Offside with Hawes and Maguire
Offside: with Hawes and Maguire is not your typical hockey show. This weekly
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- Liam is renowned for his photographic memory, lively storytelling, vast hockey knowledge and sometimes over-the-top passion for the game of hockey.
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Stuffing the Net Like a Ballot Box
The Battle of Ontario rages on as Ottawa forces a crucial Game 6 against Toronto in what's become a surprisingly competitive playoff series. What started as a potential Maple Leafs cakewalk has transformed into a nerve-wracking showdown, with Toronto's playoff demons potentially resurfacing at the worst possible time. The hosts dive deep into Toronto's concerning 1-13 record in elimination games since 2018, questioning whether their core players can finally overcome the immense pressure.
Florida's elimination of Tampa Bay in just five games signals a changing of the guard in Florida hockey supremacy. Sam Bennett's highlight-reel goal coming straight out of the penalty box exemplifies how the Panthers outplayed the Lightning throughout the series, beating Vasilevskiy with shots that the elite goaltender would typically stop. Could this be Florida's year again?
The conversation shifts to Winnipeg, where controversy reigns after a questionable hit on Mark Scheifele that's sidelined the Jets' star center. We break down the physics of the collision, the war of words between opposing coaches, and how Scheifele's absence might impact Winnipeg's chances moving forward. Meanwhile, Edmonton has rallied behind McDavid and Draisaitl to take control against Los Angeles after dropping the first two games of their series.
Montreal's valiant playoff effort against Washington deserves recognition despite their elimination. The young Canadiens squad displayed remarkable resilience, competing closely with the Capitals throughout the series and showing why their future looks incredibly bright. With their emerging young talent, could Montreal be positioning themselves as Canada's next great hope for bringing the Stanley Cup north of the border?
What makes playoff hockey so compelling are these evolving storylines and unexpected twists. Will Toronto collapse again or finally exorcise their demons? Can Edmonton complete their comeback? Subscribe now to follow our ongoing coverage throughout the Stanley Cup Playoffs!
it's offside with haas and mcguire ready. Yeah, go. Ah. It's offside with haas and mcguire. I'm haas, I'm mcguire, all right, today is a game six of the uh. Ottawa, toronto maple leafs yeah thing that's so. What I'm hoping right now is that we at least get some fucking satisfaction and the Ottawa Senators go to a game seven.
Speaker 2:Be nice.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that's where we're going to move on to hockey right now. Yeah, okay, and then we'll take the pipeline out west and talk about, oh right, so there is no pipeline, okay, and there never will be. Okay. But we'll take it out west and talk about, uh, oh right, so there is no pipeline, okay, uh, and there never will be, okay. But we'll take it out west, okay, and uh, we'll talk about the. Uh, we'll stop in, in in spots on on the way in, uh, in Manitoba, we'll stop there and then we'll move out to uh, to Alberta and we'll talk about those things. But in the meantime, let's talk about the big smoke in Toronto and coming back for game six yeah, I think the big smoke's here in Ottawa tonight is it?
Speaker 2:tonight.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, it is tonight but, I, mean the big smoke, and so much is that Ottawa is making a lot of fire here right now, charging back, winning a couple games in a row, making a series out of it. The thing is, chris, it's not just the fact they've won two in a row, that's happened a billion times in the NHL. It's how pathetic the Leafs looked last game. And do they have enough? By the time everybody sees this, the results will be known, I'm assuming. So it's going to be very interesting tonight to see which Toronto Maple Leaf team shows up, the poor one or the absolutely brutal one, because, frankly, they won two of the first three games in overtime. Anyway, they haven't really looked. We were all sold, we were all told and frankly, I agreed with them. I wrote it and said that this Leaf defense is the best that it's been in the Austin Matthews era, and I don't think that's really changed. For me that thinking, the problem is you've got to score to win games, and they got shut out last game. They had a 2-on-0.
Speaker 1:They had a 2-on-1 with Matthews and they had umpteen breaks. That's one of the Ottawa breakdowns is that they're given a lot of opportunity for those breakaways.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:You don't get that many, but at the same time they're coming back Like Omar played phenomenal, he played very well, you know. Yeah, but I will say this Like I am still nervous about what Toronto can do, of course.
Speaker 1:Okay, will say this like I, I am still nervous about what toronto can do, of course, okay, um, but I'm, I'm, you know, I think that they just they just took it to them. And you know, I mean all the talk last night we played golf last night and then we had, you know, some, so we had some, some pops and dinner, yeah stuff, and the big talk was that marner can't do it in the playoffs. Poor fucking Marner, like the poor bastard, has been the whipping boy.
Speaker 2:What about Matthews?
Speaker 1:Where the hell has he been.
Speaker 2:He's your 69 goal scorer two years ago. Like where the hell has he been?
