Offside with Hawes and Maguire
Offside: with Hawes and Maguire is not your typical hockey show. This weekly
45-60 minute show is a potent combination of humour and genuine hockey insights that pushes the envelope.
- Liam is renowned for his photographic memory, lively storytelling, vast hockey knowledge and sometimes over-the-top passion for the game of hockey.
- Chris is known for his unrehearsed humour, contagious laughter and uncanny ability to make even the most serious debates end in boisterous guffaws.
Between the two, there is an infectious enthusiasm and professional chemistry that is evident from the outset. It can only be described as lightning in a bottle.
Offside with Hawes and Maguire
Hockey Hilarity and Controversy: Legends Tours and McDavid's Conundrum
Who would have thought a hockey tour could turn into a hilarious adventure filled with historical debates and cultural insights? Join us as we recount Liam's escapades with Steve Walton's Legends of Hockey tours, where we explored everything from the icy landscapes of Newfoundland to the contested birthplace of hockey in Nova Scotia. Expect tales of Irish roots, legendary stops, and even a sneak peek into our upcoming trips to Ireland. And if you're curious about prizes and logistics, we've got some exciting news about our Hosie and Brown Hockey Pool, with a surprising twist that might just land you on a trip to PEI.
Ever wondered what happens when the NHL's brightest star gets caught in controversy? We dive headfirst into the buzz surrounding Connor McDavid's suspension and its ripple effects across the league. Reminiscing about the gritty days of enforcers like Dave Semenko, we debate whether the NHL is striking the right balance between protecting its superstars and maintaining the game's fairness. Hear our thoughts on why the league needs to step up against dirty plays and how past management missteps, like those from Mike Milbury, continue to haunt the NHL's evolution.
Language, locker rooms, and lingering standings round out our conversation as we navigate the colorful world of hockey culture. From the evolution of locker room talk to the current dynamics in teams like the Ottawa Senators, there's plenty to unpack. And why are our hockey pool standings as stagnant as a pond in winter? We muse on introducing playful tariffs and praise standout player Adel, promising more updates as we move forward. Get ready for a mix of wit, nostalgia, and insights as we tackle the quirks of our beloved sport.
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Speaker 2:It's been a long time. It's been a long time.
Speaker 1:As a matter of fact, my hair is now gray. You're a new man. It's unbelievable, damn it's unbelievable, and Lost some weight. Yeah, yeah, I found it actually. I lost, then I found it.
Speaker 1:It's actually just been redistributed so yeah, um, so we have a lot to go. So much, okay. So the first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to ask you you were out east, yeah, okay, and you were, uh, you were with a, a bunch of guys, bunch of guys uh playing hockey, doing some uh trivia stuff, doing the, the, the emceeing piece of that. So tell us about that experience where you went, all that stuff like that, and you know what I mean, and any, any juicy stories.
Speaker 2:You know what? Uh, the juicy stories. There was nothing too, too, too, too crazy. I mean late nights drinking. Some of the guys go a little hard still. I try, of course, to get them to crash early, you know. So everyone's fresh the next day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely yeah.
Speaker 2:But it's just fantastic. I started this last year with Steve Walton, the legends of hockey out of St John, new Brunswick. He runs the operation and sets these up. I did three tours, I think, with him. Last year we went from Newfoundland, st Pierre Michelon all the way to Alaska and Whitehorse and this year this is my second one with him and we've got a third one booked. It's going to be spectacular coming up in late March.
Speaker 1:I've got to sandwich that around a quick jaunt down to.
Speaker 2:Philadelphia for Friday night fights. So where are you going in March? In March we're going right back to Newfoundland, man, really Back on the rock, st John and Marystown and possibly another town, and then we're back in New Brunswick and Florenceville, I believe.
Speaker 1:You're home of the McCain family.
Speaker 2:Yes, the McCain family, that's right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's where they make all the chips.
Speaker 2:That's right. So I've never been there. But we have hit New Brunswick pretty good. We've hit a lot of towns there, as we just did Newfoundland. So we started in Nova Scotia. We were four days in the Windsor area.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, yeah, home of.
