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If you're new to human design or you're a certified human design geek, I am sure that you've heard about the new paradigm. And if you haven't heard about the new paradigm yet, I am certain that you have noticed and felt a shift in consciousness. There is something that is changing around us. There is an awareness on the depth of our spiritual essence that is emerging in all corners of our life, our surroundings.
There is this new, growing consciousness towards a more whole. It's a wholesome integral part of existing and so from the human design perspective, we talk about the shift in consciousness. We talk about the new paradigm that will emerge in 2027. So what this means is that there is a background frequency that has had an agenda influencing the way that we show up, the way that we interact, the way that we love, the way that we conduct ourselves that is going to be.
Changed by a different energy in a different frequency that will allow us for the first time in the history of humankind to be pure consciousness expressed pure individual consciousness expressed and so what happens is that as we're moving into this new era as We're getting closer to 2027. We're going to start Noticing, sensing, feeling, seeing, and becoming aware that the structures, the dense structures that used to hold in place these old structures are slowly falling.
They're slowly crumbling. Things like the law. We all understand the law has nothing to do with being fair. It has to do with the rules, with made up rules. Um, doctors, the way that our grandparents used to look up to doctors and whatever they said, that's what we're going to do now. You and I, we go to the doctor, they give us a diagnosis.
They might give us, um, some medication to kind of. put a band aid and we're going to go and be like, hold on, doctor, I'm going to chat GPT this shit. And I'm going to like, um, you know, check the internet and find a holistic approach that will actually get to the root of it. And this has nothing, I'm like super in favor of modern Madison.
Okay. I'm not, this is no hate towards the structures. We already have in place the structures we already have in place. They have helped us. We needed them. to evolve from this very intrinsic survival kind of mentality that we used to have as humans before we became nine centered beings, which is what we are right now.
And so we're in the midst of this transition. And I truly believe that COVID was such a like portal opening moment where things got accelerated. And now, because structures are crumbling, there is this need for reassessment. There is this need, need for restructuring of power, of guidance, of leadership.
What does it mean? How does it look like? What we've been experiencing until now does no longer work. And each and every one of you listening right now knows deep down in their bones that the way things have been done Are not the way things will be able to continue because our awareness, our connection to our own guiding system and our individual way of experiencing life is absolutely heightened and we are no longer capable of removing the wisdom of removing that connection to self and trying to sacrifice our dreams, our purpose for the good and the better of the whole.
And so, because we're noticing these change in structures, what is happening is that What will disappear completely is this kind of pyramid way of structure and power. The way things have been working was like we had the powerful kings and the conquerors, this kind of manifester energy at the top of the pyramid.
And with their authoritarian energy, with their dominance, with their fear tactics, with their power, they would coerce others in doing things for them. And this doesn't mean that the manifestors have this inherently within them, okay? There's this incredibly beautiful awakening of manifestors, there's the shift in consciousness, manifestors not, most of them don't adhere at all to what I'm saying because I'm talking about the olden times, okay?
So the idea is that power used to be this pyramid structure. Power on top, ruling the bottom. What we're noticing now, what we're seeing is the shift in leadership. And what's happening is that we can no longer inform or build ourselves out of a problem. And so, the new energy that will bring us leadership and that will make sure that we are able to overcome all of the obstacles with grace and charm for whatever is coming ahead of us for the crumbling of the system as we know it, The guiding power is going to be the projectors.
And so the projectors are going to have an incredible rise in recognition because even though they haven't been able to fit into society's norm for many, many, many years. They are actually part of the movement that will change society's norm so that everything fits more within the projector perspective, the projector energy, and the projector guidance.
And so, because we're seeing this change of structure, there's really this understanding. That just through this new power dynamic where projectors are going to use their capacity for really seeing the other person is going to contribute to so much value and is going to be able to support all of humanity.
To move into this shift in consciousness and into the new paradigm and so In this conversation I have today. I am interviewing flint skidmore who is a incredibly magnetic A line projector if you haven't seen his long haired sunk his face all over the for you page I don't know what you're doing. He has this incredible capacity for Describing terms and talking about subjects that are in like this spiritual, psychological niche terms and words that we all hear like authenticity and purpose.
And it might seem like we should know what they mean, but he has this incredible gift of reframing and giving a whole new concept and perception of this theme that we have been discussing, that all of us have been engaging with, that we're. You know that questions are coming up within us to understand.
What is this all about? And so what drives him from What I have seen and the time that I spent with him is really being sure that He is supporting the people in his life or his community to become the best version of themselves that they want to be. And so this is so beautiful to watch and it's even nicer to experience because in this conversation, you will literally feel his intentions as an aligned projector.
Your success is directly linked to the amount of success that you create in the life of others. And so Flynn has had an incredible intense life. And his persistence and his drive to continue to figure out how to share his gifts with the world is an incredibly inspiring story. The thing that I have discovered or the way that I really see Flynn is that he is, he's a thinker.
Like he is a thinker of our times. Because you can really see the mechanics of his mind. work to figure out and put together the pieces of the puzzle for something coherent for us to understand our obstacles better and be able to overcome them. And so one of the things that I always say, which I think is one of the most important things for any projector to understand, is that Your worth does not come from how much you do, but your worth comes through being able to communicate clearly what only you can see.
And in this conversation, we will hear how Flynn overcame his obstacle of being able to communicate his vision. And create an incredibly successful, enriching, beautiful, supportive business. And so I think this conversation is so valuable for everybody who's interested in understanding how guidance and leadership will look like.
There is this inherent fear that I notice in my sessions with clients, in workshops, whenever I talk about human design. And the words that I'm using have a masculine inherent energy. Let's say leadership, power, all of these words a lot of times bring up rejection. And I personally think this is because we have been influenced by the patriarchy, which could have had Or a lot of people have experienced with intense, you know, like negative connotations, but we're always forgetting about the divine masculine energy.
And so if you want to understand how this new kind of leadership looks like, if you want to. Deeply hear and feel what aligned action, guidance, support looks like. Listen to this conversation because ladies and gentlemen, Flynn Skidmore is the projector that is not only embodying His energetic authenticity, but he is really leading us into the new paradigm with the way that he lives his life from the way that he puts intention into the words that he swirls in the water that he drinks to the kind of life that he has created for himself so that he can really show up as his best version and continue to be in his purpose of supporting people in his life and his community is absolutely mind blowing and just being able to sit down with him.
The kind of presence his mind requires is to me a gift that I'm so excited to share with you. So. If you're a projector who's struggling to connect to your purpose, who's going through a tough time, who doesn't know how to wait for the invitation, who isn't sure what their gifts are and how to communicate them, this episode is absolutely gonna really give you a new inspiring perspective for everybody who is watching.
is curious to understand how the new leadership looks like and how it feels like. Flynn is the person that has this incredible capacity of making you feel seen, making you feel heard, and has a beautiful way of creating space for you. So enjoy this episode where I get vulnerable and we dive deep into all things authentic energy, aligned projector ness, and this new way of embracing.
Your purpose in living the life that you dream of.
Flynn, thank you so much for being here. I'm so excited
Flynn Skidmore: to have you. Thank you so much for having me. I'm really excited to be here. I love human design. And I love the experience of like someone looking. I'm so excited for you to take a look at my chart and get to have this like melting experience of learning about myself.
Maike Gabriela: Yes. Um, so honestly, the first thing that I did when I saw your I was kind of like laugh to myself cause I'm like, Oh, of course Flynn has this crazy design. You have a super intense design for being a projector, like crazy. And one of the first things that stands out to me is that you're crown, the energy center of the head, where it's inspiration, thoughts, ideas is defined.
