Offside with Hawes and Maguire
Offside: with Hawes and Maguire is not your typical hockey show. This weekly
45-60 minute show is a potent combination of humour and genuine hockey insights that pushes the envelope.
- Liam is renowned for his photographic memory, lively storytelling, vast hockey knowledge and sometimes over-the-top passion for the game of hockey.
- Chris is known for his unrehearsed humour, contagious laughter and uncanny ability to make even the most serious debates end in boisterous guffaws.
Between the two, there is an infectious enthusiasm and professional chemistry that is evident from the outset. It can only be described as lightning in a bottle.
Offside with Hawes and Maguire
Liam's NHL Legends Tour, Four Nations Cup ramblings This Day in Hockey.
What happens when a golf trip to Myrtle Beach turns into a convention from Ottawa, and an NHL legends tour takes Liam on a whirlwind journey across the East Coast? Our latest episode of Offside with Hawes and Maguire spills all the inside stories, from the picturesque greens of Arrowhead to memorable encounters with hockey legends like Chris Nilan and Stéphane Richer. Although Ron Duguay couldn't join due to health concerns, we send our warmest wishes for his speedy recovery. Engaging tales and friendly banter are on the menu, along with a sprinkle of humor about Auston Matthews' mysterious "soul injury."
As the NHL season heats up, we share our thoughts on the surprising coaching shake-ups and the current performance of the Toronto Maple Leafs and the Ottawa Senators, while speculating wildly about the Bruins' coaching conundrum. Meanwhile, the Four Nations hockey tournament is just around the corner, promising exhilarating matchups with powerhouse teams from Sweden, Finland, the United States, and Canada. Get ready for some spirited analysis as we highlight Canada’s star-studded lineup and explore the tournament's significance in the run-up to the 2026 Olympics.
Beyond the ice, we dive into the heart of hockey culture, from players standing up for each other to the thrilling speed of the game that can only truly be appreciated in person. With emerging talents like Stutzle and Bedard capturing our attention, we celebrate the passion and unpredictability that makes hockey unique. Tune in for a mix of sports travel tales, legendary encounters, and reflections on the enduring respect and camaraderie within the game.
It's Offside with Haas and McGuire. You ready, I'm ready, okay, you're ready, we're going to open this up, all right Still sounds great.
Speaker 2:It does sound great.
Speaker 1:You know I don't know if you've seen this, but it's a meme or something the three greatest sounds in golf no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:One is the ball going into the hole Of course, the other one is the nice drive, hitting that drive, hitting that drive. And the third one, coping in a beer.
Speaker 1:So anyhow, hey, welcome to Offside with Hans McGuire. I'm Hans, I'm McGuire. Okay, today is it's been a long time since we got together.
Speaker 2:It's been a while, man, you were in Florida, I was out east, I was in Florida, no I was in Myrtle Beach.
Speaker 1:Oh, you were in Myrtle Beach, sorry. Yeah, I was in Myrtle Beach, yeah, yeah, and golfing I don't know if you know they have some golf courses there. I heard, yes, and it was awesome, it was great, it was a really great trip, and 40 guys from here, the hotel next to us, another 30 guys from Ottawa Come on. Yeah, oh yeah, there have to be guys that knew guys.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Absolutely yeah. And then the week before, another group of guys I know were down. Wow, okay, so you could not swing a dead cat without hitting somebody from Ottawa.
Speaker 2:What are the courses like?
Speaker 1:You know, we played some really nice courses. I've been several times, yeah, and the courses are good. I mean, you know what. You know, I'm partial to Ireland, right, of course, so they're not as nice as Ireland played a few really nice courses. We played one called Arrowhead, okay, which I it was my favorite, but tough course, like, yes, but it played my game and my golf club as well, yeah, so, because it was a little shorter, a little more targety, you know what I mean, and so I could didn't have to go for the long bombs or anything like that, yeah and uh, and so that was my favorite. But we played, uh, another course which is the oldest course in Myrtle Beach. Uh, called uh, the oldest course in Myrtle Beach. Oh, yeah great name yeah, it was.
Speaker 1:It was a I can't remember the name pine it even rhymes.
Speaker 1:It even rhymes. It was Pine something. Anyways, yeah, it was a nice course too, really quite nice. You know it was a great job done by, you know, ray Razor, ray Smith, okay, arranged it for everybody. Yeah, and so I. This was great opportunity to go on a trip that I didn't have to organize, I didn't have to do it. I must have felt good. Do you know what? After Ireland, it was almost like touching myself. Okay, now that we've gone there, you had four minutes in the pool before something inappropriate.
Speaker 1:All right so, but you were on the East Coast yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:So you were out with the legends.
Speaker 2:NHL legends the NHL legends. Nhl legends.
Speaker 1:And so you were out in New Brunswick New.
Speaker 2:Brunswick and Nova Scotia and Nova Scotia.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so tell me about this. Who was there? What did you do?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the same trip. Same, yeah, it's the same trip, same guys. Well, same company as last year. So this is Steve Walton, out of St John, new Brunswick, has had this company in a while. I thought I was going to lose it during COVID. Hung on to it, got it going again last year and I was fortunate enough to do, I think, three or four tours of them last year. So this was the first one for this season. Pretty quick trip, chris, really. But we, we started a town in Lamac, northern New Brunswick, and then we came down to, uh, bathurst, yeah, petit Rocher area, and then we went into, uh, uh, into into the St John area yeah, rossay and um and uh, I can't pronounce it. I always say it wrong, you know.
