Summer Recap

Is it possible to find humor amidst pain? Join us as we kick off Season Two of "The Gospel According to Jeremy" with an exciting catch-up session that breaks the silence and finally lets Drew and Jennifer chat freely on-air. We reminisce about our journey, from spirited debates over the podcast's title to the evolution of our conversations. Expect laughter and spontaneous discussions, including quirky topics like the origins of chia seeds and their surprising uses. This episode sets a refreshing tone for the season ahead with a perfect blend of humor and heartfelt reflections.

What role do enneagram types play in our emotional lives? We delve into the complexities of relationships and the pain that often underpins addiction. Our candid conversation covers the impact of personality types on communication, struggles with intimacy, and the deep-seated grief that surfaces from unfulfilled dreams and premature responsibilities. The episode confronts the difficult process of mourning, especially after losing a close friend to an overdose, offering a compassionate look into the human experience of pain and healing.

As the episode unfolds, we navigate from lighthearted summer recaps to intense political discussions, and even explore conspiracy theories about major political events. Special guests Aaron Benward, Robert Beeson, John Mays, and Scott Williamson join us for a reunion filled with laughter and touching moments. We conclude with deep reflections on faith, ministry, and vocational paths, sharing powerful insights from personal spiritual journeys and career transitions. Don't miss this rich tapestry of conversations that promise to engage, entertain, and resonate with our listeners.

Chapters

• 0:18 Season Two Catch-Up With Friends
• 11:37 Exploring Pain, Loss, and Sadness
• 24:16 Summer Recap and Random Conversations
• 30:04 Intense Political Discussion Without Resolution
• 37:06 Conspiracy Theories and Political Discourse
• 45:33 Surprise Party and Summer Shenanigans
• 57:29 Reflections on Past Faith and Ministry
• 1:02:55 Vocational Paths and Conversational Banter

Transcript

Speaker 2: 0:18

are we rolling?

Speaker 1: 0:19

we're in it got everybody. I'm nervous, nervous. Welcome back.

Speaker 2: 0:25

Welcome back everybody.

Speaker 1: 0:27

He to the gospel, According to Jeremy. What happened?

Speaker 2: 0:30

Season two so nice, I can actually talk to you now.

Speaker 1: 0:34

I made. I made Drew and Jennifer be very quiet.

Speaker 3: 0:38

There's so much we want to catch up on.

Speaker 2: 0:39

We set up these cameras without a word.

Speaker 1: 0:41

If you are if you're tuning in for the first time for season two, you've got 33 episodes to go back and listen to to get caught up. But I will just let you know. We probably could sum it up in about five minutes.

Speaker 3: 0:53

We probably could.

Speaker 1: 0:54

All of it, jennifer and Drew don't? They have never spoken outside of the podcast. They've never spoken to each other, not on a microphone.

Speaker 2: 1:02

Well, I mean, that's a little harsh.

Speaker 1: 1:05

Well, when he comes in, you say hi, we say hi.

Speaker 3: 1:07

The intro's like, yeah, when we enter the house, but even today we weren't really. We were banned from talking.

Speaker 2: 1:13

Yeah, I was like so.

Speaker 3: 1:15

I want to catch up on so many things.

Speaker 2: 1:16

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:17

I knew you would want us to wait until we hit record.

Speaker 1: 1:18

Well, yeah, and just Just keep our friendship public I was trying to.

Speaker 1: 1:22

You know, I was doing my podcast prep last night as we were going to bed and I thought, you know we will. At season two we will have some new listeners. So I'll just give a little background. It'll take a minute. Drew and I met. This is quite a while ago now and, as a favor to me, drew said, hey, why don't you do? You know, I think you have really good content, why don't you do about eight podcasts and I'll produce them for you? And so we started, you know, probably a year ago, with those eight episodes, and we haven't stopped. But we did take the summer off. It's called the Gospel, according to Jeremy, and that's the name of it and we visited all those arguments in season one episodes two, three, four.

Speaker 2: 2:06

What arguments, oh, about what? The name?

Speaker 3: 2:07

People would be mad about it. You feel pretty locked in Sacrilege. I don't care about it now.

Speaker 1: 2:11

Yeah, I'm okay with it. This is the good news.

Speaker 2: 2:14

according to me, whoever that was is gone. Huh, those people are probably gone by now.

Speaker 1: 2:17

Yeah, I think they're there. I I think we got through those folks in a bit of a. I think Jennifer got through them in a hurry. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 2:25

I miss them a little bit. I love the little bit of the. You like to argue a little bit.

Speaker 3: 2:29

I mean, yeah, I feel like I didn't have much to lose.

Speaker 1: 2:32

Well, once we got into some of the stuff that you know people hold onto real tight, they realized this wasn't the podcast for them. I think, them, I think. And then if there's anybody who doesn't like, uh, conservative politics, I think you have I've run them, I think you've run them off.

Speaker 3: 2:49

That's what I've been wanting to talk to you about oh oh man, is that what we're doing today?

Speaker 1: 2:54

we don't have to.

Speaker 3: 2:55

It's your gospel there's so much this whole list of things, just tear it up, talk about the important things, then I don't know how many times I've seen something on tv and I've thought to myself man, I wonder what Jennifer's thinking about this right now.

Speaker 2: 3:09

Oh my gosh. Well, think about all that has happened over the summer. It has been flip insane.

Speaker 1: 3:14

Before we think about that, smile real quick.

Speaker 2: 3:17

Go ahead.

Speaker 1: 3:18

No, you're actually good.

Speaker 3: 3:19

I think I saw one chia seed on that left flank.

Speaker 2: 3:23

Yeah, I did, I feel it, I feel it Passenger side left. That's his driver's side.

Speaker 1: 3:29

Or driver's side left.

Speaker 2: 3:30

yeah, here I'll get my phone to look. You guys talk amongst yourselves. Stage left.

Speaker 1: 3:34

No, I think that might just be a Is it just a hole. You might just need some dental work there. It's a cavity. I can see it's either a cavity or that one weird tooth?

Speaker 2: 3:43

No, I felt it's gone.

Speaker 1: 3:44

I got it. I thought I saw it.

Speaker 2: 3:45

Did I get it yeah?

Speaker 1: 3:46

What is it so you're eating chia seeds.

Speaker 3: 3:48

I don't know why Not straight chia seeds though.

Speaker 2: 3:51

No, in my yogurt.

Speaker 3: 3:52

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 3:53

What is a chia seed?

Speaker 2: 3:54

I don't know Chia pet, chia pet poop. Chia is the pet. Yeah, which they're. I was trying to. I wonder, if I were to take chia seeds and rub it on one of those little terracotta animals, if it would grow I don't think it's how it works well, that isn't that how they do it.

Speaker 1: 4:13

They have it in I don't think they rub it on there well, it's in like a you grow it no, but if you have, you ever had a chia pet?

Speaker 1: 4:21

no, but I looked. I tried to get you one for christmas. I was either going to give you a gilmore girls one or a kennedy one, but I couldn't find one. Like, if you try, type in on amazon chia, it gives you all these options, like chia but those are pretty, pretty, pretty like out there are you doing some work? You gotta get some answers, some emails. Are you on a zoom? You got another zoom. You need to, you need to get done. What are you doing?

Speaker 3: 4:49

I was looking up chia seeds. What's the chia seed? I got real curious about it, thanks, yeah they're a tiny black or white seed from the plant salvia hispanica. They're believed to be native to central america. Uh, aztec and mayan civilizations use the seeds in their diets. Civilizations.

Speaker 1: 5:06

Civilizations, sorry, Civilizations. Exclamation point.

Speaker 3: 5:13

Explanation point. Oh yeah, so that's really not that helpful.

Speaker 2: 5:16

That's all I know is I like a crunch in my yogurt, so it's fun for me.

Speaker 3: 5:20

And granola doesn't do it for you.

Speaker 2: 5:22

Well, I don't eat granola.

Speaker 3: 5:23

Okay.

Speaker 2: 5:25

You know it's usually full of stuff Like if granola was just healthy. It's really not that healthy granola is yeah, all right. Well, let's do this.

Speaker 1: 5:34

I mean it's been.

Speaker 2: 5:36

Thanks for looking that up. Yeah, you're welcome. It's been two months since we've seen each other and man.

Speaker 1: 5:40

so much happens in two months.

Speaker 2: 5:41

Okay, first of all, you're rocking a mullet.

Speaker 3: 5:44

You like it, I like it.

Speaker 2: 5:45

I do like it. I like the shaved situation. It's cool and you're tan.

Speaker 3: 5:50

Yeah yeah, been outside a lot this summer Catching up, trying to catch up to Jeremy. He's always tan.

Speaker 2: 5:55

Yeah, you're tan too, but he matches his car seats, he blends right.

Speaker 3: 6:05

No one's driving it, he just blends in. I got rid of my jeep. I saw the truck out there. That is what's wrong with you. Can I be honest with you?

Speaker 2: 6:14

you can be honest with us I don't miss it.

Speaker 3: 6:17

Really, I don't miss it at all. I'm a truck guy. I needed a jeep. I need to experience a jeep to realize that I'm a truck guy well, maybe you should get the Gladiator, the Jeep truck? Yeah, maybe the Jeep. The truck just sits up higher. It's bigger, it's a big guy. I felt pretty small in there Is this the AT?

Speaker 1: 6:33

What is this the AT4 that you're driving? What?

Speaker 2: 6:36

is it I?

Speaker 1: 6:36

actually got a Nissan Titan. Nissan Titan Okay.

Speaker 2: 6:39

I like it.

Speaker 3: 6:40

I love it. Good, I love it. Never been a Nissan guy, but long story, that's not important. Jamie's in a minivan, no, she got a Nissan Pathfinder. Oh, right on Nice. Basically the story. The long story short is we have a friend that has a code that works at Nissan that helps us. So we became Nissan people Cause.

Speaker 2: 6:57

now you're like a Nissan family.

Speaker 3: 6:58

We're full on. Emory drives a Murano. Is that what the fight was about today? Hold on, hold on. No, it wasn't about the cars.

