Join Traneisha and the show's best Judy, Carson (@gcarsonirvin) for another Kiki that touches on several topics including ghosts, love, season 2 of Sugar Salt Soul, and the dangers of claw foot tubs.
Season 1 of Sugar Salt Soul: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR5PZgos4WjsnYLHPcXbLrg
Sugar Salt Soul: Facebook
Join Traneisha and the show's best Judy, Carson (@gcarsonirvin) for another Kiki that touches on several topics including ghosts, love, season 2 of Sugar Salt Soul, and the dangers of claw foot tubs.
Season 1 of Sugar Salt Soul: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR5PZgos4WjsnYLHPcXbLrg
Sugar Salt Soul: Facebook
What's up everybody. This is Trenisha English and you are listening to the Things you Should Know, podcast.
Speaker 2:But I love that Victorian stuff but I just can't. I'm getting old and fat and bones can't get into bar club. What's it called bar? Bare claw tubs and stuff anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah, claw foot, claw foot, that's the word.
Speaker 2:I want a claw foot tub. So no, you don't.
Speaker 1:Like one of those deep you know.
Speaker 2:They good for burble. Bad but when you can't get out and you gotta roll over and push yourself. It's not a pretty sight, but thank God I live alone. Almost gotta take another shower. Cause all the twit trying to get out the shower. Oh boy you realize that, Peter look, excuse me, but you know, have you ever thought about dying? I don't want.
Speaker 1:Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Before we jump into that y'all. Welcome back to the podcast. This is the Things you Should Know podcast featuring Trenisha English. I'm here with our good friend good friend of the show Carson. Welcome, carson. Back to the podcast.
Speaker 2:AKA Delirious, delirious.
Speaker 1:And we have a special guest.
Speaker 2:We have Libra Scout here today.
Speaker 1:Yes, Libra Scout is here today Now. Libra Scout knows how to behave, so y'all probably not gonna hear Libra Scout on the audio, like y'all be hearing Prince O.
Speaker 2:That's cause you fool this motherfucker shaking like hell right now. We love Libra.
Speaker 1:Libra is named after the best astrological sign that there is the Libra gang. We hold it down for everyone so excited to have you here today.
Speaker 2:We're sure it's him.
Speaker 1:He's so precious he really is really precious, just such a cutie pie. Maybe we'll take a picture of you and Libra for the podcast.
Speaker 2:We ain't getting no pictures today. Podcast art oh, okay.
Speaker 1:You know, you don't talk about nope, nope, nope. Photo writing.
Speaker 2:I feel like you're trying to divert.
Speaker 1:No, no, no. What we?
Speaker 2:divert is from the discussion of have you ever thought about death?
Speaker 1:Yes, I think about death a lot. Do you have a preferred way to die In my sleep? If I could pick, I want to go on my sleep Now let's talk about that.
Speaker 2:Cause say folks say, oh, she went in peace in her sleep. How do we know?
Speaker 1:I just want, I just want to go to sleep and then wake up, Wake up.
Speaker 2:David.
Speaker 1:Yes, I want to wake up dead Like, oh damn, they took me out tonight.
Speaker 2:So if you die in your sleep, who wakes you up?
Speaker 1:You wake up on the other side.
Speaker 2:What wakes you up?
Speaker 1:Death. It's cold.
Speaker 2:So I've heard who told you Somebody dead?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you ain't never talked to the dead.
Speaker 2:No, hell no.
Speaker 1:Man.
Speaker 2:I know there's something rolling around in my house, right, but Do you believe in ghosts? Well, my dog helped me believe in ghosts because I was watching the episode of the psychic thing of the people that talk to the dead people, cause I think that's just funny. And my dog literally stood up and started growling at that corner and barking beside that TV. I very quickly turned at the Andy Griffith.
Speaker 1:And when he got me some olive oil and anointed my doorpost, I believe in like that spirit.
Speaker 2:But I don't care that they're there, because I mean that house is so old. I don't want to see you, I don't want to hear you, I don't want you feel you Well sometimes they're coming to warn you of things, or I don't want to be warned or to let you know that you're on the right path.
Speaker 1:They come with messages Do.
Speaker 2:Do they? Yeah, then they need to change that message, because what they saying and what I'm experiencing are two different things, right?
Speaker 1:now Carson is in there. Carson, we got to do a mental health check. That's how we start every episode of the podcast. You really want to do a mental health check with me right now.
Speaker 2:Do the people really want to do a mental health check?
Speaker 1:Listen, listen, I'm going to ask you, I'm telling you now.
Speaker 2:Okay, do you have insurance? Because if we do a mental health check with me right now, people are going to sue you because they're going to need counseling.
Speaker 1:Well, no one's going to sue me.
Speaker 2:Well, the things you should know, you should be liable.
Speaker 1:Don't hold us liable, for we're going to do a disclaimer to start the episode she got a good lawyer.