Speaker 1:Yeah, they may show up tonight. Yeah, they may.
Speaker 2:They've got their 1-13 in elimination games going back to 2018. It's an absolutely staggering record of futility. It absolutely is amazing, and in those losses, that's just a 2018. You can go back a decade before that. They have found some of the most creative ways to lose. It's unfreaking, believable.
Speaker 1:They're almost like the Conservatives. Yeah, that's a good analogy. Actually right now, sadly, sadly yeah.
Speaker 2:And that's where the Leafs are certainly hanging their hat. I mean, this is I can't even imagine if they lose this game tonight they then become the, or Ottawa would become the 12th team, I believe, to at least lose three, win three, not knowing yet how everything seven's going to play out, just like Edmonton did last year. Edmonton, I believe, became the 11th last year lose three, won three, lost, game seven. So what will happen if, in fact, ottawa does win tonight and force a game seven? Who knows? But definitely the eyes of the hockey world will be on this matchup tonight. The Battle of Ontario's already set on the uh on on. On the other side, florida has knocked off Tampa in five games that you know what that's a surprise head too far.
Speaker 1:You got anything else to say about Ottawa, toronto? No, I do, I do listen the the Leafs.
Speaker 2:Right now this is all on them. You say the core four. You can say I heard Brubé's uh pressure, he's trying to deflect it, he's trying to put it on the rest of the guys and to an extent that's correct. First of all, I've never seen Morgan Riley this ineffective. You know, I know he's only one guy, but I mean he's been such a big part of their team.
Speaker 1:Well, to be fair, he was completely effective in games one, two and three. I mean, you know, he did very well in those games.
Speaker 2:He was a force. He scored two goals so far in the series.
Speaker 1:The force for me on, them has been Tanev. Yeah, tanev's been the beast.
Speaker 2:And to a lesser degree Carlo. I don't know, I haven't seen Riley play in the way that I think he can. To your point, look, they won three games. Yeah, You've got to give them credit. The end of the day, Montreal won 10 straight overtime in 93. After a while you start saying, well, I guess it's another fluke. I mean you know, at some point you just find a way to go to the mat and get it done. And you know, for those two games Toronto did, now Ottawa came back and paid it back.
Speaker 2:They did and got an OT on Sanderson, so, but they made it rather academic. I mean Shabbat on the one draw and the screenshot up one, nothing, the shorty. I mean they're 0 for 7 in their last power play. Everybody was talking about the power play in overtime in game four. Well, they haven't scored a power play goal since. So a lot of questions need to be answered by Toronto tonight.
Speaker 1:Otherwise they're going back home for game seven. Can you imagine? Do you think the fix is in? No, Do you think that? Oh yeah, this is like the Chicago.
Speaker 2:Black Sox, the Chicago Black Sox. In what way They've got?
Speaker 1:a bunch of guys throwing the game Some guy is giving them money For financial gains, yeah, or something like that. Okay, I don't know I you know what. I'm just making up shit, yeah it definitely isn't, but it's.
Speaker 2:It's exciting for ottawa. They get another, uh, another home game. It looked like they were seconds away from being swept. Yeah, and now they get another home game and it's just nuts. I've been listening to the radio here driving over here. It's just nuts. Going on at the ctc tonight, uh, big screen back All the bars downtown, the Red Mile, the whole nine yards.
Speaker 1:It's a big thing, man. You know what? It's too bad. It's so fucking cold Really.
Speaker 2:It's not cold out.
Speaker 1:What are you talking about? It's like fucking three degrees.
Speaker 2:No, man, it's like 11. It's warm out Really. I walked in on this Listen diamonds with my nipples. That's how fucking cold it was. Okay, it was earlier today. Now they were calling for maybe some rain tonight, but no, it's, it's not. It's not cold at all right now I don't think, I think most of us all right you know what I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 1:Do you remember when auto actually made it to the finals and we had, yeah, and we had the like, the, uh, the tailgates at the sea at the? What was that?
Speaker 2:yeah, it was the scotia. See at the. What was that? Yes, 2007. It was the.
Speaker 1:Scotiabank place at the time or whatever, but you know what that was awesome.
Speaker 2:You know what? I'll tell you nice weather, nice weather.
Speaker 1:Go have a barbecue outside. You know what I mean. Go back in, go to the rink, see the game. I tell you. You know what?
Speaker 2:Florida they got two NHL teams in Florida yeah, fucking warm down there five years in a row, man.
Speaker 1:I know well, I honestly so let's move on to that. So. So this was a surprise to me that the Panthers just fucking walked basically over Tampa. Yeah, because Tampa, tampa was a hell of a team, but in my opinion, from what I saw, the goaltending was not up to its normal extraordinary play.
