Fandom, Faith, and the Road to Tomorrow

What if your love for comics, anime, games, film, and music could deepen your faith instead of competing with it? We’re charting a course where fandom serves a bigger story—one that keeps God at the center while celebrating bold imagination, honest craft, and a thriving community of makers.

We share why we’re doubling down on pop culture—character arcs, worldbuilding, cosplay, and the nitty-gritty of creative process—without losing our compass. You’ll hear our open invitation to artists, authors, illustrators, podcasters, musicians, developers, and costume designers to bring works in progress, talk shop, and ask hard questions. We keep it clean, civil, and welcoming, even when we disagree, because growth needs both safety and stretch. Along the way we reflect on art as therapy, how conversation steadies the mind, and why “wasted talent” is the only tragedy we refuse to host.

We also get practical. From pen and paper to tablets and DAWs, from analog skills to AI-assisted drafting, we explore the tools that help ideas take shape and the ethics that keep our choices honest. We discuss navigating trends, setting a weekly rhythm without burning out, and turning drafts into finished work that still feels alive. We spotlight community builders who’ve helped us level up and outline plans for a dedicated site to showcase listener projects, amplify creators, and connect resources across the fandom-and-faith space.

If you’re a creator who loves pop culture and wants to honor God through your craft, pull up a chair. Follow, share, and send us a DM to pitch your project or join us as a guest. Subscribe, leave a review, and tell us: what story should we explore next?

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:34

Welcome to the Compass Chronicles podcast where fandom meets faith. I am Javier. I'm glad you're here with us. Thank you for showing up and thank you for listening. And please don't forget to sign, to hit the um follow button, the like button, share it if you think um this episode will touch you and touch anyone else. Uh I'm here with my co-host, Mickey Woolery, and I'm gonna let her introduce herself today.

SPEAKER_00 0:59

Hi everyone, welcome back to Compass Chronicles, and thank you, Javier. It's glad to be here as always, and I'm excited to talk about where we are headed with this episode.

Why A Co-Host And What’s Next

Refocusing On Movies, Comics, Anime

SPEAKER_01 1:09

Yeah, we are uh excited of the things that are coming up uh on the podcast, things that we all are both doing separately. Um we all have our uh other podcasts that we are we are doing, and uh this is one of the collaborations that we both have, and uh I'm excited to have uh Mickey with me uh on everything we do. It's uh it's good to have another person's perspective other than your own. And uh you get to learn a lot from other people when you do have a co-host. Um we're uh we're moving into some uh things that we uh we're looking forward to moving into, which is more of movies, more comics, more anime. Uh, I know the last couple of episodes have been a little serious, but I think sometimes that's needed uh in our in our space. I think sometimes we have to ground ourselves and know that you know God is the center of all we do. Uh it's not just about our fandom and our likes. Uh, but uh we are moving forward to uh talk more about that and how it integrates in our faith. And I think me and Mickey are excited for doing that. Um we are we have a lot of ideas. We're planning a lot of stuff that hopefully in God in God's hands they'll work. But um I'm gonna let um Mickey just uh talk about her plans and what she wants to move forward with and things that she may like, you know, to talk about. And if you guys out that are listening have any ideas, please send us an email or DM us so we can uh talk about them.

Creativity And Faith As The Core

SPEAKER_00 2:33

So awesome, thank you for that. Um yes, definitely um love where we're going with this um podcast and what we're talking about with um talking about superheroes and anime and and um manga and all that, and we are going to be diving in and we want your in we want your input, we want you to engage. And we also we want to have um guests. So if this is you that we're talking to, if you're an artist um and you create comics of your own, we would love to talk to you about even what you're working on, what your creations are when it comes to this um um topic of discussion. Um there are lots of different varieties of um um superhero, um, you know, villain uh topics out there, but I know there's also a lot of creators out there that are working on their own stuff behind the scenes. And also we want to talk about um, you know, designing costumes and characters and and kind of storylines behind each specific character and kind of just what brings a whole story into place, whether it's you know, a good guy versus a bad guy, and the bad guy turns into a good guy or or whatever the story is. We want to we want to hear what you have to offer and we want to bring that to the table, and we just want to talk about it openly and have fun with it because you know, in the Bible, you know, we talk about faith, but it talks about having an imagination. God created us to be creative, you know, he created us with creativity, and I know that he gave us the ability to create. And I think that with this podcast, we have an open forum where we can just talk about so much creativity here. What do you think, Javier?