So you have a very dominant energy, your Ajna, which is the way that you perceive the world, the opinions that you form is also super defined and has like a through line and it's connected to your throat. So your purpose, aside from like. A different, like aside from your incarnation cross, which is another part of your purpose that I'm going to read out to you is all about communicating your ideas and your thoughts
Flynn Skidmore: with the world.
That seems to be right. Like my, uh, ideas, concepts swirl in my mind. endlessly. I dream about them. Like it's, it's literally nonstop. And it, it wasn't until I started to learn how to communicate them to be useful for other people that I was like, I, I was imprisoned in thought. before. I've still imprisoned them a little, a little bit, but they're, but the only way to access freedom was to learn how to communicate them.
Maike Gabriela: Yeah. And, and this is something that I really want to get into, but before we go really deep, because I noticed that all my conversations were like diving deep directly, um, just to give people like a little bit of context, do you know your big three in human design? I mean, I can say them if you don't. My, my big three.
Yeah. It's like energy type profile
Flynn Skidmore: and authority. I don't, I don't know him right off the bat, so it'd be helpful if you say, um, yeah.
Maike Gabriela: Uh, so you're a protector and you're energy type. You have a five one profile, which means that you have a transpersonal karma that part of your karma is really. You are the person who is most inclined of wanting to help others, which comes through so clearly in the way that you communicate and in the community that you've built, I feel like, um, and then you have an emotional authority and emotional authority is the way that you make decisions.
It should not be immediate decisions, but really allowing yourself to feel every possibility of the decisions that are impending. So there's your
Flynn Skidmore: top three. So, so it's wise for me to not make a decision about something immediately. But rather take a little bit of time and feel into all of the different possibilities that present themselves to me.
Yeah. I, I tend to be a little impulsive in my decision making and I can see how that's been problematic and that, that makes sense.
Maike Gabriela: I mean, I think, you know, there's always layers, right? So with the emotional authority, just from the human design perspective, because obviously as humans, we're so broad and human is just this little thing that I just find fascinating.
Um, but the emotional authority just means that you are a little bit moody, that you can be in a great mood and then you can be in a not so great mood. And it's actually nothing where you have to be pointing at other people, but it's really your internal process of dealing with what you're feeling. And so it's this mechanism and your life probably is similarly, you know, yesterday, tomorrow, but it's.
The perspective of this emotional way that you have that kind of like taints your experience. And so when you're able, which I know that you absolutely are aware of, cause it's a very like therapy thing to say, but when you're able to watch yourself from the outside, when you're able to observe your emotional kind of rollercoaster without getting swept into that wave, you gain a much clearer perspective.
And so. The reason we say you should at least wait 24 hours for big decisions, right? Like relationships, uh, work, jobs, all of these things that are like, you know, that have some impact on being able to change the trajectory of your life, that you just need that time to really. Feel it out. Cause if you're very impulsive, maybe you're in a high of your wave and you're like, I'm going to do this.
It's going to be amazing. And then three days later, you're like, Oh, why did I say yes? I wanted to take my girlfriend that weekend to wherever. And now I'm like stuck with this thing on work that I didn't really want to do or the other way around. You're like an emotional low. And you're like, Oh no, this sucks.
I don't really want to do it. And then you're like, why did I say no? Like this was an incredible opportunity.
Flynn Skidmore: You know, Yeah, that, that resonates. I'm thinking about all these decisions I've made over the last few months and the ones where I've waited 24 hours or more. And the ones where I've wanted to dive into what, what Emily, my, my partner has helped me out with.
which has been incredibly valuable is, uh, like, let's say I'll, I'll, I'll get in contact with someone who, um, who I might want to mentor me or something like that. Or I, or I meet someone where there's an opportunity for business partnership. My inclination is to be like, Oh, I'm, I'm 90 years. It's forever.
I'm going, I already know I'm diving in right now. And I have gotten myself into trouble with that tendency. I've committed to long term things that I've quickly found out were not the actual thing that I wanted. What Emily has been helping me with is like, let's just take bite sized pieces, like dip your toes in, do one session with.
this person and see, do a consultation, see if you like it, do a session, see if you like it. It's been really helpful because a lot of the things that I've been so sure is the right thing and like really willing to die on that cross and convince everyone it's the right thing. I dip my toe and I'm like, ah, no, actually that's not it at all.
This is so
Maike Gabriela: interesting because I would, I mean, we don't have our information, but it would be interesting to look at a chart. Because you have an open spleen. And so the energy center of the spleen is intuition and instinct. And because this is open, there is not a consistent access to your intuition. And so it just means that you will not always be able to trust that.
And oftentimes what I see in relationships is that either you connect through like Half a gate and half a gate when they connect, that's where like sparks fly. But oftentimes it just might be that Emily has a refined spleen and through her energetic, you know, like safety, she's able to show you and guide you like, Oh, you're like jumping, you know, way quickly out of the window.
Flynn Skidmore: That resonates. You know, like that re that resonates. She is this like grounding decision making force. And when you put it like that, so what I know about our charts, I don't know that much about her. She's a manifesting generator. Um, and I know that our charts like the composite, when they're combined, all the things are defined.
Uh, ah, so nice. So that, that lets me know that she must have a defined spleen. Exactly. And and when you say that, I'm like, wow, that is her genius. She's always telling me like, no, just. Do it like this. I know I'm right about this. Now I'm going to like have zero resistance to that and listen to everything she says.
Maike Gabriela: Yes. Do that. Generally always, you know. Um, so what was the first time that you found out that you were
Flynn Skidmore: a projector? Great. Oh, I'm excited to speak about this. So I, uh, I started working, I was, I was at this Point in my business where I had committed to doing it full time. Um, and it was the first time ever I had taken, I had taken the leap and the, the, the way that that decision came about, I was working two jobs, my business and I was a school counselor and it was too much for me as a projector who only has like four hours of energy a day.
I was working like 12 hour days and dying. Um, But I had these metrics for myself. I knew how much money I wanted saved up. And I knew how much money I wanted to be making from my business in order to take the full leap and go for it. And then COVID happened. And all of a sudden, I didn't have to go into my job as a school counselor anymore.
And I could focus, you know, focus almost all my attention and energy on work. And so at that time, I started working with a mentor. His name is Julian. I don't work with him anymore. Um, who has been studying human design for, I think, 30 years, something like that. So he's an OG. He's been around for a while.
And I had never heard of it before I started working with him. Uh, and so he did one of our first sessions. He did a reading for me and he told me, I'm this thing called a projector and it, and it changed my, it rocked my world. All of these things that I had been confused about, guilty about shaming myself.
For, for my tendencies. My patterns are not what they seem like they're supposed to be. It all made sense.
Maike Gabriela: That's so beautiful to hear because literally that was my experience as well. All it it like this shame of like, why am I not able to do this thing? Why am I. Like, it's so crazy because that was really such a pivotal point and it's not even because I'm a projector, but it's that understanding.
It's that empathy that it's generated, that releasing myself from this idea of who I thought I had to be and just being like, Oh, the way I am is totally fine and okay. I'm not broken. Crazy. That's insane. You know, a
Flynn Skidmore: hundred percent, you know,
Maike Gabriela: what's really interesting as well is that. You know, from this human design perspective in 2027, we're going to have this paradigm shift new consciousness.
There's lots of crazy stuff happening. Okay. But one of the big components is that this shift is going to bring projectors to the rise because the way that society is built now, it's built on like, you know, this hustling energy working nine to five consistent, consistent, consistent, generated manifesting general energy, but the wisdom in the, you know, unique perspective, the projectors have.
Which I think also fits the way that, you know, I've seen you come up and the way that you just move through life and communicate and all of these things is really that projectors are going to guide us into the new paradigm. So they're going to be these new leaders really that have a completely different kind of structure and hierarchy, right?