Speaker 2:Well, you look at the game winner last night, scored by Bennett, coming out of the box. They serve a penalty. They kill it. He comes out of the box. It's basically an elongated two-on-one, if you will. Because of the the width, he was over on the right hand side, he picks it in. He's got all the room to move in. He fired like that shot. That's an all-world shot, under the blocker, over the pad. Like Vasilevsky, he's out at the top of the crease. He's been one of the best goaltenders in the NHL for yeah, in his time.
Speaker 2:he's a Stanley winner, he's a Consmite Trophy winner. He got beat by a better shot. And then they lose to Nairn, who's become maybe the most unheralded second or third line center currently in the playoffs right now scores the insurance goal. They get a sixth one, end up winning 6-3, win the series in five. And I don't think anybody predicted that, chris, but I think most people probably predicted Florida to win the series?
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:However, with Tampa you just never really know. It's the other things that went on. You know, eckblad comes back from a 20-game suspension for steroids, plays two games and gets suspended again Like that was vicious. The hit on Hagel and, of course, the Florida fans are going well too, goddamn bad. Look at the hit he put on Barkoff.
Speaker 1:Well, and you know what Again. So that's something I want to talk about Vicious, vicious. There's been a lot of bad hits this playoffs. Yeah, okay, across. And you bring up the Barkoff thing, and you know what. And, as I was when I was editing- that and Hagel got suspended for that. Yeah, okay, and he deserved it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, I agree, but we had talked about the Kachuk hit on that hit.
Speaker 2:And you know what?
Speaker 1:He got the five. But the reason they did the five and I was just thinking about this and we never got into it, but they did the five so that they could review it that was like I think that's why they called the five, because really and truly, and then when they decided that they did a quick, like you know, they didn't go any further with it. Now, the difference between the Barkov hit and that hit and why and just for people out there, one of the reasons why they didn't suspend Kachuk was because Barkov never touched the puck.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Whereas Gensel had just dished it Right, okay, yeah, and so that's the difference Somebody asked me about that Blade hit versus a blatant cheap shot.
Speaker 2:That's right, exactly which brings in, when we get to it, shen on Shifley.
Speaker 1:Well, that's where we're going. We're heading, we're piping it out. Okay, we're going to take the hangout section some natural gas, okay. Uh, I didn't really do that, I was just using that as a segue. I gotcha, okay. So, but we're going to head out, we're going to pipe ourselves out to, uh, to manitoba now yeah okay, and we're going to talk about the uh, the winni, yeah Okay, which, frankly, have not had a lot of fuel.
Speaker 2:No, not a lot of fuel for the Jets.
Speaker 1:They've not been as impressive as they should have been, but that leads us to another hit.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, first of all, huge win for Winnipeg last night. I mean, they go to St Louis, get absolutely walked and Hellebck gets pulled twice. He made an incredible save last night, probably the save of the series so far for him, and he still allows three goals, but they get the W last night. But all everybody is talking about is the two hits on Scheifele. The first one that was initiated by Shen no penalty on the play at all for anything and then the second one where Shifley kind of ran into Faska and absorbed the hit which ultimately led to him leaving the game.
Speaker 2:Just driving over here was announced that Shifley will not travel to St Louis, so he's out of the lineup for sure. So that's devastating. He's the number one center by far and probably should have been in the four nation. You can make the argument anyway, it doesn't matter. Canada won, but I mean he's all world, and now he's out for the next game in St Louis. So the Shen hit. We'll deal with that one first and then we can talk about, maybe, the war of words between the coaches after.
Speaker 1:Because that's very entertaining.
Speaker 2:It is entertaining. It is how much. How many fines are related to that, like, how many fines will they get? They won't get any because they well, I don't think so. I I think it was kept uh down on the down, low enough, where they each made a comment directed toward that particular hit, yeah, yeah or hits yeah nothing against, uh, um, the the officiating and nothing. Well, yes, yes, it was. I mean O'Neal did allude to the fact that you know that it wasn't even looked at, so he did.
Speaker 2:He did take a shot, but he didn't really make it directive, in my opinion enough where I think he's going to face a fine. However, look at it, shifley had just touched the puck. You're talking about what happened with Gensel Went to chuck, hit him, about what happened with Gensel went to chuck, hit him. Yeah, scheible had touched the puck. Even less it's the nature or the force of the hit by Shen and I think that's got Arneal really pissed off well, because it becomes charging at that point it looked like you could have called something.
Speaker 2:Plus, his skates came off the ice and I know what the benefit. You've played hockey long enough. Anybody who's played that. If you make any contact, it's quite common for your, for your skates to come up. I mean it's, it's it the physicality of making a hit when you're coming in. Especially these are big bodies. Shen's a big man yeah he's coming in making a hit and he came off the ice. Well, you're going, there's a no.