Speaker 2:I'm going to talk real fast. I know you're a lawyer, you know we have what we need to be successful.
Speaker 1:All right, carson. Mental health check. What are you doing to bring yourself joy these days?
Speaker 2:Boxed wine. Ooh, really. You know I used to be really bougie and I used to talk about people that drink boxed wine. I only had to have, you know, your screaming eagles. I mean I was being like 50, 60 bucks on a bottle of wine because I thought it was just, and my friend was like if you don't taste this wine? And baby, I got one taste of that boxed wine.
Speaker 1:It was all of the good sysmeedy, and it was all of 1799.
Speaker 2:Okay, and it's 34 bottles in that box. Oh 34? 34 glasses. Glasses 34 glasses.
Speaker 1:Y'all should have seen the shock on my face thinking about it being 34 bottles.
Speaker 2:But this is the problem when you buy a box of wine that says 34 glasses and you done by Sunday and you bought it on Friday night, you realize you just drink 34 glasses in two days.
Speaker 1:I mean, if it's good, it's good, it's delicious, it's delicious.
Speaker 2:No, but for real mental health. What am I doing to keep myself happy? These days, I am actually really learning to spend time with myself. I always kept busy and always stayed active because I didn't want to deal with my life. I didn't want to deal with you. Yeah, but now that I'm going, now that I'm going through these problems we talked about this the other night.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Now that I'm going through these processes of dealing with me, I've needed some work for a long time that I use being funny and being around people and being the life of the party to cover up for so many years. And now here I am. Damn it, do you come on your show?
Speaker 1:Damn you're 50.
Speaker 2:Excuse me, Saints.
Speaker 1:The Saints don't listen.
Speaker 2:Oh well, they are. They just ain't telling you they are. We know they're not coming up on the feed.
Speaker 1:We see the counts every week. We know who's listening.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we know that was a read, it wasn't a read because the person isn't listening, so they'll never hear it. Like what?
Speaker 2:Again, we know who's listening, yeah well yeah, I'm really just focusing on me and learning me. I'm learning me. For the first time, I've learned that what I thought was living life was really not living life. It was cover up.
Speaker 1:Isn't that something? Yeah, it was cover up, because I didn't want us to feel the pain.
Speaker 2:I would never want to deal with the bull crap that I went through and all this drama and all that. But at this point I'm like. You know what? My circle, my support system, my foundation all of them over 70. The people that I talk to, the people that I rely on, the people that I hang out with in the family, are all older people and I had to wake up and realize they about to go see the Lord soon and when they gone I'm going to be all by myself, I by myself, yeah, so now I am really trying to really build a foundation and build my own life, build my own friends, start doing things.
Speaker 2:Because my last birthday, my birthday. For the last 15 years have either been spent with my aunt in Chicago or my mother in Kentucky. I've never really done anything on my own for my birthday.
Speaker 1:So what do you want to do, cause your birthday is coming up ish July 6th. Right, I want to be a stripper. No, let's be for real, carson, you know you ain't taking nothing off.
Speaker 2:I am very, very bothered. I already got a name.
Speaker 1:What is it, big Bone? Now, carson, you're going to be a stripper. You're going to put your body on the pole. Yeah, lord Jesus will. Then oxel and tickets.
Speaker 2:But what people don't realize? See, strippers got it wrong. They come out to naked. Oh, you're coming down here. Oh baby, I'm going to have on a blazer a turtleneck, four pairs of socks and I'm just going to start layering it. By the time my song is over, I should be down to my boxes and my t-shirt and I'll be just fine. You have to layer as a stripper. You have to play the game. You got to leave them wanting more.
Speaker 2:And by the time it's over, they're going to say, damn, what's up under all that, the more you know reading rainbow.
Speaker 1:Now, what's up under all of that? Oh, I'll be sweating and the thing about it is I can see it, I can see you with some and some draw and some draw.
Speaker 2:She has the voice from all them layers 90 degrees outside. Now I'm wearing two turtlenecks. Oh, let me tell you.
Speaker 1:If I ever see a stripper in a turtleneck, I'm absolutely going to use it and lose it, and I want you to understand that in this scenario, you have suggested that you were wearing multiple of them as a stripper. I'm crying.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm determined that by 2025, Carson is bringing leg warmers back in. Why?
Speaker 1:For what? I don't necessarily know that leg warmers are out of style, because I do think that there is a there are some populations who are still wearing them. Y'all, I wish y'all could like dancers are, wear leg warmers all time.
Speaker 2:That one piece of hair is really driving me crazy?
Speaker 1:Is this sticking up through my head.
Speaker 2:It's like alpha, alpha, the curls gonna do what the curls?
Speaker 1:gonna do.
Speaker 2:Anyway, thank you so much for having me, I'm so glad that you're here. I said I was going to be on my best behavior this time, but I think, oh, we knew it was a lie when you said it. No, but for real. I really want to be able to help people on this one, because last time I don't know if I helped anybody.
