Give him a show.
Speaker 3:I gotta give a shot.
Speaker 1:He is a Ken's a great guy, and and the folks at redneck Bistro in Calabogi. Yeah, okay, Ottawa Valley spot, great valley down. You know what and if you're heading up valley down there.
Speaker 3:Let me tell you Was that John Wayne?
Speaker 1:I know it was so. You were so trying to do Don Cherry, but it sounded more like John Wayne. That's good, I'll take it, you know what I mean it's like yeah, I'm not gonna, yeah, the hell, I'm not that, yeah, that so. So, yeah, yeah, so what else? What we're talking about, I don't know, okay, doesn't really matter, okay, so what else? I don't want to mention something else.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just a just looping back very quickly, because we've touched on this almost every show about the suspension. So okay. Nhl was up to 21 suspensions. Chris All right 21. The average season is 25. I bring this up because of the Incredible outreach on Gallagher.
Speaker 1:I was you still have to come on?
Speaker 3:when everybody cried I know babies crying online all Brandon Gallagher, throw him out of the league, this and that I said there'll be 10 Suspensions after him. We're up to like six, not including Tortorella, yeah, and, by the way, there's been three other coaches fine, this year. Tortorella is the only one suspended. But this stuff that goes on, it happens. You know, it's big boy lead man. Yeah, put your big boy pants on and guess what? Sometimes bad things can happen. So if you get offended or if you get hurt or if you get scared, you know, I mean, find some place a little corner, you can hide and drink a cup of tea and just turn your head and all the bad boys will stop fighting or stop hurting themselves.
Speaker 1:All right, that's that, okay, okay, so. So I got. I got an email this week After the show, okay. So I was delayed in getting the episode up. It took a really long time. The first time I tried to upload it it didn't work. I had to reupload anyways. Long story short, it didn't get up until Yesterday, yeah, but someone says me an email, say hey, chris, where's the puck bunny?
Speaker 1:because I put a picture of what was going to be our a puck bunny on there, which we never actually did. Right when I put, just want to say that that was Selma Hayek, okay, and then in that bikini, I didn't know who that was.
Speaker 3:But I said 57, very nice 57 years old seven years old that that picture was taken on her 57th birthday. Wow, she did a photo shoot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's older than 57, but I mean like she's my one, right, you know everybody has that. You know, if someone, if a celebrity, is celebrity pass, I got that lunch pass or whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly what it is. Yeah, she's my past. She's been my past for years, all and and, and there's not a chance in hell, right.
Speaker 1:And even if she even ever know she's married to a Billionaire, is he? He's a billionaire. He's like, literally legitimately Billionaire, legitimately Billions, right, yeah, it's a lot, yeah, exactly. Anyway, there's not a chance. He's not a good-looking man, I will say that. But he's got a billions of dollars, right. So so that's the. That's one of the major issues that I have in the fact that I don't think I could have her. I see, but, but Kristen says if for some reason she comes to town and wants to sleep with me, yeah, I'm good to go. And, like I say this all the time, she's actually Kristen's at the point where if anybody else wants to sleep with me, she's alright with it. She's like do I got a night off? That's alright. She doesn't even. She wouldn't even consider it cheating. Okay, it's outsourcing.
Speaker 3:That's, that's what it is, so this thing is outsourcing.
Speaker 1:I'm being outsourced.
Speaker 3:I'll be back, honey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so. So that's the status why it, but it wasn't on last show because we're doing one for this show.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay, we're gonna do a puck buddy, somebody actually emailed in asking for the puck. Well, personally.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I called, said to me oh, okay, we do it respectfully and it's of interest, and I've had, and you know what I'm gonna tell you. You know who? It was actually a Lady who emailed me, and she's not a gay lady either. Okay, she's a lady who finds it interesting that we Talk about and celebrate women who have interest in hockey. Okay, so we're not actually doing Salma Hayek.
Speaker 3:Women of any interest in hockey. We don't know if we don't know if any of these women that we've talked about oh yeah, we do interest in hockey.
Speaker 1:Well, we are, we're gonna talk about one today, okay, okay, but so we're gonna spark, though with that, it's not it.
Speaker 3:That's the material.
Speaker 1:Well, so and so now, from now on. Yeah, I'm, I'm going to Draw the connection. Are you, yeah, to women and their and and Zamboni boy too, they're interested in hockey. Okay, so we're gonna. It's, there's going to be a connection. All right, bring it on. So we're gonna cut right now to our puck bunny of the week.
Speaker 2:I really, really, really, really, really, really, really really like girls.
Speaker 1:All right, welcome back to our segment that we like to call puck bunnies and where we celebrate Beautiful women who have made an impact in in our lives or in the lives of people, okay, but are also related in some way to hockey. You know what I mean at times at times?
Speaker 3:yeah, right, not always, but you know what?
Speaker 2:I mean sometimes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know, women we want to celebrate, that's right. But today, today, okay, we're going to celebrate a true puck bunny, a true puck bunny, a true puck bunny somebody married a hockey player. Mary the hockey player. She's a star like you don't get. I mean, okay, maybe Taylor Swift now, yeah, but yeah, carrie Underwood was the Taylor Swift of ten years ago, right, right, I mean, she was everything and she was dating a professional athlete.
Speaker 1:Slash married to a professional athlete, yeah, right and every time Fisher scored a goal yeah, which when he was in Nashville wasn't very often Okay, but but every time you scored they would cut to her and she was there all proud and and and yeah.
Speaker 3:And is she gorgeous? Just like Taylor Swift with Kelsey now. Is she not attractive? Yes, she's beautiful and I love the fact I'm still using her on the Sunday night football angel on the NFL. She does the song and and yeah, show my god, she's gorgeous. Mary's a Peterborough boy. They're good Peterborough kid there. Yeah, mike Fisher, it's awesome and and you know good on.
Speaker 1:Brian.
Speaker 3:Murray, to facilitate that trade.
Speaker 2:You know what that was a.
Speaker 1:It was a huge disappointment for Ottawa, though I think so for both the centers and the town.
Speaker 3:I use because mentally popular player. Oh, was he ever having her around? You know it was yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, and you know what?
Speaker 1:just having her come to town every once in a while, yeah it gave the people of Ottawa something to like, believe in and to strive. It was like it's possible that Ottawa, the sleepy town of Ottawa, could have a mega star Call it home, because they had bought it, they were building a house or they had a house out Like can add a. You know what I mean? Yeah, they transformed where the property was, if I'm not mistaken, and he owns, still owns part of into that skating, outdoor skating thing like a pads. Oh well, that's what Chris Neal's done Well, chris, maybe partly.