Speaker 1:I don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, somewhere in New Brunswick. And then we headed to Trueno, nova Scotia. We had Chris Nyland and he was the coach of the alumni they had. I'll probably forget somebody here now, but they had Stefan Richer and you know we had some Ron Duguay who we interviewed in Florida. He's fighting a little bit of an illness right now. Oh really what's that? Well, they're doing some tests and stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you never like that. I never like to hear that.
Speaker 2:No, I mean he's 67, turning 68, so some stuff going on. Let's hope that things go well. But he was scheduled to come and he couldn't make it. And Brian go well. But he was scheduled to come and he couldn't make it. And brian scroogland was scheduled to come. He almost always attends these things and his father-in-law died suddenly, oh, right on the eve of uh of the trip. So those two were replaced by uh david day harney.
Speaker 2:Okay I know day who was playing pro last year in sw, came on the tour and scored nine kajillion goals. I mean it was Lucien Deblois. Stéphane Richer and David Desjardins were kind of on the hab line, but a name that you're going to absolutely love was there, and it's the first time I've ever worked with him and there's not many guys that that happens with me anymore.
Speaker 1:Who's that? Ken Lman oh, the rat yeah, the original yeah kenny linsman oh, that would be fun oh, it was so cool.
Speaker 2:And david shaw who? Uh, so we had pj shaw. Kenny linsman and david shaw were all former boston bruins okay, yeah among other teams. David shaw was a uh uh drafted by the Quebec Nordiques, but you know, I mean Lindsman played 800 games in the NHL. He played in the WHA. Ken Lindsman is the man responsible?
Speaker 1:Does he have a ring with Edmonton? He does not.
Speaker 2:Yes, he does. Yes, he scored the first ever cup winning goal.
Speaker 1:Oh did he In all of their history In 1984.
Speaker 2:So he's drafted by the Flyers out of the WHA. Yeah, he was the man who and his agent, Art Kaminsky, who challenged the 20-year-old draft oh really and basically broke its back and forced the NHL to go to an 18-year-old draft Really, yeah, it was Kenny Linsman, followed by the six baby bulls who all signed underage, but they did after Ken did, Right. So they you know Gaston Gingras and Rob Ramage and Rick Vive and Pat Reagan and Craig Hartsburg. You know those six of these guys that came the year after Kenny. Anyway, Ken's on the trip too, and it was, you know, I'd never worked with him before. And PJ Stock have worked with David Shaw I've never worked with before. Like, we played one game. Every place was packed by the way they packed these arenas to see these guys. It's unfreaking, believable. And one of the games we were playing on the other side was a guy who won the Memorial Cup in 2022, just a couple of years ago. Oh, really, he's actually playing university hockey right now.
Speaker 1:Okay, in New Brunswick.
Speaker 2:In the University of New Brunswick.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah.
Speaker 2:We've got a great program Jesus.
Speaker 2:I mean it's just absolutely. You know, mcdougal just runs that show there and it's just crazy. Anyways, he won in 2022 and Dave Shaw won in 1982, 40 years apart. I got a picture of him in the dressing room. It's awesome, it's just cool stuff, you know, yeah, I love that, as you know, but it was, it was just a blast. Steve does, steve walton does, uh, an outstanding job. He's cut from your cloth, he sets this whole thing up and and, uh, you know, you, you organize it, you got your transportation, you got your accommodation and, uh, you got your, uh, your bars that you're going to after, after the event.
Speaker 2:Is that a priority, you know? Let's say it's mandatory. You have to go and there was some great receptions where I was able to do. We did three hot stoves. I had Chris Nyland and Ken Linsman on stage for the first time ever since the brawl in the hall November 20th 1986, when Nyland was a line brawl on the ice, montreal, boston. I know there's people some people will remember this. It's the one, chris, where Nyland's going off the ice and Ken says something to him although on stage he said I never said anything to him and Nyland turns around and pops him oh really, and half the brewing bench comes and then the halves bench empties and everybody not everybody, but about eight of them end up out of camera view right down down down the hall.
Speaker 2:Hence the name brawl in the hall and for the first time ever, we got the full side story. It was a freaking believable. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 1:So Linsman claiming he said nothing, so he's sitting there. All of a sudden this guy cold cocks him.
Speaker 2:That's right. So he says pardon, I beg your pardon. So I sit there and I snap, and I snap and I lose it.
Speaker 1:My head faking with the skate blade.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thinking it was Jeff Geiger's head exactly butt into the solar plexus.
Speaker 1:Okay, sorry, we got a little champish there. We should talk about some other things other than us. It's a great trip, congratulations, and you'll be going on another one soon well, it looks like, because of Ron's illness, probably the Alaska tour and it looks like.
Speaker 2:Sarah Paley is probably going to end up in the White House, so is that right Well? That's certainly the hot, the hot rumor.
Speaker 1:Really she's going to be going back and doing, doing what obviously is don't know, no idea, but I mean the fact that she played.
Speaker 2:She and Ron played a huge role in our Alaska part of the tour last year, and so that's not on right now, while Ron deals with his health and then Sarah deals with whatever. Trump's going to throw at her.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what? Listen, she's somebody who has a lot to contribute, right?
