Join Traneisha and Michael Coleman, as they discuss tennis and music. Sharing the beats that currently fuel our souls, from the unmissable rhythms of 21 Savage to the timeless vibes of Beyoncé, while dissecting the art of digesting new albums, spotlighting the day's standout tracks that continue to shape our musical world.
Stay tuned for a hilarious blooper that sneaks its way into the outro proving that even in the most polished conversations, laughter truly is the best medicine.
Join Traneisha and Michael Coleman, as they discuss tennis and music. Sharing the beats that currently fuel our souls, from the unmissable rhythms of 21 Savage to the timeless vibes of Beyoncé, while dissecting the art of digesting new albums, spotlighting the day's standout tracks that continue to shape our musical world.
Stay tuned for a hilarious blooper that sneaks its way into the outro proving that even in the most polished conversations, laughter truly is the best medicine.
What's up, gang? It's Trenisha English and you are listening to the Things you Should Know. Podcast.
Speaker 2:Yuki.
Speaker 1:Alright, what's up everybody. This is Trenisha English, and this is Things you Should Know podcast. Welcome back. Thank you so much for listening. I've got a really good friend, great guest today, the man known by both of his names, first and last, michael Coleman. What's up, mike?
Speaker 2:Hey, what's up.
Speaker 1:I usually refer to you as G, so it's actually really weird for me to call you Mike just then. That was strange, and I usually don't. If I'm referring to you by your name, it's Michael Coleman, so I'm sorry. I'm having like an issue right now and that's all recorded. Anyway, how are you doing?
Speaker 2:I'm doing okay.
Speaker 1:Good, good. How's life going? Anything exciting. How's life treating you?
Speaker 2:Life's going okay. I'm just getting ready to go to warmer weather next week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, where are you headed, Columbia?
Speaker 2:Columbia, not South Carolina.
Speaker 1:Not.
Speaker 2:Columbia, the country oh thanks for clarifying that Two O's.
Speaker 1:Two O's. I assumed it was Columbia the country, because you said warmer weather, but yeah, doing like. Are you excited about anything in particular?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're going for a friend's birthday, so I'll just be excited to be out there just to see the locals and see what the community is like. That's my main thing, yeah that's it, do you?
Speaker 1:I mean travel Mike, it's dancing, mike. Travel, mike. Is that what you typically do on these excursions? That you leave? Because I'll say, as someone who follows you on Instagram, you do be out in the community. Mike is for the community, I am.
Speaker 2:I am a community person.
Speaker 1:Yeah, ever since I unity back in Booney. To me that's real yeah, Mike's for the community, Mike's for the people. As always, we got to start this with a mental health check, so I'm going to ask you what are you doing for your mental health right now?
Speaker 2:What I'm doing is I'm working out. I try to work out about five to six times a week. That helps me not go into manic mode or panic mode Either one of them are really bad and when I'm able to work out, I'm able to feel like I can accomplish certain things throughout the day, get through work tests and I'm like I can't believe we're doing this. So that's what I do.
Speaker 1:Do you have a particular time of day that you like to work out, or are you just like if I can get the sweating, it doesn't matter?
Speaker 2:If I can do it in the morning or during lunch, that's better, because as it gets later certain gyms close so and then you're battling that is getting colder out, so I always try to go to morning or in the afternoon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my sister. I reference her a lot on the podcast Shout out to you, lea. It's like a morning workout person and I feel like people who work out on a consistent basis fall into one of two camps either I want to work out in the morning, so I have done something for myself before the day starts, or the camp that I fall into. I'm getting all of this stuff out of the way so that I can reward myself with a workout to end my day like something, ending my day with something that is productive for me. And I don't like the morning. I just don't. If anything before 10am I could pass, just personally.
Speaker 2:I can sympathize, I feel that.
Speaker 1:But what's bringing you joy right now? Are you doing outside of the workout? What else is bringing you joy?
Speaker 2:What's bringing me joy? Just making sure that I'm accomplishing some of the goals that I set. So I'm going back to school currently to get a doctorate. It's something that I wanted to do. I wanted to go to law school. Then I found out about all the debt and how much lawyers make If you're in a certain field of being a lawyer.
Speaker 2:So I was like I'm just going to go with my NPA and then now I'm going to get my doctorate, just sticking to something that I told myself, because if I went to law school I would have had a doctorate degree from that. So that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 1:That's the most current thing. When did that become a thing? Because I've known you since. For those who don't know, me and Mike met in college in undergrad A long time ago. I almost said like yo, and I say that because the world has changed. I think if you could have gone back, over a decade now right. And talked to those two individuals and told them that these would be the people standing in front of them. I'll speak for me. I'll let you speak for you. I'd be like no fucking way, there's no way that that is the life that I'm living.