Speaker 1:But no, I think you did, you did. We're always giving gyms. We're doing them with a laugh and a smile. Right? That's the. That's the purpose of the podcast. Right, we're helping you learn something new. Think about things differently, consider a new perspective, gain some knowledge and some wisdom with some laughs.
Speaker 2:That's the best way to learn the laughter can be a double S.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, and I appreciate you talking about using it as a cover up.
Speaker 2:Also people say, oh God, you're so funny, but I don't be trying to be, it's just, it's just.
Speaker 1:I get that all the time to just messed up. Well, I am mentally a hot mess. I. So there's also, just like a part of, like the, there's a group of people who deal with trauma in specific ways, and I think this is the cancer and Libra right, because what we are very sensitive and emotional people but we do not want to lay on to that.
Speaker 1:So, instead of me really leaning into how I feel emotionally right now or saying something like oh, I don't like this or this is making me uncomfortable, what? Ok, never mind. Oh, my instinct is to make a joke.
Speaker 2:Yep, so that's all I do. That's a problem.
Speaker 1:I think you know. You just have to find a safe outlet.
Speaker 2:I don't know when you know it's just my, my interpretation of life, people surrounding come out that way.
Speaker 1:It's comedy, it's hilarious.
Speaker 2:Because you know I always do. Y'all know I wasted almost $700 on oh, that's not even comedy Learning. I understand Stand up comedy Going there because, look, I'm busy, it's good to pay for, but you still got to pay your bills and you got to work. So well, it is what it is, and it was at Chicago when I live in Indianapolis, indiana.
Speaker 1:And you were driving up there and trying to so you also have to invest in yourself for a dream, but you have to make a smart investment right.
Speaker 2:Don't get me wrong. I got a lot of nuggets out of it, I learned I think I was more irritated because you had to listen to everybody else and I'm thinking yeah, this is not funny.
Speaker 1:You always do jobs, money Lower.
Speaker 2:So, but I don't know, I've always wanted to be while I've been on stage. You know I did. I did theater in my young days, I did drag, I mean you have to whisper it. Alert alert alert. Carson did drag. Oh, look at me coming out the clothes.
Speaker 1:I'm looking on my podcast because this is what we do here as if they didn't know you have to whisper it. We know you did drag.
Speaker 2:So I've always wanted to be an entertainer, I've always loved being in front of people, but there was always the fact that Carson was also a foreign minister. It had been a constant. Tell me that's not oxymoron if you ever heard one, but it's just who I am, because I love entertaining, I love being in front of people, but also love the Lord. Yeah, well let's say you know I love Lord because you know I tap the, especially when I'm in the spirits. I have to have the.
Speaker 1:Lord, no, well, let's step out. How many times am I wrong? Well, I'm going to tap out of that one no no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going to type out of that one and I'm going to say Carson, you're here because we love your entertainment, the people of your entertainment, so let's entertain the people today.
Speaker 2:Was I being too soft?
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no. So here's what I will say, though. We did our mental health check. We know what's bringing Carson joy right now, and we know how much you like to laugh. Yeah, just shitting everywhere. Sorry we were. We were a little bit of a shudder, we are.
Speaker 2:Why are you here? And I'm still trying to learn how to take care of this. First, a lot I didn't know. I thought he was not allergenic Psych Nope, he is. But I love him. He's a sweet dog.
Speaker 1:Yes, he's very, very sweet Dogs that don't talk. I get the most because you are so loud. I don't think your dog is boring, but I think opposites attract.
Speaker 2:You know, although he did, he was hunting my arm the other day for the first time, like we don't do that. I know I like boys, but come on now Just a hundred. But I learned that that's from overstimulation, because I like to play with him and when I, when I'm ready to stop with them.
Speaker 1:you know he likes to play and he likes to come to completion and got not one ball.
Speaker 2:No, he like I be like playing there, but OK, I'm tired and he's still ready to go and it's like you know he's still ready to go, so that that humming is kind of a release for them. So it's not even a sexual for them, it's not. It's just it's a reaction of overstimulation, it's not for pleasure, I researched it.
Speaker 1:Look at you doing some research. G O O G L E.
Speaker 2:Come on, google, google, you can send a check the sugar salt.
Speaker 1:So yes, you can. Speaking of sugar salt. So what's a First of all episode? Blah, blah, blah. Let me try that again. All episodes of all current episodes of sugar salt.
Speaker 2:So streaming on YouTube you can find all episodes of sugar salt on YouTube at sugar S? U G A R salt. S? A L T so S U S O U L Sugar salt. So also you can find us on Facebook and we are coming to Twitter under Carson Kirby Entertainment, which is the parent company of all of this. So we have a lot of things coming. We are going to be releasing chocolate covered very soon. Yes, cut that out, because somebody might steal that before we get it.
