Offside with Hawes and Maguire
Offside: with Hawes and Maguire is not your typical hockey show. This weekly
45-60 minute show is a potent combination of humour and genuine hockey insights that pushes the envelope.
- Liam is renowned for his photographic memory, lively storytelling, vast hockey knowledge and sometimes over-the-top passion for the game of hockey.
- Chris is known for his unrehearsed humour, contagious laughter and uncanny ability to make even the most serious debates end in boisterous guffaws.
Between the two, there is an infectious enthusiasm and professional chemistry that is evident from the outset. It can only be described as lightning in a bottle.
Offside with Hawes and Maguire
First Date Advice, March Madness gambling rumours, Oilers playing Rope-a-dope. Casual comments on the NDP.
Roll up your sleeves and get ready to explore the sometimes gritty, always passionate world of hockey and life's curveballs with us. We'll start with some Banter that is definitely OFFSIDE. We connect the dots between holidays, Elvis Presley, and love—a cocktail of topics as eclectic as our tastes. Ever wondered how to set the scene for romance without the cliché of a fancy dinner? We've got some first date strategies that'll have you chuckling and nodding in agreement. And for those of us with a few gray hairs, we share the dating insights that only come with time—humorously lamenting the wisdom that's arrived a tad too late.
From the living room to the locker room, we lace up and hit the ice with an in-depth analysis of the Edmonton Oilers' season, capturing the emotion behind every puck drop. Our hearts race as we dissect player milestones and team struggles, and we even snag an exclusive chat with Matt Carkner, whose stories from both sides of the bench add depth to our hockey discourse. As we zoom out from the rink, we tackle a gamut of life's slapshots—from navigating the healthcare system to the thrills of Liam's future Alaskan escapades, and from community spirit in small-town sports to the highs and lows of professional and recreational league championships. This is where personal anecdotes meet the collective roar of sports fandom.
Wrapping up our session, we pivot to other arenas of interest, from Louis Pizzeria reviews to candid rants against overpriced goods. We're not afraid to get nostalgic with tales from the hardwood, reflecting on the tough guys and the strategic minds that turn to coaching after their skates are hung up. We even share the rollercoaster of emotions that accompany NHL playoffs and the heartfelt involvement in community initiatives. So, come for the laughter and stay for the stories—you'll leave with a greater appreciation for the ties that bind the rink, the heart, and the human spirit.
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Speaker 3:you didn't. There's no mess. I've got nothing. You know it's fantastic. You know what you didn't. There's no mess on the floor.
Speaker 1:I've got nothing. You know that's fantastic. You know what? Finally, he's fucking house trained.
Speaker 3:Wow, it took a while, 64 years. Hey L'chaim Up the Republic.
Speaker 1:Same thing. Yeah, that's uh, relatively speaking, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's uh, ah, it's uh. Oh, that's good. Yes, okay, so this is uh. This will be like our easter thing. That's why I'm wearing the uh, the solar, the solar bears logo I'm going all easter right, yeah like the like the peter rabbit, yeah, and the cottontail, peter peter cottontail, yeah, rabbit, okay. Peter peter cottontail. He wears a lot of pink, does he? I figured that's what I was gonna. I was gonna be well, you wear it well. Well, you know what I do actually myself you're confident in your masculinity.
Speaker 1:Elvis Presley wore pink very well did he? I never saw it once oh no, he was known for pink known for pink yeah, he was known in the 50's. He was known for wearing pink. It was so bold, don't recall one outfit ever that's true, you gotta do a little more research.
Speaker 3:You know that's true, I'm not a. Uh, I've been delved deep.
Speaker 1:Ask an old guy ask how many in their 80s? Yep, okay, they'll tell you absolutely, I was working. Yeah, all right. Okay, pink lamé, he had the pink jacket yeah black pants with the pink pinky tuxedo and he used to give away pink Cadillacs pink Cadillacs, yeah well, so so there you go, say hello so all that being said, that's why this is our Easter show, okay, okay, and Liam thinks he's the second coming, so that's how we're tying it all in that's good, all right okay, good so.
Speaker 3:so I feel like that right now, the last few months, but Well, you know what I mean, I'll tell you man. I'm only one man, ladies, Like you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's it. They're all disappointed. True it is. It's a sad.
Speaker 3:It's a colossal wave, it's a.
Speaker 1:The problem is you're not setting the proper expectations.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can't go low enough.
Speaker 1:You've got to start with listen. This is not going to be.
Speaker 3:This is going to be terrible it's got to be.
Speaker 1:this was not as bad as I had expected.
Speaker 3:That's what you need.
Speaker 4:Right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:That's why you never take a woman out to a fancy restaurant on your first date.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's the biggest mistake you can, I know.
Speaker 4:okay, you take them do, you know, you do yeah, you take them.
Speaker 1:I've heard this, but I totally agree with it. You take them, like, to do things that you want to do. Yeah, right, so you take them off-roading, if you're like, if you're an off-roading guy, you take them hunting, yeah, or if you know what I mean, you take them places where they're like totally out of their element, and then you know what I mean, and then you find out what they're really made of. Interesting Like why waste your time with? This oh, we're going to take it to a nice meal Like yeah, you know what?
Speaker 3:Where was that book 45 years ago? Was it out there?
Speaker 1:No, I just wrote it, did you?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's the best seller. I have such great experience with women.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly 40 years.
Speaker 1:One man, one woman, One woman exactly. You know what. I'll tell you what, but you know what?
Speaker 3:Good for you by demeaning. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1:To be able to please a woman for 40 years.
Speaker 3:It's impressive. Okay, who do you think's doing it?
Speaker 1:I can tell you, you know, there are times when I'm not impressing, I'm going to not lie, but you know, but I am the little engine that could. There you go. You know what I mean. I have that sort of confidence in myself.
Speaker 3:You know that's. All you got to do is get up in the morning and and chug, chug, chug. Yeah, free willy and away you go, Exactly.
Speaker 1:Okay, so let's talk about this past week. We're talking about what was going on in hockey. Now I have to say, and the first thing, I'm going to bring up is just this past Saturday night was the Toronto Edmonton Edmonton game. Yeah, right, yeah, and I fucking hate Toronto as we know, yeah, okay, and I was so wanting Hyman to score the 50. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, in Toronto.
Speaker 1:Rather than against Ottawa Rather than against Ottawa, yeah, okay. So I was hoping that he would do it, because it would be a great. You know what I mean. Yeah. Fuck you to the Leafs. Yeah. Okay, and then the Leafs come out and just fucking dominate.
Speaker 3:One of their best first period of the year? Yeah, probably.
Speaker 1:And then you have Matthews, who fucking showed why he's one of the best.
Speaker 3:He polished up his earrings, there's no doubt about it. He was glistening, yeah, looked outstanding.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So, what did you think about edmonton's play?
Speaker 3:well it's. It's not just their play in that game. They played the canadians, montreal canadians, the lowly montreal canadians in the game before that and were hard-pressed, very fortunate, to win that in overtime. Yeah, thanks to a four minuteminute. Just I mean technically, I guess, like Armia's stick got caught in a wedge play between bodies and came up. They gave them four minutes. It was no intent, but the cut blood got to call it, I guess. And so Edmonton's got a power play in overtime with that lineup and they score. Barely get by. The Habs Didn't even deserve that. They get waxed by Toronto. Then they come in. You think they're madder than the Hornets which they look like in that first period against Ottawa. It's probably their most dominant period, but they can't pull away, they can't get. You know they get ahead and Ottawa just keeps coming back, which has kind of been an MO of the pesky Sens. If you go back four or five years right.
Speaker 3:I know there's not really been the example of that?
Speaker 1:Was anybody chanting Peugeot, peugeot, peugeot.
Speaker 3:Peugeot. I didn't hear any Gabriel Peugeot chants through the screen last night but I mean, oh, you weren't at the game. No, I wasn't at the game, but I watched it.
Speaker 1:I thought you were going to the game.
Speaker 3:No, I've been to a few Sens games. No, it was somebody else, okay.
Speaker 1:So when we were, when we, when we bumped into each other, yeah, okay, yeah, and I was taught. And there was somebody else that was there. There was like Andy was there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then somebody else came up.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to say who it was, but he was telling me he was going to be okay.
Speaker 3:That's where that came up, but for some reason I thought you and Andy were going to the game. Oh no, no, I had um, I know I didn't have any plans. I watched hockey all day yesterday. Yeah, all day.
Speaker 1:So you watched the afternoon game.
Speaker 3:The first game was at 1230. Yeah, so I watched literally 12 hours of hockey and loved every second of it. It was great.
Speaker 1:Was that Philadelphia yesterday the afternoon?
Speaker 3:game they played. Yeah, that's not the one you watched. I watched them all, I watched parts of every game.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you do that yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, they had the nice overlap going. There was only one period of time where there wasn't a hockey actually on for about 21, 22 minutes. As you just reload, the cooler and you're good to go. But it was just a ton of great games because of the playoff implications. But back to Edmonton. Chris, I don't know what the hell's going on, Unless we're being snowed here, rope-a-doped here. I don't know what the hell's going on. They have looked I mean, they looked good against Ottawa, but they couldn't pull away. They looked terrible against Toronto.
Speaker 1:They looked terrible against Montreal, so they looked terrible against Toronto until the third. They came back and scored three goals. I mean, really, at the end of the day, they won that third period. Yeah, I don't know. So I don't know what the you know what's. You know what the issue Are they burnt out?
Speaker 3:I mean the goaltending hasn't been as good as it was during the stretches that they had. The first stretch that got them back into a playoff spot, right, and then the last one that sort of hung around 500 and then got better than that for a bunch of games, and it has them solidly in. I mean they're playing la in the first round, barring anything really unforeseen, so it it. You know, la could possibly slide out the back door with 10, 11, everyone's got 10, 11, 12 games to go. It's possible, but it looks like it's going to be in Edmonton, la again and and uh, uh, we'll see. We'll see what happens, you know. But I mean right now, chris, I, I just you know what I watch. I watch all the games and I just look at them. That's why I wanted to talk about it. Get your thoughts on it too. I just they're man, they just look like there's something missing. So, like you just said, is it the rope-a-dope? Yeah, are they just like they're? Just they're, they're home and cooled. And is everybody picking up a lesson from Boston going balls to the wall last year, only to crash and and sort of just saying, hey, we got our position, we don't care who or when we play we're in the playoffs, I don't know. I mean I watch it and right now I just go because I've wanted to.
Speaker 3:I think it's because I want Connor McDavid to have a long run, I want him to at least make a final, and they're at the point right with him and Dreisaitl, like they got a year, a couple years left on these deals and and uh, you know, I mean who knows what's going to happen. I mean, if they got a team to get there, I'll tell you. You sure haven't seen it in these last three games, even though they did, territorially and possession wise, played well against ottawa, but when it came time to defend and make the saves when they needed, like it was a specialty team game anyway. I mean, both teams are scoring power play goals at will, including the Sens, and a big one to take the lead. And then I think it was Parker got the empty netter, I forget, but regardless, you know empty netter sealed it. And there you go 5-3, game over. I mean they just have looked so lackluster here at a time when you should be ramping up the other way. Well, you would think.
Speaker 1:Mc way.
Speaker 3:Well, I think you would think McDavid's going great guns. I mean it was Dreisaitl Dreisaitl. Well, that's that goal he scored against Ottawa yesterday and of course he, he uh got the OT winner, I believe, against the Habs. I mean, same thing, you know it's. It's a spot there. He's like the other side from Ovi, like Ovi's been unstoppable for a billion years on this side, with Dreisaitl on this side. He's unstoppable. So I mean it's just like that shot, uh, against Ottawa yesterday. I know they were, they were like I said, I watched on TV, I'm sure you did too and and I mean he's right down at the goal line. He almost had a skate. I mean he's at the bottom of the circle where he shot it from right.
Speaker 1:But yeah, but he was.
Speaker 3:It was on his off wing, so it was better you know, I understand the angle and that's why they're set up where they are. I mean, it's Stamkos, it's the guys Brad Hall, haas, haas, yeah, haas, yeah.
Speaker 1:This is Haas and McGuire by the way, oh yeah, we did, we not did? I don't think so.
Speaker 3:All right, I got See them. That West is so freaking competitive, like if the playoffs started.
Speaker 1:Today, vegas is playing Vancouver first round. Yeah, like Vancouver, and that should be the Stanley Cup final. At the end of the day, that's what should be in the Stanley Cup final.
Speaker 3:Yeah well, we can't, we can't, you can't make that happen, but that's what should be. It's a conference.
Speaker 1:Vancouver has got the team.
Speaker 3:It'd be a great semi-final as would Edmonton and Colorado that people were talking about as little as three weeks ago no, I know, you know that.
Speaker 3:But I mean, yeah, it'd be nice if you could get the two best teams and they went back that whole one versus 16 right which we had when the WHA teams came over, and that rolled until they went back to divisional and conferences. But yeah, but I mean, at the end of the day, you know we don't have it. So you take whatever you get, you know the first round is going to be just insane. I mean, I think it seems to be getting incrementally better every year because the competition has just leveled out so much. And you know, no one expected Vegas to win the Cup last year, no one expected Colorado to win it two years ago and I don't think anybody expected Tampa to repeat, no one really knew during the COVID years what you were going to get.
Speaker 3:Then you go back to Washington. Would OB finally get it done? You got Sid back to back. Now you're back to Chicago's run, la's run, the Bruins in 2011. You know, really there was none of those teams at the start of those seasons that you were going. Yeah, you know what? Oh, yeah, for sure I can see them winning the cup, like the Habs or the Islanders it comes down to any given Saturday night that a team can win.
Speaker 1:Because there is a lot of parity in the league at the upper echelon it's like there's two tiers right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there really is. You know what I mean there really is.
Speaker 1:It's like there is two tiers, yeah, especially in the west. Now, no, let me ask you about that, okay, and you, you come up, uh, you mentioned something that I think was, uh, you know, the the one one to 16 versus the divisional yeah playoff uh brackets yeah, okay you think we're doing it wrong right now?
Speaker 1:do you think the one to 16 is the better way? Because, I mean, at the end of the day, the day and they change it because, oh well, our division's harder than this division and that's kind of why they decided to go with the divisional side, or that was their argument. But let's face it.
Speaker 3:Their argument was to drive rivalries. That's why, back in the day, before we got up to 32 teams, you know Montreal and Boston would play eight times in a regular season, right, and now they play four. So it's things, things. Things have changed, uh, and not for the better in that sense. I mean everybody and their brother would have paid.
Speaker 3:You imagine that Ottawa and Toronto played again after what happened put Ridley into the empty net of the Morgan Riley, basic assassination there, and just the temperature in that game had they had another one at all this season at any time would have been amazing, tell you, the first game next year is going to be amazing still because of that. It'll be a hangover effect, no question, would it be? I wouldn't mind it. I mean, just balance the schedule 32 teams, have everybody. You just unbalance the schedule. 32 teams, have everybody. You still can have your Prince of Wales and Clarence Campbell trophy winners. You do your West and the East and everybody can still get their trophy there and do whatever. You still have to get points and win your division, win your standings, whatever you do. But I mean, if you just slotted everybody one versus 16, I think it would be outstanding. I just as a fan and I haven't done it. It would be an interesting thing to do. Just take pen and paper and see who would be playing who.