Speaker 1:So me and Mike go way back, but from the moment that I've met you, you have been fixated on this doctoral degree. Where did that come from?
Speaker 2:I don't know, when I was a kid I used to say I wanted to be a pediatrician and then I found out all the math and science stuff and I was like, oh, those aren't my best grades in school.
Speaker 2:So then I was like I'm going to go to law school, I'm going to be a politician. And then I started doing some of that work and I was like I don't know if I want to really be a politician. So that was when I moved back to Indianapolis. I had a job that was offered to help run a campaign office for the Democratic Party. And I was like I don't know, I need to provide for my daughter, because does this secure that I'm going to have a job afterwards? And they told me no. So I was like I'm just going to stick and roll with the Boys and Girls Club and ride that wave.
Speaker 1:Shout out to the BGC.
Speaker 2:So did that for a number of years and then, as I was back I know this might not have been something I told you I ended up finishing my degree a little bit later, while I was here in Indianapolis. So just coping with having a daughter being a young parent not knowing what to do, making mistakes and learning from that, and then thinking like I got to make some money to provide for her because she's starting to get involved and stuff and she's super involved now.
Speaker 1:She's super involved. You are super involved. Mike is a man of many jobs, many hustles. How do you manage that, though? Right, like we talked about the workout, but it's got to be more than that, because I feel like you are always on the go. You just bought a home. How much of your time do you think you spend in it?
Speaker 2:I feel like I spend a lot of time a lot more than what I initially thought. But yeah, I mean it's good to be in there because it's just so quiet and I can do whatever I want, and I can go downstairs or go upstairs or whatever. So yeah, I'm spending more time in my place than I thought, but it's cool. It's cool.
Speaker 1:I bought a place and I became a homebody and when you told me you were closing on your place I was like, all right, Mike is about to go inside, I feel like you are outside. Mike celebrated his, that he purchased a home, by bringing outside to his inside, and I admire that about you because I'm literally actively right now forcing myself on a weekly basis to go outside, Like literally. I have made a commitment to myself that once a week I'm either going to spend some time like working at a coffee shop or I'm going to go out for happy hour and I'm using finger quotes because in Indiana you can't have happy hour to get to the law, but like the happy hour time, it is illegal in the state of Indiana to sell discounted alcohol for a time period. So if it's a special has to be a special all day, but a random back for people.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I know that and need to commit that to memory. Yeah, so I'm like forcing myself to do that. I mean, I'm two weeks in.
Speaker 2:Okay, keep it going.
Speaker 1:Keep it going. I mean because I used to be an outside cat.
Speaker 2:Mm, hmm, yeah, and then I became an indoor cat. I think it was COVID.
Speaker 1:I will say I think COVID accelerated. I definitely was on a decline, though, if you really think about it right before. Covid COVID, I was definitely becoming a house, that's real.
Speaker 1:The house, the house cat, which is interesting. All right, Anyway, what's up, friends? Let me start by thanking you so much for being a listener to the pod. Really appreciate all the love and support we're getting thus far. With that being said, I need to ask a quick favor of you. First of all, make sure that you rate and review this episode and be sure to share all of our gems and content with everyone out in the world who needs it, and that's everybody, trust me. But secondly, if you haven't already, be sure to follow us on social media and, most importantly, make sure you subscribe to the podcast wherever you get your podcasts. So you've been watching the Australian.
Speaker 2:Yes, I've been watching the Australian Open. Tennis is probably like my third or favorite sport oh ring, what baseball, Basketball, football, Tiss. No, it's basketball and soccer or toss-up. And then it's tennis or football.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going. Basketball, tennis, football is my top baseball and then baseball sizing it for yeah. So first slam of the year is in Australia, super difficult to watch because it's so late, and I appreciate what they do. I mean, they do what they can. It's their slam, so they're prioritizing the big matches for people in Australia. I guess that's what happens during the US Open. But I can't stay up till five o'clock in the morning. I'm not waking up at 5 am. I'm going to tell myself I'm waking up at 5 am. Here's the other thing right, they don't guarantee the start time. So I can wake up at 5 am to watch Alcora's match, but he's not on court yet, so I haven't seen much of the men's side, but I've seen all of Coco's matches.
Speaker 2:I want to give a shout out to YouTube TV. When I'm recording they have an option on the Australia Open where you can skip to a segment and you can click on the match and it says like golf against whoever she's playing or Alcora. I haven't been able to see the Alcora's when he must be dusting people because, I can't even watch a match of this Meb DeViv almost lost.
Speaker 1:Yes, he did. That was who we were just talking.