Speaker 2:I'm waiting for you going to have her.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not going to say anything bad about her. I actually like sarah palin. Okay, I think she was vilified by the press and a lot of things yeah yeah, but uh, you know she's a good looking lady and um and and you know what you don't become. And you know what you don't become the governor of any state, or you aren't successful in politics at any level without being a fucking high-end person. Yeah Right, she was a gymnast. I don't know if you knew this right.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I know her background, she was a gymnast.
Speaker 1:She was a college athlete. Yeah, Captain of like I don't know, it was a basketball team. Four foot two when she was the captain of the basketball team. You know what I mean. She's a fighter, right. So I have respect for her there. You know what.
Speaker 2:Despite what some people may say, I don't think you could grow up there if you're not tough. You're in the middle of wilderness up there in Wasilla.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean. Yes, she's in a lavish with Scylla. That's why Elvis used to call his wife yeah, there's a come here Scylla. Yeah, oh, it's something like that something like that.
Speaker 2:Something could have been Priscilla, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know you know um okay, so uh, I'm sorry you know what? So next stop for us is uh Long Pond, where the uh the home of hockey, or they claim to be back in Nova Scotia, right, and then we're going to Labrador.
Speaker 1:Oh, great yeah going to Labrador.
Speaker 2:So that's, next. And then we're actually heading down where you always go down south. We've got a trip heading down to Georgia and Florida. Really, yeah, wow, yeah.
Speaker 1:NHL legend.
Speaker 2:So, you know, maybe we'll see what uh see what you're doing. Come join us, you know.
Speaker 1:I, I, you know what I, it could happen, it could happen, okay. So the next thing is uh, we're going to talk about the NHL at currently, but I want to bring up a couple of things before, because there's lots of activity happening right now. Yeah, okay, uh, and I'm going to start with the fact that Austin Matthews, after I criticized his looks, has fucking left the game. He's left the game of hockey because I hurt his feelings they're calling it an upper body injury, but it's right here I hurt him in the soul and so he's not playing.
Speaker 2:Yet the Leafs continue to win, notwithstanding as we taped this getting waxed last night by Florida but other than that. I mean they're first place in the division.
Speaker 1:But it was Florida.
Speaker 2:It was Florida.
Speaker 1:Defending.
Speaker 2:Stanley Cup champions.
Speaker 1:No shame. So yeah, so the Leafs are doing very well. And here's the thing Could be the year that's what everybody says could be. It could be the Leafs year. They've been saying that for the last 45 years. Yeah, whatever, it is no, probably 50 58 years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's 58, 58 season since they won, I believe 58th year anyway, going to 2025. But uh, matthews is back skating after whatever the hell happened in germany. Who even knows? I don't even know, but I think there's some details on it. I didn't read him.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you did or not, but no, no, no, I don't know, I didn't read him he's back skating.
Speaker 2:He looks okay on the ice. I don't know there's I don't think there's a projected return date yet you know what?
Speaker 1:they're not missing them well, no, this the thing. If you have a team that's doing that, what you look at? I mean now a guy like Matthews. Obviously you want back, Sure, but if it wasn't Matthews, if he was a third liner, he'd be like eesh, there might be a bus ticket in there for me, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, Like you know that, whole.
Speaker 1:he'd be like eesh. I don't know, we've got some good chemistry going here, but it is Matthews. He makes too much money. He's too good a hockey player. But that being said, you know.
Speaker 2:Three reasons. I would say Nylander and Marner. Nylander in particular for most of what we've seen in this young season. So far, chris has been outstanding. Marner has been pretty steady himself. Matthew Knives McMahon but really, if there's a name that's come out of left field because he's bounced around, it's the goaltender Stolarz. Yeah, he has been well played well, too.
Speaker 2:Walls played well also. However, stolarz, I think has been more the story here, as they've ascended into first in the division, notwithstanding the fact that in the eight teams in the Atlantic they're separated by nine points. I know. I mean the other divisions are not even remotely close to how tightly knit as it is in the Atlantic. It's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 1:Now speaking more about the division, okay, so I just want to talk about the ottawa senators for a second, as it relates to. So. So I, you know what, I broke my vow to never go back to the ah, the corral center. Yes, ctc only did it because my mother-in-law, for her birthday, yeah, wanted to go and see the game, okay, so I broke it for that, for that, okay, but that was the only reason. So I, but I go there and Ottawa happened to win the game, yeah, okay, against Calgary. It was at that Calgary game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, but they're not doing well, like they're, not like they're. You know what they're. They're like a little bit above Montreal, let's say Okay. But I'm just going to put it into perspective. Yeah, two points. They are well below Boston, and Boston fired their coach. So my question is now first of all, I don't know what happened to have fired Montgomery just absolutely was a whipping, whipping boy there. Let's be honest well, I yeah, but how do you go from?
Speaker 1:how do you go from like 65 wins and well, and this is 135 points so so, but I thought I I think he told Cam Neely to go fuck himself. Yeah, okay. And Cam Neely said all right, you're fired. Okay. That's the only reason to fire a guy at this juncture on a team that you know is underperforming, but that there's a lot of factors there. I mean you can't blame the coach for the goaltender being a sieve.
Speaker 2:No, Swayman has not been good.