Speaker 1:Branded. The girls are.
Speaker 2:Girls are hungry for an opportunity, so don't.
Speaker 1:So if we see you somewhere with chocolate covered, we know you got to hear, we know and listen. We already told you we know who listens to the black ass and we got lawyers. Yes, don't play with me, so don't do that. And my lawyers ain't saved, so Come on this, salvation, all right, anything else coming, all right. So, and then be on the new episodes.
Speaker 2:The new episodes are coming April and May We'll start a production again. Really excited, I'm just really excited, you know. I really feel like I found my passion, but y'all need to follow. I can't quit my job until y'all start following.
Speaker 1:Please, people don't understand. They don't understand when I am saying to y'all like, subscribe and share. I really do mean that because I am trying to quit my job.
Speaker 2:This is what I want to do. I've really found my passion. I enjoy it. So you know, when I do an episode or when I film an episode, I'm so overjoyed and elated and then I go to sleep and wake up and clock in and it just goes away.
Speaker 1:You see, it was so sad, just goes away.
Speaker 2:It's like, oh my God, it's kind of like Thanksgiving. You know how Thanksgiving? You're really excited and you eat, and you with your family, and you eat some more and then you shit.
Speaker 1:And it's all over and it's gone. What's up, gang? Trenisha English from the Things you Should Know podcast here reminding you to rate and review and, if you haven't already, be sure to follow us on social media at Things you Should Know pod, like and share and comment, interact with us and, if you haven't already, click that subscribe button wherever you get your podcast.
Speaker 2:Hello Trenisha, I really want to talk about love. Okay, love life. We're at our love life. I mean, you're older and aging and you know I'm catching up with you, so you are really trying to you are You're so?
Speaker 1:ticklish On our podcast because you just said you're older. You said, trenisha, you're older and I'm catching up. And where am I wrong In all of it? But I digress, age ain't nothing but a number.
Speaker 2:So you would date somebody in their 60s.
Speaker 1:So I am into older men. Yes, yes, I am into older men. I like older men. I have never dated anyone younger than me because I like older men. So, yeah, I would definitely. I'm 33 now. I'd definitely be down to date somebody in there 33. I would definitely be down to date somebody. I would go all the way up to 50. I think 50, 55.
Speaker 2:Where does that put me then, if you date somebody?
Speaker 1:I mean 50, 55. I'm going down here about ready to be 50. Here we go, here we go.
Speaker 2:Where am I going to date Somebody seven year Annie, you don't have to date older I might be smart.
Speaker 1:I mean listen, get them to put you on the wheel, give them 10 years and then cash out.
Speaker 2:Would you date a white man?
Speaker 1:Where is this white man from? I would have a lot of questions about the white man.
Speaker 2:What do you mean? Is there a difference? White is white. Okay, white ain't right, but white is white.
Speaker 1:I have never dated outside of my race. I would be open to it Really yeah.
Speaker 2:So you never had like a puttareef in, or?
Speaker 1:Nope, only black.
Speaker 2:Wow, you know I've had a little taste of everything. Why have you not dated outside of your race?
Speaker 1:Because the opportunity hasn't arisen with someone I'm interested in doing that with.
Speaker 2:I can't believe that You're a beautiful woman. You can't tell me nobody outside of a black man has ever flirted with you.
Speaker 1:I didn't say white men or men outside of my race haven't flirted with me. I said I have not been, I have not dated a man outside of my relationship or outside of my race.
Speaker 2:What is the hesitation?
Speaker 1:I don't feel like the opportunity has presented itself with someone who I would be open to doing it with.
Speaker 2:Y'all. I just want you to know I have never seen you so jittery in trying to choose the right words carefully in my life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do like to be politically correct when it comes to me, oh why I mean, it's your country. Well, not necessarily politically correct.
Speaker 2:Would you have a? Would you have let me rephrase that Not dating? Would you have sex with somebody outside of your?
Speaker 1:race. Yes, I would date someone outside of my race. I just have not done it. I'm not opposed to it, I just haven't had the opportunity to present itself at a time, a place, with a person that I am interested in doing it with.
Speaker 2:So are you waiting on your Jubilee celebration? What?
Speaker 1:the hell. I have not met someone who I would be wanting to. I have not met a man outside of my race that I would want to date yet, and what would that person look like?
Speaker 2:What's that ideal person?
Speaker 1:So for me.
Speaker 2:I am and no.
Speaker 1:I'm actually going to say this. I am actually not a look girl. I often say that I like ugly dudes, and not that I think that I like ugly dudes because every dude that I have dated has been attractive to me. But to me I'm more about a personality, Like if you can make me laugh and it feels like we're going to have a really good time together. I'm not. I'll make you cute with my mind, I'll make you fuck me, Don't worry about it. Yeah, Carson, if you were straight, I definitely would date you. If you were like oh, Trudy should have like no you don't understand, but Carson is not straight.