Speaker 1: 7:09

He's got to remember what was it about.

Speaker 3: 7:10

I just knew that I was winning or was going to win, and then I had to go to get here and I was bummed.

Speaker 2: 7:14

Dang it.

Speaker 3: 7:14

I know.

Speaker 2: 7:15

That doesn't happen often probably.

Speaker 3: 7:17

No, I really thought I had it cornered.

Speaker 2: 7:29

Well, you'll have to bring that one back up.

Speaker 1: 7:30

There's no winning, though. That's not even a win, is a loss, right? Well, you mean why I know that I won. Well, because it still doesn't feel like it's still a fight. Yeah, I've known before. When we've been fighting, I've known man. I'm right here I have, I totally have this and then she's got a weapon against that.

Speaker 2: 7:40

I I don't know, weapon formed against me, that is the truth no weapon formed against her.

Speaker 3: 7:48

That's probably more frustrating because I will say I've got a lot of like flaws, some even fatal ones. But I own up to stuff pretty quick, like I'm pretty oh, you know what, you're right, I'm sorry about that, I was wrong. What's more frustrating is when you know you're right on this one and you just got to eat it. Yeah, yeah, I'm like no, I'm actually. I'm in the right when you know you're right on this one and you just got to eat it. Yeah, yeah, I'm like. No, I'm actually in.

Speaker 2: 8:08

I'm in the right, yeah. So if you're in the right just for the sake of peace, you'll be like eh. No no, I thought that's what you're saying.

Speaker 3: 8:15

No, but I mean, eventually it's got to go away.

Speaker 2: 8:17

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 8:18

Oh, right, right, right.

Speaker 2: 8:19

Yeah, have some that are just still hanging out there we do I mean, we just never really settled it well, I think we're right and it's like we've had a couple of agree to disagree type thing. We're gonna have to because we're not.

Speaker 1: 8:31

Neither of us are gonna budge we've had a couple in the past I don't know six months where we one of us did. We'll just go, are you good? And she'll go. I'm I'm fine and I'll go. I'm good and we'll just just let it go.

Speaker 2: 8:42

We're too old.

Speaker 1: 8:42

Although a couple of weeks ago I got fussy at night because of something she said.

Speaker 2: 8:47

Yes, you did.

Speaker 1: 8:48

And I don't even know if.

Speaker 2: 8:49

I was right or she was right. I know who was right.

Speaker 1: 8:53

Anyways. So I didn't snap or anything. I just was probably a little quiet and grumpy before bed.

Speaker 2: 9:01

A little. And so the next day we go to Starbucks and little quiet and grumpy before bed, and so the next day we go to Starbucks and this isn't even about this.

Speaker 1: 9:09

This isn't even about the thing that the next day but I wasn't fussy about that I told you there was a lot of stuff going on and we're trying to get the kids thing school figured out anyways. So she, I said I don't think I need to talk about it. And she's like yes, you do. And I was like look, I don't, I'm fine, I think I'm fine, I'll be fine. She's like no, if you have something with, if you've got meat with her beef.

Speaker 2: 9:30

If you've got beef, it's meat. If you've got meat, with me. If you've got beef with me, I've got a pork chop.

Speaker 1: 9:37

We had meat, but I anyway. So she made me talk about it. It ended up being a fight that afternoon or the next day. We're now in the living room Sadie was there, she left, we're alone and I said, hey, we should probably talk about this thing. And she goes. I don't want to talk about it and I'm like how can I? I don't care, how can.

Speaker 1: 9:59

I, I don't want to talk about it, and then we have to talk about it. If she doesn't want to talk about it, I'll leave the room. That doesn't seem fair, it's not.

Speaker 3: 10:10

Agreed. Do you know what's crazy? Yeah, this is what our fight was about this morning.

Speaker 1: 10:15

Not wanting to talk about it.

Speaker 2: 10:17

Really.

Speaker 3: 10:17

About checking in our emotions and me not pursuing her like checking in with her on how she's doing or feeling. Yeah, Because we try to do this thing every night.

Speaker 1: 10:28

Yeah, you said this.

Speaker 3: 10:29

We've been not doing that recently. Just summer kids, not bedtime. We're just like just crazy. But that's what the fight was about. I was like we're good, right, I'm good whatever.

Speaker 2: 10:41

And I was like, if you need to check in, I love doing it, I'm happy to check in whenever you need to, and it was like well, I want you to want to check in, like that whole thing. Yeah, so I want you to want to.

Speaker 3: 10:52

I want you to want, like I don't want to ask you to check in if you don't want to do it no, I do want to do it. I just don't feel like I need to do it like I've I'm. I don't when we don't check in.

Speaker 3: 10:59

I don't write stories that were not okay yeah, oh right I'm like well, we're okay, and if you need to check in, it's the difference in our personalities. She, as a nine, needs someone to say, hey, your voice matters. Yeah, I want you to check in. I just assume that everybody wants to know what I'm thinking all the time yeah, you guys are 25, 20 something years married. Yeah, it'll be.

Speaker 1: 11:22

In a couple weeks it'll be 23 years okay, I mean a lot changes in a couple of decades. I mean because our, our early patterns historically were same. I'm I'm talking about me all the time. She in her enneagram, which I didn't know at the time, you know, her fiveness just goes, and so I would have to draw her out and I didn't do it. I didn't do it well, and then I learned that and then we had this kind of but now sometimes she doesn't want to be drawn out and sometimes I am not doing the work of, and so I'll be like, hey, are you? And she'll be like, look, I thank you for for asking, but I don't want to talk about it. She's in her safe shell but she does not know what to do. When I say I don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 2: 12:13

No, I'm not used to that. And I say I'm fine, because you always want to talk about it.

Speaker 1: 12:17

Well, historically maybe, but we can't you know what I mean.

Speaker 3: 12:25

He never shuts up about it. I'm just kidding. That was, I think so, jamie's point this morning. Really, you stop talking about yourself so much you might realize that I'm like why somebody else might have feelings in this house okay, I, I've realized that my intimacy disorder runs pretty, pretty deep. Yeah, like me knowing how to like show up with other humans, I'm in weekly therapy. Still just about that.

Speaker 2: 12:51

Oh yeah, I should be.

Speaker 1: 12:52

Intimacy disorder stuff. I'm writing that down what Intimacy disorder?

Speaker 3: 12:57

I have that Every addict at the core of an addiction is intimacy disorder. Really it's a lack of connection. He's a spiritual. At the core of an addiction is intimacy disorder.

Speaker 1: 13:03

It's a lack of connection.

Speaker 3: 13:05

I don't know. He's a spiritual director, ask him.

Speaker 1: 13:06

Well, I've been, I've been using the word. That's been helpful. I mean helpful to me, but also my client. I've been using the word user a lot because you know you may there'll be people that are like do you think I'm an alcoholic, like? And I'm like, well, no, you're not knocking over liquor stores, but you're a user and users this is the behavior. Or the spouse will be like hey, do you think so-and-so is a? And I go well, yeah, probably not an addict, but they're a user. We're medicating pain and once we can start if we can just start using the word pain, like just getting used to going pain, pain, pain, where'd that pain come from people start using the word pain and it saw it actually softens them.

Speaker 2: 13:51

Absolutely was empathetic. Yeah, because if it's pain rather than just, that was the first thing.

Speaker 3: 13:56

I think I told you that's the first thing chip said to me in my intervention. He looked at me when I was busted, caught, jay was up losing everything. The first thing he said at me, with tears in his eyes, he said how long have you been in pain? And I was just like I didn't know I was in pain. But him having the experience and the empathy to be like this is a sick person, not a bad person or evil person. Who's in pain.

Speaker 1: 14:23

That needs help definitely reframes a situation to where it's not like oh, you're a bad, evil person and you need to get fixed yeah, well, and if I I've realized, you know, and in a way I feel bad for some of my earlier clients, you know, back in california, and yeah, because I'm like man, I wish I'd I didn't have as much practice, you know, but you probably should refund them. Well, they didn't pay me anything they were free.

Speaker 3: 14:45

They didn't have as much practice, you know, but you probably should refund them.

Speaker 2: 14:46

Well, they didn't pay me anything.

Speaker 1: 14:48

They didn't know they were clients. Wait, am I a client?

Speaker 1: 14:52

But if you follow that, follow that trail down from pain. It usually goes to what did you lose? And then you get. Once you get to loss, then you can start to do the grief work. You know it's like, start to do the grief work. It's like, oh, I'm sad, I'm in pain because the thing, and some people are like, yeah, but I'd never, and I'm like, well, the loss of dreams is just as much the loss of hopes. And I'm talking to a couple of people right now who are so grateful for the life that they have. They love their spouse, they love their kids, but they got married early and so they're grieving a little bit of like what? Oh man, I spent my 20s raising my kids and, man, now I'm like it's okay, you are still allowed to be sad.

Speaker 3: 15:46

Well, yeah, I was about to say isn't loss the impairment of sadness?

Speaker 1: 15:49

Isn't that the I need to write that down too.

Speaker 3: 15:53

Man, you're welcome, no kidding.

Speaker 2: 15:56

I've been doing a lot of studying this summer Education.

Speaker 1: 15:58

Well, all I am is a thief.

Speaker 2: 16:01

I don't.

Speaker 1: 16:02

I may say some of the people. They go Jeremy, that's so good a thief, I don't. I mean I may say some of the people they go jeremy, that's so good.

Speaker 3: 16:07

Now I go. Well, yeah, it's not mine. Well, I only say it because sadness is the the emotion that I struggle to get to the most. Like I, I really struggle to be sad and yeah I just struggle to be do you feel it?

Speaker 2: 16:20

and you just don't allow yourself.

Speaker 3: 16:21

I don't allow myself to feel like I am.

