Offside with Hawes and Maguire
Offside: with Hawes and Maguire is not your typical hockey show. This weekly
45-60 minute show is a potent combination of humour and genuine hockey insights that pushes the envelope.
- Liam is renowned for his photographic memory, lively storytelling, vast hockey knowledge and sometimes over-the-top passion for the game of hockey.
- Chris is known for his unrehearsed humour, contagious laughter and uncanny ability to make even the most serious debates end in boisterous guffaws.
Between the two, there is an infectious enthusiasm and professional chemistry that is evident from the outset. It can only be described as lightning in a bottle.
Offside with Hawes and Maguire
Extended Golf Season and Hockey Havoc
What if the changing November weather turned your golf plans upside down? Join us as we unfold the amusing chaos of managing golf courses during an unusually warm fall, sharing quirky stories and unexpected challenges that clubs face. As we transition from greens to ice, we'll take you through the twists of our ongoing hockey pool, with Adel leading the pack and Chuck hot on his heels. The promise of a trip to Prince Edward Island has everyone buzzing, and we can't help but reminisce about last year's rollercoaster race to the top.
From the intense rivalry in our hockey pool to the electrifying action on the NHL ice, this episode covers it all. Catch our lively debate on the latest skirmishes and player comebacks, including the tales of Alexander Ovechkin's quest to break Gretzky's goal scoring record, and Connor McDavid's recent injury concerns. We sprinkle in a generous dose of humor as we explore the historical toughness of teams like the Boston Bruins and Montreal Canadiens, contrasting past legendary figures with today's standout players like Cole Caulfield and Nick Suzuki.
Embark on a nostalgic journey with us as we recount legendary NHL moments, and pay homage to hockey greats like Bobby Hull and Jacques Plante. We share personal tavern tales and a touch of hockey trivia, keeping the spirit of camaraderie alive. Wrap up with insights on the latest in team dynamics and player styles, from the Toronto Maple Leafs' challenges to the Ottawa Senators' promising start. Whether it's through laughter, friendly competition, or reverence for the legends, this episode offers a unique lens on the ever-evolving world of hockey.
it's offside with haas and mcguire will you ever drink again? No, I've been drinking. Oh, I just haven't been opening. Ah, it's offside with haas and mcguire. I'm haas I'm McGuire. Hey, welcome. This is November the first. It's the first month of really the first full month of what we would call the end of spring. What?
Speaker 2:the fuck Right, am I?
Speaker 1:wrong, Well, weather-wise you're not.
Speaker 2:I mean it was 25 yesterday. It's been gorgeous, wonderful weather.
Speaker 1:Even today it was 25 yesterday it's been gorgeous, yeah, wonderful weather Even today.
Speaker 2:It wasn't even that bad really. I golfed yesterday. I'm sure you did I mean?
Speaker 1:Redoview was packed, was it really? Yeah, when did you guys close?
Speaker 2:Well, we were supposed to close yesterday, right, but they've extended through the weekend and this will be it, because, yeah, the rest of the week supposed to be great, though really well.
Speaker 1:They got sort of coerced, I think by sheer volume of members who said yeah, hey, come on.
Speaker 2:Like the traditional closing, october 31st isn't working anymore, right, probably not getting any snow till december, so let's give us another week at least. So they've gone four days but.
Speaker 1:But you got to also give them time to do the, the regular end of year maintenance.
Speaker 2:The big thing is our greens need to be tarped and you can't. The last thing you can afford to have happen is a snap storm, yeah, and have the snow come down that potentially may not go, or, even worse, ice.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And you haven't got them tarped.
Speaker 1:And you know the big difference in the, the real view. For example, yeah to where I golf more often. Yeah, which is uh emerald links? Is uh emerald links? Um, doesn't really give a shit, they just want more money. So they're going to be open as long as they can be okay oh well, right, you know and no, I but. But I mean, you guys are like you know, you, you're, I guess, the management or the executive of the club.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's thinking ahead. They're thinking about the future. They're thinking about how do we maintain this properly, all that stuff. The good thing is is that Gibb doesn't give a shit about all that. Right, it's like how much money am I going to make today? Can I make more money today? Keeps things simple, absolutely. You know what.
Speaker 2:Can I give some chili?
Speaker 1:We got a lot of chili in the back. Let's make it a special again. Yeah, so, and I don't know if you saw, but everybody is getting employee pricing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everywhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, he's saying he doesn't give any discounts to his employees.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But we do hope to have Give Back next year as a sponsor. We do hope to have him Absolutely. We missed him for this season, but he did help us out last year, he absolutely did we got to Florida with that and we did those six fantastic interviews and hopefully we'll have Gibb Patterson group of golf courses back next year.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, or another group of golf courses If you're watching this and from a group of golf or even one golf course, we are happy to be a part of that. As a matter of fact, we love our sponsors the few that we have. It really helps us out. Trust us, we're doing this. Someone explained to me what it is we're doing. They said are you making any money? And I said fuck no.
Speaker 1:And they go oh, oh, so it's a passion oh, so, so this is uh, this is a passion project, so everybody understands clear one more year, anyway, for one more year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jesus christ, holy lifting. Buddy, are you sure you haven't been?
Speaker 1:drinking. I know this is the thing, okay, so we're going to start off. We started talking about sponsors.
Speaker 2:Get a 24 and a half in that thing probably.
Speaker 1:I know Actually I made that, did you? Yeah, it's an old suitcase that I made. You can't, people can't see it.
Speaker 2:Have you been to all those countries?
Speaker 1:I've been everywhere on this. I've been everywhere man, exactly, I'm Hank Stoll. Everybody goes, oh Johnny. Cash I go McLean and McLean. Well, yeah, we'll just keep this a PG-rated version. Really Are you kidding me right now Am I fucking kidding you. Okay, yeah, anyway, you know the story. I think I've told you this. I opened for McLean and McLean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you did tell me that one time.
Speaker 1:Very nice guys, phenomenal, I think they both passed or won.
Speaker 2:for sure, you know what One's gone.
Speaker 1:for sure, to be honest with you, I lost touch with them after that night. It was like you know they were very nice to me. It was like, yeah, whatever, see you later. Bye. He was like yeah whatever, see you later.
Speaker 2:Bye, see you, guys. And.
Speaker 1:I called them. You know I technically was stalking, but no, they were quite good, but they were at the sort of in the twilight of their popularity at that time. Okay, yeah, you know yeah, and I was just on the rise. Yeah, of course we kind of met in the middle, we met at the crossroads. Yeah, of course we kind of met in the middle, we met at the crossroads.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Right with fuck around and find out. That's right, Exactly, Okay getting back yeah.
Speaker 1:Speaking of sponsors. We have a sponsor for our hockey pool.
Speaker 2:Yes, we do.
Speaker 1:Hosey and Brown Automotive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, back again, god love them.
