Offside with Hawes and Maguire
Offside: with Hawes and Maguire is not your typical hockey show. This weekly
45-60 minute show is a potent combination of humour and genuine hockey insights that pushes the envelope.
- Liam is renowned for his photographic memory, lively storytelling, vast hockey knowledge and sometimes over-the-top passion for the game of hockey.
- Chris is known for his unrehearsed humour, contagious laughter and uncanny ability to make even the most serious debates end in boisterous guffaws.
Between the two, there is an infectious enthusiasm and professional chemistry that is evident from the outset. It can only be described as lightning in a bottle.
Offside with Hawes and Maguire
Irish Escapades and Playoff Heartbreak:Hockey Thrills, Coaching Spills.
Embrace the warmth of Northern Irish hospitality and the thrill of a nail-biting hockey series in our latest episode. We share the delightful adventures from Belfast to the Glens, where getting lost led to new friendships and a deeper appreciation for the local lagers. And for golf aficionados, join us behind the scenes as we navigate the exclusive booking of a coveted golf course—a tale of both triumph and the occasional hiccup in hotel arrangements.
The ice heats up as we recount the highs and lows of the Leafs vs. Bruins playoff series, a journey marked by regional broadcast frustrations and the absence of star players. Our analysis doesn't stop at the rink. We delve into the coaching carousel spinning through the NHL, with a focus on the Maple Leafs' future after Sheldon Keefe's departure. Opinions fly as we ponder the potential lineup shakeups and the implications of a hard-fought series for Toronto's team dynamics.
Closing with a personal connection to the Ottawa Asian Heritage hockey tournament and a nod to the community spirit of the Dickinson Day Parade, this episode is a rich tapestry of culture, sports, and the ties that bind them. So buckle up for a ride in a classic car and a journey through the heart of hockey—all served with a side of laughter and candid conversation.
it's offside with haas and mcguire, ready set go. Hey, it's offside with haas and mcguire. I'm haas, I'm mcguire. Welcome to our. This is our second playoff episode. Hey, welcome home. Hey, well, thank you very much. I've been traveling globetrotter here. I've been a wild rover.
Speaker 2:Yeah, been a wild rover.
Speaker 1:I've been a wild rover.
Speaker 2:I was in.
Speaker 1:Ireland. I was in Northern Ireland for two weeks.
Speaker 2:Spent all my money on whiskey I had whiskey and beer.
Speaker 1:I certainly did. Actually, I had a great time. Yeah, I had a great time. I reacquainted myself with my favorite lager, yeah, okay, and I know everybody likes oh, we got to have a Guinness. I'm not a big Guinness guy, neither am I. Okay, yeah, I like my lager. And there's a local lager called Rockshore, okay, okay, yeah, which it goes down so smooth. Yeah, oh, as does Redneck Lager here in Canada.
Speaker 1:Ding, ding, ding Sponsor shout out, but it's great and it's just. You know what. I just enjoy it, enjoyed the beer. I enjoyed the music I got to tell you Did you? Get up and play. I did. I brought a guitar. Yeah, and I left it there with my friends, okay.
Speaker 2:So that I don't have to keep lugging it back and forth, Because part of this trip correct me if I'm wrong, but some of this trip was a little bit of reconnaissance, was it not?
Speaker 1:It was significant reconnaissance for our trip in September.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And it was not that I hadn't been or all the things on this trip weren't known to me. What I wanted to do was to show up, without fanfare, yeah, okay, and see how the service was Right, and see if the because if I was going to change, if I get there and the hotel shit, yeah, it's like, okay, you know what, we'll just move the hotel Right, right, yeah. And if I get there and the service is whatever, you know, anyways, it was impeccable. The whole time I was telling you this, I was so impressed with the level of customer service in, you know, in the hospitality sector in Northern Ireland. It's not so much the same in the Republic in Northern Ireland. It's not so much the same in the Republic. I'm going to tell you right now is that the Republic is. They're so used to travel and tourism and it's just like it's a churning thing. But Northern Ireland is fairly new to having people come, but it is gangbusters now and they are so like. The people are so nice and friendly and willing to do anything. You know, if you're lost and this has happened to me we're lost and I'm looking for this place.
Speaker 1:And I said to this guy who was walking by. Excuse me, do you have any idea where such and such is? And he was speaking in an accent that was almost indiscernible to me and I was like what the fuck is this guy saying? He goes. Well, then he goes. Listen, just follow me. And he walks me in the opposite direction, from where he was going to take me to where I'm going. No way, yeah, yeah, to turn around. Okay, for the small cost of a whiskey. You know what? That's the level of friendliness, though, that most of Belfast is certainly like, and right up throughout the glens and stuff like that, people are absolutely amazing. Well, we'll see that in the.
Speaker 1:South. Now, I did hear him mutter Dick and Idjit was that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, people are absolutely amazing.
Speaker 1:Well, we'll see that. In the south now I did hear a mutter. It was such a good trip and you know what I am pleased to say. I tried to expand our trip right because I've had more people asking yeah you know, if anybody drops out, let me know.
Speaker 1:And I said, well, I'm going, and so I. And so I went through and I went to the first golf course and I said, listen, if I add another and by the way, the first golf course, seapoint, that we're playing in Drona we have the course to ourselves. So he says, absolutely, you can bring another. So they're planning maintenance that day, but they're not going to do it until after we play the holes. You've got to be kidding, yeah, yeah, we get the whole course to ourselves.
Speaker 2:Holy.
Speaker 1:Okay, wow, so that's pretty cool. So, and super nice that that group that owns it now they own a couple and so for our next trip we're linking in with them for some more spots. So we do that. So he goes oh, absolutely. So. Then the next day, I think I do Scrabble. Oh, I did Scrabble, okay, which, by the way, you'll be huffing, okay, because it's all walking right and this is hilly. It's hilly, but it's so fun, it's a fun course. Yeah, it's hilly, but it's so fun, it's a fun course and gorgeous views, and it's really great. And I said, you know, absolutely Okay. So I'm like, fuck, this is great. So I figure I'm going to increase our group, okay, and then I go to the hotel and the hotel goes you know what? We can accommodate you so we could get some more rooms. I said, great, they go. Well, we'll put them aside for you. And I said, okay, great.
Speaker 2:So then I go and I keep a roadblock coming here somewhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So the last hotel that we got to go to, which is up in Port Rush yeah, they don't have any rooms.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, so they it's. It's as a matter of fact. I got to talk to you about this and as we'll do it on air, as a matter of fact, I've got to talk to you about this and we'll do it on air, here we go, you and I are staying for one night, about 500 metres away from the main hotel in another hotel, a decent hotel.
