Enjoy this bonus episode that includes a discussion about the greatest R&B album of all time.
Enjoy this bonus episode that includes a discussion about the greatest R&B album of all time.
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Speaker 2:Wherever you get your podcast, what's your like old school, like Like I don't know, like I always have like a itch for Stevie Wonder every few months, or I get into Michael Jackson, like I was about to say that yeah, sorry, yeah, I Listen to, I mean some old R&B, so I shock a con.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:I'm a huge shock a fan. I went and saw her for two songs Last year. No, now it's 2022 Indiana State Fair. It started raining in storm and shock was like. I got one more song and she was out of there. But love, shocker, love, anita Baker. Yes, yes some glad is night, of course, yeah. And then there's, there's some timeless songs by artists that might not have the as long as cattle longest catalogs of some of the other artists. I've said so, like Karen white, superwoman, yep you can hear that and I'll be like.
Speaker 2:It just takes me back to like oh, I remember when that came out, oh, when I first heard is no.
Speaker 1:You remember when your mother woke you up and told you it's time to clean up and she was singing superwoman.
Speaker 2:That's what you're hearing it. I remember hearing it with Jerry Wade, yeah.
Speaker 1:RIP Jerry Wade.
Speaker 2:the love of man, yeah so those, those are artists that I gravitate to. Of course, you got the earth-winded fires. Yes, yes depending on how Old you are. Young you are, however you look at it. The new edition, especially the old stuff, and Then when Johnny Gill joined, of course yes, can you stand the rain? And then one of the Arguably the best R&B album of all time. It's, it's debatable. There's one and two, the Bob Bobby Brown, that whole Paragative, yeah, that whole album.
Speaker 1:Who are we debating with?
Speaker 2:people will argue that Confessions is one of the greatest.
Speaker 1:Oh my lord, is this happening in the crevices of the social medias?
Speaker 2:and no, one has invited me. I don't know if that's what's happening, but if when I hear people say the greatest R&B albums of all time, bobby Brown might get mentioned, depending on what the age, but overwhelmingly people say Confessions.
Speaker 1:Here's what I must say, and we are what is it like?
Speaker 2:this is a little bit cruel, don't be cool, don't be cruel.
Speaker 1:My prerogative is on the album. Yes, uh, here's what I was saying. We're what? What? Three, four weeks out from us, you're doing the halftime show. Yes.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:I Would not be upset with anyone who looked me dead in my face in real life and told me that Confessions was the best R&B album of all time. I would not be upset with that at all. It still goes. Usher could get up at the Super Bowl and just Do every song off that album and I would be more than okay with it, as long as he does the falsetto and do it to me like that is Like, that is X, like oh, okay, I was 13. I don't even think I was that old. I was in eighth grade when that album came out. Well, I'll never forget it. I will never forget asking for that album. I'm asking my mother to listen to it in the car and then her not letting me take it out of the car because she liked it and she was like I want to listen to this. You got that little b2k album, listen to that.
Speaker 1:That's one and two. Yeah, one and two.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a good one, we all know was to.
Speaker 1:I don't even want to be in that debate.
Speaker 2:I would need because top to bottom, no skips and low key.
Speaker 1:Each of them I would listen to on repeat, and there are multiple songs on each album that I would play back to back Every time I repeated the album. Yes, yeah, and let it burn is not. Let it burn is the worst song on the confession album.
Speaker 2:I can see why you say that worst and it's still a banger.
Speaker 1:It's still a hit. It is still fire, it is still one of the best army songs ever and it is the worst song on that album.
Speaker 2:It was the lead single. Is it worse than oh?
Speaker 1:Here's every time, nope, no.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, I remember people was making memes with that oh.
Speaker 1:Man and then even the extended with seduction. Yeah, that's a good album. I Will say I haven't. I know be cruel is an excellent out, but don't be cruel is an excellent album. Roanies on that album, right, I want to rock rock with you who I have to pick, usher, not because I think the album is better, but because I was alive when confessions Was released. I Might have been alive when don't be cruel was released. It was like 91.
Speaker 2:So I'm verified.