Speaker 1:See who would be playing who?
Speaker 3:Yeah and just do a fun thing and just say, okay, just go points and run it up and see who ends up in the final. Right now, before you try to speculate as to who might have a better chance.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's your homework. That's your homework for this week. I love that. Would you take that home?
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, would you work on that and bring it?
Speaker 1:And then we'll. It'll be a good discussion for the next, for next week. Yeah. Okay, we'll do it. Okay, all right, now we move on.
Speaker 3:I'm like, you know black and white and asian. I mean. I mean hockey pool this time of year oh yeah, hockey pool.
Speaker 1:What's going on now? What's the latest? Okay, so today, as of today, right now, okay, uh, chuck is in the lead again okay he's back in the lead. Yesterday he wasn't okay. Yesterday it was um dave zibby, like zipkiewvic or whatever, and I apologize, dave, pronouncing your name is hard because it's like an Eastern European thing and you guys all sound weird.
Speaker 3:Zikovic, yeah Zikovic.
Speaker 1:I think that's what it is, something like that, anyhow it is like that, it's something like that, it's like Polish or Ukrainian or something like that. So he was leading or something like that. Yeah, you know so, so and so he was leading, okay, and and so right now there's like four that are within, uh, close up now, unfortunately. Rory is in fourth. Yeah, yeah, okay, but still in there, like within within 15 points wow but within 10 points are the top three right it's crazy and it's been shuffling around and it's been tight, so I woke up.
Speaker 1:This morning.
Speaker 3:This is after a whole season. It's hard to believe. Oh, it's crazy. Huge thanks to Hosey and Brown for sponsoring that. That's right, somebody's going to Ireland for free.
Speaker 1:Someone's going to Ireland. Well, not for free. They're going to Ireland on Hoseie and brown.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what they're doing like that's what made this happen so yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, they're going for free, but hosie and brown are paid.
Speaker 1:Yeah, brown are paying the freight, yeah, so I mean just so everybody understands, like that, how important uh the sponsor is right. Yeah, because we don't get that prize, no, without that that's right okay, yeah and and to be fair, just so everybody understands how much like what it's worth yeah right, okay, the the just the trip, not including the airfare.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's 5800 bucks, right, plus the airfare which rains, but you know it's a, let's just say, 1500 bucks yeah that's the value of the of the trip, trip, yeah, and so you know, I mean you know you, just like you gotta you understand how it, like, this is a great product.
Speaker 3:Get your auto parts from Hosey and Brown Automotive.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I you know and and you know what I need to get auto parts. I need a lot of auto parts, do you? I know I need, I need, you know I need them to deliver to my house. If I only knew one of the sales guys.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know I do, we can make that happen. Yeah, I'm sure I can call up a fella, I know.
Speaker 3:I can even run it over. I'm over there. I see, rod, I would go over there, I could. I could pick anything up and drop it off here and come in and take a couple shots out of your liquor cabinet well, we could.
Speaker 1:You know that's a possibility. You know what I need, okay, so, and unfortunately, like so I always because I have my, my old reveal, I've got all the, I got a bunch of parts, so I've got backup parts for everything and I pick them where I can get them, uh, and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:But I need to get some parts repaired, refurbished, right, right, because you can't get certain parts. Yeah, yeah, right, so I got to get the refurbished. So I I gotta, I will have to find out and talk to them about you know who, they know who could rebuild this little motor and this little thing on that stuff. They'll know, I gotta, I gotta keep these things, these cars running absolutely, because I sure as shit can't afford one of those electric fucking vehicles. Okay, and.
Speaker 1:I can't afford a new car. It's with everything, like you know. I mean like with all the carbon taxes and everything.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:What's going on? Like I just I'm ready to march.
Speaker 3:All right, that'll be rescinded in 2025. It's right around the corner 2025.
Speaker 1:It's going to be rescinded in about six weeks. No, six weeks, no. Oh yeah, absolutely. There's going to be a fucking guy on a clock tower, just you know deciding. That's it. We're fucking done. Okay, that's the one thing. You know what? Say what you will about the United States, they wouldn't take this kind of fucking horse shit. The fucking NDP are cocksuckers, and true they, and true they suck Trudeau's dick politically. They've decimated anything that the NDP fucking stood for, and I'm from Sudbury. I believe in trade unions, I believe in what they were able to do. What the NDP has done is given everything away and they're taxing the people who can afford it the least, the fucking people, the citizens. Do you think that the fucking millionaires give a fuck about a carbon tax? Yeah, fuck, whatever. Okay.
Speaker 1:No, they're taxing us fucking little guys. Okay, and the NDP is making it happen. Okay, and you know what you know? Honest to God, it's fucking deplorable that Canadians are sitting back. Well, what are you going to do?
Speaker 3:That's Canadian, though. That's why we're going to have to wait until 2025, unfortunately by the next election but there'll be nothing before Nothing's going to happen.
Speaker 1:Sadly, sadly, you know what Nothing's going to happen. We're talking about a tax revolution, man.
Speaker 3:I say not just the tax reduction. You know, and I know that nothing's going to happen. Where's the tea? We're throwing it in the harbor, yeah.
Speaker 1:We're throwing some tea in the harbor. God damn, I am so. Anyways, listen, if I can't even. It just gets me worked up, it just gives me a fucking stroke, okay. Again.
Speaker 1:Again, you know it's just unbelievable. And and of course you know it'd be different if we had the actual best healthcare system in the world. Yeah, we don't, we don't have. It's a fucking joke. It's a fucking joke, and if anybody thinks we have the best medical system in the world, I challenge you to go into the hospital and see what it's actually fucking like.
Speaker 3:Okay, Well, there's no doubt there's some serious issues there, no question. I mean, eight to ten hours to wait is uh well, and here's the thing it's not the nurse's fault no, of course it's not the doctor's fault, no, it's not even like in people in administration.
Speaker 1:So it's the fucking waste of government and the fact that they have not done anything. They don't want to do anything. That's how little these motherfuckers care about us as citizens and taxpayers. It's just let's just get more fucking taxes from them. Let's get more fucking taxes from them. Let's destroy the economy. You have some natural resources. Ah, fuck it. Don't use them. Let's wait until everyone's broke. And then saudi arabia will come in and buy up all our oil fields and fucking use it all like oh my god, you know what we need. We need a big fucking dave schultz motherfucker. Yeah, to come in and beat the shit out of our parliamentarians. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Again, bitch slap yeah fucking minister things that will never happen for 40 bucks, alex anyhow, okay, moving on from, uh, from all that this hockey talk, yeah, okay, um, what else are we going to talk about? We're going to talk about.
Speaker 3:We talked about the the thing well, yeah, I think edmonton's in trouble and, uh, I'm going to watch these next. Uh, um, what have they got left? They've got 12 games to go. I think no 14, maybe there's.
Speaker 1:I was looking at the scoring is that all 14 games like that like? Yeah it just seems like it's almost. I mean yeah, it's three. I think the oilers have played left in the season.
Speaker 3:Yeah that's it. Yeah, you play about four games a week on average, so so, yeah, it's. Uh. Well, we're turning april 1st there next week and and over.
Speaker 1:The season ends April 19,.
Speaker 3:April 19. There you go, man, it's right around the corner. Absolutely incredible. I'll be just getting back from Alaska and I'll be just leaving for Ireland. You'll be leaving for Ireland. Yeah yeah, We'll have to get creative here. We may have a week or two without a show, but uh, well, we'll figure something out.
Speaker 1:We will figure something out, and uh it's. It is unfortunate that, uh, that you're going to be going to to, to alaska yeah, okay, you know what I mean well, you know you know how much you hate seeing new places yeah yeah, well, they will not I will tell you right now saint pierre and me can all may have it, but I'm going to tell you that that juno alaska does not have x, you never know.
Speaker 3:You never know. They may heard leo mcguire's coming and you never know. I don't know how the hell saint pierre and michael had molson x, but I was one happy camper yeah let me tell you the
Speaker 1:thing is. What about whitehorse?
Speaker 3:we're going there too well, whitehorse will have it okay.
Speaker 1:I've been to white. You know what you should try while you're there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, get someone to pop you up to dawson city you know, it's just a question of I said my time's, not my own. That's the problem. Yeah, you know, we're uh, we're at the mercy of the schedule and it's a it's as you can imagine, that we're doing all this in a week. It's a hectic, yeah, it's a hectic goal because we've got anchorage and then we've got. We've got uh yellow anchor down and anchor right down, man, anchor right down like we're gonna be.
Speaker 1:Johnny horton did a song about alaska. Hey, you know that song.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well north to alaska yes, I know, I'm gonna actually play it on. Um, yeah, I'm gonna post it, post it. I should say, uh, to tee it up, because I haven't really. This is really the first time I've said publicly that I'm going to Alaska. I haven't posted anything about it yet or anything. So, april 12th, you know, but yeah, I'm super excited, as I was for the other trips, right, you know. So this is obviously a little bit different. I mean the scope of the travel alone, but you know, I mean just like going to, you know, mean just like going to, you know, fogo island off the northwest coast of newfoundland, or say pierre and michelon, which is owned by france. So like places I would never go in a million years. I would never. I've never gone to alaska. I would never go to alaska. No, no, no, no. When, when you're gonna go, in the winter I'm watching hockey, in the summer I'm golfing, like my, I don't have, I don't have that you know they have television there too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they also have beautiful wilderness.
Speaker 3:You get to see things.
Speaker 1:You know and.
Speaker 3:I'm just saying this is the environment that's best suited for me, you know, because a basement with a pint well this, this, this is extremely suited for me. But this trip is extremely suited for me. A I'm not paying thank you and uh. B I mean I'm getting paid. Even better, what a me? A I'm not paying Thank you and B I mean I'm getting paid Even better.
Speaker 1:What a combo. Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 3:C I'm talking hockey. D, I'm going to be drinking every day Four, partying with 10 of the greatest guys, former NHLers, and we're just going to rip it up. And then, yeah, we're going to see here. So yeah, but unfortunately getting to other locales like dawson city now I think I'd love to be there with the dawson city nuggets, having traveled in 1905 right to play the ottawa silver seven well, they know, but didn't the dawson city nuggets come to ottawa? Uh, in yeah, they did a few years. Yeah, a few years ago.
Speaker 1:Well, it's quite a few now I mean it wasn't the same, but I remember I have a puck from it when they came.
Speaker 3:Well, it's the 100th anniversary. It came in 2005. Okay, so 2005.
Speaker 1:That's when they came to play an exhibition game Against the Sens alumni.
Speaker 3:Okay, I remember that and Marci in the dressing room said hey, boys, they came a long way and it's great to have them here and we've hosted them now and it's been a great party. Now we've got to go play hockey. Let's do exactly what the Silver 7 did to them in 1905. We're going to crush them, which they did, and I remember Earl McRae was still alive writing about it. But yeah, that was pretty cool. I attended and worked some of those events with them coming in and these guys were so thrilled to reenact that I mean they tried as best they could, right, I mean they came by train, plane and automobile all the way they had the throwback equipment.
Speaker 3:The throwback equipment. Yeah, not quite, not quite, but there were some neat things and yeah, I mean I'd love to. I would have loved to have been able to get up to Dawson City, but it does not appear as if that's in the works. I haven't actually been sent the full itinerary yet. Oh, okay, day to day, but I know from the previous two tours the schedule's pretty tight. We were able to sightsee on, uh, on newfoundland a little bit, but that's because we were we were in an enclosed like. We were able to go just a few miles that way or a few miles that right. Yeah. So dawson city, I think. Well, listen.
Speaker 1:When you're in whitehorse, you go a few miles this way. If you know that way, you're either eaten by a bear, yeah yeah or you're, or you're, or you're struggling with a salmon. Yeah Well, wait till you get a load of me, An Arctic char right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm going to bring it? No, it sounds like?
Speaker 1:listen. It's a great opportunity to go and see another part of Canada and the United States. Yeah, which is. You know what? It's beautiful. You know what? There's a poem by Robert Service, yeah, Called the Spe spell of the Yukon.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, I've heard of it. I can't remember how it goes, but yeah well, it goes.
Speaker 1:Like this it goes. They wanted the gold. I wanted the gold and I sought it. I scrambled and I mucked like a slave. Was it famine or scurvy, I fought it. I hurled my youth into a grave.
Speaker 4:It's all about this guy going there.
Speaker 1:Okay, and you know he went there because he was going after a fortune, right, but it was the hold and the beauty of the place that pulled him back, okay, and so he came out with a fortune last fall, but somehow the gold isn't what he wanted, right, Right. And so you know, and it's calling, Yukon is calling him back because you start out as a sourdough, you finish your first winter and everything like that, and then people say you never want to leave because it's the greatest place. And I got to tell you I've never spent a full winter. I visited in the winter, yeah, but I got to tell you it is a spectacular.
Speaker 3:They're telling us well, they're telling these NHL guys that one of the games they're playing and it's all scheduled, sold and everything is outdoors. So they're still in the middle of pretty hardcore winter up there, I guess. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:They'll have snow, I mean, they get nice weather as it comes in here and there. But, certainly until the end of April.
Speaker 3:I'm sure that it'll be so mid-April. Yeah, April 12, 13, 14. Like anticipate, Anyways that's on the schedule is an outdoor game.
Speaker 1:We could have an outdoor game here. I mean, you know how they have an outdoor rink with the pipes underneath.
Speaker 3:Well, no, I understand that, yeah, but this yeah, could be okay, okay, yeah, I didn't consider not artificial, I mean I artificially cooled, but yeah, it's real life, yeah, yeah well, we, we interviewed steve shott and he did that business, uh, for I mean, when he got out of hockey, that's the business he ran yeah, yeah, that's right for that company in toronto, right, yeah, yeah, yeah so you should. When are we going to run our next interview?
Speaker 1:oh, we're going to do it today okay good you're coming, good we have an interview coming up today and I thought that we should do something special. Yeah, okay, and I was going to go, okay. And then the next person on our interview list was this guy and this guy, okay, yeah, but I decided to skip over Steve Schutt for today, okay, okay, and I've decided to skip over Larry. Yeah, okay, for today only. Yeah, okay. We'll do him next Larry Sure, sure, or whatever.
Speaker 3:Whenever? Yeah, okay, but so today Are you going right?
Speaker 1:to Matty. I'm going to Matt Karpner, matt Karpner.
Speaker 3:And you know why, Because I saw a post that you put on facebook right and you saw the name wendy karkner. I saw wendy karkner, which was his sister which is his sister-in-law okay, so I saw when oh no, excuse me not, uh, wendy was married to the late rob karkner. Oh okay, so which is because it's a cousin? A cousin, yeah, okay yeah, yeah, uh, okay.
Speaker 1:So, that being said, I saw the name. I said you know what we really should, because, and that's also, if he's the, he's the GM and coach of the solar, exactly, okay. So now.
Speaker 3:I'm picking up what you're laying down exactly yeah, it's not just Peter Cottontail okay yeah, it's Matt Karkner cotton well, well, well, well, well, we're going on about, okay so yeah, we're going to do this, though.
Speaker 1:So well, you know, let's talk about Matt Karpner.
Speaker 3:Sure.
Speaker 1:Just briefly. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:You can give me some stats and stuff.
Speaker 3:Well, there's only really one that's important.
Speaker 1:What's the one stat that?