Speaker 1:But we have to stay there because, they don't have enough rooms that other night and we're going to be there with some folks from another group because they don't It'll be, and we got a walk and I've arranged to drive. Oh no, no, no, I've arranged a guy to drive us there. Yeah, he's going to take us into town to the pub, pick us up, make sure we get home, okay, okay. So I've got all that arranged, but it was, I don't care about that buddy. You know that, but I could not get more rooms on the last time I went to.
Speaker 2:Ireland. I didn't even check in a couple places, so it doesn't matter to me. The boys still joke about that. Whose luggage is that? Then I rolled in at 7 in the morning or whatever. Oh really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. I went out after Well, good, but you know what? This time that's going to happen. Not going to happen because we have our personal concierge service yeah that's coming along. It's going to be bringing all of the luggage into your room oh, so at least make it out of the lobby, you'll make it out of the lobby. It'll be in the room and you know and listen, pace yourself. It's a fucking a whole time. It's not my first, you're an old man?
Speaker 2:yeah, no, I'm not. You're an old man? Yeah, no, I'm not.
Speaker 1:You're an old man, I've never been in better shape?
Speaker 2:Have you Never Really? Yeah, wow, best shape I've ever been in Mentally, physically, everything.
Speaker 1:Well, you look like shit, thank you. All right, listen, we got other stuff to talk about. We have so a few things happened while I was gone. First of all, I want to say I was over in Ireland yeah, how about those Leafs Following the Leafs-Boston series? Oh my God. And to be honest, I was shitting my pants, I guess. So I was like this is ridiculous. And then I watched the last game and it's like fucking tight.
Speaker 2:You would have shit your pants a lot more had you been watching the games, because the Leafs were the better team over the seven games. They were wow and and uh. Boston just found a way. And then, of course, anytime you go game seven overtime to flip them. But yeah, you must have been, because you would have been waking up in the morning. Well what?
Speaker 1:happened? Finding out what happened, except for the last game. What'd you do? I stayed up all night. No, you didn't. Yeah't. Yeah, I did, and I couldn't watch it. I have that on TV app.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Wouldn't work there. They have it blocked. I couldn't see the game anywhere. Okay, so I'm following these updates You're just getting live scores, I'm just getting live scores. Which there was almost none of which is exactly, and it's 4.30 in the morning.
Speaker 2:He must have shit when Toronto went up 1-0. Oh, 11 minutes to go in the period, they're up 1-0. Minute 21 later.
Speaker 1:I mean that whole thing. So 4.30 in the morning is when it ended for me. Yeah, that night, and I was like that. I was like now I can rest, now I can sleep.
Speaker 2:You would have died a thousand deaths. Being here, I'm sure many Bruin fans did. I mean. It was a great series really. On a lot of fronts Boston found a way.
Speaker 1:I understood, though, that it was kind of WWF, like there's so much grabbing and holding. And Am I wrong, like I'm just hearing reports?
Speaker 2:yes, I would not say it was anything extraordinary no, no not, not, not, in my opinion.
Speaker 2:I mean, you're going to talk to leaf fans who always find always going to cry about something like they never just lose, right, it's all, it's always something. So should have been a penalty shot, there should have been a cross check, there should have been whatever here, but the same thing, conversely, exact same way. Leafs scored one of their goals in one of the two games they won without Austin. Matthews Right, who sat out. That's. The other thing, chris, is that Nylander has migraines, can't play the first three games. He comes back. Matthews goes out of the lineup undisclosed illness, misses two games.
Speaker 2:Toronto wins them both yeah without Matthews I know and played well and really other than game three. I mean Matthews was a beast in game two to tie the series. Game three, the Leafs, just that was their worst game of the series and Boston goes up 2-1, then 3-1 on a on a on a game that really was probably a pick them. Then Toronto wins a two without Matthews and you get to game seven, which was really. It was a good effort by Boston in game seven, much better effort. Games five and six. They could barely get a shot on net in the first period.
Speaker 1:So this leads me to a concern that I have for the Bruins.
Speaker 2:Wow, you don't really think they were a cup threat this year. You didn't have that on your bingo card. I'm sure no.
Speaker 1:Bruin fan really does. No, no, no. But I had them go into the conference final Really, yeah, wow, I did. I really hoped. Well, I mean, okay, this is playing out exactly as you would have.
Speaker 2:We all figured Florida and Boston, that's right, especially Matthew Tuchok who really came to slam to the Leafs. Well listen, we all knew it was going to be Boston. Are you kidding me? It was Game 7 overtime. What a hammer job on the Leafs he did. But I'll tell you what I mean. I'm sure you saw the game the other night. I mean, you've got to be licking your lips for this game tonight.
Speaker 1:I mean, as we're taping this on the eve of Game 3 here. So I'm in Ireland still and I don't watch the first game of this series, and Boston, from what I could see, trounces.
Speaker 2:Florida.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they just ran them over the last two periods, so I get home Wednesday First thing literally I'm at home at like 6 o'clock at night. Florida yeah, they just ran them over the last two periods. So I get home Wednesday, okay, first thing, literally I'm at home at like 6 o'clock at night and you know you're fucking exhausted but the game's on, like you know. So I watch the game and I'm going through that and I couldn't fucking believe it. Florida like basically beat the shit out of Boston. It was pathetic.
Speaker 2:It was a role reversal from game one. Swayman had a tough game, you know.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what?
Speaker 2:They weren't bad goals, they weren't horrible, but they weren't great all of them, and they did the right thing pulling them.
Speaker 1:We'll see who starts tonight. Yeah, that was a respect thing.
Speaker 2:What would you do tonight? Would you go back to Swayman?
Speaker 1:tonight. Would you go back to swayman? Absolutely I would, I would, yeah, I would, and that's only because you know he's carried the mail. He's carried. Well, this is seven straight games. He lost one. Yeah, right, yeah, you can't change and I know that you've got a two-man system going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but in the playoffs anything about last year, where they blew the 3-1 lead against florida, and they didn't make the change when allmark had the bad game four, right, yeah well, so here's what I would say bad game five.
Speaker 1:I say you got to go back to uh, to uh to him, to Swayman yeah, you give him the chance to come back because, at the end of the day, the confidence level is important. Yeah, right, let him win this game and then he can take a rest and and you can let Allmark play the the the following game. You know, you don't have to stick with the same guy. As a matter of fact, it might even make sense to switch it up, but you need to build that kid's confidence back up. Right, that's my opinion, and it's not for his well-being, it's for the well-being of the team down the line.
