Offside with Hawes and Maguire
Offside: with Hawes and Maguire is not your typical hockey show. This weekly
45-60 minute show is a potent combination of humour and genuine hockey insights that pushes the envelope.
- Liam is renowned for his photographic memory, lively storytelling, vast hockey knowledge and sometimes over-the-top passion for the game of hockey.
- Chris is known for his unrehearsed humour, contagious laughter and uncanny ability to make even the most serious debates end in boisterous guffaws.
Between the two, there is an infectious enthusiasm and professional chemistry that is evident from the outset. It can only be described as lightning in a bottle.
Offside with Hawes and Maguire
From Bench Brawls to Overtime Thrillers: Hockey's Playoff Intensity
Playoff hockey at its finest! We're diving headfirst into the thrilling first-round matchups that have captivated fans across North America. The Ottawa Senators may be down 3-1 to Toronto, but with three of four games requiring overtime, they've proven they can hang with what many consider "the best Leafs team in the Matthews era." We break down Ottawa's impressive Game 4 victory, including their crucial penalty kill in overtime and Tyler Kleven's emergence as an impact defenseman.
The Montreal-Washington series has delivered spectacular drama, highlighted by the bench-area brawl that saw Tom Wilson and Arber Xhekaj throwing punches inside the Capitals bench! This surreal moment energized the Bell Centre crowd and sparked Montreal to a crucial Game 3 victory. We analyze the goaltending situation after injuries to both Montembeault and Charlie Lindgren, and discuss whether the Canadiens could pull off a historic upset.
Florida and Tampa Bay's "Alligator Alley" series has become a powder keg of physical play, with Matthew Tkachuk's controversial hit on Guentzel drawing comparisons to other questionable checks in the series. Specifically Barkov. We also touch on unexpected performances across other matchups, including Minnesota giving Vegas all they can handle and the dramatic Colorado-Dallas battles.
Can a team like Ottawa or Montreal channel the 2014 Los Angeles Kings and overcome a significant series deficit? Hockey's playoff intensity is unmatched in sports, where momentum can shift dramatically in an instant and underdogs always have hope. Whether you're a diehard fan or casual observer, this playoff season is delivering everything we love about the pursuit of Lord Stanley's Cup.
it's offside with haas and mcguire it's offside with haas, mcguire, I'm haas, I'm mcguire. All right, today is, uh, almost the end of april and, uh, it's a day of celebration, a day of trepidation. It's literally kind of that turning point. In the first round of the playoffs Last night, the Ottawa Senators who are not my number one team, but they're my number two team. Right, they played a decent game.
Speaker 2:They played a great game.
Speaker 1:It was a great hockey game. They won in overtime, yeah, and so we want to talk about all of that stuff. Yeah, okay, and so we'll start with that. The auto senators Sure, okay, I'm wearing the jersey. Yeah, because I never really do. But I, the reality is, is I'm getting fatter and nothing fits. So you know, that's kind of why I'm doing it. Okay, I started I was going to do some dieting, right, or try to lose weight. Don't be foolish, I know the big trend, eh, is walking. They say you can walk the weight off. At our age it's supposed to walk the weight off.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I leave for Calgary in the morning. Perfect, perfect Okay.
Speaker 2:So what did you think You'll get there by the time they're back in the playoffs, yeah, so what did you think?
Speaker 1:I mean, you know there's a whole litany of things to discuss, but let's talk about the Senators so far.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And to give fairness to the Leafs too, through this Well yeah, you have to.
Speaker 2:This is definitely people were saying it. When I say people, I think those that follow the Leafs very closely. We follow them, yeah, as we do a bunch of teams, but I'm a Hab fan. You've got the Senators here in town. We've talked about pretty much every team at one point or another on our shows, but those that follow the Leafs pretty closely have said this is the best team in the Austin Matthews era.
Speaker 2:And I would agree Absolutely. I would say it is and I would say primarily on the back end is where it's really noticeable. For me, the defense.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Adding Tanev and Carlo, you're getting. They're calling Benoit Bobby. Benoit, bobby Lark, you know, his first player in NHL history to have his first two points in the playoffs, both coming overtime goals. Really so in the playoffs, both come on overtime goals Really so he assisted Dolmas and obviously scored himself. So you know, the Leafs go up 3-0 with two overtime games, chris, I mean overtime is a coin flip.
Speaker 2:It really could go any way, but I do think it's reflective of probably the team that was the better in the series, as I do. I think it is three games to one, but give Ottawa tons of credit last night for gutting it out. We can Ottawa tons of credit last night for gutting it out. We can talk about what happened in the overtime, how they killed the four minute, but leading up to that, uh, toronto to come back, yeah, and he raised a two nothing lead. And then uh for, uh for for Ottawa to stay in the game and then ultimately get the W. They deserve a ton of credit as well.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, I thought it was the best game of the series in terms of intensity, pace, physicality, drama, like just they're fighting, like every other series, is almost a mirror image. It's unbelievable how entertaining the playoffs have been this year.
Speaker 1:And we're not talking about Montreal yet, so just hold on.
Speaker 2:I know I haven't even got there, so hold on, holy lifting.
Speaker 1:So here's. You mentioned a couple of things Very impressed with the Leafs and Sens.
Speaker 2:It's tough for Ottawa to be down 3-1. You all know the odds. Only four teams have come back from 3-0 down. But they got to be going back to Toronto and say, hey, the. Habs were there in 2021 down 3-1, and they ended up spanking them.