Speaker 1:The question is the question and this is the issue is did he leave the ice before his physical contact? Because you're right, but a lot of guys will do the jump like that little extra, yeah, tom. Wilson. No, but listen, it happens more often than not and it's a natural reaction. It's not even something that sometimes you think about. It's just one of those things fuck, I'm going to brace, I'm going to be hitting somebody, but you can consider the source too.
Speaker 2:And I don't think Shen's Nolan. He's a physical guy, him and his brother both. There's only been seven brothers to play a thousand games in the NHL. There are two of them and they deserve all the accolades they've got. Their careers have been very interesting. When you break it all down historically and all that, at the end of the day he's a very physical hockey player. Right, they've been targeting Shifley, and rightfully so. He's their go-to guy. And you know Montgomery says well, hold on a second, he didn't leave. So Montgomery says well, hold on a second, he didn't leave. He played six more minutes after the Shifley hit. It was the Faska hit after he left, or?
Speaker 1:Neil Tellers, you know, you saw it.
Speaker 2:Says well, I didn't realize Monty's a doctor and I can tell when.
Speaker 1:Shifley got hurt, which is pretty funny At the end of the day now.
Speaker 2:it's not funny. Shifley's not traveling, so what do you think Did deserve a penalty on the play?
Speaker 1:you know what in in my opinion? Uh, no, I don't think so either. Okay, first of all, you can't call interference the puck's there, that's right number two.
Speaker 2:So what do you call?
Speaker 1:well, so the only, only other call would be I mean, we're charging, yeah, right, and and but he didn't take three strides or four, even he didn't charge into him well, and that's so you know, like I don't know what you call well, I know I don't know what the hell you call it's yeah, you know it's like it's a hard one but it's a.
Speaker 2:It's a vicious game, especially come playoff time and, yeah, you know we have a tendency to forget, year to year, just the other incidents that happen all the time in hockey they go back. I can quote most of them.
Speaker 1:Well, christ a year ago today, or pretty close to a year ago today, and they just cleared the young guy. By the way, the hit at the blue line where the guy's skate came around and cut the guy's neck in the UK.
Speaker 2:Oh in the UK, yeah In the UK that was just a year ago. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so he was just cleared. They're not going to continue with charges against the guy, but things happen, and you know what this is one of. I mean I don't want to quote Clint Malarchuk, but shit happens. You know what I mean. Like, these things do happen. It's a dangerous sport with fucking knives on your feet, yeah.
Speaker 2:Weapons in your hands.
Speaker 1:And incredibly fit and strong guys in the peak of their they're all alpha males, almost everyone. And in the peak of their.
Speaker 2:Physicality, physicality. You know what I mean. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:And hurling around at 40 and 50 miles an hour.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. On the ice, yeah. You know, I mean. You know it's amazing that more guys aren't hurt more often Well at the end of the day, I don't think.
Speaker 2:I think what was done on the ice was right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know I would agree.
Speaker 2:I don't think that Shen deserved a penalty, and I mean I know his skates came off the ice, but I just think in the normal course of making contact that happens 90% of the time and it's just it's that being said, I I feel for the it was a vicious hit I feel for the jets I do, I would like this, like I mean, listen, I I want to see the jets, you know, move forward, okay.
Speaker 1:Uh, at the end of the day, if I, if I have an opportunity to choose between two teams, okay. Um, ever since gary under retired, I don't cheer for the Blues, or Bernie for Dirkhoff. He played for some other teams after that, I know, and Bernie did too.
Speaker 2:But they were longtime Blues and that's a great name to throw up. He did hold the Ironman record at one point in 914 games, until Doug Jarvis passed it. And now, of course, it's held by Yandel, I guess.
Speaker 1:No, I thought it's. What's his name. No, it's Kessel, it's Bill Kessel, bill Kessel. Kessel beat Yandel. Yeah, Shrop sees Kessel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, kessel went over 1,000 games.
Speaker 1:I don't even think he's filed his papers.
Speaker 2:I think he's still hoping to Whoops, I'm dropping your, you're busting things up here Got that bud, there you go there. Those are some dogs playing cards. That's very, very good. Can we get that in the picture? Is that in the picture.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know, I'm not sure. I'm not sure if we got that. Yeah, it is. You know what Classic shot Anytime you've got dogs and you personify them by playing cards or pool.
Speaker 2:They drink a little.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they got a pint, yeah yeah, of course, yeah, so, and anytime you have that, that's great art. Yeah, that and Elvis paintings.
Speaker 2:Elvis yeah, can't go wrong, can't go wrong.
Speaker 1:You can't go wrong with those things.
Speaker 2:Okay, paintings, or velvet can't go wrong. You can't go wrong with those things.
Speaker 1:Uh, okay, so let's we're gonna, we're gonna chug, chug, chug, okay, well, we're gonna, we'll come back. We're gonna finish on the habs because, okay, because that's they're, they're done, right.