Speaker 2:I think you're right. I think they will go back to Swayman. Myself, personally, I wouldn't. I would go with Elmark right now, because you're not even favored to win this series anyway.
Speaker 1:They scored two on him like that though yeah, I mean he wasn't that much better. I mean the reality was is that that's actually a good point?
Speaker 2:That's a good point Florida fucking dominated, dominated, that game. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And they threw them around, with the exception of the Marsha Kachuk hit going in there. That was a nice hit, yeah, that was beauty.
Speaker 2:That was a beautiful hit. That was probably a hit of the game.
Speaker 1:And you know what I loved the way Kachuk was when he came off with that yeah, he was smiling, he was laughing Of course, absolutely.
Speaker 2:The guy's a warrior. He's nowhere near as tough as Brady, but he's a warrior and he's probably got more talent than Brady, although Brady's very talented, but I mean really what everybody's talking about is Pasta and him going to Chuck. Like him going the video, the camera, going back to Monty and telling Monty I want to go.
Speaker 2:He's telling him I want to go Because you want to, and then Monty goes yeah, yeah, okay. So then Pasta turns around because the camera caught to Chuck before that. He's yelling over hey, pasta, I mean, at the end of the day there's still okay, crystal, we're going to go away. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay. So he yells over. So Pasta turns around back and he looks down at the bench and he's nodded like this yeah, we're going, yeah, we're going, and he goes. He's not a fighter no, not at all you can tell he's a scoring.
Speaker 2:But he went out there he's pissed off, yeah. And he said, fuck it, I'm going, yeah, and and everybody like that. That's a hockey. Like knows hockey follows hockey. Played hockey all the teammates, everybody in boston. It was great. I don't care if you're, if you hate the bruins you have. I don't care if you hate the Bruins, you have to love that.
Speaker 1:Even if you hate the Bruins, If you love the Bruins you must be over the moon. You know what I thought it was? Well, it was the first of all. When you have a guy who is not, I mean listen, how many fights has he had in his whole fucking career?
Speaker 2:I don't know if he's had another. I don't know Exactly. I should have checked that. I don't even remember him dropping the gloves another time.
Speaker 1:So this is the thing. But a guy who comes up and is there and stands up at the right time to a pretty tough nut, oh, yeah. And you know what, and pretty tough nut.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:And you know what? And he didn't lose by that badly, no, I mean look, what was it going to be?
Speaker 2:You knew it wasn't going to be a Probert Cox here. You know, lock him, sock him. It wasn't going to be that. Yeah, and that's the reason why fighting needs to stay in the game in respect to just being five minute majors, because you want to have that ability to diffuse a situation, would a situation which will become sticks, cheap shots, hits from behind. Then you've got a guy who doesn't fight. They just want to get their alpha males, mostly in their 20s or early 30s. This is schoolyard stuff when we were kids or did it, and it's the same thing. Only these guys, it's a big business and they're pissed off, they're frustrated and he wanted to go. They're getting their asses handed to them and to Chuck's all over them and he wanted to go.
Speaker 1:I think it was. You know what. It was great. You know what? I will tell you this, though he lost the fight.
Speaker 1:I fucking hate, took one big shot, that's it. Yeah, it was that, but you know what exactly? But at the end of the day, you know, who I hate in that whole scenario is fucking keith kachuk. They just you know, and he was acting like a fucking idiot. You know what? Have some class. I wasn't sure why. Why was he jumping down for, like well, because he wanted to be a part like he was so excited it's like holy fucking buddy right, he's fighting pasternak, like what.
Speaker 2:Do you know what I mean? And maybe you know, like you just dropped ryan reese or something.
Speaker 1:I gotta tell you I was disappointed in him as a human being because I thought that he would have more maturity at this point in his life, because he's our age almost yeah, but at the end of the day I mean that's, that's neither here nor there, that those two ounces that he lost walking those four steps, he made up for it later I'm pretty sure the nachos came. There were free nachos yeah every time a kachuk has a fight he gets a free notch.
Speaker 2:Yeah well keith for sure. I mean I don't know if there's any former players put on more weight. I mean he is a whale, he's a big boy. Oh my god, he's got to be over 300 pounds easily, wow, I mean?
Speaker 1:you know what? I am not going to fall. Look at the commercials with the sons.
Speaker 2:It looks like he ate them or something. I mean he's just massively huge. But yeah, it looks stupid, but I mean it was over in a second and who cares, you know? But and brady's overseas playing.
Speaker 1:He just got named captain oh, did he team usa really?
Speaker 2:they got a good team. So, uh, johnny t's going over for Canada, not really doing cartwheels over that, but I mean, whatever he's getting used to that. Yeah Well, he hasn't gone very often. That's the thing about those guys. They all kind of did it at a time or two. But to get a guy going over, I'll give him credit. You know what I mean? You got to fly. He's just the most disappointing loss. Fly just most disappointing loss, oh you guys, poor bastards, got to fly first class over there.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, you're sleeping in the pod. Oh, yeah, get over to europe.
Speaker 2:Yeah oh, first class hotel yeah, okay, I know, I know, you know what I'm a little tight, maybe we'll get you a fucking back rub.
Speaker 1:Oh for sure, you know like you know what oh, I know I'm not crying a river. And, by the way, hot canada is gonna pay you for this too yeah, we get a couple bucks.
Speaker 2:It's a stipend compared to what they make. But I mean, still, at the end of the day, he's going to represent the country. Yeah, he is, absolutely We'll give him credit. We'll give him credit, but it's not a massive. Like you know, it was on Twitter oh, john Tavares going over to help Team Canada. Well, I mean, we'll see. Yeah, still, I think it'll be nice oh yeah, that sort of thing to have Johnny T there. So our team looks all right, so we'll see. Yeah, that thing's a B tourney anyway.
Speaker 1:Well, listen, if Edmonton lose early, maybe we can send Corey Perry over there for Bernard.
Speaker 2:There you go. Yeah, why not? Certainly be able to pick up for him. I got some ladies for him. Is your mom coming, yeah?
Speaker 1:Okay, which leads me now to that other game that I watched, and I stayed up, I stayed up and I watched the Vancouver-Edmonton game, okay.
Speaker 2:Did you see that? I actually did not.
Speaker 1:Oh see, normally you see all the games and I don't, I know it was that third period.
Speaker 2:I saw most of the first period. That's that third period. I saw the. I saw the first, most of the first period. That's all. That's all that I watched Well the third period.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, come back Vancouver. It was unbelievable. Yeah, it was. It was, like you know, barnstorming Sure you know, what I mean. They and a couple of those plays were just and you know they're set right Like that. You know that. You've practiced. They've practiced this before.