Speaker 1:My balls literally just retreated because Carson is not straight, so you've dated outside of your race, though, right, baby, you've had everything.
Speaker 2:If you put up the Thanksgiving corner copy of me, you go back. I've had Iranian man. Those are very delicious and hairy and strong. Little mercy, think I could look curious. I've had Asian man to sock man. I've had black, I've had white, I've had everything. Italian was probably my favorite, little little rough.
Speaker 1:What is it? Is it just like that? You're just like, if, what is it for you that makes you be like, yes, wait a minute, that makes me sound like a ho. You see, I was about to call it, I was about to say it, and then I try to change it.
Speaker 2:I have a lot more years experience, so this is over an expansion of 25 years.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay, this is a long amount of time, right? And we've actually not mentioned that many years, you know?
Speaker 2:no, not at all. I've only been in like four relationship and one of those for 12 years.
Speaker 1:Oh, I did not know you had been in a long-term relationship. I have been in a very long-term relationship, so yeah, why didn't that one end in like marriage Like. Why did that one end?
Speaker 2:Because it was at the point where I was, at the point where I was done, like with the clubs and all this stuff and he still was all into the going out every night and partying and you know, going to raves and circuit parties, and I was just so over that I was like, okay, were you older.
Speaker 1:No, we were the same age.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we were definitely the same age, but he just didn't want to let go of that because he thought it was relevant and I just went. I was like, why am I going out giving all these people all my money when I can buy me a bottle? Set it home, read me a book, watch Netflix and save money? Netflix Well, netflix at that time is when they were still milling the DVDs, I mean, you know. But my first relationship which I wouldn't call my first entanglement when I fell in love.
Speaker 2:I fell in love, I was 18 and I got an apartment in my name and got furniture in my name, and I came home one day and all that shit was gone Dang. Let me tell you something Some of these game of focus ain't shit. Watch yourself, because they are out for a come up. I learned the hard way. So then I started going out, but I always were. I was always pulled toward, not attracted to, always pulled toward older people, and those older people really took me in and really showed me the ropes up Don't mess with him. He dirty, don't do this, don't do that, don't. One of the biggest comp, one of the biggest, one of the greatest advice, one of the biggest. Well, what am I trying to say? One of the best pieces of advice that's what I'm trying to say I ever got. Did you see me get stuck in my own loop?
Speaker 1:Lord, I couldn't help you. And you get up. I couldn't help you, I was all about myself.
Speaker 2:One of the greatest pieces of advice I got from an older couple don't take your man to the gay bar, because when you go to the gay bar by yourself, nobody's into you, but as soon as you walk in there with your man, they all want you because they don't want to see nobody else happy because they're not happy. She said if you're in a relationship, never take your man to the gay bar. Never take your man to the gay bar.
Speaker 1:I mean, I believe that I don't. I don't feel like the club is a place for a relationship.
Speaker 2:Now I will tell you this in this new generation, gay bars are really. There's not as many as there used to be, yeah, but I think there I love the fact that everything's inclusive, I love that you can go to straight bars or whatever and now be open, but I think gay bars are relevant because it was a gay bar.
Speaker 1:to save me. Yeah, they're safe space too.
Speaker 2:Because I couldn't go nowhere else. You know, shout out to IYG. You know I was one. I was a part of that early stage of IYG. It was over there on 46th Street and that really saved my life. I met a lot of young people in the same place with me. Funny story about that I was telling. I used to tell my grandmother used to drop me off at IYG.
Speaker 2:She didn't know, when she was dropping, you had no clue. And one day she stuck around just a little bit longer. When I got back out she was like there's a whole lot of strange people going in there, what's going on, what's going on, what's going on, what's going on, what's going on. So you know, I think love, I would love to find a relationship, I would love to find a partnership. Hella, make paying bills a whole lot. I mean you know, but I just don't feel like people want that anymore.
Speaker 1:I think they do, because I know people who want it Me and a motherfucker is no matter if they get it yes no, I literally was saying it, but I just Haven't found anyone who's worth having it with.
Speaker 2:But you have such a high I mean I do. You are a lot to compare with.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, no, and I have a really high standard, you a politician, you a model Gats me, gats me Hashtag.
Speaker 1:she has the only fans Now. Now, carson is doing too much. But yeah, no, I do have really high standards. It's funny that you say that it's actually just thinking about this. Today my or me and my mother were just talking about this. She was saying, like that I have such a like a great dad, so I have such a really high standard. That is really I've got a tough bar for people to Me and I don't. I don't feel like it's unreasonable. But I also know what a really good man looks like. I know what a great man looks like and how he shows up, and so I'm expecting no less than that.
Speaker 2:Her. That makes sense. So that's, that's. That's very honorable.