Speaker 3:you feel is important. He played the greatest 39-second shift in Ottawa Centre history. Okay, and you'll hear him talk about it on the interview.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I don't understand. I don't know what you're referring to. Yeah, I know soccer.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, all right, I know you know and everybody else does too, but when he didn't play game one against the Rangers and played game two, he knew exactly what he was going on the ice for. You'll hear him folks talk about this. I mean, we put it on a T-form. All he had to do was just detail it and he did. Yeah, and it was great because we were sitting just in the bowels of the dressing room area there. Yeah, it was so cool.
Speaker 3:We had such a great time with him and he talked about basically saying to Boyle we're going, and Boyle trying to say no, and he's fucking right, we're going, and just speed bagged him and he got suspended for it. But that series went seven games, largely because I think Matt Carpenter and Chris Neal played the way they did. Ottawa had such a tough team in that confines of a few years there they just they were right there, man. They had so many of the right ingredients a number of different times in the history of this team, not the least of which was during the Jacques Martin era, during the Brian Murray era.
Speaker 1:you know a little bit later some of those other coaches, but that was the coach at that time. Was that Corey Clouston?
Speaker 3:I believe so.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're Clouston, yeah I think it was Corey at that time, or it could have been Trying to remember exactly who it was now Jesus Christ, it wasn't Paul McLean, it wasn't Paul McLean. I don't believe, so I know that Klusen was a coach during that time frame but I don't know who was coaching that at that time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think it was Corey, but I have to double check. To be honest, I should know that and I think you're right. I think that's who it was, but uh, but anyway, matt Carter was drafted by the Habs and and uh you know, ninth overall yeah did he?
Speaker 1:did you know that? Yeah, yeah, pretty good, eh, yeah, that is good fucking memory to it, that is good yeah holy cow yeah, wow, that is the first time you've ever pulled a stat out.
Speaker 3:That's amazing.
Speaker 1:That's it, yeah, and uh, listen, what are you talking about? I have pulled out stats. I've been wrong, but I've pulled out stats all the time. You should see me when I'm elsewhere. People go oh, how many goals did? Oh, wayne Gretzky had 687 goals in one year. Seriously, in bantam hockey, 687. Really, oh, you look it up and you know they don't know where to look it up. So then I win. So your ability to horse shit is only controlled by Google, that's it.
Speaker 3:That's pretty good.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's pretty good. Yeah, he did have. It was his peewee season when he scored all those goals. That's incredible. Okay, I thought hey whatever, yeah, anyway, you're close enough, but uh, yeah.
Speaker 1:You know in the in the rankings this is so. Birth year 1960.
Speaker 3:Yeah, uh, wayne Wayne's 61. 61, I'm sorry, yeah 1961.
Speaker 1:So Jim Fox also 1961. Yeah, okay, yeah, so also 1961. When the rankings came out for Bantam players yeah, okay, so this is going to be their year to go into the junior draft, right, right, jim Fox was ranked higher than Wayne Gretzky. Than Wayne, yeahky, because they thought Wayne was too light.
Speaker 3:That held true for two more years. Even he was drafted into the O Wayne was taken third, yeah so you know, I mean this is now getting very close to him. Hey, I mean he all. Everywhere he went he exploded the numbers. But everywhere he went, everybody said he's too small and he's going to get crushed, he's going to get eaten alive. That followed him all the way up, yeah, all the way up, right into pro yeah, and.
Speaker 1:But you know, as it turns out, we all agree probably the greatest hockey player to ever play the game to date.
Speaker 3:He's the greatest offensive force in the history of the game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, but I say it that way with the caveat that Bobby Orr will always be.
Speaker 3:But I think Orr is the greatest overall player.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but nobody will will match the that's in a prime on prime. No one will yeah. Yeah, no one will match Look.
Speaker 3:Ovi. Uh, you know, and Ovi's all of a sudden found the fountain of youth here again and it looks like now he's going to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's just drug test him and see what fucking happens.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:He was using a few years ago.
Speaker 3:I don't know. Was he? Well, that was the rumor.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, you don't remember when all those guys were like there was the whole steroid issue.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was one of the guys. Well, the caps were, you know, implemented Some of their guys there, yeah, so he was one of the guys that was on that list.
Speaker 1:Now, of course, I'm just spreading rumors.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, well, this is the right show to spread them.
Speaker 1:Well, this absolutely, and this is exactly how the internet works.
Speaker 3:Just so you know okay I don't know if ovi ever used or not, but uh, I mean, I don't know what that could give him the ability to shoot his face, uh, use steroids, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah he's 38, looks 58, but uh, now he's scoring like he's 28 again.
Speaker 3:So eight goals last five games and the caps look dead and gone from the playoffs. They're now in a wild card spot with a game in hand, points up on Detroit, and the Islanders and Tampa, who I thought also were going to fade into oblivion, have just charged right up and are on the verge of really solidifying their spot. I don't know if they're going to do anything in the first round or not, because somebody's getting either Boston or Florida and the other one's getting the Rangers. But I mean, those teams are beatable man. That's the thing, that's the parody.
Speaker 1:I don't know Any given Sunday, Monday, Saturday, whatever night it is Any given day.
Speaker 3:I know it's going to be every night. In the first round of the playoffs you got eight games and it's just fantastic. It's the best two weeks in sports. First round of the NHL playoffs.
Speaker 1:You're not into the whole basketball March, fucking madness.
Speaker 3:I mean I'll throw an eyeball on it here and there, but no, I've never invested any interest or passion in it. I will watch some of it, as you know, if I'm just catching it at night, but it's not destination viewing for me. Yeah, no, not like yesterday. Yesterday, when I saw the NHL schedule, I went oh baby, oh people go on about basketball. Buckle up the chin strap, load up the pints.
Speaker 1:I'm sitting on this couch all day, right here. Well, people, that's what people do with this march madness I know, I know they love this thing, they love it. They're going on about the whole thing oh, basketball is the greatest sport. Listen, strap on some fucking blades there, kareem, okay, yeah, and and dribble that that a much smaller fucking ball, okay, with a stick, okay. And then you tell me that basketball is a great game, okay.
Speaker 3:Well, you're not going to say it's not a great game, it's a good game. I mean, it's all sports are good in their relative. Chris, you can't hammer a sport because I can hammer a sport.
Speaker 1:Well, you can, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can hammer. I'm definitely not going to hammer basketball, basketball. I think it's a fine sport. I just don't have any interest in it absolutely, but it's not anyways.
Speaker 1:But it's not hockey, but it's. You know how much money is gambled on basketball there's march madness.
Speaker 3:It's crazy not as much as the nfl, I'm sure, but I mean oh I don't know.
Speaker 1:I think it's probably more, because those kids can be bought um, so just saying, you know, it's just another rumor, right? That's just it. That's how the internet works. You're un-fucking-believable so you are unbelievable so, listen, I want to tell you about this.
Speaker 3:This reminds me okay, those kids can be bought. Okay, that's the line of the show.
Speaker 1:I don't even know why we're going to keep going okay so uh, so here, so uh, my brother calls me up yesterday yeah yeah or not. No, he calls me saturday. He goes hey, what are you doing sunday? You want to come over, okay, fine, so, and and so my brother's staying at a house that my sister owns, which was my grandmother's house okay okay, yeah, so we grew up going to visit my grand in vanier. Yeah, okay, literally a a stone's throw, and and I have thrown stones, yeah.
Speaker 3:So you know, you know, it's within a stone's throw.
Speaker 1:All right, so uh to to Louie's restaurant, you know, louie's pizzeria on MacArthur Avenue.
Speaker 3:Uh, that's fucking great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know right now and this is for no money or anything like that, they're not a sponsor. I haven't been to louis in about probably 20 years, okay, okay. Uh, now I may have gone once, but I haven't been in 20 years, okay, so it has not changed. It's the same ownership, yeah, okay, and it's the same like moving down, okay. So, uh, we go in there. First of all, they've got staff who are fucking professional. I mean, these ladies are boom boom, boom, boom, boom. You need this and it's like you want to go and see how a business should be run. Fucking.
Speaker 1:Go to Louie's on MacArthur Avenue. Then we order. And so, from the time I was a kid, my pizza there was the Louis Special. So we ordered a Louis Special and blah, blah, blah. We'd get that. It was great. And then we had pie. They got pie, they got pie, and I know pie is an old guy thing, but fuck you, I love pie. I'll drive out of my way for a good pie, great pie. So I'm just going to tell you what we had yesterday. Okay, probably the best service that I have had in, I don't know, probably fucking 10 years. Okay, the only only better service I had was at osars in Vegas. Okay, okay, all right, which is where I ended up, where Grace ended up having her wedding. We rented a whole restaurant, oscars, by the way, downtown Fremont, right? It's awesome. Okay, it's named after Oscar Goldman, oscar.
Speaker 3:Goldman from the $6 million van yeah, no, not yes Six million dollar bag.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, not.
Speaker 3:Yes, oscar Bonavina, yes, the heavyweight fighter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no.
Speaker 3:Oscar.
Speaker 1:Lindsay, you drove our bus. He was the mob lawyer in Vegas. And he later became the mayor of Las Vegas. Oh, okay. Okay, so he actually plays himself in the movie Casino oh.
Speaker 3:Casino, oh Casino.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, like this guy's legit, this guy's a legit mob lawyer. Okay, okay, yeah. And of course he's in his 80s now. Yeah, okay. But he was the mayor and his wife became the mayor of Las Vegas. Oh wow, and they actually rebuilt downtown, because a lot of people don't know this, but the Strip is actually not in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3:Right, okay, it's in.
Speaker 1:Paradise, like it's a different area, okay, but anyways, this is an awesome restaurant, okay, it's again. I have to go every time I go to Vegas, yeah, and so much so that we actually knew everybody for Grace's wedding, yeah, and we had it there and you know what, never had a, like everybody thought it was awesome, sure, but Louie's, other than that, the best service I have had. You know what the fucking bill was.
Speaker 3:For the two of you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you had pizza and pie Pizza, pie and pop.
Speaker 3:So I'll say well, it's got to be 50 all day for fun.
Speaker 1:Probably Not even got to be 50 all day for fun no no, probably Not even had to be no, 39 bucks 39 bucks, so no one had any alcohol. No alcohol. Okay, there you go. No alcohol, but still you can't get a fucking pizza in Manatee for delivery for $39 anymore. Yeah, you can't Not what I order. I always get it Just last week or a anymore. Yeah, you can Not what I order. Just last week or a couple weeks ago I had it. It was $38.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but what else did you get?
Speaker 1:No, nothing else, that was it. Just pizza, just a large stuff 30 piece no. No, but that's what they charge. It's the butcher's thumb and it's all this. There's a lot of inflation, I get that.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, there's a lot of greed out.
Speaker 1:There too, I was telling you, so you would have got a large or a super large.
Speaker 3:What did you get? I don't know? Do you remember? Not that it matters, what was that You're saying? You got a pizza. You got delivery costs. Yeah price you're telling me was 38 or 39 for a large pizza when delivered from from manatee, from the. Yeah, yeah, and I you know you're not exactly right around the corner, but I take either, no, no, but it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:The point is is that you know what louis was such a great deal and you go in there and it's full of regulars. The place is full, full. You don't have to wait to get a little booth and the same booths from when I was a kid. Well, that's pretty cool. It's so awesome.
Speaker 4:That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I was so impressed by the service, the professionalism, the quality of the food. You know, one of my pet peeves right, I've told you this before when you go to a restaurant and say, yeah, my pet peeves right, I've told you this before when you go to a restaurant, say, yeah, can I have a coke? And they go pepsi, okay. And it's like, no, it's not fucking okay, it's not okay to settle in your world for fucking pepsi. So so I get that. So they got a pepsi machine there and it's like, oh fuck, okay, they're not gonna have pepsi, they're not gonna have coke, uh. And so my brother goes well, can I get a? Like you know, he asked you, he asked me, he wanted a Diet Pepsi or something. And she goes okay, do you want Diet Pepsi or Diet Coke? And I, you know my ears perk up right, yeah.
Speaker 1:And she goes, we got both. And I'm like, really, he goes, I'll take a Diet Pepsi and it's you know, because he's got more French Canadian blood in him than I do. Right, okay, so he gets his. And I said so, can I get a regular Coke? She goes absolutely. Imagine a fucking place that gives you a choice of what you want. If you like Pepsi, have a Pepsi, if you like Coke, have a Coke. Don't have to fucking settle for Pepsi. Okay, it's fucking ridiculous. Okay so. Louie's wins on all fronts.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm telling you.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you. I'm telling you, I literally I texted Chris. I got to go and check it out. I said to Chris and I said we're going back again. I got to go but, like, honestly, first of all, like you know, I'm not going to go all the time every day. No, you know what I mean, but we're going to go more often. Okay, we're going to go there because it was such a great experience. The food was great and the pie, the pie was fucking amazing. It was great pie. And that's what I said to Chris. I told her all, and they have both Coke and Pepsi and blah, blah, blah and she goes. And then I wrote, and then another, like you know, as you're going down the text, I go.
Speaker 3:And they have pie and she knows, she knows her man.
Speaker 1:Oh baby. So anyhow, Louie's, Pizzeria.
Speaker 3:That's one night. Last night I have to cook, that's what she's thinking On MacArthur Road.
Speaker 1:everybody's got to be there.
Speaker 3:There you go.
Speaker 1:Okay, got to go there. So support a great business that is fucking just serving the shit out of you know, killing people with customer service. Love it, I love it Absolutely.
Speaker 3:Okay, great to hear man, yeah, great to hear Love to hear that.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what?
Speaker 3:I don't believe I've ever been, oh, so I'll have to check it out Well there, we can go.
Speaker 1:It's licensed of course, you know what they used to be licensed.
Speaker 3:You know what to an unlicensed place, unfortunately.
Speaker 1:Is that a court order? Yeah, Well.
Speaker 3:But you know what I mean. If it's that good, I mean what's the worst case scenario? I mean I'm sure they've had guys smuggle a pint in before.
Speaker 1:I'm sure they have Listen. So going back, this is the ironic thing. So when my brother left Sudbury, like we grew up going there okay, like literally, because it was at my grandparents' and we'd come visit and that was the store at the end of the street I'd go up there for my grandparents Peter Jackson's that was their cigarette, right. I'd have to go up there and I was fucking like crossing. Now MacArthur Avenue wasn't quite as busy as it was and there was no airport parkway back then, right, there used to be the Mr Transmission, where there's the Loblaws now.
Speaker 1:Yeah Okay, and we used to play in that whole area. Yeah Okay, there was train tracks there and everything Anyways. Yeah. So we used to go up there and I know this is like a oh, hey, listen. I'd go up there and buy a. I was playing in Vanier a few years after that. Yeah Well, there was the Playmate not far. So the Playmate was actually. You know, if you could get along with bikers it was the place to be.
Speaker 3:Well, they came to the Gypsy Rose too. Yeah, they did, and they've been, I mean, going to pig owls on any given day, yeah, If you get along like nobody wants to have a fight with anybody. Like it's a general rule. Well sure, no doubt it's the old story nothing good's gonna happen if it's one or two, am yeah, but if you're just in there catching a couple features and the fabulous buffet.
Speaker 1:The buffet at the clit pit is okay, yeah, so uh, there's another one. Yeah, that's another one, that's it that's a good one, yeah give your balls a tug. That's it. Yeah, okay I'm just going all out there it sure is it's another.