Speaker 1:You know what we need, though we need to have like they don't really have a slogan. There's no like jingle for Hosey and Brown. Oh boy, I'm going to have to work on a.
Speaker 2:Hosey and Brown jingle. He'd run that one by Rod. He'd come up with a few. He phoned me tonight, actually, did he In fact? Yeah, you usually get a call from him towards the end of most weeks, as he's making his rounds, right?
Speaker 1:Seeing some clients and stuff, as as he calls it, on his way home. And yeah, you know we well, we go way back, eh, Rodney? Yeah, no, you've been in school together.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we met in grade nine 51 years ago, so long, long, long time friend and thrilled to have him back on and sponsoring, and I guess it's going to make the trip out east largely possible. I think this is making the well. It's not largely possible.
Speaker 1:It's making it possible period. So, to that end, let's talk about the hockey pool. Yeah, which is off gangbusters the first full month of the hockey pool is now complete.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, yeah. And there are some surprises yeah, some things that aren't a surprise, okay, right, so I'm going to start by saying that the leader in the hockey pool yeah, okay, yeah, the leader in the hockey pool is a new player to the hockey pool. Yeah, okay, and that is the Goon Squad. The Goon Squad, okay, and so they're leading, and apparently it's not Bubba, is it? No, okay, no, no, no, no. I'm going to tell you who it is. It's Adil no way, yeah, what. Yeah, it's Adil from. No way, yeah, what. Yeah, it's Adel from from came to Ireland with us.
Speaker 2:No way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no word of a lie. Holy cow Adel is leading.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's been leading like out of the gate Right.
Speaker 1:However, he is followed very closely behind. Yeah, by Chuck, by Chuck. Chuck's in the running again, chuck, he's there. He missed out in the last, basically the last week or two weeks last year for Ireland. Yeah, he was so close, he had a couple of late season injuries, yeah, okay, and took his guys out and Dave Zivkovic came up, came up, came up and boom, boom you know, went from there, but Chuck was right there the whole time Leading most of the way.
Speaker 2:Oh, he mentioned his name quite a bit oh absolutely, because he had that wedding that was going to possibly conflict. Yeah, his son's wedding.
Speaker 1:Which you know, but now this year no wedding.
Speaker 2:No wedding.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately we're not going to Ireland. I mean I'm going to Ireland, Okay, and then scroll down. There's a bunch of different people that I kind of know. Don't know, I can't remember who's who, but to be honest with you.
Speaker 1:They're all pretty close in numbers, to be honest with you, until we get down to, and rounding out, the top 10. Okay, we have one, uh, one team I don't even know who this is, though it's the rough riders yeah, they're a half a point ahead of uh, my son-in-law, okay, and myself, okay, we went together on a team, okay, okay, yeah and uh. And then below that, at at number 12, is this fella Wade. He's almost 20 points behind us. This guy, henderson, scores for Canada.
Speaker 2:Hey, that's me. You know, Did you know that was me? Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1:You're in Cornwallier Place. Okay, number 12. Yeah, and then Dave Zivkovic is right behind you in the ominous number 13 spot okay, okay, yeah, so he's coming up. So I mean we've we've kind of covered that whole thing, but some big surprises, uh in that addle like right out of the gate for you buddy in okay, he's got an algorithm going like he was talking about how he was doing yeah while we were there and he was gonna yeah, I don't know if he used ai or not or something, but you know what it just goes to show you could approach it scientifically yeah, right, and and uh.
Speaker 2:So that's probably the better way to do it, as apparently the number apparently it is right now and I'll tell you yeah, I mean that maintains right through. Can you imagine we'll all be doing that?
Speaker 1:so so here's the plan, the winner, and this is a trip for two to pei. Okay, because no one wants to go to pei alone. Yeah right, yeah, they feel kind of, you know, yeah and then we're not.
Speaker 2:I mean, I could, but yeah, no, I know.
Speaker 1:But yeah, you know, you seem to have an ability to make friends anywhere there's, that's a license for status. Okay, but just trying to fit in you, well, I know so. But because we're not doing a big trip to PDI, right, right, it's just going to be the winners and I'm trying to find a way for you and I to go along, right, okay, at the same time, so that we can actually give them a good time Sure, right, you know time, so that we can actually, you know, give them a good time. Sure, right?
Speaker 1:um you know you can, you can introduce them in bars and stuff. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah and uh, you're, you're no stranger to pei no, you know, that's the thing it's.
Speaker 2:It's uh like the province I've been to. Well, I mean obviously quebec, but I mean I've been there a ton. Yeah, I've been there a ton, worked there a ton, so it's awesome yeah, so so we're gonna see.
Speaker 1:I't promise that, but at least the two people are going to be going on their own. But the goal is, if we can manage it and we will go as well, try to show them a good time. If not, we'll hire a hooker and they'll, and that'll do that. You know, cause? It's actually a Charlottetown hooker is actually cheaper than an air flight. Yeah, I believe it. And you know what? She won't lose your bag, unlike Air Canada.
Speaker 2:No, no, exactly yeah.
Speaker 1:I can't say that she won't be late the next month, but no, you know.
Speaker 2:Anyhow, you know what let's talk about these hookers.
Speaker 1:I don't know why you keep bringing this up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just sort of bounced into the conversation.
Speaker 1:Okay, so there's a lot of stuff that went on in the last little we had. We had a thing last week. We had a show that was kind of our really our first show.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, but things have happened. We talked about the Truva hit and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Yep. And now you so you Baron's back, by the way came back and played. You know, yeah, much ado about nothing. Really had his head down, got clocked.
Speaker 1:Well, you know this is speaking of much ado about nothing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, uh, the wilson anderson fight yeah yeah, so I want to hear what you have to say about that from a montreal fan, where the season has been less than scintillating, even though they're not expected to make the playoffs. Absolutely, yeah, that's one of danny's Danny Gallivan. Candidating drive and a puck cut and a paraphernalia Scintillating. Yeah, and definitely Montreal's play has not been very good and last night, whenever this airs, they played Washington and they were tied three all after 40 but the ice was totally tilted and, uh, three goals.
Speaker 1:Tom Wilson's out there running around doing Tom Wilson things so you know it's, it's, but I didn't think that the hit was that it was. It was a finishing a check. No, it's bullshit that's total bullshit please, come on, don't go there just like go to the park. I mean, it was you know what you can say.
Speaker 2:It was a little late it was late, it was high, it was gratuitous on who it was on to of course it was well.
Speaker 1:I don't think he gave a shit who it was well I.
Speaker 2:I personally think he did really. Yeah, I do. I. I think, hey, here's a, here's a new hot shot in the league and he's getting lots of ink out of montreal. Take a run at him. Uh, they got nobody on the ice, they didn't draft Jack Eye, so I'm good to go. And it turns out he wasn't good to go. I mean, montreal won very little last night. But Anderson, who should fight more and I've said that repeatedly, privately, publicly when I did talk to him, he was in PEI two years ago. He came to that weekly gig that I worked there.