Speaker 2:Who was racket?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was a lot. I saw some clips from that. I enjoy watching Meb DeViv play. I think I just said that correctly. One of the things that I think is wild is obviously because of the things that are happening in Russia. With Ukraine they have. They are not allowing Russian players to play under their flag, which I wholeheartedly agree with, but I also would make the argument that there are other countries that they should make not play under their flag.
Speaker 2:I can see that and even to take it another step. They allow them to compete in the Olympics.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so are they going to get to? They're going to get to compete in 2024?.
Speaker 2:I don't know that, but they were allowed to compete in the last one. Well, remember so there was, like the doping allegations.
Speaker 1:So they weren't playing under the Russian flag, but it was like a athlete of Russia or something like that. They had been pulled so they did not play. In the last Olympics I had actually great flag. I had not thought about if they would be playing under the Russian flag in this year's Olympics or if they would even be invited as Russian athletes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. That's up to the committee.
Speaker 1:Which is all about money, and so they're going to be there, yeah.
Speaker 2:But before we pivot away from tennis, I want to say Nick Curios is doing a phenomenal job.
Speaker 1:Him in Mac and Roe. I don't know who thought of that combination. But they need a raise, they need to be in charge of programming.
Speaker 2:I was watching while I went online because I was like why is he commentating?
Speaker 1:He's hurt, he's injured and he's from Australia.
Speaker 2:But also people were saying Nick's up here upping John, mac and Roe who's up here being unprofessional? You can't say Ceci Pies' name correctly or something. Ceci Pies, yeah. So people were online saying that and it was like thanks for having a good commentator in there with Mac and Roe, because I was like dang.
Speaker 1:Which I mean John Mac and Roe been giving John Mac and Roe since we've known who John Mac and Roe was. I don't know what y'all are doing on this board. I also thought it was interesting because you know people don't tend to not like Nick Kyrgios because of his behavior, because of his behavior, which I disagree with. I also think that his race, the way that he looks, fine as hell but the complexion of his skin plays into that and the way he dresses.
Speaker 2:He was wearing a Lakers hat. While he was doing One, he's wearing a hoodie. I don't understand that. It must be cold in there because it's summertime there, I think.
Speaker 1:Well, here, yes, it's 100% summertime there. That is just his kind of go.
Speaker 2:That's just what it does.
Speaker 1:There's always the him practicing in the Boston Subtix jerseys.
Speaker 2:It's kind of what he gives.
Speaker 1:I was we'll say was surprised, because even Chris Eubanks put on a polo. I mean that's kind of his jam, the fact that he's sitting there next to Mac and Roe who is in a sports coat.
Speaker 2:And Mac and Roe has his buttons unbuttoned.
Speaker 1:because of it, you might have a chain showing some chest there and they give him a hoodie, a black one, just with you know, with a Lakers hat on and giving some good comments.
Speaker 2:Talking about Cocoa Golf, oh yeah, the first time I saw her, like we were practicing with somebody I can't remember the legend that he said they were practicing with like hitting with, and he said something to her and she said okay, and like she was like all right, and just the way that she was listening, like he told a story about it. He was like oh, I know she's going to be great.
Speaker 1:I know she's going to be great and he was correct, because she is whooping ass and I love Alicia Parks. Alicia Parks is an excellent tennis player. Her and Taylor Townsend Thompson Townsend, taylor Townsend have been fucking murdering in doubles. Cocoa kicked her ass, she's. She's looking so good and the yellow is so reminiscent of Serena.
Speaker 2:So they did a side by side on Instagram of Serena going to serve and Cocoa, oh my God.
Speaker 1:It's just so and we've actually talked about this on the first podcast, when because she we recorded, we've recorded that right after she had won the US Open. It is just so like auntie proud just watching her come into her own and watching black bodies, black women, black youth, people who are younger than us, right, really fill in this place, cause while Serena is older than us, we were there for her rise, like we were able to see it, and just the way people are responding to Cocoa compared to the way that people were responded to Serena. It's just really nice to have seen the Trollblaster and then now see this path of all of the, the women right that Venus and Serena knocked doors down, from starting with your homegirl, sloane. We have different opinions on her, but Cocoa, alicia Parks, taylor just the list goes on and on of the number of black bodies and bodies of color who now have a place, especially an American, in this. So it's really cool.
Speaker 2:It is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, super cool.
Speaker 2:Just want to shout out to Pat McAfee Whenever he says goats and he talks about the goats, he's, like some people be like the Michael Jordan's of the world. He says Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Serena and he's one of the only people that I know that puts Serena in that category. When people are saying goats, People might. When you say goats, they might go like oh yeah, Serena should be in there, but he says it every time.