Speaker 3:It's on fire today it's, it's another.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna do another. Shout out to shorzy yeah, because I hadn't seen. Remember, I told you I hadn't seen it, so I watched. I watched shorzy, yeah and uh. Yeah, you know what I can see it it's a good. It watched Shorzy, yeah and uh, yeah, you know what I can see it, it's a good. It's actually pretty good it is I mean you know, I, I got to give it to to uh oh yeah, jared Kiso, yeah.
Speaker 1:Kiso or whatever. Yeah, uh, you know what he's done? A great job, yeah, a great job. And in all the iterations of stuff that he's done, yeah, and it's, I mean, certainly it's a certain genre, for sure, but you know what? Know what? You got to love it. Yeah, you got to love it. And listen, I'm now fucking like my new thing. Tonight I'll be like give your balls a tug, dick fucker. That's my new thing. I'm going to say that to Kristen actually. No, I'm not. I absolutely will not be saying that I will make me ask you know what I mean. Suggest you give them a tug, but no, I'm not oh boy uh, all right, so let's, uh, let's move on.
Speaker 3:We were talking about uh, matt Karpner wow, nobody goes down rabbit holes like us man. No, absolutely, but you know what to be honest with you?
Speaker 1:uh, I think that's what people have come to expect.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I agree. You know what A lot of complaints coming about you, yeah. I believe it. Okay, all right, we're talking about. Matt Karpner Talks too much hockey. Listen, we're talking about Matt Karpner.
Speaker 3:Yeah, don't get sidetracked, all right, okay. Well, we're going to run the Maddie interview on this show. That's fantastic.
Speaker 1:We're going to run it right now.
Speaker 3:Okay, great.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, we're going to run it right now. Well, enjoy, he's a beauty and he's coaching. He's the coach and general manager.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 1:Okay, of the Orlando Solar Bears, which is a team that is also owned by the same owner as the Orlando Magic, right, okay, yeah. And ironically, it could have been an NHL franchise at one point. I don't know if you recall, but Espo wanted to locate Lightning in Orlando, right, right. But the mayor at the time said no, no, no, yeah, okay, but turns out anyways. And going back to our Espo interview, okay.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Talking about, you know, things that have happened in Florida and stuff like that. Yeah, great interview. If you have not watched the Espo interview, watch the Espo interview, because what a great man but it was, you know. What I found really poignant was when he unequivocally said that his greatest accomplishment, yeah, was not 1972 no was not, you know winning the Stanley. Cup, anything like that. It was the creation of the Tampa Bay Lightning, yeah, and, and I thought that that was like yeah, you know what?
Speaker 3:well, I loved his analogy there when he said are you you a parent? Are you a parent? Well, this is like having a child. Yeah, that's my child, exactly.
Speaker 1:And that just really resonated with me when he said it that way and I said to him I said listen, you can neglect a child and if you're a good parent no.
Speaker 3:So, okay, the interviews have been great and Ken Hodgman ran Ken.
Speaker 1:Hodg one ran last week. Yeah, it was great, and you'll note how like laid back and funny and relaxed that the man was. Yeah, right, yeah, uh, it was. It was a great interview as well, like you know what? At the end of the day, when you start going through, uh, the quality and the different personalities of people, right? Yeah like you know, all these guys have different personalities very much so right very much so all good guys in their own right, I guess yeah, I mean from there, and matt cartner was like he was very welcoming, I got you knew him from before I did, yeah, and and I I did not.
Speaker 1:It's my first experience with uh, with him there, but I'll tell you I I was impressed. I thought he was a you know, very you know, as all fucking guys who can kick the shit out of you yeah, okay, yeah they're pretty low-key and relaxed guys.
Speaker 1:Right, it's like, yeah, you know, you know what I mean and he's very and he's got manners, he's got everything like that. But he had hands. His hands were the size of a big mitt a dinner plate. Well, it was like the top of his. Yeah, it's just like you know what I mean Big mitts but he was afraid to go with me. You'll see that.
Speaker 3:You'll see that in the video For obvious reasons. Yeah, you'll see all that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, okay, so that's it. So we're going to intro this. So this is our segment that we call Shooting the Shot with Haas McGuire, brought to you by, brought to us by Gibb Patterson and the Patterson Group of Golf Courses, fantastic, yes, thank you yeah, we really appreciate it. It certainly would not have been possible to go down and interview these guys guys no without the contribution yeah, um, because we had a hell of a trip.
Speaker 3:I mean, we, we did it, you did a ton of driving and, uh, you know, we had to find bars every night to drink in.
Speaker 1:It was exhaustive and that was the hardest part, you know, and we got to tell the story.
Speaker 3:But when we got to the we were in the villages I know, after so much hype, yeah, they left out one key point though that the people, like the driver, didn't know where the fuck he was yeah, so so we go down, we hear about this place, the villages, yeah yeah, okay, and there's women all over and they're all.
Speaker 1:They want to have sex with you all the time yeah, it's this big. It's the number one STD capital of America, and this and that you know. Listen, I know first of all two reasons I'm married and I'm not looking to do anything like that.
Speaker 3:I, on the other hand, was looking, but he was right.
Speaker 1:I mean at the end of the day. I was. You know. So I was, I was, I was excited at, at, at his prospects. So we go, we get there, okay, and uh, where we get set settled, and we go, okay, like we gotta gotta go out and we call up. We call a. They didn't have Uber, right, and we knew we were going to be drinking, so we said we call it oh. Oh, we got a car service, okay, so we saved the guy and and I and they were.
Speaker 1:We were told to go to this place. I don't forget what it was called, but it doesn't really matter. Yeah, this guy took us to a place that had a similar name in the middle of fucking nowhere.
Speaker 3:There were six people in the place, yeah, maybe I don't know yeah there's nobody and it was just the whole thing was from the car service and the delay, yeah, and getting the car, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:We had to wait for, like ever, and then he took us to the wrong place. No, no, this is it. So we get there and then the next day we find out you missed everything.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it's like, oh, this is a major letdown on that, but as it turns out, we would have been in trouble anyway, because they closed early. They closed early. They closed early the.
Speaker 3:Villages is allegedly and I think by all accounts, 100% a very happening spot. I believe all of the advanced intel that came to us and to me from other people is 100% accurate. Right, but we had some infrastructure issues. We did, we did. And then some timing issues, because no one happened to mention that they shut down man earlier than Ottawa in the 70s. Like this is this is an early shutdown and uh, we weren't aware of that as we were pile driving through our food our late supper.
Speaker 3:there I had a big steak and, uh, I was hammering back rum and cokes like just priming the pump, getting ready to drop the clutch yeah, you know then drop the clutch and just give her yeah, and then all of a sudden nothing yeah, that's where I, that's where I broke my um, your uh, my drive january. That's right. That's exactly right. I tried to say to tell you to hold off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, yeah, you were, you were. You know what he's so good he's like. He's like my aa buddy.
Speaker 3:If I ever feel like I need a drink and I just call him and he assures me I should exactly you know, it's uh at the end of the day the end of the day, you know uh, when you get to the end of the day, you never, we never got to uh we didn't experience the full village, uh genre you, we experience the village people. No, we didn't experience the village people. No, we did not. We didn't do that.
Speaker 1:So we'll have to another time. So, but on our next trip down and we are, you know, because this is winding up, we have a couple of more interviews that you covered. Yeah, but we're you know for next season's set of interviews, yeah, okay, and hopefully we can renew our sponsorship, which is our goal, to continue this on so that we can go back down there. What I'm going to do is we're going to schedule things around. We're going to spend two days, or you can spend two days in the villages, so we'll get you there early Perfect.
Speaker 1:Just an extra time. That should be all I need, and we'll get you there. We'll try and get a gig there, you better. Well, remember that sports bar. We could probably get a gig there. Yeah, you'd probably set up a gig of some sort. Yeah, at that sports bar. Yeah, and you know, or one of the golf courses.
Speaker 3:Well, even in the hotel bar there, that beautiful hotel, do you even call it that? It was Taj Mahal where we stayed, where you got us booked in.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no it was just a Hilton thing, wasn't it?
Speaker 3:Wasn't it. Where was the one? No, no that's the one that we went to in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, okay, that's right, yeah, but my point is where we were, where we did end up. Anyway, I heard some guys talking hockey. Like I heard it. I mean, you know there's some, we could find some hockey talk down there. But I mean, more importantly, let's go see where the action's at.
Speaker 1:Yeah for you, and I'll just live vicariously for him because that's you know, it's not the financial contribution that I would have to make by doing something like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not at all worth it Not to mention that I.
Speaker 1:Honestly, why have a hamburger when you've got to live in your own?
Speaker 3:home. No question about that buddy I hear you there.
Speaker 1:So okay, Matt Kertner.
Speaker 3:Matt Kertner. Here we go Finally.
Speaker 1:All right, we're going to enter this. This is Shooting the Shot with Haas McGuire and this is our interview with Matt Kertner. Everybody welcome back. This is our segment. We like to call Shooting the Shot the Shot, and today we're shooting it with Winchester or Chesterfield.
Speaker 4:Winchester, morewood, really Morewood. Oh, okay, talking real small, okay, morewood native.
Speaker 3:Good to know.
Speaker 1:Morewood native, a fellow by the name of Big Country, matt Karpner. Matt, welcome to Offside with Haas and McGuire, by the way, I'm Haas, I'm McGuire which I think you may know.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, long time, yes, well listen.
Speaker 4:I appreciate it. I'm humbled by being on this show. You've had some big names on here, well just us.
Speaker 1:really We've got to get. You know we are intimidating, but you know you've thrown down with a few guys, a few. So let me ask you.
Speaker 1:I'm going to start by asking this question. So you're a defenseman, you were a tough guy, right? You wouldn't classify you as a goon, but you could hold your own. Yeah, Right Now I've noticed this. Why is it there are so many defensemen, slash guys who are, you know, not in force, whatever you want to call it but why so many go into coaching after I notice that there's a lot?
Speaker 4:We're locker room, guys. We love it you know, we love to be around the guys.
Speaker 4:We love the environment, we love to compete for one, and for me, being in the fight with the guys in the locker room and trying to build a good environment, good culture, that's what it's all about For me. I contemplated some other things as I was getting closer to the end, but it just, you know this just kept calling my name. So for us tough guys, I guess that's it. It's just like the passion, the energy that we put into it on the ice and off the ice in the locker room, it just kind of translates into the post-hockey career.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now you're down in Orlando, the land of Mickey Mouse, yeah, okay, and so you're probably at Disney parks all the time. But what's it like to be in a, in a, in a city that?
Speaker 4:it just doesn't feel like hockey. Yeah Well, that's a hundred percent kind of the vibe I got when I first came down. I came down to visit and interviewed and honestly, quite honestly, I didn't know if I wanted to go to UCHL route, but I was looking at AHL assistant jobs and then this job came up and I'm like you know what being in control as a GM and a head coach, like that's a lot and you're gonna learn a lot. I just didn't know what the kind of hockey culture was down here, right, but I got down here and these fans are passionate. Once I got the job and I stepped onto the bench and the energy and enthusiasm from the fans like you could feel it in the arena, it's crazy. We get you know we pack our house most nights. We get you know tomorrow night we're doing Spittin' Chicklets, they're coming out for Pink Whitney.
Speaker 1:We don't save them on us.
Speaker 3:Yeah, sorry, that's all right. No, that's awesome. I've got noises a little bit, we'll promote.
Speaker 1:Spittin'. They will promote spit and chiclets. If they promote us, they will, they will.
Speaker 4:I'll talk to them tomorrow. But anyways what I'm saying is we get good crowds.
Speaker 4:And our fans are passionate. I was a little bit caught off guard about the energy and just the feel we got on the bench. It's a great, great venue the Kia Center used to be the Amway Center so we play out of where the Magic play, so we get all the bells and whistles, right, right, and I think we curtain off the top layer so we get about 10,000 fans. You do, but it's bumping 10,000 fans, oh yeah, yeah. Well, listen, we'll probably average around 70-some hundred but tomorrow night we'll be well over 10,000.
Speaker 3:Yeah, with the promo.
Speaker 4:Yeah absolutely Saturday nights. We really bring in a lot of people, but that's the thing. We're owned by the Magic, so they get most. Saturday nights. Exactly, it's a brand here, so for me it's kind of cool not knowing a ton about it and getting into it and seeing how passionate the fans are. It was pretty cool.
Speaker 1:Now, how long have you been here? I've been here for really a year and a half now. Okay, so second season, second season as a coach.
Speaker 4:I'll be quite honest. It was a learning process, just getting to know the UCHL and the ins and outs of it. I had ideas and I've heard um, but there's a lot, a lot of moving parts it's. You know, I wear many hats. I got to do a lot of damage control. You got to find, you got to recruit a lot of players and it's, it's never just nonstop.
Speaker 4:So, um, yeah, it is really cool to be down here and not have to shovel snow. Yeah, but I don't get to. You know, the off-season is great, but during the season we're full throttle, full speed ahead with me and my coaching staff. Yeah.
Speaker 3:These players know you Like. Do they know of you, Do they? They do. When I get a little fired up, yeah, when I get a little fired up.
Speaker 4:They're like, oh boy, and I hit, fired up. They're like, oh boy, and I hit a brick wall with with this. Yeah, they're like, oh, he's been through a few things. But but uh no, they look me up and they, you know, they talk about it once in a while like, oh, we watched the videos last night. Yeah, yeah, it's like that's how it used to be played. Boys, yeah, you guys are soft, but uh no, they, they know a little bit and they have a lot of respect for you know guys like me. My assistant coach is Ben Holmstrom. He played, I think, a little bit with the Flyers and then most of his career in the AHL, but you know good careers. So these guys here in the East Coast, some of them are trying to make the NHL. So they really respect us as coaches, having gone through it.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean, there's hundreds of grads that have come from the ECHL or, you know, previously known as East Coast Hockey League like literally close to 400 at some point, that have played at least a game at this level, that have gone on in the NHL. So if anybody needs any, you know, especially if there's still aspirations there and they're working hard, which you have to do no matter where you are. Um, that should be encouraging enough to know that it is still a graduation system. You may not go right from here, but you certainly could go to the american hockey league and beyond.
Speaker 4:It's been done countless times uh, yeah, a number of times. And I like, for some of the young prospects that come down or sent down, it's such a disappointment, a disappointment to them, right? They're like, oh, my life's ending. I'm like you know, I had Carter Verhege in Bridgeport and we sent him down. He wasn't ready for the AHL. Then he learned through the ECHL. He dominated the ECHL. He wasn't here. I think he spent half a year, but you know that helped with his development. He's doing a heck of a job. Now There'll be many, many more that go through that same path. It's a good league. It is different because you have those older guys who are looking to settle down. Why not come to Orlando and meet a nice lady?
Speaker 4:They're ready for life after hockey, right, some do that. It's hard to find the ones that have that passion for the game. You do have to filter through. How many veterans, would you say, is the ideal on your roster like, have that passion for the game? And so you do have to kind of filter through.
Speaker 1:So how many veterans like that, would you say make is the ideal on your roster?