Speaker 2:No he's not been good and, uh, corpus Allo. Actually it's not been that bad for them, despite not being able to stop a beach ball roll from center ice here in Ottawa. But if you look around the NHL it's littered with goaltenders who came through the graveyard here and have gone on elsewhere and are playing pretty good Talbot's in the discussion for Canada, for the Four Nations. Gustafsson's probably going to. If he he's not starting, he's number two for sweden and it's just. It's just a freak of nature to some degree. It all. It does speak to other things, but hey, listen, montgomery's firing was a joke and everybody in hockey knows that yeah and that's why he was hired like 48 hours later by st louis.
Speaker 2:so he was an assistant coach there previously, so he has a little bit of familiarity with the program, the organization. He gets hired a couple days later. It's like the last three coaches that they've had have all been rehired in eight days or less after they've left the Bruins Right, and they've all been previous.
Speaker 1:Jack Adams award winners too. So everybody knows because Butch Cassidy right, claude Julien yeah.
Speaker 2:Same thing. In fact, he was the longest. He had to wait eight days, eight days for a job. Cassidy was a week yeah, and Monty was two days yeah.
Speaker 1:There is something wrong. There's something rotten in Denmark.
Speaker 2:And you know what it is. You said the name.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you think it is eh.
Speaker 2:Fucking right.
Speaker 2:Listen it's the same thing in Toronto. At what point does the Shanna plan? I mean, mike Babcock stood up there with Shanahan and said there's going to be pain, and there was that first year, and they finished last, and they got Austin Matthews and they began the climb, chris, that's eight years ago, like at some point the buck has to stop with those guys. And I'll tell you what, though it doesn't they, they've, they're, they're tepuan for so long.
Speaker 2:And the perfect analogy is in montreal, with ronald corey, who, systematically, is the man that's responsible for the decimation of that franchise, at least in the modern era as we know it, because the patrick was scenario doesn't happen if core Corey doesn't go back into the 1970s. Well, which he did repeatedly to try and save his ass with behind the bench, with the quick coach bump and whatnot. And he hires Mario Tremblay, who was the antichrist to Patrick Waugh. And we all know what happened December 2nd 95, and then, three days later, to the trade, notwithstanding a few moments where the roller coaster was going up in the Bob Ganey era. And then, you know, carey Price came along and almost single-handedly dragged them into success. But at the end of the day, ron Corey, Even almost.
Speaker 2:Did he not? Well, they didn't win a cup, but they got a final and they got two trips in the semis, so three in total in the price area, even though Yaroslav Alak was carrying the mail in 2010. However, kerry was there. No-transcript. These presidents can hang around a long time before they fall out. Look at Mike Milbury on the island. And he wasn't even actually, although he wore all the hats because Wang was overseas. So Milbury just wore all the hats and just ran that organization with full autonomy. How'd that go?
Speaker 1:Well, because there was no Wang.
Speaker 2:You still got it. Well, you know what?
Speaker 1:It's very cheap. But you know what, Anytime you can say Wang and it's not like filthy you can say it.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:And then you can use the double entendre of what Wang could be. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Neely should be gone and Shanahan should be gone. And when both those teams fail this year and they will Boston is going to be tooth and nail to should be gone. And when both those teams fail this year and they will Boston is going to be tooth and nail to make the playoffs. They're going to be absolutely tooth and nail.
Speaker 1:Well, they're going to have to pick up their socks, that's for sure. Yeah, now big win last night.
Speaker 2:Big third period Marchand gets a couple. You know they kind of look like the Bruins of yesteryear being the last year or two last night. It's just so crazy in that Atlantic right now.
Speaker 1:Well, it is and it's so, like you were saying, it is very, very tight, but Ottawa cruising in at the bottom with Montreal.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah.
Speaker 2:The Habs are last.
Speaker 1:And Ottawa's second last.
Speaker 2:Ottawa's second last in the Atlantic, but there's nine points separating first and eighth. Yeah, you know what? Here's the in the Atlantic and but there's nine points separating first and eighth, yeah, you know, I mean, you know what?
Speaker 1:here's the thing I would feel much more comfortable if Ottawa was, I mean, and, and, and I am an Ottawa fan, just so, I'm an Ottawa fan as well, and not just Boston. And, and I'll be honest with you, I think, only because this is my hometown and I love it. If there was a, and it couldn't happen. But if there was a Boston-Ottawa run up, right, okay, what do you mean? Well, if there was a cup, right, they couldn't, they can't compete for the cup, no, but if it's, them, and they won't compete as the finals in the East because they're two different divisions. So it's early on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're in the same division, so they would meet. Even if somebody got the wild card, they'd come back and would meet, probably second round.
Speaker 1:Right. So they're not going to get to that end point is my point. Okay, yeah, yeah, In the early series of course I'm going with my team, but if it was a later series, I'd be thinking I really want Ottawa to win a cup, Sure. Yeah, you know what I mean. It was a later series, I'd be thinking I really want Ottawa to win a cup, Sure.
Speaker 2:You know what I?
Speaker 1:mean, and I would choose to cheer for Ottawa over Boston, because, perish the thought, I know, like you would never do that with the Canadians. No, I know. So I am. I am I bad? I'm a bad person.
Speaker 2:No, you're, you're, you're. 40 of the fans here switched between 92 and, say, 2000. That were hardcore leaf and hab fans became sans fans yeah, well, you know exactly.
Speaker 1:So I really do want to see the sans win a cup. I, I do, and I you know what, and I say that I'm hoping mr and lauer fucking makes things happen for that. Now let let's move on. Let's talk about another big event, a big, big big event coming up in February. What is it? That's the Group of Seven getting together to do some more artwork. No, it's the International Cup, the Canada Cup the. World Forum of. Hockey, what are we calling?