Speaker 1:I don't know it's, it's, and I will also say this this is with my old age, because I haven't always been that way, because I've been in some really toxic relationships.
Speaker 2:What is toxic for you?
Speaker 1:It can look a lot of different ways, and mine have looked a lot of different ways.
Speaker 2:I don't think I've ever been in a toxic relationship. I've ever did. I've only been in. I don't know. I've only really had one bad relationship. All of my relationships have always ended well. I've always ended up friends with all of my past lovers, except the one that stole everything. I ain't seen him. I have never seen him again. It's like he came, took and ghosted. That's why I have never seen that man again in my life, and I've been looking. I'm just waiting for that one day. If I see his obituary with his picture.
Speaker 2:I'm going to the field and I'm going to get up when my shit Don't smack him. He's gonna come back.
Speaker 1:He's gonna come back and jump.
Speaker 2:Baby, I'm gonna resurrect him.
Speaker 1:Oh man, yeah, yeah, no, I've been in some toxic situations and I will say I have been the toxic, the toxicity in relationships, who I'm willing to admit that. That's very interesting.
Speaker 2:Why do you feel like you were?
Speaker 1:toxic, because I can be toxic. I know what it is. I can be toxic, I can definitely do that.
Speaker 2:I think the most feedback I've got from my past relationships is that even though I'm very vocal I'm very loud I'm also very introverted when it comes to certain situations. You know, when I don't like drama, I don't like fights, I don't like all that, it was like every man I've always had loved all that. Somebody bump into the bar. They ready to fight.
Speaker 1:No, I don't want to.
Speaker 2:I think it was that toxic masculinity that I was attracted to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I don't want that. That's a little bit too much. Yeah, with age comes maturity. Exactly but yeah, I will say yes, I've definitely been in toxic. I'm not friends with any of my exes.
Speaker 2:Really yes. Well for what? That's weird. I'm a friend with all my exes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that actually really weirds me out when people are friends with their exes.
Speaker 2:And I will say I've had relationships that have had.
Speaker 1:I've had relationships that have ended poorly and it makes sense that we don't talk and I've relate like relationships that have been like mutual splits, like in school, but I just don't.
Speaker 2:What am I going back there for, like what I think most of my relationships that one have always been mutual splits and you still feel comfortable enough to yes because we recognize the fact that, okay, either it was just lust and beginning, we had fun fucking or whatever for a while, and then when that newness wore off, it was like, okay, we're not-.
Speaker 1:We're not-. Yeah, I also think that that has a lot to do with the fact that the gay community, while very big in the grand scheme of things, is really small, especially the one here, the gay community is so broad.
Speaker 2:The gay community used to be small, but now everybody wants to become a part of the alphabet. Every little weird douche want to become a get a letter. Hell, no, who are you? What did you do? What did you talk about? What is this? What did you talk about? What did you do? No, that ain't got nothing to do. You don't have sex. Then you nod. What are you talking about? Oh, this is the whole other conversation because this whole LGBTQ, liq and the LNP it's got us old people mixed up. Listen.
Speaker 1:I-.
Speaker 2:I came out when it was just LGBT.
Speaker 1:They have a T on when you came out.
Speaker 2:Yes, because when the girls get mad. Now I told you I got in a situation where I was working in a restaurant in Chicago and this boy was he had me food but he was a female to male trans and I didn't know. And when I found out I was like, oh my god, I didn't know, you were trans. You were the man that ran the company Bang Bing. You would have thought World War II was about to happen because he went in. Oh my god, don't you offend me. I'm like what are you talking about? Because when I came up, that's what we called each other, that's what we call the girls. We're trans, they call themselves trans. Yeah, he said I am transgender. So it's just this younger generation. I feel like I'm more sensitive. They all need affirmation, they need to be, they need to feel approved. Let the chips fall where they may. Yeah here's.
Speaker 1:I hear that, right, yeah, and this is to actually two generations getting to talk about it, because I hear that, oh, you're trying to say we in the same generation.
Speaker 2:No, but why you gotta call it out like that?
Speaker 1:Well, because I'm calling it out like that because of the point.
Speaker 2:I'm about to make. You're 33 and I'm 37. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1:I'm calling it out like that because of the point I'm about to make. Okay, so I think I completely hear you and I think I often call on my generation to give older folks grace and understanding that, not Not.
Speaker 1:Not, not only is the world changing, but, in the grand scheme of things, things are changing so rapidly for older generations Right, we were just talking about this like the advancement of technology in the last 30 years has been wild. Right, the world is changing so fast. And if you have been a part of a community like the LGBTQIA plus right community when it was just LGBT because I have had a similar conversation with folks that came out when it was just gay Like you came out and we were just the gay community, right, like because I didn't be honest, like there was a point where it wasn't LGBTQ, it was just LGBT like it was just it was just the gays, right.