Speaker 3: 16:24

So just last week I lost my best friend to an overdose oh that was my best friend from rehab, I should say, oh, this was the guy that I was like, he's my brother like I don't know if I could have made it through without him was he doing okay for a while, yeah, he had a lot of trauma, a lot of, actually a lot of just brain injuries like um, but man just, and I'm really struggling to mourn, like I'm like I don't know that I've grieved it yet what we I'm going back to denver for a service in a week or two and I've had moments where when I really broke down is when I, when I was telling my daughters I found out I was in denver with my daughters when I found out and I was telling them how much pain he was in.

Speaker 3: 17:08

I was like he was just in so much pain like he couldn't get relief unless he was using he tried and tried and tried, but I I really struggled to get to the loss and the sadness like it's yeah and I've had to just like give myself grace and be like okay, well, you're just gonna have to grieve at your own. Yeah, you know some of that's church leadership where you didn't, you had to make sure everyone else was okay before you checked in with yourself.

Speaker 3: 17:31

Usually if we went through something traumatic in the church, it was like a year and a half later. Everyone else was fine. Yeah, it was a distant memory for them. I'm like wait a minute, I think I still got some bullet holes here I haven't right right loss and pain they occupy.

Speaker 1: 17:46

They occupy the same space, so they're like a compounding reality. It's not like what was your friend's name, bigs, bigsy. So the loss of bigs, even though it is separate than the other losses you've experienced, they're. They live real, close, totally and so they're just going to feel the same, and so you're going to. You're going to refill and remember losses from before, as you're processing bigs.

Speaker 1: 18:13

you know just all that, all of that pain and loss and the sadness it comes from, it's in the same spot. I mean the two questions when I was in my training and and that Christie and Bill, my teachers, were brilliant in this regard. They were like look, we're trying to answer two questions here, and if you can keep these questions when you're talking to anybody in the front, even if you're not saying hey, what are the answers to these? It is what does this person think about when they think about God and what sad thing happened to affect that?

Speaker 1: 18:45

And I'm like oh that is brilliant, like because the sad things they affect the way you know. If we knew, like I mean at the core, if we knew how much God loved us and how good God is and we were able to see God that way, it would affect the sad things that happen. But unfortunately the sad things affect you know, the problem of what is it called the theodicy, the problem of suffering. We're all just, we're all trying to process that. Yeah, but I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1: 19:25

I mean that summer of 2024 was going to be the loss of Bigs. The summer Bigs died.

Speaker 3: 19:30

Yeah, I think so. I think in hindsight it will be and we've had. I mean, our summer has been fantastic. I mean it's been one of the best summers of our lives. I mean it's been great.

Speaker 2: 19:39

Good.

Speaker 3: 19:40

But yeah, that was kind of a weird way to end it. And but yeah, that was kind of a weird way to end it and I'm such a reframer too, Like for me. I'm so happy he's not suffering.

Speaker 3: 19:50

He was in such closet, like every time I talked to him I'd say, biggs, how you doing? He's just like man, just the anxiety it would just keep him up. I mean he just was tormented Every hour he was awake it would torment him unless he was using. And then when he was in treatment and he did several, I mean gosh, I don't even know how many rehabs he's dead. I mean he was able to hold it together, but I I always thought I don't know how he's gonna make it if he's not institutionalized.

Speaker 3: 20:14

Um, so anyways, I think part of what's kept me from grieving is the reframing of I'm. I felt like a relief for him.

Speaker 2: 20:23

Right, that would be hard to break that because he's just miserable.

Speaker 3: 20:28

He was miserable Right and so unless he was using, then he was a wild man and that was so he never really found normal, that's hard. Even in, even in rehab, when some of us started climbing out, like we're getting to the 60, 70, 80 day mark and our brains are starting to heal and we're seeing some light at the end of the tunnel and he just never.

Speaker 2: 20:53

He never got there with his anxiety and his using. He always wanted to get out and start using again poor guy.

Speaker 3: 20:55

Yeah, but that is sad. But yeah, I think accessing sadness and loneliness is something that you know it's. There's just such a gift in it.

Speaker 1: 21:02

Yeah, if you're willing to go there, yeah, but and the gift in it too, is that we, you know, this is. This is strange because I had two or three people this summer talk to me about compartments, compartmentalization, and you know, in a way, they, they, for whatever reason, these folks have had thought as compartmentalization as bad. As you know, compartmentalize too much. And we did a wedding back in august, beautiful wedding, uh, we did, yeah, we did their marriage counseling and um, and then they got married.

Speaker 1: 21:36

Oh man, it was brutally hot. They got married here out on a field when I say field, I mean out in the middle of it.

Speaker 2: 21:42

In.

Speaker 1: 21:42

August.

Speaker 3: 21:43

August.

Speaker 2: 21:43

Beginning of August.

Speaker 1: 21:46

There was the wedding venue and then out. This is going to sound like an exaggeration, but they mow the aisle and the aisle is a minimum of a football field long. So they start at the barn and you're watching these people walk. I mean, they're teeny tiny when they start and then they get bigger and bigger. And anyways, it was still a beautiful wedding. It was probably my seventh or eighth wedding to do.

Speaker 2: 22:09

Was it that many? Well, yeah, because Nathan and Amanda was two of them, right, yeah, it doesn't matter the first couple I married.

Speaker 1: 22:15

I married twice, but anyways first one didn't stick Well they had a weird circumstance he was being deployed.

Speaker 2: 22:23

Oh, got it, they got married before he left and then came back and had a big wedding. Yeah, it was great, it stuck it just Gotcha. Yeah, no, it's, it was a ceremony.

Speaker 1: 22:31

They got two of them. So I mean it should stick, double stick Anyways. So after I feel like I'm kind of now, this was I was least nervous for this one. Anyways, before their wedding, the week before they had a little bit of family drama and they said can you guys meet up? And we met up and and she's like I don't know what to do with this and I said, look, you put it in a box. You know what I mean? It's the week of the wedding. Yeah, you know, put you, put it in a compartment, you enjoy this week and then you go on your honeymoon, you come back and we'll see what's there.

Speaker 1: 23:03

Yeah, we'll have to open it again, but I think that's okay right yeah now I wouldn't tell that to somebody who was, you know, who had just been, you know, beat by their dad. Sure I'd be like put in a box, buddy we'll think about that later but I mean, I do think that I actually feel like compartmentalization at times can be a gift, because sometimes you've got to get stuff done. I mean, we were talking about fighting and you know, she and I used to fight before we went on stage. It was predictable, almost.

Speaker 2: 23:37

Right.

Speaker 1: 23:37

Yeah, you're being kind of quiet.

Speaker 2: 23:41

Listen, I'm kind of mad about what we know, just kidding.

Speaker 1: 23:44

Well, put that in the box and show up, can you? Okay, sorry she doesn't like all these feelings talk yeah, it's too many feelings um. She wants to talk politics yes, let's talk about the fun stuff but I you know I'm like too difficult I might be a little more like jamie, like now let's get this, you know, let's go, and she'll be like no, I mean mean because I was the. You know, you don't let the sun go down on your anger.

Speaker 3: 24:08

Yeah don't go to sleep and she's just like babe go to sleep we'll talk about this in the morning.

Speaker 2: 24:14

Leave me alone, yeah I don't know.

Speaker 3: 24:16

Whoever came up with that was an idiot, because it's like well, it's in the bible, okay so I'm?

Speaker 1: 24:25

I want to think it was Solomon, maybe smartest guy to ever live, but I think maybe we've misinterpreted it.

Speaker 2: 24:32

Your face is so red.

Speaker 3: 24:35

I didn't know. I think it means don't die am I red for real?

Speaker 1: 24:39

yes, you turned red. It's something in the bible it's definitely biblical.

Speaker 3: 24:45

I'll revisit it. But you know what I think-. It sounds like a terrible idea. You're exhausted, you're tired, it is yeah.

Speaker 2: 24:52

Go to bed. I feel like we've interpreted it so wrong.

Speaker 1: 24:54

Okay, Well, I mean, Solomon had like so many wives. There's no way all his wives Well that's true. I think it means don't let somebody die while you have a thing Like sun going down. I think I mean, I like that better In my gospel.

Speaker 2: 25:10

That's a good gospel.

Speaker 1: 25:11

In my gospel, According to me, which is more like a pamphlet. That's what that means.

Speaker 2: 25:14

Well and also well, you are not Solomon. Let's just say that.

Speaker 3: 25:18

Do you want to talk about this?

Speaker 1: 25:20

You can't say it.

Speaker 2: 25:21

Shut up.

Speaker 1: 25:22

Solomum.

Speaker 2: 25:23

Solomum.

Speaker 1: 25:23

You're not Solomum.

Speaker 2: 25:25

Jidamum. What happened there, by the way? What did you do? That is from a flat iron. It feels like a cry for help.

Speaker 1: 25:31

Looks like what A cry for help.

Speaker 2: 25:33

Branding you branded me Just with a line.

Speaker 1: 25:36

I'm just doing flat iron branding. Now People are coming over.

Speaker 2: 25:45

I I was doing Sadie's hair. She's heading to a wedding In Minnesota, minnesota.

Speaker 3: 25:47

No, well it's.

Speaker 2: 25:47

Wisconsin, you are going, yes, she's doing hair for it. I'm going to try to do. She's the hair girl. Yeah, I'm doing hair.

Speaker 1: 25:52

You're not going to try. I mean you're doing so. She's practicing on Sadie right now.

Speaker 2: 25:55

I'm practicing on Sadie's hair, but I'm definitely going to try. It's been a minute.

Speaker 1: 25:59

Hey, those cameras went off.

Speaker 3: 26:00

You still they're good, Just the screen they're blinking. Oh they're good.

Speaker 2: 26:06

I'm sorry, I'm quiet. Yeah, why are you so quiet? I don't know.

Speaker 3: 26:10

I think because you're thinking, you went internal, probably, and you started thinking about what we're talking about. Maybe, so, Well, it's okay with me.

Speaker 1: 26:16

I mean I bet it is do eight episodes and this we're 34 in now, like shut up um I've hijacked every single one of them.

Speaker 3: 26:26

Did you guys miss it when we weren't doing it, or not really, summer was too busy oh, I did.