Speaker 2:it Four Nation.
Speaker 1:Oh, the Four Nations. I can't keep up with all the fucking names.
Speaker 2:There's not that many.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:There's not that many, but yeah, the Four Nation is coming fast and we're getting a snippet of information that's being released here on the rosters and, of course, everybody of the four nations that being Sweden, finland, the States and us have named their starting six. So the rosters I think they're supposed to be filled out.
Speaker 1:So starting six do you have? Do you know them? I don't know them all.
Speaker 2:I know it's uh marshall, crosby, mcdavid, braden, point and um kale, mccarr, yeah, and mckinnon. So I believe those are the six for canada and and uh, I don't know the other teams, the other starting six and frankly, we don't care. But it's going to be a quick week. It's a round robin Everybody plays everybody once.
Speaker 1:Right, and then they go into the head of this.
Speaker 2:And they're taking the top two teams.
Speaker 1:Just the top two.
Speaker 2:Just the top two for a one-shot winner-take-all, because it's not a sanctioned event. It's a precursor, because the NHL players are going back to the Olympics in 2026. We haven't had a best on best since the World Cup in 2016, which is eight years ago, so it's the last time that there's been any type of best on best. So this will be coming into nine years, because it'll be 2025.
Speaker 1:Do you think that the Canada Cup is dead now that the Olympics has taken over?
Speaker 2:Really no, I don't. I do think. Well, first of all, the Canada Cup, by name, of course, is dead. Well, yeah, I know, but no, the World Cup will be back. It will be back. Yeah, I believe, at least as long as Gary Bettman and Bill Daley and all are in charge, that they want to have a best-on-best tournament under NHL rules. They don't want to have a tournament on the big ice, they don't want to have a tournament in a country that maybe is just has. The hockey is just another one of many sports.
Speaker 1:As opposed to the United States.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I mean the point is. I'm talking about who's hosting Right, because in Torino in 06, not only did we get brutal times during the day where you're taking world-class athletes who are paid professionals.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're talking about the Olympics now. Yeah, the Olympics, okay.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about the Olympics, and this is going to seem hypocritical because the athletes who compete in any sport right have worked their ass off to get there absolutely and whether they're diving off a board or running in a track or doing whatever, and the thing is they're probably more accustomed to it.
Speaker 2:you're taking pros and it's a big cachet to have these guys there. It adds all this value to the five rings of deceit and lie and bribery and whatever else they stand for, and it's supposed to be a big deal and you put us on shit ice with holes in it and everything else. The ice in Torino was garbage. That's not why we lost. But regardless, fact is is that no, the World Cup is definitely going to survive.
Speaker 2:Because I think Gary Bettman and the Board of Governors and the Players Association, who get a much bigger, they're getting nothing going in the Olympics Right, so they want to go there. You want to march in.
Speaker 1:Well, you want to go and you want to win a gold medal for your country.
Speaker 2:For sure. You want to be proud of where you come from and you know what?
Speaker 1:And you want to get that phone call from Justin Trudeau to tell you yeah, how proud he is well guess what he?
Speaker 2:won't be making the next call in 2026 because he won't be our prime minister, but the. The fact is that, uh, that's why they did the four nation. It's replacing the all-star game. I believe the all-star game's been nixed for this Four nations coming in, chris, and you know what? And we just had the CHL play team USA. This is a first time ever. This is going to become the. Ushl. They played the, the, the, so it's the it's who's ever eligible for this year's draft.
Speaker 1:Right, okay. So you could take whatever player you wanted from wherever, from wherever, so even within colleges and everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, they had to be eligible for this year's draft and that's who formed the United States team and we took our best from the CHL, the Canadian Hockey League, which is the three leagues, as we know. Yeah, and we absolutely mopped the floor with them. Yeah, I mean, last night's score was close, only because they started shit. After every whistle they're wearing full visors and cages, which I'm sure if you went to any one of those kids because they're u18.
Speaker 1:I know I understand well, they're not u18.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no, no, well, they're u18. They're turning 18 this year but they wouldn't be able to play in a u18 tourney because all of these kids would have birth years that would make them ill eligible for.
Speaker 1:U18.
Speaker 2:It's the best prospects who are going to get drafted in this year's draft, chris, so it's a notch above.
Speaker 1:U18.
Speaker 2:It's more like a world junior.
Speaker 1:Right, but not the world juniors.
Speaker 2:No, because the Canadian team will look a little bit different, as will the Americans.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because they will have.
Speaker 1:Are you excited about the World Junior?
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, it's in Ottawa.
Speaker 1:I know, I know I'm not going to be here.
Speaker 2:Where are you going to be now?
Speaker 1:I'm going to be in Florida.
Speaker 2:Oh geez.
Speaker 1:And then I'm going to Arizona.
Speaker 2:Of course, so I'm missing it. Well, that sucks. It sucks to be you, buddy.
Speaker 1:The problem is is I have children in all these places and it's you know.
Speaker 2:And some you don't even know about.
Speaker 1:That's right, yeah, that's right. Yeah, here's the thing I'm going to. I'm going to be frank, frank who there are no children that I'm not aware of, because no other woman from my wife has been attracted to me for for hundreds of years. Okay, people say to me for hundreds of years. Okay, people say to me, I go to Palm Springs and Palm Springs is a big gay community there, and then people go doesn't that bother you? I was like no, like I've yet to be hit on, they have yet to find me attractive. So I got nothing to worry about. So there is a bonus to being an ugly person.
