The Gospel According to Jeromy
Welcome to "The Gospel According to Jeromy" podcast, where faith, humor, and heartfelt stories collide in a lively conversation about life, love, and everything in between. Join your host Jeromy Deibler, along with co-hosts Jennifer Deibler and Drew Powell, as they share the Dieblers journey from being the acclaimed Christian band FFH to their current path in spiritual direction.
In this engaging and candid podcast, Jeromy, Jennifer, and Drew offer a unique blend of perspectives on spirituality, mental health, emotional well-being, and personal growth. Drawing from their extensive experiences on the road and life's ups and downs, they explore the joys and challenges of faith, all while sprinkling in some humor along the way.
Get ready for spirited debates, deep dives into controversial thoughts, and heartwarming memories as they invite you into their world of faith, questions, and spiritual exploration. Whether you're a longtime believer, a spiritual seeker, or simply someone looking for meaningful conversations, "The Gospel According to Jeromy" podcast has something for everyone.
Tune in to join the conversation, laugh, learn, and be inspired as Jeromy, Jennifer, and Drew navigate the twists and turns of life's spiritual journey. It's a podcast that's as diverse as their experiences and as authentic as their hearts. Subscribe today and embark on a captivating exploration of faith, laughter, and the adventure of the human spirit.
The Gospel According to Jeromy
Shoutouts and Callouts
What happens when a podcast initially designed for soul care takes on a life of its own, transforming into a whirlwind of humor and unexpected conversations? Join us for an anniversary celebration like no other, as Jeremy, Jennifer, and our producer Drew Powell look back at the year and a half of delightful chaos on "The Gospel According to Jeremy." We’re talking about everything from spontaneous tangents and candid reflections to a bizarre tale of a plane crash with no casualties. This episode offers more than just laughs; it captures the relatable chaos of raising a teenager, especially when Jeremy realizes how much his 17-year-old mirrors his experiences with Jennifer.
The celebration doesn’t stop there. We’re also marking 30 years of marriage, exploring the complexities and joys of long-term relationships with quirky anecdotes like our unforgettable visit to O'Charley's in Franklin. As we share stories of marital milestones and the shifting dynamics brought by Jennifer’s arrival and Drew’s periodic resignations, listeners get an insight into our evolving podcast journey. Prepare yourself for a ride through three decades of life and love, packed with humor, insight, and a promise of many more spontaneous exchanges to come.
oh man, welcome everybody back oh my god, don't you love the sound of that music thank you. Yes, I love it, thank you dabbler the intro music.
Speaker 1:I'm back here again with my friends on the Gospel According to Jeremy. Just a real quick heads up for the people that haven't listened to the podcast before Quick 20 seconds. I met our producer, drew Powell, several years ago. We did a little bit of Soul Care together. Drew said, hey, you should probably do a podcast. We decided after about a year we decided to do it. We thought about a different co-host and I said, well, actually maybe Jennifer should come on with me. And after I got to know Drew which probably was our last meeting Drew and I together I was like you know what, you need to do it with us. So we decided we would do eight.
Speaker 2:Drew's more important than I am.
Speaker 1:We decided to do eight episodes, and here we are, a year and a half later.
Speaker 2:Thank you, it's been a year and a half.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's crazy. Wow, Thank you all of you.
Speaker 3:It doesn't feel like that because we just disappear periodically with no mention.
Speaker 1:Still, you two have never seen each other, except for once outside of this podcast.
Speaker 3:We did, we had one.
Speaker 2:Oh, we saw each other at Onyx that day.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, that too. What's the other one? Oh, we did have that coffee with Jamie the four of us, the four of us and we.
Speaker 2:But we were on topic that day. We didn't talk about anything to do with the podcast.
Speaker 1:We broke for Christmas, the holidays, and then we never came back, and then we've been busy and we stopped there.
Speaker 3:We got lives.
Speaker 1:We got jobs.
Speaker 3:I want to hear what's going on with you guys. I don't even know.
Speaker 1:Same here. I want to hear what's going on with Drew. I a little bit know what's going on with Jennifer.
Speaker 2:Some Some, but we have-.
Speaker 1:I keep things secret from you. We've got two young people in the house today. Uh, as we were coming on the air, I think, a plane crashed upside down, um, so that's happening right now did you know that?
Speaker 2:no, yeah, well, no, it didn't crash upside down, but it crashed and it is upside down on the runway oh, like a actual like yeah, but nobody but they lived no casualties as of now, just some people in critical condition.
Speaker 3:Like a commercial plane. Yeah, oh, wow 80 people.
Speaker 2:That just happened. Air Canada.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I've been thinking a lot about how we should do this podcast. Not just this one, but, continuing on this year, I've got some segments in mind.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:If this is your first, the Gospel. According to Jeremy experience, the reason I named it that is because I was thinking that we would talk about some soul care specific stuff.
Speaker 3:We kind of hijacked that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, which I'm actually thinking I could call this podcast Hijacked or Derailed. I've gotten a lot of pushback about this being called the Gospel, according to Jeremy it's not so much anymore.
Speaker 3:We kind of ran those people off we did.
Speaker 1:There were specific people that were like no, I can't ever listen to this. We don't really do gospel though, well, we do, we tried.
Speaker 2:We don't necessarily do good news.
Speaker 1:I attempted to do that.
Speaker 2:A lot of negativity.
Speaker 1:We are. I am going to continue, at least for the time being, trying to bring some topics in to this, like I have one for today Good.
Speaker 2:I do have one for next week. We'll get you putting thought into it.
Speaker 1:Yes, I will attempt to launch those topics into the room.
Speaker 2:Okay, can I ask a question?
Speaker 1:Wait, can I keep?
Speaker 2:going with the intro. Yeah, it's a long one today.
Speaker 3:So intro yeah, it's a long one today.
Speaker 1:So, by the way, this is what she does. I need what's called derailed. Well, she doesn't want to be in charge of anything. She wants to control it from this, from just behind, from the.
Speaker 2:Yeah do you know that I'm sitting right here?
Speaker 3:have you ever done it like tandem bicycle with her before?
Speaker 1:yes, but I'm in the back.
Speaker 2:That's not true, that is the truth.
Speaker 1:We did it and I was in the back.
Speaker 2:Really, I drove, I don't believe that's true. Yes, I don't think we ever. I think you're talking about an ex-girlfriend.
Speaker 1:I am. It was your other wife. I am currently raising. I'm seeing that I've got a 17 year old in that room that I'm raising and this is what it was like to raise jennifer.
Speaker 2:Like I wish I could go back to my father-in-law and go ah, I get it now I get it yeah well I remember no wonder sadie is so awesome my father-in-law sat me down when we were engaged you're not done with your intro. We don't need to talk about this.
Speaker 1:And he said Jeremy, listen, I need to tell you something. I was like okay, I think I was still calling him Mr Else at the time. I said, okay, mr Else, he goes. Listen, jennifer's never going to do anything you tell her to do. No, he didn't he said you're just going to have to say what you want to say and let her decide it for herself. That's great advice she's never going to listen to what you're telling her to do has that rang true through the years.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 30 years. That's not true. This year we will celebrate 30?. Yeah, no, wait. Yeah, no, we did.
Speaker 2:No, it's this November.
Speaker 1:November it's 30. 30. It's the one coming up. Yeah, how long are you and Jamie?
Speaker 3:Oh, man, I knew you were going to ask me that we got married. So this is 25. So this will be 24 for us. Man, we're married at 01.
Speaker 1:Isn't it crazy though.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is crazy.