Speaker 1: 26:30

I missed a little I miss seeing you actually yeah, I've seen you guys I didn't miss, like the that felt so, not true, no, I did.

Speaker 2: 26:37

I've said, I've told you that on the text, I miss seeing you guys I'm the only one here who even thinks about the content before we sit down, that's probably why I love it, so I missed that a little bit. You missed thinking about the content.

Speaker 1: 26:49

Sorry, I liked but I missed this. I liked not having to think about it and we had a lot of people email and text go you know where are you at?

Speaker 3: 26:59

Well, I love that we didn't really give any notice.

Speaker 2: 27:01

No, we just disappeared. No, we just were're like we're out, and I actually that was the first season, wasn't it?

Speaker 3: 27:06

yeah? Yeah let's do another season sometime later. Yeah, we'll call each other there was no, like we just were gone we just couldn't get it together. I mean, summer was crazy. What did you guys do this summer? Last last time I remember you were helping a church.

Speaker 1: 27:19

Let me tell you what I wrote down for our summer recap. So we, we have to talk about um see. I want to talk about anything that we watched read, listen to podcast, movies, music.

Speaker 3: 27:32

Uh.

Speaker 1: 27:32

I turned 50 this summer, we went to a family reunion. Uh, I want to check in on on our new year's resolutions.

Speaker 2: 27:39

I feel like we're. I forgot what they were.

Speaker 1: 27:41

You don't what.

Speaker 2: 27:43

I don't remember mine.

Speaker 1: 27:44

I haven't peed with the door open for eight months. You have accidentally Not with the kids in the house.

Speaker 2: 27:51

Well, when Sadie Sadie you have, she's like daddy.

Speaker 1: 27:58

Well, I've been. It's usually when we're in the living room having a conversation.

Speaker 2: 28:06

he'll go in there and go pee and he doesn't want to miss out on the conversation.

Speaker 1: 28:07

Oh yeah, I said the only times that I leave the door open I'm in my own bedroom and the bathroom is back behind the wall. Yeah, and Sadie, I'm like bug. If you're going to be laying on my bed right, I might be with a door open but you can't see me Right.

Speaker 2: 28:25

How are you doing with? Yours, I don't remember it. I don't remember what mine was. You got a personal trainer. Oh yeah, that ended right away. I got a personal trainer I don't even remember that you had a coach. You got a health coach.

Speaker 3: 28:33

Oh yeah, no, that didn't work at all.

Speaker 2: 28:35

That didn't last.

Speaker 3: 28:36

That's over, oh, that's. I don't even think that lasted a week.

Speaker 1: 28:42

That's what you did, though I wrote it down you did Because I was like I want to check in on this.

Speaker 3: 28:46

What was mine? I don't know what you did. I think I was bartering with him on something Like there was like you'll do this for me, and then.

Speaker 2: 28:52

No, we talked about it. That ended right away. We talked about it on a podcast.

Speaker 3: 28:56

Yeah, I mean, I think we're still at your house. I mean, does it look like I still have a personal trainer? I think, you look good actually.

Speaker 1: 29:02

Thanks, it's the fishing shirt. No, I think you look great. When you got out of your truck I was like dang Drew looks great, but you carry anything. Well, you got the beard, the mullet. You're just a handsome guy.

Speaker 2: 29:13

You can handle it Thanks.

Speaker 3: 29:14

Appreciate that and we're stay in conversation at all because I'm tired of the. I'm tired of all the drew love that comes in. I know I wish we kept it going because I don't want, I want to be me.

Speaker 1: 29:28

That said, he's such a sweet man who said that I don't know some random listener yeah, and I'm like look he's not that sweet um

Speaker 3: 29:38

I. There's not a whole lot of things I do in my life for fun, and this is one of them. I enjoy it it's a fun.

Speaker 2: 29:43

It's a fun thing that it's fun, I enjoy it.

Speaker 3: 29:46

Yeah, we enjoy it too. What's?

Speaker 1: 29:47

funny is we talk to people about this and they're like when you're doing it and we tell them look, jennifer and Drew I don't know that they've ever spoken out of this context and they're like no, what I'm kind of scared to actually at this point yeah, well, I think I'd ruin it too. I'm just kidding IRL. One thing I wanted to do with these is really make an attempt to keep them under an hour, like 45, 50 minutes.

Speaker 3: 30:11

So let's do our half hour in.

Speaker 1: 30:12

Let's do our summer recap For next week. I do have I feel like it's going to be a fun topic, but other than you know.

Speaker 2: 30:23

I mean, there's so much politics that happened over the summer. Well, let's wrap up Big Z oh yeah, we got to go back to serious now.

Speaker 1: 30:31

That informed your summer, but other than that it was great.

Speaker 3: 30:34

Yeah, that was kind of at the tail end, but yeah, we did a lot of traveling together as a family, worked on building our business over the summer, which was fun. That's weed, right.

Speaker 1: 30:46

You're doing a lot of weed sales oh nice, I wish.

Speaker 2: 30:51

I'd be balling You'd be driving brand new, all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 1: 30:54

I've got the girls taking it back to school with them.

Speaker 3: 30:57

That's a big one. Both girls going to school.

Speaker 2: 31:00

Are they going?

Speaker 3: 31:01

Emery, this is a crazy story. I won't tell all that because nobody cares. Emory last minute bailed on the world race. She was gonna do the world race. Oh my gosh, remember, right she. I don't think she would mind me sharing this.

Speaker 3: 31:13

She started dealing with some pretty significant anxiety and yeah, I know so I am so freaking proud of her, though, because, for an 18 year old to do what she did this summer to actually like work on herself and to be like I'm not gonna, I don't have to like live this way permanently she went counseling and started doing all the things that people don't do to help kind of, you know, relieve some of the anxiety.

Speaker 1: 31:43

What was that?

Speaker 3: 31:44

and god opened the door. She was like I don't know what I'm gonna do if I don't do that. And then all of a sudden she's. She's thought about belmont and I'm in the back of my mind. I'm like we can't afford belmont. I don't know what you're talking about. I was like we'll just take the next step until the door closes. So she just kept going on the steps, steps on. Long story short, she's at belmont oh my god in a miracle situation, thriving, doing so well.

Speaker 3: 32:05

Grace went back to southeastern for her junior year. So two kids out of the house, and they're they're doing great.

Speaker 2: 32:10

What is she going to belmont for?

Speaker 3: 32:12

she's. She doesn't really know yet she knows she wants to work with kids and she really wants to work in maybe like a child psychology space potentially, and so her and grace may end up partnering together on something grace wants in maybe like a child psychology space potentially, and so her and Grace may end up partnering together on something Grace wants to start a children's home for children who have been in sex trafficking, needing a transition home until they get adopted.

Speaker 3: 32:36

Grace wants to have a place for that, and Maria, they talk about partnering up on something like that, so that would be really fun. Yeah, really exciting.

Speaker 1: 32:40

Well, I know somebody she can talk to. I really do Great. We just met some people who spent a lot of time in South Africa with doing children's home stuff.

Speaker 3: 32:48

And their church community.

Speaker 1: 32:49

That's what they do. Okay so it's downtown Nashville Awesome. I'll put her in touch with them. That would be great.

Speaker 3: 33:04

Because they could maybe go see how intern or help out and just learn. I mean, this is a big dream down the road, but wow, so yeah, amazing summer, the kids, that's great, we're doing great, um, they're, they're. Bentley started at her new school. At cpa she made the volleyball team oh good um.

Speaker 2: 33:12

She's thriving there, so yeah, everybody's going to cheap schools then four kids in private school and live in williamson county.

Speaker 3: 33:20

We just saw on the news is the third.

Speaker 2: 33:22

What expensive wealthiest County in the nation. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 1: 33:26

Yeah, people were when we moved back here. They're like oh, and there's so much cheaper here. We're like look, it isn't really orange to be orange County is orange County, california Williamson County. They're both about the same.

Speaker 2: 33:36

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 33:44

Um, so okay. So okay, let's, we can get into it a little bit I mean, my, my stuff is not that big.

Speaker 3: 33:46

Well, I mean, it has been a big politics summer yeah, president, president gets shot in the head.

Speaker 1: 33:49

Crazy rfk joins the president.

Speaker 2: 33:51

I mean, oh yeah, I feel like my divorce her, I mean, it makes me tear up seriously yeah I feel like my divorced parents got back together.

Speaker 1: 34:06

Can I tell you how?

Speaker 3: 34:07

dishonoring. That is when you have divorced parents. Did you like his VP pick?

Speaker 2: 34:13

I think I like him okay.

Speaker 3: 34:14

We went and watched the movie after he picked.

Speaker 2: 34:16

I haven't seen it. They won't watch it. Is it good? Yeah, it's a great movie.

Speaker 1: 34:21

Huntsville. What?

Speaker 2: 34:21

is it Hillbilly Elegy?

Speaker 1: 34:22

Hillbilly Elegy it's a great movie. Yeah, I mean, I've heard Huntsville Billy, what is it? Hillbilly Elegy?

Speaker 2: 34:25

Hillbilly Elegy. It's a great movie. Huntsville Billigy. There's that Huntsville is a hillbilly yeah.

Speaker 3: 34:28

I appreciate what it said about his mom at the convention, because the movie did not paint his mom in a good light.

Speaker 2: 34:43

Well, yeah, I mean I'm okay with it. I thought his speech was horrible, but I didn't see that it was rough.

Speaker 3: 34:47

Oh yeah, I watched both conference. I watched both the dnc and the rnc.

Speaker 2: 34:48

Oh, I can't do it. I mean this is.

Speaker 1: 34:51

This is cheesecake for her I mean you love it. It's like sports for me I watch it and I'm like, okay, I've had enough but you don't get angry, doesn't, doesn't get stirred up, I've got to have more Angry. Yes, it does make you angry.

Speaker 2: 35:05

It makes me angry when they lie. I don't like the lying.