Speaker 2:Right, okay, well, I know all about it. Face the radio right here for 100 years.
Speaker 1:So you know what? And that's that's the thing. So, okay, we have other things to talk about. Yeah, uh, what else was the other things?
Speaker 2:anyway, just a quick wrap up on, uh uh, the four nation oh, yeah, it is is going to be.
Speaker 2:I think it's going to be outstanding hockey. Uh, the venues are montreal and boston, yeah, and I think it's just going to be. It's going to give us wet our appetite. As I said, we've had nothing for eight years. It's, it's going to be fantastic. Yeah, what we saw last night, the last 48 hours here as we tape this, the chl, um, I think that was just, uh, that was an absolute beat down scores close last night because they scrummed after every whistle. They had nothing. We outshot them a billion to nothing. They hung around.
Speaker 1:Maybe they're going to pull a Herb Brooks thing and he's going to go back and skate them. They'll look a lot like Kurt Russell.
Speaker 2:They'll be formidable in the World Juniors. They always are. I think I'll finish on this note. We continue this. We're 52 years since Henderson. I think I'll finish on this note. I just we have. We continue this. You know, we're 52 years since Henderson and we continue to dominate the hockey landscape. In fact, chris, in the U-17s, where we have three teams, in the U-17 championship, world championship, we put three teams in and for the first time since 2009, two Canadian teams faced each other in the final. Like, we continue to produce top end talent. There's some kids coming and I don't know if you saw that uh, that sends game last night, but celebrini isn't he, he's the real freaking deal and this is not your eric carlson san jose sharks, by the way.
Speaker 2:I know I know there are four or five games under 500 right now. Look where they were the last two years, the last three years, when they when they had to just prop up that floater and let him get his 100 points. This is not that team. These guys were full measure for what they did to ottawa on the ice last night. They just came out on the wrong end of the score, but that was an amazing game and, from a San Jose point of view and Salah Greeny is unfreaking, believable he's eligible to play in the World Junior this year?
Speaker 2:Oh no, he's only 18 years old, he's not going to go.
Speaker 2:He's 19 years old, conor Bedard is eligible, not going to be released. This is my point In a perfect world and Liam McGuire's utopia for international hockey. You want to talk about wedding or appetite? You sign the deal and the World Juniors every year, chris would be, because the World Juniors, we call it the World Juniors. In Europe, the WIHF is called U20. It's supposed to be the best 19-year-olds, so that all the best, and there's tons of good Americans, swedes, I don't know. Let the Russians back in at some point. This thing with Ukraine is going to go until the day we die.
Speaker 1:Well, here's the thing it's penalizing young people, athletes that have really no connection with the politics. Yeah, okay, I actually completely disagree with it. I I think that the within, I think you keep politics and sports out of it. Uh, you know what I mean? And at the end of the these are just kids, they're just all they want to do is play hockey. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's ridiculous and I, and I know that, I know he's got putin on his uh speed dial there and whatnot and that's you know, but anyway ovi's beloved anyway.
Speaker 2:Right now, yeah, with a broken bone in the tibia, I know let's see how he comes back from that.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what? And did you see the scrap after? Like Wilson, oh yeah. But you know what? I really thought it was classy of Wilson to say you know, I had to do something. I had to stand up for my player because I know it wasn't on purpose, but I had to stand up for my player and the guy answered the bell and I thought you know, nowhere else do you get that kind of respect. I mean, wilson's got his issues, but you get that kind of respect.
Speaker 1:Other than the sport of hockey, other than hockey?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's great yeah, because sometimes the other guy who's in the scrap just goes yeah, yeah, I got to go here. Yeah, I got to hockey Other than hockey. Yeah, yeah, it's great. Yeah, cause it is sometimes the other guy who's in the scrap just knows yeah, yeah, I got to go here. Yeah, I got to go. Yeah, exactly, I got to give a fight. We're going to go. Yeah, yeah, we're going. We're going, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, you know what I mean. And then turtle oh no, it's not about up to sentence again.
Speaker 2:Well, you got to mention Gaudette, that's what I was going to say. That's the story in the NHL. I mean because he's come out of left field. Yeah, he's 28 years old. This is his second stint with Ottawa. Does anybody even remember when he was here? No, I mean, I barely do, and I watch it closely and and he was here, he played 50 games. He scored four goals, or five goals.
Speaker 1:I knew him when he was actually before he was Gaudette. He changed his name he used to be Goddamn and now he's Gaudette. It's a little bit silly to say Almost.
Speaker 2:I almost spit it out. And that is to swallow it, the last thing I want to do is spit out most of the next four to hell.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Gaudette. Right now is the story.
Speaker 1:Now he's playing on that line scores two last night, including a winner with less than five to go and, and two the other night.
Speaker 2:Uh yeah, stutzla is really the story of ottawa right now, though, in terms of I mean, he is, it's unbelievable. Right now, it's the best I've ever seen him play and and, uh, you know, they just need jake to get back to where he was last year. It's amazing, hey, sophomore year. Sometimes, well, conor bernard in chicago is kind of you know, they just need Jake to get back to where he was last year. It's amazing, eh, sophomore year sometimes.
Speaker 1:Wow, Conor Bernard in Chicago is kind, of you know he just scored his fourth goal the other night.