Speaker 3:So maybe I guess, yeah, I don't know, I've never seen that property and I could be wrong. I thought yeah, chris Neal has that on it. Prop, yeah, some property that he owns, or I'm not sure details, but he has that but yeah, I know Kerry. Marys meets Fisher, marys Fisher, she is the ultimate Ultimate buck money.
Speaker 1:She's one of them, though there are many others and we'll get to that over this did she not appear on?
Speaker 3:and when America's got talent, tell you she won the American Idol. I think she's American Idol was like either the first or the second.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think the first winner of American Idol and and just well like, well deserved, absolutely well, yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean not a show I watch religiously, but if you look at her success professionally, clearly no so would have been legit and you know what and I know that they listen to things and you know what.
Speaker 1:But you know, here's the the thing, and I this is gonna get kind of. You know, when you listen to a voice, yeah, and it Resonates with your body. Yeah, okay, there are certain people who have a voice that that just reaches people and she has that voice. There are a lot of artists who did. Frank Sinatra had that voice, dean Martin had that voice, Okay, that people would just listen. Elvis Presley was the greatest voice, definitely. When it came, it resonated with people. Elvis Presley, you know, and I told you this while we were in Florida, right, okay, elvis Presley, but I said Frank Sinatra said one time that he could have a hit song With any song at all, including you. Remember what the song was the jingle bells.
Speaker 3:No old McDonald, oh McDonald's. Yeah, old McDonald's, and he did yeah charted with old McDonald had a farm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because people loved his timber, they loved his voice and they knew he was a star, so anything he touched was gonna be cool.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah and but, but carry on to what has that you're saying has oh absolutely.
Speaker 1:She has that. Whatever, it is that secret note. Yeah that Leonard Cohen might speak of. Yeah, that secret chord. She has that in space, but you just listen to her voice and it's like, wow.
Speaker 3:I don't listen to her music so I don't you know, but I certainly admire her beauty.
Speaker 1:Yes, well, and you know what? It doesn't hurt that she's attracted, yeah, okay, but I actually respected for that. Like I say, that voice is incredible.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, it's no doubt it's got a great voice. I just not a, you know. I mean, music is a very personal thing. I'm not a necessarily fan that's of her, of her songs, but I certainly her voice.
Speaker 1:No, it's not a fan of my music.
Speaker 3:Very, that much we can definitely.
Speaker 1:But I, you know what you know six days In the car making them listen into my playlists, and he was gracious the whole time. Oh, he did. He did get out, drive his head through a plate last night, all right. Well, that's been our puck money episode for the week. It was Carrie Underwood Of the Underwood Fisher family, that's right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not the typewriter family. No, I really really, really, really, really, really, really, really really like girls.
Speaker 1:All right, we're back and, as you can tell, we did Carrie Underwood from Nashville, ottawa, nashville, mrs.
Speaker 3:Mike Fisher.
Speaker 1:Mike Fisher, mrs Fisher. Miss Fisher think she goes by that name. No, I she doesn't. She doesn't go. You know, she does wear fishnet stockings every once in a while.
Speaker 3:I'll see something that's that's Sunday night football introduction. Is this spectacular?
Speaker 1:I see I don't you know what and I know I'm gonna. You're gonna think this is horrible at me, but I don't watch NFL. I'm not a NFL.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm not huge and so watch.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I haven't seen that. I'm not crazy fan about it, but yeah but it's um. I Like the playoffs and, yeah, watching the Super Bowl, but yeah, I like the food at the Super Bowl. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Lots of good dips tailgating is you know what I mean? Oh well, yeah, so that that is a whole different thing, right?
Speaker 3:It's the experience of the show onto itself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, so, so anyway. But now we're going to cut to our Zamboni boy. All right, he Okay, welcome back. We are doing our Zamboni boy Of the week and you know, I'm gonna totally surprise you with who's a boy.
Speaker 3:Okay, Wait.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna get you turn around. Turn around, okay, if you can, okay. And look at the signed autograph picture with this. The littler one, that's, but it looks like Bob Hope. That's correct. Yeah, our Zamboni boy of the week is is Bob Hope.
Speaker 2:I love it.
Speaker 1:Okay, and I'm gonna tell you why I chose Bob Hope because the Academy Awards there is a golf connection, but there's hockey connection to. Oh, that's a huge hockey connection, all right, so so, first of all, bob Hope the Academy Awards were just last week. Okay, so Bob Hope Hosted the Academy Awards Irish actor 19 times, daddy 19 times. He's the, the person who has hosted the Academy Awards more than anybody else. That's the first thing.
Speaker 1:Second of all, never won an Academy Award himself. Okay, okay, I hunt like tons of movies, all that stuff never won an Academy Award because they were traditionally didn't give Academy Awards and don't give Academy Awards to comedies, right. So it's not not like the road movies, yeah, are gonna be. You know, me is used for that. But but a couple things he he has been given for Honorary Oscars, for life achievement, yeah, etc. Etc. But what a lot of people don't know is that he actually was I don't know how to say this important in the winning of two particular Oscars. Okay, okay, for best song, really. So he's saying the song in the movie, okay, that one best original song, two times, okay, and so the first song, yeah, I'm sure everybody knows it. What's the song that's most familiar with the?
Speaker 3:memory.
Speaker 1:Thanks for the memories. 1938, big broadcast of 1938. He's saying that and then later on, probably about 10 years later, he ever see the movie Pale Face, where he's the dentist painless Potter.
Speaker 3:Don't know. Okay, I think so. Anyways, pain violence?
Speaker 1:No, but the song is buttons and bows. Okay, you know the song Well hey you know what I mean. Yeah, a Western ranch is just a branch of nowhere junction to me. Give me this city where living's pretty, in the guys where fine, or reed. You know, you know that one. Okay, all right.
Speaker 3:So uh, you have it on a CD, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I actually do so. So just so you know, I like show tunes, but I'm not gay. Not that there's anything wrong with it, but I'm not gay, okay, so so now I you're saying I love this choice, I love it.
Speaker 1:Well, I do love, I love Bob Hope, right and so, and and and he did more us, so, like he was a huge supporter, well, you're background and my background. So I, and and when I entertained troops, okay, overseas, yeah, you know I, I actually that's where I got the, the autograph picture I said I'm going on my first tour, yeah, okay, the Canadian forces personnel services, right, okay, but I'm going over to, I said you know what I am very proud to continue on blah, blah, blah. Anyways, he sent me a nice letter and whatever, and he was in his 90s. Probably at this time, like this was, I don't know, in the 90s, whatever it was. So in the 90s, he was in his 90s. He was born in 1903.