Speaker 2:So I oh, sorry they are. I didn't. I didn't mean it's the best of nine, I didn't mean to spoil it, okay, so we're gonna chug, chug, chug, changing the rules changing.
Speaker 1:Oh, fuck that, uh we're gonna chug, chug, chug chug. Changing the rules. Changing the rules? Fuck that. We're going to chug, chug, chug. We're going to take a train because we don't have a pipeline.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Okay, out to Edmonton. If you had a pipeline you wouldn't have to take a train and then you wouldn't have these great fucking disasters like in Lac Magnifique there or whatever. Okay, yeah, yeah, it's terrible. Anyways, I don't know why I like Harper on it, but we're heading out to Alberta, okay, so Edmonton Oilers are now, in my opinion, in the driver's seat. Well, no question, right, I didn't see it coming.
Speaker 2:You thought they were going to get. I thought they were definitely not going to win this series. When that call went out I said they'll be competitive. But this LA team you know everyone talks about this being the best Leaf team in the Matthews era. I felt in the last since they won their last cup, the Los Angeles.
Speaker 1:Kings.
Speaker 2:I felt this was the best edition that they've had since 2014. And they won the first two games, chris, and they were totally in control yeah, well, I, I'll be honest.
Speaker 1:I, you know I don't get to see la very often, like I don't see the games right, okay, and so I I didn't have any. I mean, okay, you see stats, you see this, but I had no idea that they were as good as they were until I saw the first game and I was like, oh, this is a solid, freaking team and big boys, big boys, okay yeah, you know, and so I was like a mix of vets and youth well, yeah, you know what?
Speaker 1:and like we were saying, like I mean dowdy, like I, I was so impressed with his play energized.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean as well.
Speaker 1:I mean, and he's and he's actually a lot of people know this, but he actually played during the time of the original six People don't know that he was, you know and then he later on he moved on. He played for the Oakland Seals.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And then he's yeah, it does seem like he's been around that long.
Speaker 1:Well, he has been. But I mean, have you seen he's actually lost all his teeth, and not from sticks, from rot, that's how old they are, him and Mick Jagger, you know, so he's. Anyway. They played really well, yeah, and, but Until the last game. Well, you know what?
Speaker 2:I think that was bizarre, that first period. I just couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. It's like someone forgot to tell LA hello the game started.
Speaker 1:No, no, honestly, I just think that the McDavid dry cycle train kicked into gear. You know know what I mean, that whole and the whole team.
Speaker 2:They did nothing last game until the empty net goal and you know it was they did. It's only time they got in the scoreboard. You know it was. It was your, your secondary scoring, if you will that that contributed on those first two goals and and it's just a way I mean, they outshot LA something like 19-6 or 20-6 in the first period. The ice was tilted like that. It was a miracle they weren't up 2 or 3-0. And LA's hanging around looking available, but Edmonton just really didn't give them hardly any room to breathe.
Speaker 1:Well, we'll see tonight.
Speaker 2:Right, We'll see tonight if they can close the deal, because it's been four years in a row. I can tell you one line LA fans are losing their minds.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:Losing their minds on the fact that they could be losing to Edmonton again. When they won the first two games, when it looked like they finally had a roster, went at home out the Oilers' number one defense, defense went out and it just looked like. Regardless of Connor McDavid, let's be honest he hasn't got a Stanley Cup yet, notwithstanding the unbelievable play he exhibited last year in the playoffs and at the end of the day it looked like things were ready for LA to make a move here, yeah.
Speaker 2:And start to go down the playoff path that they did so successfully before, in the middle part of the 2000s, here winning those two cups, and now maybe not so much, we'll see, like you said, we'll see.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, we'll see what happens tonight.
Speaker 1:I'm excited to watch that and I like I'll tell you, the other night I I stayed up to watch it all and oh yeah, well, yeah, I you know I'm not as old as I thought I was, but uh, but oh my god, like this, they got to move these teams into a different time zone or something like this is ridiculous, like this whole okay, and and I like the fact that I can watch one game and then, you know, move on to the next game over by 1 am at the latest, I mean it was three o'clock.
Speaker 2:The hell are you talking about?
Speaker 1:I? Oh no, sorry, that was the election three o'clock. It's three o'clock, yeah sorry no, I, I had a rough week I was up, I was up, I was up to the p and righty at three.
Speaker 2:They're still counting them now. There's a couple polls still open, you know what I mean, that's the uh.
Speaker 1:Well, it was really hard to count them because someone kept stuffing new ones into the box. Yeah, um, uh and um, I and I actually, yeah, fuckers well, it took longer to go through everybody's ballot because of 91 names is.
Speaker 2:It's ridiculous. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life.