Speaker 2:Long Pond, where the birthplace of hockey. I mean it's, Some would argue, Some would argue the documentation. There's no documentation that's been ever unearthed anyway, that's older than an 1810 reference of hurling on ice.
Speaker 1:Hurling on ice. Hurling on ice, that's right.
Speaker 2:On Long Pond. They refer to it as hurling.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what hurling is? Yes, of course it's Irish.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. It's the origin of it all. It was the immigrants that were coming at that time, mixed with the natives. From their lacrosse, was the forerunner of hockey. Eventually the ball, because it bounced, they cut the edges off and that was the origin of the first puck and the game evolved from there. Look, there's no doubt the first game with rules of some sort played with a time period although the game was called because of a brawl, but was in 1875 in Montreal that's documented as well where a game was played in an arena, but the origin, on ice, with a stick playing something that resembled hockey, was in Long Pond.
Speaker 1:Kingston and.
Speaker 2:Montreal's claims. They just don't go back as far.
Speaker 1:That's documented Well and you know what I will say this we owe it to the Irish, that's right. We owe it to the as far, that's documented. Well, and you know what I will say this we owe it to the Irish, that's right. We owe it to the Irish, that's right.
Speaker 2:Somehow they're the basis of the genesis really of so much that's gone right in the world, absolutely Okay, especially our trip to Ireland, that's right. Last year that was pretty epic, that's right another one.
Speaker 1:I'm going again. I've got it I know you're right around the corner and, yeah, in may, and then another one in september, september, september, and uh, and then then and I've already got guys for september 2026 wow, I actually have more guys for september 2026.
Speaker 2:Well, that one I I may try and become a part of again somehow some way 2025 this year.
Speaker 1:What's the matter with that?
Speaker 2:I don't, well, I certainly can't make may no, yeah, that's done, that's closed off yeah, just so if anybody wants to know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're not accepting anybody else?
Speaker 2:yeah, to go in in may but well, the winner of our hosier brown hockey pool this year goes they go to pi, that's right. So are we going with them or no?
Speaker 1:okay, no, we can't afford that, all right yeah, sorry mean that's to be honest, Unless, of course, you know somebody wants to cover that.
Speaker 2:No, no, hey, listen, I didn't know what was what I want to go. It's the winner and a partner, though, right?
Speaker 1:It's a winner and, you know, a guest Maybe shouldn't. Yeah, well, you're kind of running logistically, technically it is. Uh, it was for two, okay, yeah, um, but we're, you know, uh, there's some logistical issues, yeah, okay, and so what I'm hoping is it's a winner and, um, uh, and on the way he and his wife a giant fight and they turn around, come home oh, I see you know, when we get a refund, and it's just, that's all works up so so, but other than that, because we're like, this is the the most unlucrative podcast in the history of podcasts, I bet you there's others that take in a whole lot less money than I probably do, you're right, I mean you and I did okay last year.
Speaker 2:Okay, we got to Florida for a week.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, absolutely.
Speaker 2:And we got to Ireland and I think we did pretty damn good compared to a lot of people who are just sitting in their basement, as we are here kind of, and banging something out and hoping they get a few followers.
Speaker 1:It's not the first thing you banged in a basement.
Speaker 2:No, it's true.
Speaker 1:So okay.
Speaker 2:My trip was outstanding 10 days, four days, uh, nova scotia five days newfoundland. A day in labrador took the ferry across. Uh, we had a game, the boys had a game in saint paul, saint paul's river, labrador. They had guys on the other team coming on sleds, uh, from towns that have no roads right, no roads in yeah so it's it.
Speaker 2:So it's a different look at our vast, expansive and incredibly unique country to see where you can go just a few hours in a plane, travel a few hours by car, take a ferry into parts of the country where people live like that. They're living off the land man, they work in the bush or they work on the water and primarily those are the occupations for a lot of the places that we were in Newfoundland.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And you know Nova Scotia a little bit different.