Speaker 1: 35:09

But they all lie. Yeah, I mean, even your divorced parents that are now back together have lied. Oh, but they're back together. Oh my God, oh, it just makes me so happy, yes it makes me so happy we actually had.

Speaker 2: 35:23

Like that video of him getting called up on the stage at that conference, I mean at that rally.

Speaker 3: 35:28

Yeah, makes me tear up. You got choked up a little bit yeah.

Speaker 1: 35:32

The firefighters, the whole thing For those of you who didn't tune into season one, jennifer, as you can guess, really gets activated by politics and she has a season every four years, although the I usually enjoy the downtime between each. You know the election cycle. I remember this started probably most powerfully with the 2020 election and the hanging chads and 2020.

Speaker 2: 36:01

They're sorry 2000.

Speaker 1: 36:02

It would have been the 2000 election and the hanging chads and 2020. Sorry, 2000. It would have been the 2000 election.

Speaker 2: 36:06

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 36:06

Bush, gore, anyways.

Speaker 2: 36:09

But then there is usually I mean I held signs for that election there's. It was before the hanging chads there usually is. I went out and held signs at the polls. Sign holder, yeah.

Speaker 1: 36:16

There's a really healthy several year lull.

Speaker 2: 36:20

Yeah, really healthy several year lull in between, yeah, the midterms, I don't usually get involved in the midterms but between 2020 and 2020.

Speaker 1: 36:26

Now there hasn't been a lull. It has just been, and I miss the lull. I miss the, and I think it's because of social media.

Speaker 2: 36:38

I think it keeps it present. It's also because of the news cycle.

Speaker 1: 36:42

But I mean, this time next year can we be in the lull?

Speaker 2: 36:44

I don't know how am I supposed to answer that.

Speaker 1: 36:47

Well, you have the power.

Speaker 2: 36:48

No, I don't. I got to follow wherever the river takes us.

Speaker 1: 36:53

I mean, we were living in California and this happened. You were like, babe, this is every election cycle and then I go back to normal. But it feels I can't help it. The world hasn't gone back to normal. Okay, we're just talking on the ride back here from starbucks that I don't think we're supposed to have this much stimulation no, I totally agree.

Speaker 1: 37:13

Well, social media, all that stuff you're, I think we're supposed to be a little more ignorant I had friends email me and then we did get comments when rfk yeah, I had I had two friends in particular ago. I can't wait to talk to jennifer about this oh yeah um, and then we had I had a friend reach out to me and we had another comment that says I want you and jennifer to talk on the podcast about how you do your relationship with one of you being more we fight a lot.

Speaker 2: 37:44

Well, one we have.

Speaker 1: 37:46

I am not I am not a liberal, but I'm probably a little. I am? You're more of a centrist, I'm a little more purple than jennifer is, um, and they're like how do you do that? And so I guess we'll have to talk about that at some point we fight we don't fight.

Speaker 2: 38:01

We have fought a lot about it.

Speaker 1: 38:04

We disagree and we fight.

Speaker 2: 38:06

Just admit it. Why is that so hard for you to admit?

Speaker 1: 38:09

A lot of our fights, though, are about me trying to say look, I am with you, I'm just not as fervent, I don't have the zeal. I think people should have guns. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 38:22

I'm not saying that we don't fight on the issues. We fight on the fact that I'm involved in it.

Speaker 1: 38:28

But I wish we would fight on the issues, because you make me an adversary.

Speaker 2: 38:34

I'm not fighting with you on my involvement. It annoys you.

Speaker 1: 38:38

So you fight with me on my involvement. I've figured out that I might be a rhinoceros, or whatever you call them like a rhino. Yes, a republican in name only, okay, well, I'm not even a republican, but I've like some of these people I listen to, I go I go shirley jennifer like them and I bring them up and she'll be like, nope, they're bad, i'm'm like oh man Swing and a miss he's like, I like this guy, I'm like ugh, please.

Speaker 1: 39:06

So we've watched a lot of that. I mean, and I actually, when former President Trump got shot in the head, I was like, okay, this is something to pay attention to.

Speaker 2: 39:15

But that was weird, it was a big deal.

Speaker 1: 39:16

Okay, listen, we canceled plans that night.

Speaker 3: 39:20

It was a big deal. I was on a plane and I overheard it three rows back and then we took off and I was like, is he dead? Oh my gosh, it was an older couple listening to on their phone and they made him turn it off, but it just was an announcement that he'd been shot oh my god he spent three hours on a plane and as soon as I landed I opened up my phone to see if he was still alive how crazy is that?

Speaker 2: 39:41

of course, we were flying, I think, Frontier we didn't have internet on the plane you could have landed and we've been in Civil War, we could have we would have not been in Civil War.

Speaker 1: 39:50

Listen, this is what I'm talking about. We don't need to take it to Civil War.

Speaker 2: 39:54

I don't want Civil War. I'm not saying that. I think people would have definitely sparked something. That was crazy.

Speaker 3: 40:02

People would have went crazy.

Speaker 2: 40:05

I think so too. I don't know. This is your podcast.

Speaker 3: 40:08

I don't know if we want to go here, but I will say and I know how you love a good conspiracy theory.

Speaker 2: 40:13

Okay, what do you got?

Speaker 3: 40:14

I mean, I think I'm in on this, donald Trump, there is too many High five. I don't know which one you're talking about which you guys just agreed on something. We don't even know what, I just know. I don't know what it is, but the shooting was.

Speaker 2: 40:31

There's too many signs that point to it, dude.

Speaker 3: 40:32

Yes, even for me who is super skeptical? Not, I'm not, I'm just like come on, there's more to this than what we know and that guy's body, like they quickly got rid of it.

Speaker 2: 40:42

Did you hear about that?

Speaker 3: 40:42

Yeah, I mean the whole thing is cuckoo.

Speaker 1: 40:46

I mean, yeah, it's crazy what do you think, okay, I don't know, but I don't spend a whole lot of time, like she does, thinking about stuff that we'll never know?

Speaker 2: 40:56

Yeah, and so I don't care about going down that road, because you're too good for that. I'm not, I don't have the time it's interesting to me.

Speaker 1: 41:03

I have crossword puzzles to do.

Speaker 2: 41:05

Exactly, I don't have the time. And then he does that constantly.

Speaker 3: 41:08

I'm with you on that I don't think about it a lot.

Speaker 2: 41:10

But it was so fishy. But the other weird thing, and I mean, people have said did it really happen, you know?

Speaker 3: 41:16

Oh right, right, right, he saved it.

Speaker 2: 41:19

But his ear got better real quick though.

Speaker 1: 41:24

His ear got better quick it did. Maybe they heal fast.

Speaker 2: 41:27

Well, maybe they do have a lot of blood apparently.

Speaker 3: 41:30

So does the ketchup packet.

Speaker 2: 41:32

I know, I think it happened.

Speaker 1: 41:33

No, he was rattled, it happened.

Speaker 2: 41:35

It happened, but I don't know.

Speaker 3: 41:38

It's just bizarre, it's really bizarre. I'm like you. That's probably my general stance in politics is. I'm being lied to by everyone. I'll never know the truth, so why should I Well?

Speaker 2: 41:49

that's where I'm at. Okay, here's my question is what do you think is the what conspiracy part? Do you think it was CIA? What do you think? See I?

Speaker 3: 41:57

don't know I've gone that far down that road. Okay, I don't know I've gone that far down that road. Okay, I, I think, I. There's a part of me that thinks it was a planned assassination attempt, because they, I don't, I think they think he's gonna win yeah, well, I mean, they've tried everything else that's what I, that's probably what I people have called it like the only thing left is to kill you.

Speaker 1: 42:22

The guy is. I'll tell you he is. He's something I mean.

Speaker 3: 42:26

Of course.

Speaker 1: 42:27

I listened to Theo Vaughn and he interviewed Trump, but yesterday Did you listen to the interview? Yesterday yeah, I listened to the interview, which was fine. It was fine. But yesterday Theo was talking about his whole experience in. Where is that?

Speaker 2: 42:39

place Bedminster, bedminster.

Speaker 1: 42:40

And how, after they did the interview, he went out to the golf course a while and of course, Theo is just funny the way he explains stuff because he's trying to explain the Secret Service and he's gone. There's dudes out there in suits with hand cannons man. And I'm like so that stuff's funny. But he said, then we went to dinner and he didn't know Trump was coming down.

Speaker 2: 43:06

And so I guess it's is it a?

Speaker 1: 43:07

it's a hotel or a club or something? I guess it's. It's like a. I think it's like a country club. Okay, so club uh. Trump walked in and, proud to be an american, played and theo was talking about how long the song is when someone's just walking in and sitting down for dinner. But he said, then trump sat down and had dinner, but then trump wanted to control the playlist so he had had the iPad with the aux cord going to the sound system and Trump just would pick songs for each course.

Speaker 1: 43:26

He was like he played Poison for the soup, that's hilarious. You'll have to listen to Theo's podcast. But Theo's kind of like Jennifer, because Theo loves RFK. They're personal friends and so he can't speak highly enough of of RFK.

Speaker 2: 43:43

So anyways, um, so that you should listen to the Tucker Carlson interview with RFK.

Speaker 1: 43:48

It is it's good so so good. I, I have to it's worth a listen. I have to listen to that stuff because then it you know cause, then I know where where she's at.

Speaker 3: 44:05

You know, I'm just so I can't tell you how excited I am about those two. What I mean, I don't what I mean.

Speaker 2: 44:07

He like he endorsed trump.

Speaker 3: 44:07

Yeah, oh, you didn't know that no, I mean, I knew that, I, just I. What else is that it?

Speaker 2: 44:11

well, because now he's working with trump and is if trump gets elected, he's going to be in the cabinet somewhere okay hopefully running our. I mean he's so good on health stuff and I mean you know, jennifer's been she's been on rfk for a decade and a half, like yeah, maybe not that long she's liked him, you know, and so this is. You know it's a for her it's a legit yeah um, because I knew he was never going to get elected.

Speaker 1: 44:39

So now I'm like anything else for you this summer that's interesting other than that other than politics.