Speaker 4:well, we, we have three vets, yeah, um, you know it's 260 games played pro um, so it's hard for some of these. They come out of college, so you know there's not a ton out there, um, but I like to have some, some good leadership on the front end, the back end, and we do have we do have a good bunch of guys that are pulling in the right direction right now. It's hard to find, it's really hard to find, and if you can find good character leaders, they're worth their weight in gold.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what about Matt? I was thinking you talk about the guys maybe who are getting sent down and it could be crushing for them and I think about you right being drafted in 99. You didn getting sent down and it could be crushing for them and I think about you right being drafted 99. Yeah, you didn't get your shot. Till february of 2000 was larry kelly your first agent. Yep, yeah, yeah. So I met you, uh, local heroes, with larry larry introduced the summer. You got drafted by montreal, 58th overall, and I met you that summer. Briefly, you were well winchester guy, more, didn't say more, time, but but uh winchester guy. And and so I knew your partner because I knew Terry and I knew Rob. God rest his soul.
Speaker 3:Yes, right, and so I follow your career. Well, you're in the American Hockey League. Then you know, year after year after year, like you could speak to that, to these guys. Because then you finally get called up Like yeah, I only do one game in San Jose, but you go to Ottawa. Because then you finally get called up Like yeah, I only do one game in San Jose, but you go to Ottawa and we know we're going to get there talking about that, but I mean, geez, you can speak to that?
Speaker 4:Yeah, no 100%. Some of it is just timing. Right, it's your timing. My second year pro in Cleveland, like I was, my coach said hey, just keep doing what you're doing. You're going to get called up any second. Then I blew my knee out. They traded a few guys and it was bad timing, but stuck with it. It's a development league. The HL is a development league. The ECHL is a good development league too. It's just a stepping stone to each league For me. It took me eight years to really settle in and become a full-time NHLer. But it takes time, especially for defensemen. I get a lot of good young defensemen here and you can see they just want to be there. They want to be an NHL right away. I'm like guys you're going to hate me after the end of the year, but you're going to like me and you're going to understand where I'm coming from, because it's a process.
Speaker 3:You got an assist in your very first game in San Jose. I don't know if you remember that or not.
Speaker 4:It was a point of game for a while. Your point of game, man, your point of game? Yeah, I remember that it was the highest points per game and Milan McCullough got the goal.
Speaker 3:I remember that and reading it at one point. But Ottawa is really you know where, chris, and I would have got to really know you from. I mean, I knew of you and, as I said, I met you with Larry there briefly, but your time in Ottawa, can you speak to what it was like to come? I mean, let's be honest, that's your home city for all intent and purposes. Yeah, you're from the rules, but I mean that's your home area and now you're playing there. You had to have family there every night, obviously, I'm assuming every home game and especially the nature of how you played and yourself and Chris Neal we're talking about some of the other guys who lent themselves to that. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say you were right there with the Bruins that's the toughest team in the entire league in the time that you were there specifically and just if you could tell us some of your experiences as you became an Ottawa Senator, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4:You know, just trying out that year, a lot of people wouldn't really follow, but I tried out as a fort. You know it was cory cluston as a coach. Um, he thought the best opportunity for me was to be a fort, um, and uh, I remember I was playing well as a fort. You know I fought a little bit, um all that kind of stuff. I think alex henry was one guy, yeah, um, sean thornton was actually gracious enough to you know, he was already established and like, hey, thornton, give me one. He's like, because it's you Karks, I will you know we had a good fight.
Speaker 4:And that goes a long way and that's how kind of the culture was back then, you know you tried to help your fellow. Like we were Peterborough Peets. You know that was our alumni, so he knew me through there.
Speaker 1:I love how you you know as a good friend you'll punch someone in the face.
Speaker 4:We'll get to that later.
Speaker 2:Once we get to know each other. You're sitting there now, buddy. That's the hockey culture. No, but I know it is you know how many people don't understand that.
Speaker 3:You know they don't understand that. They don't understand sometimes and the game isn't even what it was like when you were in right really going maddie. It isn't like right now, but it's still there you talked about before we started the interview.
Speaker 4:It's still part of the game it totally is. It totally is 100 and it's a part of the game that I don't think will ever go away. If you know, if you lose it it's, it's just going to change the whole yeah feel of the game, absolutely, um. But for for me, like getting those experiences as a forward. I was you, I felt blessed to be in training camp with Ottawa. My father-in-law before I made the team unfortunately passed away. He was the biggest Sens fan ever.
Speaker 4:So going through those games, and then one game in particular, drew Bannister was playing on D. He's the head coach in St Louis right now, but he had a tough game. He had a real tough game. So Corey knew I could play D. He's like Kars, fuck, you're playing D. And I went back and the rest is history. I made the team as a defenseman. So you know that's another point I have you got to take your opportunities as they come, as young players Like you may not be in your ideal position, but you've got to find a way to contribute in any way you can. So that was, for me, was unreal. When I made the team I got to call my mom and tell her Mom, I'm sticking around this year my wife was already moved down in Binghamton with my kids.
Speaker 3:No way Ready for the minors.
Speaker 4:She had the kids in school. I left her. It was like a haunted old house and, yeah, we got like the hairs on the ends of our necks standing on end the night before I left Ottawa and it was just a creepy old place. I left her in and I made the team. So she was like, oh well, that's great, the kids are in school. I'm stuck down here in Binghamton and you're up in Ottawa, that's great. And is your wife from Ottawa originally? Yeah, we're from the same. Oh okay, We've been together 20 years. We haven't killed each other yet.
Speaker 1:Hey, it's good Small victories.
Speaker 3:Oh, thank you.
Speaker 1:That's one of the greatest things, and here's the thing I'll bet she can take it.
Speaker 4:Oh, she's tough. She fell in love with her. She was doing a self-defense course in front of the entire school and the guy had all the big protection on. She ripped it all off and beat the crap out of the guy in front of the entire school. It was awesome. So that's how we do it. It was great, but, yeah, no, so. So, getting to you know, tell my mom you know recently passed away too. Like those, those years of having family coming into the rank were unbelievable, yeah, and it does it.
Speaker 4:You know hometown guys, they get a little extra energy just having that support and uh, you know I was passionate about playing for the sense like it would. Yeah, I would go through a brick wall for those guys. Yeah and uh and my teammates. Like you talked about chris neal, like I had all the respect in the world for him, like in junior I played against him a lot like he just was a worker, he just worked and that's what he did his whole career.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he found a way and he tough as nails yeah, oh, my gosh, very, very much, so very tough speaking. We've got to just backtrack for a sec because you said junior, because I just think of you and I think of brett cloutier, oh yeah, oh my god, peterborough and kingston, I mean any, everyone was like circling the calendar when you guys were going to play next, because I mean, and I know you've got to know him, yeah, yeah, no, brett was funny because I'd be driving in uh to the games from Peterborough and our Rick Alain, he was our coach.
Speaker 4:He'd turn on the the radio because he, brett Cloutier, would be doing interviews like oh, karkner, I'm gonna take him tonight. You guys come to the, come to the ring. Tonight you're gonna see me take down Karkner again and and he has a blast. And I'm a pretty reserved, quiet guy, so I don't say much about that. I just take care of business. That's what I did almost every time with Brett, but good man, he was a good man for sure.
Speaker 1:All the three actrics right. You've got to have the razzle-dazzle, get the asses in the seats.
Speaker 3:Sure man Slap shots.
Speaker 4:He was a character. We went to a couple of those combines together, I think with Montreal. Actually we were there together. Okay, and he was a character, yeah. Oh, he was a character. Yeah. Just had to try to keep him out of the bar, yeah.
Speaker 3:Tough chore there. Tough chore there, but he is a beauty. Yeah, absolutely, he's an absolute beauty. He's an absolute beauty. Well, look, we've got to talk about it. It's my big thing with you is that 39-second shift in 2012, game 2 against the Rangers. But most people here who would be watching us would be familiar with this. But the way it was, matt, as I understand it, you can jump in. You did not dress Game 1. And Brian Boyle did a speed bag on Eric Carlson like he did. If you're at the game, you saw it, it was apparent. And you dressed game two, did you in your mind? Was your mind set? Oh yeah, that, that, that.
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah, yeah, no, whenever I saw that happen, live, you know, we were fuming in the dressing room. It was me and Zen and Knopka we were watching. We were like, live, you know, we're fuming in the dress room, it was me and and zen and kanopka we're watching. We're like, oh my gosh, this can't happen. And uh, the next game, you know. Uh, we knew we had to, you know, fight back into the series. Yeah, and paul, I think paul grabbed me and trying, I think me and z talked and paul had to sit down with me and and z and he's like, listen, this can't happen. I'm like, I'll take care of it. That's all I said to Paul. And Z looked at me. He's like, okay, you got it. I'm like, yeah, I got it, don't worry about it.
Speaker 4:And my plan was just to challenge Boyle, right, yeah, and just make sure that he knew he's not going to push anyone around. Yeah, and when you get it like I'm the same way, when I come in between periods as a coach, I'll come in with a game plan, what I'm going to do. But then when something happens in the room and I see someone with you know not the right demeanor or something, my emotions get going and I get fired up. So, off the face-off, I went to Boa. I'm like, I'm coming after you, like, be ready, protect yourself. Yeah, ready, protect yourself. Yeah, you know. And I gave him a shot off the face off and, and, uh, and then I went back to my position. Yeah, what happened? I forget? I think he hit zach smith. Yeah, uh, and I did?
Speaker 4:I came in and I just down in the corner, yeah, and I down in the corner.
Speaker 3:But he, he tried, he tried to back away, like he tried not to take the fight like, come on, buddy, I know, and that's the thing.
Speaker 4:I gave him fair warning. I'm like you're six foot, 6'7" I know come on 260 pounds. Yeah, just hold on at least.
Speaker 4:So I was infuriated, so I just did what I did. Yeah, it was a melee and all that other stuff and I wanted to inflict some damage. I'm not going to lie to you, I really did. But my teammates jumped in. It was a big pile, yeah. And then at the aftermath, when I got the five minute major, I was like, oh boy, like I hope the boys will rally around me and oh boy, did they ever?
Speaker 3:they did?
Speaker 4:a hell of a job they did you know, like fish and kneeler and alfie, all those guys like they, they, they got the job done killed off the penalty and well, you know, we won the game. Yeah and uh, the best thing ever was. You know, I was a little bit nervous about what paul would have thought of that, because he never told me anything what to do. I just did it, yeah, and he just came and he said that was absolutely outstanding and gave me the fist pump and I was, I was uh, I was thrilled, because all you want to do is help your team, yeah, and sometimes, if that would have went the other way which, yeah, I don't think it would have you know, usually when always a is a risk, but you've got to take the chance.
Speaker 4:So I thought it was the right thing to do at the right time, and the rest is history.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, it's 39 seconds, is what?
Speaker 1:it took.
Speaker 3:And you got kicked out of the game. Got a one-game suspension Two. I got two games. Wait, did you get a two-game match. I got a two-game, Okay. Wait, did you get a two-game match? I got a two-game, okay yeah.
Speaker 4:I got two games. My debate was exactly that Like he could have protected himself Absolutely and he could have grabbed himself. But it was two games and what people don't know is I could barely walk up and down the ramp of the MSG at that point. So two games. My knee was mangled, oh yeah, and I was fighting through that.
Speaker 1:So 39 seconds was great. Yes, my work here is done. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, we got you know, and I mean that's all well and good, we got the pugilistic side mostly out of the way. But I mean you also jump in the Ottawa Centre, the record books are, of all things, scoring a goal, triple overtime. Yeah, could you just explain that one to me. The game's going on. I don't know what type of ice time you were getting there in OT, I can't really recall, but can you tell us?
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, that game was, you know, like geez. We were well matched up against that team. I think we, looking back at it, that's the biggest regret not getting past the first round.
Speaker 4:Because I think if we got past the first round in any one of those series, who knows what happens right, and it was a hard-fought series that game. We were down. We're trying to fight back in the series and we get to overtime. And for me, what you probably don't know is I had more chances than I had probably all year to score goals in those three overtimes. I was up on the rush, I was joining the rush, I was just playing more offensive than anyone would ever expect, yeah, and I couldn't score. I'm like, oh my gosh, if I'm not going to score today, like it's never going to happen, yeah, so just happened to be you know, triple OT. Guys are in like getting IVs, trying to hydrate, getting. Ivs trying to hydrate it was just terrible.
Speaker 4:I think Eric Carlson played 45, 46 minutes that game. I was probably around 30 that game. For me it was crazy. On a regular night, I think during that year I was probably playing 20 would be my max, but we were just exhausted. Everyone was exhausted, so we hopped over the boards and I looked at.
Speaker 3:I think it was.
Speaker 4:Sutton. I don't know if we can keep going here. Luckily enough, I was on the recipient end of a pass from Alfie and I just closed my eyes and shot Matt cooking the ass and went in the net.
Speaker 4:I was happy, very happy it took me a while to register until everyone came to me and started cheering. Listen, that's what I tell guys. You never know when your moment's going to come, and for me it was a great moment. For me I was. You know, I always look at, we should have won that series. It bugs me when people talk about the series because, yeah, I scored a triple OT. Yeah. You know well, that's great, Exactly.
Speaker 4:But we didn't win the cup. You know, like let's win the cup. But no, I'm forever grateful for that opportunity, and it doesn't happen a lot right.
Speaker 3:So I'm going to enjoy it. Yeah well, there's not very many scored in Triple O-T ever, let alone from the Ottawa Senators' perspective. So you jump in the books in a couple of different ways there, man, that's really fantastic. You know you go to the Islanders and nobody wanted to see you go here. You know that was when I say here, we're not in Orlando right now, but you know what I mean, yeah.
Speaker 3:And we didn't. Nobody wanted to see you go. So many people were upset. But before we, I'm going to go back, circle back to the Condors. Yeah, but before that, you know, tell us about the transition to the Island.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, listen, that was a bittersweet one because you know Brian Murray God rest his soul like he was open and honest with me and he only wanted to do a year deal and you know I was in the AHL for years and years and years.
Speaker 4:And this is the only time I was a free agent and I really just wanted a two-year deal. I wasn't looking for a ton of money, just really just wanted a two-year deal. Um, not, I wasn't looking for a ton of money, just wanted the two-year deal. And he couldn't commit to it. So yeah, so uh, we hit the open market. I got a three-year deal for way more than I ever would have expected, so great contract.
Speaker 4:Yeah, for me I was that's never gonna get that ever again in my life. So so it, it was bittersweet. Uh, you know, because I respected Paul and I respected, you know, the team and I had multiple talks with Brian. Larry at the time was saying, don't talk to Brian, and then it got a little hairy. I'm like, listen, I'm just going to talk to Brian and figure this out, because I didn't want any stigma there, because I respected everything they did for me in Ottawa. But going to the island, it was a transition, definitely. But I got to know Gar Snow and some of the guys on the team, yeah, fairly quickly, like eric bolton, like, yeah, what a beauty he is.
Speaker 4:And and, uh, we got along great when, when we we got together there, we fought each other a couple times I know yeah, yeah and, uh, he says he got the better of me on on one, but like, yeah, I like well, because the first one I knocked you out, right, but no, we got along great. My three years there, you know, my first year was cut in half because of the lockout, yeah, and then we got back in. We made playoffs first time in a long time and it was a real cool environment, yeah, you know, and we lost again in the first round, but that coliseum was rocking yeah they have.