Speaker 1:so let's go down 3-1 and they ended up spanking them. So let's go, that's right. Well, and I say this uh, you know, because you know they just got to take it one mile at a time, like one game at a time, and not that they're like on a 12-step program or anything yeah but, all they got to do is win one game, yeah they got to win the one game
Speaker 1:get her back home yeah, you know what I mean. And then they got to win one game. And you know, because when you think about the big piece of the, you know of the puzzle, you can't. You can't think of it because it becomes a daunting task. But you've got, you know, and the game's divided into three periods. Win a period, get out there, win a period right yeah okay, and even better.
Speaker 1:Here's you know what win the battles during your shifts. I mean, as as a coach, that's what you're going to do. I mean, you you've got some systematic planning to do and whatever you work on those things, yeah, but at the end of the day, it all is going to come down to those individual battles.
Speaker 2:Yeah, on those individual shifts and some lucky bounces you're gonna need some, yeah, for sure, I mean sanderson's uh goals. The scene I shot, uh, yeah, just way by stole. Yeah, screened uh, as a lot of the goals are in in nhl, even regular season, let alone. Let alone when you get down to this time of the year, everybody's crowding the net. But I was just so impressed with the physicality. I don't know if we've seen full on brady to chuck just yet. I mean he's been involved in goals in goals.
Speaker 1:He threw seven hits last night, but he's playing smart. You know what he's playing smart? He's playing smart, but he hasn't.
Speaker 2:I guess we were all kind of anticipating we were going to see the guy in the four-nation Not saying we haven't.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:But at the same time, look, they're down 3-1. You can slice it however you want, but the fact that they killed off that four minute penalty in overtime with Batherson last night was unbelievable.
Speaker 1:To that point, though and this is something that I'm going to say precursor to that is you know who I've been most impressed with this whole series? John Tavares. Oh yeah, he's been. He's fucking playing like a beast incredible, you know. Oh yeah, he's fucking playing like a beast Incredible, and his hockey sense is really coming through. This has been the most impactful that he's been in his whole time with the Leafs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in my opinion, I would agree. I would agree. He obviously had some great years with the Islanders for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but the Islanders were shit then yeah, this is actually his genuine opportunity, right? I mean, he's probably looking at it that, and I'll tell you he's playing with heart and intelligence, and so you know what I mean. And they missed him last night on that, on that four minute power play.
Speaker 2:Concussion protocol after the cheap shot by zoob and uh, who avoided the penalty on the play should Should have been one. Obviously it happens. It's playoff hockey that's gone on in games all across the board here. But they missed him in that power play. But still there's enough ammo there in Toronto. They should have got it done and they didn't and Matthews hit the post. I don't know how Pacioretty's didn't go in. It was in the air. I think it was Clevin who knocked it out.
Speaker 2:What a crazy sequence. It's unbelievable. I wasn't at the game, but everyone that's gone has been telling me the atmosphere has been fantastic. So kudos to the Sens. I think last night looked like a few more Leaf fans than game three, but they did a really good job.
Speaker 1:They had time to drive up from Toronto.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, well, they have to stop in all the spots right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Napa, Belleville, Kingston, you're making all the stops.
Speaker 1:It's a big apple, grab some apple pie Exactly. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:No, it's just entertaining as hell man. You know it's just been great. It's tough for Ottawa. Obviously you go down 3-0. We know the stats. They stave off elimination. Last night you got to, just got to. Like you just said, you got to go and try and just win a game. Don't even think beyond that.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:Because the scope of it is just too crazy. But just go win a game. But you know there's really. You're splitting hairs here If this is the best Leaf team in the Matthews era and you have played four games and three of them gone in overtime. Yeah, so three of them gone in overtime, yeah. So what does that say about Ottawa?
Speaker 1:I think it says a lot says a lot, and it says a lot about the heart and, frankly, you know what, like I, I was not initially going to be a Travis Green fan okay. I, I'm not gonna you know. I never said as such yeah, but you know what he's done a good job oh, you have that with that young group of guys there's like they're young, right, really and truly.
Speaker 1:You got, you got closure who is like you know granted, he's probably taking a lot of uh, anti-inflammatories for his arthritis problem, okay, and stuff like that but he's not even that old. He's in his 30s.
Speaker 2:No, no, yeah, he's like 36 or something, but but uh, hey listen, I I don't think travis, really this, you just. But hey, listen, I don't think Travis, you just have to look it up. I don't think he did much in Vancouver and he didn't do much in New Jersey. He's doing a good job here. You have to give him credit. Ultimately, the buck stops with him in terms of combinations and lines and when you're putting guys out this, that and the other and everything else. So yes, he's got's got a coaching staff, but I mean, he's the head coach and you do have to give him credit.
Speaker 1:There's no doubt about it and I.
Speaker 2:I too did not think it was necessarily a a great hire by the senators, but give credit where it's due, man absolutely, and you know what they're right there in the thick of it here, if they can somehow find a way to squeeze.
Speaker 2:Look, we just saw it last year with edmonton right and florida right. Yeah, lose three, win three as recently as last year. So let alone the teams that did come come back from from from three down. Yes, it's historic and it's only four times since the best of seven started in 1939. So the stats aren't great against ottawa here. But at the end of the day, what a, what a way to get a w last night they didn't get swept. No, they didn't lose their last game on home ice.
Speaker 1:But even Now you're going back and I say that I had kind of resigned myself when Toronto came back and everything. I was like I'm sitting on the coach and I'm going off, you know, and I'm texting, you know. Texting, you know, is that's, by the way, that's how you watch hockey nowadays, right, you're watching the game, you may not be with your buddies, but you're. They text you. You get a text every fucking couple minutes. Could you fucking believe it, you know, or whatever it was.