Speaker 1:How you can be married to someone for 30 years and still be newly angry at them.
Speaker 2:Like yeah, be like remember you told me I could never make you angry. I know I did the week we met we met and went to um. Oh, Charlie's down here in Franklin.
Speaker 1:And she was like I made you mad, didn't I? I was like actually, I don't think you could ever make me mad. Has that rang true?
Speaker 2:I've been working on that ever since.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:Challenge accepted.
Speaker 1:Anyway. So what happened was? Jennifer came in to the podcast. Drew, I and Jennifer seemed to have this power triangle thing going on. Then we started bringing guests.
Speaker 3:Drew quit thrice over the past three years, was it three times? I quit? I never fully quit. No, you did quit once, okay, one time. Yeah, I remember where I was at when I fully quit.
Speaker 1:No, you did quit once.
Speaker 3:Okay, one time. Yeah, I remember where I was at when I called you. It's hard to quit me.
Speaker 2:It really is. I tried to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, seven years in.
Speaker 2:No, I tried to break up with you and we were dating.
Speaker 1:Yes you did so, and then you a little bit.
Speaker 1:We talked about a quit Seven years in, about to quit seven years, ten years, then was it ten, yeah um, I think that was coming from your side a little bit too, you just needed a break we both were pretty much toast I don't think we would have ever done it, but the words did get launched out there and our counselors were like don't do it, you guys, because plus there wasn't this headline like nobody just retired I mean, but just forget, they were like I think the euphoria of you guys being apart well, my counselor told me I think the autonomy will feel too good.
Speaker 2:Don't separate she's like, if you separate, you'll like it a lot I'd love to give it a shot.
Speaker 3:It sounds great.
Speaker 1:It was never gonna be a like separate to stay separated.
Speaker 3:It was like you guys had some time away a little therapeutic separation, neither of us ever lived alone.
Speaker 2:I think that was a lot of it. We both went right from parents and so she was just like you'll like being on your own. You've never done that. It wasn't that he was so horrible.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:So then she was like you'll like being alone.
Speaker 3:I'm glad you guys stuck it out. I wouldn't be here right now if it wasn't for that.
Speaker 2:You might be. Well, I mean, I'd be alive, I just wouldn't be in this house. It's not like we gave birth to you, no yeah, Thanks Mom and Dad, I wouldn't be here right now You'd be here.
Speaker 3:You'd still be here.
Speaker 2:I'd be here, you'd probably still be in In their frog. Sorry, that was goofy.
Speaker 1:We digress Front room above the garage. Is that what it is? Family room.
Speaker 2:Fuck it.
Speaker 1:Frog room.
Speaker 2:Isn't it a frog?
Speaker 3:Front room over the garage. You guys have a name for it. I never heard of it. Somebody said it Boney ass.
Speaker 1:room is what you guys call it, Boney ass yeah, so to our listeners, I've got two topics prepared, one for this week and then one for next week and so we've had all these. I mean, seriously, we've gotten texts. I didn't know people listened to this that much. I didn't either. And then I mean I got, hey, where's the podcast? Seriously, I got an actual phone call you did From the. You know, there's a phone number listed.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:There is.
Speaker 1:Somebody said are you doing the podcast? When can I find it? Kind of thing.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Thank you, person that called yeah.
Speaker 1:So we've got, I got a topic for this week and for next, and then I've also got this other segment I want to do every week, where I'm calling it call outs and shout outs. And you got to, you got to have two. Now you can have two. Yeah, you can have two. Yeah, you can have two call-outs, or you can have two shout-outs, or one of each.
Speaker 2:Oh, you don't have to have one of each, no.
Speaker 1:So if you're really mad, you can have two call-outs. The shout-outs are going to be things that happened to us, that we're like, hey, I had this thing happen.
Speaker 2:Good things right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, stuff that's like man, this restored my faith in humanity, kind of like.
Speaker 3:This is awesome. Oh my gosh, that's a big— Lots are going to be a chance to go hey, I'm mad about this.
Speaker 1:Like this thing happened, I just want to call out—.
Speaker 2:Can we call out family members?
Speaker 1:Well, that's up to you.
Speaker 2:Probably not a good idea, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean that— Probably not a good idea. You mean like people in this house.
Speaker 2:Possibly Well, that's safe yeah they don't listen.
Speaker 1:That's true. I hit a $50 Easter egg last season in one of the episodes and I told my kids if you can just tell me the minutes and seconds when I mention that I will give you $50.
Speaker 2:And they never attempted to even go find it.
Speaker 3:One got a job instead.
Speaker 1:I'd rather work.
Speaker 2:I would rather work for the man than go find it.
Speaker 1:Sadie Claire got a job when there was $50.
Speaker 2:She said it is not worth it.
Speaker 1:Wow, wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's brutal.
Speaker 2:Why do we have tacks and scissors sitting here?
Speaker 1:I put up the flag with these. I put up a lot of these posters?
Speaker 2:Are they in the shot? Nobody can see those, babe. They're not in the shot.
Speaker 1:No, Okay, good because they're ugly. So we're going to do shout-outs and call-outs, which will lead to some conversation.
Speaker 2:Okay, and then we'll do the topic we're never going to get to a topic.
Speaker 1:So I've got two topics. You guys pick which ones you want to do this week.
Speaker 2:It's never going to happen.
Speaker 1:The first one of the topics we're going to do is the positive effects of venting that's one of the topics okay and the other one is change equals loss.
Speaker 2:So those are the two change equals loss.
Speaker 1:Wow, yeah okay, gosh, so which one? You well, you guys can think about that. Let's do shout outs and call outs um. Anyways, that that was for review for those of you who fast forwarded through, put us on warp speed. You can back it down now to um 1x or whatever that 1.5 is that what people?
Speaker 3:that's what you listen on I?
Speaker 2:listen on one. I just listen normal just normal regular speed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, that's probably good yeah, do you listen to podcast on one and a half?
Speaker 3:depending on what kind of podcast it is, if I'm just, if I'm just wanting the content yeah and I don't want to enjoy it.
Speaker 2:Then just yeah, just give it to me quick I was listening to one today that was so boring.
Speaker 1:She got me on when all the election stuff was going on. She turned me on to Ben Shapiro and his life is 1.5.
Speaker 2:Listen. You could never listen to Ben Shapiro on 1.5.
Speaker 3:Because he talks so fast yeah.
Speaker 2:I've tried and it is. You cannot hear the words. They go by so fast.
Speaker 1:And I listened to this other podcast called making sense and I can't remember.
Speaker 3:The guy's brilliant, but he is on point five that his life is.
Speaker 1:No, he's like hi and welcome to making sense and I'm like speed it up, I'm out, I'm asleep, yeah, yeah, um yeah, I can.
Speaker 3:I don't know something. I'm gosh. I just think I just had a seizure um sorry, welcome back a little little stroke there. It's not funny for those of us who have strokes.
Speaker 2:It's not funny. No stroking humor here.
Speaker 3:I'm curious what your life has been like since the election.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's just been like a birthday every day, has it?
Speaker 3:been everything you hoped it would be, because you really fought hard for that.
Speaker 2:I've been really excited about it.
Speaker 3:And RFK just got what happened Sworn in about it and rfk just got what happened sworn in, confirmed. Yeah, so you're just, you're just. Are you? Are you unbearable to be around like in public right now? You?
Speaker 2:just go up to people and say, maga no, I don't, uh it's do.