Speaker 3:They have a culture there that yeah you can see how they were fueled, still from a couple generations before.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, I think the tickets were. You get tickets for like 13 bucks when I was playing there really it was great, like some, some nights was it was dead, but as we went on in the season when we made playoffs, that place was rocking Wow. The.
Speaker 4:Coliseum was crazy, wow. And now you know UBS. I haven't been there yet, but you know they've got such a great following. Fans are passionate. Obviously. History galore there. The people like you know. You get to know Clark Gillies. You get to know Clark Gillies. You get to know Trotz. You get to know like all these guys Billy Smith, we had some alumni weekends. Yeah, they're great guys, they told stories Like oh my gosh and Clark Gillies.
Speaker 3:One of the best human beings on the planet. I know, just devastating losing him, boss, you know. And Denny Popping's brother, jean, was an Islander as well. They, I'll do it as well. They all went within a few months of each other. Yeah, it's freaking sad. It's a ghost man. You've got to enjoy the ride, man, yeah.
Speaker 4:No, and I was blessed. I didn't have a great personal career in the island, but I loved my time there. They brought me right in with open arms, and part of the alumni, part of the staff at Post Hockey.
Speaker 3:Great.
Speaker 4:That's how I got into coaching.
Speaker 3:That's when you went into Bridgeport, right yeah, transitioned right there I talked to Snowy.
Speaker 4:I had a couple beers with him at a sushi restaurant. He's like what do you want for your coaching contract? I'm like give me two years as a player coach and then we'll get into it. And you know, he was great with that and it helped me ease into the post-hockey career. But, yeah, the people there I have the utmost respect for and good time there. Two or three years we were in playoffs, yeah, and then I got into coaching right after.
Speaker 1:So let me ask you this, because I as a you know, a Bruins fan, but a Sens fan local, you know I look at you and I associate you with a Sens jersey. Right, and you've spent as much time in an Islander jersey. Yeah. Right. If someone says, okay, we're having an alumni game, islanders against the Senators. Where do you?
Speaker 4:lace up. I've got to go with the Sens, unfortunately. Yeah, for the Isles fans. They'd really be heartbroken because they don't have a lot of you know players to cheer for. But no, I definitely you. You know that's where my home is and, yeah and uh, I had my best years there. I I'm I'm not a fool. It was. There were some great moments in ottawa and great people, and that's where all my family and friends are wow, you know, there you have it, folks.
Speaker 1:You know what matt karkner doesn't like new york?
Speaker 2:yeah, exactly yeah, I'm just shit disturbing uh yeah, uh, so more questions?
Speaker 3:Yeah, just a few yeah just a few I want to get if you can talk about the Condors and your involvement with them and I know others have stepped up after you left but what gave you the impetus to do that?
Speaker 4:I don't know that my obviously my upbringing right. You know my family you're a product of your environment. My dad and mother, like they, always taught me to give back to the community. So whenever I got a little bit of a platform, I always tried to give back, whether it was, you know, toys for Tots we did Carks Christmas, where we work with big brothers and big sisters give kids what they need and what they would want as well. Through the years I've just given back.
Speaker 4:So when I got to Ottawa, I'm relatively a new player and I just wanted to get involved with the community in some way, because that's my hometown. So I met Jim Perkins through my agent, larry Kelly, and we had coffee and we hit it off. He told me about their program. They had about 27 kids who they worked with special needs hockey. It was something new and they're trying to start up. I'm like, yeah, I'll get behind that. That's pretty awesome. My first skate, I was hooked. The kids were amazing. They were so passionate because before that they weren't able to get on the ice.
Speaker 4:They were just able to watch their siblings play. And why can't I play? Well, Jim provided them that opportunity, and I'll tell you what. Every time on the ice they were winning the Stanley Cup, it was incredible.
Speaker 3:Some of the videos of it is pretty amazing. Oh, that's awesome. I went out the one time. I don't know if you remember or not. It's pretty amazing. Oh, that's awesome. I went out the one time. I don't know if you remember or not. They called me, asked me to go out and I went out, did a little something, but I mean your involvement. And then it's continued. Oh yeah, so it's kudos man. Oh yeah, well.
Speaker 4:Taurus and then Boro. Who? I just saw this last.
Speaker 3:There's another beauty right there, oh my gosh with the nashville.
Speaker 4:Now right, and I met him. They were doing the the rookie tournament down here in florida.
Speaker 4:So I ran into all those guys and yeah, man, he, they all are passionate about the condor still and they give back as much as they can. I don't get to do as much as I used to because I've been down here in florida, but uh, you know, I pipe up here and there and make sure I keep tabs on on the kids and gym and what they're doing. So they're doing doing incredible things. I think the team when I started was what did I say? 27 or so kids. Last time I heard they have like waiting lists of like you know, 200 kids trying to get involved and they have three teams.
Speaker 3:Well, because no one ever would have thought that there would be an opportunity for these kids and because you jumped in.
Speaker 4:you know they were already trying to get the program going someone like you and like you said, tourists, borrow these guys that came along after uh, it's just brady right now or who it is, but it's uh, so I don't know who's involved right now.
Speaker 3:I gotta talk to uh, it's, it's something, it's somebody, though, because I remember last year they came back from a game or something. They went right to the condors thing, yeah, but uh can't exactly remember who that was. But anyways, it's just fantastic stuff. Um, your head coach in Bridgeport, brent, uh, thompson, thompson did. Uh, you played against him, did you not?
Speaker 4:I did, yeah, yeah hardest cross checker you'll ever meet.
Speaker 4:He yeah like he's got a rep oh yeah, oh yeah yeah, no, he, I, I knew of him and Rocky Thompson. They were both on Hershey Bears, right. So the first time I was a rookie I went and played them. Like these Thompson guys, like who are these Thompson guys? He's like, oh, yeah, watch out. So I challenged Brent, yeah, and he cross-checked me as hard as he could five times in my arm and I couldn't lift my arm. And he's like you still want to go? I'm like, no, I'm good. Oh, but no, he was my head coach as a player. He was my assistant coach as a player with the Islanders and when I came down to Bridgeport, he was my head coach and then I was his assistant coach for a little while there. Now he's in Anaheim with Cronin, who you know. They got their work cut out for them, but it's a young, talented group they get to work with and I'm just happy for him to get back to the NHL.
Speaker 4:You guys both won the Yannick Dupree. Yeah, that's right, that's weird tough guys. Yeah, good people, good community guys. Going back to what Chris?
Speaker 3:said a few minutes ago. That's funny how it works. Yeah, you know that's true man, whether you get into coaching or the tough guys, get involved in community events and well, you know what we won a community award and Brent Thompson won a community award. It was the exact same one.
Speaker 1:As a general rule, I found that the tough guys are generally not the assholes.
Speaker 2:No, that's good. Good to hear there's a few. Are there? Yeah, donald Brashear would probably be at the top of that list.
Speaker 3:I don't know I just don't want to tell you any names him too.
Speaker 4:Actually, it was your first regular season fight ever, that's right, yeah, yeah, luke richardson actually, uh, talked to me about fighting him gave me a few tips.
Speaker 4:So it was good. Yeah, help, yeah, help me out a little bit. Brash the lefty yeah well, he just gets in, he gets in, he goes to. So I, my first one, I just I. It's a little bit of secret service training. We got to do with the sentence too, but I just palmed him right in the face until he was stretched right out, and then I got him with a couple good ones and he went down. So it was helpful.
Speaker 3:Luke helped, that's the way Luke Look at Luke coming through.
Speaker 4:He's a coach right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, coaching, hey, it's all about coaching Ottawa guy, taking care of an Ottawa guy Absolutely. You know there you go? I was wondering about Brett because I remember hearing about him in the American Hockey League. He had a rep. I said, well, matty, maybe must have gone him. Yeah, you know. Oh, yeah, you just missed Jerry Fleming, I think, and some of those guys.
Speaker 3:But I don't want to belabor the point, but you're just starting your first year pro as Bob Probert's retiring out of the NHL and you know I get asked this all the time and now you played the role you played. You know almost 250 games in the NHL, 15 years pro and playoffs, nhl, everything else, the Brian Boyle thing and stuff. So would a guy like you, would you look back and, even though you didn't get a chance to play against him or certainly fight him, but does Proby, does he hold a certain regard for you in terms of his reputation and what he did?
Speaker 4:Oh yeah For the role. I think too right. Yeah, no, 100%. You know, growing up I was a Red Wings fan. Yeah, I couldn't stand. I don't know Montreal and Toronto, I don't know. And when the Sens weren't around when I was young, right. So I followed Detroit because of Stevie Y. And then obviously you see Pro Proby out there and you're like, oh boy, this guy knows what he's doing.
Speaker 4:And produced and had that respect and could go through a brick wall. But yeah, no, he was one of those guys that you followed and that I respected. They don't make them like that anymore. No, they don't. It's such a sad story to hear him go, but man, he played, he was, he was all in. Yeah, there's no toe dipping with him, that's for sure no, and and also matt, as we wind down here.
Speaker 3:Uh, I've had the good pleasure to meet your dad yeah and I know he's uh as we're taping this series companies coming in tomorrow night, which is which is uh. Which is awesome, uh, that car rally. We did a car rally, charity car rally. I won't go into all the details, but anyways it was. Let's just say it was in the rules. We kind of acted like we're in the rules, which is right up my alley too chris is.
Speaker 4:You know I had no idea.
Speaker 3:I know shocker there but uh, winchester, I know you say morewood, but uh, winchester, I don't notice as well. Like you fought max wieger, he played junior b for the winchester. You're fighting the guy who played for the Hawks, for God's sake. But but uh, I mean, just maybe speak to to you know Morwood and Winchester and what that, what those communities meant for you growing up, oh yeah.
Speaker 4:Well, honestly, like I was from Morwood, like originally, so Winchester was a big town to me.
Speaker 4:So, I was going through public school, I had seven kids in my class so we we knew everyone. My dad was a big, big community guy so he started his business from the ground up and we were kind of integrated into the community. But everyone supports each other, everyone follows each other. You know their careers, where they're going, whether it's you know sports or or otherwise. Um, but for me, like I had a tremendous amount of respect and support from everyone in the community and when I came back from, whether it's junior or pro, you know just everyone just loves to talk and sit and tell stories and, you know, have a cold one here and there you know, even in the car rallies, yes, car rallies.
Speaker 4:Especially Mr D. Especially Mr D but no, they're all good people, good salt of the earth people, and I haven't been back enough, but when I do go back it's, you know, everyone's, everyone's, you know, very, very happy to sit and have a good conversation and, just like you said, the car ride. The support for that was tremendous unreal. I think we did it three years and I think we raised over $300,000 for the hospital. That's pretty outstanding for a small community.
Speaker 3:And Terry Carpenter was there. So you guys are what third cousins or something? We're like third cousins.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I don't know we had the same. Actually it's through the yeah, it's through. Brian Helmer is actually closer related to Terry oh is that right Okay?
Speaker 3:And me and Brian are cousins and brother-in-laws, cousins and brother-in-laws yeah, yeah, watch out.
Speaker 4:It's a small town.
Speaker 1:Okay, you know what. We're going to stop this right. Here we get to the ancestry DNA stuff here, Turns out that you know. Two cousins marry two sisters, that's right, there's no relation. You know what I know and you know what I get. That because I have the same thing. Okay, there you go. There you go.
Speaker 3:Small towns, small towns, can't beat them.
Speaker 1:Can't beat them. So you're not only a coach now, you're a dad. Yeah, slash trying to. You know you don't want to coach your kid, right, but you want to mentor him? Okay, so tell me what it's like having a kid, because my understanding is your son's a prospect, yeah, right, well, no, don't be fucking. Oh, I'm going to be nonchalant about it. You know what I mean. You know if you're going to. You know, be proud. No, be proud.
Speaker 4:We say, yeah, he is Both of my boys are doing the best they can with what they got. That's all you can ask for is to compete. The passions there, the skill and all that is something we work on all the time. But for me, as a dad, I'm always happy. But it is hard to separate the coach from the dad and they will give me cues because I was on the bench for my son. He was a mid-fairfield player. We went to the Nationals a few years ago and I got to coach because I was off working with. I was let go by the Islanders and was kind of in between Best time of my life coaching my kid and seeing him develop. But we built kind of a dialogue. I found if I was really hard on him he'd start playing better. Wow.
Speaker 1:A lot of fathers find that, oh yeah, but then the problem is after a while.
Speaker 4:That wore off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I got the look.
Speaker 4:So we figured each other out and that's all it is is just figuring out when to draw the line. I let him have some time after the game and I usually only give him one kind of tip. I don't want to over coach the kid. It's up to him. He's got to figure it out. If he doesn't want it, he's not going to take it anywhere. So I can only help him out so much. And if he tries to play like me, he's probably not going very far because he's got to know how to skate and how to handle a puck. So you know it's a new game, it's fast, they're both doing the best they can.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's good, though you're going to be happy about that?
Speaker 4:Oh, absolutely no. There's nothing better than going on the ice with my boys. They come here and they skate with this team and they fit in. They're good players, so it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3:Well, you coached your son, I coached my son.
Speaker 1:I mean, was it not the best? It was the best. You know what I have to admit it was. It was. It was good times and I always had a the. My challenge was always I didn't say he, you know, he would say to me dad, you got to get me to do this, but you got to tell me why. And I was always like you know, you gotta, you know, I can't, like I can't, you know, so I don't know what did I fuck up? A lot, absolutely right, I Right. Should I have done this? More of that, less of this? Yeah, of course, but you know what, when your kid goes out and he scores a goal and he comes back with that smile, yeah.
Speaker 3:You can't buy that.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean you can't buy that kind of pride. Just with teammates.
Speaker 3:What hockey instills, everything that hockey instills. Yeah, that kind of pride Just with teammates. What hockey instills? Everything that hockey instills, yeah, you know. Just backing each other up and winning as a team, losing as a team. You know you learn so much from losing too Absolutely. But, it's, oh God, 13 years and I loved every second of it.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, I wish I could have done it longer, but that's what we do, like our identity videos, we do here with the Solar Bears. It's not about the highlights, it's about pointing, like being proud of your teammate for making that play guys sticking up for each other blocking shots. That's what it's all about being a good teammate. So for my kids to see them kind of doing that and trying to pull in the right direction, character-wise, that makes me happy, more happy than anything.
Speaker 1:So let me ask you this question. You know you spent some time in the A, spent some time in the NHL. There's got to be one or two memorable stories from the road. And you know what we can change the names to protect the identities.
Speaker 4:Well, I don't know if I've already told this. I don't know if I want to let this cat out of the bag. Anyways, Kneeler's a big prankster, right. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he is. Yeah, well, anyways, kneeler, you're not watching this, I hope. But there was one night where you know we always, we get off the plane, we get in the bus laid out for us In each pamphlet there's two keys. So I took one of Miller's keys and just left his in. So he thought, you know, he just has his key, goes to his room. So I waited we're going to go meet for dinner and I waited for him to leave and I got in his room, obviously, and yeah, his mattress was in his bathroom, all the lights were light bulbs were taken out, I had the closet door wedged and then I put a full bucket of water on top of the closet.
Speaker 4:No way On the outside of the door I put toothpaste. So my thought was he's going to open the door. He's going to be like what the hell is this? Walk into the closet door. The water falls down. You know, I had it planned out real well.