Speaker 1:Well, sadly, the fishery's done, though. There's no fishery left, and that was a I mean, and I know my grandpa Well, there's still fishing, but I mean no, but there's no fishery.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's no fishery, there's no fishery.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's an unfortunate situation for the folks in Newfoundland, Yet there's still like people who are like fishing out the freaking Grand Banks. We can't but.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't. You know more about that than I do, and uh, who knows, we're gonna have a new prime minister shortly and and things you think?
Speaker 2:oh, I don't think I know. This calendar year we're getting a new prime minister and it's, it's, uh it. Who knows what the future holds. You know, maybe some things change, but all I know is they're they're pretty happy people, certainly the ones we encountered and and they're resilient and they can play good hockey. These guys all grew up playing hockey and everywhere we went, the experience through the sport of hockey was second to none. It was just an outstanding trip. Steve Walton, ryan Mugford, you know, they just do an outstanding job putting this together. Can't wait for the next one and more to come down the road. I'm just thankful to be a part of it. It's, it's a very, very unique thing, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to get to to get to do this type of travel, um, even though a lot of it in this case here was on the roadways, as opposed to flying thousands of miles. We did a lot of driving, but at the end of the day, uh, you're with day, you're with the boys.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, and you know what?
Speaker 2:There's nothing like being on the bus right, no, we had a school bus, oh, school bus. In Labrador we had a school bus. We were in SUVs really to get us around most of Newfoundland.
Speaker 2:So, we broke into smaller groups and drove that way. It would be ultra expensive to put a bus for the type of travel that we had to do over the the length of time that we did. But we got to Deer Lake, saw Darren Langdon, you know these other towns, springdale, roddickton, just you know, just just central part of Newfoundland or northern parts of Newfoundland. Even people who I know who are from Newfoundland say look, we don't go there, we don't get there.
Speaker 2:It's hundreds of miles from where we grew up and there would be no reason to. And yet we had this opportunity thanks to going to play these games. Cbc Newfoundland showed up at the Roddington game. You couldn't shoehorn another person in their barn and it was. They interviewed the guys. I was going in the dressing room telling Bernie Nichols and the Sutter boys CBC won an interview man. I think they were going. Oh, that's like hockey night in Canada.
Speaker 1:It's like old times, but you know it's pretty cool to watch.
Speaker 2:I never really worked at the Sutter Brothers. We've all heard the name. There's six of them. I had occasion to work with three of them on this particular tour the twins Rich and Ron, and Dwayne, multiple Stanley Cup winner with the Islanders.
Speaker 1:His actual name is Wayne. He added the duh himself.
Speaker 2:I'll let you tell him that, yeah, they come by their reputation honestly by the way. And Darian Hatcher. I mean it's an outstanding, outstanding football. Darian Hatcher's, an American though Darian Hatcher was our token American.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:Chris Nyland was home with pneumonia.
Speaker 1:So we didn't have him, but we had.
Speaker 2:Darian Hatcher was our token American. Yeah, chris Nyland was home with pneumonia. Okay, so we didn't have him, but we had Darian Hatcher, the first American to captain a Stanley Cup winning team in Dallas in 99. Yeah, he's just a beauty and, as, whenever him and I go into the uh, go into a, a pub, a bar, a restaurant or something, if there's a chance to get a larger beer draft or whatever- right we're all.
Speaker 2:We're always the two guys that are that are drinking the 32 ouncers. So it's uh, it's just a treat, man just treat to be around these guys.
Speaker 2:You know how much I love the history of the game with these guys all provided for all of us, not just me and you, but anybody who's a fan of the nhl from days gone by. Brian's groogling, you know, and I like, like I said, like I wrote in the thing, you've got stanley cup winners, olympic gold, uh, world cup, memorial cup, nhl record holders, 70 goal scorers. I mean, this was on the trip and these are just a bunch of guys.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I'll get this guy, that, that guy. You put them all together you end up with 6,246 games, 2,897 points and 9,009 penalty minutes Really In the group. So, of course, love that, and the games got a little chippy at times, really.