Speaker 1:There, you go by the way born Leslie Towns Hopes. That's alert. Let me try that again. Yeah, leslie Towns Hope. Okay, okay, changed his name to Bob. Yeah, just so you know, because it was easier.
Speaker 1:he wanted it to be, you know a regular guy, Standard fair Hollywood but he didn't change his last name, no, and, and so I Want to tell you about some of the hockey connections, yeah, so first of all and I didn't know this and I was a I am a huge Bob Hope fan and I liked, first of all, total womanizer, right, okay, he was married two times, allegedly okay, so he may not have actually been married the second time to his wife, dolores, okay, so that is a there's because, legally anyway, because his divorce had not finalized from his first wife, okay, and there was a whole kerfuffle over that, but it was hidden.
Speaker 1:You know, I mean, we're your star, but he had more mistresses, that and and every time he'd break off with a woman he'd give her a fur coat, and, and, and. So every any time they saw a fur coat this is 1950s, let's say, okay, they'd see a, saw a woman walking in a fur clothes, oh, I guess Bob's back in town, okay, and he had some very long-term relationships that are mistresses as well, okay, and you know he was just, you know he was that kind of guy, but so tough guy too. You didn't know this. He was a boxer when he was younger.
Speaker 3:I did know that. You didn't know that. Yeah, I'd heard that. Read that somewhere years ago.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I knew he had some boxing background in him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so, and a hell of a dancer, not a bad dancer, yeah, he's not a bad dancer. He had some footwork. Yeah, he had some footwork. But I'm gonna get to the hockey connection, yeah, okay. So there's a couple of things. First of all and this is like, this is a la lia Maguire, by the way, I'm going with this the you know variations of number four and yeah, and you know, and I don't know whether I can Figure eight, I don't even know you the way you go things. Okay, so Bob Hope came to Canada quite a bit. Now there is this story, which has been disproven in the fact that he once said that he learned to play golf. The first time he ever played golf was when he was on tour in Canada, in Winnipeg. It was not the case. He didn't play, and everyone likes to say it was at this course in Winnipeg, but the reality was that was in February.
Speaker 1:That he was there he wasn't playing golf in Winnipeg in February, but on that same tour he did play golf in Seattle and at one point he got it mixed up with his stories because he was talking about that. So anyways, there's this big thing, but you know, but there was a Canadian connection. He used to come up to Canada a lot, especially in the Vaudevillian days, like he was a vaudeville guy, yeah, yeah, okay. And then post vaudeville they would come and they would still travel around and do that. And so well, in the RKO radio days, when they would send these guys around and they do the radio show from different places and all that stuff, winnipeg was a big spot, toronto was a big spot. So he went there often. So he actually became a bit of a Toronto Maple Leaf fan, much to my chagrin.
Speaker 1:It would have been winning a time in those days for him, and so, and I even have a picture and a post-it of him wearing a Leaf jacket. Okay, okay Now, in 1967, there was this thing that happened in the NHL, right, yeah, it's called an expansion.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right.
Speaker 1:Okay, and.
Speaker 3:LA got a team.
Speaker 1:LA got a team, but he was not an investor, even though he was a sports owner. So Bob Hope used to own the Cleveland Indians, okay, okay, and the LA Rams with Bing Crosby.
Speaker 3:I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, that's people. A lot of people don't know that. He saw they sold in 1962. They sold the Rams out, like his portion of the Rams in 62. Bing kept it longer, but then then he was the Cleveland Indians owner, which a lot of people don't know. Okay, but he was also very interested in the LA Kings. But the group that got the LA Kings wasn't interested in Bob Hope, because Bob Hope was also known as one of the shrewdest business guys around. Okay, and when, when, when he passed away, he was the largest single individual person landowner in California. Wow, that's how, like how, he put all his money into that. Now, but here's his interest in hockey. So he heads off to and he, he actually did a couple of shows for and met up with the St Louis Blues.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, of which he did a charity event for them, okay, and they gave him a 90. So inaugural season hockey stick Red Barrington's hockey stick, by the way, cool Okay, signed by all the players on the team. Wow, okay. And a puck, yeah Okay, which he kept in his office until he died. That's very cool, okay.
Speaker 3:Very.
Speaker 1:So now there's a little sidebar to this the captain of that 1967. This is not an Ask Liam thing, but that 1967 St Louis Blues team, you know the captain ones, yeah.
Speaker 3:Hold on. I think it was Al Arbor.
Speaker 1:It was served Al Arbor. Yeah, where is he from Northern Ontario? He is a Sudbury boy. Yeah, okay, he was my first boss.
Speaker 3:Come on.
Speaker 1:No, we're a lie. Yeah, al Arbor and Stu Duncan owned Sports Unlimited. Yeah, and I was, I was, I was actually helping my dad do stuff Right, and I got to meet them and and they said, oh yeah, and I had you know. So they gave all these young prospects a job like working in the warehouse, working in the store or whatever, and so I had a job working in the warehouse, just getting stuff when they needed stock, when they needed stuff. So it was like once a week cleaning, doing all that stuff. But that was my first paycheck I ever got was from Sports Unlimited.
Speaker 3:I don't know if you've ever shared that with me. No, I probably.
Speaker 1:why would I but?
Speaker 3:Well, because Al Arbor was your boss.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know that, but I mean, well, stu Duncan was my boss, but Al Arbor was the.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah he was the owner. He was an owner.
Speaker 1:He was the owner. He and Stu Duncan both owned it, yeah, but yeah, I mean, it was pretty cool, yeah, yeah, it was pretty well. I, you know, and so, sadly, me and the other guys who were there, we would basically fuck. It would like, literally, and it's a warehouse full of sticks and, and you know, and they supplied the sticks to the wolves at the time, they were wow and literally we played fucking ball hockey yeah. All they want slightly used. Yeah, yeah, so so, anyhow, yeah, it was fun, so so that's it so.
Speaker 3:Arbor is the captain of St Louis.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hope gets a stick from, so Arbor would have presented it, arbor would have presented it, and I mean I don't have a picture that it's one of Baronson sticks and and that's when it would have been presented. I don't know. I don't know that. I just know that that's because when Bob Hope died yeah, okay, he passed away and and you know that I have a long standing connection with Palm Springs- yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, and, as a matter of fact, where our house was in Palm Springs was around the corner from Bob Hope's original house Okay, okay, on Alameda. Okay Okay, in in Palm Springs, and I used to go by and I would dream about, you know, like I'd like to own that. Wouldn't it be cool to own his first house? You know what I mean. Okay, now there was also the Bob Hope house, the famous, you know, lotter designed spaceship house. I don't you never been to Palm Springs, right? No, oh well, you got to go because you like golf. But this beautiful house that was built in the 70s, that it was like a spaceship, okay, and he didn't like it. Bob Hope never actually liked it, but his wife wanted it. So, whatever they got, you know, and he was this famous house, okay. So when he passed away, the house went up for sale. Bob was buying it. They're going to do it.