Speaker 2: 44:45

Yeah, I mean sure, I just gotta think about it pretty much that.

Speaker 1: 44:51

What though?

Speaker 2: 44:52

well, you turned old I did turn old.

Speaker 1: 44:55

Oh, by the way, I just got I've got two drinks going on. I got this one uh from a listener uh, and she sent me this uh weird being the same age as the old people which, oh, that was appropriate.

Speaker 3: 45:08

How do you feel about 50? That doesn't seem old to me, because I'm probably. I'll come right behind you I didn't.

Speaker 1: 45:12

I'm okay with it. Now I I was a little the week of I was like, ah, this you were bummed yeah, I don't. I don't love being 50, but I don't feel any different we.

Speaker 2: 45:23

You know I didn't want to have a party or anything. So we just went to dinner. Well, that's good.

Speaker 1: 45:27

We went to dinner with Robert Beeson oh, by the way, that's good that you didn't want that, because it didn't happen. Surprise party, by the way, there are four guests from last season that people just keep talking about, and so I've texted all four of those people and they're all coming back.

Speaker 2: 45:42

Oh really.

Speaker 1: 45:44

I thought we could do like a friends of the podcast thing where they all you know, maybe every six months or whatever they come back.

Speaker 2: 45:51

Who are the people?

Speaker 1: 45:52

Aaron, People really love that podcast Aaron Benward, Robert Beeson, John Mays and Scott Williamson.

Speaker 2: 45:57

Scott Williamson too.

Speaker 1: 45:59

Oh funny those four are already committed. Aaron won't be here until December because he's filming the show. I love that show. I want to watch it after that episode.

Speaker 3: 46:07

I really like it.

Speaker 1: 46:08

It's a good show and so that'll be fun. I thought we'll have them come check back in and talk about what. It was funny. I texted John Mays. I texted him last night at quarter to 10, and he responded yeah, I can't wait. And I was like what are you doing up?

Speaker 2: 46:22

Yeah, that's way past his bedtime.

Speaker 1: 46:29

I'm in LA, I was like, oh okay, that makes sense, but anyway, so that'll be happening. I also have a couple of other guests that have said yes, and they're all fun, funny people. I did, but we need. Hutch turned 21 this summer.

Speaker 2: 46:38

Oh, that was fun. That was super fun.

Speaker 3: 46:39

Yeah, we had a birthday party, man he's doing a lot of great work, right now.

Speaker 2: 46:43

Yeah, he's great. Hutch has completely replaced you.

Speaker 1: 46:47

Yeah, so he. I actually have friends now who would normally call me to come play a gig.

Speaker 2: 46:52

Or just come hang out.

Speaker 1: 46:53

They're calling Hutch. He just got back from a gig in California with a friend that the last time this guy needed somebody he was me, and this guy needed somebody, he was me, and this time it was Hutch. But you've got to be. That's kind of awesome.

Speaker 3: 47:03

It is awesome, it's awesome, it is awesome.

Speaker 2: 47:05

And then a friend of yours had Hutch just ride around with him all day yesterday.

Speaker 1: 47:09

Yeah, you know, monty Kelso.

Speaker 2: 47:12

Yeah, they are friends, they hung out. Yeah yeah, he just hung out with Hutch all day, all day.

Speaker 1: 47:25

Yeah, uh, shout out. He's how we met, is it okay?

Speaker 2: 47:27

uh, so that happened this summer, sadie had and, and then broke up with her first boyfriend yes, she all in the summer, yeah, all in the summer. Sweet, uh, really great. Broke his heart.

Speaker 1: 47:33

Yeah, well, I don't know, he's okay I'm not sure they're old enough for the hearts to be broken. Was this the first boyfriend they?

Speaker 3: 47:39

were how did you guys feel about the first boyfriend? Was that exciting? We?

Speaker 1: 47:43

liked yeah, it was fun yeah it would have been different if we didn't like him. But he sweet kid yeah yeah, she's on to some. I mean she's hanging out with some other boys who are sweet what I just want to make sure you're oh looking at, but are like maybe heartbreakers yeah, yeah and they're not like.

Speaker 2: 47:59

I mean, she's not liking them really, but I'm like this other boy was just so sweet.

Speaker 1: 48:04

We should get what's your closest age daughter to Sadie. Is it Bentley? How old's Sadie? She's 16.

Speaker 2: 48:11

Almost 17.

Speaker 1: 48:12

Well, Emery would be closer. We should have both those on we should do a 16-year-old girl interview because, like Sadie, comes into our room about 11 o'clock, I've never had this little sleep during the summer because we wait up for sadie to come in and then she comes in and she tells us all the teenage drama and it's so fun, yeah yeah, I love it.

Speaker 2: 48:34

It's so fun.

Speaker 1: 48:35

She sits on our bed and tells us the scoop every night the only bummer about it is Sometimes I'll have already been like Okay.

Speaker 2: 48:43

I'm shutting it down.

Speaker 3: 48:44

And I've taken Ambien.

Speaker 1: 48:46

And then they wake me up. Then you get the crazy stuff.

Speaker 2: 48:49

We have so many good videos of him.

Speaker 3: 48:52

Oh, it's so great From the summer.

Speaker 2: 48:54

Oh yeah, Just us videoing him after he's taken Ambien.

Speaker 1: 48:58

And that's just torturing him. I woke up in an Ambien stupor at midnight Holding a deck of cards.

Speaker 2: 49:04

Because they were trying.

Speaker 1: 49:06

Oh yeah, I've seen this prank, yeah. Have you seen this prank? Yeah?

Speaker 2: 49:08

yeah, yeah, you wake someone up and you give them the cards and tell them it's their turn. Where you put the cards In their hand. Yeah, and we're like Honey, it's your turn, were you?

Speaker 3: 49:14

confused.

Speaker 2: 49:16

Not really he kind of came out.

Speaker 1: 49:27

You know, sometimes I'll be dreaming and they'll wake me up and I'll still be kind of in the dream and then I'll oh, he says the stupidest stuff.

Speaker 2: 49:35

Look at the picture over there. His dream's coming out of it. It's one thing you said Dream's coming out of that picture over there. And he's always like half smiling.

Speaker 1: 49:44

Then they got into this thing where they were watching this girl who I mean, you've seen the girls do the stick horse thing where they run, okay, but now there's a girl.

Speaker 2: 49:52

That just is the horse, she's on all four. Have you seen this?

Speaker 1: 49:56

girl. She's like on TikTok. I think she's in shape.

Speaker 2: 49:59

It's not impressive when you look at it, but then you try it and you're like, oh wow, she's good because we tried it.

Speaker 1: 50:06

Well, midnight we get out of bed and start trying this stuff and he's on ambient and then sadie films it and sends it to her friends.

Speaker 2: 50:16

It's nice to her friends.

Speaker 1: 50:17

Yeah, it's nice, it's fun times, it's good stuff yeah, so that has, but that actually is really fun. We went to the fair and we spied on her oh, that was fun did you go to the fair. No, I hate the fair we don't like it either, but we went and we went on the night that you can pay with cans.

Speaker 2: 50:32

You know I'm talking about oh yeah you take four cans yeah, of food yeah so we got in free and then we didn't write anything why don't they do the fair in the fall I?

Speaker 1: 50:41

know why do I?

Speaker 3: 50:42

gotta go walk and be sweaty and nasty and dirty I hate the fair.

Speaker 2: 50:46

Why don't they do it in october? Here's the thing.

Speaker 3: 50:49

I would love the fair fizz and fall if you could walk around. It'd be cool and whatever, but it's miserable.

Speaker 2: 50:54

It is. Nobody walks around in the daytime anyway. Why not have it fall?

Speaker 3: 50:58

My son loves it. He'd be legitimately upset if I went and spied on him, though he's at that age where.

Speaker 2: 51:03

We didn't really spy and she knew.

Speaker 1: 51:05

Well, she eventually saw us.

Speaker 2: 51:06

I mean we were in plain sight. Did she know you were going to be there?

Speaker 1: 51:10

Yeah, but we were going to be with the animals, so we wanted to go see the animals, and so we did that. And then we looked on the Find my Friends. We were like, well, we probably could find her on here, so then we did go find her and then she saw us.

Speaker 2: 51:25

I mean they would send us for drinks and stuff. They were waiting in line, the shave ice guy was there, oh my gosh, I love a good shave ice. Yeah, I mean, it's the one where that's redeeming.

Speaker 1: 51:33

It's not a snow cone, it's like the. It's a cup and then you dispense your own.

Speaker 2: 51:39

Juice and he had.

Speaker 1: 51:40

if you buy the cup, you get refills, and so I had five that night in two hours. I'm surprised you didn was acting like a maniac.

Speaker 3: 51:53

Five is a lot of that stuff. It was a lot, it was a lot of sugar.

Speaker 2: 51:56

We came home and I made him walk up and down the stairs for 10 minutes at least Because I'm like you've got to burn some of this off.

Speaker 1: 52:01

I was like I can't. We did walk up and down the stairs, I did, and her friend's in line and Sadie was like Daddy, what is wrong with?

Speaker 2: 52:10

you. Yeah, she's like why are you acting like this?

Speaker 3: 52:12

I could do the fair if you catch me like camped out on a bench with a shaved ice.

Speaker 2: 52:16

Oh, that was us. Yeah, it was us. That's what we did, and people watching that's what we did. It was so fun.

Speaker 3: 52:20

I'm fine with that.

Speaker 1: 52:25

Yeah, I could do that. Oh, we totally people tourists in the on the weekends and so a lot of saturdays we'll just sit down there and watch people oh, it's downtown yeah it's like a little parade they go by us and we get the jesus guy we oh gosh.

Speaker 2: 52:38

So we said do you know where the sleeping store is? Uh-uh you know? Starbucks, yeah, optometrist toby max store yeah, I think sleep store right yeah okay, okay.

Speaker 3: 52:49

So creary's is down there somewhere close by yeah, you don't near your downtown, never mind. Well, anyway, the.