Speaker 1:So we spread up Kasperaitis'. Oh yeah, oh, there's another. So Kasperaitis was there.
Speaker 2:Non-Canadian, but a guy who fits right in in any type of that environment.
Speaker 1:He's just a blast. He doesn't have any reputation for hitting people at all. He hits somebody every game, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he had some words with one of the young lads there in Roddington at the face-off. It was a couple of rough shifts, both games, even St Paul's River um, that game got chippy. Uh, springdale a little bit roddington, for sure, really, yeah, yeah it got chippy. These guys are out there. You know, it's the only way they really know how to play on the rock. I think, right, they're, they're gonna get it, they're gonna have a little edge, like the game outdoor in st paul's river when it started getting chippy. These guys are coming back to the bench.
Speaker 2:They were loving it like the casperitis hit a couple and they were going. Did you see that? Man he hit me, did you see that, like they were coming back to the bench?
Speaker 2:they loved it, they loved it I mean, I don't think they would have liked to see him go full on no but you know I don't think you want hatcher at 6-5 going about 265 right now to really step india, but like at the same time, the experience for these guys, the reception from the people to see the guys who played in the NHL. It really, truly is something to see how much they take it to heart, being so ingrained with hockey, hockey Night in Canada and now, of course, on multiple channels, and we all know the broadcast and everything else. But so many of the people were our vintage.
Speaker 1:You know, give or take a decade, like the generations in and around us.
Speaker 2:Chris are our own and they grew up like United.
Speaker 1:You know what our vintage is known as. What is it Mid-century? Is it we're mid-century, like from the 50s and 60s?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's our mid-century. You, that's our mid-century. Okay, so we're actually styling, just so you know.
Speaker 2:And profiling yeah, Styling profiling.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2:Is that like?
Speaker 1:a, that's an online term.
Speaker 2:I don't know, probably. Yeah, I don't know. Okay, we're changing the subject. It was all good.
Speaker 1:It was all good, it was a great trip.
Speaker 2:No, we're coming up late March.
Speaker 1:A lot of things happening in the NHL, a lot of, I'm going to say, potential excitement, yeah, okay, but I want to ask you this, because we haven't had a chance to talk about this and I know this may be old news to people, but what do you think about the whole McDavid suspension, yeah, and the things that led up to that, Because you know what I got. To be honest with you, like I wish there was a fucking dave simenko around yeah right like, because that would solve a lot of problems it would for sure I.
Speaker 2:I think connor's been uh, right out of the gate. His first injury he had in his rookie season. That flyer defenseman, that was a cheap shot. As far as I'm concerned, this was ridiculous. He was mugged. Uh, they're trying to offer up a defense where you know he threw a punch himself. It's immaterial, he got absolutely mugged out there. Make the call, even if you think that they both should go off, he's still not going to end up with a three-game suspension. Exactly, the Oilers got lucky. I think they won two out of the three, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 1:So they kind of dodged that bullet. In terms of the standings, no, but his points totals, I mean, and the money doesn't matter. Well, he's been chasing McKinnon all season.
Speaker 2:But at the end of the day, those are three games you could afford to lose.
Speaker 1:if you are going to try and win another at-ross trophy, believe me, I think he'd pack all the individual awards, but at the end of the day, you also want to have and maybe this isn't the right word fairness in the league, and you're superstars, the Gretzky's of the era. They should not be manhandle's not the right word, but you know what? Anything that goes dirty against them needs to be fucking cracked down on. Yeah, and that's my issue. Or, all you're going to end up with is saying, okay, we need a few enforcers, we need a few enforcers. Next thing you know, you're back to the 1970s.
Speaker 2:Well, those days are never coming back and the enforcers aren't going out anymore, with the odd, rare exception that we might see a half dozen times over the course of the entire season where somebody will take it upon themselves to go out there, despite the instigator that they're probably going to receive. So it's 2, 5, and 10, if not more, depending on the severity of the retaliation. Couldn't end up with a suspension or whatever. You're just not seeing it. But the odd time that you do, it's few and far between, and it just like there hasn't really been a case, in my opinion, in the last 15 or 20 years, really since the Steve Moore incident, and that was so vicious that it basically ended his career.