Speaker 1:He's a nephew of Pete Mahalich. Oh, pete and Frank Mahalich are his uncles.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, so he's got some uh pedigree. He's got some pedigree in the in the family. Is he also from Timmins? No, oh, no, no. So I guess I think I'm trying to remember the connection.
Speaker 1:I think his mom is a Mahalich, actually okay, well, that would make sense, so, but but uh, because his if his dad was my if I understand that, but I I know sometimes he gets you married all right yeah
Speaker 2:yeah, so I. But I I think it's actually a direct connection to his mother, if I'm not mistaken, and no, I think he grew up in the toronto area. He's super nice guy, but he's a big man, he's in great shape and he's actually, by his own standard this that he's produced on montreal, or lack of production on montreal last couple of years, like he didn't score a goal last year until forever and he's got two already. And where he's been used, and rather proficiently again up until the last two games, has been on the penalty kill. He's been pretty effective and the last night he jumped in.
Speaker 2:I mean, listen, I don't have much to say about the Habs. All I want to say is that Josh Anderson kicked the shit out of Tom Wilson. It isn't like it was a game changer, it wasn't a bloodbath, but he dropped him and it was significant for a couple reasons. One, he answered the bell right away, which hasn't been done very often in the past on Montreal, which is why Jack Guy probably has made the team the last couple years, although he's regressed a little bit, so he's having a hard time making a lineup although he can shoot, apparently, justin baron, one guy at a time as well.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, I mean, did you see that? Yeah, yeah, that was like you know, anyhow, sorry, yeah, well, that's, you know, harvard's good to go, man, he, he can take on the world, there's no doubt about it. The guy is a fan favorite and he should be. So this is overall. He does you know we're getting in splitting hairs here on the has, who are not off to a good start. But I mentioned it to it as a topic because we're going to rip through what we always should do when we do the show Montreal, ottawa, toronto should always get a comment from us on them and in Montreal's case, after a very nice weekend where they won two games to get back to 500, they got pasted on home ice by Seattle and then went into Washington and were good measure for sort of for a 3-3 tie after two periods, largely because Suzuki and Cole Caulfield are playing lights out. So they're both having exceptional starts of the season, especially Caulfield.
Speaker 2:It's got 10 goals. I mean, come on, it's ridiculous Tied for the goal scoring league. So he's playing great. Josh Anderson beat the shit out of Wilson, okay, great. I mean, we just don't have a lot of boxes we can check off here in Montreal right now.
Speaker 2:So you're excited about that. I'm excited about the fact that Josh won a fight against a real tough guy and maybe it will inspire him, as many of us have wished and said and hoped, that he'll do it more often. You don't have to be a goon, but you got to go out there. What I told Josh two years ago in PEI was I said there was an old adage from 1960s hockey I know your uncles are Frank and Pete Mahavlish. They played then and obviously into the 70s and the old adage was if the game's gone completely south and you've done, fuck all, find a way to get on the game sheet, Okay.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't have to spell it out, right? So get on the sheet and go out and you know who lived by that, a man, who you, a player that you would have absolutely and probably still love to no end in your life, when he played for your Boston Bruins back in the day, and that was Terry O'Reilly. Terry O'Reilly who anybody if whether you're a Bruin fan or not had to have the utmost respect and admiration for as a player, and he lived by that mantra.
Speaker 1:Well, no doubt, but you know what I'm going to say, though, and maybe this is just my bias towards the Boston Bruins or Terry O'Reilly.
Speaker 2:No, that's fine, I love that.
Speaker 1:I think Terry O'Reilly had a. There is a code that existed in those guys and he was not just out there to goon.
Speaker 2:He wasn't going to take the gratuitous shot that Tom Wilson took last night. Terry O'Reilly would not have made that hit.
Speaker 1:No, you're probably right. I know I'm right, but at the same time you know what I don't, so I disagree. I don't think he was meant on purpose. I think he would have finished that. Check on whoever that was.
Speaker 2:I disagree strongly.
Speaker 1:Totally, totally disagree with you there and you're entitled to your.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. We'll agree to disagree on that.
Speaker 1:But, that being said, no, you're probably right that it would happen. And listen, I mean, you could go through the list of Bruins who would count up in that era. Yeah, okay, and you know, and that that's what very tough team, but that's what gelled that team, but also, it's also what they even uh, I, I would the group says to themselves that this is what they were. You fight one brew and you fight them all right, well, yeah, it was their whole.
Speaker 2:Well, the don cherry mentality they were called the lunch pail name.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but even before that. Well, they were the big bad Bruins. Yes, you're right. Before and after that, late 60s, early 70s, the big bad Bruins begat the Broad Street Bullies, which forced the Habs to find more toughness through the bulk of the lineup, which then gave us the New York Islanders. And there's never been a team, any team, that had player one through player 18, with the exception of Bossy He'd maybe be the only out, maybe Stefan Persson. Everybody else was good to go on that Islander team, literally. I mean, you take Bob.
Speaker 1:Bourne, go down the line, anybody, everybody. You didn't need to. I mean they were tough and strong but they played through. I mean they were tough and strong but they played through. But you know what about that era of the Islanders is that they didn't do it. They weren't gratuitous with it Like Philadelphia went out of control. I thought they were. Of course, flyers used it as a tactic.
Speaker 2:The Islanders were a response to that era.
Speaker 1:That era was better, but as they moved forward, even guys like Clark Gillies, who was a fucking gorilla.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:I mean, when you think of Clark Gillies, the first thing you think of is not equating him with Dave Schultz. You equate him with a power forward. Of course you equate him with a guy who played well and you didn't want to tangle with no, but you don't think of him in the same way, and I think that's where the New York Islanders and I was not a New York Islander fan, aside from the fact that Denny Potvan was an Ottawa- guy from Eastview from like sure, sure, his brother Jean was there for a while, so, and yeah, so I, you know that was a thing.
Speaker 1:So we, okay, I always like you know, potvan, yeah, um, but other than that, uh, I, I I thought that they were a class organization.
Speaker 2:I mean, yes, they, they were, I don't. They didn't have guys like the flyers to back up as we reverse out of this road. We've gone down. Um, they took it to a level that led them to do what they did five finals, four cups, 19 series wins no one will ever match that consecutive.
Speaker 1:So they've got that key was ken mor.
Speaker 2:Well, he scored a lot of big goals for them. I mean, he came right out of winning. Miracle and ended up scoring.
Speaker 2:I mean, the guy scored, I think, four overtime goals in that playoff not in that playoff year, but over his career with the Islanders and he just scored some huge goals for them and obviously was a hell of an effective defenseman on top of that. So he just so complemented that roster Plus. He was big and strong, hardly fought, hardly needed to. I mean, by the time you got down to him on the depth chart scrappers there was really nobody else in any other team that wanted to go.