Speaker 1:What I will say. This is Mike Greeney. When he talks, when he talks about Serena, he talks about her as a great. So I'll throw that out there. I heard Clinton Yates. I listened to the ESPN Daily podcast. Most of the time Clinton Yates literally has is such a Serena fan. He references her as the goat. He doesn't even talk about Michael Jordan or anyone else. He when he says the goat, he is referencing Serena and he is such a fan that he is calling them like Serena Ikes or Serena Fire or something like. He has named people who are fans of Serena and classifies himself as the lead one.
Speaker 2:That's phenomenal.
Speaker 1:And this, jonathan Owens, is how you support black women. You're welcome, simone. That's what that looks like. In case you were wondering, it is that.
Speaker 2:You said, jonathan, I got a little scared, okay.
Speaker 1:Who did you think I was gonna say Come on now.
Speaker 2:It was just this holiday, right, it was.
Speaker 1:The men out there looking for credits. No, I tried not to talk about him at all on the record. Moving on yeah, we'll leave that there.
Speaker 1:2024 is an election year. Legislators around the country have started. What is so here's? I will say this also harkens back to a past, ever since Local government is so much fun, sort of. If you take the impending doom out of it. Local government is fun but it's extremely important and, mike, I know both of you and I really try to stay tapped in on what's happening on the local level. So I know we got a good part of the podcast following that is right here In the state of Indiana. So what's on your radar? What are you seeing? What should people know about?
Speaker 2:There's an economic development that will affect the mile square area of downtown and it will also affect Circle Center mall that our city county council passed last year in December due to a state law that was made and then now the state house legislators are have a bill to go against that law that they made in the past.
Speaker 2:That will take away that development down there and it would create some taxes for some businesses and different property owners down there. But I want to say Tuesday A lot of C suite level professionals so that's your chief level executives some business owners and residents were at the state house To testify against the bill in response to the legislation that's been put forth to try to take away that development because it would make changes to downtown. So whether you supported or you don't think you should look into it, look into how the city county council passed it, how many people voted for it if they were in your district, and then also look at the pros and cons of it. And then you have to look at the city council and then you have to look at the city council and then you have to look into the district and then also look at the pros and cons of it and then call your legislators, because that's going to be who's making the ultimate decision, if you know how state of Indiana set up Most of the legislator legislature is Republican.
Speaker 1:So yeah, literally not most. The majority of the legislatures are Republican.
Speaker 2:There's actually a Republican super majority Supplier initiatives for the state and it would affect the city as well. When I say supplier initiatives, that those are initiatives that are put out, that says your black on business or Latinx on business If you're a veteran on business who're trying to take that away and go to a model that another state has I think it's Ohio, but Ohio does stuff differently to still account for the XBE status of the business. So they're trying to use that as their model, but it won't work because we don't have stuff in place. So that's something to also look into as well. But there's, of course, gonna be numerous bills out there and hopefully just stay in the committee.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hope so too. I know there's the bill that is attacking the legalization of gay marriage in the state. There's the removing gender identity as a protected class. There's a lot of kind of not kind of. There's a lot of really backwood shit happening.
Speaker 1:And so, yeah, definitely staying abreast of that, and that is extremely important, especially in an election year where we have the opportunity to really vote in. Not really that is the point of our electoral, our election process that is fair and legal. It's to vote in folks that absolutely represent you and represent your beliefs. And so, yeah, like I said, I have come to believe that it doesn't matter what party a super majority is not the will of, it's not good and it's not usually the will of the people, and not everyone gets represented in those situations. And we've had a super majority here in Indiana for a really long time, which is part of the reason a lot of the laws that we do have on the books are things that have come out of committees and been passed, are happening. So, yeah, yeah, enough with that doom and gloom.
Speaker 2:I have some more.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2:Something to think about. Of course, your state legislators are up for election, but we have a governor that is up for election. Governor Hockham will not be running again, so that means that there will be a person coming into the role that has never been the governor, and so we know that Mike Pence is not running for governor. So there is a United States Senator, mike Braun, that is running on the Republican side, and then I cannot think of the Democratic.
Speaker 1:Her name is Jennifer McCormick.
Speaker 2:Yes, and she was formerly a Republican.
Speaker 1:Yes and has moved to the Democratic Party. So something to consider, a thought that I've heard around because there is a super majority and the likelihood that Jennifer McCormick, who is the Democratic candidate for governor, the likelihood of her winning is low because of the beliefs in the state. Right, I'm not talking about the race that she's gonna run or not saying that she doesn't have a chance, but historically in the state of Indiana, democratic governors do not prosper. That Democrats really need to be paying attention to the Republican primary and it is probably in our best interests to vote in the Republican primary for governor so that we can, at the very least, have a say in who the governor is, because that is actually-.