Speaker 2:So I don't think anybody really wants to see that. What you'd like to see is somebody grab these guys and punch their lights out, because you're going after your star guy, which to your point was Semenko on Gretzky and to some extent LeFleur was protected To a larger extent. Mike Bossy was protected To a lesser extent Mario Lemieux was protected. But in and around all that you had wayne, who was very protected.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he certainly was looked after by a number of guys, definitely in his edmonton years so there's this, less so in la, but, but when you talk about you know, bossy, there's this fella who played for the islanders there. His name was clark gillies yeah okay, you know what? Some would call him a bit of a wussy. I wouldn't Right, okay. So then you talk about Le Fleur. You had fucking Bouchard, you had, and then you had the whole defensive core, yeah, the whole V-Core, that whole D-Core.
Speaker 2:There was not a.
Speaker 1:A chunk of the roster. There wasn't a guy under. I don't know if they're that big, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:They were big. In the 1970s Montreal did not have one defenseman under six foot. No other team could make that case. Neil Point was actually in stature the smallest guy, because their fourth or fifth guys were guys like Bill Nyrop and Rod Langway and Brian.
Speaker 1:Engball Rod Langway. Rod Langway, he's your sixth defenseman. Yeah, I mean, granted, he's an American, right, yeah, yeah, but isn't he in the US Hockey Hall of Fame?
Speaker 2:I believe he is yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, he was a he's in both he's in. You know, is he in our hall? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, he's in the main Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1:Is he really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm usually a rookie. You got some depth. Yeah, but you have some depth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they did Montreal had depth and they definitely had guys who were looking out for Guy. I mean, having said that, he still there's a famous photo of Montreal carrying a Stanley Cup around Boston Garden in 1978. And Guy is holding the ice pack to his face Like the Bruins still ran him mercilessly in that series. Mike Milbury threatened to kill him.
Speaker 1:You know you had lots going on because you know what would have been worse If Mike Milbury had drafted him?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he would have been terrible.
Speaker 1:Worst fucking GM in history in the NHL. Yeah, you could make the case. He was the worst GM in history. There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 2:At the end of the day. Look, if someone was going to take a gratuitous shot at Guy, then yes, the Habs are going to step in. They're really like for Gretzky. It went to another level.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:It went to another level because Guy fought a bit Like Guy stuck up for himself his first three years in the NHL. He was wearing a helmet, he had some scraps. He was a guy that was going to push back. If you gave it to him, he'd give you the stick. He took some penalty minutes. He wasn't a Lady Bing candidate, whereas Wayne won it five times, even though the first time was a joke. He shouldn't have won it, but they gave it to him as a LeFleur should have probably actually won it that year.
Speaker 2:Ironically, in 79-80, they should have given LeFleur probably the Lady Bing, but they gave it to Gretzky because they couldn't give him the call there.
Speaker 1:So let me ask you this have you seen the videos that are going I don't know what you call it, memes or whatever? It's Gretz on the bench with New York, with Mess. The captain Gretz is there and he's calling a guy. He calls him a cocksucker.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's a jerk you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:And he's just. He's just like you know hockey, talk right, bench talk. You know what I mean? Yeah, okay and so I'm there and I'm seeing this okay, and this uh person that I'm with, okay, uh is totally offended. They think it's the worst. Oh my God, how could you possibly? That's horrible, tom.
Speaker 2:So they're not familiar with the sport Not familiar with the sport, like they were.
Speaker 1:this was in the US, right, sure. So they're going on. That's horrible, yeah. And I said, well, it's not horrible. I mean, well, that's just not a, that's not a you can't call. I said, listen, the only time a guy's upset being called a cocksucker is if he is right. Okay, Like for most of us it's like, yeah, well, fuck you too Right, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Well, the last thing you want to do is have a microphone in even men's league dressing rooms. You know, I think it's a lot better than it used to be because various other slurs and things that were much more rampant. I think.