Speaker 2:But the Islanders were built to play any way you wanted. They kind of took Montreal's blueprint in that sense. Built to play any way you wanted, they kind of took Montreal's blueprint in that sense and and they, they just, they just were the next team that that took over, as the Canadians were, were going, you know, were fading in the late 70s, early 80s, of course, as it does for everybody. And and my point and all that was, terry O'Reilly would not have made that hit last night. Tom Wilson did. By the way, that was his second one in the game. He had done it earlier as well.
Speaker 2:So he was flying around doing what he did, I think largely because Jack Eye wasn't out there and he made that hit at the end and a three goal lead with seconds to play. And you're running the 20-year-old American kid Because you didn't think anybody was going to do anything. And if you look at the fight and look at his face, he is shocked. That's like he looks like he's got a. He's in a state of shock as he's trying to right the ship and he's figuring out holy shit, I didn't think anybody was gonna do anything, and then anderson's gone and then it was kind of just a tugging match until Josh got loose.
Speaker 1:Am I correct in this? Like, did they have time together or did they play together?
Speaker 2:No, no, no. Okay, they didn't play together.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Josh came out of Columbus, where he always scored against Montreal. It's just incredible when the Habs got him.
Speaker 1:They go. Okay, great, they got him.
Speaker 2:They traded Domi for him, who actually led the Habs in scoring there 72 points the first year he was there, played great and, you know, just fell out of favor so quickly. Now that's the Marc Bergeron era and the Habs you know, I think the tail end of his era and he was doing some things Whole other discussion but end of the day Josh comes in. I remember that first game against Toronto. He looked like. He looked like Clark Gillies in that first game as a Montreal Canadian and the regular season was against the Leafs. They lost late. It was an unbelievable hockey game and Josh played fantastic in it.
Speaker 2:It's just like, incrementally he got worse every like, every quarter of every season. He's so big, he's so strong he can skate. His shot is average, but I mean everybody can shoot today with the sticks. The thing is, as I said to him two years ago, trying to get all the way back to the conversation, get on the score sheet, because with your size and your ability you got. Guys are being halves, are being run out there in games that are over and nobody's doing anything. So, jack, I comes along and the whole league is talking about him. Last year, right, every like he was one of the discussion points through a good portion of the season. Then Rempe came along and kind of picked up that torch, right in the same vein, by the way, I don't know if you saw his fight with Hathaway or not, but that's the fight of the year so far. No doubt about it, no doubt about it Right at center ice too.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you his being sent down to sort of work on his game. Work on his game didn't last too long.
Speaker 2:His game came back.
Speaker 2:Everybody was just laughing about that one. Oh, I was saying Renfe down. He's laughing about that one. Oh, I was hitting Renfe down. He's gonna be working on his edges. I'm out here working on my shot, ma yeah, I mean, uh, he's brought back up like 72 hours later. So, whether it was, who knows, who knows what's going on these days. So many bodies go up and down. It's just paper transactions. In a lot of cases they don't even end up playing a game. It's just in and out transaction caps, this, that and the other. Anyway, he had a hell of a fight and, uh, I think it was hathaway. I think we got that wrong, I think it was no, I did I think it was.
Speaker 2:Anyways, that's center ice. It was a beauty, it was a fight of the year so far, but uh, anyways, it's great goal scoring's up, so listen goal scoring, being up and staying with the washington capitals yeah, ovi alexander ovechkin.
Speaker 1:Yep, uh, now he's off to a no, slow start this year. I mean no, he's doing well, yeah, but three points last night. It wasn't just a goal, yeah, no, no, two primary assists yeah, that's great, but he's never going to catch Gretzky's assist, so no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:He's got to focus on the goals.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, he is, but and everyone's going, oh, he's going to to do it this season. I will wager he's not doing it he's not scoring more goals.
Speaker 2:43, I don't think so.
Speaker 1:I don't think he's getting over 40. I don't think he's getting that this season.
Speaker 2:He's got three in the last two games to put him on a pace for 40. I find it hard to believe he'll maintain that, but what it does look like is he still plays the full two power play.
Speaker 1:Yes, well, because he's there like they. They'll switch up the unit. Four more guys will come on, but he'll. He stays on. Well, listen, as long as he's there, as long as he is on his dot yeah right like he's there when you think about guys who have that you know office yeah, right way behind the net hole, same spot as ovechkin yeah, right, right. Yeah, you know, boom, boom. I mean it's really hard to Bobby.
Speaker 2:Orr the entire ice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, yeah, and that was actually when he was on a penalty kill. That's right, yeah, yeah, but but you know, you know he you can't. I would have listen. If I was the coach, I would you have to have that shot there.
Speaker 2:But you do and teams have been. I've actually caught a few capital games this year and out of the 10 or 11 they've played, I think I've seen three or four and there are a lot of teams are sending a D right out on him, like their teams don't. Let's be honest. There's a lot of people that are pulling for him to do it.
Speaker 1:But the managers and the coaches when they're playing against them well, they don't want to see him score.
Speaker 2:No, and nobody wants to be the anecdote. No, and along the way, you know, to get there he's gonna have to score in a lot more goaltenders, a lot more teams. But you know, it was, uh, even I was watching the game at my son rory last night and we're going, oh, my child's gonna lose this game for sure. Let's hope Ovi doesn't score At least. Of course he did so. It was kind of a broken play, but he was right there, right place. Just a little buttered thing to get it in because Primo was down and out the way. The play had come to him. But he popped it in and he played a great game. But they had a five on three in the third as well. So did Montreal Didn't score and Washington didn't on theirs either. But they were feeding Ovi. I mean, they were passing him the puck from spots where. But don't, you should never pass it to him there. Oh, I gotta get it. Where is he? Where is he? Where is he?
Speaker 1:and they're getting it to Ovi 5 on 3 got lots of room right, so I my understanding is that Putin has offered. I believe you get 9,000.
Speaker 2:Some property in Ukraine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 9,000 acres in Ukraine, if you help.
Speaker 2:Ovechkin Shouldn't last, but yeah you know what I agree with you. First of all, I didn't think he'd come close to it. I'm surprised he's got five, but you know he got two. Last game gets a bonus one. He's got one empty netter so far.
Speaker 1:Matthew's got his fifth last night, also on an empty netter. He's been very quiet start and now mcdavid's hurt. It's been an interesting start of the season. So let's talk about mcdavid and the injury, and I mean there's been a lot of uh, you know what sticking the skates again, but you know he's going 100 miles an hour so bad things can happen.
Speaker 2:You're gonna hit the boards and, uh, looks like maybe they dodged the bullet because there was a lot of people playing doctors on twitter yeah, that were saying no, it's going to be a high ankle sprain right, which would be disastrous because that's eight to ten weeks yeah, yeah, that would have been disastrous.