Speaker 2: 52:54

Sleep Store puts out two rocking chairs every morning Before you get into the story, not, I mean.

Speaker 1: 52:58

no one's been to our town. Franklin is a sleepy, old Civil War town that in the past 10 years has become the center of the earth, and so it used to be like our our tree lighting used to be a smattering of people. Now it's 10,000 people, with Matthew freaking West down there singing his head off Anyways.

Speaker 2: 53:22

So which we love, matthew but it's like it sounded a little hard. No, no, no no.

Speaker 1: 53:27

That's not what I meant.

Speaker 3: 53:28

It's just like a big thing now and on the weekends so much I want to say right now About Muffy West, no, no, just that experience.

Speaker 1: 53:37

Oh, yeah, yeah it's crazy. It's become like a star-studded. You know, sheryl Crow was at the theater the other night filming a show Anyhow. So on the weekends there's all tourists from all over, and so we just.

Speaker 2: 53:52

So this store brings out two rocking chairs and you can sit at their and it's like underneath the thing so you're not in the sun. It's nice. So we sit out there most Saturdays mornings and watch people.

Speaker 3: 54:02

Just people watch. Yes, so fun. It's the best seats in town, part of why I love being in an airport, that kind of stuff. I'm all about some people watching, but we that kind of stuff.

Speaker 2: 54:10

I'm all about some people watching, but now we have this guy on Saturday morning. It's this old man who does not even smile and yells at people about Jesus and it's so frustrating.

Speaker 3: 54:19

I think it worked for him.

Speaker 2: 54:20

I'm like buddy, you do.

Speaker 3: 54:23

I'm like buddy please.

Speaker 2: 54:24

The other day he asked him to move down. I'm like you've got to ask him. He's ruining our Saturday.

Speaker 1: 54:29

Oh, he just finds a spot, camps out and yells at people, yeah, and he's got he's got some, some, uh, some information in his fanny pack he wears a little fanny pack, so he's got like some tracks and then he's got some coins, like jesus coins.

Speaker 1: 54:42

Yeah, sometimes he'll just chuck one on the street just to try and draw attention and then people come by and he'll just get right in their face and be like do you know, know, Jesus? And he just says it even weird. And as cars go by he points to the sky and he's like Jesus and he's got John 316 on the front and he never smiles.

Speaker 2: 55:00

And this one guy walked by the other day who had an ACDC shirt on Are you going to heaven? Do you know where you're going? The guy's like, yeah, he goes, so you know something about that's a highway to hell.

Speaker 1: 55:14

You can have a stairway to heaven.

Speaker 2: 55:15

He's like, I'm going, he goes, I'm going he goes. Well, then you need to burn your t-shirt.

Speaker 1: 55:19

So he was kind of in front of us. No, he was right in front of us. Jennifer wanted him to move and she also didn't want people to think we were with him.

Speaker 2: 55:27

Yeah because people were walking down the street and they look at them and look at us like y'all together, like man.

Speaker 3: 55:32

Ffh is the backup band for this Jesus guy.

Speaker 2: 55:35

Now I wonder where they went. This is us now.

Speaker 3: 55:39

This is who we're with. This is what we do.

Speaker 1: 55:42

Jennifer's wearing her MAGA hat no. Anyway. So finally she's like do you have the guts to ask him to move?

Speaker 1: 55:50

And I was like, well, well not really, I mean how I'm gonna go to this evangelist and say, hey, can we? But then she was like I want to stay and eat, and so we ordered takeout and I went to him I said, hey, man, we're gonna try to just kind of have a quiet lunch, would you mind? Just going on the other side of the tree maybe, and just, and he just looked at me like I knew his wheels were turning, like, and then he just moved. He did, yeah, he just moved. I mean 10 feet, but he he did.

Speaker 2: 56:17

It made a big difference.

Speaker 1: 56:18

Yeah, he honored the request. He did.

Speaker 2: 56:19

He honored the request he was, I angered him. Did you say angered it?

Speaker 1: 56:24

yeah, it came back and I sat down. I'm like I made him mad.

Speaker 3: 56:30

It's so weird though we have that guy and then, like everyone's saved in franklin dude, go to another right and then we have another group in air quotes we have another group that sets up on the square yeah, have you seen these?

Speaker 1: 56:40

people on right by the statue and by the cannons it's like I don't know. This usually happens early in the morning or in the evening, when people are eating and they in the evening they play worship music real loud have you not seen this and then they have like a smattering, like three or four people that walk around it singing, acting weird, and I'm like what are we doing here? This is the like we definitely wouldn't let Muslims do, this.

Speaker 2: 57:08

Right.

Speaker 1: 57:08

We wouldn't let you know what are we doing.

Speaker 2: 57:11

This is so intrusive vibe downtown we're trying to have mellow mushroom yeah, it's and it's not. I feel like it's not making people think we're I don't know. It doesn't make jesus look good. I don't feel like correct.

Speaker 1: 57:25

That's what bothers me I mean yeah and you know this goes back to your. I don't think you've ever told the story on the podcast. We can maybe end with this, but the your story from africa on the beach oh, I can't remember all of it, but I just remember being like god.

Speaker 2: 57:39

I'm jesus, I'm not embarrassed of you, I'm embarrassed of your people I mean this is whenever, remember whenever, what's his face called ellen degenerous, ellen degenerate, yeah and I was like what are? We doing like why, that's just mean, yeah, there's just no reason for that. But I was, and I was like I'm not embarrassed of you, it's the people and I can't what, I, I can't remember.

Speaker 1: 58:00

Put it all together right now because you, I'm on the spot well, I think we were both a little grieved about like that, like the representation of god, and then also our part in it, like I was reading.

Speaker 1: 58:13

So in africa, africa, we had, you know, there was one little sort of cabin cottage left in this farm village where we wanted to live, and we looked at it on the internet and it was the last one, the last place to rent. So we rented it, sort of sight unseen, but I had kind of seen it when I was there before. We rented it, sort of sight unseen, but I had kind of seen it when I was there before. And so we moved in and it was kind of like a postage stamp, like just four rooms. We really didn't have a living room but we did have our doors opened up to the ocean and you could hear it and see it and whales were out there and it was. And so now you got to remember we didn't really have a TV and if we did it, there was nothing in English, the.

Speaker 1: 58:53

Now you got to remember we didn't really have a TV and if we did, there was nothing in English. The only American we got West.

Speaker 2: 58:56

Wing and WWE, that was it, and only like on Friday or Saturday or something. And so we read to each other.

Speaker 1: 59:01

And we were reading. We read romance novels to each other, the Francine Rivers ones, you know like Redeeming Love.

Speaker 2: 59:07

Oh, my gosh Mark of the Lion.

Speaker 1: 59:13

But she's got one. She's got one called the Shofar Blue and blue as in B-L-E-W, not the color B-L-U-E.

Speaker 1: 59:19

And I felt like it was written about me. Wow, it really. It kind of was like oh gosh, man, I have. Not only have I been in the system, I have done this, have I been in the system? I have, I've done, I've done this, I've, I've, you know, I've taken the Lord's name in vain and misused my association for profit, and so I felt so gross about me. But over time, you know, I I asked the Lord for forgiveness and, um, you're looking at all these pictures with me. I'm like wow.

Speaker 2: 59:53

Wow, yeah, that really stuck Whoa full of your name on it.

Speaker 3: 59:57

That's right.

Speaker 1: 59:58

You've come a long way, that's right man, I'm such a changed man.

Speaker 3: 1:00:02

That's not what I was doing. No, no, wait, but that's funny.

Speaker 1: 1:00:05

So, anyways, we both. So she came to me and she's like I've been really praying and I feel like this is like this is for me. And I had been praying that same week for, like Lord, what do you want me to do? And I kind of felt like the Lord said, I want you to kind of redeem. But I got the sense that I was going to have to really lean in and figure out what God is really like for myself, totally. And then, you know, I got sick and chemo. We lost our deal.

Speaker 3: 1:00:38

And you know I lost the house in the flood.

Speaker 1: 1:00:40

I mean, I was like here, I'll help you with that. Yeah, You're like oh, but I did. I mean, I feel like I did see, you know, the other, some other side of God, but side of God. But now this stuff, when we see it, it really makes me upset, because I'm like man, this is not. I don't think this is what Jesus was talking about when.

Speaker 2: 1:01:09

If listen, if these people want to worship and do that. I think it's great to worship over a place and you know to pray. Do it. Walk around with your headphones on worship and pray yeah we don't need to take over the square yeah, right, there is a.

Speaker 3: 1:01:18

There are scriptures about making a spectacle of it. I mean, I don't know about the going the sleep angry scripture, but I do know there's one about how do you know? Let me quote some scriptures, guys. I was a pastor for 20 years. I know my Bible, just not that one you focus more on the New Testament.

Speaker 2: 1:01:35

I was a creative guy. We didn't emphasize theology.

Speaker 3: 1:01:38

This is cool shit. What did you say? This is cool shit, did you?

Speaker 2: 1:01:46

just drop a cuss word.

Speaker 1: 1:01:47

Sorry, we're at the bleep it Also in Franklin of all places, if somebody wants to find a place to go sing. I mean, there are so many churches here, Just find one.

Speaker 2: 1:01:58

Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3: 1:01:58

I mean I I do like the violin guy on the corner though.

Speaker 2: 1:02:01

Well, that's different.

Speaker 3: 1:02:02

Rocking out.

Speaker 2: 1:02:03

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:02:06

He's it's. Even if you see it, you can't allow yourself to see it when you're in it because of the ramifications it means for your life. I just saw this thing going viral online about, as a megachurch pastor basically defending megachurch pastors. I'm like, well, of course you are, you're one of them, you're defending them.