Speaker 2:I agree.
Speaker 1:The election for governor in the state of Indiana is the Republican primary.
Speaker 2:I agree, and if you know Mike Braun's history, he was one of the people of Congress that went again. Well, originally said, I am not going to certify the election for Joe Biden when Joe Biden was elected president and then January 6th happened and then he reversed course. But making those statements helped incite the language of other people, so that was not beneficial. As you can see, ty Young was like I'm not dealing with that. Yeah. So you had to say I'm not gonna deal with that. But instead he got in front of TV cameras and was on national publicized TV making these statements. I was like do you wanna get reelected?
Speaker 1:Well, here's the thing, right.
Speaker 1:Do you like here In some ways, I do think the answer to that question is yes, and that was a calculated decision on his part to get elected and I'm not here to debate, like how you feel about Trump, like I think that that is a horse that has been like beaten, but I am here to say we know what that was like previously and for folks to be willing to pander for his support, that has to be considered. It has to be considered. I mean, this is how autocracies are created, this is what happens, and I think we think a lot about American democracy, but we have to remember like American democracy, in the grand scheme of things, is new. Yeah, on the makeup of the world.
Speaker 1:So I don't know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting and that could be interesting and that could be why he's not running for Senate anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it could be.
Speaker 2:Interesting.
Speaker 1:Alright anyway, mike. So one of the things that we have bonded on has been a throughline in our friendship from the absolute beginning is music. So what are you listening to? What are you bumping?
Speaker 2:I've been listening to the 21 Savage album.
Speaker 1:Yes, american.
Speaker 2:Dream.
Speaker 1:Well, every time I think about this album, I think about that intro and his mother's accent.
Speaker 2:It just imagined him with an accent.
Speaker 1:And so when I think about the album I need to second, to orient myself. But, yeah, good height. You know how many mics.
Speaker 2:I don't know how many mics. I don't feel like it. Is it his best work. I wouldn't say that I'm trying to go back.
Speaker 1:What would you say is 21? Savage's best, his best?
Speaker 2:album was the one with the lot on it, the song with Jacob. I think that might have been his best. What is it?
Speaker 1:The I Am Greater Than I Was, or something like that. That was a really good album it is Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I think, I mean, I think it's, I mean it's number two. The first album was good, but it was it, was it was good. It was the album, but it wasn't better than I Am, greater Than I Was. Isn't that what it's called, if I?
Speaker 1:put that out.
Speaker 2:Of the thin air. I Am Greater Than I Was.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes. Round of applause for me yes, yes yes, hold on. I think I got it in the I don't know that was laughter. Hold on Round of applause for the girl. That was excellent.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And then, yeah, he has Savage Mode too with Metro Boomer. He got some stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's got all of those things. Yeah, because I'm glad you said I Am Greater Than I Was, because that is a really good piece of work, because I was going to offer her loss as 21's greatest project, which is shady as hell. But but, that would have been incorrect. So thank you for that. Anyway, 21 Savage Yep, what else?
Speaker 2:I'm still. I still got Gunna in rotation oh really yeah. Ironically, I also have Young Thug in rotation.
Speaker 1:Oh now it's a good theme here, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm a big Young Thug fan. He was my number one artist on Spotify, and then I think Gunna was number two, so it says a lot. And then Travis Scott. I still listen to him, but the last album had a lot of features and it leans on a lot of well. His concerts have leaned on all of his previous music.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's like I don't know. His previous shit is excellent.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that just tells you what I think about this album. So there's some songs that are hit still. Still Need Bangers, bangers. Let's roll with that.
Speaker 1:I think that's a Miley Cyrus album too, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, other stuff in rotation Don Toliver still still got some Beyonce still playing.
Speaker 1:Beyonce and heavy rotation for the girl Ella.
Speaker 2:May I need to finish listening to Nicki? Nicki Minaj's album. She has that track with Drake. That's fire.
Speaker 1:She's got a lot. I think that everybody's song has me Everybody's firework Losing. Me and a Chocode.
Speaker 2:What's the new single that is really with Drake? With Drake is great. Oh, ftcu or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Ftcu, yeah. Ftcu, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that goes great.
Speaker 2:She's got some songs in her yeah Tiffy, yeah, she got some songs that's coming.
Speaker 1:But the piece, the work as a full body of work, was really hard for me to get through.
Speaker 2:Okay, and I was listening and I was like, oh, I'm going to listen to this one, this one, this one. I wasn't going straight through.