Before we used to have this pyramid and it's like the manifesto, very aggressive, like controlling everybody with fear and the projector. And this is so crazy because you do that constantly. I mean from the little interaction that we've had, but I see you do that. It's Through asking questions. And I feel like you are the master of asking questions.
Like your innate curiosity makes every conversation a question to understand the other person deeper.
Flynn Skidmore: Yes. Thank you so much for seeing me that way. I, I do experience that as a superpower of mine and it's like a kind of a basic superpower, but it's. It's cool to be able to tap into something like that.
And I love the way that you're describing this. I've been thinking about, I remember that someone said, or I'd come across that information about 2027 and this shift in power dynamics and projectors now leading the way. And one of the ways that I want that to be, and maybe it's just already happening, is like when I think about.
Like the me too movement. And when I see this stuff with P Diddy happening right now, I'm seeing, yeah, it's, it's what it is. It's, it's like, it's this version of power that relies on shadow and darkness and it relies on people's addictions to money and power and status. And, and you know, like P Diddy is absolutely the perpetrator in this sense, but everyone who's part of that is in part responsible for it because everyone's shadows.
That version of power requires everyone to be in a shadow version of themselves. I want the exact opposite. Like I want a version of reality where the people who are experiencing power are experiencing it because they're like giving other people power. It's not about hiding things away about ourselves.
It's about asking questions and learning about who people are and what they actually want. Rather than creating a version of reality where in order to be successful or to taste like they're to get. some oxygen, some ounce of something they want, they have to live life through this unconscious wound.
Maike Gabriela: Totally. And I think that's really one of the pillars of what we're going to see change. Yeah. And I think it's a really interesting perspective also to bring that right. We have this incredible con like negative connotation with power because we've seen, you know, such detrimental things happening and misuse of power that anytime I say to somebody, Oh, you are authoritarian or you have leadership qualities or you, you know, you're powerful.
They're like, no, I don't like that. Like that's, you know, suppressing and that's treating people bad. So. Yeah. Um, I absolutely agree. One of the things that I always like, if I give a reading, the number one thing that I want projectors to take away is that your value as a projector is not a much is not about how much you're able to do, but really how well you're able to explain what only you can see, because every projector has a specific niche where they see things better than anybody else.
And I've heard you. Talk and share your struggle off. You know, communicating your ideas. Um, how did you overcome that? And what can you give as tangible as tangible advice to somebody who is struggling to really communicate what they're able to see in their You know, perspective. So
Flynn Skidmore: it's funny that you asked that because, uh, part of my struggle with communication is sharing tangible advice.
I really struggle with the tangible. It's very difficult for me to organize my it's very, it's. almost like, it's almost like I have a learning disability. It's very difficult for me to organize my thoughts and my perspective into like a one, two, three, four, five point. This is what you do because the way that my, the way that I operate is like, Oh, well, if you're struggling to understand what you want and struggling to communicate, like that's the same thing that's happening when a solar system is organizing itself, which is the same thing that's happening with like the atoms It's too much.
It's too much. And My struggle has been figuring out how to identify what's useful for people, what they actually need, uh, rather than just like, like dissolving into the infiniteness of everything. It's just, you know, it's, it's, you know,
Maike Gabriela: You have the gate of mystery, which is literally also, it's connecting.
Your or the channel of mystery, it's connecting your crown and your Ajna. So like your thought process, your ideas, you can be inspired whenever, wherever, like you don't really need outside impulses. You just have this brilliance of the mind that's like, you know, ready to go, but you understand the mysteries of life in all areas.
And I think that a little bit in this, you know, comes up, it's like, Oh, you know, I'm connecting all of the dots with all of the things that are happening all over the world. Like everything is connected in that is that wisdom that you carry. Oh, there, there's a certain mystery of things that I don't have access to.
Flynn Skidmore: Yeah. It's like, yeah, it's, it feels good to have you reflect that back to me because that is what it's like. It's like, okay, well, if, if global, if like global political conflict and social conflict, like is somehow connected to the same dynamics that form solar systems, like how do I create. a newsletter that's like the three things that you need to know about what happens with the shame that comes up when you see the, the crisis happening in Gaza.
It's like very, it's a, it's very challenging for me to do that. But to answer your question as tangibly as I can, when I, I, I, um, I, I did horribly in high school. I did horribly in college. I never, I always felt like I had good ideas, but I was scared. I guess I was scared of doing the work required to be able to succeed in school.
So what I did was operate with the arrogance of saying that like everyone is too stupid to understand my ideas. And I don't need to figure out how to communicate because if you don't know what I'm saying, then you're just stupid and you're not going to get it. And I don't like that version of myself, but it is absolutely in me and it comes out time to time.
And when you're talking about like these emotional waves, like that's the worst version of me who's angry and resentful about the world for not already understanding what it seems that I see. And that's bitterness, bitter, bitter. It's bitter. Not a good version of me. It's not. It's like, I like it though.
I do try to have passion for me. Um, so it was very clear to me when I'm like starting to create content and grow my business, I was like, I know that I have something to share that's valuable. And I also know that I've, I've spent my whole life avoiding. Actually getting good at communicating and I've blamed other people rather than taking full responsibility for being able to take and harness these things and make them useful and attractive to other people.
And if I want to be as successful as I want to be, if I want to live this life of like professional athlete and professional artist where I get to write and play tennis and help people all day and work like two hours. I better fucking figure out how to do this because if I don't, I'm not going to be successful.
And then I'm going to be one of those bitter, resentful, spiteful people who's blaming the world rather than taking ownership of the thing that I wasn't good at and getting good at it. So it became clear to me that in order to live the life that I want to, where I just want to be this like smiling heart bouncing around, like having beautiful interactions with people in order to have that.
Um, I need to fall in love with communication. I need to fall in love. I need to be more in love with the idea of someone receiving something that I can share and digesting it and making it their own and making it even better than what I'm able to come up with than I am in love with the idea of maintaining this, like this sort of like, um, Kind of shallow sense of self esteem of being too smart for anyone to understand.
So I had to make that choice. I had to like choose to leave that relationship and enter this new relationship where I'm truly invested in other people's experience. And I will say, it's like, I have a little bit of a toxic relationship with the arrogant, shallow self esteem. Like sometimes that version of me, Texas texts like nude pics and I'll respond to it.
You know what I mean? Like it's, it's not, it's, it's hard. It's something that I have to work against. Um, and it's. It's a choice every day to be in love with the communication, being good at communicating.
Maike Gabriela: Yeah. You know, the reason why this also really stands out to me, because again, we're talking about, you know, the struggle and just this concept of communicating your opinions and this like strong urge that you feel in this.
it's, it's also like so clearly a gift of yours. Um, and you have it in the channel that I call the Kanye West
Flynn Skidmore: channel. That's a great name for it.
Maike Gabriela: And the reason I call this the Kanye West channel is because the original like proper name is genius freak. And so it's really important for you to figure out who are the people that you're talking to.
And so these stories of the solar system is connected to whatever, whatever, because that's where I stopped understanding, you know, where that stops. Um, you're going to find people who you're going to share that with, and they're going to be like, whoa, Flynn, amazing. You're such a visionary, you're a genius, you know, uh, and then you're going to have people who are going to be like, Flynn is totally insane.
Like that guy is crazy. So really knowing when and who you choose to share this incredible perspective. And I think one of the beautiful things and interesting things as a projector is that, you know, especially, you know, projectors have this base of feminine energy. That doesn't mean that they can't be very masculine and be divine masculine and all of the things, but the way that they interact has this feminine quality.
And so being a man, you know, in a very. Goal driven society and trying to show up in the world without forcing your opinions, your point of views on other people, I think is, you know, a very challenging thing for all protectors to do. And so showing up on social media is really a great way to be seen, to share your wisdom without being too, you know, like.