Speaker 3:I talk about it a lot I was just curious if you're like living in in the fullness of it or if you've kind of cooled off now that it's like happened. You're just like all right, now I'm normalized or you know, I'm super excited about it yeah and it's fun to hear the stuff that happens every day.
Speaker 2:There's so much news every day, super exciting um, you went to work.
Speaker 1:We don't watch the news, though.
Speaker 2:Really I mean no, I usually listen to podcasts and then but yeah, we don't watch if. If I watch news, surprisingly I watch CNN, which is so funny.
Speaker 3:Just to get yourself feeling something.
Speaker 2:It's like cutting.
Speaker 1:You don't watch all.
Speaker 2:I just need to feel something.
Speaker 3:Okay, wow, there it is.
Speaker 2:Or I mean, that's what you go to MSNBC for. If you just need to punish yourself, what?
Speaker 1:He's a very distra's like he looks so upset.
Speaker 3:I'm just listening. He's like wow, he's a listening slash bracing.
Speaker 1:I mean I knew that you guys were gonna talk about this.
Speaker 3:I had to know oh yeah it's been good.
Speaker 2:I ran into John Mays funny. He's like where's the podcast? And he's like I of anybody, I would think you'd want to be talking right now. I'm like I'm so excited yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So we can talk about it. He and I talked about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not even with this. Typically, she's not a sore winner, whatever that is, yeah. She usually is like okay, she's not a rubber in her yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Wow, wow, I don't think that's sweet.
Speaker 2:That was wrong in all kinds of ways Rubber in her.
Speaker 1:She had not either. I was like are we going? To address that, let's just If there was ever a time to bleep, that would have been it. Is our memory stick running?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's rolling, Okay stop, all right, so no, I can't, you don't have. Hey, listen we don't have that.
Speaker 1:I've never had a name for.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:The joke was at the beginning of this. I said, Drew, do you have a memory stick?
Speaker 2:No, this is not appropriate.
Speaker 1:Somehow, you and I made it inappropriate, I just had nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2:Oh no, you would never be inappropriate.
Speaker 3:I mean I was engaging with what you're saying, but that was fully your creative process.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, that has not been ever part. Now I did have a friend in high school who he had his. He named his.
Speaker 3:Russell Russell.
Speaker 1:Yes, because the long name was, it's Russell the Love Muscle. That was his name for his. You know, I didn't have one Jokes. Yeah, mine's just utilitarian.
Speaker 3:I had a friend that named his Missy. It was like a joke.
Speaker 2:That's terrible.
Speaker 3:That is a terrible name, Because then he would say when he got excited he said he had tattooed the name Missy on his oh and then he would say when he got excited it says Mississippi State University. I wonder where that was going it was his ongoing.
Speaker 2:Have you not ever heard a joke about that? He had his wife involved in it too,
Speaker 3:So he would be like, yeah, what's? And she would play into the joke.
Speaker 2:That's great, that's good.
Speaker 1:I was just thinking pipe down, Missy, it's not your. Why is that boy? What is he?
Speaker 2:Pipe down, missy. It's not time for you. Missy, relax Down boy. That's a good one. Yeah we don't have that. Why did this even?
Speaker 1:Well, because you're not a rubber in her.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, okay, I can't talk about it in front of Certain people in this house, so A house divided. A house sort of divided.
Speaker 3:No, not divided.
Speaker 2:Not divided, just annoyed with it.
Speaker 1:A house on. Okay, so she really cares about it. I care about it when it needs to be cared about. Those two do not want to hear about it.
Speaker 2:Oh, one of them doesn't care, One of them is repulsed by it. Oh, okay, so I can't bring it up.
Speaker 1:All of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:All of it Just doesn't like any, yeah, just.
Speaker 2:He's kind of repulsed by America in general. Well, no, he's not.
Speaker 1:He's not repulsed, he's not one of, he's not a, he's not, he's American. He's American, but he kind of it's more of a punchline, got it. You know it's too cliche, that's what it is. It's cliche which is disgusting. But you know he's about to buy a car and he, you know, he's just what. I don't know if you can tell an enneagram number before a person's like in their mid-20s, but he needs it to fit him and so like his, his car, just oh, my gosh died and he's gonna buy like an 83 for uh f-150 because you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:It doesn't fit him, which is so funny he also likes the irony of it being a truck. He said I kind of want to take a left turn here and get something that's not really me but is it feels very foreign, it matters to him though you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:The aesthetic of the car you drive.
Speaker 1:Yes, and you know my mom it's weird, because I care about cars too my mom Shout out hey Mom, Mom doesn't care, you know what I mean? She doesn't. She didn't really even know what she drove. She drives a Kia Sorento and told me that she got a Kia Sombrero. Yeah, Close, yeah.
Speaker 2:It's an.
Speaker 1:S word she doesn't care, but do you care? You care.
Speaker 2:Drew, you definitely care about your car. You're an artist, I do care.
Speaker 3:I do care, but I don't trade up. I've got certain things that I like about a car that I drive, but then once I have those things, I can drive it forever.
Speaker 1:I don then, once I have, those things, I can drive it forever I don't need to trade it around.
Speaker 3:I hate going. I hate trading cars. Actually, you don't like haggling? No gosh, I'll pay you extra.
Speaker 2:If I don't have to do that, man, I will go haggle for both of y'all that would be great it's like I would let you know I hate that stuff.
Speaker 3:I just bought a new truck last year or not even last year, but not too long ago and I'll probably just drive that one for good brand new. I bought a brand new. I'm just like I'll just drive. It's got the things that I like in it and I'm like yeah, you know, brand new is.
Speaker 1:I never had a brand new car till California and uh, because dad was in cars and he would always say you know, depreciate as soon as you drive it, and blah, blah, blah he also said never to lease a car yeah, and. I leased cars in California well, I mean, we know Dave Ramsey, we've been friends for a long time, and so I'd have to lie to Dave Ramsey. But I liked the leasing, did you? I really?
Speaker 2:did, it was great, but at the end of it I don't like that. At the end you don't have something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it works if you've got this income that you know you're going to have the same check every two weeks, right, it's almost a peace of mind kind of thing. It's like this is what I pay for my car and I don't ever pay more. Don't ever pay, you know.
Speaker 2:Plus the deals that I got were insane.
Speaker 3:For leasing.
Speaker 2:For leasing, I mean.
Speaker 3:I know a lot of people that lease, that own their own businesses and stuff for tax reasons and whatnot. I looked into it but it wasn't going to save me much or anything, but there's ways to do it.
Speaker 2:The lease deals aren't out there anymore. Gotcha, when I leased my two cars, the lease deals were over the top, I mean-.
Speaker 3:Well she got-. How do you see out of your glasses? They're really dirty.
Speaker 2:Are they dirty? I feel like they're dirty.
Speaker 1:Yeah, while you're cleaning, they are great. So she leased a car out in California, a little Buick, and it was really cute.
Speaker 2:A little Encore the lease deal was great.
Speaker 1:I want to say it was like $199 or something.
Speaker 2:It was Dang, it was loaded.
Speaker 1:So the lease was over, and so she went into the dealership and wanted to get another lease.
Speaker 2:Another Buick.
Speaker 1:I love the Buick and so she somehow upgraded to the next Buick, a little bigger. I still never have had a car this nice Leather, I mean it was loaded.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the only thing it didn't do was rub my back.
Speaker 1:I mean, it was insanely loaded, I would just take it and drive around.
Speaker 3:Anyways, she basically camped out in that dealership until the manager said yeah, I think I've heard a version of this story, the manager was like what do I got to do To make you leave?