Speaker 1:Oh, so that's interesting, right? I think this is a conversation that we've never had about what your approach is with new music, because for me, when a new project drops my first listen, I'm listening straight through no skips, because I'm trying to get an idea of what was the artist trying to bring in Sonically.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's usually what I do, but for this album I was just going for oh, I know this artist out here, or I've heard it this time.
Speaker 1:What is your issue with Nicki Minaj? I don't have an issue. I know the Barbz are listening.
Speaker 2:I don't have an issue with Nicki Minaj, I just have historically not listened to Nicki Minaj, so that's on me, if you want to put it that way. So I was like, oh, let me listen to this, let me listen, just moving like that and I'll go through and listen to it straight through. And I was listening to Doja Cat's album a little bit in the same way, but I don't think there's any features in there, so that was a little hard for me to get there.
Speaker 1:Do you discount an album based on the number of features? No, no, okay, I don't. But.
Speaker 2:I was trying to listen to the songs that were most popular. I was like, oh, I feel like I've heard this song Agra Heels or something like that. And I was like oh, I've heard this song, so I was just going around that way.
Speaker 1:So let me. All right, so let me. I'm making an assumption here. I want to clear this up. So it sounds like to me your strategy is, if it is an artist that you are not necessarily, I'll say this not in your top five, I want to say 10, but I'm not going. I'm not going to play your Doja Cat and Nicki Minaj. Stand them like that. If it's not one of your top five artists, you are not instantly because, listen, here's what I'm going to say. I know you ain't skip around that young thug album.
Speaker 2:Sure didn't, and I didn't skip that beyond.
Speaker 1:I don't renaissance, I skip anything on renaissance.
Speaker 2:I just went straight through. I was like, oh, this is sonically hitting. These songs connect, like she just went from this to this.
Speaker 1:They literally there was a point. The first three songs on renaissance. I thought was one song until I looked up and realized we were three songs in.
Speaker 2:I was like um, virgo's groove ain't over. And then, when it ended, I was like uh, move out the way Like is this the same song? I was like because Virgo's groove changed like two or three times I had to look, don't we, I could talk about how that piece of art that Beyonce put out is sonically some of the best stuff that has ever been produced.
Speaker 1:But we won't go there, that's okay. We will stay on Miss Minaj for a second. Um, uh, actually, can we? Actually I would like to leave Miss Minaj. In the past I will say this I used to be a Barb and then it became tough to be associated with the barbdom and so, while I won't say I am not a fan, I definitely enjoy Nikki. Um, I'm very much not a barb and the last few Nikki albums as complete works have been work to listen to, and that is not how I like my music to be. Anyway, uh, so we talked a little bit about what you're listening to currently. What's like the old, like, all right, I often find myself listening to, uh, my beautiful dark fantasy, right, and that I will say I was a junior at IU. That was my junior IU, I think, when the album came out.
Speaker 1:I remember being on the bus riding back to campus corner, which is now called who knows? What? What? Um listening to? Uh, the blame game, like on repeat, cause that was like one of the songs that had me in a chokehold. So when you're feeling nostalgic, I wouldn't even say album who's the artist that you're going to If we're talking about prime time Bloomington 2010.
Speaker 2:Hmm, who am I going back to listen to? I don't know. I mean whenever I hear I just came from Brooklyn. So I went to the Brooklyn public library and I saw the book of hope. So whenever I hear a Jay-Z song, it puts me in a certain space of mind like, oh, I remember when I first heard this and what was going on in life, Cause there's certain songs that I just totally the entire catalog. Not the entire catalog.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Cause I love hope. But we have to be honest. There's a area, there's a period in there Volume two, volume three, over saturation. It was a little too much. But show me what you got. The Budweiser song slaps, I don't care. Kingdom come out, yeah, the intro to that. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:That intro. Yeah, there's a certain thing. So I'd say, jay Kors, kanya, you already talked about that Just because being in high school.
Speaker 1:He was, so he's so controversial but I cannot let him go. He all right, I'm gonna do it. Crazy that they're both from Chicago. I'm gonna set this up. A few months ago, actually probably about six months ago, six, seven months ago, I was at an event and the premise of the event was R&B music. Only, it was an older crowd, you know 45, 40, 45, a little older than us.
Speaker 2:Oh, I already know where you're going.
Speaker 1:They put on an artist that you and I have committed to and a good segment of the population has committed to not supporting. It was the remix to Ignition that was played. Oh, I already know what was what, just for those who might not be able to put those things together which also led into, like bumping ground. You remind me of magic, like it wasn't like oh, we played a snippet. It was like, oh, we put on love by Keisha Cole and everyone in it is supposed to sing along. Like that was the vibe, and these folks in this age group went up to me.