Trying to prove to everybody how smart you are trying to prove to everybody how much, you know, or I know, like whatever, like for all of us projectors, right? Um, and so I'm interested in understanding how you have been able to, yeah, just show up and embody this, you know, like energy of knowing stuff without forcing it too much onto other
Flynn Skidmore: people.
I, that's a great question. And I, I don't think that, okay, here's, here's, here's what it is. I, when you're speaking about like knowing my audience and the people that I'm, that I speak to the, the, I have some relationships in my life. Like I can think of, uh, clients right off the bat who it just, it feels so good.
It feels so good to communicate with them because, um. There, there are a few people in my life who I don't know what it is. Like there's, there's some like harm harmony there where the, the, the, the energy is like the, the thing that's being exchanged, it's so harmonic that it allows me to go to the limitations of what I can see and then to see something new that I've never seen before.
And then there are other relationships where it's disharmonic and then I get bitter and annoyed. with like that person and then I blame them and I'm judgmental and all that. But those relationships where God, it just feels so good. I can be this like wild, kind of insane version of myself and they like it and they enjoy it and they like the things that I speak about.
But it all it, but I noticed with these kinds of people who I'm thinking about, they have this beautiful genius capacity to take wild shit. that I share, and they know how to make use of it. Like it, it makes sense to them, even if it doesn't make sense. And it frees me up to not have to operate in the more masculine version of point A, point B, point B, point C.
They're able to filter it and to receive it and then to figure out how to apply it to their own life. So there's a, there's a certain type of person. that is able to do that. And I haven't yet pinned down like who exactly that is. I just know that what, what, what it feels like to be in relationship with that kind of person.
And the primary teacher for me has been my sister, like her. The harmony that she and I have together is unbelievable. Like, I, I posted this thing, it was her birthday the other day, and I said this cause I was like writing about her in the morning and her birthday. And this idea came through that like reincarnation was invented so that everyone's soul gets a chance to come back and be close to her.
Like that actually might be true. She is incredible. And you know,
Maike Gabriela: I
Flynn Skidmore: think she's a manifesting generator. I think so. I think that's what she is. She's incredible. And what, what she's been one of the greatest teachers in my life, because for most of my life, I tried to be someone else to the rest of the world.
I tried to like only, I tried to categorize myself and cut off certain versions of me and pretend to be something which I'm sure we all have experience with, but then I started to pay attention. It was like, well, I don't like that. It doesn't, it doesn't feel good. It's not the experience I want. It's not producing the results externally that I want.
So what if I try something else and I started to pay attention to who I am when I'm with My sister and what that feels like and how I speak and how I act and like being playful and crazy and goofy and all this stuff. I was just like, all right, fuck it. I'm just going to, I'll, I'm either going to die or this version of me is going to be successful.
And I'm willing to make that bet. Like if I die and it doesn't work out, that's okay. I'm just going to see what happens. So then content creation for me, like working with clients, like, uh, anything, my whole life becomes a practice of harnessing and tapping into whatever that energy is when I'm with my sister.
And then being that version of myself in different domains. And I think. that that's the thing that has worked well in my content is holding myself accountable to being that version of myself and training myself to be that version of myself. I mean,
Maike Gabriela: honestly, I want to have a sister like yours in my life.
Like every time you talk about her, I'm like, Oh my God, she seems amazing. She's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. No, but that's, you know, it's, I don't know. I feel like you guys are so fortunate to have. You know, found each other, found each other again in this lifetime, whatever it is, but it's, it sounds really beautiful.
Um, I saw a content of yours where you were talking about being self aware, knowing that one has potential and really wanting others to see it. And that you, I think it was like, you have this experience to reaching out to people that are where you are now without. Getting feedback or not positive feedback, which I was like, Oh, he didn't wait for the invitation, you know, well, what was the mindset shift that you needed and how did you start it?
How did you start owning your self worth or how did you like change that energetic dynamic? Because I always talk about. You know, the projector invitation kind of like toxic dating from the year 2000, when I was reading cosmopolitans, like, you know, like don't text back and like, whatever, all of this really stupid stuff.
But I feel like projectors are really like that. We have this intrinsic deep need to be seen and recognized. It's so inside our soul that we're always like, Mimi, I know things, I can see things and we get. so bitter that we're able to see everybody so fucking well. And we're like, why does nobody see my potential?
Like I have so much to give it. And he's just like, hi, me, hello, please. You know, so, um, so I'm just interested in, in hearing your journey and how you like flipped. So
Flynn Skidmore: I, I love that. It's so validating to hear that you have such a similar experience. It's, it's really, really cool that there is such a thing called human design that has figured out these different energy, energetic tendencies and patterns.
Like it's, it's really a gift to the world with whoever figured that out. Uh, what's a person's name who designed it?
Maike Gabriela: Honestly, this is where we lose everybody, Flynn. This is a guy, you know, white old male in the 80s in Ibiza, who were like passed out from the world. And then he came home one day and his home is like this kind of like, Three stones made into a little like cottage where he could sleep.
And he opened the door and he heard the voice. And then during eight days, he was tortured with all of this information. So my, my whole thing is like, I don't really care where it came from. It's helped me. It's helped the, you know, hundreds of people that I've, I've supported with human design. And in the end it just had to be him because, you know, who would have taken a woman seriously in the eighties?
You know what I mean? Like it
Flynn Skidmore: doesn't really matter. Different. Well, yeah. Well, I, I appreciate him for moving to Ibiza and having that experience. Um, okay. So when, when I was like. let's say 19 and in college and had a 2. 0 GPA and was going to 30 percent of my classes and smoking weed and doing yoga and like convincing people that levitation was possible, which I actually think that I thought that.
I, I was like, I could be CEO of any company in America. I know I have this thing and I just need the world to recognize this thing I have in me. And once the world recognizes it, then I'll be good to go. And I think I had lived my life hoping that if people could just see the, this thing in me, then I would be safe.
Then I would be success. Really. It's about safety. It's like, it's safety. It, then I'll, then I'll be. Uh, successful, and then I'll be safe, then I'll get to be grounded. It's like guaranteed safety forever if people can just see this thing that I have in me. And I learned that the, it was like, I don't know, the more that I operated with that expectation and hope that that was just what was going to happen, the less people seemed to see me and the more I struggled and the more frustrated I was.
And, um, So it, it started to become clear to me that I'm not valuable just because it's interesting that you said the self worth thing. Um, I have a different, I, I think I have a take on self worth that is a little bit different than the. You do
Maike Gabriela: and I want to hear it. I think it's very interesting. You
Flynn Skidmore: do.
So yeah, I, like I wasn't valuable. Like I, I was not valuable to the world when I was 24. I was kind of like, I was kind and nice. And I was like, I was open. I started this business and that was like this whole dramatic thing. And, um, I was kind, but I was not that valuable to the world. I wasn't good at solving people's problems.
I wasn't that valuable and I wasn't worth the recognition that I wanted because I hadn't yet. committed to being a version of myself who's really good at helping other people. And so I heard all those perspectives, like you're inherently worthy, you're already valuable, like, and I was like, all right, well, first off, that is forcing me to like rely on a story that can't be proven true just because people on Instagram say that that's true.
And then my sense of self and my psychological safety then rests on this concept that everyone has inherent value. But then, but then, and then if I'm not having success, oh, well that means I must not believe that I'm valuable or worthy and I just need to believe I'm valuable and worthy and then I'll be successful.
The more I did that, the more trapped I was. And like, and then everyone around me was telling me, you are so valuable. You're so worthy. Just believe it. I'm like, I, I think I might be, but like, I don't believe that. And if I, and then I don't want to, it just doesn't seem like the solution to force myself to believe that.