Open Call For Guests And Creators

Safe Space For Artists And Fans

Wasted Talent And Courage To Share

SPEAKER_01 4:12

I I couldn't agree with you more. I think uh we want to make this a safe space for every kind of artist, every kind of uh fan base, whatever you like. Um, obviously we are faith-based, so a lot of most of what we'll talk about how it relates to our faith, but we also want to talk about uh we want to talk to people about their imagination, about how do they get that creativity, how do they feel when they create something, or uh when an author writes a page or a book. Uh we want to talk to you too. We want to talk to authors, we want to talk to anyone who is in the creative space. It could be podcasters, it could be people who just do content, we do videos. I we just want to be uh known to everyone who's around that they can come here and discuss the stuff that they enjoy and also have a safe space to ask questions, uh things that you may not understand. And we always try to put the light of God in there because we know that the ultimate uh person who imaginates everything, who has done everything in this world is our God, our father. So we always want that to be centered. But we we um we think that it's gonna be fun. We think that there's a lot of people out there that are uh Christians that still love anime and comics, but maybe a little um confused or not understanding of why they can read this or not read this or anything else. And we want to be that lamp, we want to be that light that shows you yes, you can have creativity, you can love certain things, but God is always the center of it. And uh Mickey said it exactly like you know, God created, gave us imagination, he gave us creativity. So I think if it that's not used or talked about or blessed, then I think it's wasted. You know, there's a famous thing I like to say, it's always uh I think it's a Robert De Niro statement. Actually, it's a wasted talent. Um, I always believed in uh people, you know, uh if they're they're talented and they don't do anything with it, it's wasted talent. God gave you a talent to share it, to give it. Um, and if you hold on to it, you know, uh you're sort of being a little selfish because God gave you that. But I, you know, we can understand people get nervous or don't or are afraid of uh you know uh people criticizing them or anything like that. So those are the people I'm calling here today. If you're scared or you're nervous or you have an idea and you never we'll talk with you. We'll we'll you know, we'll have fun talking about your your idea, your your vision. And uh, you know, we can also talk about other things. And uh, you know, we like I said before, uh, this is not gonna be the longest episode, uh, only because we just wanted to tell you guys what's going on. We're excited. Uh, we're gonna have a few people on that I think are gonna be uh fun to talk to um and knowledgeable. Um and I also um, you know, want to thank Mickey for uh being patient with me because I can be absolutely insane in the things that I do. Uh I'm I'm very I I love this podcast and I love the people that I deal with and and everyone and that whole space. Um, I think it's a blessing for me. Uh people don't realize that this is my therapy. This is my mental health therapy, talking to other people, talking to Mickey and and everyone else. And uh, you know, I thank God that He's given us this uh way to talk. So anyway, uh I'm gonna let Mickey uh talk about what her plans are, what she has in the in the pot cooking and all that, and uh, so we can also enjoy that.

Art As Therapy And Community

SPEAKER_00 7:35

Well, thank you. I love what you said about um it being therapy because art is very therapeutic in general. Um, I am an artist, I'm a liquid, uh, a fluid artist. Um, I actually teach art in an art studio. I have my own art gallery and a bookstore. So it kind of goes right in line with this podcast, which is kind of cool. But I also know that um if you don't take your creativity to the next level, you're just a sitting duck. And you don't want to be that sitting duck. And we wanted to talk about how do we go to the next level? Let's let's get buzzed about it. Let's get hyped and and and discuss, you know, what's working, what's not working, what's what's coming out that's new, what's popular, what's kind of fizzled and died out. And um basically just kind of in in a whole realm, just bring it all to the table so we can just kind of like like Javier said, leave it as an open forum, but a place where we can um grow from one another, learn from each other. And if if if you are afraid, but you are working on something on the backlog and you just don't know what to do, let's talk about it. Let's figure out the ways that we can help you and you can help us, and we can work as a team because that's what this is all about. This is about building unity, um, a great community, uh a place where we can just um have great conversation, we can laugh about our our superheroes and our villains and what what makes them exciting, what makes them um, you know, who they are in our lives per se. And um, even if they're different, we may not all have the same likes as far as who our hero is, but we all have, I believe, a superhero in our lives, you know. And I think it's important that um we just kind of just gather everyone's thoughts and kind of lay them out on the table and let's just, you know, dive into them and see what we get out of it because who knows where it could take us. This this could take us to so many different levels. And we can learn from you as well as you can learn from us. And we want to learn, you know, there's there's nothing wrong with uh building and growing, um, especially in a new community. And um, you know, I like I like to learn like, you know, what's happening, what what are what are the big events and like um what trends there are with fandom and and cultural topics and get excited about it. I mean, I have a teenage daughter that loves anime, she's an amazing artist, and I'm I'm telling her she needs to get on the show and and just some of her art is fantastic. Um, I have a another, my oldest daughter is a published author, and um, she actually runs the bookstore. So she's definitely a book guru, so she could tell you a lot um as well. But if that's you, if we're if we're speaking to you and you have ideas that you want to share, um don't be afraid to bring them, bring them up and let's talk about them and let's just dive in and have great conversation because that's basically what this is about.