Speaker 1:Kanye West is our Kelly, in the sense that I don't care where I am, I don't care and I don't support the things that he says. But when I hear la, la, la, wait till I get my money right, I'm going up. It's nothing you can do about it and I'm not gonna stop myself and I'm not going to apologize to you for it. I'm just not Like. I'm just not when I hear hey, oh, like when I hear through the wire, when I hear I'm going up, like thanks to Kanye's workout plan, I'm hands on my knees, like that's what's happening for me personally and that is, I was able to give those people some grace. When I realized that, that was, at least in my mind. That is an equivalency.
Speaker 2:So it sounds like Boondocks needs to do another episode and just have and just needs to have.
Speaker 1:Kanye West. Like honestly, like how they did the workout.
Speaker 2:Yeah how they did the workout.
Speaker 1:So because, as quoted in the Boondocks episode, niggas love Kanye. I miss the old Kanye. That is for real, that is real for me, that's real. So anyway, I don't know how we got there.
Speaker 2:Just started talking about music.
Speaker 1:Drake has a similar effect, although not although I know people have strong feelings about Drake. But Drake also has a similar effect for me, like hearing Drake music of a certain time. Just I'm going up.
Speaker 2:I'm just going up. It depends on the song for me, OK, all right, here we go.
Speaker 1:I'm talking with the song. People say that, but don't do that. Views Drake, we was going. Oh you was going to? No, yes, we were going to the clubs when views came out.
Speaker 2:You're right, I was not listening to that. My favorite song on that song on that album is nine.
Speaker 1:Is it?
Speaker 2:You probably don't even know how this song goes.
Speaker 1:No, it's no. Yes, I do now Turn of six to a nine. Now. I do know that song Isn't views hotline bling too.
Speaker 2:If it is, I didn't want to hear it.
Speaker 1:That song went crazy.
Speaker 2:Everyone loved that song. I mean Drake. He totally took from Drake.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but both of the songs went. We used to go for Cha Cha too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cha, cha yeah.
Speaker 1:Cha yeah, no, it's not on that album. Oh, then it must be the album before. What's the album before? Views then.
Speaker 2:It's the album after views that I think Cha Turn of nine was on.
Speaker 1:No, here's goes the music review. Again, it's the album before. After it, the album before is. Nothing was the same.
Speaker 2:Which is my favorite Drake album.
Speaker 1:It's a great Drake album. Oh, so you're right, hotline bling was not on that. No, it wasn't. Is there something in between? Nothing was the same in views.
Speaker 2:No, unless it was just a single that you put on Then what is hotline bling on?
Speaker 1:Anyway, it doesn't actually matter.
Speaker 2:Oh, it pops up on views, so what did I tell y'all?
Speaker 1:What did I tell you? Applause. Look at me killing the music. Trivia.
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, at the bottom.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hotline bling Views went up. We Western Rhodes is on views you.
Speaker 2:I didn't Nothing.
Speaker 1:OK, if you're all right, you heard it here first. Mike Coleman, not a fan of views, hype was on that. Feel no ways.
Speaker 2:Couldn't tell you. I know Grammys Future's on that one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, grammys, child's Play.
Speaker 2:One dance Child's Play best song on that.
Speaker 1:Pop style. That was the pop style.
Speaker 2:Nothing but Child's Play. That is a timeless song.
Speaker 1:That's what she like.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah you can play that anytime, anytime.
Speaker 1:Well, and then there was the oh, because I know he was going up for this, because there's the nice for what? And the that's something.
Speaker 2:Next album yeah, that's the next album, but Controla was on that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That was when he was doing his pandering Controla and one dance.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and he had that right hand, right hand. That was like a Drake single that went nowhere, but that I'm a walk in to my wedding reception to that song.
Speaker 2:Drake has songs on his albums that kind of sound the same. So when I hear one dance, I heard Controla first.
Speaker 1:That's everyone. I heard Controla, that's everyone. But they be back to back.
Speaker 2:But they be back to back.
Speaker 1:Beyonce just put out a whole album that vibes like that, like that's about a groove. Here's the thing, right, y'all hate Drake because he makes dance music, and that's OK. Y'all want to go to the club and y'all want to dance, but y'all want no music to dance to. Y'all mad because Drake gave y'all three dance songs back to back People don't dance.
Speaker 2:They just pull up their pants and do the rock away. People don't dance at the club, they're just leaving it at that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what are clubs for now? Drinking and showing off your outfit, right, I have no idea. Yeah, I think I mean I was about to be like you know, that's what got me out the clubs, cuz they people out there to the club no more. I was not in a club dancing, so that's real.
Speaker 2:I'll be on that dance floor. Uh-huh, this and Mike.