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, I did. I stayed in there every day and he was not joking.
Speaker 1:I went in there one day and I was like oh he, legitimately is tired of it.
Speaker 3:What would you do while you were in there?
Speaker 2:Just sit there, just sit there, yeah.
Speaker 1:I admire that. I'll lease this car if you do this payment. And he came back $7 off.
Speaker 2:No no Four $4.
Speaker 3:And you were like no.
Speaker 2:Well, he came back with the paperwork. I said it's got to be under this number, $4 off Over. And he came back and I was like sorry.
Speaker 3:See, that's the part I hate about it. When I bought the truck same thing he See, that's the part I hate about it. When I bought the truck same thing he was like, hey, we got it down to where you need it to be. Just come back into the thing. I walked in there and it wasn't. I'm like you guys just wanted me back in the dealership.
Speaker 2:You're freaking liars.
Speaker 1:That's not what we discussed.
Speaker 2:Was it $4? I hate that. No it was probably $60. He looked at her and said that was what we agreed. Yeah, so we did. We did all the paperwork.
Speaker 1:I almost feel like though he knew your number. It was almost like I'm going to win.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm going to use this four bucks to win. Yeah, it sounds like we both were button heads.
Speaker 1:Crazy difference with your glasses.
Speaker 2:Is it better, by the way?
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah, I was just catching a side profile every once in a while and it was.
Speaker 2:Can you see me better?
Speaker 1:Yeah, hey, you in glasses. It's bad. Well, what's weird is I'm getting used to it now, when you take them off, I know I look weird. Yeah, I don't like that.
Speaker 2:Okay, what.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's so good.
Speaker 2:Oh, I wish I could see without them Okay.
Speaker 1:So call out Okay, um, over the break. Uh, somebody sent me a check, not a huge check, but a check. They had my address wrong. Either I had sent them the wrong address or it was off by a couple of digits. The Johnson city, tennessee, postmaster. It was returned to him. He got on the internet. Got on the internet, googled me, looked me up, sent me an email through. It might have been this Sent me an email saying I think I got a returned letter for you. He didn't know what it was. Can you confirm the address? I confirmed the address. He redid it, sent it to me.
Speaker 1:Above and beyond Above and beyond, above and beyond. That's pretty great. It is unbelievable, johnson.
Speaker 3:City, Tennessee. That's where my mom's from.
Speaker 2:Okay, somebody Really Good people over there, good people there.
Speaker 1:I was like somebody, Like he, took the time to go.
Speaker 2:That's pretty amazing.
Speaker 1:And he didn't know it was a check. I mean it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, why would you do that for someone?
Speaker 1:I even said to him. I said this is crazy. He took a picture of it for me and the address was like a couple digits off. I got the check amazing.
Speaker 1:So yeah, so that man, way to go that's a shout out that's great way to go postmaster post and doesn't that though, like restore, yes, like it makes you go okay there are decent people in the world. Yeah, yeah, uh, call out real quick the, the twice daily near my house, which is, if you twice daily like a, it's a gas station, it's a quick trip kind of thing. Almost every time you go in there, I take my own cup, I take my BriBiz cup, which this is going to sound entitled. I know that this is. I know that this definitely is a.
Speaker 2:It is entitled.
Speaker 1:What do they call it? This is privilege, I know, but I almost I mean, I walk in there, I have this, I fill up with ice, up with ice, and then I just get some Diet Coke and I don't walk out with it. It's not like I'm going, I'm stealing this, but I go up to the register, show them and without fail, they're like oh dude, you're good To the point to where. It's like is this policy in here that I can just come in and do this Interesting?
Speaker 2:But you do. You go to the counter every time.
Speaker 1:I do and they always go. The twice daily is. The girl is now charging me $1.75.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:As like principal.
Speaker 2:For ice, for like a splash of ice. So they're doing that now. Well, not all of them, oh, but the one out here on Murfreesboro Road, that's my call out. You want to give out our address? No, are you at?
Speaker 1:it. I'm just saying and you're a regular in there- I mean so is it just the one lady? No, it's that store.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's their new policy of that store.
Speaker 3:Yeah, is that the spot where you hang out? Not anymore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not anymore.
Speaker 1:I mean Meredith, these, they're always like, dude, you're in here every day Pockets, they're like, nah, we got it and I, I buy stuff at these places. Yeah, I go up, I'm not stealing stuff, but this twice daily has lost a patron.
Speaker 2:Well they didn't lose a whole lot because you were just stealing soda Actually they've gained.
Speaker 3:They're making more money now that you've quit them.
Speaker 1:On the rare event. I need gas right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're not going to do it, not going to happen.
Speaker 1:No, do you have anything, babe?
Speaker 2:Well, mine's very similar. Call out no. Do you have anything, babe? Well, mine's very similar.
Speaker 1:Call out, shout out. Do you have a shout out?
Speaker 2:Something good? Well, not really, I mean.
Speaker 1:Nothing good over the past two months.
Speaker 2:I mean sure, okay. Well, I'm excited because MCC Milk Couture Co has just moved into a new office. So today was my first day in the new office and it was very nice.
Speaker 3:Oh cool.
Speaker 2:And we have an amazing pool, an amazing workout place that we can use whenever we want.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you were not on this episode, but you remember Joel Robertson.
Speaker 3:Yes, the movie maker guy His wife is a jeweler.
Speaker 1:Jennifer works for her a day or so a week and she's great.
Speaker 2:She's great and her jewelry is insanely pretty yeah. She's the one that makes jewelry out of like ashes, breast milk, all kinds of stuff, keepsake jewelry, keepsake stuff. Yeah, look her up on Instagram.
Speaker 1:It's not. I mean it's not weird too? Milk Couture Co yeah you got to call Well, mine is. I can't believe you even had a shout out.
Speaker 2:Well, you know, that was exciting. Mine is definitely Starbucks. They got that new CEO, I guess, and they've changed all of their policies.
Speaker 2:So, you go to Starbucks, you buy an ice cream tea. I would buy a Trenta ice cream tea, plain ice tea. $4.88 for an ice tea and $5.12 if you get it from downtown Franklin. So you can go if you have a gold card and get a refill for free. Well, now they've changed their policy where you have to. Well, they've always had the policy that you have to stay in the store, but now they'll only give refills if you have a glass from the store. So it has to be like a From that store from their place.
Speaker 2:They won't give it to you. Anyway, I'm like, fine, I'm not paying five bucks for a frickin' iced tea, I'll make my own. Bye. That's tough, I feel like, if you're going to charge me five bucks, I can come back for a refill. I agree.
Speaker 3:Even this coffee I got. This is just a plain Pike's Pike is terrible, it was terrible. It was all they had today and it was in the fives with tip Okay.
Speaker 2:I'm like that's crazy, that's a black coffee. Black coffee Black drip coffee.
Speaker 3:That is insane.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure it was in the fives you can go to Onyx and Alabaster and get good drip coffee for a lot cheaper than that.
Speaker 1:This may be the most privileged conversation I've ever been a part of.
Speaker 2:You think so?
Speaker 1:Well, there's three middle-aged white people complaining about not getting refills on their drinks.
Speaker 2:Listen, I don't mean to be that white woman, but I feel like that's a lot for an iced tea.
Speaker 3:Were you just teeing us up here? It's Jennifer.
Speaker 2:Don't do that.
Speaker 1:I don't like it either, but you are, I mean.
Speaker 2:Is that being a Karen?
Speaker 1:I don't like to use that word because our. Karens my experience with Karens has been good.