Speaker 2:Anyhow, I kind of I don't respond to anything during when the game's on.
Speaker 1:Really, yeah, nothing, I didn't know that, yeah, so we're going to move on from the auto centers. We know it's been great, it's been wonderful, and monday night we'll see another game I think tuesday.
Speaker 2:I think they're pushing this one, are they pushing?
Speaker 1:oh, they're taking the break, okay yeah, okay, tuesday night we'll get that ability. We still have another montreal game to get to. Yeah, okay, and we've got you know that stuff. But we're gonna, we're gonna take a detour right now about our hockey pool, yeah, which, as we know, the winner of the hockey pool, uh, this year, instead, it's speaking of golf, instead of coming to ireland with, uh, the haas golf experience, yeah, okay, uh, they are there. We, we decided that this summer they're just going to go to pei, nice, and they're going to do it with club eg golf, okay, local, local company that uh know most of the guys, a lot of them are refs in the off season, the or or golf pros so you know them intimately, is what you're saying I know them well.
Speaker 1:It's hard to believe I actually get along with them. But wow, you know. But on the ice they know there's a different personality and you know what I mean well, for you for sure uh, and I'm like way mellow now yeah you, you're a new man.
Speaker 2:Oh fuck, you're a grandfather. For God's sake, exactly, you know, I can't be out there, fucking.
Speaker 1:So congratulations to our winner, adel Yep. Okay, led from the beginning, there was a few near the end it was close.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean, but he still, he hung on there. It was close, yeah, you know what I mean, but he still he hung on there. And so he and his guest are going to PEI Fantastic. And I was at a funeral yesterday, okay, and somebody who knows Adel, and he said, oh, yeah, he goes, well, I want to go on the trip too. Because he thought we were going, oh, and I said, no, I'm not going, he goes. Oh, okay, trip too. Because he thought we were going, oh, and I said, no, I'm not going, as all, okay, uh, but they're going to come to Ireland in September. There you go. So that's the plan. So now a whole new, a whole new trip to the west side of of Ireland, not not the northeast, the northwest northwest yeah, okay, so that's.
Speaker 1:That's the trip. It's going to be like it's somewhere in the first week of october I don't have the dates in in my hand. You know what I mean, but we're gonna be drive, drive through. There was a place, but you're not going to be there. If you're not going to be there, we're not going to kong. I'm just saying. That's all I'm saying well, I'm going to drive by.
Speaker 2:You know what I'll do I'll drive by, take a picture let me know when next time you're playing in the south and I'll jump in again. Well it is, I've done the north.
Speaker 1:You mean the Republic. No, you haven't done Donegal, which is in the Republic, I know, but it's the north part of Ireland. Yeah, yeah, right. So that's where we're going. We will be in Donegal and Sligo and we'll be golfing there.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So you know, Ireland has at least got four provinces, is in at least got four provinces. I don't know if you knew that. Yeah, so four different places, yeah, yeah, so, um, we're gonna stick with the, um, the northern part, because the southern part is, uh, way too overexposed. You know what I mean. It's fun, don't get me wrong, but you haven't, you know, like you haven't been up to donegal yet yeah, I've been to donegal many times all right, okay, well uh, yes, so I mean I have a golf there well, there you go.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. What are you talking about? Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2:Let's get you know donigal many times, yeah all right, I'd like to play courses in the south, though, next time I go all right public.
Speaker 1:Well it is, though the donigal is in the republic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you're how many? Where are we playing?
Speaker 1:well, you don't know yet no, no, I know, I know the courses. We'll play in a scrone. We'll play donegal like merva. Uh, we'll play. I mean, these are all like great courses, yeah, but but again you're not playing, paying the equivalent of 750 around, yeah, yeah, to play old head, that's right but you don't have.
Speaker 2:Those are the a plus ones and you don't have to. Those are the A-plus ones, and you don't have to play Ballybudden and Lynch and Old Head and Waterville and whatnot, doonbeg, I mean those are your A and A-plus tracks. Maybe you can get one of them in a tour at some point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't see the value in $750 or more for a fucking round of golf no, like you know what, unless there's a blow job afterwards. That's just too much money, sorry.
Speaker 2:Adel, adel congratulations.
Speaker 1:Yeah, congrats yeah.
Speaker 2:And Hosey and Brown for being the key sponsor of our pool now two years running, and the Hosey and Brown sponsorship will continue through the rest of this hockey season.
Speaker 1:That's correct.
Speaker 2:For the duration of the time that you and I are doing the show and because, man, this is just round one. I know We've got lots of time, it's absolutely insane, yeah, and just about every series is two games to one, with the exception of Toronto Ottawa, so it's been just absolutely spectacular, and I just want to give Rod a big thanks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, and me as well, for jumping in for us two years in a row. Yeah, and it's been great. Well, you know what? We don't have a prize if we don't have a sponsor.
Speaker 2:Exactly yeah.
Speaker 1:Like you know, we're only doing this for Rod. Really, that's it Pretty much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, get your Arnold parts at Holene Brown. By the way, they're celebrating 50 years next year. Really 50 years in business. Well, there you go In 2026. So I know they're going to have quite a celebration at some point somewhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I will be there. You think yes. Yeah, I think the word celebration and Liam don't go together.
Speaker 2:I know it's not a good fit usually, but you know we'll try and make the best of it. Okay so before we move on to I want to.
Speaker 1:We were talking about golf. We're talking about Ireland, talking about things. Okay, I'm going to give this. I told you that I was going to do this, okay, yeah, this is the now you're we're going to, I'm going to customize for you, yeah, okay, for your grip, a new club, but this is the very first Hawes of St Andrew's West, which is on the way to Cornwall.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1:This is a putter. You're not getting the whole set.