Speaker 1:Also, his house that he lived in in Toluca Lake in Los Angeles was also on the market. Both houses bought by Ron Burkle, owner of the Pittsburgh Penguins, along with Mario Lemieux and still minority owner with Mario of the of the Pittsburgh Penguins. Lots of hockey connections there, cool, okay, and you know what? Not one fucking mention of the Montreal Canadiens. All right, so I'm going to find out very soon. So I don't even know what else I can tell you about. I mean, I can tell you a lot more, but this has gone on long enough. Okay, bob Hope probably the household name you know went on more USO tours. Yeah, okay, entertain troops in battle zones was fired at, shot at. You know, when he survived with all, he left his family at Christmas time to go to do these things because he truly believed what the men and women in the armed forces were doing was was valuable and what he could bring if he could lighten their day.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Yeah, and and and, frankly, he was made an honorary, you know, sure Commission within the US military and they offered to bury him at Arlington, at Arlington cemetery. Really, yeah, holy yeah, they didn't. He's not buried there, they did not, but but they offered to bury him at our Arlington cemetery. That's how important he was.
Speaker 1:Household name. There's not a person who didn't know it. No, I'm going to tell you a story. So I'm I'm shooting an episode of Flatbed Tonight.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a couple of years ago, okay, and I've got a couple of crew people there and you know, and I make some comment about you know what I mean. Yeah, like, I've done a tour and I, you know what I mean, I'm the Canadian Bob Hope. Hey, you know, okay, and they go who and I go Bob Hope, and this person's about 30 at the time, right, and, and the who says this. I said you know Bob Hope, the like, the probably the most popular comedian in the history of comedians, maybe not the best, but certainly the biggest household name. No, and I turned to somebody. I said okay. I said you know who's doing the sound. I said do you know who Bob Hope is? Ben, oh, okay, none of them knew who Bob Hope was, and I thought to myself well, that's it. Fuck. There's no hope for any of us, because if you can't remember, if the next generation does not remember Bob Hope, who the fuck are they going to remember? Like they're not going to remember me?
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, exactly you know what, if I tweak a bit, maybe if you tweaked more or twerked, it's twerked right, it's just a time passage thing, so it's all it is, chris, I know, but it's just as somebody who I grew up, I like listen. I watch those road movies, boy.
Speaker 2:We're off on the road to Morocco. This taxi is tough on the spine.
Speaker 1:I mean I I loved Bob and Bing. I like that whole thing that era. I was born in the wrong time, I know that, there's for sure, but I mean I just I was flabbergasted. But all that being said, you know what he was? A real guy. He was absolutely on top of the world, probably the greatest and most famous comedian ever. Yeah, okay, yeah, and so our Zamboni boy for the week Love it, leslie Towns. Hope, bob, hope, hey, welcome back to offside with Hos and McGuire. I am Hos, I'm McGuire. Okay, so now we are jumping right in to another segment of our show. You're touching your breasts an awful lot today.
Speaker 3:It's like it's just in advance of somebody else doing it.
Speaker 1:It's not going in like little slow circles, though that's the I mean that would be more distance.
Speaker 3:He really wasn't trying to do that. I was just trying to show off the great. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:Well, we should talk about that, actually, you know what? So here's the thing. So you, obviously, layne McGuire is of Irish descent.
Speaker 3:I'm first generation.
Speaker 1:You're first generation, I much further back and on both sides, have Irish in me, how's do I, okay, yeah. My wife, on the other hand, even like she's ridiculous Okay, irish, okay. So we, I always identified with being Irish. As we grew up, we identified with being Irish. So I take the DNA test, that. What was it called? Ancestry? Yeah, ancestry.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, this, I did it too.
Speaker 1:Okay, this is about 10 years ago. Okay, I don't know how, maybe not 10 years ago, but first time I take it and I come back and it comes back as only 39% Irish. Okay, liam, I was in a depression for a fucking like a month. It was unbelievable. I was so depressed because everything that I had believed and now it is the largest portion of me Right, but everything I had believed in my soul I was now questioned but it's the largest portion, though it's the largest portion, but I was still like I'm only 39%, it's not even half Right. And then I've got Scottish you are no, no, no, I know that. And I've got a lot of French, canadian, yeah Well every generation is going to.
Speaker 1:Well, he's going to what? Not my wife? My wife hasn't been watered down. She's 99% Irish. There's you can't get higher. There's not. There's Irish people who were living in Ireland. I don't like she's got nothing. The only 1% that she has is, I believe, when Saint Patrick fucked her great grandmother. I'm not, you know, quite sure. Maybe it was a great great grandmother. I'm not sure, because Saint Patrick wasn't actually Irish. I know, I know so, but anyway, all that being said, is that it is higher percentage than mine. No, it's crazy.
Speaker 3:And it's in the 90s.
Speaker 1:You know well and you know her name, her middle name, and I won't say it because of the whole like identity theft thing.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, but it's Gaelic.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:It's a Gaelic name, yeah Right, and that's they named it anyways. Yeah, long story short, she, I don't know, I don't know why this story is short. It should go much longer. We should take this, stretch it out, stretch it, okay, like like sea toffee, like sea candy. You know that.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I like that stuff, by the way, all right, no, we were. We're going to talk about you, were. You're doing that, the Irish thing. So do you want to do a toast right now? Yeah, Should we do a toast right now?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:All right, okay, we're going to like take a second, I'm going to go and bring the glass and we're going to have a toast, okay. Okay, all right, we're back and we're going to a little toast. To Ireland, okay, and we're going to do it with the blacks of Consel, okay Distillery, where I have a little investment. So if you want to go and support them and buy some of their stuff online and stuff will, we will be shipped and I think I get about a quarter of a half a cent, but you know some you can will the kids.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. So this is actually Irish rum, okay, Not Irish whiskey, and I'm a big Irish whiskey fan, yeah, but I know that you're a rum guy, yeah, so that's why I'm doing this. So let me just put the lid on this. Let me just put a lid on it.
Speaker 2:Put a lid on that you know.
Speaker 1:All right, it's. You know what we need. We need a staff.
Speaker 3:We do need a staff. Like to personally go through the process of hiring them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you know what? They're not waitresses, so you know. And they're not working at that spa where Dugay goes in New York. Oh, no, no.
Speaker 3:We're going to get them out of the bars there where they're working right now and they're so damn broke they can't afford clothes.