Speaker 1:I I don't know, maybe I don't know what, no, no, and and only in that one, writing the one right and only in, pierre paulie is right. I mean, yeah, you cannot anybody, I don't care who the fuck you are, you cannot justify that kind of manipulation.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, and you know, and making it difficult, and you know there are a lot of people who were like. You know what I mean Older people. I had a buddy of mine, okay, who his mom voted and she called, called, she goes like I. I hope I did the right thing, okay, I hope I did like. I don't know if I, because with all those things and all those check marks they're looking at it the mind does play tricks on you, whether or not. Which, which side are you going to put your check mark on? Where are you going to?
Speaker 1:you know what I mean yeah, and so I you know I I'm not saying that that was certainly not the sole reason. The gerrymandering, the ballot stuffing, all of that, the vilification, all the things that go on here in this, you know, manipulated election.
Speaker 2:Well, you think the Libs are going to roll four years here.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no. I can tell you what's going to happen.
Speaker 2:Tell me, tell me, here's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1:So Pierre Polyev is going to take over or a by-election. He's going to be a by-election with either Cheryl Gallant okay, or there's a.
Speaker 2:Iowa West. Iowa West in.
Speaker 1:Edmonton yeah, in Edmonton has offered so both have offered, is my understanding to step down to allow a by-election to happen. At which time Now, if the Liberals have not stepped up their policy and really actually started to build a fucking pipeline by this point, what will happen is that it will trigger a when they, when they, when they do their budget, yep, okay, when they introduce the budget, it's automatically, the budget is automatically a vote of confidence, right, and so if the budget does not pass, the government falls, as it did in 1979 with Joe, who are Joe, who know who, yeah, who, okay, so so, to that end, by Chris, the budget will balance itself, yeah right and what you don't know.
Speaker 1:You know what they're gonna pay for all this new build, everything like that, with not with oil and gas money, not with minerals, not with the do. We're not gonna do that a ticket. Okay, probably, that's probably, you know, not with oil and gas money, not with minerals, not with Nevada tickets from the region, probably. That's probably you know what. No, you know what. They're going to tax the shit out of anybody who has any money who's already paid tax on their money.
Speaker 1:Well, okay, but you know what? I don't have a fucking pension, and no, you neither do you. But I don't have a pension to sit back and say, okay, at least I'm taken care of. I don't have that, so I have to. Whatever I have I got to keep hold of I've paid tax on everything already.
Speaker 2:I think he has one now. I think.
Speaker 1:Wow, he never needed it. He was a millionaire before. He was the millionaire NDP leader. That was the thing. That's the most hilarious thing. The guy had a Rolex and he's the leader of the NDP. Like how fucking ridiculous is that. Like I'm sorry, I grew up when the NDP was Ed Broadbent. You know, john Rodriguez was my grade school principal.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:And he was a member of Parliament for a long. I mean, you know, know, these were guys they were.
Speaker 1:They were working class guys who had passion who believed in things and I you know um and uh, yeah, so I I jughead, sing, uh, I come on like I don't know over the years, like if you watch the transition, you know you see guys like you watch people who become the president, right, all of All of a sudden they get gray hair. They start out with dark hair, then by the time they're in there, their hair is gray. Jagmeet Singh, okay, started off and he has the turban right, he wears the turban. That turban. It's seven feet tall. He looks like fucking Marge Simpson. Now, it's unbelievable. And no offense, I honor the guy for wearing the tournament, but really does it have to get that tall?
Speaker 2:like I mean, well, he's gone fishing full time now. So wow, let's, let's just hope that party right in the ground, all those not supporting we could have had uh paul, he had his prime minister a couple years ago and oh and, and we could have.
Speaker 1:We could have we wouldn't be in the position that we are in with the united states right now. And I want to say something about that, because Kristen's down in the United States right now. Do you know how welcoming everybody in the United States was for people going down? Amazing, at the border there was no threats of you're going to be arrested, all this stuff that they're talking about, okay, of people you know they're coming to the border and they're having problems and this and that, another visa and this, and that it's all people who have scammed the system in some way and there was like hair on that issue. Okay, it's like everyone else is being treated like.
Speaker 1:I've crossed the border at least seven times since the issue, okay, and I've never been treated in anything but respectfully. Okay, and you know what? To have people in our press, in our CBC and the like, going on and saying negative things about Americans and the US border people and this, and that it doesn't do anything, it's just lies, and you're propagating myth and hate, right, and I don't like it. I don't like it at all and I'm embarrassed, actually, at that behavior. You know it drives me fucking batty, yeah, anyway, let's move on to La Belle Provence, yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:The original separatist province in this country, okay, before Alberta. Andaskatchewan, yeah, okay, and manitoba too, okay. So before the west separated, we had the the upstarts in quebec yes, okay.
Speaker 2:Who lost every referendum by the?
Speaker 1:way. That's right. And, by the way, I'm going to tell you this uh, it's pronounced quebec, quebec, right.