Speaker 2:Is it like a niblet or something? No, it's a putter.
Speaker 1:You've heard of these things, these putters, yeah, okay, but yeah, so I do have a set with nibblix mashing, nibblix mashies, uh, and a jigger and a jigger okay, plus a, plus a brassy, uh, john brassy, yes, exactly so. So, uh, but this is, this is my gift to you, is going to be this, uh, this putter. As I said, this is this one is actually going to be mine, but I'm going to customize yours. Probably put some red-white tape.
Speaker 2:A little Canadian-izing A little.
Speaker 1:Canadian-izing for you, or something like that. By the way, how about the shirt? Eh, you know what? It's a wonderful shirt. Total surprise to me, because I had no idea that it was coming.
Speaker 2:I love it. That's your name right there. That is my name there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I had no idea that was coming, so I guess I would have to say thanks to Kev.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Ottawa Valley Uniforms. Kev Jardine, ottawa Valley Uniforms. For doing that. He never put Ottawa Valley Uniforms on the side, though. No, he should have done that, and that would have given advertising at the same time.
Speaker 2:Well, this is quite the weapon.
Speaker 1:You know what? Guaranteed, guaranteed, guaranteed two putts Guaranteed, no, actually one and a half. One and a half You're going to be tour quality at 1.7. Damn.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, that's where you're going to be. You're going to love it, so give me the details here you didn't make this.
Speaker 1:Yes, I did.
Speaker 2:You physically made this.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, no, I don't have a foundry to be able to do that. Okay, but the design is an exact replica, so your name's on it, my name's on it. It's an exact replica of a Gibson Maxwell flange. Okay, putter from the 1920s, okay.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Now the, the, the Maxwell, actually had holes drilled in the hosel. Okay, To make it lighter here and heavier here, okay, okay, and that's what they use. They use the extra metal to create the flange. So, uh, what I've done is I've I've changed the hosel, and the hosel is now solid so that you don't get water and vapor and stuff inside, and this will last over 100 years.
Speaker 2:Now it's a heavy head. It's a heavy head.
Speaker 1:That's right, it's about 335 grams. Okay, okay, yeah, so it's a heavy head compared to what a modern putter is. Yeah, okay, but it's balanced by a heavy grip You've got a big grip. I've got a big grip. I got a big grip. I mean I like a wide grip only because my Is this grip made for you?
Speaker 1:I made this grip myself. You made that grip. So yeah, so I actually constructed this club. Okay, so the hickory comes from the US. Okay, okay, this leather, this actually is actually bison, this particular thing, really, yeah, bison hide. Okay, okay, this threading which is you can't really tell it kind of looks like tape, but the threading here is waxed Irish linen. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, and you got a little bit of Ireland in there, I got it.
Speaker 1:Oh, everything is there. So we put this all together and, you know, did all the actual putting it together myself, whipped it, created it. I did this particular one for myself. I will be able to do one that matches your grip so that you feel the same. Okay, okay. So that's the plan. I'll do the grip. Wow, I'll customize the grip for you. That's awesome. So, yeah, so that's my gift to you. When you go to Read A View for men's night and they're giving you grief about your old grip yeah, okay you can say, well, fuck, take a look at my new grip, yeah, okay, and you go from there.
Speaker 2:So anyway, that's going to be my gift to you.
Speaker 1:Well hold there now and we'll cuss, I'll customize one exactly for you. Fantastic, thank you. This is so cool. And right on the back, hey man. No, you know what it's got to be a brand, how like I could call it. You're structuring it here.
Speaker 2:You're just you know yeah, no, I love it a fine ottawa product.
Speaker 1:To be honest with you like there's not, you know, I, I'm, I'm starting manufacturing, uh, you know, uh, on my own I I just wish. So what happened though, in this bad time, to do a business, because this fucking trade war oh shit.
Speaker 1:So the hickory is now Canada has retaliatory tariffs on it, right, yeah, so hickory has gone up 25%, oh fuck. So bring it in. But guess what, when I go to send it out to sell it to somebody in the United States, it's another 25%, and then the United States puts 100 and some percent tariff on the head. It's just ridiculous, because it's a stainless steel which is a metal product. Yeah, honestly, it's so. I got to sell the first lot in Canada, only it's going to be an exclusive Canadian offer, okay, okay, because I got to wait till this trade war changes. Yeah, but it you know all I said here. I'll give that back to you. Okay, and now we're going to talk about something that I know is dear to your heart. Okay, is a kerfuffle on the bench or in the bench area? Yeah, on the bench or in the bench area, yeah, and the Montreal Canadiens surprising the world with kicking ass.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, the series so far against Washington. It was kind of going, I think, as most had expected. Right but it wasn't a blowoutout. They were not blowing Montreal out of the water, and I think a lot of people are waiting to see. How are the caps going to be in the playoffs after Ovi hit the record? Yeah is there going to be a hangover and whatnot? They're the number one seed and they they've been number one pretty much the whole season yeah so it's, it's.
Speaker 2:You're kind of on cruise control at the end and they didn't dress a bunch of guys and Columbus waxed them. Back-to-back games, including 7-0. And you know the nucleus of the players. There are the ones that are starting in the playoffs. So you don't know. And then you come up against Montreal and you play these first two games and, frankly, they won them. They won them, just like we're talking about Toronto getting it done. At the end of the day, it's just about getting the victory.