Speaker 1:Well, this is the thing, All right. So do you have an Irish toast that you'd like to give? Well, no, you don't.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I'm going to toast my father.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, here we're going to fix your microphone too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, okay so we're going to do an Irish toast Yep to your dad. Is that what you're going to do?
Speaker 3:Well, I am, but you should do one as well. You have enough Irish connections to you Well yeah, but I'd you know to have. I'd like to toast our trip Okay which trip?
Speaker 1:The one you want. Oh, we're going to Ireland. Oh yeah, okay, so we'll toast that, toast that and toast my. We'll toast the trip to Ireland, we'll toast it.
Speaker 3:My father was born and raised in Dublin.
Speaker 1:There you have it.
Speaker 3:I've been many times and I'm looking forward to going back and I'll go a few days early and myself and Dougie Hume, we're going to hook up with my Maguire cousins.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that would be nice, and I have a few great nights with them.
Speaker 3:And then my dad's best friend was a man named Albert McFarland from the north of Ireland, and his son, john, still lives there and he's going to meet up with us too. Really, yeah, oh that's nice. He's going to come and see us at some point on our tour there when we hit the north, and he's a beauty guy.
Speaker 1:And where's he live?
Speaker 3:He's somewhere in the Belfast area.
Speaker 1:Oh really.
Speaker 2:Oh geez yeah.
Speaker 3:We're going to see him at least once or twice. His name's John McFarland. His dad was Albert, who was on the Northern Ireland amateur boxing team 1947. Before he came to Canada he was a diesel mechanic and he ended up in Stonem, quebec. He met my mom and all her sisters and her brother John and the family and everybody. My dad came along a few years later and they hooked up. I mean, imagine, two Irishmen come all the way across the ocean, they meet up, they become best friends. Now, how old would he be now he's passed away too. Oh, okay, yeah, I believe I think my dad was born in 1929. I think Albert was born in 27 or 28. He was a year or two older Okay.
Speaker 3:And John is his son, john's his son, yeah yeah, yeah. John's his son and so yeah, he's in his fifties. He'd be like probably toward the late fifties now.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:He's married, been married a long time. Great family, great guy. You're going to love him.
Speaker 1:He's got a lot of beauty, but his sisters, as long as he's not a real cunt, and I say that because you know what. Here's the thing In Ireland, especially Northern Ireland, you can call a person a cunt in a loving way, right? It's not a word that we use here, I wouldn't know, but it's used all the time. You can't get offended by some of the things that people are going to say, right.
Speaker 3:Well, I've been out and have popped the hop to cross that great country. I got to say I have never heard anybody use that expression. Really no.
Speaker 1:Oh, you got to spend more time.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well, I don't know. I mean, yeah, I guess I could go longer and drink more, but I don't know if that's possible, but I've never heard that expression.
Speaker 3:But I've never. It's a very unique place. If you've never been Now, I know you've been many times, but it's a very unique country. Even I was talking about it even as recently as last night Some people about our upcoming trip and some people there had been and gone. Guys had gone, family, wives or whatever different trips golf trips as well and it really it's like a time machine. Once you get outside of Dublin, dublin's very cosmopolitan now it's very touristy and it's still a great city and it was. You know, I would say there's a thousand songs you could play, a thousand songs you could listen to, but Dublin in the rare old times is probably the one that has the most significant association to my father.
Speaker 2:There's some songs and stories. Heroes are renowned. All the passing tales, glory. Once was Dublin town.
Speaker 1:Well, how old is that song? Is it not from that era? That's what I was getting at.
Speaker 3:Well, no, I actually don't know the entire origin of it, to be honest with you, but I don't believe it is Chris. I think it's just post that era, really. I think it's a little bit more about Dublin. Mostly I could be totally wrong here, but I think it's largely predicated on sort of the era that my dad grew up in.
Speaker 1:I think you know which is 1930s Dublin 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, dublin.
Speaker 3:That was when Dublin was my dad's backyard. You know, every summer he would go to the town of Kilcullen. The parents couldn't wait to get the kids out of the house and they'd scattered to different family places. My dad's cousins were the Nugents in Kilcullen. Kilcullen is still a small town. It's a very small little town back then, as you can well imagine, in the 40s, and the River Liffey comes out, runs right through it, and there was a big, big, big, big forest.
Speaker 3:My dad would just go in there and spend the day in there. He'd hunt for rabbits, he'd fish, he had a dog and he told me. He told us the story so many times, so many, many, many times. And finally, when I went there in 1994 on my honeymoon, I took Liz there and we went to Kilcullen. We went up to the Nugent door and we knocked on the door, didn't even tell him we were coming, just knocked on the door and one of the Nugents opened and said you know, said sure, you look just like your dad and you know. And they recognized me as a Maguire it wasn't quite sure my name and explained what was going on. They brought me in, they took me out back and said there's where your dad used to run as a little boy. You know, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:It's pretty cool to see yeah, pretty cool to see Thousands of miles away from the cars road where I grew up, had my youth. So I toast dad, toast our trip, and toast everybody via having a little bit of Irish, whether it be 39% or Kristen's 99% or my own 93%. Everybody's got a percentage of Irish in them on the 17th.
Speaker 1:And you know what, and we're hoping that a lot of women get a little bit Irish in them as well.
Speaker 3:Here's to that slant Up the Republic.
Speaker 1:Hoorah. Okay, we are back from having assaulted our liver. You know what the benefits of having lost a lot of blood?
Speaker 2:You know, what?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, Apparently you can get drunk fast. That's how guys. They go to the Red Cross, they give blood and then they go drinking. So I had a couple of drinks the other night and it works.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you've become a cheap drunk.
Speaker 1:I always was a cheap drunk. That was just referring to me not wanting to pay for my drinks.
Speaker 3:I, on the other hand, seems to take an inordinate amount of time All right, well, that's well it's.
Speaker 1:you know what it is, it's training.
Speaker 2:I am a training professional. You know what it is.
Speaker 1:It's like altitude training for athletes. Yeah, that's what you're doing, okay, so what else are we going to talk about? Oh, you know what we're going to do, oh, so okay. By the way, this is our St Patrick's Day week version of this week in hockey history, right?
Speaker 2:Okay, welcome back.
Speaker 1:We are now going to do our this week in hockey history. Okay, the week of March, the, let's just say, the 15th to the 19th. Is that all right with you? Yeah, okay, wow.
Speaker 3:Got to start.
Speaker 1:That's only four days Starting on the 13th March 13th. Yeah, march 13th to 19th, I'm doing the whole Rock and Reshard incident from 55. All right, so hang on a second. You're doing something related to the Montreal Canadiens.