Speaker 2:Quebec.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, not Quebec, quebec, yeah, quebec, quebec, yeah. But if you're francophone you say Quebec.
Speaker 2:I suppose, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, okay, but it's not Quebec.
Speaker 1:It's like, well, you don't say Quebec, no, I was correct. Did I tell you this? I don't. So this happened to be in the United States. And it's this guy who is of French, canadian heritage. Okay, he has a name like it's Gautier, okay, right, yeah, but they pronounce it Gautier, oh, okay, oh, yeah, my name's Gautier, really, how do you spell that? Like Gautier, okay, and he goes. So I said, and he was asking me where Ottawa was, yeah, and I said it's on the Ontario-Quebec border, yeah, and he goes, it's pronounced Queebec, queebec. And I thought he was actually joking, but he was fucking serious. He thought that that's how it was pronounced.
Speaker 1:So I stabbed him. No, I didn't stab him. And then I said no, it's actually, it's Quebec. And I went on and okay, and he says well, I'm French-Canadian. I said really, and then I said c'est pas français. Well, you know, back, you know, 150, 200 years ago, you know, somebody you know lived in Quebec, came down the Goat Ears right and changed their name, they became American and whatever. And they live up in Dakota's area, sure, and what's the other state, like Wisconsin and I don't know that whole area down there. I don't know I understand the map. I just can't come to think of it right now. I know it's south of Lake of the Woods, that's all I'm saying. Okay, lake of the Woods, that's all I'm saying. Okay, anyhow, to that end, let's talk about the separatists, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, they're not the separatists, obviously, okay.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, the Montreal Canadiens, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, much better, yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Who's got the most Canadian name in the NHL? Obviously, Montreal Canadiens.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, the Halifax Mooseheads.
Speaker 2:Well, they're not in the NHL. All right, you're right. Yeah, oh, the Habs had a hell of a season and you know that was going to be said by all of us as Hab fans. With the defeat looming, I'll tell you what, man. They didn't go quiet in the night. If you watched that game last night, those first 10 minutes they were. They were all over Washington. They deserved a better fate. There's no doubt. Logan Thompson.
Speaker 1:But they had two goals and two shots. I mean, Washington did.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, the first one was Ovi on a power play, which he has done 350 times, and you know. The second one was kind of a broken play. Caulfield missed picking up his man, chikrin bounced it off Doba's skate into the corner. Not a great goal, not a goal really that you could really put a tip or fall to anybody. They're up 2-0, where Montreal should have at least had the one or two goals.
Speaker 1:It comes down to power play. That was the cripple the Caps.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure. Look, they lost to the Capitals man.
Speaker 1:There's no shame in this here.
Speaker 2:They weren't even supposed to be in the playoffs. So you know, that's my point in all this. I think it's pretty obvious that going five games against the Caps, with the games all being relatively close, like Nick Suzuki said, he's hurting. When he said it, they got him post-game. He's the captain, he's got to speak and yeah, it sucks right now, but we felt we could have won any game and he's right. They could have the better team won the series, make no mistake, and the Caps are full measure for it. They're first in the Eastern Conference, so it'll be interesting to see. No one even probably this is probably the New Jersey-Carolina game outside of those two cities and states. I don't think anybody else watched.
Speaker 1:No, I never saw a single thing.
Speaker 2:I did because I watch everything, but uh, having said that, new jersey is missing half their roster and still gave carolina a hell of a go, I mean, we'll see how this plays out. I can't see carolina hold much of a candle. Washington, however, caps montreal, uh, and they had. They had their share of controversy too right like it became the tom wilson show there in game four with his hit on Carrier.
Speaker 2:There's no doubt about it. It's unfortunate that him and Jack I only had the one shift against each other last night and they came down in the corner and I don't know if you saw it or not.
Speaker 2:But there was a little bit of confrontation there and, jack, I said something to him. Tom tried to get back. They got broken up by officials. Tom tried to get back, they got broken up by officials and him and Anderson never came together. They showed them in the handshake line and they exchanged. They've known each other a long long time. Well, they fought in junior. Yeah, I mean, they go way back.
Speaker 1:Now here's the question, Because I know guys who have fought, who actually, you know, I can say friends, but respect each other, sure, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I, I say friends, but respect each other, sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't get the sense that a lot of guys are feeling the same way about Wilson, no, but maybe they do Well you don't think there should have been a penalty on the carrier hit, do you? No, To be honest with you, I didn't think that I mean, aside from the melee in the bench.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that was penalized perfectly. No, no, yeah.
Speaker 1:Aside from that, I don't think there was anything that was outrageous. No, Right or egregious is the word right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, egregious Okay.
Speaker 1:I don't think there was anything like that. So for me to be pissed with a guy, for him, you know, whatever it's got to be something big. You know what I mean. That I feel is Sure like. Egregious Like.