What I'm way more interested in, what I, what I, what inspires me more is, yeah, I'm not, I'm not valuable right now, because if I were, then I would be in the relationship I want to be in, people would be paying me the amount of money that I want them to pay me, I'd have the following I want, I'm not providing value, so who do I need to become and what do I need to do in order to be as valuable as I want to be, in order to be perceived as worthy as, as, you know, In the way that I want to be perceived as like, I know I have the potential in me, but I, but the world is showing me that I'm not yet the thing that I think I could be.
So if I'm just hoping that the world recognizes me for my potential, and then all of a sudden says, Oh yes, you're valuable. That's like that delusion of being 19 years old and thinking I could have been CEO of any company in America. When all I was doing was figuring out how to get pizza and like where weed is going to come from that night, like.
It's just like, and so then I was like, all right, well, I got to fall in love with communication. I got to fall in love. I have to be more invested in helping people than I am in my own delusions of grandeur and how special I am. And, and if the world could just see that, if the world could just see how worthy I am, then I, then I'll get what I want.
It's just like, no, I have to create it. I have to make that thing. thing. Um, so that, that's, that's where that potential things comes from. Like, yes, you may have immense potential, but, but hoping that people recognizing your potential, like it's, that is probably not going to be the thing that helps you get people to recognize your potential.
You've got to like help people. That's how I saw it.
Maike Gabriela: Yeah. Um, do you have. You say for you was communication, do you think for everybody it's going to be communication or how, you know, somebody who's struggling and who's feeling like I have so much potential if only the world will see how much, you know, I am able to do and how much value I'm able to provide, what is there something like tangible?
I know you said, you know, tangible is maybe not, but is there anything that you can, um, You know, share where, where somebody can, you know, maybe hold themselves accountable for or like, how can they move out of that space? What are like the first steps
Flynn Skidmore: to take? What, um, so this might be a very projector thing, but what I started.
I kind of think about all this as like having sex with the universe and I think about the universe as like, like, is it okay to speak like in a way that some people might think is vulgar? Yeah. Yeah. Please, please. Of course. Okay. So I think about like, like the universe, like with, with the waiting for the invitation, the way that I experienced the universe as like this, like, like.
Robbing vagina. And is it like, is it actually inviting me? Like, what are the weight? Like, am I, am I treating this in a way that it's bringing rhythm to it? That's bringing hydration to it. That's bringing life and nourishment to this. And then what happens when I, I am invited into this. What happens when this thing needs me so badly that I'm like bio, like, or like, uh, electromagnetically just pulled into this experience.
And so the way that in a more tangible sense, uh, I think about that as like, what are the juicy things? Throbbing problems that are waiting for me to solve them. What are, how is the universe inviting me to solve? Like, what are the problems that keep presenting themselves to me and what seemed to be invitations to come up with like a way of solving these problems and, and how, how, what does it look like to hold myself accountable to actually being good at solving these problems, like helping people solve these problems that, that they're having.
So that's, that's one of the things that I. First, like was that we first was looking at to be able to move in this direction of bringing my potential to life and creating value for other people.
Maike Gabriela: One of the things that I've been like, you know, really fascinated by is just also the way that you share and you express your struggle, you know, cause I really related it to this.
I think I know, I also know you have a different. Uh, point of view in a way of reframing purpose, which I also think is super interesting because I have so many people who are like, what is my purpose? And then they're like, what's my job? I'm like, I cannot give you your, you know, we are so much more than our job description.
So, uh, I think purpose is a really big one, but what I'm interested in is. Why didn't you give up, like you have been through so much and it was this driving force that's continuously, you know, like helping you try to figure out no matter what, like, why did you not give up in those moments of like struggle and doubt and, you know, like.
Flynn Skidmore: Yeah. Such, such, yeah, I've, I've spent a lot of time. I've spent a lot of time where suicide really seemed like it was my best option. Like break 16 through 28. Probably is like, there's a long, there's a long period of time. I really, I really mean it when I say like creating content has saved my life. Like figuring out how to make this stuff useful for people.
I don't know, like, you know, maybe I'll end up at a place where I think committing suicide is the right thing to do, but I just don't see that as, as a thing anymore. Um, yeah, I, I have been to dark places and the thing that has, pushed me is, um, this obsession with, I just, this is, I just know what day I want to live.
That's all I know. I want to know that I want to wake up at five in the morning. I want to do movement practice where I'm like meditating on my atoms being empty. Empty space. And I'm learning to move like so beautifully, like a tiger, Jaguar, like Tai Chi mixed with like the best
Maike Gabriela: content. Flynn is you doing whatever movement stuff you do, but the best is your girlfriend's like commentary on it.
It's like, nobody cares. And I'm like, yes.
Flynn Skidmore: Nobody cares. That's my favorite thing. I love that. You love that. That, that dynamic is my favorite thing in the world. I love like being weird and then like the feminine energy of like, no one gives a fuck. I love that. So, um, yeah, so like that in the morning and then I want to write.
And then I, um, I want to be creative and I want to help people for like two hours a day. And then I want to play tennis for two and a half hours and be in the sun. And I want to walk around and like be this rhythmic, happy, delightful energy that just smiles at people and, and like invites people's inner worlds to come forth.
Like that, I only know that I want that day. And not, I would rather die than not have that day. True, like truly I would rather die. And the reason, like when I've been suicidal before is when it seemed like it wouldn't be likely that I'd figure out how to put myself in a position where I could live my life like that.
And so, The drive, the fight, because yeah, there, there have been, there have been wild things that have happened over the last 15 years, like a lot of painful, challenging family stuff. Um, and you know, I've paid a price actually for my drive. I've lost a lot of friendships. I've, I've discarded people. I've ignored a lot of relationships that matter to me because I'm so frustrated.
fixated on putting myself in a position where I can have these days. And the closer that I get to this place where it's like, Oh yeah, you know what? You're good, Flynn. Like you made it, you did this thing. You, you broke through this, you made it happen. I can feel myself opening up. I'm like reaching out to people and apologizing for ignoring them.
Um, I can feel myself creating space for like truly more of what I want. Um, but I, I, um, like I, I grew up, um, probably like middle class is the description in a lower middle class neighborhood. And, um, it was clear to me early on that I would be the person who's going to be taking care of my family for the long run.
My dad was diagnosed with a chronic illness when I was 18, which is. That, in and of itself, is a fascinating thing. That is, in many ways, what has informed my understanding of mind body connection and trauma, and, like, sometimes an unconscious need to be wounded. Um, you know, it's hard to talk with him about that.
That is, like, offensive. So I don't want to, like, whatever. Um, I love him so much. But also, like, so I, it just, I just, I just knew that I would be the one who's having to take care of everyone forever. And I wanted to be able to do that with comfort and ease. And I've just kind of like, I've been a missile for the last however long, like almost 15 years.
Um, every single day focused, committed. every single day. What energy do I need to show up with in order to create content in a way where I get to be this like joyful, loving version of myself, where I can be this attractor for energy and information. So anything that is darker in the shadows about someone else, like they know that that can come to the surface of their awareness because they know I'm going to meet it with love.
Like, what is it? take for me to be that person because I know that being that person every single day is going to be the thing that puts me in a position of success. Actually, that's at least the bet I was making. So I am driven by an intensity that I don't see around me. I don't see a lot of people having the same intensity and focus and commitment that I have.
And I'm so grateful and glad to have it because it, um, it's, it's, it's created demons and it's created things to feel guilty about and ashamed of. And it's also created immense beauty. Um, and now I get, now I'm in a position where I can sort of like clean up and apologize for and rectify the hurt that it's created.
Maike Gabriela: This is so, so interesting because I relate to it. In such a deep way. And I think that nobody speaks about it in a way that helps other people understand it. And because you're so gifted at explaining and reframing things, I'm really interested to hear. Your perspective and your own experience, because what I'm noticing is I am achieving the goals that I've had.