Speaker 2:I dated a Karen. She was great. You did date a Karen, my first girlfriend, karen, was shout out to Karen. Listen. Shout out to Karen. She may be a karen now.
Speaker 1:She could she lives in pennsylvania, she probably has the haircut I.
Speaker 3:How do those things happen? Like it's one real, like bad person, that someone called karen is stuck and everyone calls it.
Speaker 2:Now I think it's just the age of the woman and they just put a name to it. I don't know that. It was actually a person named karen got it because you got.
Speaker 3:You got the like, the chads and the brads and like these things. I'm just like that's so unfair.
Speaker 2:I think it's just an age. I'm shocked there's not a Jennifer. I mean they're going to do a Jennifer you got. Becky.
Speaker 1:Ridiculousness. The Rob Dyrdek show. He calls out Debs, Deb. He's like work it. Lay it down, flop down deb, he's funny he also does.
Speaker 2:Does he do mark, mark and brad? Big time mark and brad?
Speaker 1:yeah, brad's always like a, like a. What is it like a? Yeah, frat boy, he's also got a black co-host and yeah, I mean, and the he's cool, the black, yeah, he's a cool guy, yeah, and he always finds things in the videos that you didn't see the first round he's like you know, makes fun of himself, white dork. And then you got this really cool DJ Like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:He's cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, remember him and a big black.
Speaker 3:Did you ever watch that show? I didn't.
Speaker 2:We didn't ever watch it.
Speaker 3:Hilarious Big black.
Speaker 2:I've heard it's really a great show.
Speaker 1:White people have. We have this thing with black people, Like we know they're cool and we're never going to be that cool.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. It's sad.
Speaker 1:It kind of is. All my crushes are black usually. She went somewhere with that. Yeah, she's saying she's picturing some people.
Speaker 2:There was actually a specific person in there. There was a person she's picturing. Actually no rfk's not black. That's what I was just thinking very white, but he's tan like you yeah so I am very tan. I sent a don't do that, don't tell this. I'll talk to you about it later, maybe in the next episode about my podcast thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just I want to talk to you about it first.
Speaker 3:All right, so anyway shout out, call out, drew. Oh yeah, so my shout out. I've been doing a lot of traveling lately. Every week of this last month I've been traveling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why we haven't done a podcast it's a lot, that's not why, but it's his fault are you moving to denver?
Speaker 1:no, okay, no, no, no no, but I do love it out there.
Speaker 3:I've got some great clients out there now my shout out is I this is a yeah, check the thing we want to capture this.
Speaker 2:Make sure we get this out.
Speaker 3:Make sure we get this episode. Make sure my camera's on yes.
Speaker 2:Oh, I can do it.
Speaker 3:What's your shout out? What? Sorry, I can't. Are you a little distracted? Yeah, I can't watch him do this.
Speaker 2:I can't imagine why you'd be distracted. What's your shout out?
Speaker 3:all right. So my shout out is I was in the airport and I was sitting. I was having a little breakfast before my flight. I was sitting across from this young man okay and we.
Speaker 3:We struck up a conversation yeah and um, he just was, this incredibly charismatic, great personality, was flying to seattle to go visit his son that he hadn't spent much time with yet he was very young. So we struck up this conversation and there was just like I'm not this guy, but there was like this kind of connection. I was like man, we are supposed to be friends or something.
Speaker 3:So I had to leave to go to my gate. He was on the phone or whatever, and so I was just like I'm nc later. But turns out like 10 minutes later I'm doing some work and he shows up at my gate. Oh and I was like, and I look at him, we give a head nod and he comes over. So we sit down and we start, we continue our conversation a little bit, get to hear about some of the things he's dreaming about, some of his hopes and starting a business, and I just really felt like it was like man, I'm supposed to help this guy and whatever. So we struck up a friendship. He was on my plane to denver oh, he was on your plane.
Speaker 3:We sat next to each other the whole time developed a great friendship relationship. Now he lives in the pittsburgh area are you guys running away together? Kind of man kind of rush what's his name?
Speaker 3:his name is jeremy and he's See, I got a thing for Jeremy's and he. He is Wants to start Like a media company out there Helping real estate agents, like Like, basically Doing video and photos For real estate. And so I helped him buy his first camera and he's got. We're just working together. He's kind of like a partner now it's awesome. So that's my shout out is to Jeremy Nice, really great young dude Killing it up in Pittsburgh area.
Speaker 2:I gotta tell you Pittsburgh is hot right now.
Speaker 3:Is it?
Speaker 2:It is hopping.
Speaker 3:I didn't know that yeah.
Speaker 2:Pittsburgh is blowing up Like not literally.
Speaker 3:My call out is this is probably the most entitled thing is Southwest Airlines, not just the airlines, but specifically airlines internet oh has screwed me twice now why, how I booked my flight so that I can get a lot of work done.
Speaker 3:I get a lot of work done on flights, but I need the. I need wi-fi, sure. So I'm really frustrated when I pay the eight bucks and I'm on the plane and the wi-fi doesn't work and now I gotta sit there for two hours and watch a movie like an idiot instead of getting work done like I'm just sitting here, when I could do so many things and I'm overwhelmed because I got so much stuff.
Speaker 3:I had planned to do it on the plane in both flights. On my last trip there and back, the internet didn't do they credit you your money back? I wish you wouldn't ask that because, yes, they did, but still well, I thought you were gonna say I didn't ask.
Speaker 2:No, honestly, they at least you.
Speaker 3:On one of the legs one leg they didn't, because it kind of worked intermittently. So I think they were just like maybe it worked. But on the second leg, without me even asking, I got an email that said hey, it looks like that our internet didn't work, and so here's your eight bucks back.
Speaker 2:Well, good, well, that's good, so okay, maybe shout out Still when you plan on working. That's frustrating.
Speaker 1:Plus, you shouldn't, mark? I'm just kidding Mark, brad, shouldn't your Wi-Fi work better because you're so high? Like, are you closer? I thought you were going to say so hot, so satellite, or closer to the satellite, how?
Speaker 2:does Wi-Fi work? I really don't think it works like that?
Speaker 1:I don't think so either. Doesn't it come from?
Speaker 2:Because if you don't have, it's pinging from tower to tower to tower.
Speaker 3:You're flying past it. It's closer to the towers I think.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm not doing a bit here. I don't.
Speaker 2:I didn't think you were, I didn't think it was funny.
Speaker 3:If you were, it's a terrible bit.
Speaker 1:I thought cell phone stuff came from the sky. I mean I know it's towers, but I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do, but I don't know, Like wouldn't an airplane connect itself to no because I never.
Speaker 3:I know it's still hitting towers along the way. I never turn my phone off for an airplane mode when I'm on a plane.
Speaker 2:And that's why your battery goes low.
Speaker 3:I lose service.
Speaker 2:So your battery, because your phone working for verizon now also. Yeah, I've got another job, job number three cell phone stuff.
Speaker 1:Well, that's cool. Shout out to jeremy.
Speaker 2:That's shout out to jeremy yeah, I feel a little bit replaced. I feel completely replaced.
Speaker 3:I didn't connect the dots on that.
Speaker 1:He spells his name wrong, though with an e, he spells it the right way um sorry, grammy yeah, so I was actually thinking about this when you were talking Mm-hmm, if I was gay I would totally hang out with you, really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally Wait a minute. Does that mean you would want to date?
Speaker 1:him? No, but I'm just saying, if I was, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2:If I was gay or if you were gay, what kind of gay dude that I would empathize with If I was gay or if you were gay?