Speaker 2:Eckblad on Hagel. That was a brutal, brutal, brutal hit. That's a forearm with the elbow pads today right in the jaw and face area. So they handled it. He got a two game suspension, yeah, come playoff time, which is, you know, which everybody says is worth double in the regular season right and uh, you know now he's coming off a 20 game suspension, but it wasn't for anything on the ice. Right, it's steroids off the ice and he's made his excuses and whatever. For it.
Speaker 1:Wow, you know what? What was the excuses, by the way, oh you know just all.
Speaker 2:I took stuff I didn't realize it had a steroid component in the medication. He sang the same song and dance that everybody gets caught with what steroid says maybe it's cough medicine.
Speaker 1:Is that what it was?
Speaker 2:I don't know I, I didn't even really read that much into it he didn't. He didn't you know what?
Speaker 1:I don't care how did they catch him like was it Well?
Speaker 2:there's testing.
Speaker 1:Is there? Oh yeah, everybody's tested. Is it random, like it's not all the time, it's random, but you're given like. Yeah, they go in. You're given like a date. When the reporters go in they see his nuts have shriveled up to nothing.
Speaker 2:They go look it's, there's Barry Bonds, and then there's everybody else. You know, I mean the guy's head actually grew. I mean, come on, I mean whatever Ekblad used, I don't know, but it's ironic, hang on, so you can like.
Speaker 1:Certainly you can actually grow, because I I, if there is I would like to get some steroids for my cock.
Speaker 2:I want to get. I you know, sorry folks, I opened it, I put it on. That was a t-ball shot right there.
Speaker 1:Well, that's Chris playing a little tee ball, absolutely Listen. I don't know anybody out there. Even John Holmes would like a bigger call. Okay, I don't care where you are, who you are. You get to the point where it's like, yeah, you know what? I would really like to be there. I would like to be a freak of nature.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, I want moving forward. Okay, I don't want people to say, oh, you know, he's an amusing guy. I want to go wow, have you seen his hammer? That's what I want, but being of Irish descent or, as they say, one of the little people, yeah, you know, we move on, we move on.
Speaker 2:We're probably just about done, I guess. But, I mean I'll finish on this with the Habs, because the youth on the team, you know, the last time they had this type of youth has been pointed out was 1987. Right, and when they won the Cup in 86, they set an NHL record for the most rookies on the roster and then subsequently the most rookies to get actually their name engraved on the Cup, because not every rookie that came up from Sherbrooke got their name on the Cup.
Speaker 1:You need five games.
Speaker 2:No, you're supposed to play either half the regular season or at least one game in the final.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, In the final, not the playoff. Yeah, in the final.
Speaker 2:Now you can petition and a lot of players have not a lot, but a number have by their GMs and ownership groups or coaches and whatnot. You can petition and, like Eddie Olchek and Mike Hartman with the Rangers in 94, you know, and when Boston won the cup in 2011, they petitioned a few guys as well and weren't successful. So you know it goes both ways. They try and be very judicial about it.
Speaker 1:You just got to know the engraver.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would help. There's been so many mistakes made. Slide them a 50. Slide them something. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:It'd be a US dollar, because Canadians are not worth anything. Pass the chaperone, or something.
Speaker 2:Probably get it done. But you know what, at the end of the day and everyone knew that, every Hab fan was going to say this it absolutely was a spectacular season. Nobody expected them. Nobody expected them to make the playoffs, nobody expected them to win a game against Washington, nobody expected the games to be close. They gave them all they could handle. You could see where the veteran play and the older play of the established Caps were the difference. They got it done, especially last night. Montreal had those power plays Didn't get it done. Caps scored twice on the power play, got it done and the better team won. But Montreal and their fans should hold their head high. I, for one, cannot wait for the start of next season, demidoff looks should hold their head high.
Speaker 2:I for one cannot wait for a start of next season. Damodoff looks like a beauty. Hudson's going to win the Calder.
Speaker 1:And the future is very, very, very, very bright. So just to go back, I'm going to backtrack to the beginning of the season. So what you're saying is you were wrong at the beginning of the season because you said they wouldn't make the playoffs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was wrong, so you were wrong.
Speaker 1:So there it is. Lee McGuire was wrong. Yeah, and on that we're going to end the show, all right.
Speaker 2:Come back next year where I'll be wrong again about something I guarantee you. I'm picking Ottawa to win tonight. So what do you think?
Speaker 1:Do you know what I want it? You know what? Here's the thing. Make a call If I wish it to happen. Maybe it'll come true, like I'm, like a liberal voter, okay. So I'm going to say it's going to be the Senators, Okay.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:It'll be the Senators, all right. Okay, and you know what they're going to do. They're going to stuff that net like a fucking ballot box. That's what they're going to do. All right, this has been Offside with Haas McGuire, I'm Haas, I'm McGuire.
Speaker 2:G'day.