Speaker 2:And they did and they got the victory and you came back to Montreal where you knew it was going to be absolutely raucous. I haven't been yet. I am saying that if the Canadians were to somehow get to the second round, I will go to a game, but I have been in the building for a playoff game there. I'm not sure if you have or not.
Speaker 1:No, I've never been in the new building.
Speaker 2:You've never been in the Bell Centre.
Speaker 1:No, Never been in it. I haven't been since the Forum. That's what 185 years ago.
Speaker 2:Oh, the Forum closed in 1996, Monday, March 11, 1996.
Speaker 1:I haven't been to a Montreal game in the Bell Centre.
Speaker 2:That's 30 years next year. So that's 30 years next year. Is it really For the Bell Centre?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it opened in 1996.
Speaker 1:And, to be fair, I'm not particularly a Montreal fan, no, no.
Speaker 2:So why would you go?
Speaker 1:I just figured you would have caught a centre game down there. Well, the other thing is that every time we go to Montreal, I get fucking lost on the way out.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like the most difficult place to leave it's terrible. It's like they don't want anyone to leave. That's how you get this, how I saw a lot of our irish family emigrated to quebec. Yeah, they all. You know they all, because that a lot of people don't know this, but a huge irish population in quebec oh my god, absolutely right yeah, and and.
Speaker 2:So if you don't know that, it was because they, and you know why probably majority of the famine people that came across landed in the province of Quebec.
Speaker 1:Do you know why?
Speaker 2:Right there with New York. Do I know why? No?
Speaker 1:Because whether you were traveling steerage or not, the difference was $10 a head or 10 pounds a head to go to Montreal versus New York or Boston, to go to Montreal versus New York or Boston, and so a lot of people went to Montreal and then walked down into the United States from the Irish Okay, so it was the cheaper passage to get to Canada.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And that's why a lot of Irish people, certainly my people that's what they did.
Speaker 2:Well, mine too, obviously. Yeah, I mean my mom's family.
Speaker 1:Well, you guys are friends. Yeah, my dad obviously didn't leave.
Speaker 2:His family stayed in Ireland, right, but my mother's family came over.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The Paynes P-A-Y-N-E, you know, just ahead of the famine actually. So they certainly went through all of that, yeah, and came into the province of Quebec and made their way to the village of Stoneham and the rest is history on that side. But Montreal, in that game against the Capitals and with the fans going absolutely nuts, found themselves down 1-0 about five, six minutes in, I believe. It was McMichael that scored. He's had a great series, he's had a great season for the Capitals. And then Carrier, the defenseman Montreal picked up, scored in the last minute of play to tie the game at one. It was a crucial goal yeah for sure.
Speaker 2:and then the second period, where the teams exchanged goals in a couple of minutes before the drama at the end, with Lane Hudson jumping in in front of Ovi in the dying seconds of the period and intercepting a breakout pass, throwing it immediately across to Cole Caulfield who hammered it home, and the building went absolutely crazy again.
Speaker 1:He noticed the way his eyes light up. He was telling that. It was almost like he was retelling the story of the first time he had sex. It was like and then Laneudson.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. He was my wingman. Yeah, I don't think he'd be too handy as a wingman anywhere to see, they had a they had a party on the off day there, where they all went to hurley's in montreal and and lane was there with his girlfriend and the doorman said you gotta wait in, wait in line, kid. He didn't recognize him. That's great.
Speaker 2:He didn't recognize who Hudson was. His girlfriend went back up and said do you know, this is Lane Hudson. And the guy just looks at holy shit. And he went and got him and brought him back out of line and let him in because he looks like he's 17. Well, yeah. What is? He's 18. Well, he's a little older, but he's a buck 20. Anyway, what we really obviously want to talk about is what happened at the end and as the benches emptied Dobas, the Montreal goaltender, because Monobo got hurt.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And has to leave the game. Dobas goes in and we're just really still getting to know him okay he played phenomenally he did and and he has from montreal, like he started. You know he had a shutout in his first game and and he played, I think, a total of 13 or 14 starts, I think he went seven four and two or seven four and three.
Speaker 2:His numbers weren't bad, obviously. The first five, six games he won and that was such a bonus because the shooters didn't have a book on him or nothing right. But he is a little bit on the volatile side himself. If you've seen him on the bench during games or if you've seen him he gets in guys faces around the net all the time. So the video which didn't make its way to us publicly for about 20 minutes or so, and the inter before, I think the intermission ended then, then hockey night showed it. He's trying to get off and the capitals are stepping in front of him and they're not letting him off and he made a, a push to get by a couple of them and then the canadians all sort of congregated and came over and the capitals were coming off the bench. Well, of course that that allowed for Anderson. Well, wi-fi, it was originally Jack-Eye.
Speaker 2:So, he played the first game, first time he dressed Thousands. Everybody wanted a lineup, except for it seemed like the coaching staff. They sit Struble, put in Wi-Fi. He only played 10 minutes, 17 shifts, but he threw four hits. He was plus one and his presence was felt and it was felt from the warm warm up on when he got. He had words with anderson. So he's coming together and they're right up against the boards, they're trying to go and anderson comes in and he basically takes over and gets into it. The door was open. I'm sure everybody's seen it now. Yeah, the door's open to the bench and and, uh, and they, they go in the bench and holy, holy Jesus. I was trying to go through the screen Like I was losing my mind. It was un-freaking-believable, holy shit. If you turn the clock back 30 years, can you imagine? Yeah, that brawl. It would have been an all-outer, like Detroit and St Louis back in 91.