Speaker 3:I wasn't going to because it's so rare I get a chance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, uh. So let's do this Okay. So tell us okay this week in hockey history, a moment, a snapshot in time yeah.
Speaker 3:I got to tell you I read something for the first time. Stan Fischler I know you know the name the hockey maven who's mostly retired. He still submits a column. I believe he's living in Israel right now. He's moved there permanently, but he writes or sends a column still to NHLcom.
Speaker 1:Oh, does it yeah.
Speaker 3:And he's still doing a little bit of stuff and he ran recently an interview he did with Rocket Richard talking about the riot and I had never seen that before.
Speaker 2:Oh really.
Speaker 3:So this is actually Rocket. Talking about what happened, the lead up to it, the incident with Hal Laco, and he detailed the whole thing, which started in Boston on March 13th. He got into a scuffle with a former teammate of his named Hal Laco. They came together, they hit each other. They were pissed off at each other. It was going to escalate. Laco caught Rocket with a stick and the one thing that out of many that used to send the Rocket into another stratosphere of anger was if he saw his own blood. If he saw his own blood he'd go crazy At. Laco cut him. Rocket went crazy trying to get at him. Now in the story to Stan Fischler there's no mention of the Rocket, which I have read other eyewitness reports and I have interviewed at least six to eight people who were on the ice in that game. Okay, okay, from 1955. Rocket broke a couple sticks over guys.
Speaker 3:And the line in that game in that incident In that okay.
Speaker 3:How's that thing was going to DEF CON 4? Rocket's trying to get at Laco Starts to center ice goes over by the boards where it's just disintegrated. Rocket's trying to get at Laco Linesman Cliff Thompson jumps on Rockets back. So he's on his back. Yeah, so Rocket thinks it's a player, right, right, and you know, like he pointed out in the story, it's another thing that I had forgotten all these years and I've talked about this so much. I'm reading these are Rockets words. It was so cool. Hey, cliff Thompson was a former Boston Bruin, like that was the norm in those days. Right, you're retired. A lot of the guys came classy, like many guys.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, they became officials, yeah anyways, thompson was a former Bruin.
Speaker 3:He jumped on Rockets back. Rocket Shrugs him off and gives him a shot, like he just turned and gave him a shot. He, he wasn't that. He was definitively trying to hit an official.
Speaker 1:No, at the end, after he did that shot, did he go off? Did he know, did he realize?
Speaker 3:he, I'd have to reread the story. To be honest with you, if he, if he expressed Written or thoughtful regret on the on the actual because I've been in a situation where I did, I believe I may have.
Speaker 1:I may have punched the wrong guy. Yeah and it was like Okay, and I was like, oh, that was no, but but it was like, oh, that was wrong, that's gonna cause, that's gonna cause me some grief. Yeah you know. But, that being said, I I continue with the story.
Speaker 3:I wanted to know whether he felt that yeah, he felt shame.
Speaker 3:He felt shame, he felt shame. You got kicked out. And then then there was a hearing. Clarence Campbell held a hearing in Montreal, and Dick Irvin, senior as coach, and Kenny Reardon, who was Basically the assistant GM of the Habs of the Time, former player of Montreal. They attended the hearing. The rocket got suspended for the final three games of the regular season and the entirety of the playoffs. It was most significant suspension, next to Billy Couture's, which was for life in 1927 and this is in 1955. So you know it's, it's, it's the 35, 37 years later or 27 years later, most significant suspension since Couture was pretty significant right in NHL history. That was on the 15th. So he had the incident on March 13th. Yeah, the suspension on March 15th.
Speaker 3:Yeah looming large is as it is with us right now, say I say yeah and Detroit, the arch rivals who are chasing Montreal for first place in this. A big thing. In those days. He had home ice and vanished through the playoffs. Right finished first and rocket was trick. It was chase was in, heading towards the Art Ross Trophy, which he never won right, he was one point behind right, he ended up being one point.
Speaker 3:That's what. Yeah got passed by his own teammate, boom, boom, yeah. In fact, I think he got passed by bellow as well. I think he may have finished third. They boomer, I think, at 75 and bellow 74, and I think the rocket 73, and and anyways, he missed three games. I mean he would have won, you know he, there's no doubt he would have won the Art Ross. He never won it. I mean, the Art Ross didn't start till 48, but he didn't even lead the league in scoring prior to 48, when it wasn't the Art Ross Trophy. So it doesn't matter. He never led the league in scoring and it was an opportunity to do so and and and he didn't have that happen. And then, most importantly of all, though, art Ross would be secondary to the fact that the Canadians went to the finals Against Detroit and lost in seven games without, without rocket Richard, who led the league in goals that year. Despite missing three games, he scored 38 goals, and he led the league in goals. He was a goal scoring leader in the NHL that year. So, but of course, that night, rocket the story, and this was so incredible to read. It's his words. It's him talking yeah and and and he's talking to Stan going.
Speaker 3:I got some calls that morning and I knew that. I knew there was gonna be trouble. I knew it was gonna be trouble at the Rink. I got some calls and people were telling me they were gonna get Campbell and I said I told his wife, lucille, we better go, we better go to the rink. You know I better go support the guys or better be there. So they went way down to the rink and he was down there and and and.
Speaker 3:By the way, in this point now he's he is stated and I totally agree with him should never have been suspended for the whole playoffs. Absolutely Ridiculous, if you know the whole body work. Because he said that miltschmidt, laco, those guys at the hearing that they flat out lied. Rocket said they flat out lied, he is 1,000% adamant that he did not start that fracas. And they went and said that rocket 1,000% started. Of course, no video, right, right, there's no video. So you got it's a. He said she said right, and Campbell sides with the Bruins because, well, where's the carnage? The carnage is you hit an official. There's no denying that. He knows he was wrong. You don't. He doesn't write about breaking sticks over guys, but he did, yeah, so you got a suspended. But that's a pretty hefty frigate suspension, even suspended for the first round yeah why the whole?
Speaker 3:playoffs. But I mean that's a whole other story about what was going on at the time. French English Clarence Campbell, rocket Richard. They had already locked horns earlier. Publicly in the early 50s Rocket used to go straight a column in French. He got told to stop it. The whole thing is very fascinating if you're into that historical side of it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, are you into that historical side? I just very just very superficially. Sorry, I just had to take that opportunity.
Speaker 3:I don't blame you, man. I mean I'd be wondering to like what's your yeah, this guy really care, yeah, I.