Trends, Tools, And Leveling Up

Family Creators And Listener Invitations

SPEAKER_01 10:20

Correct. Yep. I I I couldn't agree with you more. And and uh I love that you know, we all have people in our lives that are uh uh talented and have these gifts and we have that we can share to other people because uh I want people that when they listen to the show or whatever and they listen to someone that may be in the same position they are right now and have stepped out of that and have gotten bigger and better and and what their um road was to where they are now, because not everyone's walk or road is the same, right? We all reach a certain level at a certain pace, at a certain time. Not everybody becomes, you know, number one podcast. We're not all Joe Rogan here, we all can't, you know, become billion dollars, but we all have a purpose here, and God has a reason for everything. And um, if this can be a place where you can just talk about an idea like like Mickey said, an idea about a book uh or an idea of something that you have in your heart that you said, you know, I I just want to share it. Then we're here to listen to it, we're here to talk about it. Um there's so many people out there that are just I guess misrepresented, or so much talent out there that hasn't been touched or hasn't been seen. And I think, especially in the Christian world, um so many people are afraid to show who they are in artistic wise because they might be afraid to offend or you know, not be in that sense. But the way I see it, imagination is imagination, creativity is creativity. Only God creates, the devil destroys. So what you create is because God created it. Now we always want to make sure that what we do do is all on God's uh grace and understanding. We don't want to offend anyone or God or anything like that. But uh, you know, there are people who are manga artists, who are comic book artists, who are just artists in general, uh, and do certain types of art. You know, uh don't be afraid. Come to us, talk to us, you know. If we can help you uh find resources where you can share your faith and share your idea and your thought, then that's what we're here for. We we want to have fun here. We want to laugh, we want to, and it's not just about, you know, we're gonna talk about video games, we're gonna talk about music, uh, movies, just anything in the all-around pop culture realm, but there's always God in the center of it. We never take pop culture above what God is, we always put pop culture under God and see what how we can share our faith and share our love of stuff through God's eyes. And um, I think we're doing that here. I I pray to God we are. I think people enjoy our conversations. But I know we've just started these live um or face-to-face videos on YouTube, so we appreciate you guys following us on YouTube. We're uh we just started, so um, you know, uh any follow, any like, any comments, that would be amazing because that would help us grow. Um, and I know that Mickey has some things going on in the uh kitchen, and I think they're exciting. I'm excited for them. I I I'm I'm looking forward to being part of that as well. Uh, but Mickey, I know that you have some new podcasts coming up, or you have some podcasts that you're working on, and I want uh you to share that with our listeners.

SPEAKER_00 13:32

Well, there's always something cooking. You know, we eat every day, so it seems like you know, there's always a new recipe, and and sometimes we get ahead of ourselves and sometimes we burn it, sometimes it turns out perfect. So it just kind of depends. But yeah, I um I you know, I I have until my watch is over um podcast that is about dementia. And um, a lot of people look at dementia like it's um a downer, like it's you know, and it is. Um my book actually that I'm writing is called Dementia is a Killer. And yeah, that doesn't sound like um an exciting read, but let me tell you, there's a lot to it, you know, and so that's what that podcast is about. It talks about the do's and the don'ts, the ins and the outs, um, what works, what doesn't work. Same with this podcast. We want to do the same thing when it comes to um animation and um character design and um art form. Are you are you going pen to paper? Are you going digital? Are you using AI? Or is it all your own imagination? Um, or is it a 50-50 mix? What what is it that that you're um that you're presenting and using um that's working well for you? And I know like for myself, I'm as I'm learning and I'm growing and I'm developing, um, the ideas are just coming at me, like whoo, woo. You know, and I know Javier is probably 10 times faster than me. He's way ahead of me. He he worked so hard on this podcast. He's such a great creator. And by the way, if you need um any type of logos or any type of um creation, get a hold of Javier because he's your guy. He's gonna help you in those areas. He's great. He's helped me do my logo. He does um, he he does some of the music for um my intros on my podcasts and um um bringing in the verbiage for me to help start out my podcast. He knows how to do all that. He can walk you through it if you're learning. Um, and he he's just a great person for um using him as a resource, basically. I I I I think I can look up to Javier and be like, hey, help me. I need help with this.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