Speaker 2:They're saying two to three, so we'll see. I hope they're right. Like you know me, it'd just be a hundred percent for February. Please, connor, I can't even imagine the four nation without him. I seriously can't. I mean, just just him alone not in the lineup could spell a disaster for us, cause you, just you need all hands on deck. We've been there, done that. We saw it in 06. We saw it in 98. Like any year that we lost, we were missing one or two or three. 1996 World Cup we're missing Mary Lemieux, ray Bork, al McInnes, Patrick Waugh and Paul Correa. None of those five guys played in 1996. We lose two games to one on a Brett Hull high stick. I know everyone's going to say Stevie OI was offside in game one. Yes, he was. I know Everyone's going to say Stevie Y was offside in game one. Yes, he was. Brett Hall, though, was a high stick and anyways, we lose.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure everyone was going to say that.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure most people I'm watching most people they're nodding, saying Liam, they were taking a sip like I am right now.
Speaker 1:They were just about to say it. Well, liam Stevie Y was offside. I know there's way too much going on, all right, so they're saying two weeks, but Two to three and they won last night.
Speaker 2:Got a nice win last night.
Speaker 1:Well, listen, he's not the only guy on the team. Right, they've got a solid team, yeah, but that does hurt my President's Cup prediction.
Speaker 2:Well, it's a long ways away. It is a ways away, but it's february. Hold on, you know what I mean. November 1st, we're gonna be okay, he'll be back well, let's just hope he's connor mcdavid. It was. Uh, it's a sprain of some sort, is what it is, and just thank god it's not anything worse, providing they're not feeding us a line here that's right.
Speaker 1:Well, this is the thing and that's the there's a lot of wait and see gray area with what they're feeding as far as well wait, we're gonna know.
Speaker 2:We're gonna know before the end of this month. Well, yeah, so we'll know two, three shows from now. We're gonna know, because he should be back, yeah, and, and he'll come back. And if edmonton can hang around and look available, uh boy, oh boy then maybe they can write their own ship, because you did pick them to win stanley, I did I did and uh, by the way, it's already been a game played today that I don't know some american holiday, so florida and dallas played today.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you caught any of it or not, but the panthers and note to chuck today and they're, they're just in another zone right now. Chris, yeah, they're in another freaking zone. They just, absolute, like dallas, had some great pushback throughout the game. But point about the goaltending neither goaltender, like Odinger or Bob Roski, played particularly well, excuse me, today. Yeah, okay, yeah, this game's already happened and taken place. It even says we're taping this relatively early in the evening. They've already played. So it's, it's, um, uh, florida, yeah, man, they're, they're, they're they're else, but it is November 1st.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is only November 1st. Yeah, we'll see. Okay, so let's move on to things we dislike. Toronto Maple Leafs oh, yes, okay. First of all, I want to say something you know if you are an NHL hockey player, you get paid good money, yeah, especially if you're a star. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So if you're an Eric Carlson, do something with your fucking hair. Man, right, yeah, like you don't like you look bad, you look like you're like honest to God. There are guys in Cuillon who are fucking quaffed better Okay.
Speaker 2:No offense to the guys in Cuillon, who are fucking quaffed better. Okay, no offense to the guys in Cuillon, but Cuillon's a great community.
Speaker 1:No, it's a great community. But at the same time I expect Home to Gavin's. I mean, come on, okay, you're right, okay, you know what. I take that back. I don't say, let's say St Pierre to Wakefield, okay, okay, bren. Okay, brennan's Hill, you're fucking, you know you're, I don't know, wow, you're going up the line there. I'm going up the line, I am going up the line which, by the way, I'm allowed to because my family's I told you yeah, yeah, that's right, yeah, okay, so anyway that being said, I can't stand the way Carlson looks, but also Austin Matthews looks like a fucking sc.
Speaker 1:Have you seen this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I see it every. Saturday night on Hockey Night in Canada, when they show him walking, are you talking about the commercial, the commercials and stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, does he ever look like a dirtbag? And he's got this. I don't even know. Listen, if you can't grow a beard, fucking buy one. You've got enough money. Get some plugs or something. Fix that. Grow a real beard or don't? Okay, yeah, maybe shave your head or trim it. Don't have it all over the place. I mean, holy christ, like you know, I don't know it, just it bugs me I don't even it.
Speaker 2:It's, it's inconsequential to me. Once I saw him do the interview last year and he had both earrings in and I just went, you know what? It's just a different era and I don't, I, I don't, I, just I don't resonate, it doesn't. I just just go out and play the best of your ability because all you've done, although they played okay last year in the playoffs- he did but they lost in overtime to your Bruins?
Speaker 1:What happens to having an image that's a clean cut?
Speaker 2:Well, look at, look at, even in the commercial they have him speaking specifically about something, about dress or whatever you know, and he's got all the suits and the hats and all the different whatever. That's what it is. Now I know I don't get it you know what. We're old school guys bud Speaking of commercials have you seen this?
Speaker 1:I think it's Royal Bank, it might even be CIBC. One of the banks is going hey, you know, if Conor McDavid ever wanted to be a carpenter, we'd back him 100%. Well, why don't you fucking back the carpenter instead of the fucking hockey player? The hockey player doesn't need your help, Okay, the carpenter does. You fucking pieces of shit at the banks. You're like you're going to, you're actually and your marketing people approve that fucking message.
Speaker 2:That's a good point actually. You know what I mean. Yeah, go in and try and get a loan.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, go in there as a regular person wanting to start up his ah, yeah, sorry, you know what I mean Left nut, no, sorry, yeah, okay, like you can't do it, well, but you're going to back the multi-millionaire guy to do something that he's completely not qualified for, like Jesus Christ, you know. And they say that, and they do the same thing about Conor Bedard and they're using that. They do all these things. It's you know what. You're a goof, that's all I'm saying. Okay, now they're going to be calling my loan. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:That being said.
Speaker 1:Okay, so we were talking about the Toronto Maple Leafs. I digressed about Austin Matthews and his appearance. Well, they.
Speaker 2:But he's a fuck of a good hockey player. They're winning two out of three games. I mean they're going to back into the playoffs, right? I mean it just goes without saying. They're going to try. We'll see. It looks like maybe right now again. Chris, you said it off the top of the show. We're a month in, so you know the Bruins are hurting big time. There's no question about that. That was just disastrous. It's maybe one of the worst I've ever seen last night.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what the problem is? Is there's not goalies hugging each other? Well, they're missing each other.
Speaker 2:Swayman doesn't look quite the same. Maybe he's missing his buddy who was over in Ottawa and definitely didn't have a ton of work against St Louis, but they got a nice win there and they're on the ice here very shortly playing what a lot of people think could be the team to challenge Florida in the east and that's the New York Rangers. So that'll be a hell of a game, because Ottawa actually has played way more games than bad and even the back-to-back losses they had the one in Vegas. They should have won that game. They had two, three bad minutes and the Colorado game maybe. Yeah, colorado kind of. Definitely they controlled that game territorially, there's no doubt about it, but they but Ottawa did have that game tied, much like Montreal last night, albeit two different teams, because Ottawa is significantly ahead of Montreal and in the curve as to where they're going right now. But it's exciting to see Toronto.