Speaker 1:I think cocksucker is one of the most used words. Well, I can tell you, rich Sutter.
Speaker 2:it's part of his literally his every sentence vocabulary almost, which it's to the point where it's quite funny, but he just drops it in like how's the weather today.
Speaker 1:Hey, exactly Cocksucker. Wow, I mean it's just you it is.
Speaker 2:It is what it is, and somebody is offended by that, so they don't know well, this is the thing.
Speaker 2:So listen, don't ever watch the brian trache one where he's going after brian bellows from the bench when he's with the pittsburgh penguins. If there's any youtube homework you want to take tonight, go on youtube, do the search brian trache, brian bellows and you and kevin stevens who's on the bench beside him, and it is hilarious, freaking, believable. What they say to bellows, what they call him and what they say to him is the way it was. Yes, it's not that way anymore.
Speaker 1:But I know you can't say those things anymore, but frankly, saying those things really helped you get things off your chest too. Right?
Speaker 2:well, there's an element of release for sure if you can just let that invective go yeah and just absolutely unload on a guy. You, you did feel a lot better and it might even just marginally take the edge off you wanting to go out there and cross check them right across the head, right you know?
Speaker 1:because so you, what I what you're saying is that we should have somebody tell mcdavid, call mcdavid at cocksucker, and they would not cross, I'm pretty sure he's used all sorts of language as well.
Speaker 2:There's no, there's no doubt in my mind, but that that should have been preventable by the officials yeah, that should have, should have been called and you clean all that up and it wasn't and as a result, he got the three games. They're still going to waltz into the playoffs Again. After a little bit of a wonky start, they've righted the ship. They look great Really. I don't think there's been another year where there has, but in recent memory. But this Stanley Cup is really up for grabs. I mean, florida are defending champs and they still will be hell in a cell to beat out. But there's two or three teams in the east. I'll tell you. You give me a healthy ottawa center lineup right now and they would. They would be tough out in the best of seven without pinto and norris. It's such a hole on their depth. Yeah, and it and it highlights some other weaknesses so you're telling me that Norris is injured?
Speaker 2:I know this just did, holy I know he said well, listen, we're going through it in Montreal with Goulet. I mean he he's he's decent sized guy, but he goes out and plays like he thinks he's Scott Stevens right and and he's getting hurt all the time and again it's another season ending injury but Norris isn't season ending though no, no no, it's not it's not, but he's just.
Speaker 2:He's often injured and and this will be problematic. However, at the end of the day, as we're taping this, if the playoffs started today, ottawa would be in. Last year at this time they were 16 points out, right. So this is a massive turnaround that a lot of people who have been following the senators have been waiting for this for the last three or four years and it does seem to be coming to fruition. Stutzler's bounced back.
Speaker 2:Brady has had it up and down, but at the end of the day, the consistency level that he brings shift in and shift out, and I love it because obviously he doesn't give a shit what the people are saying at the end of the game, when he decides to punch somebody in the head because Ottawa's losing and people. He decides to punch somebody in the head because Ottawa's losing and people go on the radio and say you know he's less concerned about fighting, more concerned about getting us the win. And here they are in a playoff spot right now. It just what that really highlights to me is the people who don't know the sport of hockey, like the person you're referring to. You were beside in the States. You were upset by the video that was shown with that comment. If you're commenting on Brady negatively because of how he finishes some games, you just clearly a for sure you never played the sport and B you just don't really know it.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, you just have no common sense, knowledge of the sport of hockey as it's played at the professional level. Maybe you know um house C, for you was just massive and and you got all the participation trophies and you're really happy and you got something to show your grandkids. You bring them in, son. This is when we lost 10-0, and we went out with our tail between our legs. But I got one of these, and this is why I'm not successful in life, see, but at the end of the day it's big business and Brady Tuchok plays big business hockey and I love the guy.