And yeah, we sure we both work both both ways. Trust me, I I I will I you know me. I ask you for your about your thoughts always. I never try to do anything. Um, but I appreciate that. And um it's it's uh love of my of what I do. But um anyway, keep going. I know that you have to. Yeah, oh yeah.

Different Paths, Same Purpose

Pop Culture Under God

SPEAKER_00 15:43

So as far as on the as far as on the back burner or you know, what's brewing right now, um, I am working on another podcast. I'm not even gonna announce that yet because it's still in the works, but um, we just have to be careful and mindful that we don't overwhelm ourselves, that we don't um um dog pile or you know, t topple our plates with too much. Um, you want it to be meaningful and you want it to be resourceful and you want it to be useful. And um, we just want there to be purpose in it. And I think that this podcast brings a lot of purpose to the table. And I think that as we share our creativity and what we do and we help one another through it, um, we can go a long ways. And um, in the podcast world especially, it's such a popular um type of entertainment that people like. They enjoy listening and watching and engaging and just getting ideas from us. And it and I know it stirs um more um ideas in in everyone else's mind as well as we're speaking. And so I think uh as far as the back burner goes, I know that with this podcast specifically, um, we really want to dive into a lot of different topics. So um it's it we're gonna try to keep it narrowed in each week on a topic so we don't get too, you know, elaborate or go too far or too fast. But um we do want to talk about, you know, what what what um the writer, you know, where does the writer come up with the script that they're they're they're talking about? Or what about um like your your when you first start your drawing and your rough draft and you're looking at it and and you know, like when you're looking at the picture, where does it take you? And and then when you look at the finished result, I don't know about you, Javier, but when I s when I start something and I look at the result, sometimes it's not always what I imagined in the beginning, but it turns out to be different. Oh, yeah. And sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't, and sometimes I have to go back to the drawing board, you know. And I think that's with everything in life that we do. We encounter that all, you know, all through our lives. And the thing is, is if we don't take that step forward and use our momentum and the gifts that God gave us, then we just sit idle, you know, and and we become, you know, it's like wasted time, wasted space, wasted, you know. And so let's let's try to be productive and and um fulfill our our our dreams. I have a lot of dreams. I know Javier has a ton of dreams, and and so we want to talk about those and um just elaborate on them. And we want to bring you on as a guest. If you want to be a guest, come on here and share, share your story with us, share what you're working on, um, how how you're progressing, or if you're stuck and you want some information, um, we're here to help with that. That's what that's kind of what we're here for. And like I said, we want to learn from you and we want to be able to help you as well.