Speaker 1:If we were gay.
Speaker 2:If we were both gay, I know, but that sounds like you're saying you want to date him.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, I'm just saying that would be my type probably.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what, yeah, I mean, I love that.
Speaker 2:That doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 3:I'm actually flattered by that. Why? He said if he would be his type probably.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally that is weird, no, that's not weird.
Speaker 3:That's a compliment, it's great.
Speaker 2:Okay. So you're saying what about him?
Speaker 1:Tall, dark and handsome. No, I like it that he talks to people.
Speaker 2:Tall, pale and handsome. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:The personality yeah, it'd be interesting to be married to him.
Speaker 2:No, Jamie might disagree okay, look, I'm just learning something nothing to do with anything else like no I appreciate
Speaker 3:it memory sticks or anything like that no, maybe he's trying to tell something no I'm not, I'm just I I get what you're saying. Like there's people that you're like hey, if I was gay, yeah, totally, I would probably ask you out yeah, oh when he's. I've been asked out sort of oh yeah, you're you kind of I take it as a compliment. Very'm very attracted to you yeah well, I mean you right, but I will say though I will say I know what you mean and I have that feeling like I.
Speaker 1:I've thought that before you felt, but here's the thing the guy at the airport yeah no, I didn't.
Speaker 3:But I will say trust me, I didn't. But um, what was I gonna say? Dang it. I'm so sorry, I can cut you off. You said you felt that before oh what I was going to say is I don't have any idea what women think are attractive.
Speaker 2:With men or women and women With men.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, Not. Women and women. I would never in a million years put RFK in your top 100. Oh gosh, do you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying he's brilliant and he's, but that's my point and I don't care of himself.
Speaker 3:See, but yeah, I just would not.
Speaker 2:You know what, though? I've got weird things.
Speaker 1:There's also RFK Jr. And then there's the ideal, Like if you were married to him you might be like oh dear.
Speaker 2:Maybe he's not. He couldn't listen to that voice all day long. My gosh, poor guy. I get over it. I can't take it. Take that shirt off. I have to Then talk to me.
Speaker 3:Just make him whisper. Talk to me with your shirt off. He'd be like Jennifer.
Speaker 1:I don't think we should do that. I've had 18 affairs.
Speaker 3:That's actually a pretty good impersonation.
Speaker 2:He does a good job.
Speaker 1:He at 18. That's actually a stop now, good impersonation.
Speaker 3:He does a good job. He's been working on it. We played him we play rfk a lot? No, we don't yeah, but there's a lot of guys out there I'm like he was with cheryl because she's funny.
Speaker 2:He's really attracted to funny. He likes comedians rfk yeah because I don't think he has any sense of humor. How many times have you been?
Speaker 1:with dudes and been like oh, that's his. How did he score?
Speaker 3:her. Yeah, his humor is always top of the list. It has to be so, I my crush was David Letterman. See, exactly that's my point, I mean, and he doesn't it's.
Speaker 2:I thought he was cute because of his personality, so that was my celebrity crush girls, my daughters, they like not anymore as much, but they like that.
Speaker 3:What's that? Kid the guy from Twilight oh, gosh Pattinson. I call him Bob Pat Robert Pattinson yes. Bob Pat. They love Bob Pat he's so pale.
Speaker 2:I mean, I guess he was a vampire, but they loved him and anything he would do not so much anymore.
Speaker 3:I think they're phased out.
Speaker 2:But like yeah thing, he would do not so much anymore.
Speaker 3:I think they're phased out, but they're over. That one, bob pat, was a big one. I was like I don't see it funny.
Speaker 2:I mean, sadie likes this one boy and he is cute. I do, I can see it louis in real life louis, our celebrity guy. He's from some louis louis from one direction no, he's from enola holmes did you ever watch that? It's really cute with uh millie bobby brown yeah, but the boy in it is very cute and she likes him um, can I you just remind me of something I have to share with you guys.
Speaker 3:This is a big deal. I just, on my way here, dropped aj off at the movie theaters with his girlfriend for their first ever date oh my gosh, how do you feel about that? It was weird how old is he 14 at the end, like, okay, I'll be there to pick you up. Yeah, I gotta go after when we stop recording. I, oh my gosh, how do you feel about that? It was weird. How old is he 14. Okay, yeah, I gotta go when we stop recording.
Speaker 2:I gotta go get him.
Speaker 3:That reminds me and I had to drive like a chauffeur. They both sat in the back and made me drive like an idiot.
Speaker 2:Oh, you had to pick her up. No she yeah, she got dropped off at the house.
Speaker 3:It was the.
Speaker 2:So I met a young girl that's in theater with Sadie and she was like, oh, you know, drew. And I was like, yeah, she's like, well, my she's talking about her brother has autism, okay, and that your son played basketball with him and he was, and she was like he was so sweet to him.
Speaker 3:I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 2:That's so funny.
Speaker 3:So he is that family and that kid is the sweetest. Him, I know who you're talking about. That's so funny. So that he is that family and that kid is the sweetest.
Speaker 2:So I drafted him. She went on and on and on about your son and how kind he was to her brother. Can I?
Speaker 3:tell you a story about that.
Speaker 2:That, I think, is really special.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so AJ was probably one of the better players in the league.
Speaker 2:She said he's amazing.
Speaker 3:He's a good ball player Even then. This was a while back, but I drafted the team but I didn't know any of the kids that I drafted. So I'm drafting this team and I didn't know that I had picked a special needs kid to be on the team. But when?
Speaker 2:I got him, is he pretty severe, mm-hmm Okay.
Speaker 3:But when I got him and he's awesome, though, he's just so endearing when I got him on a team I felt so great. I was like I'm so glad that I picked this kid. Well, at the end of the and I've got the video at the end of the year, aj won the All-Star MVP thing. They give a medal to him and one other kid AJ chose during the ceremony to bring this kid up and give him his medal yes, that's what she told me, and so we've got video of him like taking off and they aj pal and he never claps for cheers for him.
Speaker 3:And then he brings um the kid up and takes his medal off and puts it around the kid's neck and everyone cheers for him. It was so sweet. I was so proud of him. It was beautiful. It was his idea that's so cool and another quick story at the end of the year. We're trying to get him to make a basket, and I didn't think this through because he just didn't make very I mean right he didn't make very many baskets.
Speaker 3:Well, it's the end of the end of the last game of the season. Aj goes down, rebounds and for him, for him, clears out. We tell the other team what's happening, so they kind of give him space. So AJ's rebounding for him and just giving him the ball back and forth and I'm sitting here thinking we could be here all day. I don't know that I've ever seen him make one. It could be, a minute.
Speaker 1:Right, right right.
Speaker 2:We didn't think this through but sure enough, I think it was like the second or third one it went in and the place went nuts. Oh, that's so cool and the family was super sweet. Did somebody have a video of it? Yeah, we got a video of it. Well, this girl, she was just like it was so funny, because I'm like how do you know that? I know, drew, I mean.
Speaker 3:Was it his sister then? Yeah, it was his sister.
Speaker 2:She's in theater and one of Sadie's friends. Sweet girl yeah.
Speaker 3:I run into his dad from time to time. We've got some mutual friends and it's always really nice to see him.
Speaker 1:Anyway, that's really cool, that's my shout out.
Speaker 2:I love that, so shout out to AJ.
Speaker 1:Shout out to AJ. That's awesome.
Speaker 2:He's awesome.
Speaker 1:So real quick.