It's like every time there's like something big coming, like, I don't know, like at this point, I'm like, is this conditioning? Do I just believe this? Cause everybody's telling me this, or is this real? Like the amount of shit that's happening before there's like an expansion, whatever, like even something stupid I had, whatever, like in the first year, maybe like.
7k followers or something like that. My posts had like 300 likes and then I was working with somebody who I thought was my friend, but ended up scamming me. And in the process of the scamming where I had to deal with lawyers, which is the biggest thing that scares me in the world because I will defend my friends even if they're wrong till death.
But I'm so scared of defending myself cause I had this very authoritarian, scary, all overpowering father where defending myself was kind of like punishment, you know, would be met with ruthless, cruel, everything. So me defending myself is like, to me, the scariest shit ever. And so I was in this like, in the trenches with the lawyer, like I was, I was just out of myself, like the trauma, like I can't explain it.
And in this phase of like dealing with all of that, suddenly, like This is really stupid, but certainly my posts started getting engagement. I gained like 000 in a month, you know, like suddenly my posts were having like 30, 000 likes. Like now this is like trickled down a bit, you know, the algorithm, but you know, and, and this is just, and then it was like, Oh no, the algorithm is going to take it away.
The algorithm has got, you know, every like expansion, every success. comes with responsibility, comes with fear, come, you know, it's such a, it's insane. And I'm like, is it just me? Or even like, whatever I had, like the most successful month. September, October, something like that. The weeks leading up to like the launch that I did, like everything was on fire.
Literally like my pan caught fire, but like it was insane. I left the car keys in the car. I was, you know, having discussions with everybody, which I never do. So I just want to know, like, what is your, because I think it's so interesting, you know, people are like, you have to sacrifice, you have to work hard.
Like, I've been hearing my father saying that my whole life, but to me, that was just bringing me into a burnout. It was like, I had an autoimmune disease because, you know, I was, uh, using substances to like, continue to drive. Energy to do the things I thought I had to do, but it was so far away from who I am, from what I meant to be doing, from how I can help people, right?
So this, you have to sacrifice and everything is so hard and getting to success is so hard. Yes, but not in the way I've been taught it is. Does that make sense
Flynn Skidmore: to you? Yeah, it does. It does make sense. Like, you, um, you have your other people have certain programs for what sacrifice means and what their programs are for what sacrifice means may serve them, though probably not.
They're probably unconsciously addicted to whatever that means for them. Um, it may not mean the same thing for you and your version of sacrifice. Is that, is that for you? Where you're getting at.
Maike Gabriela: Well, I'm just interested to know if, like, if, if there is this, like, just, you know, we were talking about power in the beginning and how like that kind of like old style of power comes with this very strong shadow.
But now when you're reflecting on your own path of success, you've also said that there were behaviors and things that you did that you sacrificed in order to gain the success that you have now. Right. Well, I'm just interested in, in trying to share with other people who want to achieve greatness for themselves.
There is this responsibility, there is this sovereignty and there's this, you know, this focus. And I see it. I have, uh, the transformational human design certification, where I train people to become human design leaders. And I can see so clearly. Those that are going to be successful because they just do what needs to be done.
And then I have a bunch of people that are, you know, the sweetest souls and absolutely again, no judgment. Cause I understand. And I sure have been in some version of that, but it's like, Oh, I have emotional authority. I can't work today. Oh, you know, this, this happened now I can't do that. And it's like, they're constantly, and it's what you said also this addiction, right?
Addiction to pain, addiction to suffering. Um, and I'm just trying to, I'm trying to figure out. You know, for myself, how I can deal, if it's just something that I need to build resistance, you know, that the more success I gain, I really feel the amount of, you know, I don't want to say suffering, but the amount of pain and the amount of pressure we're able to sustain is correlated to the amount of success somebody can have, because if it would be so, but maybe I'm wrong and I'm interested to hear your opinion, you know, because I see you playing tennis 24 hours a day and then maybe work in 30 minutes.
No, no, of course not. But you know what I mean? Like Flynn is just swirling water around and speaking beautiful words into the water. And then he's like dipping in the ocean and, you know, like playing tennis. And I'm like, okay, where is, you know, where's the resistance? Is it, is there, is there, or maybe your subconscious is like, no, everything's free flowing and everything just.
You know, I don't know. Tell me, Flynn.
Flynn Skidmore: We want to know. Okay. I love this. So, okay. The reason, wow. So what, what I, what I think that your question is about is about getting clear on what you actually want and whether or not you are getting what you want. In every single moment, or if you are operating through the lens of parts of you who have been conditioned to believe that what you want is conditional.
Okay. Okay. So let's say for instance, uh, like your, your pursuit of success you're speaking about, right? Let's, let's, let's, let's break that down. If you, if you feel good to do that. Yeah. Yes. What does success look like for you? The table
Maike Gabriela: has turned.
Flynn Skidmore: If you're okay with it. I don't want to. Yeah.
Maike Gabriela: Yeah. Yeah.
Let's do it. Let's break it. Break me down.
Flynn Skidmore: What, what do you, let's, let's, let's keep it like simple ish. Like what's one of your, uh, what's one of your 2024? Okay. Nice. And, and when we say consistent, do we mean 12 months out of the year, a hundred K? Yeah. Okay. Perfect. So you just want to be as specific as possible.
All right. So let's say you, you've done that. You got 12 months of a hundred K in 2024. What does that do for you?
Maike Gabriela: It helps me grow, communicate, reach out to more people. What else? Right. I don't know. Um, more freedom, more, I, can I delegate more? I don't know. I feel like I'm pretty good at delegating, but, um, more time with my daughter.
I don't know. But it's especially, it's like, for me, it's about growing and reaching more people and having more community and. Yeah. This expansive idea, you
Flynn Skidmore: know, more growing, growing. And I, um, I wonder, and this is, this is just a little bit of a challenge. I wonder if that's the answer that you think is the most acceptable answer that that justifies wanting to make that amount of money.
If it's about other people. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
Maike Gabriela: This is interesting because I always say that. Um, And this is the question that I've been actually asking. I'm like, don't give me though. Like when I ask, why are you putting yourself through this? It's not about, Oh, I want to help people and I want to make the world better.
So the re and the reason
Flynn Skidmore: why, well, I wouldn't even say I, I think that there's a tweak that we can make because I don't want you to have to defend anything. I don't want you to have to identify the reason. I'm just curious about what you get if you're making a hundred thousand dollars a month.
Maike Gabriela: Uh, I don't know.
It just feels, it just feels
Flynn Skidmore: good. There's something about it that feels good. More time with your daughter, more impact. Like there's different things that it does for you. All right. So let's What it does for you. Can we keep going with you? So we can, we can absolutely do it with me. But, but we can, um, so we can illuminate the framework.
Yes. Um, okay. So pick one of those things. Time with your daughter. Helping more people.
Maike Gabriela: That's a, that's a tough. It's just,
Flynn Skidmore: it's, it's not like one has to be the priority. It's just whichever one you want to unpack more people. So if you get to help more people, what does that do for you?
Maike Gabriela: I feel like I am worthy.
Flynn Skidmore: Interesting. So tell me about
Maike Gabriela: that. I feel that. It makes sense for me to be alive if I can impact positively in the lives of others.
Flynn Skidmore: Okay. So that's a pretty important part that we're finding here. A part who's, you remember conditions, right? These are conditions. Okay. So. To be worthy of living, I have to, um, help a million people and there's something that I learned along the way somewhere that told me that to be worthy of living, I have to help.
I have to be the person who's able to help people at scale, like a lot of people. Right. Well, let's just, let's not, let's not make that part defend itself. Let's learn about what it actually wants. So let's say this part of you, it's guaranteed. Okay. You're helping a million people, um, which lets you know that you're worthy of living.