Speaker 2:He's got a net goal of assists. Yeah, I think he's at 17 or 18 points. He's just under a point a game still, but but Gaudette's a story, I think, right now. I mean yes, yes, martin neskash, leading the league in scoring. Might you know his camp?
Speaker 2:they have something to say about that, but I think that's just a phenomenal story this guy drafted by vancouver, I mean he he's bounced around like all previously in ottawa yeah, you know, leaves comes back. I think a free agent signed in july, this past july, yeah and they put him on the big line and he's, and he's, and he's taken off. He played okay in Vancouver. We haven't seen any of this. My only point in all this is he's back wearing a sweater number with an eight in it, because he obviously he always previously wore 88 until he was here in Ottawa the first time around he wore 17, for whatever reason.
Speaker 2:Maybe he thought right oh well, you know I'll get rid of that number. I'm not Eric Lindros who do they think I am, or whatever and so he goes to a regular number. Now he's back, he's wearing 81 and he's tearing it up. I'm not saying, you know whatever, I'm not trying to be Phil Esposito here in the 70s, right, but at the end of the day, with the Rangers, but at the end of the day. Gaudet, I think is a hell and uh I was, you know what I gotta tell you the um game's fast.
Speaker 2:Eh oh it is.
Speaker 1:It's a freak unbelievable and we watch all the time, I know. But you know what you don't get the same perspective like, and this is what I, why I do love going to the rink okay, even though I don't like to go because they don't accept cash, okay, but I love going to the rink because you get that perspective on the speed. You don't get that on TV. You don't get the true perspective of that. I mean, I'll be honest with you, I don't think I can skate with these guys.
Speaker 2:Oh come on, don't be foolish, you can put your skates on and go out and take a stride? No, exactly you wouldn't actually say be stride for stride with them. No, yeah, but I mean they'd be striding and you'd be striding.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, you know what that puck moves so fast yeah it's ever been faster.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm, you know, ultimately impressed by these young guys, because they're young. Like they're young, like they're young guys, right, how quickly they move the puck and the decision-making right. Yeah, like you know. So it's funny. A guy says to me he goes, you know what? It's just amazing. I love the way you slow down, you get the puck and then you slow down the game and then you can do it Okay, which is kind of like I have to, right, but I do.
Speaker 1:I've always had that ability to find time and space and to take a look around and do that. But I'll tell you, these guys don't have any fucking time. They've got to know what's going on all the time and the amount of collisions and things that are avoided by the fact that these guys are just tuned. They are in top shape mentally and physically. Don't ever say that a hockey player is stupid because they are not. They have great executive function. You don't get to be an elite hockey player without extreme executive function. And you know what? Maybe some of them ain't good with the book learning, but they're fast, they're quick and that's why I will always take an elite hockey player. If I was hiring for something, yeah, I would pick an elite hockey player, even, you know uh, a fighter, even a guy who, but you know even something like to to be there drop them down a league and watch them score 20 goals, exactly.
Speaker 2:That's. That's the top of the energy list.
Speaker 1:And I'm talking about in business, in hiring, because they have the skills that can transfer. They've got it here. They may not have the application of it of certain areas, but they'll get it. I guarantee you that. You know what I'd like to see. I would like to see the next or maybe the next next prime minister of Canada be an someone with passion. I'd love that. Wouldn't that be great, Just to be like, Mr Speaker. It's go time.
Speaker 2:Look across the walkway here. What do they call it?
Speaker 1:The aisle, yeah, the aisle, across the aisle. The floor of the House of Commons, the floor of the House of Commons.
Speaker 2:Call out somebody.
Speaker 1:We're going yeah, and you know what, and you know it would be hockey jargon, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Ah, your mother's. You know what I mean. Like you'd be calling hey, I fucked your mother last night. And Justin would be like oh, another guy fucked my mother, not just Castro. Sorry, I'll probably edit that part out, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Maybe you should.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing Saying that Justin Trudeau is the illegitimate son of Fidel Castro. I have no proof of that. We have no proof. We have no proof. We have no DNA. I think what he should do is take a DNA sample and fucking put that whole rumor to bed right away. Yeah, put it to bed right away. Yeah, right, like, put it to bed right away.
Speaker 2:Well listen, I mean this this time, uh, next year you'll be working in a library or something, somewhere, so you know no, you've worked in a lot.
Speaker 1:You know how much money this guy has got overseas in some foreign account. Okay, Liam has gone overboard again. I've had to edit. Okay, well, that's the end of our thing. We should talk about the hockey pool. Except I haven't even paid attention to it this past week.
Speaker 2:I haven't either in terms of the overall leader. I don't know if the Goon Squad is still.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what, let me check, I can do this live and then I can edit it out. Okay, and I'll pretend, well, I'm not going to edit this part out, but I'll pretend I'll come back. I'll cut it and then I'll come back. Well, I just happen to remember, you know. Anyways, I'll just, it's the magic of editing, ta-da. Okay, we're back. Perfect, perfect, uh, oh, so. So the goon squad still in the lead. Okay, addle is kicking ass. Like you wouldn't believe.