Speaker 3: 1:02:24

And I'm not saying they're all bad, but I'm just saying I had all those similar thoughts that I couldn't allow myself to have when I was in it, because this was my livelihood, this is how I provided for my family, supported my family, and then, now that I'm out of it, it's really easy for me to look back at my former life or look back on those things and be like, oh man, and find the wrong in it, but I don't have anything to lose now, there's nothing at stake. The wrong in it, but I don't have any. I don't have anything to lose now, there's nothing at stake. Yeah, so it's. I have a lot of empathy for people who are in industries where there is a tension that they're managing yeah and it's really hard to make the decision.

Speaker 3: 1:03:03

Most people don't do it outside of pain or a lot or something. I mean, I was just talking to a friend this last week and she desperately wants to not be doing what she's doing in the church. I'm like, well, then leave. And she's like, I can't.

Speaker 2: 1:03:15

I'm like why?

Speaker 3: 1:03:16

she's like well, I guess got too much. I'm like you don't understand, you can't, you can't. There is a path for you to go do something else if you want to. I'm not saying everyone doing that is bad. I'm happy that there's vocational pastors doing that. But, um, yeah, it's, it's, I think, offering I have to offer myself a lot of grace. So I'm like, yeah, there's a lot of years where I did not believe in what I was doing, but I was still doing it out of self-preservation.

Speaker 2: 1:03:39

Right.

Speaker 1: 1:03:40

I don't know that. That's what.

Speaker 2: 1:03:42

That's different.

Speaker 1: 1:03:42

That's not what we're talking about here. I mean, we're talking about people who are being it feels like it's pretty showy.

Speaker 3: 1:03:50

It's a flex. I get what you mean.

Speaker 1: 1:03:53

Oh, there you go.

Speaker 2: 1:03:54

I just got caught on something. I wondered what this was about.

Speaker 1: 1:03:56

Well, that's the sign for-.

Speaker 2: 1:03:58

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Speaker 1: 1:03:59

Yeah, your helmet's out of whack your helmet.

Speaker 2: 1:04:05

I can't help it. I have a helmet I love this hair, I mean-. Listen to him.

Speaker 1: 1:04:09

I think it looks great. Digging back out of the hole. Oh, that's our new theme song Digging back out of the hole.

Speaker 3: 1:04:17

I love this hair. That's her podcast name. That's her podcast.

Speaker 1: 1:04:20

Alright, everybody, we're at an hour.

Speaker 2: 1:04:22

Good cause I have to go to the pot.

Speaker 1: 1:04:24

We will be back next week With another fun filled episode. I've got a good question For us to talk about.

Speaker 3: 1:04:29

Try not to be quiet next time. Next week question for us to talk about. Um next week we uh, you're gonna tease it, or do they have to show up to know what?

Speaker 1: 1:04:33

it is yeah, they gotta show up. Um, we are, like I said, gonna have those guests. Um, I started a sub stack. I'd love for you to join me on that. It's just, I think you just, I think you just search me and I'm there, um, and then, uh, there was. Oh. Yeah, I have have two clients who are coming off and so I've got space for two more clients. If you'd like to do some spiritual direction and emotional care and some soul work with me, I would love to have you. You can just DM me on Instagram or Jeremy Dibler that's Jeremy with an O, dibler with an E-I.

Speaker 2: 1:05:10

Just look behind him.

Speaker 1: 1:05:11

Yeah, just right there At mecom's. Jeremy with an O Dibler with an E-I Just look behind him. Yeah, just right there Atmecom. So just atme and we can talk through this stuff you can buy books. If you still trust me, I also am a yeah, I'm a prolific, prolific writer. I think I'm on the Amazon seller list. I think I'm at like 175,000th selling.

Speaker 2: 1:05:30

Oh, I was like 175,000th selling. Oh, I was like 175th.

Speaker 1: 1:05:32

That's crazy 175,000 people ahead of me.

Speaker 2: 1:05:37

You're on the bestseller list At Onyx Top 200,000. Yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:05:43

We have this really classy shop in Franklin that carries my books.

Speaker 3: 1:05:47

How do I get on your email list? That's what I care about. You have great emails.

Speaker 1: 1:05:51

Well, I turned it all over to Substack, so you'll be getting them. So that's where the emails are going now.

Speaker 2: 1:05:55

Yeah, I took the summer off, I just you know.

Speaker 1: 1:05:57

But I mean, yeah, evidently Substack's kind of the place to go.

Speaker 2: 1:06:02

You could do an email list too, yeah, well, that's it.

Speaker 1: 1:06:05

I mean, that's what happens there, and so, yeah, so I'd love for you to, I'd love for you to join me there. Jennifer is. This is my Jenstagram. That's how you can get ahold of her. She's on one space only. That's Instagram.

Speaker 2: 1:06:21

Yes, and I'm being good. You cleaned up your act a little bit Listen, and it has been tough, as we talked about.

Speaker 3: 1:06:28

It's been a big summer. You have done a lot less.

Speaker 2: 1:06:29

I'm doing less. I'm just doing funny stuff. I'm not being controversial.

Speaker 1: 1:06:33

Well, our pastor preached about it on Sunday Conviction. I thought it was really good.

Speaker 2: 1:06:37

Not really.

Speaker 1: 1:06:41

I think, Jennifer I don't know about conviction Maybe just like a should, a shouldn't Like, maybe a guilt thing it's more of guilt.

Speaker 2: 1:06:48

Yeah, it's more of the devil. Whatever moves you Do, it's more of guilt.

Speaker 3: 1:06:50

Yeah, it's more from the devil.

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What a nice guy yeah, really I mean just salt of the earth enneagram six.

Speaker 1: 1:07:38

You know I want to be friends with him. I think you know what you could be. Um, he doesn't come out, uh, on weekends or at night. He goes home and works in the yard.

Speaker 2: 1:07:47

That's his favorite thing I see him downtown franklin. He eats out almost every lunch.

Speaker 3: 1:07:52

He'll start showing up wherever he eats lunch.

Speaker 2: 1:07:57

Teop. He likes Teop, I love Teop.

Speaker 1: 1:07:59

I'm a regular. She called me a regular. I've never been at Teop.

Speaker 2: 1:08:02

We've never been there, I know.

Speaker 1: 1:08:04

Is it the slimy drinks?

Speaker 2: 1:08:06

It's the boba. Yeah, they have boba. I like to pee we need to wrap it. Excited.

Speaker 1: 1:08:10

I pee. Maybe we should do a live from. Teop. Well, either that or you know. I did think we should take this podcast on the road.

Speaker 3: 1:08:16

That would be fun.

Speaker 2: 1:08:17

That would be fun. Yeah, how would we do that? The Gospel According to Jeremy Cross America Tour. I am so into that.

Speaker 1: 1:08:24

So we could do it in people's houses, and then we could play oh I'm loving this DM if you're interested. We can't let Hutch get bigger than us.

Speaker 2: 1:08:35

Oh, he's already way bigger than us, babe, oh we're going to have Hutch back on For sure.

Speaker 1: 1:08:39

That would be cool, yeah, so You're now Well, anyway. Well, could we do that Could? We do like Could this be a? That's what I'm saying. Could this be a date? Could they meet on the podcast? We could have those kids on.

Speaker 2: 1:08:52

We could have these kids on we could have both groups Arranged marriages statistically work.

Speaker 3: 1:08:57

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1: 1:08:57

No cap how tall is she?

Speaker 2: 1:08:59

How tall is she?

Speaker 3: 1:09:00

That's going to be our issue. Which one are you talking about, emery or Grace?

Speaker 2: 1:09:04

I don't know Whichever one you've talked be good for Hutch.

Speaker 3: 1:09:06

What size are you looking for? What size are you looking for? What size daughter are you?

Speaker 2: 1:09:10

talking. Who was the one that?

Speaker 3: 1:09:20

I don't know how old is Hutch again 21.

Speaker 2: 1:09:23

I think it was your oldest daughter.

Speaker 1: 1:09:24

It was.

Speaker 3: 1:09:24

Grace that we were talking about because she's 20. We need to have Grace on then.

Speaker 1: 1:09:27

Okay, okay, she wears a lot of makeup, nope Okay.

Speaker 2: 1:09:30

Okay, that's the deal breaker for Hutch. He doesn't like, he likes all natural. Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 1: 1:09:37

Megan Wood's coming on. She's a pretty big.

Speaker 2: 1:09:40

Is she coming on? Yeah, is it happening.

Speaker 1: 1:09:42

Yep. Truth is I am a what you fall off, I do, I know it Father's child.

Speaker 3: 1:09:49

Yeah, you got it More of a melody Written with Matthew freaking West.

Speaker 2: 1:09:52

Matthew freaking West. Where isn't Matthew West?

Speaker 1: 1:09:55

He's everywhere.

Speaker 2: 1:09:56

He's everywhere I love Matthew.

Speaker 3: 1:09:58

He's a fellow CPA guy. I see him on CPA games.

Speaker 2: 1:10:00

Yes, he is.

Speaker 3: 1:10:01

Matthew is. We don't know each other and we don't talk, but I see him.

Speaker 1: 1:10:05

He's great observation that our little quaint town has become like the cops have to have that thing that goes up like a lifeguard stand with the guy with the rifle in it to make sure everybody's okay I mean it's, I would rather franklin honestly have like a hutch, though like bring in someone that was kind of like local and vibey and matthew, that whole thing starts to feel very commercial, yeah but. I think it's on the crowds well that's what franklin wants I'm running for mayor.

Speaker 2: 1:10:33

He's running for mayor future mayor franklin two years yep and I'll be behind.

Speaker 1: 1:10:37

Support you with my puppet strings 100 yeah, I mean I think I've got certain votes, I've got um. I mean that there is. There are segments that will definitely I think. Vote for me now. I don't in franklin, I don't know how big they are as part of the they're very tiny segments. I mean, I think I'll definitely get some of the female vote. I get the gay vote for sure.

Speaker 2: 1:10:57

Those calves baby.

Speaker 1: 1:10:58

That's right. So I don't know, we'll see. You know, I think I'm going to run for mayor. You heard it here.

Speaker 3: 1:11:06

Hey, I have to pee.

Speaker 1: 1:11:07

Oh, my gosh Alright let's pee and everybody, we'll see you next week, bye, bye.