Speaker 3:Mean, doesn't seem like you really cares no so that night, of course, everybody has seen the pictures, the still footage of the man in the black leather jacket Going up to shape Clarence Campbell's hand and, just like this, and at the last second boom, this halls off and drills them, and that's one of everything what the DEF CON for. Well, so the smoke bombs and the stink bombs and everything, and the smoke. There's so many pictures you buy. You can go online and see them. There's smoke hovering over the ice in the crowd. Police are taking Campbell out. He was with his secretary, who he was later. It was his girlfriend. He they were keeping on the down low anyway married her, which is all good, and and. But he brings her in that and and, of course, like rocket rights there. But Campbell showed up late all the time, fashionably late. I'm the president of the NHL, I'm gonna come in. I just suspended rocket and I'm right here in your rink and what are you gonna do about it? Well, clarence.
Speaker 1:I'll go for you. You know he's very lucky you didn't get hurt worse. If it was, you know what? If it was in the United States, he would have been shot, probably. It's, by the way, how I want it. When I want to, I say I want to shake hands with Trudeau, you know but but you know so.
Speaker 3:So it's an amazing moment in time. The game was forfeited right. Detroit won the game 4-1. They were leading 4-1. So they got the win, they got the W, they went on to win first place, which was their seventh in a row at that time and their last for a long time. And and there was obviously the building emptied and the riot occurred right, they went up and down St Catherine Street, destroying it, flipping cars, tons of arrests and damage such as it was by and now they do that just as a tradition in the playoffs.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you what it's really lose?
Speaker 3:no, in 2021. Rory and I, my son and I went to game game 3 in Montreal and the police presence. I'll tell you, folks, if there had been, I don't know, there was no way they were winning the cup. And they, of course, they didn't win the cup. They lost that game. They won game 4, pushed it to 5 and and then, as we know, tampa beat them. But in Montreal, for those games, and had they been fortunate enough to go on and and and and push the series or or go on and even win the cup the police presence and what they were not gonna let 1993 happen again? No, absolutely no way, or God forbid, what happened in Vancouver, which was ten times worse than what you all yeah, but Vancouver.
Speaker 1:The difference is is that Vancouver was a lot of not hockey people. Yeah, they were just people wanting to fucking rubber I think there was some of that in Montreal too.
Speaker 3:Let's be honest yeah it wasn't people coming out that on a Saturday night were cheering the Habs and then say let's go cause Ten grand worth of destruction, just myself personally. No, right, because you were drunk, it was it was it was. It was an element that were fans either. That caused most of the Damage and most of the stuff, as it was in Vancouver, but the scope of it was significantly worse. I think in Vancouver that it wasn't much wrong. It was bad.
Speaker 1:No, it was the Vancouver one was. Keep mine, it was give me and that's all drug fuel. They got a few years later to talk in 1993, 2011.
Speaker 3:Big difference, but still Point is in 55. Who else like they never? Detroit fans never would have rioted for Gordy, how Boston fans never would have rioted for Bobby, or I am going to defend the people the people of Boston in this is they wouldn't.
Speaker 1:They wouldn't have called it a riot, they would have called it an ass-kicking. Okay, the people of East Boston would have fought anybody.
Speaker 3:No, but they wouldn't have gone out and done that, they would not.
Speaker 1:No, they wouldn't that not have been the reaction motion over a suspension.
Speaker 3:You would have seen what you saw in Toronto when Lanny McDonald got traded and there was 50 fans down there with placards walking around.
Speaker 2:You know right, Also I'm.
Speaker 3:Harold Ballard, that's all you would have seen in Boston or Detroit or anybody else. It was the passion of the rock you saying it was habs.
Speaker 1:You think was the French.
Speaker 3:Canadians, the way they lived, the way they are, and the and the you know, my dad was simple, he was a full moon. May have been. It was St Patrick's Day to like think of it. Thinking the synergy of the day, which is why it's so perfect, fits for this week in hockey.
Speaker 3:We may never get one that fits better than this than the 13th, 15th and 17th and 1955 with Rocket Richard, and there's no way and it would have done, been done for anybody else in history other than him, because there was political Ramifications as well. There's there's a talk, an entire Discussion you can get into about what was going on.
Speaker 1:You think duplicea was behind all of this.
Speaker 3:I don't think it was complicit, no, but in any way, shape or form. But it wasn't. It wasn't too long after. Viva the quebecois. I mean, you know that, the entire, the entire genre and feeling in Quebec that the rocket stirred, and he said Repeatedly in his day and many times after I was just a hockey player, I was just a hockey player. He never wanted to be the front of any type of French Revolution, as the French Canadians tried to Garner more of a foothold in their own province, if you will, which was cemented by Leveque and 76, as we all know. But in 55 that was cemented by rocket Richard.
Speaker 3:Yeah and it was cemented by that. That series of events in March of 1955, culminating in the rocket where he had to go on radio and TV. Didn't have to, but he offered to and they accepted, went on radio and TV the next day, asked everybody to calm down and quit, quit any violence, quit any damage. And he said I'll be back to help the boys win the Stanley Cup the next year and for the next five years Montreal won the Stanley Cup. So there you go. That's the end of it. Rocket, richard, the riot, what led up to it, the incident the 13th, the suspension. Whether you agree or disagree, if you delve into history and make a comment on it, got any comments on it, reach out to me. I'd love to hear from anybody that wants to discuss it further.
Speaker 1:That's that has been this week in hockey history. All right, hey, and welcome back. We are now gonna jump again right into another segment of our think is Liam hasn't spoken enough Over the last week or so, or anything like that. Even you know he gets very passionate about the whole Montreal Canadian thing.
Speaker 3:It's not not passionate about anything in hockey. Look, I spent. I went to vancly kill yesterday. You did because a 90 year old man wanted to meet me. There you go a guy who was the Harness racer of the year and blue bonnet, what's his name. His name is in 1981. He was a harness. His name was in 1981. 1981 was the year which he wanted. His name is Garnet Stevens.
Speaker 1:Okay, I was big into hard. I used to go to the trial, used to be big and I got a Harder introduce you to my buddy, peter Oliver, because he's a.
Speaker 3:He's a.
Speaker 1:I met him. Yeah, you've met all yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah well, he's a standard bread fanatic, like, oh really, I didn't know that I met this guy yesterday who Vancly kill, born and raised, and we, we, actually we picked him up, my buddy Jeff and his friend Dave. I drove to emerald, got in with them, we drove the vancly kill. We picked up Garnet he's 90, looks 70, drank like he's 50 and and I mean we're into the pints in the fireball in like 10 minutes. And we go to this to their buddy Wayne's place, who Played for the Hamilton Tiger cats in the 1980s, a good friend of theirs, on Aberdeen Road, south Vancly kill, like Could not have been more rural and beautiful old firemouse and the five of us are in there sitting around a kitchen table Having back the pints, talking sports from back in the day.