Speaker 4:So then, like you know, it happens. So then, like you know, it happens. Days go on and he's quiet. He's quiet Like he's pissed off in the dressing room. I know why, but no one else knows why. Because he gets everyone. No one gets Chris, and he pulled me aside the one day. He's like Kirk, did you do my room? And he looks mad. I'm like no sir, no sir. So he's been trying to figure that one out for quite a while and, I'm confessing, wait a minute.
Speaker 1:It was me, it was me. This is breaking news.
Speaker 3:Breaking news, you mean to this day he still doesn't know.
Speaker 4:I don't think he knows it was me, no, no. He might have his suspicions, but he was still looking after it Because he asked you and you denied it.
Speaker 3:I denied it. Which do it? Yeah right, denial is not just a river in egypt.
Speaker 4:Absolutely right, and uh, he went around and I could tell he was fishing for it, but uh, yeah, that was the one time I got.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's awesome he would do some good ones. Man he was. He was like what, like tell me, tell one of his, well, he, he would. Uh, he would get a jack under your car and like lift it up so the wheels are off like that much. So when you go to put it in reverse, like your car doesn't go to work, he'd sew your pocket shut with all your crap on it, right your keys and all that. I think he even glued shoes to the floor one time.
Speaker 1:I'm actually impressed, oh my. God. He probably had someone.
Speaker 4:He probably had a trainer. But no, he was full of good ones. That's just, I'm sure, a small list of what he did, for sure.
Speaker 1:Wow, good question. So you guys are really mature, is what you're saying? Yeah, well, yeah, hey man.
Speaker 4:Bad, and you haven't even, I'm sure you heard of stupid money. You know like guys would Like the string. Yeah, well, for no. Eric Bolton in Long Island. They went to Morton's and they have these huge baked potatoes like on display. Well, he ate his full meal like a full ribeye meal. And then I guess Kolchuk said hey, bolts, how much for you to eat that potato Raw. And they put up money like here, you, moron, eat this and if you finish it we'll give you all this money. So he had a probably a five pound raw baked potato for for money, for entertainment. You know this is what these morons do. So are we really that mature players? But you gotta have fun right when you're wow, this is you're gonna unwind and it's.
Speaker 1:It's stupid stuff like that, that kind of you know, yeah, brings you back to it for sure. Well, well, okay. So are you done? Are you finished? Are you through? I think I'm just about done. Yeah, so we have a question that we've been asking everybody and you seem like you're a man about town, right? So when you go out on Saturday night like non-game night to karaoke what's the go-to?
Speaker 4:song oh geez. Well, this is for my. Oh my gosh, I'm drawing a blank. But dolly parton and uh and kenny rogers islands in the stream yeah me and my sister-in-law pam yes, that's our go-to.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so that's.
Speaker 4:I do it with helmers all the time okay karaoke. So that that's the one song she always is like. I don't know why, but she picks me and I'm kenny, she's dolly we there you go, there you go. You know what I?
Speaker 1:gotta tell you so, even though you were going blank, you were the best. You've been the best answer so far. Oh, thank you. Not only did you know the artist, you know this, like it's just I'm telling you yeah, can you?
Speaker 4:do a few bars I could, but you know this doesn't tune very well. We have to have a lot of background noise and all that.
Speaker 1:Well, I can tell you one thing this nose has been tuned a few times. My mouth gets me into that trouble. Well, listen, this has been absolutely fantastic. I've got to thank you Most appreciated Thanks.
Speaker 3:Mark, thank you Very much appreciated.
Speaker 1:This has been Offside with Haas and McGuire. I'm Haas, I'm McGuire. That's Karkner G'day. Hey, welcome back. So again, that was our interview with Matt Karkner, and what a like you know what, what a sweet guy, really nice guy. I truly hope that he progresses. You know, I'd like to see him stay in Orlando, because it's a nice place to have your family and absolutely yeah but you know, he obviously has ambition no question a head coach in the American League and then a head coach in the NHL, absolutely, right, right.
Speaker 1:So I do uh, matt, I wish you all the best. I hope that you do, uh, you know, get both, uh the American league and the NHL, and uh, just remember, like you know, who your fucking friends are. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. Okay, but when I come down to Orlando, I want to go to the game Like I want to go Well.
Speaker 3:I think he made that quite apparent. Anytime we're there, we've got carte blanche, and the irony, of course, was the Spittin' Chicklets guys were coming in the next night.
Speaker 1:They were coming the next night. Yeah, he does talk about that For a big promotion. Yeah, yeah, Of course he talked about that yeah, yeah and listen, I'm all for the Spittin' Chicklets guys Like, honestly, you know what?
Speaker 3:To be honest, like I've got a tiny relationship with biz, so so maybe this summer, you know, I'll be able uh, I'll figure something out. I do, like what he, what he did, say you know, we didn't, I didn't write this down or anything but the university men's team, university new brunswick, just won, I just, I just umpteenth, umpteenth title. They didn't lose a game. Yeah, they didn't lose a game all year. They didn't get scored on in the finals. Yeah.
Speaker 3:They didn't get scored on. Chris Forget about losing a game Like I don't know if there's enough being said about this. So Biz is suggesting that they play an exhibition game against whoever wins the NCAA.
Speaker 1:The Frozen Four. You know what? I think it's a great idea, and he says that they'll put up the money. Yeah, you'll put up the money. Yeah, I mean what money?
Speaker 3:Well, I mean you'd have to. You know there'd be some costs. I mean, who knows? I mean you'd have to fly people into a common rink and decide where you're going to play in Canada.
Speaker 1:You're going to play in the States. No, you do it in New Brunswick.
Speaker 3:You're doing it in New Brunswick because, yeah, because the NCAA should be favored because they're Well, I don't know I mean. So why would you do it in New Brunswick automatically, though?
Speaker 1:Oh, because you've got the fan base.
Speaker 3:You've got people who are going to.
Speaker 1:I know, but you're playing an NCAA team they're not going to get. You think that they're going to play a Canadian team? You think they're going to get the numbers that New Brunswick's going to get?
Speaker 3:I think you would. Are you kidding? If you build this, unb hasn't lost all year. Can you imagine? I mean it's never going to happen. You know that's because it's not. It won't. It'll never be sanctioned, it would never be sanctioned it.
Speaker 1:You just get the same guys, okay. Yeah. And you create a summer hockey league.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, you said the summer hockey.
Speaker 3:Not going to happen, but it's a great thought and UNB deserves a credit, more than credit. This is something unbelievable. What's going on there? Yeah, we had a window in here with basketball. We talked earlier in the show about basketball with Dave Smart and Carlton University. That's right. What he did nationally with that team is unbelievable. This is the first year in 20 years Carleton Ravens didn't make the playoffs in 20 years. That's un-freaking-heard of. And in that time period, I think they won what? 11, 12 championships I don't even know how many. Right, I mean these are national championships. It was un-freaking-believable what Dave Smart and that program was.
Speaker 1:But you know what the Ottawa U program was also.
Speaker 3:Wasn't that.
Speaker 1:It was pretty close.
Speaker 3:No, they were good. No, they were up there?
Speaker 1:Yes, no, they would compete. They were competing Okay.
Speaker 3:They could compete, but they didn't win 11 or 12 or seven consecutive, or whatever it was.
Speaker 1:They didn't come anywhere near that, yes, as good as an NCAA team.
Speaker 3:Well, who knows In basketball, who knows?
Speaker 1:I'm sure Carlton was Well again there was Because they would have Carlton University used to have NCAA teams come up.
Speaker 3:Oh, I know, I know all that. I know that they played them and they beat a lot of them, yeah, but I don't know how you know who was playing starters, whatever they were, exhibition games Like Like there was there was. People were saying why not take the Canadian national champion and put them in the play in games, you know, before you get into the grouping of 64 there, have the play in those last spots, have a Canadian team compete in one of those, and you know, see what happens. I would have loved had Carlton had that opportunity.
Speaker 1:Can you imagine if, if a Canadian university had the money for athletics, that a US fucking NCAA program?
Speaker 3:has. It's a game changer. Let's be honest, they're game changers down there.
Speaker 1:So UNB going back to hockey. Yeah. So, if I'm not mistaken, they're the school that brought in Danton to play after he got out of jail. Do you remember that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I remember that it was definitely an Atlantic province, yeah.
Speaker 1:I thought it was UNB to be honest with you. And he only played for a year and a half or something like that.
Speaker 3:I think you may be right. When we were at the school.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I don't know if that was the start of the program. You know, yeah, um, but you know, I don't know if that was the start of the program. They realized, you know we can, we can actually attract some decent talent here or what you know.
Speaker 3:You know what it is success breeds success, but it has to start somewhere, and I don't know what's going on there, but uh, I know austin keating from the ottawa 67s was a key component of this year's team. I saw his interview and him talking about just the what they had had going on. It's on, it's, it's it. It really is something we're we're removed from it here and it's not front page news even in sports. It got a cursory mention on all the sports desks and whatnot. Isn't that sad Kind of I think? Because you know well, it's university hockey, so it won't get anywhere near the play of the Memorial cup.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, most Cup, will you know Most players they want if you look at the average age of players on the NCAA team okay, the younger players are 20. So they actually, come you know, post a junior career. You know, junior A, tier two okay, cjhl, whatever it is they come after that.
Speaker 1:So they're seasoned hockey players. When they get there, yeah, they've been coached and those leagues that's CGHL League here and that's in Ontario, but out west it's the Western Hockey League. You know what I mean? And that's the Humboldt guys and everything. Those guys are coached well, yeah, and they're developed. So when they get to the NCAA and they get to these places and they're on their scholarships and they're getting their education and all that stuff right, yeah, okay, I mean, these are the best of the best and that's why the NCAA is a good. You know, it's a good league and everybody says it's better that you know an NCAA.
Speaker 3:Well, the majority of players that are drafted that make the NHL still come from Canadian Major Junior Right. So that's a fact. So it's not the NCAA. So the NCAA, I still think, is getting as much as it's developed in the last 20 or 30 years than it has?
Speaker 1:Are you of the belief that and I heard this just the other day A lot of people believe that an NCAA uh div one team will would beat a major junior team in in like? So if you were?
Speaker 3:to well, I think the age difference would be would be the deciding factor. Now, I don't think they'd beat the memorial cup winners. No, I don't think they would. I think the memorial cup winner would be whoever wins div one, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'd like to see that so would I. That's another one, so would I Biz. This is spitting chicklets. We don't have the money to back this kind of thing, but you do, okay. So either give us the money so we can back it, yeah, or you start doing it.
Speaker 3:We'll have a series of meetings and then we'll get back to you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, and then we'll get back to you and you know absolutely, our secretary will do your secretary at lunch and then, uh, we'll get things going now. Speaking of leagues, yeah, okay, so this was the this past week and this week now. Uh, as well, are the leagues that I'm in okay?
Speaker 3:uh the finals. So the over 50 yeah, okay, over 90 as it's effectively referred, it's the U65.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's the U65. Okay, the U65 league had their championship this week, yep. So we played Tuesday, friday and we had a couple of playoff games, but Tuesday, friday and then Saturday was the championship, right, okay, now, unfortunately I was unable to play. I'm still Recovering. My God, Recovering my God. Recovering, okay, but I was dying. Yeah, I was dying.
Speaker 3:Well, it had to be tough to go and watch, for God's sake, and I'm there.
Speaker 1:I'm watching and I was behind the bench. Listen, there were some key moves I made. I had no doubt about it. All right, yeah, but so behind the bench, but I wanted to be on the ice.
Speaker 3:Nobody shut down Jimmy Cooper. Do you know what?
Speaker 1:Jimmy has hands right. He's got hands, he's always had hands.
Speaker 3:He's had his own health issues. He's had some cancer. He's had some things. He's had his own health issues.
Speaker 1:There he is out there, boy, he was parading that trophy around like it was the Stanley Cup, so he beat my team.
Speaker 3:I know.
Speaker 1:He beat my team and I wasn't there.
Speaker 4:It's a difference if you're on the ice.
Speaker 3:You're not going to say it, but I will. I know that for a fact. If you're playing in that game, I think maybe it's a different outcome. Well, do you know?
Speaker 1:what I don't know. No, not in the shape that I'm in, like, not in the physical, not right now. Yeah, now, yeah, but let's turn the clock back like three months. Oh, give me Chris Hawes from.
Speaker 2:November and December you know, just right after the stroke. Let's go back to September.
Speaker 1:Okay well, I just can't roll it back before the September yeah okay, I came out of the gate pretty strong, no yeah you know what I would have been.
Speaker 1:I would have made an impact. I can't say that I would have been a game changer. Yeah, okay, if, if other people want to say that they can. You know what I mean. I don't want to sound, I don't want to sound arrogant, but you know what I said. So Friday night we're going in and we got the championship game, we're at the pub, cause, you know what I mean we're training, yeah, okay. So Friday night and and I'm like you know, do I play tomorrow? Like I can take just a couple of shifts? Right, I'm thinking to myself play a couple of shifts, see what I can do, because I know I can score, but I don't know if I can. You know, whatever. And the guy's well, you shouldn't you know what I mean? Blah, blah, blah. I said yeah, but I, you know, and this chick goes to me well, fuck, don't you sound like a douche to me? And I go, what? And she was there with one of the guys on the team and he goes fuck.
Speaker 1:You don't understand. You know what I mean. He's our top fucking scorer. You know what I mean. But I could see somebody who doesn't know when I'm saying to the other guys on the team do I play, what do you want me to do?
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying to the other guys on the team like do I play? Like do what do you want me to? You know? Yeah, yeah, okay, but I guess it came off sounding pretty fucking. You know what I mean? Yeah, shorzy. Like yeah, I mean, oh. So I gave my balls a tug and I said no, I'm not gonna play. So I didn't play. I was there and we ended up losing and it was devastating.
Speaker 3:I fucking hate losing yeah, fucking hate lose always tough.
Speaker 1:Okay, for an hour or so to your third point and then so, and then I'm in, uh, barheaven league and the finals are this week, right, uh, and we're not in the in the championships yeah, you know yeah, uh, but on the over 40 league. So yeah the, the? U the u50 league. Yeah, okay, in the u50 league much more competitive.
Speaker 3:Let me tell you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, it's way faster and there's like way more shit happening right. Like there's a lot. Like there are guys who are still jacked up on testosterone, like by the time you're playing the u65. Like there's a lot of testosterone depletion, yeah there's a lot. You know there are a few altercations here and there, yeah, but you know, generally not, you know, but it's going to be. So I'm actually going to go out for a few shifts tonight because I yeah I'm going to give it a try, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1:Good, uh, and then, because if we win tonight, we can go on, we go on to the a final, we can win right, the championship the championship and, at the end of the day, this is with Quentin's team.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's Quentin's team.
Speaker 1:So so this is Bubba Bubba's on the team what time's? The game 11 o'clock. Oh, it's an 11 o'clock game. So you know, I have. I thought it was 10. No, I thought it was 10. No, I thought it was 10 too, but I looked again, it's 11 o'clock. Okay so, but you know, sure come.
Speaker 3:You know I mean at the end of the day it's. I'm leaving tomorrow morning early for Quebec City Go see my mom. Okay, all right, but you know.
Speaker 1:I'll see you. It's not like the first time. You've fucking stayed up all night and left're somewhere.
Speaker 3:Well, it might be.