Speaker 1:Or you know what. Or go back even further. Terry O'Reilly would have jumped the interstate. Yeah, you're going into the crowd and Milbury's, grabbing the guy's shoes and hitting him over the head with it, you know, in Madison Square Garden in 1980.
Speaker 2:But the whole thing was so surreal to see them on there and of course they weren't really like. Wilson was probably the aggressor and the stuff that went on the bench. But watching Carberry and the coaching staff, they were actually in front. They had to get out of the way as these guys were coming by trying to swing. It was unbelievable and it's just added so much flavor. And then of course the Canadians scored three times in the third, ended up winning the game. And then Thompson got hurt. I see he's back practicing today oh, is he?
Speaker 1:yeah, okay, because there was like there was no word, like even Kristen asked. So what happened?
Speaker 2:oh my god, it looked terrible, yeah like that was on the Slavkoski goal great pass by Caulfield to get it through, slav just guides it in and Strom coming back a hundred miles an hour, you know, like a Mack truck. But did you see the replay of his knee, his leg, going back? I don't know how the hell the guy's got to be Gumby to be on the ice today skating.
Speaker 1:Well, you know what I think it would be. I mean, I don't know, I don't think it would be the most prudent to get back in there, unless I mean.
Speaker 2:But they must have done. They're calling it a game time decision. Yeah, game time decision for Thompson to play whenever you see our show here, because here's the thing If he's not 100%, then he becomes a liability. Absolutely Right. Oh yeah, You've got to be 100% good to go as a goaltender, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, even if you're like a Montreal cop, you've got to be 100% to get in there. Yeah yeah, cop, you got to be 100. Yeah yeah. Sever feast there.
Speaker 2:the uh, police officer, is the e-bug emergency backup goaltender? And there he was. I think they had him in number 96, I think it was yes, there was it, yeah, in the sweater and uh, yeah, I'm sure everybody knows the way it works. You have to have what's called an e-bug in every arena now and they can play for either team. And in this case, here you know, he obviously had come out to, would have supported, had Dolbis somehow gone in. He could have gone in there. However, then Thompson gets hurt and he goes off.
Speaker 1:He could have been swapping jerseys. He very much could have, yeah.
Speaker 2:He very much could have and ended up going to Nets for Washington.
Speaker 1:And just walked into the corner. Well, the famous exactly.
Speaker 2:Well, look at the famous story about the Toronto Maple Leafs losing to their Zamboni, driver who ended up playing for Carolina that night.
Speaker 2:Yeah Is a similar situation and that has happened before in hockey history, back in the day In the one goalie era, when backup people that were in the building would dress and play. And there's stories, there's history of people dressing and playing against the Montreal Canadiens in the forum back in the 50s and picking up wins in some cases, a couple of cases. It's ridiculous, but it's happened anyway. That whole thing was just unbelievable theater and it's added so much fuel to this series. Yeah, I'll, I'll be it.
Speaker 2:You know, washington could come out tonight and waltz right and just go up to three games to one and make it all seem pretty academic. However, um this, canadian team are very resilient and they've had a hell of a season. They're playing on house money and they're just having a blast and they look like it.
Speaker 1:You also know the old saying you're not behind until you lose at home.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you lose at home.
Speaker 1:And so you know right now, they're where they need to be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, you know the opportunity to tie the series tonight and make it go at least six is something probably. I know a lot of the pundits. I've watched everybody's. Everybody picked Washington, most picked Washington in five and could still well be. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1:We'll see, but minimally. It'd be crazy if they actually upset Washington. To be honest, it would be Well, it would be 2010 all over again. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:They upset Washington in 2010 in this scenario and they were down three games to one.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And came back and won. Then they went and played the Pittsburgh Penguins with Crosby and Malkin and they beat them in seven.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Before that magic carpet ride ran out against Philadelphia in the semifinals in 2010.
Speaker 1:And in 2010,. If I'm not mistaken, giroux was on that flyer team at the time. He was yeah, he was, yeah, yeah, and he had the. He had the playoff.
Speaker 2:Well, that was the year that they came back.
Speaker 2:That's right from three down against yeah your Boston Bruins yeah and uh and won four straight and that pissed off and you know, like the Michael Jordan quote there from the last dance, so I took it personal. So the Bruins took it personal and went on to win the cup the next year, yeah, which I'm sure you're still pretty happy about. So at the end of the day, that Montreal game and now Florida and Tampa is really heated up with the cheap shot hits, including to Chuck on Gensel last night, the previous one.
Speaker 1:Okay. So let me ask you about that, because that's something that you know five minute major no suspension, by the way, no, but just the penalty. Well, at the speed of the game, I think he was trying to make the hit cleanly, but hammer the shit out of him and he dished it off really well.
Speaker 2:How do you compare it then to Hagel on Barkov? How do you?
Speaker 1:Oh, no, no, no, listen, the Barkov hit was fucking brutal and you know, and frankly, he wasn't even looking, it was not even like yeah, but like Gensel wasn't looking either yeah, but he was moving up the ice. The Barkov hit was way out of line. Uh, and maybe it's because I like Barkov god, I love that guy I do.
Speaker 2:He's a great hockey player. He's unbelievable.
Speaker 1:And don't get me wrong, I like Getzel's, a great hockey player.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he is.
Speaker 1:And all these guys, and the guy that actually, I think you dislike the most is Kachuk. Yeah, for sure, and I'm kind of defending him, yeah Right, but I don't think.
Speaker 2:Well, he deserved a major, though he deserved?
Speaker 1:Oh, without question. No, I, you know, he absolutely was a penalty. Yeah, it was absolutely, you know. Again, I have to give him the benefit of the doubt as the you know, the player safety, whatever the yeah.