Speaker 2:I'm thinking, but, jesus, you know well, the one that went under Skinner's pads. You don't practice that. That's just a brutal goal, mind you. Uh, whatever however you pronounce it Vancouver's goalie's name he led it. A brutal one as well, let's be honest. Not a great performance by either goaltender. When you allow nine, it's going to be some stinkers and there were but the fact is, edmonton blew a 4-1 lead and we've seen it all over the place. I mean, dallas did a game one against Colorado, almost did it last night. I watched all of that last night and watched them almost blow it again against Colorado, but they hung on. So you watched Edmonton-Vancouver, you saw them go up, you saw Connor McDavid's only NHL game to date.
Speaker 1:Without a point.
Speaker 2:Without a shot on net. Without a shot on net, didn't get a shot on net. It's the only playoff game he's ever played without a shot on net. 24 minutes, one assist minus one. Never got a shot. Really, eh, you'll see a different Connor McDavid tonight.
Speaker 1:I think they'll be a little more resolved.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so too, and I still think they'll win that series, but it should go long. Dallas, colorado should go long. I mean, the one that's going to end. It looks like quickly has probably been the best hockey is Rangers. Carolina, I mean that's just sick hockey. I haven't seen a single bit. Oh, carolina, I mean that's just sick hockey.
Speaker 1:I haven't seen a single bit. Oh sorry, it's as good as I've seen. I shouldn't say that. No, I did see part of the game last night I guess. Okay, yeah, last night. Yeah, another overtime game. I'm going to moan a little bit, because Ottawa traded Mika Zibanejad out of Ottawa and that guy's a fucking franchise player.
Speaker 2:He's a stud, he's a stud you know he got caught up there and just with the uh, with, unfortunately, with a rush to judgment. You know people don't, don't look long term. That's the world we live in today. It's, it's unbelievable. You're, you're hammered for a bad period, let alone, let alone if you have a. You know it used to be well, let's give the guy a couple years. It's like you, hardly no way. You just, you're just ostracized. Now if you're just, if you can't, if you can't turn anything on the table. And he got, he got caught in that and moved on to New York and he is such an integral part that pass he made to wasn't that amazing yeah it was amazing pass and you give Carter credit.
Speaker 1:You know what? What I loved, what? What I loved is that it wasn't just trying to get to him, it was beautiful. He waited right for the right moment. It was class act and it was yeah, total pass, total, great pass.
Speaker 2:And you know they got the lead late last night. Carolina ties it up, you know late. I mean Carolina, they're a beast of a team. It's beast of a team. It's probably the best version in the Donnie Waddell era as general manager. It's the best version of Carolina that I've seen. I've been pretty hard on them because any team that does duck, duck goose after games I just got no time for I don't watch, I don't care. I know it's sold t-shirts and the whole fight with grapes and everything else. But you know I can't wait to flip after games if I'm going to watch that anyway, regardless. I know it's a stupid comment, pretty much, but the fact is they've been soft, they've been soft and they're they're not. They don't play soft anymore. And it's not that they've got a bunch of enforcers on the team, it's team toughness that we used to preach here in ottawa say, oh, we're having a team toughness.
Speaker 2:Well, team toughness is guys like pasternak yeah going out there and saying screw you, I'm not taking it anymore, let's go. Yeah, you need 18 guys like that, yeah, and that's what wins. Yeah. Yeah, you need your required amount of talent, your goaltending specialty teams, but if you have 18 guys with heart like that Carolina has not had that and this year they do. Yeah, but they're up against a team that could very well win the Stanley Cup, like the Rangers look amazing.
Speaker 1:The Rangers are a pretty you know what. I wasn't giving a lot of hope to an Eastern Conference team winning the Cup.
Speaker 2:I'll be honest with you. I think most think most people felt have been. I've pulled a that call team in the west.
Speaker 1:Yeah for sure but, that being said, what I have seen out of new york right now well, no, but not just out of new york. Even florida, like I thought florida was going to be a dud this year, right, which they were initially, and then they got better. Okay, but no, what. You don't think they played that to their potential in the early part of the season.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, I didn't really. I kind of put more stock in. Let's see where things are out of game 70 and 80.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, no, no, no, exactly, but they were there. But my point was is that you know, I've been impressed with the level of play and I'm going to say I have been disappointed in Boston. Okay, and it's my team. I only saw the one game, so tonight will be a different story.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, I was impressed with Florida, as I was last year. Okay, how could you not be?
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1:There we go, and I was impressed with both the Carolina-New York game. Oh, the part that I saw.
Speaker 2:And I that I the part that I saw like and I'll admit like I had dozed off that game two has been the best game of the playoffs and yeah, I missed Edmonton. Vancouver is probably the only game. Like I said, I saw most of the first period, so I've seen parts of every playoff game that's been played so far, parts of, and chunks of good chunks or, if not, all of other games. Game two, carolina New York, is the best game I've seen so far in this playoff year.
Speaker 1:It was pretty awesome.
Speaker 2:And I mean it went to double OT, but the Rangers. So I'm assuming you're setting it up to say, hey, hold on to your hat here, because the East are coming. Yeah, that's exactly where I was going.
Speaker 1:It's funny that you caught on to that yeah you know it's your very empathetic.
Speaker 2:I'm very perceptive that way. You know what? The more I drink, the more perceptive I become. But that's it.
Speaker 1:Now here's something else I want to. You know what I was really disappointed in while I was in Ireland that we lost Winnipeg in the playoff run. Right Winnipeg lost out.
Speaker 2:They got run over Okay.
Speaker 1:But and it led to Not led to, I'm sure it was. You know he had a rough season with his wife's illness, yeah, but Rick Bonas retired Yep, okay. So yet another team looking for a fucking head coach? Yeah, okay, so we got some stuff to talk about as far as the coaching thing. So where do we want to start? You want to start in Toronto right away.
Speaker 1:Well yeah, because as we tape this, no, they've announced it, it's announced. What did they say? It was yesterday. A friend of mine sent me the clip. No, there's no one now.
Speaker 2:The press conference is today.
Speaker 1:That's what I said. And he said no, no, he sent me a news clip no, no, well, they're wrong.
Speaker 2:The press conference is today and it's Keith Pally and it's Tree Levine and it's Shanahan and they're holding their presser today. They announced Keith being let go yesterday morning and he did that great video which has really gone viral.
Speaker 1:Oh, I didn't know.