Speaker 2:I just really want to comment on Matthew Knives. The guy looks fantastic again. Yeah, he really does, because Matthew's has got five goals. He scores last night against Seattle into an empty net for his fifth. So he's been very quiet by his standard no, but he's.
Speaker 1:He's a rock star hockey player. I know I don't like the way he looks and the way he oh. No, he's a superstar, but he's a super.
Speaker 2:But but right right now I mean, we're a month in, you're 13 percent of the season done and he looks pretty average right now. Nylander looks like a beast, but Matthew Knives looks like a diamond in the rough, for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he looks fantastic Well, and he had a great season last year too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did, he did, and you know what.
Speaker 1:I mean, he's still on a rookie contract. Yeah, you know what? That's the thing.
Speaker 2:It the thing it's like. You know he'll do well in the next iteration.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because johnny t's coming off the books and, uh well, his 11, 11 mil is anyway, listen. So johnny t has been playing very well, though playing very well but he's not gonna be paid 11 if he stays in toronto, so he'll be able to do some things, but but uh, yeah, toronto looks.
Speaker 2:Toronto looks as usual. Yeah, that this has been the role they've played the last number of years. For them this is all a rehearsal until the playoffs, but they've looked okay. Habs are definitely behind, where even, I think, a lot of people myself included as a Hab fan maybe we were reading the tea leaves a little too much here and we're expecting Maybe you're smoking the tea leaves.
Speaker 2:Maybe I don't smoke anything, but perhaps in this case I did. I don't smoke anything, but perhaps in this case I did, I don't know. And Winnipegger Beasts, obviously, yeah, they've played spectacular. Scott O'Neill, I mean Rick Bonas, did all he could there. Well, he did a good job. And Rick came in.
Speaker 2:You know, paul Maurice exited stage door, left on his own accord, goes down to Florida, wins the Stanley Cup. Rick comes in bench boss historical. No one's coached more games than him on the bench as a head coach or an assistant. And you know his wife has been ill and decides after all these years, a career hockey guy packs it in scarred. Our neil, yeah, no, former jet. And uh, cornwall royal and all the rest comes in and and he's got everybody firing on, uh, on on all cylinders, and so it's, it's, it's uh, their dynamite team to see right now. And calgary's played okay. Edmonton we all know about the start, but uh, they get the first win without connor. And uh, toronto looks okay. Ottawa looks okay too. Ottawa has looked all right as well. They're, they're, they're in a playoff spot right now, or a point out, or whatever. They got games in hand, but in terms of percentage they would be in if it ended today. They haven't had in October, they haven't been in this position in years, so in like five years or something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because they've started out. Basically they've put themselves out of any contention by Christmas.
Speaker 2:Exactly. They've been dead and buried by christmas about that.
Speaker 2:We have to be since fans have to be happy with what they're seeing right now because, first of all, the power play is devastating right now. It's running at 41 points 41 crazy. Of course it'll come down. Edmonton set the record two years ago, beat montreal's record from 76 by just a couple percentage points, I think around 32 ish. Montreal was 31.6 or something so 31.8, something like that. The Islanders are right there too in that era, but Edmonton beat it two years ago. Ottawa's at 41 right now. So you know, but uh, uh, it's, it's, uh, they're, they're good. Jake Sanderson's playing fantastic and, uh, getting you know we'll. We'll see what happens. As I said, they, they deserved a better fate than those two games, vegas and Colorado. They come back home and they spank the shit out of St Louis. Did you see Binnington come in on the scrum there to Chuck and then he turns down, he gives Allmark the nod, so Allmark skates out of the crease a little bit.
Speaker 1:Everybody.
Speaker 2:Gordon Miller's starting to. You know, you can tell he's starting to foam at the mouth, even though he's not a fan of fighting and hockey, but it you know what he's projecting as the announcer is he's. It must've been cool. I wasn't at the game, but it must've been cool to see, because Binnington is nuts, right, he's absolutely like. He's Terry Sawchuck reincarnated. Oh really. Oh yeah, terry Sawchuck was absolutely ridiculous on the ice and off, sadly, as we know, 1970 with Ronnie Stewart, but that said.
Speaker 1:Wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 2:Tell me what happened next time. Well, that's how Sawchuck died. He died after a fight with Ronnie Stewart off the ice the Ottawa, ronnie Stewart. No, oh, different, no, no, yeah, the Ronnie Stewart who played hockey, not the Ronnie Stewart with the Rough.
Speaker 1:Riders.
Speaker 2:But yeah, yeah, they argued over a bill at a bar and after I'm sure they'd been there quite a while, then they went back and, uh, they, they, the argument and the drinking continued and there was a cement barbecue. Oh, the cement barbecue, and yeah, that, yeah, he hit, he hit and went in and he was alive for a few days, but he, he died and he died. He died because of that fight. And there was, yeah, there was alive for a few days, but he, he died and he died. He died because of that fight. And there there was, yeah, there was investigation charges and everything. Everything ended up getting thrown out. But you know how you improve it, you know this, that and everything else.
Speaker 1:So you know, but it was. You know what ron stewart had to live with that, so oh yeah you know, that's a uh yeah, that's not a good moniker to have.
Speaker 2:No, but Sawchuck was a noted absolute crazy man on the ice when he played. I mean, he went through a lot of mental health issues too, so that maybe led to some of it.
Speaker 1:Now do we know that there were mental health issues or are we just speculating now?
Speaker 2:No, we know, we know, oh yeah, it's well documented what his first time leaving Detroit going to Boston? Yeah, and you know you talk about big trades. I mean he's traded one for one with Johnny Busick. I mean that's a pretty big trade, yeah, right, and yes, it's a million years ago, folks. But you are talking about two great players here. No, absolutely.
Speaker 1:But listen, here's the thing. I think all goaltenders are a bit, you know yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, you've got to be, you have to be. Listen. I remember this distinctly. We had a goaltender. He used to talk to himself all the time, yeah, and he would like, he would have like back and forth. He'd be at and you'd watch him from the bench right Like if the play's either in, and he was like you know what I animated conversation I'm pretty sure he might have had. I don't know if he had multiple personality disorder, but all I know is that when the guy who could play net showed up, he was a good goaltender.
Speaker 1:That's the important thing, I don't care how many personalities you have, as long as they can all fucking stomp a puck.
Speaker 2:Listen, we all know what Binnington did in 2019. He brought the St Louis Blues off the mat. Nobody's done that. Been in last place. New Year's they come back. They win the Stanley Cup. He was largely responsible for it. Yeah, ryan O'Reilly won the Consummate rightfully so, but Bennington I think was either second or third in voting.