Speaker 2:Department of Player Safety. Department of Player Safety. Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:Whatever, I agree that it was not an intentional they're not reviewing it at all. Yeah, I don't, you know from there. Now, that being said, they also don't want to ruin the Florida Panthers' chance at, you know, getting to the Stanley Cup by taking out one of their best players.
Speaker 2:Well, I hope that's not a factor that's being considered here. I'm telling you, I'm having a hard time finding a lot of difference between the two hits. I really am Really. Eh. Yeah, I really am Really eh yeah, I mean Barkov.
Speaker 2:Listen, if you want to go out, you play enough hockey, yeah, and you played enough contact hockey growing up, as did I. If you want to go out and light somebody up illegally, but that's what you want to do For whatever reason, you're pissed off the team's losing there's been. Whatever you want to go out and do it, you can do it. You can go and take somebody out, and that hit on Barkov was egregious. And I just found the same thing on Gensel. Maybe the response wasn't the same, like Barkov was down and out and went out of the game.
Speaker 2:Right, so Gensel was right at the end of the game too right, but the dying seconds?
Speaker 1:true, but the difference was kind of the the, the.
Speaker 2:In my opinion, the difference is the intent right and his intent was to catch him late, regardless the intent was there to hurt him like I'm he's made the pass. You're two steamboats beyond when you're supposed to throw.
Speaker 1:They hit but is it? Was it really two steamboats like, and I know it was?
Speaker 2:late. It was grotesquely late. It looked all.
Speaker 1:That's why I got a major no, I know, but it looks even later when they slow it down. But when you run that at real speed, when you're traveling, fuck it's hard to get out of that way, like you know what. There have been plenty of times when you know you're traveling, fuck it's hard to get out of that way, like you know what. There there have been plenty of times when you know you're going down the ice and you go and and all of a sudden somebody cuts in front of you yeah and I've, like late, like laid guys out completely because I just didn't have time, yeah, to adjust and turn yeah
Speaker 1:like I, you know, I I forget who it was this this past playoff and the the guy cutting across. He had the puck and he's cutting across and he didn't see me. Literally he skates right into my chest, okay, and I he went down like like I could hear the out of out of him and I felt fucking horrible, right, but I didn't do. It was obvious. He and the ref knew I hadn't done anything. You know what I mean? Yeah, okay, the guy skated right into me. I didn't have time to move and it's kind of maybe I'm just, you know, projecting what has happened to me in my past. I, I don't think I know he was going to hit him while he had the puck and then he dished it and he didn't have time to change what he was doing.
Speaker 2:You know what? At the end of the day, they're calling it the alligator bowl, or something.
Speaker 1:I think the nickname of the series, well, it's alligator alley.
Speaker 2:Alligator alley, that's yeah, okay, yeah, so it's I mean Alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, Alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator.
Speaker 1:Alligator, alligator, alligator.
Speaker 2:Alligator, alligator.
Speaker 1:Alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, alligator, of Girl Scouts and stuff like that. And she said to one of the moms she said, listen, I need some help for this thing. She goes well, I can't. We've got tickets to the game and Grace goes to the game. The game, what do you mean? The game. She goes the hockey game and Grace is like wow, I had never thought that people would be into it.
Speaker 1:She's thinking football, football season's over, she's going through, she can't. It was. It didn't even occur to her, yeah, that these people were excited to go to the the the panthers bay lightning game so, all that being said, she commented to me just yesterday about that. She says I asked these help and they're going to the game. They got tickets to the game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I mean. That's great man. Yeah, that's great. And that series is obviously far from over. The Panthers up two games to one, so it's just another one we got to throw an eyeball on. And look at the end of the day, between Tampa and Florida, they've been in the last five finals.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So Florida two straight, tampa three straight before that, with three Stanley Cups to show for it. So Lord Stanley has been going down. Alligator Alley as well here the last five years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what Very good hockey down in Florida.
Speaker 2:Colorado, dallas has been insane. You know the Avs tied up Minnesota excuse me, minnesota's giving Vegas all they can handle. I'd say right now that Gustafsson's been notwithstanding Vegas getting the win in overtime in yesterday's game, but they needed that. Yeah, they needed that. And Kaprizov's been playing. I mean, he's a former Calder Trophy winner. We all know what he's done down there in Minnesota, but he's obviously really enjoying this playoff run. He could make the case. He's out playing Jack Eichel and the goaltending he could make the case Gustafsson's out playing Aiden Hill.
Speaker 1:Oh, I would absolutely say that.
Speaker 2:This series is far from over and you've got a whole different animal now, with Edmonton coming back on LA.
Speaker 1:Well, let's just hope they come back again. Well, that's a big one tonight as well.
Speaker 2:There's a game on right now as we speak.
Speaker 1:I have not even considered the New Jersey Carolina series at all.
Speaker 2:St Louis-Winnipeg.
Speaker 1:Well, St Louis-Winnipeg, I've watched some of that.
Speaker 2:Well, Hellebuck got lit up right Again, but they've got to get it done Well.
Speaker 1:they're one of the best teams in the league.
Speaker 2:And they've got to get through it. They haven't been for the last five years Right, and they've got to get through that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, got to find a way man, or they'll be known as the Leafs of the West. Yes, nobody wants that, nobody wants that Imagine if Ottawa wins game five Look out. Oh, wouldn't that be nice, that would be, something. You know what? That would be something. Regardless, the Sens have played phenomenally well. They should be proud of what they've done.
Speaker 2:They probably deserve a better fate than to be down three games to one.
Speaker 1:Oh Christ, they outshot them in two of the games that they lost in overtime.