Speaker 1:The rich homie quan hey, got it.
Speaker 2:It is oh oh.
Speaker 1:Mike, anything you want to Make sure the people know.
Speaker 2:I'd say make sure, especially in the economy that we're in, that you're Looking at your 10, your different skills that you have, and hustle, hustle the best way you can. You'll never know when somebody Might need you for something, or if you find a project that you can just make some collateral discretionary income from, do it. And then I'll always network with people because you never know how that's gonna benefit you in the future. So don't, if you go to something, try to meet at least one person, get the LinkedIn or whatever, and then from there they might need you and you might need them in the future. So that's something that I always try to tell people connect, connect, connect, cuz it's important any like top, like three takeaways.
Speaker 1:Right, I'm, you know, just now reentering the outside and I'm looking for some tips or some strategies to connect anything you would tell people.
Speaker 2:I tell people, nba all-stars coming up.
Speaker 1:It is. It's about to be thick in the city.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so there'll be a perfect time. There'll be a lot of mixers during the day. So if you can get away from work, go to those mixers, interact with people and don't just think about the people there in your field, think about people that are in other fields. Or if you went to school for something and you're not in that field, go to something a mixer that more so cater towards your degree and then from there just shake hands and it's a got babies. Kiss the babies.
Speaker 1:Is this still like a business card economy or we officially move to the scan my QR code?
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a hello type of thing that you can scan and then you get every all the social medias, which can be overwhelming. I'm more so like you got a LinkedIn, like if they, if they need a card, depending on the age, you give them a card, but and then, depending on who they are, I'm getting my Instagram, maybe not, but LinkedIn you can definitely catch me on there. You get all the professionals.
Speaker 1:You don't have a professional Instagram. No, I do not but you should invest my.
Speaker 2:Instagram is life.
Speaker 1:It is. It is, but I think someone like you, especially with all the hustle that you do you having a professional Instagram could be, it could be a benefit.
Speaker 2:Hey, that's not a bad idea. I just got find the time.
Speaker 1:As someone who is now currently managing to Instagram account. Oh, wow it is not as difficult as you think it will be and it's Listen, this whole AI situation as how they're integrating things. I you can feel how you feel and I definitely have my feelings about it, but they're definitely some upsides. So, yeah, I definitely For you and anyone else out there managing multiple accounts. Now, I mean, I'm not talking about like five or six, it's just to it's actually not as bad as you think and it's pretty User-friendly like easy to switch back and forth between them, it's nothing.
Speaker 2:Gotcha, I do that With Facebook account for an organization, do some work for, but I'll never have to post, I just check the messages sometimes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it's like super easy to do it. So, yeah, I think you should think about that. Okay, get you, get the little headshot situation and, roll with it, throw a couple of pictures of I don't know me getting awards or something. I don't know whatever. And then when Cuz it's right is like I mean, connecting through social media is a thing now like.
Speaker 2:That is what people do so.
Speaker 1:Just a hot tip things. You know appreciate it. Yeah Well, mike, it's been so nice chatting with you. Likewise having you here today, appreciate it. I know any we I shoot you any. I might have to cut this, I figured, so Thanks for being here today. Anything that people should know about you know all starts coming up. I know you got your hands on a lot of pot pots. Anything you want to promote.
Speaker 2:Be nimble, do some work with them. If you know them, they're famous for party girl and garden party and Indie night market, but we have other programming that we do but we'll have events coming up. We'll have some that are private, but we're gonna be releasing our events next week and Some of them are ticketed events. Some of them are free. So once you see them and you fall into that category, definitely come, especially as we're looking towards a garden party and although I recruit the volunteers and do some of the community Based stuff with meeting with different organizations. So if you're interested in that, you can reach out to me. Other than that, that's coming up, the trying to get through the winter. I think that's the main thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was just talking about how this weather has really sucked. It's been super, super cold and next week it's supposed to warm up, which is gonna make everybody sick. So take care of yourself. That's real vitamin C vitamin C electrolytes eat, right, I Don't know all that stuff. Yeah, we will get your Instagram contact. You said are do you said DM you right if they want to volunteer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's fine so yeah, we'll get Mike to set up his professional Instagram and we'll get that. Thanks for listening to the things you should know podcast. It's been a pleasure Like subscribe, rate, review, all that good stuff. We'll see you next time, bye, bye.
Speaker 2:All right track list. Cruel prelude don't be cruel. My prerogative, ronny Rockwich. Every little step I'll be good to you. Take it slow, all day, all night. I really love you, girl. Cruel reprise I'll just let my eyes, let my songs.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was so gross I don't have to cut that out. Ha ha ha. That's gonna be the outro, Without further ado. We'll do anything fun and