Speaker 3:Probably making out with his girlfriend, right now, oh gosh, ew he's definitely not.
Speaker 1:He Very timid. Yeah, Aw, so real quick I'll just kind of throw this topic in there.
Speaker 2:Where are we at, though? We're probably long, about 45 minutes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and this probably won't take that long. I'm going to put this in there and then just ask you guys your thoughts on it. So, as you guys know, I didn't go to college. I'm not a therapist. I tell all my clients that I'm like, if you're looking for somebody that can like diagnose stuff, this is just not me. I do long term soul care. For those of you just tuning in 20 years and um, and so I I am.
Speaker 1:I think it's been a probably a powerful motivator for me to to keep learning you know I mean, I read a lot, I listen to a lot, you know stuff that other people would think is so boring I'm just trying to consume. Anyway, lifelong learner, I have been uh, really I've been really interested in this concept of venting and, as you know, you know, I really try to learn a lot about neurobiology and I've got some neurologist friends and you know all these spiritual things that we think are just spiritual are also very neurological and I have been pretty opposed to venting. Really Well, I think, being a Christian, I've always been scared of gossip. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I've always been terrified of like am I slandering someone?
Speaker 1:Am I gossiping? Am I allowed to talk about that? I mean?
Speaker 2:I remember when.
Speaker 1:Jennifer and me were first married. You know she's got, I didn't have any venting when I was younger and she would call and talk to her sisters about their stupid husbands and it would scare the crap out of me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he didn't like that.
Speaker 1:But so there's actually some really good science behind healthy venting. Yeah so when we have not just trauma, but even when we have garden variety drama and our brains are trying to process it, especially if we don't get good rest or whatever, it can get literally stuck in our… Brain, Well, in the central part. Now I can't even remember. I talk about studying this stuff and I can't remember the name. Anyways, I knew it wasn this stuff, but I can't remember the name.
Speaker 1:Anyways, I knew it wasn't brain by the way, yeah, it kind of goes into the primitive part of the brain that's just above the brain stem. And the latest science and I'm using air quotes because you know science has proved out over time, but this is what they think through fMRI scanners and stuff is that our, even our garden variety drama gets stuck and if we're not able to vent it by either talking about it or working it out, like in nature or with friends or with experience, it can kind of get stuck and then it works its way out through our bodies, through our guts, through our Unless we vent.
Speaker 1:Well venting helps. It's not the only thing that helps.
Speaker 3:Like, sometimes, you know some people, so it might not be such a bad thing after all.
Speaker 2:So is it different? If that's, if you're a verbal processor, does venting help more or is everybody a verbal processor?
Speaker 1:Okay. So when life happens again air quotes life happens. We need somehow to be able to process that, either through talking, through our bodies. We need to get it outside of us and so when we're venting, we're getting the thing outside so that we can look. And some people do this by working out, like I have. One of my friends' mom died unexpectedly. I remember calling him and I was like man, what, what did you do? And he said well, jaron, first thing I did I went on a run, and that makes sense, cause he's a, he's a runner, and so, like this vent and I have clients that will edit themselves and be go. Well, I don't want to say that because, I'm like actually go ahead.
Speaker 1:You know no one's editing you, you're not dishonoring anybody, it's in confidence with me, it's a safe spot. And I also think that listening to people who are feeling and saying and doing the things that you are feeling and saying and doing is also part of the processing. I think that's what we do here. Actually, some attunement stuff, yeah, so that's where the call-out shout-outs come. It's like hey, man, I just need to put that. I think the slander comes in is when it's harmful to somebody else. Yeah, like, if you're doing something, what I tell my clients is look, if you're trying to hurt somebody by saying these things, if you know it's going to hurt them, don't do it. You know what I mean. And if it's not true, obviously you don't say it Well right, you know what might also be terrible advice.
Speaker 3:Sorry, I just cut you off. No, no go ahead.
Speaker 2:That what you just said. I'm just kidding. Yeah, that might actually be terrible advice. Thank Terrible advice.
Speaker 3:Thank you. What I heard was growing up is don't vent to someone who can't do anything about it. That could possibly be terrible advice. I think that is terrible advice, because if you're saying that attunement is doing something about it, then Because that's the challenge I have. Like when Jamie vents, I don't like it Really.
Speaker 1:Well, it messes up your perfect world.
Speaker 3:It does, and also I. Immediately my codependency kicks up and I want to fix it.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:Or I want to say well, that's in the past and we can't change it, so why are we even talking about it? Those are my two default go-tos, which are both unhelpful. By way, when someone's venting, um, just a little word to the wise.
Speaker 1:Just throw that little free nugget out there. What if we didn't call it venting? What if we called it clearing, like if I got in the truck with you after this on the rare occasion that we would see each other outside of this okay and we're just, we're going to get a soda or something um on a twice daily different, different place.
Speaker 1:We can get some free refills exactly, and I said and I started talking about jennifer or my kids or whatever right per use. Yeah, I'm just clearing it. I'm not trying to make them look bad in your eyes and I know that you, because you've done your work, you can hold space for that. You can go. Yeah, man, oh dude, I'm so sorry to hear that blah, blah, that's blah. That's actually super healthy and I think our Christian, whatever it is, makes us go. Well, I can't say an unkind word about something I can't.
Speaker 1:And we're doing we're actually just bottling up this stuff and it does affect us over time.
Speaker 3:Well, and I think parts work helps with the IFS stuff Because it like you can vent and be like. A part of me feels like Jennifer is a real B, but that doesn't mean that all of me feels.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Thanks, Drew.
Speaker 3:Well, I'm just using his example, like what he's told me before, but it helps because it means I don't have to like, go all in on. I feel this way, all of me feels this way in on, I feel this way, all of me feels this way. But I need to vent about something, because a part of me feels like I'm being taken advantage of or whatever. Whatever the situation might be helpful for me, because then I don't, because I'm an all-in type of person. So it's really hard for me to like. Like it's always all or nothing, it's always the extreme, it's always everybody always says this, or everybody you know it's like like well, no, that's not always true. So I, everybody you know it's like like well, no, that's not always true. So I think parts work help.
Speaker 1:But it does Like, if you're venting to me and you're, and you're just like God, I can't stand my kids right now.
Speaker 1:I know that you can stay in your kids Do you know, what I mean, but it's right now, this seems really big and you being able to talk about it and put it out and be able to look at it from the outside with someone like it's a really good thing. When I was in california, when we lived in california, we lived um near the preserve in irvine and there's like a two mile loop that goes up into the hills and I noticed that when I was doing that walk I was talking a lot to myself, to the point where I actually said to my counselor I said hey, I'm doing this and I'm having full on conversations with people like what I would say, and he goes, keep doing it.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he goes. That's your, that's the way for your spirit to kind of put it out there. You're not hurting anybody, you're just telling the truth and getting it out, almost like praying a little bit, kind of like just going this is what I would say and well, don't some people journal that way?
Speaker 3:like it's? Like that's the kind of the thing it's like. I'm almost like a brain dump.
Speaker 2:I just got to get it out I just write whatever passes through my brain.
Speaker 1:That doesn't help me at all journaling it journaling.
Speaker 2:I don't like it. I mean I do that. I sometimes I'm like okay, I'm so I don't know what's the word frustrated pent up. Yeah, I just gotta write it all out and I'll write like pages, and pages and pages, and then I won't journal for a long, long time I don't journal.
Speaker 3:I did. They made us journal and treatment and it was very helpful and I probably should do it more. But I don't do it. I don't have, i't do it, I don't enjoy it.