YouTube Growth And Support

Other Shows And Mindful Pace

Process, Drafts, And Finishing Work

Be A Guest And Share Progress

Agree To Disagree With Grace

Break The Ice And Find Your Voice

SPEAKER_01 18:29

Awesome. That's what exactly what um I wanted to say. Mickey just said it perfectly. Uh, we want you to um be a guest. We want guests on our show. We want as many as we can talk to. I love talking to people, we both do. Um, we we enjoy good conversation, we enjoy civil discourse, we enjoy all that. And also, if we don't agree, we agree to disagree. That's what God's love is, right? We agree, but we don't judge. And uh, and that's what I want to be here. I may not agree with every artist that comes on the show, but I want to talk to you, I want to learn. I want to, we both want to know what clicks in your mind, like what's in your heart, what makes who you are and do what you do. Um, like artists and authors, musicians, um, you know, uh speakers, uh, people. Like, if you want to be a speaker and you feel nervous and you want to get on the show and talk to us to break that ice, you're more than welcome, you know, to come on and and just talk and feel comfortable on the mic or whatever, we're here. Um, so you know, we uh like Mickey said, we have uh plans in the work for a bunch of things. My mind goes about a thousand miles an hour. Uh people know me. I'm always either generating something, creating something, or or something. And uh I think that's what content creation is about, always keeping content going. Um, but I'm learning not to stress myself out. Um, not trying to overperform because then you tend to push and it comes out bad or ugly. Um, and you know, you wanna everything we do here on this show, we wanna uh honor God with it. We don't want to just be podcasters just for the heck of being podcasters. Um, there's a purpose for the show, there's a purpose for all our shows. Um and uh again, you don't have to be a Christian to get on the show. Please, I want people to understand that you don't have to have full faith or whatever. If you're an artist, any type of person who loves pop culture and just wants to have a nice conversation, and if we bring the you know the topic of God in, just know that that's part of what we are. Uh, and if you feel comfortable with that, listen, reach out to us. Uh, you can either DM me, or you can DM uh Mickey, you can email us, um, all the things that you know, uh, whatever you want to talk about. Um, and like Mickey said, I have other uh podcasts that are coming out. Uh and she said I'm not gonna mention them because it's still in a work in progress, um, but they are exciting, um, and I'm looking forward to uh doing them. Um and also about the Sasquatch Syndicate Studios. Everybody knows that I have put out my stuff. I'm always generating a design or something like that. So um that's what God put in my heart. I do, and I want people, I'm gonna be 100% transparent. I use AI, I use every type of AI generation I can use, but the idea is my idea, and what I like to explain it how is I'm have amazing ideas in my head, but I don't have the talent or the skill set to put it on there. And we're talking about art, design, stuff like that. I have amazing ideas, I just can't draw for the life of me. If you ask me to draw a face, I'll probably mess it up. But my idea, I can write it down, and the AI will then generate it. And that is amazing to me. Um, that means I can create stuff at last that I thought I could never do and represent the show and and and do stuff for people that just don't have that skill set. And you know, I enjoy doing them. I love seeing people's visions come alive, um, their ideas and everything. So, again, if you guys are interested, you can always reach out to me. Um, and I'm open to uh different things. I will design your logo, your music, whatever you may need. Um, or if you have questions, you know, on how to do certain things, you know, I'll be more than glad to try and work out with you. Um So again, we are looking for you guests. We're looking for some amazing people on the show. We've had some amazing people on the show. And they have been a blessing to us. And uh, you know, shout out to Rory, Wanda, and I keep forgetting Bethany. Bethany. Yes, Bethany. Thank you, my love. Um, they were such pleasures to be on the show. And especially for that being our first show, like our first or second show together and with hosts, I think it was really cool. And with Rory getting on, uh being our first guest. Um, if people don't know Rory Patette, he is one of the coolest people you will ever meet. And he is one of the smartest people when it comes to um podcasting and and speech and uh just being all around content sterps. So if you uh are looking for that, uh I would definitely recommend uh Rory. I will put down his uh information in our uh in the comments. I will also put Mickey's uh for the uh other podcasts on there as well, um, so that we can uh you know you can share that. And uh Rory will be a blessing to anyone. He's been a blessing with me, he's been a blessing with Mickey, and uh we've grown, and I think he is the person that you should come see or talk to, even have a conversation. He's one of the coolest people you can talk to. He was my first, I think he I was his first show person on the show that he had now, and I was the first person that I interviewed with. So that's exciting. Uh and Mickey was the second. You were the second one uh when I first started doing this whole face-to-face podcast thing with all the people. Uh uh, but it's been fun, it's been a heck of a ride, it's been stressful, it's been fun, it's been sad. Um, there's been some little bit of disappointments in things, but I think that's happens in all our lives, right? Not everything is perfect, not everything runs 100%. And uh, you know, but so so far, you know, we've been blessed in the show. We've been blessed to have some really nice people, and we're looking forward to really, really getting into the pop culture realm uh and touching base on all these things that we just love. From you know, it could even be tech stuff. I'm a huge techie, I love tech. So if you are a guy who loves software and wants to talk about the software you're creating, or maybe you created a Bible app, if you're an app creator, that's still creation, that's still something that God, you're more than welcome to come on the show. We can talk about it, we can, you know, even if we don't know anything about that, we will definitely talk about it because we're both here to learn. We we me and Mickey do not know 99% of what's out there. We know what we know and we'll share it, but we want people to come in to share with us because, like I said, this is therapy for me, it's a benefit, it's a therapy for Mickey, and it's all it helps our souls, our growth, our mental health. Um so yeah, we really are looking forward to uh talking to uh new guests and everything else. Uh you can find us on uh graysandgrime ministries.com. That's where pretty much everything is under. Um, I am working on getting a separate only uh website for the podcast, um, just alone for the podcast so that it's uh it has its own world, its own place where people can just and people have art and stuff. I can post it up there and just help them generate um um advertisement for them and anything like that. And if anybody's interested in advertising with us, we're open to it as well. Um, you know, we'd love to share your idea with the world or for the listeners who listen to us. And again, thank you for those who watch and listen. You know who you are. We thank you so much for your support. Um, again, like I said, this is gonna be a pretty short episode, not much, but I wanted to get we both wanted to get something out because we missed last week. Uh, we both had craziness as the world comes in. We have things that we need to do, and again, I apologize for missing a week. Um, I learned that we should at least do one a week so that we don't lose our, you know, and and like I said, I'm learning. This is all new to me in having a co-host and having someone to bump off ideas because I've been doing this by myself forever. Uh, and I really, really am excited. So um, again, you can find us on Grace and Gracengrind Ministries.com. Uh, you can uh find us on Facebook. We are uh Compass Chronicles Podcast is our Facebook page. We have a uh Mickey has her website uh and her page. Um you can also follow her on there. I'll put all these things in the show notes so everybody can click them and find them. Uh again, uh Mickey, it's always a blessing to have you with me. Uh, we have so much fun when we talk uh and when we discuss things. And I can't even imagine what's gonna go on and the things and the ideas that we both have are just gonna be you guys are gonna be really surprised and really happy uh and excited. I hope you guys will be just excited as we are, and we want you to be that excited. We want you to come in, join, you know, lock in and follow us so you don't miss any new episodes or any things that come up. Uh, you know, I'm always putting up stuff that if Mickey has a show, I'll put it up. If Mickey, anything, uh I'm always there to support our fellow podcasters. So um, you know, I want podcasters to come to us and talk to us. Hey, what are you doing wrong? Or what I I did this wrong and I couldn't, you know, and also again, I I I can't radiate more Rory more. If you have those real difficult questions and stuff and you need help, I would recommend following him and and you know and work with him. Uh again, thank you so much, uh Mickey, and thank you everyone for uh listening to this very short episode. Uh, but we wanted to just tell you all the exciting things that are coming and may come and will come. And we just ask that God, you know, blesses you uh this week, this weekend. Uh, whenever you hear this, that God is in your presence and that you are blessed. And whatever, you know, remember that God loves you. Uh price is the only way. And uh, you know, with that, I will um tell Mickey to send us off.