Speaker 2:Oh, he stood in front of whatever some body of water and just poured his heart out. Actually, it was a really good video, to be honest with you, but he ate all the responsibility in the world for not getting the job done as a coach. They did the player interviews 72 hours ago. Not one player took a shred of responsibility for losing or not holding up or not getting it done. Again and again, and again, like nobody, not one player. And Keith, who got fired, gets gas, steps up there, takes the bullet and it was so you know what?
Speaker 1:so that you know really well, but but that shows that he's a man of integrity.
Speaker 2:I, I, I think so. Oh, absolutely, look, let's be honest, he's the guy. I don't know how anybody. And listen, I, I'm in communication. You probably are too, but I'm in communication with a ton of Leaf fans. I don't talk to them.
Speaker 1:Well, I know you do, I know you are.
Speaker 2:But I mean, everybody thinks, like Shani's had 10, 11 years Like the Shana plan, you had your chance, like you should be going to. Who's going to fire him? Keith Pelley? They brought in Keith Pelley for this very reason. And anybody listen, I know Keith like that much okay. And anybody listen, I know Keith like that much okay. I know him.
Speaker 2:Just, there was years ago there was going to be this sports trivia show on TSN. I had to go down to Toronto. I did an audition for it. It never came to fruition. I met Keith Pelley. He was involved. He's a TV exec going back in the day for years and he got involved in the European PGA Tour. Now he's come over and he's come over and he's he's a ceo now of maple leaf sports entertainment. He's brendan shanahan's boss, right? So when brendan does go and if it's and it doesn't appear like it's going to be now, because they're doing the pressure today, maybe even as we speak and he'll definitely go next year when they lose first round, I mean it's it's. If it's not this year, it'll be, it's got to be next. But the bottom line is, to your point, 19 coaches coaching changes, I think in the NHL in the last 18 months or something. They've never had a run like it, like I mean. Marty St Louis is now the fifth longest serving coach in the NHL, a 32 team league.
Speaker 2:He's the fifth longest he's been there a couple years. I mean the whole thing's just there. It's ridiculous. It's just they're putting them in, Chris and spitting them out.
Speaker 1:They're just spitting them out. Well, yeah, I mean it brings new meaning to the coaches that are hired to be fired.
Speaker 2:Hired to be fired absolutely Well, look at Ottawa. Travis Green, we got to talk about that.
Speaker 1:Well, we got to talk about that, we got to talk about Toronto, I think.
Speaker 2:Here's what I think I had to write something.
Speaker 1:No, I saw that, by the way, it was good. I thought that was good.
Speaker 2:I had to throw a mention out. So I wrote my comments. I said Keefe will be gone. I thought they'd announce it Friday. They announced it yesterday and I said on Friday they'll announce Berube as a coach. That may or may not happen, I don't know, but I think it's Berube. If it's not, I don't know Gerard Gallant. I mean it can't be Bruce Boudreaux, it can't be Jay Woodcroft, you can't nobody. I wrote that Ottawa should have waited. If you're going to hire Travis Green, wait to see what happens. Carolina gets swept Like is Rod Brindamore? Has he run his course? I myself personally don't think so. But look at, they just bounced Sheldon Keefe's ass with maybe the best Toronto lineup who never had the four guys together the vaunted four until game seven.
Speaker 2:It was the only game that they had them and you go oh shit, it's just another excuse for Toronto. Well, you know what? At the end of the day, it's not, it's a fact. And the thing is that this is not an overly strong Boston team. I don't think this team is ready to be taken. Leafs could have beat them. I think Florida is just going to walk them the rest of this series and we'll see. Maybe they will, maybe they won't, but I think so. And I think, Toronto, this was an opportunity. Know, at the end of the day, the Leafs are the Leafs and they've got four guys who are taking up a lot of cash man.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, so there's going to be movement. There's no question. It has to happen, I don't care what it is. If you're a coach, okay, coming into Toronto and your hands are tied with these. You know the four horsemen of the apocalypse, yeah, okay, which, by the way, if Toronto ever makes it to the Stanley Cup finals.
Speaker 2:That's the first sign of the apocalypse, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:This is not right. Okay, but they got to get rid of one of those guys, okay, and so here's what I'm getting. I'm in Ireland, okay, yeah, and I'm getting. I'm in Ireland, okay, yeah, and I'm getting texts from Evan Martyr is the what's going on about martyr? You're like, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he had a tough series. You know what I mean. He goes, oh my God, one goal, three points.
Speaker 1:Well, and Evan's comment was this he goes, dad, he's got to shoot, he's waiting for. He was trying everything to be perfect, because these guys are used to the perfect scenario, because they're given space, they're given time you know what I mean as they go through the regular series. But playoff hockey they weren't, and playoff goals are ugly for the most part. A lot of them get it. Yeah, and I think that's what, hey, jesus.
Speaker 2:How's it going? It's a. It's the ghost of uh well, it's the ghost of leaf's victories coming in.
Speaker 1:This is that. It's the change blowing in. Uh, I had no idea that was open anyways. Uh well, this is the. This is the best part of my thing.
Speaker 2:It's a nice day out, part of why I think it's a gorgeous day out. Yeah.
Speaker 1:We're going to close that door. Apparently, we're not there. It's locked.
Speaker 2:There. Now, if it opens, we know something's really up. That's right, exactly. We better get some more alcohol and just hunker down here and ride out the ghosts.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what?
Speaker 2:There's a lot of Everybody believes in ghosts and fairies, and oh my God, of course they do. It's a magical country for that.
Speaker 1:It's, you know, and some of the things that people say are related to that. It's like really, come on, you know what I mean, because we're North Americanized, right. Ireland's such a unique place in that they truly believe in fairies, right.
Speaker 2:Well, look at the leprechaun no, no but no.
Speaker 1:But they don't believe. You know what the fuck they hate the whole leprechaun comments, but they believe in the spirit world being around them yeah it's really uh, you know anyhow uh that's it so we were talking, we were talking. Yeah, so Toronto Maple Leafs, there's going to be some changes. There has to be some changes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they're tough. These guys all have no moves. What are you going to do?
Speaker 1:Well, listen, they're not going anywhere the way they are. So at the end of the day, they can go to another team and have a shot, and it'll be a team that's going to be a contender. That's where they'll want to go, of course. Right, and and then we'll get somebody else who's just not fitting in on that side, or not? We I mean Toronto will, but who knows what's going to happen on that front? I would like to forget Toronto altogether, okay, but let me just make one more absolutely off the cuff, ridiculous call.