Speaker 1:Yes but if it was 91, I was not alive enough to be enjoying don't be cruel. And for what it was, what it unlocked for me as a young woman in the world. So I have to pick confessions because of my personal connections to it, not because I think it's a better album.
Speaker 2:Came out in 1988.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I was not alive. Every little step yes, it's a bang. No, I know it goes. Read the track list for me. Because I was looking at just the videos, because the video, the visual, Now and now I'm thinking right cuz the visuals on confessions, where I mean no, cuz him standing in that booth talking about I'm at the studio man, that scene lives in my head rent free. So.
Speaker 2:All right track list. Cruel prelude don't be cruel. My prerogative, roni Rock witch. Every little step I'll be good to you. Take it slow, all day, all night. I really love you, girl. Cruel reprise 11 songs 11 songs 47 minutes.
Speaker 1:Do we know the stats on confession? Confessions has like confessions got like 13, 14 songs oh.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm thinking of the extended version.
Speaker 1:Yeah, me too. I think that that when we are put, when we were talking about the confessions album, you have to talk about the extended version, or expanded, that's what.
Speaker 2:Yeah expanded edition. So whoo, it's a lot of songs 21. Can you do some foam? And I don't even see it without the expanded version, and it's a spot.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, let me get the.
Speaker 1:Apple music might have to Google, although you can find the podcast on both Spotify and Apple music. I have the confessions album saved in my library on my Apple music. So, oh please, cuz I revisited at least months every couple of months. All right, oh, no, 2004. Oh, I was 13 when it came out. Yeah, throw it back. Confessions, confessions part two, burn, caught up. Superstar, superstar interlude, and then superstar Truth, hearts, simple things. Bad girl, that's what it's made for. Can you handle it? Do it to me, take your hand. So 16 on the original. The expanded added follow me. No, follow me was only 17 on the original. The expanded added my boo, red light, seductions and the confession part two remix 21 songs, one hour 19 minutes. Masterpiece VM.
Speaker 1:No debates, no, no debate. So one thing that I want to say before we wrap up here, as we're talking music is you and I share a love for soft rock, alternative rock, music, and let me say this, a thing that I think you should know Expand your palates, man, because music of all kinds sounds so good, like it really does. But one group that we stand for is holland notes Top five holland note songs, or hold on, because a while back on social media there was a group of young African Americans who were discovering holland notes for the first time. And let me start by saying if you are someone who is never listened to holland notes, you're lying to yourself, because you have heard holland notes songs. They are sampled so much to chains has a phenomenal sample of.
Speaker 1:I can't go for that holland holland notes. So there's that. Everything is good. I don't think I've ever heard a holland note song that doesn't absolutely slap. So invest, take a moment, go start with the Apple music essentials. I don't know what Spotify does. The greatest hits, playlists, whatever, start there and I'm telling you Rich girl man-eater saying ain't so Kisses on my list, like I can keep keep going. Um, rick, I said rich girl, sarah, smile and One of my all-time favorites.
Speaker 2:You make my dreams come true. I'm playing music. Sorry, one of my favorites is you make my dreams come true and, like you said, people have heard it. They just know. They heard it's in commercials.
Speaker 1:They can play the NBA games are playing it at the MLB stadiums. They're playing it. Holland notes is playing over the loudspeaker at the grocery store. It is playing at the bank. It is playing in elevators. Holland notes is everywhere. Everyone on this planet enjoys holland notes music, even if you you think you've never heard it. You love holland notes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I'd say my origin for holland notes was when I worked in high school at big lots.
Speaker 2:There's these stuff back before there was Shazam and there would be music that would come on. I'd be like what is this? Like I, I hear you make my dreams come true. I'd hear Sarah smile and like they going to the guitar little part portion where it's just like the solo. I'm like this is why, what is this music? And then, if we would stay up late as kids, if you left it on, like Nickelodeon or certain channels, they would go to pay TV programming and they would have 75 songs on a 10.
Speaker 2:CD set. So that's how I learned about a lot of different soft rock music, big lots and that commercial.