Speaker 1:So this, this, the social acceptance of the gay community and the expanding of the gay community, has only been or the LGBTQIA plus community. If you really think about it in the grand scheme of things, that's been in the last 10 to 15 years.
Speaker 2:Ladies and gentlemen, I want you to know that that was so eloquently spoken. But I was just beat up, trampled.
Speaker 1:I was no, you were not, I was.
Speaker 2:I was.
Speaker 1:No, you were not.
Speaker 2:I felt like there was ageism in there, because she just kept reminding me just how old I was. No, no, but you're, you're very correct.
Speaker 1:That has changed so much over time.
Speaker 2:But even within the this is going to talk about this a whole conversation and turn towards the whole gay community. Yeah, but even within the gay community there's so many different sex. Yeah, so much for for, for a, for a movement, to be so ostracized and so turned against within that own community there's so much segregation and hatred, and you know the lesbians and the gays and, and you know, even with me, you know the blacks and the whites. You know it's Funny because for me, being who I am, my thing was, especially in my younger days, in the 90s. I was always categorized either too white for the black man or too black for the white white man. But the white men would always want to fuck you, but they didn't want their friends and they were fucking. They wanted the black day, but they didn't want the black on the hour.
Speaker 1:I mean because it was. It was still so, and I say this and take this for what I mean when I say it it's the niche community has to be gotten. It has become so big that they are now smaller niches inside of this community. And for me, someone on the outside looking in as an ally, it is so Wild to me to have watched that happen in my wife in my lifetime and be a part of another minority Neat community and watch it not happen like this, have I heard. So I get so weirded out. Part of the reason why I hate the city of Boston is because of how blood, how vast the black community is. So here in Indiana, if I see someone who is brown, we are instantly decided look, we are brown. It is only so many of us and we are in this together.
Speaker 1:When you get to places like Boston. I'm assuming New York is like this, I know they're probably like Chicago. Like Chicago is like this, because now this community has gotten so big we get to say, actually no, I'm Afro, latino.
Speaker 2:No, I'm Haitian, black I'm.
Speaker 1:Haitian Creole, and so I'm now this smaller pocket of black that, because you are just regular black, you're not a part of yeah no so we don't feel the need to protect you in that way, and so, and to be honest, I think that that is what the older LGBTQ Generation is trying to say to the younger generation. They came out at a time where we didn't have they didn't have the luxury to be each right. We are gay, so we all have got each other because these letters are just coming on. So, as we see, I'll tacking on and breaking ourselves into the smaller groups. While there is some pride and some joy and some, some applaud at the progress, at the end of the day, you are doing to them what the masses did to them you are isolating them, and and you are isolating them in a community that they created but that they can, and they can only feel certain, some certain type of way To that right, there's only.
Speaker 2:We don't want to just take this to. Yeah, just the Make. This podcast is just about gay. That goes with anything, just the black hundred percent Hunter.
Speaker 1:Christian.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yes the nominations and segregation within the Christian community. You know, oh, I'm church of God in Christ, or I'm apostolic, or I'm Methodist. I'm this, the we we create. All. I'm gonna tell you something when we look at the situation in the world today and we see where we are in the United States, the biggest downfall and what is gonna be our biggest failure as a country is one word Division. Yes, and that is what all of these other countries are doing Russia, china. They are planting seeds constantly that continue to divide us, because when we are divided, we are easily conquered. Let's close this out with where you want to go. I mean, I know this is your show, but I'm kind of taking over.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that?
Speaker 2:where are you wanting to go? What do you? Where do you see the things you should know going? What do you see tradition going in the next five years?
Speaker 1:You know. So it's funny that you asked that where do I see this going the next five years? I don't know growth. I was what I am, what I want to push towards. I told someone this I can't remember who it was I really want to get to a point where that we can do a live show when we've got enough of a following that folks will be interested in, and us doing a live show somewhere.
Speaker 2:I want to get to that honey, I'm supposed to see the shenanigans that go In the next year to 18 months.
Speaker 1:I'm really striving for that. So I think it's one step at a time. The next thing is to, you know, continue to grow the listenership. So, again, like, subscribe, share. If you enjoy this podcast, tell someone about it, because we got to get to the point where we can get monetized and start running ads and things like that. But yeah, I just really want to see growth in it bigger. I really enjoy I mean I think that I'm like super important or anything, but what I will say is this I, the entirety of my life, I've always been able to be a part of good conversations with good people, things, and and in those three those conversations, I learned things. I hope that I impart knowledge on others, but that's what I really love, and so as long as we can keep capturing these good conversations, I think I'll be happy.
Speaker 2:That's good stuff. I don't know. I can tell you this Are you? Do you see yourself in Indiana for the rest of your life?
Speaker 1:I really love Indiana. I would not mind being here for the rest of my life. I definitely will be open to you know. I mean I travel a lot for work already, so I'm definitely willing to like travel and pivot and do some things. But I really do enjoy living in Indiana and if I feel like there's so much promise and opportunity, so yeah, I could see myself doing like a network show from Indiana. Sure good.