Speaker 2:That I think could happen. Because here's the thing, chris If a GM comes to you and you've got a no move and they say chris, uh, you know, when they sit down how are they going to say it? We'd like you to consider waving. Waving your no move, I mean right away. You know they don't want you. So even though you call the shot, you call the shot, you can stay, but they're just telling you right now. You know what we? You're not part in our minds. We'd like to move your ass out of here and I think that conversation is going to be had with Mitch Marner and I think he might, over the course in the next three, four, five, six weeks, may consider it and if he agrees, he'll give his list and I think that he's going to go to Pittsburgh. He's going to go to the Pittsburgh Penguins and play with Sid in Sid Swan's song.
Speaker 2:As Sid hangs around, hopefully playing like he did this year, which was one of his best years in the last 10 at 36 years of age, because of the four nations in February and because of the Olympics in 2026, sid wants to play with McDavid and he's jacked up. He's going to be in fantastic shape again next year. Mitchie would probably, if he gave a short list playing with Sid, I think, could be on it. He needs to go. You got Tavares at one more year at 11. No one's going to touch him with a 10-foot pole. You want to keep Austin? He's scoring 70. You want to keep Willie? Willie is the guy. Oh, that's the other thing, chris. You must have seen it on the bench. That was the biggest thing when the three of them came off in the series against Boston, when Marner threw his gloves and Nylander was calling him a pussy and saying, hey, quit crying, it's not junior hockey. And it was all really on camera, matthews. The three of them are right there. Marner turns around, throws a glove one at a time.
Speaker 2:you gotta find the clip oh, I have to see it's class and who's sitting back giving it to him, willie. So I'll tell you what man.
Speaker 2:I had my doubts about Willie going back a few years, like when, when the Habs came back and waxed them like an absolutely like, smoked the Leafs like, crushed them, destroyed them, worst series loss ever in Leaf history. The guy who played the best in the playoffs that year for Toronto in those seven games, which is, you know, normally they don't make it that many but they did get seven and it was Willie, he was their best and I have gotten to really find an affinity for that guy, austin's Austin, and you know what I mean. What the hell? Undisclosed illness, like what the hell?
Speaker 1:Wow so.
Speaker 2:Obviously something. But yeah, anyways, I digress. You know what?
Speaker 1:And I will say this he came back in game seven right to play because it was the last shot.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And they had him on the third line Well, because he wasn't well.
Speaker 2:Because he was hurt. I know that he was hurt. He wasn't feeling well, whatever it was, so I give him credit. He came back and played through something.
Speaker 1:Exactly Now. No one's going to. I mean I hate to say this and I'm not going to say it the way he played in game two okay, that series yeah, he didn't have to play another game for the rest of the fucking playoffs in my. In my opinion, he earned my respect that day problem is crystal. The best players continue that and he didn't well, of course he went out of the lineup so here again yeah, you're right, so you know, so know you can't it's like saying you know, fuck, I saw Bobby Orr play in Chicago.
Speaker 1:He didn't look that fucking good, right? Well, he was playing on crutches. You know I mean you can't judge somebody. He still was good, I know, I know that. But point is is that you can't judge somebody when they're playing injured? I think we're going to find out that there's something. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:I don't know. Nothing's come out about that, so I don't know if we'll ever definitively hear. There'll be 9 000 rumors, but at least in willie's case we heard it was migraines, right, you know. So it was something definitive, albeit really strange like does he?
Speaker 1:did he normally suffer from migraines?
Speaker 2:not to my knowledge. I mean uh, apparently they did concussion testing. You don't want to screw around with the head.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no.
Speaker 2:The guy's claiming he can't. You know, he's got migraine symptoms. I don't know if he has a history of them or not. I've never suffered from them. But people who have you must know people. I know people and they can really do a number on you, right. If you suffer from migraines.
Speaker 1:When I was younger, I had migraines.
Speaker 2:Oh, you did eh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I kind of grew out of it.
Speaker 2:But when I was like you know, well, you got to remember he's a young man. Well, that's true, yeah. You know, yeah, yeah, I mean, we're a little bit older.
Speaker 1:I had no, but I remember, like you throw up, Like I remember I was living on my own, I was mom and dad.
Speaker 2:I said no, I I can't even like I.
Speaker 1:I'm, you know, I'm debilitated. I need, I need, I want my mommy. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:So my parents, come dad, said money because I gotta make the bar yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:So my dad comes over and my mom said, well, okay, I'm gonna try, and you know she was doing what she had to put the cloth on me, she did all that stuff. And, uh, my dad goes into the fridge. Jesus christ you don't have any food. All you have is beer in here. There's your fucking problem. You're hungover, he's hungover, barb Jesus, the kid's hungover Like there's not. We're coming to fix a hangover. It's like like.
Speaker 1:I hadn't been drinking or anything like that. You know what I mean, but I just remember that, as my you know, my dad's sympathy was Jesus Christ. It's a hangover. Get over it, oh boy, okay, ottawa Senators have a new coach in Travis Green. Yeah, okay, so rumor has it he runs a tough camp. Yeah, okay, yeah. So what do you think of that? Whatever, is that okay?
Speaker 2:As opposed to all the other coaches who don't run a tough camp.
Speaker 1:I don't know this, I don't know. You know what?
Speaker 2:it reminded me of. It reminded me of the start of the season last year when a bunch of the Ottawa media were freaking out because so many of the Senators were in town early. They're all here early. Everybody's so excited, everybody can't wait to get the season going. Like players aren't showing up early on the other teams, but it's just. It was such a big deal made out of it. And that's just the first thing I thought of when I heard about Travis Green notorious, I mean his lengthy coaching career notorious notorious for running, uh and, and so much success.
Speaker 2:you know, oh he, he just runs a killer training camp.
Speaker 2:I mean I kind of had to laugh, but I mean, look, it was an underwhelming underwhelming hire, let's be honest, it's not the sexy hire that a lot of people were hoping for, and that may very well have been because those guys said we don't want to come here, or Ottawa didn't want to pay the money that Berube is probably going to command as a Stanley Cup winning coach right from just five years ago. So you know, maybe, maybe he can call a bigger shot than Travis Green certainly can, who just literally two to three weeks ago said I really hope I can stay in New Jersey, and now all of a sudden he's a head coach of Ottawa, like it's just a whole thing and now we've got to just shovel up. You know everything that's being said about him.
Speaker 1:My bigger concern, though, is not him only, it's the rest of the staff, Because that makes a huge difference, right? So we were talking when we had our interview with Larry Robinson, yeah, and he was talking about with Scotty Bowman, you know when. When he moved to a team, he said, Scott, we're going to bring you here, but we don't want you running the practices, we want you. You remember that comment? Uh, vaguely, he had. He had they, he brought in his an assistant who, who ran the practices and do it, did a few things.