Speaker 1:And I would just go listen to those artists and here they were top songs and I'd be like, oh, these are, these songs are great, oh my god, like I'd like journey separate ways, like I found Kansas and I will never forget listening to horse with no name, like that song is such an earworm by America and Fleetwood Mac. I discovered Lee Wood Mac from those commercials. Just a soft rock, alt Rock, 80 soft rock, feel Collins, yeah, it's just really. It just makes you so happy to be I'm. It makes my soul happy. I don't know what it does for your soul, but it makes my soul.
Speaker 2:Michael McDonald, and I do be brothers. People don't know. They, like Michael McDonald, was making oh what, what's? What's the label of music? Motel music, that's all they know. Like he started doing the Motel music over and over or people know I keep forgetting. But no, he had a whole group that he was in and they, they have some you belong to me.
Speaker 1:There. Yes, I have the do be but the doobies brothers greatest hits on vinyl and it goes. It's real smooth to. Yeah, he's gonna buy those smooth. I'm speaking of my vinyl. Shout out to you I'm. I got my very first Holly Notes vinyl from you. It's Raspberry too, which is really cool.
Speaker 2:Wow, I didn't know that it's cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I wasn't expecting it.
Speaker 2:I was like ah, got a gift, got a gift. Hey, when you told me about that concert that they had here.
Speaker 1:Oh, my god, I just was telling someone this story, funny enough, at work. They were asking me about my love for Holly Notes and I was telling them about when we did the Parade of Homes and we were in that house that had the Holly Notes live in concert, the tour, and we were stuck in that house for 12 hours listening to Holly Notes on tour on repeat and not complaining, I will say by the 12th time that I heard Sarah smile, I was like, yeah, we could change the station a little bit, but it did take 12 times to get there. But I was telling them about going to that concert and how everybody in the building. So Holly Notes soft rock festival held here in Indianapolis. I will let you all assume who the target audience was. It was not me, and my comment Just throw that out there. And so we were a handful of people who were there who looked like us and everyone else there who looked like us was clocked in.
Speaker 2:They sure were.
Speaker 1:And they were looking at us like, is this get out? Do y'all need help? But at one point a gentleman walked up to me and was like, oh, you know the words to these songs and I had to kindly tell him he was tripping and he should know the words too. But yeah, we also brought the median age of that thing way down. Like when I say we were not the target audience. In no way, shape, form or fashion did they expect us to be showing up at all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you got no Holly Notes. They're about like 70, 80.
Speaker 1:Oh, I think, listen, Daryl was looking a little.
Speaker 2:Yeah, john Oates yeah.
Speaker 1:John is yeah, they've got to be 70, 80, right. Yeah, they're in the mid 70s.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were still hitting them songs.
Speaker 1:They were still killing it.
Speaker 2:Can't hit some of my notes.
Speaker 1:No, Daryl was getting up there now there were a couple of that he wasn't getting as you know, with a much umph in the past, but they still got it. But they weren't doing that multiple days in a row.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, Not at all.
Speaker 1:And me and Mike was in that thing, in that thing having a great time Having a great time Walked over and then was like, all right, it's over, we out.
Speaker 2:They was like, if something else is coming on, that ain't for us.
Speaker 1:We're not here for that.
Speaker 2:We're here for our show and they were on for a while. Yeah, no, they did too. They did too, and a half hours they did all there, but they did everything there was.
Speaker 1:I didn't. So oftentimes I go to concerts and like current artists, like Beyonce I went to the when I saw Renaissance Excellent show, but there definitely still some Beyonce songs that I wish I could have heard. I felt that way the last time I saw Travis Scott. There was stuff in the catalog Because the catalogs just get to be they do. I get it, I understand, but that is one of the few shows that I've ever walked away from and been like and haven't been like dang. They didn't do, they did everything.
Speaker 2:They got all the crumbs off the table.
Speaker 1:They did everything. Nothing that you, anyone in there who said, oh, this is my favorite hollownote song, they heard their favorite hollownote song that night. Yeah, it was phenomenal, it was great.
Speaker 2:It was great For phenomenal.
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