Speaker 2:I don't enjoy it either.
Speaker 3:I actually solved a lot of my own problems journaling though.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean maybe that.
Speaker 3:Like as I was journaling and whatever I was going through, like that thing, they would just start writing whatever you got anxiety about or whatever it was like. Oh, I kind of just gave myself therapy. Mine are a lot like the Psalms.
Speaker 2:Like I start out and then by the end of it I'm like but God is so good. I mean, do you know what I mean? It's amazing. But by the end of it it's a lot like a Psalm.
Speaker 1:That's awesome.
Speaker 3:That is cool. You should try rewriting like the Psalms Gospel according to Jeremy. Psalms according to Jennifer.
Speaker 1:I learned that when she was teaching the kids handwriting, they were doing copy work and so I just started doing it with them. I mean, here I'm 20 years later. That's what I do. I just sit and recopy because it slows, but now that helps me recopying Psalms or whatever but if I journal it ends up being a list of stuff I'm worried about. Really, that's what.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it never gets to, Lord you're good, you never get to the.
Speaker 3:I'm more scared now.
Speaker 2:I don't feel like you've gotten it out all the way, I'll have to keep going and keep going until it's out. That's why it's pages and pages and pages.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I can see that. And you've told me don't ever read my journals, just burn them.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, when you die, you don't want to read them.
Speaker 1:They're usually when I'm mad, but people do keep a diary for the purpose of.
Speaker 2:I want my kids to read this when I'm gone.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, can you imagine?
Speaker 2:No, thank you.
Speaker 3:Does Jeremy make a lot of appearances in that journal?
Speaker 2:It's probably when I'm just really mad at him and I just have to get it out. Or really you know, just upset about something, mm-hmm. Yeah, Not necessarily.
Speaker 3:Let me just say Could I read them at some point?
Speaker 1:30 years ago. I might be worried about that.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And I've never read her journals, but some of them have been left open and I may have read that first page. But you know, I'm making a bed and it's like— or it just happens to be there.
Speaker 2:I leave them flopped around too.
Speaker 1:She actually does Like I'll go through journals and be like oops, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and if I don't like the journal, I'll stop about a third of the way through and I'm like I gotta get a new one.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So there's like half used ones all over the place.
Speaker 1:Anyways, the venting thing after hearing about sort of the biology of it, it kind of makes sense.
Speaker 2:I'm like you gotta be able to clear this stuff. Is that kind of what confession is Like, in a way, not confessing your sin but confessing what's going on inside?
Speaker 3:Confessing what you're feeling, type thing. Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 1:It's kind of disclosure. I guess what I mean like going.
Speaker 2:Okay, I got to get this out. Maybe that's confessing to another person in a way.
Speaker 1:I just think it's got to be with a person that's the problem that can be healthy enough that they can let you clear, and then they can also just walk away Like they're not going. Oh man, I really hate him now.
Speaker 2:I'm not good at that. I'm not good at doing finding the right person to Clint.
Speaker 1:Hey, I think it's a rare person. It is.
Speaker 2:But I just sometimes like I'll get in a venti mood where I'm just I'm like hey person, I don't really know, and then I tell them everything.
Speaker 3:I'm an overshare too, for sure, for sure. But do you have?
Speaker 1:remorse after.
Speaker 2:Yes, I do, I do.
Speaker 1:Even if you're paying somebody.
Speaker 2:No, if I'm paying them Like a counselor, no, that's different.
Speaker 3:Oh no, I just mean like a person I run into. Like the other day at work.
Speaker 2:I'm like to all the people I work with.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I don't know you that way.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:Well, I've never just met you.
Speaker 2:That's true, well, and it's a rare day, it's a rare day. But whenever I'm like just sassy enough, I just let it all, just let it fly you also deflect with sarcasm. Yeah, I'm good at that you love sarcasm, it's so bad it's not it's just the way you talk, so you know what, though, this new generation hates sarcasm. I think x don't, you think, they don't understand it.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's regional too. Yeah, well, yeah I feel like sarcasm in the South somehow works.
Speaker 2:But there are places where it's like Like California.
Speaker 1:Too literal Like-.
Speaker 2:Those. No one in Orange County understood me at all.
Speaker 1:Really Not all of you.
Speaker 2:They didn't understand my humor.
Speaker 1:There were people that surprised that you, they would get to know us and be like, oh, that's mean we, they would get to know us and be like oh, that's mean we're like no, no, no, it's not mean, we're just kidding around a little bit. Yeah, they did not get me.
Speaker 2:That's just not how they are there. But I don't think that this generation is like X. I don't think that's their jam, even though Sadie is.
Speaker 1:We're X, by the way.
Speaker 2:Oh, sorry Z You're talking about this Z get that mixed up all the time.
Speaker 3:I think it depends who it is, but man sadie she will she will cut you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've got a daughter like that. I love it. Anyways, I'm just, um, you know, here I am, you know, 50 and going. Huh, I may have been wrong about that, like, oh for sure I mean for years.
Speaker 2:it's been years now. I mean I remember going I'm done, I'm that. Oh, I don't want to talk about that, I'm done with that. I'm just saying it, I'm sick of that.
Speaker 1:But you also. I know this is going to surprise some people, but you have a pretty genuine, pure heart. You're not trying to hurt people.
Speaker 2:No, I would never say something to try and hurt somebody, but I'm not going to. No, I would never say something to try and hurt somebody, but I'm not going to.
Speaker 3:Well, I think as you get older you stop trying to manage other people quite so much. You're just like I just had a conversation with one of my daughters who's an adult now and she was trying to navigate a situation and she wasn't at all trying to be manipulative. But I thought back on myself. I was like, hey, you probably could just be honest with that person because it's not that big a deal. Lot back of myself I was like, hey, you probably could just be honest with that person because it's not that big a deal and you can trust that they're also an adult and you don't have to manage how they receive it, because there's nothing that you're you just have to deliver a little bit of bad news.
Speaker 3:I mean it's not totally big, big a deal. It's like, and she's like, well, what if she gets? I'm like, well then that's her trust her to be an adult and handle it, and if she doesn't, then that's on her. But you have nothing malicious about this conversation.
Speaker 1:It's just like you know man, I, I did that for so long thankfully man getting sick, helped with that. But I in my 20s I mean I would make that phone call. Hey, that thing I said today. Listen, I didn't mean to say anything bad you know what I mean. Oh, you did that all the time and I mean I'm, I'm, even, I'm away from that, and I still feel gross about it, having done it like just trying to manage how people no.
Speaker 2:But it's just sad Just thinking about worrying about all that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a hard way to live.
Speaker 2:I got over it. I mean, I just got done and I was like you know what.
Speaker 1:F it all Well and we're going to talk about this next week. But loss, your give a shit, goes way down after loss.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, you know what I mean. Welcome back.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 3:Yes, I know, like he was an hour in, he can cuss.
Speaker 2:Think so.
Speaker 3:It's his gospel.
Speaker 2:You could bleep it. I'm just saying it's too much work. All right, guys, thank you. Thank you for listening.
Speaker 1:We will be back, we, and it looks like we're going to continue.
Speaker 2:Are we. You never know. He's going to get done today. As soon as he leaves. He's going to call and be like guys.
Speaker 1:sorry, that's the voice she uses for every douchebag.
Speaker 2:You're included in that If she's mad at me.
Speaker 1:It ends up being that guy, guys, I'm sorry. Oh, you just think you're do-do-do, all right, everybody. Peace, peace out Peace.