What does that do for you? What happens then? I'm relieved. Relief first. Okay. So give yourself a moment to experience that relief. Like let your body be relieved. Okay. Now, when you have the relief, cause the relief is usually like there's a grip and then the moment the grip releases, you know, that's the experience of relief, but then there's expansion and then you get to experience something else.
So once the relief happens. What does that create space for? What, what happens in you? Love. And it, it's, it's gotta come from you. So there was a little bit of a question mark at the end of that. So see what it's like, see what happens in your body when you, when you get that relief. I don't know,
Maike Gabriela: freedom. I don't know.
I don't know.
Flynn Skidmore: It's something, it's something to, we don't have to go too deep in it, but it's something to, to consider because what you want is a feeling in your body and any, and any word we say in any movement we make at the, me putting on this shirt, me wanting to make a certain amount of money, me wanting to do this, this, this, this is every single thing is motivated.
By hoping that that thing will give me access to a feeling in my body. Most people have no idea what feeling they want. They think they know the words that they want to be able to call myself worthy, but that's not a feeling. That's not a feeling. I'm hoping that if I can interpret myself as worthy, then I get relief and then I get love or relaxation, right?
We, when we learn about the actual feeling we want in our body as a result of making 100, 000 a month and helping more people, then we understand what we actually want. And then. What we get to do is say, okay, got it. What I want is delight, lightness, joy, pleasure, fun, sit like silliness, sassiness. Like I want these feeling these experiences in my body.
Now the process of making a hundred thousand dollars is not about a hundred thousand dollars. It's just something to do as a meditation on the internal experiences I want. It's just an opportunity for me to. Amplify, pump, whoop, whoop, rhythmically pumping and amplifying these energies out into the world and giving them to people.
That's what 100, 000 is. It's just something it's giving yourself something to do, to practice being the energy you want as a, as a result of making a hundred.
Maike Gabriela: Reverse engineering. So the more lightness, love, fun, whatever I have, the, the easier. Accessor will be to, to make the
Flynn Skidmore: hundred K potentially, but it's not even about the easier access.
Yes. That's one of the concepts. That's one of the effects of it. But the, but the, the truth of it is, is that you already have what you want. If you want like joy, right? You already have joy. Now, now the thing is now you identify what you actually want. Now the question is, are you going to hold yourself accountable?
to setting yourself up in your mind, your environment, your relationships, your body, everything in every email you write. Is it all going to be a practice of what you actually want, who you actually want to be? Now, the most beautiful version of this to me, the part that I think I'm able to really help people with is the relationship with the parts of you who believe that what you want.
is conditional. I am, I need to be angry and ashamed and afraid, and I'm only going to be able to get what I want if I'm deemed worthy and a good person. Well, that part is operating, let's say, let's say it's shame that that part's operating with. The task is not to bypass that part of you because that part really believes that.
It truly believes that the way to access well being is to like be perceived as worthy or good enough, whatever. The question is your relationship with that part of you. If that part's operating with an energy of shame, what does it look like for you as a practice of getting what you want, of being the energy of warmth or tenderness or joy or delight, and making friends with that part who's primarily operating with shame, not forcing it to change, just developing a relationship with it.
And when you do that, you all of a sudden consume that part in the most like recycling kind of way, it becomes part of you. It feels like it belongs to you. It can still be sad and it's sad. And it's part of this. team that's on a mission to amplify joy and delight and well being and life to the world.
And that's when everything changes. That's when the game changes is understanding what you actually want, making your goals a pursuit of what you actually want with the understanding that what your goals are actually about. It's just an opportunity for you to meet the unconscious parts of you who don't think that you can have what you want right now because of how they've been conditioned or wounded.
So my
Maike Gabriela: question is this whole construct of everything being super intense before there's like something great happening in my life is
Flynn Skidmore: conditioned. So there's a, there's something I've been learning about recently from someone named Gay Hendricks and he calls it the upper limit. Yeah, he's incredible.
He's amazing. Actually I did, um, I did a consultation with him yesterday. Like he's great. He's, he's great. Like he, he, uh, he has. done some amazing things truly. And yeah, one of those, one of his contributions, so good, right? One of his contributions is, uh, the upper limit problem. Have you heard of that before?
Okay. So a great example of it would be, um, a great example is Will Smith. Getting up on stage and smacking Chris Rock in the face. Like, I actually don't know about what all that much about what's happening in Will Smith's life before. But let's say Will Smith is ascending into acting greatness. And let's say he and Jada are like rekindling their relationship and getting close to each other again.
Will Smith is reaching his upper limit. of, of what's currently safe to his unconscious. So the question is, who do we become when we near or surpass the threshold of our upper limit? Who do we become when we're nearing territory that's not yet familiar and safe? Do we become a person who's terrified of that, who then gets up on stage and smacks Chris Rock in the face or, or who gets in a car accident or who makes some like crazy self sabotaging fuck up in order to bring us back to our baseline?
That's what most of us do is, um, And that's why I think people say, like, there's chaos before the storm. I think that's a bullshit story. Like, it doesn't have to be like that. It certainly can be, but that's one of the options available. The, the, the, what I think the practice for all of us is, is who do we become when we near our.
Threshold. And is that actually who we want to be? Or is there a version of that where we can still practice being the version of ourselves, even as we near unfamiliar, unknown territory? Can I ask how
Maike Gabriela: that looks like for you personally?
Flynn Skidmore: Yeah. I mean, there are some areas where I do that really, really well in my life and areas where I don't do that.
Well, uh, and that's, I think the interesting thing about being a human is like that we have these different domains and for some reason in one domain, it's safe for me to be exactly who I want to be and have the experience I want in a different domain. I clam up and shrink away and hide from the world.
And like what I see it as, it's just a practice of learning about which version of myself I like better. It's not right or wrong or good or bad. It's just my preference. And then getting excited about the domains where I don't. I'm not that version of myself, so I can practice being that version of myself there.
So the best version of it for me is learning how to rest and recover. So for instance, if I'm playing tennis and I have a day where I play. out of my mind better than I've ever played before, right? There are two, let's, let's say there are two options. One, I can create an expectation for myself to play like that forever.
And if I ever, if I don't play like that, then I'm going, then I like shame myself. I get disappointed, right? That's one option. Option B is I'm like, Whoa, I've just, I've just extended my threshold. I've just pushed my limitations. Now I'm going to sink back and, and I'll probably play like 50 percent as well as that the next time.
But I like that. That's okay. I trust that it's the loving, peaceful, joyful, delightful repetitions that are going to help me put, get in a position where like I can. You know what I'm saying? So option a, I get back out and I play tennis next time with the expectation of continuing at that level. I hit one shot poorly and then all of a sudden I self destruct and I crash and I burn the other one.
I'm like, yes, beautiful. This feels so good. Like I'm appreciating myself and all the work that I've put into putting myself in a place where I have this opportunity just to be outside and play and trust that like I'm going to increase my threshold when I just do the things that I do in order to help me play tennis.
Well, like have fun, uh, focus on my footwork, rest and recover, prioritize those things, sleep nine hours. Like it's just gonna happen if I do the things well. So that, and, and then, and then there, those are two very different versions of me. One is neurotic and frantic and chaotic and blaming and judging and The other one is creative and loving and curious and tender and playful, and a really fucking good athlete.
Playful, like the other one is not. And the question is, is which version of myself do I wanna practice being here?
Maike Gabriela: Thank you so much for your insight and your input. Um, for those projectors who are like, Flynn is living my absolute dream life, I also wanna be working like three, four hours a day. I know that that's aligned.
Um. What did your beginnings look like? Because obviously we don't start. And we're like, Oh, we're just delegating everything. I'm just working, you know, three hours a day. What can you tell somebody who's starting out? Who is like, I'm a projector. I don't have consistent energy. I have to wait for the invitations.