Speaker 1:Let me check my watch. I mean, well, listen, 11 o'clock game, 12 o'clock we go to the pub, yeah. Right yeah. Okay, and they stay open, for this is what I love about a small town. Yeah, so we go to the pub. They know you're coming. They know we're coming. Yeah, right, and, and Kelly was one of the servers. Yes, outstanding. She's awesome. She meets me. I don't I as soon as I literally.
Speaker 3:I get to the table and she hands me my Gretz. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I have I double Gretzky neat Okay, yeah. And a Coke Okay, Cause you know I'm driving yeah. And not and, by the way, not a pepsi, that's right okay but but so she there and I love that, I love that right, and she knows whatever other guys you know, so we go there, okay. And then the question is is am I getting wings or not?
Speaker 3:right, that's the big question, yeah and and I, I struggle yeah, it's got to be a tough decision before you say yes oh, oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1:You know what? It's almost the same decision that Abraham had to make, Saying oh my God, what do I do? God tell me.
Speaker 3:Wings breaded or not.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I know my God.
Speaker 1:So, anyways, that's the plan To go play, have the post-game refreshment. Yeah. Right, and then head to the pub yeah Right. And then head to the pub yeah, and then do that and hopefully plan for Saturday's championship and hoisting that trophy I should. You know, I've been lucky enough to be on a number of, like, winning teams yeah Right Over the years. Yeah, and it feels good.
Speaker 3:It's good to win in anything. Old guy hockey doesn't matter. I've been there, done that too. Ask anybody who's played yeah, anything and won, and if later in life they'll, they'll tell you. I look back at stuff I won in the 80s with my buds and they're some of the greatest memories of my life.
Speaker 1:Oh, and you know, uh, kent mcdonald. Do you know kent mcdonald?
Speaker 3:kip bill, he's a welder, he built a cup a stanley cup I saw, so is that the one that was in there on?
Speaker 1:probably.
Speaker 3:I know the cup that was not the one that jimmy had no, not the one that jimmy had, but who had the other one in there? It looked like a mini stanley cup.
Speaker 1:Okay, and that would have been it. That would. That's the monday night one. Now, maybe you know what and I could be wrong, Because the Sunday night guys, okay, which are? They're younger? Yeah, they're 25.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah yeah, I saw them. I was in there, I saw them in there. It's Riley Dunbar and Justin Daniel, who was playing senior this year. He got traded so he didn't report, so he joins the Tick League and they end up winning. What a defenseman to pick up.
Speaker 1:Well, these are the guys that Evan used to play up with Riley Like. This is the thing. Long story short, they might have a similar cup as well. I don't know what they have, but the Monday Night Cup Kent McDonald made a number of years ago and it's a beauty. It's a Stanley Cup replica.
Speaker 1:I've hoisted that thing, over my head more than once, okay, actually about four times. Right, uh and uh. There's, I've got my christen. I don't know who took the picture. This is a great picture of me with nothing like basically my, my skates, still my socks, you know when you get you know, yeah, yeah. Most of my stuff You're gearing down. I'm gearing down in the middle of whatever, and I've got the cups right there, yeah, and I'm holding it and it's like you know, it's just a great feeling.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So this time of year is fucking the best time of year for playing hockey, for town leagues, town leagues everywhere. Like all over. You know when I'm up in Sudbury in the No-Show League. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Is that what they call it?
Speaker 1:Yes, they call it the No-Show League. The Northern Ontario Senior Hockey Organization.
Speaker 3:No-show, beautiful the.
Speaker 1:No-Show, that's from Shorzy.
Speaker 3:Shorzy, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Which, by the way, a couple of hot chicks in there.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, yeah. He knows where to butter the bread.
Speaker 1:Well, and you know, it's funny because they say this uh, there's an inordinate number of attractive women in Sudbury and there are. There are some, like I got to tell you. Women in Sudbury are awesome and most of them know how to clean a fish. Yeah. Okay, they hunt, you know I talk, we hunt, you know I, I talk we, you know I joke about this. I'll tell you know. Do you remember you know her? Okay, um joanne moss, oh yeah okay yeah, so jeff.
Speaker 3:So joanne's an ellie lake girl right yeah, and just fucking speaking of good skaters by the way, oh yeah, oh, she's an outstanding skater come on the ice with us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yeah, no, no, not only is she beautiful, yeah, okay, but she is a like a she hunts, she fishes. Yeah, she cuts the grass. She looks great in a bikini cutting the grass I don't know if you remember back in the day, we were all young, we're in our 20s, right? Yeah, okay, and she's out cutting the grass, getting sun and everything like that, and all the cars lined up for miles people coming all over. It's like making phone calls.
Speaker 1:Listen that joanne's out cutting the grass okay, uh, you know and and such like. First both her and jeff two of the greatest people. So nice yeah.
Speaker 3:How's all the kids too?
Speaker 1:So nice. Well, you know what Riley and Mariah they're great kids and. I haven't seen them in a long time. I know that they're in a band, you know it's nice the fathers are in a band, yeah, and Jeff plays.
Speaker 3:I mean, they're just awesome, they just don't get any better.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, so any better again. The good looking northern ontario yeah, I like it about it ensures you, yeah, but, uh, uh, yeah. So to everybody up northern ontario who is playing in their, their, their, their beer league finals yeah, this week. Yeah, okay, we got you. We understand, yeah, understand it. Um, okay, so we were going to talk about one more thing new york city well, the empire state, the rempire state.
Speaker 3:We don't have to belabor the point, it's real. Mostly just an update, chris, um, you know, I did go back and forth on um on on, in this particular case on facebook, not even my main facebook page but my author facebook page. Okay with a, jamie, if you watch the show. And I told you, I told you Rempe would be different when he came back from the suspension. Not so much maybe because he wanted to, because the Rangers are in a life and death battle here with Carolina to win the division and so he's played.
Speaker 3:They don't want to lose him. Well, not only do you not want to lose him, you can't't afford them having running around up there like an idiot taking five minute majors, you know, for that's going to leave you shorthanded right for five minutes, could cost you the game. He's played a total of 12 minutes and 43 seconds in two games, okay in two games, like one game five minutes and change, the other game seven minutes and change.
Speaker 3:He's played eight shifts, 12 shifts. He's got obviously nothing in points, but I mean he's got no penalties either, right, he hasn't. He hasn't drawn a penalty. So you know. Point is uh, you know, you're setting the table here too, for what really should happen in the playoffs with both him and Ryan Reeves is you platoon these guys? It's a best of seven. You decide when and where, depending on the temperature of the game and who you're playing, if you want to insert a guy 6'8" 250 with what he's already done in the league. But the point is, chris, is this I'll finish on this note.
Speaker 1:I'd have him standing right in front of the fucking net.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, unfortunately, you know the overall style of the playoffs. It does suit him in that sense, but I don't know that his game is necessarily up to speed for that with 12 NHL games under his belt. We'll see, listen. Laviolette may say exactly that. It may dress him. He may be in the starting 18 when they open the playoffs against whomever. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 3:But the point is this I said he was not going to come back and recklessly run around the ice and be fighting everybody like he was. Believe me, he's going to fight again. You know you can pretty much circle the date with the Habs and probably him and Wi-Fi are going to go more than likely right. But I mean, the point is that he's taken almost no shifts, let alone has he not got a penalty. And I think, if they're smart, what I would do is I would platoon a guy like him, as I would Toronto with Ryan Reeves, and you end up against Florida. You want him in the series early. You're going to open up in their barn.
Speaker 3:He's dressing. I got Ryan to line up both games and you see what the schedule is after that. You're playing a man down in terms of you only play these guys four, five, six minutes, maybe seven tops that, not even in the playoffs, probably. But at the end of the day that's eight or ten shifts that you as a coach can decide when you want to put him out there and he's your nuclear deterrent, which was rick bonus's turn or comment when he coached here in ottawa back in the day, and he was referring to mike peluso in ottawa's first year 92 93. He carried that all the way through his coaching career. Having said that, that's my thought. I just wanted to mention that we did talk a lot about rempe whenever, when everything happened and tom wilson has just got suspended a game, six games that's now the ninth one since brendan gallagher and everybody was wilson's.
Speaker 1:Uh, I, I don't understand, because 24th suspension this year. Yeah, I know that, but his was not on purpose.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, very obvious. He apologized right away Fuck bullshit. I mean, he did apologize. That's not bullshit. But he, he absolutely swung his stick recklessly trying to make contact with the head. In my opinion, all right, yeah, I think it was. You're going to give him the benefit of the doubt. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying is is I, you know what I actually thought? That his past caught up with him with this suspension? Because if you look at it and with everything that happened with respect to it, I would say it would be. I mean, and granted, it was a reckless.
Speaker 3:It may not have been as egregious as some of his previous five suspensions, but he's paying for it because of his previous. Well, I think that's the right call. Right call. I mean, he's already been suspended this year too, so you have to do something. I mean, the recklessness of the stick caused enough the nature of how it came flying around. I mean, if you're going to give Armia a double minor in overtime for a play that he had zero ability to control, zero ability to control, zero ability to control.
Speaker 1:Well then, this is a suspension too. Oh, it was an accident.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is that Armia, by the letter of the law, deserved that penalty, even though he had no control over it. But he deserved it because the result indicated he deserved it, and the blood makes it a double. That's right. Tom Wilson deserved the suspension.
Speaker 1:Right, but, like I say, I think it was six games because of his history.
Speaker 3:Well, it is as opposed to two games.
Speaker 1:Well, it wouldn't have been two.
Speaker 3:Probably would have been three, because it was a pretty egregious stick right to the face area. And then people are going to say, well, hold on. What about you know, trent Frederick getting hit earlier this year and nothing called? And I mean, it's just you know who knows, with George Peros and that committee sometimes, what the hell they're doing? I watched him in the meetings down there. I'm talking about some of the changes they're going to make and this and that I'm watching George. I realized, talking about some of the changes they're going to make and this and that I'm watching george, I realized how he played the game. You know, he was a pure, pure, pure enforcer in that era in that genre and everything else. And here he is now at the department of player safety it. It really is a contradiction in terms. Having said that, there you go wilson's a 24 suspension. Uh, he got suspended earlier this year. It was an automatic, it was going to be an in-person hearing you know, minimum five.
Speaker 1:So the over under on number of suspensions for the year I were.
Speaker 3:We're trending, and there was 27 last year, there are 24 right now. You got to get. They average one a week, yeah, so you know, we got three more weeks of hockey to go.
Speaker 1:Yeah pencil it in. Yeah, so you think, so you're. You're betting 27. I'll go with 27 over 27. No 27.
Speaker 3:No, I think it's 27 is a push. I think. Uh, you know, vegas would probably establish the odds at 26.5, so you got to take you over at 27. If you think it's going to be 27, I'd probably take the under because I think they'll probably go with two in the next three weeks all right, so you're taking the under, you're taking under 20, I'm going to take under 27.
Speaker 3:I think they're going to come in at 26, but I think. But they did have 27 last year. Okay, so so we'll see, see how it plays out. Having said that, you know, a lot of this suspension talk from me is largely because most of the world blew up on Brendan Gallagher nine suspensions ago.
Speaker 1:Ah, he just dropped the Gallagher.
Speaker 3:Not gonna Nope Not dropping it Not dropping it Not happening, I'll quit drinking before I start, start, uh, start, stop talking about brendy gallagher.
Speaker 1:Oh fucking, we're fucking doomed then there's never gonna happen, okay, so listen, speaking of which, we're, you're talking about odds, and we're gonna, we're gonna, close out yeah so someone asked me how, how? Someone asked me how, how are gambling apps going? Oh yeah, and I said I said did you even watch the video yeah okay, and they go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I said you realize that it was. It was sarcasm, it was satire. I yeah, I'm not actually promoting the betting on children's sports. Oh okay, I get it now and it's like really do you get it now? Yeah? And so uh, yeah, so I mean maybe we'll end it off, but I'll play that I'll put this at the end of this again. Yeah, you know, no, but listen, by this point in our show no one's even fucking watching no, no, we're doing okay.
Speaker 3:No, we've exhausted everybody.
Speaker 1:One guy who's working. He's been on the treadmill for six hours yeah, you know what I mean and we're still going, but as a general rule we lose them right after.
Speaker 3:It's offside at Hans McGuire.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no. We have actually the numbers. I can tell you the trending on how long people watch it, and that's why I get my political shit out of the way early, yeah Well you did today no. Okay, so listen. That's the end of the show. Yeah, okay, we'll be back after Easter, probably with some what do you call it? Chocolate, eggs and stuff. Sure, bunny rabbit. Yeah. When you eat your bunny rabbit, do you eat the ears first? What do you do?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I bite the head right off it Really. Yeah, right off it. I love chocolate too. I eat chocolate morning, noon and night. I eat a lot of chocolate Really. It goes great with beer. Yeah, it really does, really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it does. Yeah, I don't eat a lot of chocolate, but I do. I will tell you this. So I went. Did I say this already? I went to the gas station to get gas the other day yeah and I go inside and I say you know I'm craving something, yeah, so I go, and I go to get a chocolate bar, yeah, and I look and the sign says two long-haired freaking people need not apply exactly, exactly, exactly. We'll have to anyway. So two for six dollars.
Speaker 3:Wow, I go, two for six dollars it's a bargain of twice the price, like how much is the chocolate bar like I thought I?
Speaker 1:in my mind, the chocolate was a dollar oh okay, I see, yeah, so three bucks each.
Speaker 3:I'm going three dollars well, that seems a little hot I go to the guy.
Speaker 1:So well, how much is just one? And he goes. It's three dollars and 80 cents yeah, three dollars and 80 cents.
Speaker 1:I said, well, fuck that. I said well, fuck that, I don't need a chocolate bar. So I go and I just pay for my gas, I leave. And then I had to go to the grocery store. So I go over and I need it and Grace told me that I need because I like pudding right, because I'm old Pudding and pie. So I go and I was going to go over to the um, the dollar store, yeah, to get, um, uh, to get some pudding. Yeah, okay, because it's cheaper. So I go there and they got chocolate bars there 91 cents. Wow, 91 cents, almost three dollars less.
Speaker 3:And then I find out, giant tiger, it's, they're 89 cents even better, yeah so here's, here's my question you have loaded up on chocolate bars from gt no, I haven't.
Speaker 1:I just I honestly I bought. I bought two, though okay okay yeah, and it was two for under two dollars the way it should be okay yeah, the way it should be. Yeah, okay. So here's the thing. Don't tell me about fucking. You know, like I, I know that there's a lot of inflation going on, but there's a lot of fucking greed going on For sure. Do you know a can of Coke If I go to the gas station at the Four Corners, where the Gypsy used to be? Yep.
Speaker 1:Okay, I go to that gas station. A can of Coke is $1.29.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay. I hear Pepsi's 89 cents Just saying yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't settle. Okay, it's $1.29. At the gas station here at Mitch Owens okay, yep, it's $1.59. Wow 30 cents extra. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Come on, it's just fucking people ripping us all off. Look, we have to start fucking. I've been saying this in the end, we've got to stop fucking paying this ridiculous amounts of money for things and just fucking shut them down. I'm going to end this by calling all those people who are overcharging for things chocolate bars and fucking pizzas, and you know what I mean. You know what you are. You're all fucking bastards. This has been Haas McGuire. I'm Haas.
Speaker 3:I'm McGuire G'day.
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