Speaker 3:Oh, it was so much fun. And this guy's 90. And you want to meet me. I don't you kidding me, I'm thrilled to meet you, man. And and so a lot of stuff came up, not the question we're about to talk about, because this just happened I got sent that question just a couple days ago because Connor Brown right scored his first goal of the year but the conversations I was having with these guys, especially Garni, because the stuff, imagine what he's seen. Yeah, because he's an avid sports fan and and as I was telling him he's he, this guy was a hell of a hell of a driver.
Speaker 2:Hey, the hell of a driver like sulky rider.
Speaker 3:sulky rider, that's formally how you say it. Wow driver. Yeah, no, it's a driver, but it's driving the sulky is, I want to say I think he said he had the most success with a horse, I think I think he said it was called max sticks.
Speaker 2:Okay, look it up.
Speaker 3:But he's got a trophy and you know he was almost sheep is showing us to us 1981 blue bonnet driver of the year. Like that's pretty freaking good man. Yeah, it's pretty good. Like a way pulls and those guys were racing at the time Like I mean all of anybody who would be a who's into it. I'm not like my buddy Ollie would know all those guys, but I guess sounds like you do some of them too. Anyways, what a, what a, what a, just a fabulous experience it was. And a couple days ago Chris Connor Brown scored.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so let's leave this to the question. Yeah, so the question is a couple of days ago, connor Brown scored, yeah. This is his first goal of the season? Yeah, now, have there any? Has there been any player? Okay, yeah, who has played the whole season? Yeah, and not scored a goal right other than Brad Marsh?
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, that's the thing.
Speaker 3:Were you gonna say Brad Marsh, I wasn't like the way that the the description on the question as it was phrased to me. The person who asked me wasn't trying to stump me, they didn't know and they said Liam has her. And they phrase it just like you did and I said oh yeah, there's been tons, but what you want to ask is the way you want to ask it is has there ever been a forward Forward? Yeah, to go a full season without scoring? And there has it's Unfreaking, believable, like Minimum 70 game season, and this is only 1213 years ago. Who's that? Craig Adams, really Craig Adams, who's a two-time Stanley Cup winner? Yeah, went 82 games and didn't score in 2010. It's unbelievable. Carolina, that's crazy, it is crazy. It is crazy. 2009, I guess now.
Speaker 3:Now let's just say though it was only nine defensive Specialists yeah for sure, right, and remember, everyone here in Ottawa's gonna say, hey, what about Bill McCault? Because remember he was taking his sticks and put them in the toilet.
Speaker 3:You know he was trying to find you trying to tell me you know then flushing it, flush the watch, the garbage off of it, so I can score. He went 70 games here in Ottawa. I never scored 70 games. Bill McCault I believe it was 70 didn't score. He was doing all those things. It was a big story at the time and Craig Adams surpassed that. There's been many, many, many, many defensemen that have played season. Not scored quite a few, but Craig Adams was a right winger.
Speaker 3:And he didn't score over. He did believe he had ten assists that season. But he, two-time cup winner, very effective hockey player, just goes to speak like you see, connor Brown. By the way, if anybody saw the highlight, how do you not? If you, if you can't, if that can't get you some passion watching the sport he scores in Ableton. It was a seventh goal of the game, right, he didn't even score. It bounced off him, right. Nice pass by Evander Cain front of that boom office shouldn't pattern. And he gets his first goal the year after 55 games. 55 games gets a standing ovation. Crowd goes nuts. Everybody knows like they're just, they were aware. Everybody knows no one had been, really, nobody really had been shitting on him. You know largely the point you made at the start of the show. Edmonton's been playing pretty good, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it's any, any deficiencies or people who are really behind haven't really been singled out or whatever when they had a few Speed bumps. Maybe they go back on the goal tender or they criticize the defense again, but Connor and Leon have been on fire again, so it's all good. And Hyman, as you touched on, but Brown, who's a former scoring champion in the OHL, chris.
Speaker 3:That's right you know like the guy could put the puck in the net, but he hadn't scored in two calendar years. Last time he got a goal, he was playing for the Ottawa senator.
Speaker 1:That's right. No, that's the last. Yes.
Speaker 3:That's the last time you scored. Shut up, we're not scored really.
Speaker 1:No no, he's Dave Brown's kid, right? No, he's not. No, Well who?
Speaker 3:stays brown. A brown doesn't have a son.
Speaker 1:He doesn't have a kid. Does he have a daughter playing? I don't know.
Speaker 3:Dave may have children playing a girlfriend.
Speaker 1:I don't know. No I thought he did so who's Connor? Connor Brown was not related to.
Speaker 3:His dad was not in the NHL. He has any hockey browns.
Speaker 1:Okay, for some reason I thought that he was Dave Brown's kid, but okay, all right, never mind that. I was gonna say something. Well, you know what? All good, that, that is good. That was. That was our episode of, not an episode, our segment. Yeah, you got it. You got it. I got a dude of ask Liam, we'll be back. Okay, welcome back. This is our. This is the end of the. We're closing out the show. This is our, our, our St Patty's Day special, yeah, day. I run a close-up to show with a little ditty, not about Jack and Diane, no, but a little ditty, a little Irish ditty. But because we're Canadian, we're gonna do the Canadian type of thing.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right.
Speaker 1:Yep, all right, so you're gonna come with me.
Speaker 3:No no. I don't know the words, you don't know All right.
Speaker 1:Oh, and I that Patty Murphy died as a knight I'll never forget. Some of the boys got a load of drunken, ain't got sober yet. As long as the bottle was passed around, every man was feeling gay. Oh, larry, brought the bagpipes some music for to play. That's how they showed their respect for Patty Murphy. That's how they showed their honor and their pride. They said it was a sitter shame in a wink that one another and every drink in the place was full the night Pat Murphy died. Oh, mrs Murphy sat in the corner pouring out her grief. And I'm gonna end it there, hey, that's awesome Chris.
Speaker 3:That's fantastic buddy. I love it. I love it. Little traditional I don't think there's many podcasts are gonna or webcast are gonna be ended. Shows that way.
Speaker 1:You know what? Let's see? Spit and chick. Let's do that. Yeah, let's fuckers, okay, um, all right, so listen to everybody out there. Maybe you know I will do this, okay, yeah, maybe the roses that. May the road rise up to meet you, yeah, and may the may you be a half an hour in heaven. That's what I have a devil knows your dad before they never doubt that. Jesus Christ, I'm slurring my words.
Speaker 3:Learn your words and yes, I only had a little bit of the blood thinners and you have a shot of rum, you've had a pint and and this tastes like another yes, anyways, thanks for watching.
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