Speaker 2:Yeah Right, but yesterday they did. Yesterday, where they were getting killed was in the face-off dot, yes, and yesterday they changed that around and they dominated, Eliminated the offensive zone in terms of possession.
Speaker 1:I'd like a stat I don't know if it's available how many times Ottawa was thrown out of the dot. It's ridiculous, these linesmen are absolutely.
Speaker 2:I wrote one. It's what I'm doing. I'm just writing a little thing after every two games. So after when Toronto and Montreal or, excuse me, ottawa and Montreal both played, so like after.
Speaker 2:After four Exactly, it's to the Hab game tonight. I'll. I'll do a little synopsis and I wrote not the last one, but the one before the linesman. I actually put his name in and and it. I've never seen anything that bad. It was ridiculous. And how many times do you see it? You know, okay, you're out. Next guy comes in, throw that guy out.
Speaker 2:Then they drop it because if anybody gets two, that's right, you can go to three, you're gone, penalty and they don't, they don't want to, they don't want to be the one that's going to cause, maybe, a team losing a game. God forbid yeah because joel linesman, who wants to be the guy wants to be the show, won't drop the friggin puck.
Speaker 1:It is bullshit just get in there, okay, boom, you know I, I would much rather than it's ever been. You know, it's ever been by far yeah, and there was just a ton of them and it just drove me nuts. I think you get to the point where you know you've got a tavaris taking a face off against a non-centreman. Yeah, well, that's the other thing that happens, right.
Speaker 2:I mean he did beat Pinto on the draw to get it back to Benny there for that OT shot, but at the end of the day, massive role reversal for the Senators. In the last game in the dot they obviously paid a lot of attention to detail, maybe made some subtle changes. It's hard to really know what's going on, but they were a whole lot more efficient on the dot and, you have to be, come playoff time they were getting absolutely scalded like 60 to 40. It was crazy, maybe even higher in the last couple games, and they reversed that yesterday. And Tyler Clevin, you know there's you like him.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I mean's, he's playing like probably I guess a lot of us kind of thought, okay, because he's a big guy yeah and you know, I mean, and he's he's not taking any shit out there, like he's standing up physically and he's been. He's not afraid to take the puck, yeah, and he's not just off the glass and out right, right, like they tell, like so many, just get that freaking thing out. He's actually showing some authoritative control of the puck as he's maneuvering out. Can I take some ice?
Speaker 2:yeah and gain the zone and minimally get a nice shoot in or maybe even a controlled zone entry, yeah, or something like that. So well I think he's played great and I don't know who.
Speaker 1:Who, what is what. Who it was that said it, uh, but I so. I think he's played great and I don't know who it was that said it, but they had said he's one of the best number six defensemen in the league right now. And I can't remember which commentator said it. It doesn't really matter. But you know what I'm really happy about Shabbat hasn't fucked up.
Speaker 2:That's true.
Speaker 1:And he's a great player, yeah, and he's now showing what he can do, but for so long he was. Yeah, he was trying to do too much, maybe. Well, for sure, you know. Oh, speaking of trying to do too much, amadio, fuck, oh, amadio, amadio, he, amadio, he played for the Leafs.
Speaker 1:I don't even remember much wrong yeah, yeah, he played for the Leafs briefly, uh, and, and he's got so much he's his hands yeah, got so much talent, but he's always making that last move, and, and it's getting him to trouble instead of make it like and and just trying to play a little less skilled. Yeah right, I mean, that's one of the challenges when you have these kids who are so frigging good. Yeah, okay, but my thought is that he's got to simplify things.
Speaker 2:Simplify the game. Simplify the game. It took the words right out of my mouth. Yeah, yeah, but you know, exciting to watch the whole thing, you know what, and I'm you can't wait for the next games, the Senators coming off the mat. First round down 3-0, coming back and winning the cup.
Speaker 1:Wouldn't that be great.
Speaker 2:You know who I'd be happy for it would be the Los Angeles Kings of 2014.
Speaker 1:It would be the Los Angeles Kings of 2014. That's what they did yeah with Dustin Brown. That was a big year. Yeah, yeah, I don't want to see the LA Kings win.
Speaker 2:They're good, they are good, oh my God.
Speaker 1:And I don't want to see them win this series.
Speaker 2:Because I mean, you know what I think that Edmonton With Byfield Dowdy as a veteran on D Dowdy yeah.
Speaker 1:He actually. So the game that I've seen, and parts thereof, because that I've seen in parts thereof, because it's late day, yeah, and I'm, I'm old, and so I fall asleep like it's crazy, but he has played like a kid. Yeah, he's 10 years younger. He's looked good he's. Yeah, I know. And and who was it? He was on the block at trade deadline. They were talking about him being on the block. Drew Doughty. Yeah, I don'ty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't recall that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Maybe I don't recall it per se.
Speaker 1:To be honest with you, okay, I'm out of beer. You're out of beer. Okay, so we're over. Okay, so we're done. Is there anything else you want to announce? Any?
Speaker 2:important? No, I don't think so. No, I can't think of anything. So we're good to go, we'll just get on the playoffs here in the first round and see what happens the next time we reconvene where everybody's at.
Speaker 1:Perfect, Now get me my shirt.
Speaker 2:I thought the header had one for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hadn't seen anything heard anything?
Speaker 2:Okay, well, I just got this, okay. So, because you've been away, I've been away, you've been sick and I've been sick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, liam, he's had all the vaccinations, everything Still got VD. This has been Offside with Haas McGuire. I'm Haas, I'm.
Speaker 2:McGuire G'day.