Purpose Over Pressure

SPEAKER_00 28:42

Thank you for that. That was a that was that was a good one. Um, I do want to say that, um, and I think Javier could agree with me on this, that um in this podcast, as as fun as we as much fun as we want to have, we just need to remember that we want to keep it civil. Like, like you said, if we have a disagreement, we're gonna agree to disagree. And also we want to keep it clean. Um, we know there are some comics and some movies and some music and and and some some very secular stuff in the world. Um, which some of those still have great stories to them, but we just need to be careful because this is still faith-based. So we want to make sure that we're just watching our verbiage and we're not throwing out the F-bomb and you know.

SPEAKER_01 29:22

Thank you for refreshing that just discussion.

Using AI As A Creative Tool

SPEAKER_00 29:25

Um we want to just um keep it real civil and on the down low and just to have it, just to keep it really respectful. Um, just not just because it's the right thing to do, but also because it honors God. So I just want to just wanted to throw that in there. But yeah, I'm super excited to see where we're gonna go. I can't wait to learn from you guys and Javi are learn from you all the time. Um, that's why I follow you uh so closely because you you teach me so much stuff. And same with Romary, um I feel like I'm just like hanging on to his telephone, like, teach me more, teach me more. So but I think that's what it's all about is just learning and growing and gaining um, you know, a a broader spectrum from where where we start from. And that's you know how we get from point A to point B to someone, you know, is by you know just learning and being willing to learn and having that openness to learn, you know, from one another and not just always thinking that we know it all. Because I know I don't know it all. Like you said, I know about 99% of it I don't know. But the one percent I know, I do know. You know, like what you know, you know. I know you're good at what you do. And that's why I don't pretend to know what you know because I don't know it. So I will go to you for it. And I do thank you for that. No, thank you. So, everyone listening, I just want to say thank you for um joining us on Compass Chronicles, um, where Fandom Meets Faith. And we cannot wait to have you guys hook up with us. So reach out if you want to be a guest. Don't hesitate to say, hey, I think I think this is what I want to do, and um send us a message um to Javier or even myself, and let us know, and we will get you scheduled so we could um have a great conversation with you.

SPEAKER_01 31:01

All right, guys, we'll see you in the next one.