Speaker 1:Like addle, you're very impressed, very, very smart man cto, cto, former cto, or maybe he still is of bell, like he's, like that. We're talking like crazy smart, like you know still is of Bell, Like he's, like that we're talking like crazy smart, like you know, still is, you think? Yeah, I think he's still with Bell, but he was the CTO for a long time, right? And then we have, in second place, wayne's World, who you know what? I forget exactly who that is.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, and then Chuck, chuck hanging around, okay, okay, and then Chuck. Chuck hanging around A close third Awesome, like he's there and you know what. And listen, I would love to see Adil win, yeah, and I would love to see Chuck win, yeah, and I don't know, I can't recall who Wayne's World is yeah, and I'd like to see him win too, yeah. I mean, I like all people, but uh, whoever wins wins, yeah, but you know what?
Speaker 2:because of what happened last year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'd like to see chuck, you know, because chuck was right in. He was right right to the end. Oh, hey, by the way, so the guys, so people don't know this. So part of the trip, air canada fucked up and they missed the flight. Some guys missed the whole day. Okay, so air canada finally comes back and they missed the flight. Some guys missed the whole day. Okay, so Air Canada finally comes back and they gave them the mandatory $1,000 refund or whatever.
Speaker 1:Absolutely so did the guy who actually won our trip. Who didn't? He got the free trip and $1,000 spending money.
Speaker 2:Did he? Yeah, fucking believable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, yeah, so, yeah. So he got. So now we can say our trip was a trip to Ireland and a thousand dollars spending money, woo so. But you know what? I haven't talked to him since. I did say that's wonderful, and I heard all about it.
Speaker 2:I am expecting a fucking gigantic Christmas gift from him wow, that's all I'm saying well, minimally, uh, a 40 pounder or something that we could take a few shots out of I think, so you know, yeah, yeah, I mean, that would be, uh, that would be probably appropriate, and I bet you he'd probably happily spring for that I think so. I I think so, I want to give a shout out to uh hosey and brown hosey and brown.
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Speaker 2:And so a little irony there. But you know, if there was something significant on September I should say November 28th it would be Billy Smith. Billy Smith was awarded a goal. Oh, I remember that In NHL history 1979, november 28th, playing against Colorado, rob Ramage shot the puck the length of the ice, took video replay after to confirm the last Islander it touched was Billy. So he was awarded a goal. So there's a couple of November 28th items brought to you by Shoeless Joes and my buddy Jeff Underhill, and you will get.
Speaker 1:All right, all right, I just want to make sure that's all I got to handle the business side of this thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, that's right, yeah, okay. I have some money for you, by the way, do we have any more. I spent some of it Okay.
Speaker 1:Do we have any more? Okay, do we have any? Oh, okay, do we have any more sponsors? Check one two yeah, okay, hang on I'm gonna cut back.
Speaker 2:So do we have any more sponsors?
Speaker 1:I'm working on a couple okay, so if, if by chance, you're the one person who has stayed on to the end of this broadcast okay, by the time you edit it, you're going to take 15 minutes out of it? Absolutely yeah, but if you're still around, we still do need what do you call it? Sponsors? Yeah, yeah, we need some sponsors to make this. Here's the thing this is the greatest fucking podcast webcast in all of fucking hockey history. Okay, and yet you know, know, we got nothing pretty tough to beat.
Speaker 2:Uh, biz fighting six guys. Do you know what that's? That's tough to.
Speaker 1:I've fucking done the same thing. Yeah, oh yeah. In in my kids school I took on fucking nine kids. Yeah, yeah, no, you know what? Here's the thing I did. See that I thought it was great. Actually, where did that happen? I'm not sure where. Location.
Speaker 2:I don't either, Well Arizona somewhere Was it Okay.
Speaker 1:So here's what I say, and this is what Probably someplace you could be at here Could be Well, so is he in Arizona, I think so. So here's the thing. Oh, so here's the thing. Oh, by the way, someone said to me Chris, you know, you say listen, and here's the thing. All the time.
Speaker 2:I know you do. Here's the thing. It's definitely part of your. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing Big. The sheriff in Maricopa County, okay, and the sheriff's department, have encouraged people to go out and buy a gun. Oh, and they've cut the sales tax on buying your first gun, not your second.
Speaker 2:Oh, but your first gun, oh well so they should.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:For that kid who's struggling at 14 or 15, he doesn't have that, but it's kind of what Trudeau's doing with the HST.
Speaker 1:Yeah so, but okay, so, for the first gun, and they've said, and we encourage you to use it, somebody comes on your property that you don't want or somebody is trying to assault you, use the gun. We are not going to charge you. So I say, biz, you need to get a gun because the next fucking guys might have. You know what I mean. And then you get to say I shot six men in Arizona while I was the sheriff or whatever, like the. You know what I mean Arizona, they weren't in tombstone exactly. So, anyhow, that's what I'm saying. Just a little bit of advice for for him, I don't know, I've never met him right, so I I could never met him either.
Speaker 2:But I exchanged some some uh emails, uh with him a couple of years ago on on uh some stuff and and but I've, I've never actually met him.
Speaker 1:Oh really I've never actually met him. No, okay, no, well, I, I, yeah. So I don't know the guy, I just know him from the show like, from his podcast, which I support wholeheartedly. I even buy the like, I bought the pink whitney, yeah stuff, and we said, you know, try to do the support of other fledgling podcasts. Yeah Right, you know what I mean. So I'm waiting for the shout out to me Okay, biz, that's what I'm saying. You know, here's the thing. This has been Offside with Haas McGuire. I'm Haas, I'm out of beer, it'sas.
Speaker 2:McGuire, I'm Haas, I'm out of beer. It's all, mcguire G'day.