Speaker 2:That's good stuff. I don't. I don't know, but me, being a gypsy and I've traveled everywhere, I Battle with that. I'm enjoying Indiana right now. I'm not enjoying these cold, I'm not enjoying I I'm not enjoying four seasons like I used to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can see myself you know I have a friend in Arizona that's begging me to carry out Arizona. But I, like girl, I'd be purple, you know I don't. I don't want super hot. I lived in San Antonio for a span of four or five years. That that heat, that human heat, was different. I just if I could find that perfect location when I'm not too hot and I'm not too cold.
Speaker 1:Arizona, arizona's dry heat, though, isn't it. I hear that I don't make no difference to me, heat is heat. Listen, I agree with you that make that means nothing to me. I would say this I definitely do enjoy like of the four seasons, winter is the one that I enjoy the least, but what I will say is Global warming is incredibly real because our summer, our winners, have been fairly mild.
Speaker 2:So if I move there, I don't know that means I'll I be dead first, just just burnt.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know, I was out there at the top of the calendar year.
Speaker 2:Dehydrated, I mean, it was nice really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was nice. I enjoy it was bizarro Indiana. It was literally like living in it. I felt like I was in Indiana, Just the weather was nicer.
Speaker 2:Interesting.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Interesting you know one of the things I want to do is I want to. I'm scared to go to Philadelphia, washington DC because I'm scared I'm gonna fall in love and you know me, I'm like, oh, I gotta be there.
Speaker 1:I Believe that my husband lives in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2:I.
Speaker 1:Love men. I love men from Philadelphia. I think this should be my birthday trip Philadelphia, let's do it, let's do it. So I told you I drove to Philadelphia for One of my shoes actually on the podcast Alex's Um I, one of my really good friends got me, is from Philadelphia. She's from Philly and we drove out there for her wedding and I had a phenomenal time.
Speaker 2:It's great Really, but it's cold up there though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the winter time. You worried about winter here it's gonna. It's cold there too.
Speaker 2:East Coast winters are different, though I find me a good old husky man he smells like hot pockets in my pocket, my Hog meat, pimento cheese.
Speaker 1:Well, carson, thank you so much for being here. I always appreciate talking to you. Remind the people of so be on the lookout for sugar shall. So what else?
Speaker 2:So is gonna be off the chain this year chocolate cover nights.
Speaker 1:Oh, not chocolate covered nights, just chocolate covered.
Speaker 2:Do not be giving my only fans stuff out. Please do disregard the oh look, y'all ain't ready to go to my. Don't be going on only fans looking for chocolate covered nights, because it's invite only. So, are you gonna see, is 14 layers of turtlenecks in stocks. So, sure, just also just doing some great things this year, I'm really excited. Um, you know, last year it was more so, I don't know, it was just I did something and then I fell in love with yeah, yeah, yeah, so we stepping it up for season two.
Speaker 2:I stepped that on faith. We're really stepping it up. I have a lot of things in the works. Once I get approved for management, yes to do it. I have a lot of people lined up for interviews that said yes, in Louisville, nashville, chicago. So a lot of people are really wanting to jump on board and be seen. But again, you know, the other episode is I want to really feature and focus on a lot of Hole in the wall hitting gyms in the black community, you know we have so many restaurants that work hard and if you know if I'm a lifer restaurant tour, it is a hard industry to make it in.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm especially now that everybody thinks they're a fucking food critic.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Everybody thinks they're an expert on food and all they know how to do is eat. Girl, just because you know how to eat, don't mean you an expert on food. Come on, tell me, these people work hard, mm-hmm, and what they do now I will give them one thing something we need to work on in our community is customer Service. Say it with me, y'all customer service black folks.
Speaker 2:We got to do better. Baby look, shanane, I know you needed a job. Fix your face and Welcome the people that's paying your paycheck, girl, or Louza boy? Customer service is something we need to work. It's something we need to work on. But that food be the bomb and y'all be out here reading these folks and that's all they know. That's their grandma, my recipe you're reading. Okay, they're not gonna say grandma, I'm a couldn't cook. But here we know grandma couldn't cook. Let's still throw them a bone. They might get better. Give them some suggestions. Maybe put some real cheese in that macaroni and it don't put so much butter in them neck bones. Who put butter in neck bones? Anyway, girl, take that butter out them neck bones, all right, but I don't belong and that is my new Logan.
Speaker 2:But I don't belong in neck bones girl.
Speaker 1:Oh my lord. Well, yeah, be on the lookout for sugar sauce. So, again, all of the episodes are streaming and we got some new content coming Again. Thank you all so much for listening to the things you should know. Podcast with tradition English. I'm tradition English. Don't forget to like, subscribe and share and I will talk to you next time. Okay, bye later.
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