Speaker 1:And you know what? I will never feel bad for a team winning the cup. Yeah, because I know each one of those kids and it's one of the things that I don't know who said it? Oh, no, gretzky said this. Gretzky was talking about when they were the first time that they were in the Stanley Cup final. Yeah, right, and they lost 83. Okay and final yeah, right, and they lost 83, okay. And he was saying how, here they are, um, in the stanley cup finals. Yeah, you dream of this as a kid? Yeah, right, yeah, as a kid playing road hockey, right, it's. Yeah, it's the stanley cup final. It's the last game.
Speaker 2:sure, now you're going to score the winning you're always your hero in the driveway when you're going far down with a tennis ball?
Speaker 1:yeah, exactly, but but the thing is, oh, you know what fucking tennis ball, when it's frozen in Ontario, the welts frozen anywhere.
Speaker 2:Believe me, we had much colder weather around here too. We always played with a tennis ball and it, it, it hurt. You got out of the way. Some people were shooting like Kevin Jardine. Get the hell out of the way. Some people were shooting like Kevin Jardine. Get the hell out of the way of that shot. He could fire it, could he? Oh yeah, he could stop it too. He is a great goaltender on the ice. Off the ice, he plays out in ball hockey and he's outstanding.
Speaker 1:And so listen with him in net, right, because I played with him and against him, right yeah so old school.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, the guy. Oh yeah, it's like fuck, like on right down to the helmet too right, he's got his long. Johns are from like 1982, but but he's done.
Speaker 1:He does the stack of the pads yeah there's the whole it's like wow, what? Where are you from? Right, yeah because everyone's down, everyone's in and and you know he's 65 years old, I know and he's, he's still you know playing the net. Yeah, my other goaltender, actually a couple of goalies that I you know I'm on a number of teams. One of the other goalies I played with last night we won by the way, oh good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was. We won 6-1. Okay, yeah, he got pissed off because we, it was a bad play and I took the wrong. I, I had a man, I had my man. Okay, defenseman, this is to give up the shutout. To give up the shutout, okay, the defenseman left. I don't know where the fuck he went, maybe to buy a hot dog or something. Okay, but I got my guy. I've got a you know boom off the thing and there's a guy standing fucking right there. No one watched him like he could have. The guy could have set up an office, you know remote. He actually had phones installed. That's how long he was able to stand there.
Speaker 2:I hate when that happens.
Speaker 1:But you can't. You make the mistake, right, if I leave this guy, if I can go to that guy, the next thing I know I'm in the middle and they're both open, right, you can't do it Anyhow, but our goalie is 63.
Speaker 2:Oh wow, Right there with the header.
Speaker 1:Well, and he's not getting great shape and he's like, he's up and down and it's like Jesus, like I don't know how they do it, because I like.
Speaker 2:I don't know either man Be a target that long, and we know many others Billy Boyven, there's lots of guys in the area.
Speaker 1:Is he still playing on? I know he's playing Tuesday mornings or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think he's playing out in Leitrim, I heard I think he's playing in Leitrim, but he's not in the tick anymore. I don't think I thought he was playing in the morning. Now I could be wrong.
Speaker 1:Someone mentioned it.
Speaker 2:So pick up, he's not playing in the league.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, Not in the league. Not in the league is that I don't know how you could find a fucking trapper that would fit.
Speaker 2:I know that's a massive hand. The guy didn't even need. How do you go in car engines? The guy's a mechanic for billions of decades. I always say, billy, how'd you get in, like work, those digits of yours in? Underneath I think he hired Mexicans to work in inside. Like little you know Mexicans from Quion, that's right.
Speaker 1:Let me try to be as politically incorrect as I possibly can.
Speaker 2:It was only a matter of time folks. Well, no, I who had 45 minutes in the pool Listen here's the thing.
Speaker 1:I will say this. You know, people complain to all this terrible Mexicans coming. Illegal Bastards work hard.
Speaker 2:Somebody's got to do it but they work frigging hard. This somebody's got to do it, but they work freaking hard.
Speaker 1:This society has raised a whole generation of people who are looking for the handout. So well, you know who I was talking with. Um, miller's farm yeah, and they cannot get local kids to work the farm yeah, picking and do anything, yeah, and, and I know that my kids would have, I would have made my kids and when I was young, yeah fuck. You know know how you want. You wanted to get onto the fucking farm. I just wanted a job.
Speaker 2:Just yeah, I took as much work as I possibly could. We all did. Well, we're from that era.
Speaker 1:Well, this is the way it was you would go out and I remember friends going, hey, like, and I remember bugging this guy. I was working at kentucky fried chicken, okay, in blossom park, yeah, okay. And uh, a buddy who was out in medcath he goes, listen, uh, guy left. We need another guy to help us. We're bringing in the hay, we're doing this and that I fuck. I was there. Yeah, right, you get to go.
Speaker 1:You work for fucking 16 hours yeah right, but they gave you beer and food right Plus good money. I get whatever. It was better money than working at Kentucky Fried Chicken. Yeah, Okay, it was hard, it was great and all and the whole time that I was doing it. I swear to God you know who I was thinking about Bobby Hull.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, of course, the famous shot. Did you replicate it?
Speaker 1:Well, I, not exactly. I didn't quite have the. I was like, listen, don't get me wrong, I, I had a. I was built. I used to have a perfect v. Yeah, that's uh. It's a u. Now it's an o. It's actually an o now I've gone from a consonant to a vowel.
Speaker 1:Okay, um, but you've had to get a viable exactly at some point in my life this is the sad part my pecs, yeah, turned to tits and I I don't know what had happened. It just sort of was transitional, but I noticed gravity. It well, it is gravity, but they are ample. They're ample breasts. Just if anybody needs to know, there's any women out there looking, there you go ample breasts, yeah, um okay do we have anything else we wanted to talk about? We talked ottawa, toronto, uh, toronto, all that stuff.
Speaker 2:Just two things maybe Shout out, for I think we got, I think Shoeless Joes are coming back on with us.
Speaker 1:They're going to join us. They haven't been with us before? Yeah, last year, no, yeah. Did we do anything with Shoeless? Yeah, no, I don't think so.
Speaker 2:We were talking with them, but it never came through. Oh, okay, well, I thought it did.
Speaker 1:No, I didn't think so.
Speaker 2:I thought Well, listen. I thought so.
Speaker 1:Maybe I don't remember, Because I would have put Shoeless Joe's in there as the. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Well, we're hoping that Jeffff underhill and shoeless joe join us. He's got two locations, yeah and orleans and kempville that's right, and they're fantastic. I was in the kempville one recently um I try and go there periodically I've never been to the orleans one.
Speaker 2:I helped open it actually on opening night. Yeah, they had a fabulous night and brought in a bunch of guys claude julian was there, jason york, ron, tug nut and we had a great night. I did interviews with them, place was packed and it's a beautiful location way in orleans. So anyways, we're hoping jeff comes on board.