Speaker 2:That was Scotty's MO anyway. That's right yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, and that was, and and so. But my point is is that I think one of the issues that we have in Ottawa is, I mean, we know it's the defensive ability that we have, okay, yeah and that. But so who's going to be responsible with that? Ultimately, the head coach sets plays, he calls the bench, he sets strategy with the help of, and the tactics of, his offensive and his defensive coordinators, right, so who are those guys going to be? Because, to me, those are the guys. If they work well as a triangle, okay, yeah, okay, the holy triangle. Okay, you, me and you, okay, yeah, okay, the holy triangle. Okay, you, me and you know. Yeah, if they work together, then you can have a winning coaching staff right, yeah, but the buck's got to stop with somebody.
Speaker 2:I mean, you're not telling me the success of the center is going to be based on who their assistants are.
Speaker 1:Well, I think a significant amount of the coaching success will be they've got talent on the teams. It's a matter of coaching these kids to play the way they need to play, and I think we've seen some moments of that throughout. Whether it was Jacques Martin when he was coaching or anyone before, I don't even know.
Speaker 2:Well, they've had a bunch of coaches in here. It's like their first assignment other than Craig Hartsburg had a cup of coffee elsewhere, everybody else that came in here it was their first coaching gig after Brian Murray. The coaching carousel, I mean it was just literally a revolving door and everybody's first shot. I don't think anybody's gone on to be head coach anywhere else since they left Ottawa. So what does that tell you? And at least in Travis Green? I mean he had Vancouver, unsuccessful, and he had New Jersey where his assistant came in interim. When they gassed Lindy and he says I want to stay, they said yeah, they give Ottawa permission to talk to him. Ok, I'll go to Ottawa, so he comes here.
Speaker 2:I don't know To me about the Ottawa coaching. It means nothing. If the guy can get this team to 500 and either in at or near a playoff spot by Christmas time, they should throw him a parade, because that's where they haven't been for seven years. So, whoever it may be, if Travis Green can come in here and he runs a training camp and a couple guys puke and there's video and you know and you see a guy, whatever, oh, wow, look at him, he's really getting the guys ready and everybody's here early and all the Sens media can go look at us, look at us. Oh, everybody's here, everybody's excited. We're ready not to miss the playoffs eight years in a row and this becomes the next big thing. Okay, good.
Speaker 1:What else are you going to say? Well? So here's my thought. Okay, I think they set this whole thing up and a lot of it is hype, right, and I think it's a lot of it is Well, you've got to start, you've got to promote. Yeah, and I'll call it propaganda, but I think that the players are the ones they're trying to sell to. Right now. The fans forget the fans, the players. They're trying to say listen, we want you in the best shape of your life coming into camp.
Speaker 2:Like as if you're not though.
Speaker 1:No, I know.
Speaker 2:It's so funny to hear that in the 2020s or even the 2010s, or even the 2000s, it's probably been literally 40 years since guys came to camp to get in shape.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, like Dave Semenko and those guys. You know the famous line from Glenn Sather did you follow my, my regime for the summer? He said, ah, slats, you know I tried that running stuff, but it just the wind kept blowing my cigarette out. You know, I mean, that's 40 years ago and and that was sort of the end of the era, yeah, when guys didn't train like machines the gary roberts, you know, off ice training regime that all these guys go through now and you're telling me you're going to come to shape and and and, because travis green has this thing, you got to skate the length of the ice back and forth in 40 seconds, like four times. Four times in 40 seconds is apparently the benchmark. That's one of the things I heard anyway, and I'm sure it's probably incredibly taxing, no doubt, I mean, we'd probably have a tough time doing it right now, you and me.
Speaker 1:Even just there and back, forget about four times. Can we go?
Speaker 2:down, stopping.
Speaker 1:We're going to find out tonight for me, yeah, because you're playing tonight. I'm playing tonight in the ottawa asian heritage uh, hockey tournament, like what. I'm a diversity hire okay, I'm a diversity.
Speaker 1:I see, you know I see, and uh, and well, I mean, I have a lot of friends who happen to be asian, yeah, and they say, well, you know, can you play? And I said, well, you know, they're allowed to imports. Okay, so I'm an import, yeah, on this team, um, but I lived and worked in japan, so I have you got that going for you, going for me, yeah I, I and, as far as I'm concerned, I'm asian. And who the fuck, fuck, is there going to tell me that I'm not? Nobody, really, exactly.
Speaker 2:Nobody man.
Speaker 1:But I am an import on this team, but this is my first real skate since being sick, yep, since you were so. I was unavailable for the playoffs. Yeah, as they say, I'm no better than fucking Matthews when it comes to that, like you know.
Speaker 2:Well, I think your illness was a little bit more what you've gone through in the last since November anyway, a lot more significant than what Austin's gone through. But obviously Austin went through something couldn't play Kneel-in-the-rear migraines, couldn't play. It is bad luck for sure for Toronto. Think of that year against Montreal. Corey Perry took Johnny T out First shift almost of the game. They've had some bad luck that way. At the end of the day, the teams you have to overcome, you have to overcome Even everybody else in the lineup, blowing that Montreal losing to Columbus some of their other losses, the lead against Boston in 2013 will always be historic.
Speaker 1:That'll be the greatest, yeah, the greatest 10-22 to go.
Speaker 2:You're up 4-1. You blow it. That's an NHL record for a playoff game. You know their losses are creative.
Speaker 1:Well, it was not too far off with the Vancouver game, but that was not a Game 7, though no, it wasn't a game seven, but it was the same score.
Speaker 2:It just wasn't as late. But you're right, it's obviously a lot of similarities and we'll see. I do think Edmonton are the better team, but I mean Vancouver are going to be a real tough out. That series should be really entertaining.
Speaker 1:They have some. They've got some players. I've got to tell you, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And rejuvenated. You got Rick Tockett's going to win the Jack Adams hands down. You're getting the goaltending, even though they've had to use a revolving door. Having said that, I don't think either goalie would be happy with their efforts there the other night, but they're non-committal, eh. By the way, we're taping this so everyone will buy you.
Speaker 1:We don't know who's playing in it.