Speaker 2:I think he's the best all-around captain in the league. I I mean in terms of all around you play it any way you want, he still scores. Yeah, he's gonna get you 30 goals. He's gonna get you 150 pims. He's gonna he's gonna drag his team into the fight and he's a large, large reason why they are now look stutzler has been you must.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, he has had a real bounce back here. Yeah, he's a large, large reason why they are now look Stutzla has been you must. Yeah, yeah, he has had a real bounce back year. Yeah, he's got. Well, you know. You know what I know you're.
Speaker 1:I don't know if he's lost weight you're, you're calling, calling it a bounce back year. But you know, I I would say he's playing to his potential. I think he can actually do better and I'm not trying to push it on the guy and make him, you know, like I'm not satisfied, but I, I like the guy has real fucking greatness in like there's, like, there's flashes where you go like, is that, is that Kovalev? Like you know, have you ever seen? Uh?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, I remember very well.
Speaker 1:No, no, but you remember you remember when, like some of the, some of the moves and some of the ability that that Stutzla has reminds me of that like where you were just sort of blown away Even Kovalev, when he was older and slow, had more moves than you in the 1970s.
Speaker 2:That's like a carried away.
Speaker 1:You mean off the ice or on Off the ice?
Speaker 2:Okay, well then I'm up there, that's where I'm a viking. But uh, you know what? Kovalev? Yeah, interesting comparison, I think stutzler's. Uh, what he's showing to me this year is his speed has increased. Yeah, he looks a whole lot quicker out there. That's I'm curious, and I don't know and I should possibly, I guess. I don't know if his weight's down or not, but but he just he looks really quick out there, faster than I, faster than I've ever seen him. And when I say bounce back, yeah, it wasn't like he had a horrendous year last year, but he was like 20 points less than the year before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was pretty substantial and I think the guy could, on a good year, have 100 points. Now you know the consistency hasn't fully been there over almost 60 games, but he's been great. Brady's been great. Sanderson started slow. He's playing the best he just got. He's replacing Quinn Hughes in the four nation.
Speaker 1:So, those are big skates, eh.
Speaker 2:Big skates man because Quinn Hughes is exceptional and you know it's already got a Norris trophy, probably more to come in his career, and that's big shoes to fill. But I think Jake will do well and he's got lots of international experience so far coming up. So, even though this is a different stage but it's a made-for-TV tourney too, I know Well we're going to talk about that in another time, closer to the actual tournament.
Speaker 1:We're going to talk about that which is coming up very shortly. Okay, the other thing I was going to say, coming up in 48 hours. Okay, okay, fucking you, don't tell anyway, okay, no, no, it is coming up, I know, but it's. We're going to talk about it, okay, and uh, and we're also going to talk about the uh, the fucking toronto maple leafs and stuff like that later on in another episode. Okay, okay, but but we're we're done. This is it.
Speaker 1:We're finished this is a rebound show, but we got it, we got it. We got to do a few things here, yeah, okay. So, um, we just didn't happen to have any pints with us.
Speaker 2:No, I forgot my beer. You're out of beer.
Speaker 1:Okay, so here's what, but we do have to give an update just before we close on our Hosey Brown hockey pool. Yep, okay. So here's the thing. I've never seen anything not move in my life like this. It is unbelievable.
Speaker 2:Everybody stays in the exact same spot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like maybe one shuffle here back and forth, whatever, but the top four are the same top four with no movement, nothing at all. And I'm thinking to myself there's got to be something I could throw in there. You know what I mean? Yeah, so, um, I've put a uh 25% tariff on all uh US born players there it is so you worked it in somehow, okay that's it. So we we have the update. Still, leading the hockey pool is Adel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay uh, I love that, by the way that that's great, yeah, great guy. Oh he is.
Speaker 1:So we're going to come back, we'll talk about it, we'll give an update as we move on, but this has been Offside with Haas and McGuire. I'm Haas, I'm McGuire.
Speaker 2:Get in, get in, get in, get in.