I'm never going to achieve anything in life. How can you help somebody? Start building those first steps for them to be able to create that life that seems so worthy living.
Flynn Skidmore: Um, first disclaimer, I have not mastered the projector lifestyle. I like I work from generally, I'm the time where I'm not doing something that might be considered work is like the last three hours of the day.
So from about 5 to 5 30 in the morning, everything I do, I consider work. Um, but my work is different. then maybe other people's work because my work is doing crazy movements that you see me doing and meditating on the nothingness of my atoms. But I see that as work because I'm doing it in part with the intention of using that to help other people.
So it's always like this awareness of how is like, Oh, this is so fun. I'm loving this now. Now also, how do I make this useful for others? So that's like, And, and then also like in terms of actual more conventional work, like I'm working more than three or four hours a day for sure. And I haven't figured out like the thing, what seems to be the calling for me is becoming a better leader and not expecting people to see the things that I see and just know how to do them or, uh, be motivated to do them.
I operate with a lot of assumptions about and expectations about other people seeing the same thing that I see and I don't have to ask them to do it. And what I'm learning is like, I have people pleasing tendencies and I tend to avoid asking people to do things for me. And I'm learning that that's safe.
that actually magic happens when I do that. Um, but that's still very new for me up until this point in my business. It's been dream life, but it's also been dream life simultaneously, or at least my dream life. It's been dream life paired with like. immense effort also. Immense, immense, immense effort. So just a disclaimer.
So no one has the things that I figured it out.
Maike Gabriela: No, I think, I think this is such valuable information because I feel the same. Like if you would ask anybody around me, I am working. All the time, every day, all like, there is not a second where I don't feel like I'm working, but I don't feel like it's work in the way maybe most people conceive that it's work, right?
If you tell somebody no, because you know, I'm meditating on the nothingness of my atoms, what I think is like, so all, you know, I'm like, yes. Um, that is the thing I think when you are so focused on what you're able to give and how you're able to contribute, there's something that just motivates me at least on a deeper level, you know?
And, and so it's not this thing where I'm like, Doing this job that feels like nobody sees me where I'm not recognized, where, you know, what I'm doing doesn't have any intention, doesn't have any motivation where I'm like, you know, I don't want to get up in the morning because I don't like the people I'm, you know, having to spend that day in that horrible lit office.
Like that is going to make me sick. And I have so many clients who are sick because they are just so disconnected from the true feeling that they want to have. And so. You know, there's this big myth of projector should be working three hours a day. I don't know, projector. It's so interesting because before you were saying safety, but then it was success, success, safety, right?
Um, but success is the signature of a projector. So when projectors feel successful. That's when they know that they are aligned, that they are like on their energetic authenticity path or whatever, through the human design lens. Right. So it is really important for us to be successful. And it's very interesting.
Cause I talked to, you know, other energy types and they're like, no, I do this thing for hobby and I would never want to. You know, make a business out of it. And I'm like, it makes zero sense to me to put this amount into something and not get, you know, you like, and it was, it's so, it's so funny because we all have this different way of operating, but you know, we have this difference.
I call them energetic peaks. So the generator, manifesting generator, maybe you can see this with your girlfriend. It's like, um, you know, when they're creating, when they're doing, when they're in it, that's their energetic peak, you know, but for projectors, it's really that recognition. It's really what we get from the effort that we're putting into something.
So it's a completely different way of operating. And so doing things just for. Of course we do things for the pleasure of things, but there has to be, I don't know.
Flynn Skidmore: I think you get it. I do. I do get it. There's like the, the reward is the recognition and that is like, that, that is contradictory to the thing that we're all told is what, what we're supposed to experience and how it's supposed to be.
But if, if I'm truthful, um, if I'm truthful with myself, like. The reward is the recognition that is the energy. I love it. Describe that way. That is the energetic peak of it. And the recognition makes the work worth it.
Maike Gabriela: Yes. Yes. Flynn. Last question. This is called the Soft Power podcast. What do you consider soft
Flynn Skidmore: power?
Okay. Okay. I love this. All right. When this is, this is what the universe seems to be in the habit of. Okay. Let's say you have, let's say you have one system. Um, Let's say, let's say it's a heartbeat. Let's say you have two hearts. Okay. And they're somehow just like isolated sitting in, I don't know, you're just, they're just seeing these two different hearts beat.
One heart is rhythmic and coherent. So it's, it's like a good drummer. It's playing on beat. Okay, that heart communicates very efficiently and effectively with the brain, with the organs, it delivers blood super efficiently and effectively. That body with that heart and that mind is a beautiful body with a rhythmic coherent heart.
And let's say that's right next to it, there's a heart that's incoherent and it doesn't know the beat. It doesn't know how to be rhythmic. It's not pumping coherently. It's a little bit disorganized and chaotic. Okay. Now the way that most people treat other people is by trying to force the non rhythmic heart to be rhythmic.
Okay. They like try and fix it. They tell it what to do. They give it advice. The truth is, is when we look at that dynamic in the universe and it doesn't just apply to hearts, it applies to everything, everything is pumping and pulsing. Um, when you put the non coherent heart in the presence of the coherent heart, they sync up and create coherence together.
The coherence of the organized rhythmic heart teaches the non rhythmic heart how to be rhythmic. It's fucking amazing. It's amazing. And all you have to do in order to inspire other people in order to like invite them to be alive and to be nourished is just be a rhythmically pumping heart and just be in the presence of people understanding that your energy.
Is the thing that's the most influential thing. And if you want to give life to people, the best thing that you can do is make sure that you're a rhythmic, coherent, pumping heart. So that to me is what soft power is.
Maike Gabriela: This is the most beautiful description that we've had on soft power. And I think it's so fascinating because in human design, we have this idea of conditioning.
And so projectors, reflectors, manifestors. We have what we call an open sacral center and the sacral center stands for desire, for joy, uh, creativity. And so it also is this motor that's constantly pumping, that's constantly putting out energy. And so, generators, manifesting generators, have that sacral center defined.
They have a very innate, a strong sense of when they need to nap, how much they need to sleep. Like, they know how much energy they have available. It's a completely different organism. And so, Oftentimes there's this talk about like, oh, you know, 70 percent of the population generator manifesting generator are constantly conditioning projectors to hustle and to work harder and projectors never know when to stop and like projectors should never sleep in the same bag with generators and manifesting generators because they're getting like conditioned, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
What I've noticed is that when I am with an aligned, you know, well rested, just aligned generator, manifesting generator, whatever, that has a defined psychosenter and they know, you know, how much they need to rest and when they're waking up and when they're napping next to them, because I've been super frantic most of my life living very on the line.
When I'm close to them, I can finally sleep. I nap, like my whole nervous system rests thanks to their conditioning that is teaching my, you know, like unaligned, crazy SQL to be like, okay, you can calm the fuck down. Like, you know, you've got something to rely on. So
Flynn Skidmore: that's, that's exactly what it is. That's it.
It's like, you're the rhythm of your body, the rhythm of your soul. Helps other souls find rhythm to the reason that the chaos exists is because on some level, there's a perception of a threat right here, right now. And you need to be anxious to figure out how to escape that threat. And then all of a sudden, someone, this pull, this beating heart comes into your environment.
That's rhythmic and coherent. All of a sudden you are living in a different universe, one where there is no threat in the environment. There's safety and coherence and life right here, right now. And then that just teaches your body how to organize around that and then to be that thing. Flynn,
Maike Gabriela: thank you so much for your incredible insight.
I am. Very inspired to see how I'll figure out all of the missing pieces. And thank you
Flynn Skidmore: so much for your time. Thank you so much. It was, you asked amazing questions, which I'm sure as you know, is incredibly energizing for me. And it was so fun to speak with you about this stuff. Thank you. Yes.
Maike Gabriela: Thank you.
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