Speaker 2:No, they have not committed to who's going in. But you know, the bottom line is they got through that opening round against Nashville using three goaltenders. So that's pretty good stuff. I mean, it's only happened like three times before in NHL history or something. It's pretty rare, yeah, pretty rare. So you know that you've gotten the win. There's been lots of times Like Winnipeg Jets used four goaltenders in one playoff year but they lost the series. So you know, I mean, keep putting them in, you keep losing. Then it's not really so much of a story in that, other than you used a number of different goalies, yeah, but that's the NHL record, by the way, for most ever used in one series, one playoff year. But here we are. We'll see what happens. The playoffs have been great. Travis Green, underwhelming hire um, it means nothing to me, uh, absolutely nothing. Let's show me october, november, december, and then you know, really, I mean I just either the guys didn't want to come or ottawa didn't want to pay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one of two ways I don't think it's a money thing I don't think so, either with angela or I don't think it's a money thing. So I think think Berube, maybe Turkey, maybe Gallant, maybe whomever else they may have talked to, didn't want to come.
Speaker 1:And you know what? That is not a good thing.
Speaker 2:I've got to keep an eye on the time.
Speaker 1:You're like George Burns with the cigar. You know how long you've been into it.
Speaker 2:I know because I'm damn near out of my point. You know what that means, folks, if I'm not, drinking.
Speaker 1:I'm not happy, all right, well, so what do we have to round up this episode for Like do we have anything to talk about.
Speaker 2:Anything beyond. Let's see, we covered off Ireland. I wanted to talk to you about that. Covered off the playoffs We've got? No, I don't think so. I mean all the trophy nominees. We can save that for later on.
Speaker 1:We'll get there in June. You know what?
Speaker 2:We're going to be back.
Speaker 1:We're going to get a sponsor to send us to the awards. Yeah, yeah, we're going to talk to them we don't know who that's going to be and if you're one of the seven people watching this and happened to be well healed, yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, floated some money so Chris and I can go on the road again. We want to go to.
Speaker 1:Vegas to do the uh Florida Thanks to.
Speaker 2:Gib Patterson's collection of golf courses. Gib came through and we got to Florida, so I'm going to go back and see Mr Patterson. Maybe he'll jump in again.
Speaker 1:Well, we got a whole slew of interviews that we have set up yeah, starting with one and we're going to actually, well, I I don't know if you're going to be there, but I'm going to start this summer doing some interviews of people. I'm ready to go anytime, buddy, I'm ready to go anytime.
Speaker 2:I can tell you this I did a gig at the Sensplex and geez, what's the name of that bar up there now. God, they do such a, they've done such a good job on it. But Brian Kilray was there. It was the Bill.
Speaker 1:Kitchen Memorial. I saw, yeah, you saw the picture of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so I was talking to Killer about the real start to the Players Union, because most people just don't know that Ted Lindsay didn't start it. He, he made the attempt. Unfortunately it was unsuccessful. That's right. But the guy who really did start the players' union was Brian Kilray and when we do interview him I'll get him to expand on that. But I did get him talking about it for a few minutes. I just took my phone. I said Kilray, can I tape this?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And he said sure, and I pushed play and record and I got gold. Man, I got gold. So that's historic what happened in 1966 in Springfield.
Speaker 1:And when we do talk to him, we'll get him to talk about that. He was in Springfield in 66. Yeah, okay, with a famous ex-Boston Bruin as the general manager there and coach, wasn't he? Yeah, owner.
Speaker 2:Owner yeah, eddie Shore. I mean, that whole thing developed into a war between springfield and eddie shore. Right, who, who, uh?
Speaker 2:and he lost the team, didn't? He killer had alan eaglestone come down and alan eaglestone came in and they ratified. The springfield team has, uh, unionized. That was first time ever in nhl history. It was not Alan Eagleson, it was not Lauren Chabot, it was not Gus Mortensen, it was not Doug Harvey, it was nobody else. And I had no problem with then honoring Ted, because Ted, ted, what Ted Lindsay did in the late fifties was historic in that he, he, he drew a line in the sand Right.
Speaker 1:He basically said fuck you guys basically said fuck you guys, yeah, but they they said yeah, you know what Ted fuck you.
Speaker 2:We're trading you to Chicago. What do?
Speaker 1:you think of that yeah?
Speaker 2:You know every one of those guys ended up getting traded. Yeah, you know, morrison got traded, doug Harvey got traded, ted Lindsey got traded. They all got traded because they were the front for the NHL who went and tried to start that union. So, with them renaming the Lester Pearson Award the Ted Lindsay Award, I just wish they'd do the same thing with the Hart Trophy, the Gordie Howe Memorial, as we've discussed.
Speaker 1:That's another story, another time.
Speaker 2:However, I don't think we have much else to say right now. Chris, we can get out of Dodge because we're going to do another show in a few years, we are and I've got the car for a drive. Okay, and tell them what car you got.
Speaker 1:I'm cruising in my 1959 Oldsmobile 98 convertible.
Speaker 2:Well, I can tell you, Dickinson Day Parade I will be in you want me to be in the Dickinson Day Parade. I really think you should go, and you should be either right in front of us or right behind us?
Speaker 1:What are you in it for? What are you in it for?
Speaker 2:I am Gordie Paul and I are going to be in a 1958 Pontiac.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And owned by Wendy Karkner.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's the lady who's a Boston fan on the thing.
Speaker 2:Okay, yes, and my friend Wendy, and she owns the car, okay, and she has agreed to lend it to us To go on the parade. Yes, that's why I strongly recommend, suggest and hope that you would consider doing so with your beautiful car.
Speaker 1:So when's the parade? Friday May 31st May, 31st May 31st. Yeah, okay, I may. You may be out of town. I may be out of town. Okay, but I'm not. That's not I. Literally we're discussing it all depends, because I got to go and visit my kids. So that might be right then. Okay, fair enough, but if I'm here, let me know what I got to do. Yeah, do I just show up?
Speaker 2:Well, we said, yeah, you show up, everyone lines up at the Manatee Arena. Yeah, and we would arrange it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So here's what I do. You would either go right in front of us, right behind us, okay. And we get right into the center of the tick yeah. Right across from the mill and we park, someone will hustle us out a couple pints okay.
Speaker 1:Well, that's you know what. Only for the passengers.
Speaker 2:Yes, of course it's illegal to drink and drive ever do that probably illegal to be in the car and drink, isn't it, or is that legal?
Speaker 1:I think it's a. I think, if it's a parade, it's not really yeah, I think that's okay.
Speaker 2:It's got to be all right.
Speaker 1:You know what? I'm not really quite sure. It's time to stand up, folks. It's time to say I'm not saying that you should be drinking in the parade, but you know what We've got to stop, like drinking the parade. But yeah, okay. But Liam says drinking the parade. Okay, this has been Offside with Haas McGuire. I'm Haas.