Speaker 2:He wants to sponsor a little. Uh, little history, little trivia. So I thought he was talking about goaltenders. Just very quickly, jacques plant wore a mask for the first time on this date today, november 1st 1959. Andy bathgate hit him in the head. He went off, told tol blake uh, if I play, continue playing. I'm wearing a mask, otherwise get somebody else addressed. No, no backup goalies in those days, right and so blake had to let him play and uh, but father had been wearing the mask.
Speaker 1:In practice he'd been wearing it in practice and, by the way, any idea where tol blake's from?
Speaker 2:yeah, he, he's from Victoria Mines, which doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 1:What did that become? What did Victoria Mines become?
Speaker 2:Another town in Northern Ontario very close to you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I believe it was called Coniston. That's right, yeah, toe. Blake's a hero of the town, of course. Of course, how could he not be? He had been the winningest coach in NHL for a long time.
Speaker 2:He had been. I mean Scottie passed him.
Speaker 1:Well, al Arbor passed him first Well, and Al Arbor's another secondary boy.
Speaker 2:Well, and Toll had his wins where, like Dick Irvin Sr had the overall record, and then Toll took the Stanley Cup record, and then Al Arbor took the games record and then Scottie's got them all now Right, record, right. And then al arbor took the games record and then scotty's got them all now right. So but that's kind of sort of chronologically. We kind of got to break them up, depending on what stat you're talking about. But and he got his nickname from his niece, right, she they. They couldn't say hector, uncle hector, they said uncle hecto. So I got shortened to toe. So that's how he got his nickname.
Speaker 2:But I was in the tavern one time only. I went in the Toll Blake tavern and I geez it just. It's prompted me just also just before we shut down here, because the I had a about a less than a minute conversation with him. The smoke was so thick could barely see you to me away. There wasn't one woman in the place, it was all guys.
Speaker 2:I was in there with Paul Rushlaw from the Cars Road, second Line and Jeff Saunders, whose dad owned Saunders Electric and Manatee, and we all ordered quarts and it was Mr Blake. He was talking to these guys. I went up and talked to him. I said my name's Liam McGuire, from Ottawa. He couldn't give a shit who I was and I said could I just ask you a quick question? He was signing an autograph for me and I said do you think Montreal made the trade for you to replace Howie Morenz? And he just looked at me because at the time I'm like 20 years old and I look like 14 and definitely the last question he was ever expecting to hear and he just stared at me like his eyes were burning right through me and he just said, son, nobody was replacing morens. And he turned around and walked away and I went okay, probably shouldn't have gone there, but I thought you know I thought, man, I'm gonna get a nugget here.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm gonna get a nugget. He's gonna give me some, you know, because tol blake was traded from the montreal maroons to the montreal canadians. Yeah, and that's how he became a Hab and he was on that big line he was on the punch line, whose first game ever was today.
Speaker 2:Oh, is that right? Yes, also another little this day in hockey history, maybe in the future, brought to you by Shoeless Joes, but for now yes, I just thought of that, chris their first game together. And they were the second line in NHL history to finish one, two, three. In scoring the Kraut line on your Bruins were first 1939, schmidt, dumart Bauer, then the punch line, and then the production line, gordie Howe, ted Lindsay and Sid Abel in 1949-50. So only three lines, although the Bruins put almost their entire roster in the top 10 in 1971 so.
Speaker 2:Seven guys in the top 10 scoring. I mean, come on, it's just ridiculous what they did in 1971. 399 goals for.
Speaker 1:Well, Hodge Busek and Espo, yeah, I mean, they were Incredible line. No, they weren't 1, 2, 3, but they must have been 1.
Speaker 2:Well, bobby kind of broke that up, right. Oh yeah, yeah. So that's why Fucking or and Hodge and Gaston were down a little bit, but obviously Espo was the man right, he had 152 points that year. But anyway, speaking of Howie Morenz, I am going to try and set this up, I'm going to try to start, maybe even tomorrow, if not Monday, going to do a little cross promotion for Offside with Haas and McGuire and because what I, what I miss doing and is is just commenting daily, basically, I get pegged, I get pinged messages all the time. My phone goes constantly on all my platforms. I go, I need to bang out something.
Speaker 2:I'm going to call it the Marenz minute and it's not going to actually be a minute, but it's going to be be short it's going to be like three minutes, four minutes, and I'm gonna use it and I'm gonna say that this hey, listen offside with haas and mcguire if you want to hear more on on these topics. Catch our show available where you know podcasts what's going to be the the? It's, it's like the night after, because I watch everything. Oh, so you're going to talk about what? Yeah, exactly the immediacy of what happens. So you know, we're. Let's say, for example um, we're, we're not going to tape now till next week probably not right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean we, we probably won't. I mean yeah, more than likely well, I mean, we like to do once a week, once a week is generally what we set up to do.
Speaker 2:as everybody knows, we're not getting paid for this. If we were making bigger money, we could get together more yeah for sure, and maybe God willing, if we go to a year, three or four or beyond, we'll get some sponsors to come on board.
Speaker 2:that'll make it worth our while to do more tapings yeah but in the meantime, what I love to do, and always have, isn't just take a microphone, like I am. Tomorrow night in winchester, I'll be working with wendell clark and chris neal and mike krusielinski and geraldine heaney, who's in the hockey hall of fame third woman to go in so they're going to be on a hot stove with me tomorrow night in winchester, the jo Joel Steele Arena. This is how I make my living. Try to. But what I love to do, beyond just talking about Jacques Plante in 59 and the punchline, is what happened in the games last night and the little bit of nuggets that I see and the little bit of things that I see, whether it's an Anderson-Wilson fight or what have you. We're able to talk about it today. Next week we'll talk about other things, chris, in a more, you know, elongated fashion, but in the Marenz Minute I want to be in and out like literally, literally. It'll be less than five minutes.
Speaker 1:It'll be like sex. It'll be like sex In and out in a very short time, yeah, three four minutes, call it a day.
Speaker 2:And just tease offside with Haas and McGuire and if anything that we have going. You know, just uh, and let's say, uh, the hockey pool is already running, but by chance we have something else that we want to, that we want people to be aware of in offside with haas and mcguire. But I'm going to use it sort of as a cross promotion. Yeah, I'm going to put fired out there on the platform something really short punchy liam style coming at you. It's going to be on camera and and audio, obviously, and just bang it out there. No trivia or nothing, just going to hammer things just quickly. What I saw from the night before there you go Called the Moren's Minute. Liam McGuire has a sort of a little um, what would I call it? A little addition to Offside with Hazem McGuire.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, it's a spinoff. Spinoff that's the word I was looking for and, just to be clear, I get 20% of the revenues.
Speaker 2:And that's how it works.
Speaker 1:And so far, you end up owing money 20% of this. That's right. So, okay, this has been. This is it. We're done. So this has been offside with haas mcguire. I'm haas, I'm mcguire. Good day.
