The Gospel According to Jeromy
Welcome to "The Gospel According to Jeromy" podcast, where faith, humor, and heartfelt stories collide in a lively conversation about life, love, and everything in between. Join your host Jeromy Deibler, along with co-hosts Jennifer Deibler and Drew Powell, as they share the Dieblers journey from being the acclaimed Christian band FFH to their current path in spiritual direction.
In this engaging and candid podcast, Jeromy, Jennifer, and Drew offer a unique blend of perspectives on spirituality, mental health, emotional well-being, and personal growth. Drawing from their extensive experiences on the road and life's ups and downs, they explore the joys and challenges of faith, all while sprinkling in some humor along the way.
Get ready for spirited debates, deep dives into controversial thoughts, and heartwarming memories as they invite you into their world of faith, questions, and spiritual exploration. Whether you're a longtime believer, a spiritual seeker, or simply someone looking for meaningful conversations, "The Gospel According to Jeromy" podcast has something for everyone.
Tune in to join the conversation, laugh, learn, and be inspired as Jeromy, Jennifer, and Drew navigate the twists and turns of life's spiritual journey. It's a podcast that's as diverse as their experiences and as authentic as their hearts. Subscribe today and embark on a captivating exploration of faith, laughter, and the adventure of the human spirit.
The Gospel According to Jeromy
Episode About Nothing
Ever wondered why some people feel entitled to make comments to your face they'd never say to others? In this refreshingly candid conversation, we unpack the curious dynamics of friendship, communication, and personal boundaries that shape our daily interactions.
The doorbell drama is real as we share our frustration with persistent solicitors who somehow miss (or ignore) the "No Soliciting" sign, setting off a chain reaction in the household that makes us contemplate Home Alone-style defense systems. This leads to broader reflections on how we respond when our boundaries are crossed, whether physically or emotionally.
Sleep habits reveal surprising insights about relationship dynamics, especially when CPAP machines enter the picture. From fan positioning to bedtime routines, these seemingly small preferences highlight the delicate dance of compromise that sustains long-term relationships. The revelation that one host experienced 63 sleep apnea episodes per hour (with another reaching 78!) sparks important conversations about health advocacy even when it feels uncomfortable.
We share our attempts at Lenten disciplines with refreshing honesty, admitting the gap between our intentions and follow-through that so many can relate to. The concept of "No Obligation Saturday" emerges as a counterpoint – the freedom to simply enjoy time without productivity pressures, whether that means mineral baths at a spa or marathon movie sessions.
Join us for this meandering yet meaningful exploration of how we navigate life's complexities together. As we prepare for a slightly more sporadic recording schedule due to travel, we invite you to send in your own shout-outs and call-outs – we'd love to feature them in upcoming episodes!
no, that's my call, yeah, that's my shout out I got some actually can I do my shout out and call out kind of close together let's do them at the same time.
Speaker 2:No, I mean like they're kind of the same no, no, let's, let's do when we go around, we'll do shout out, call out together.
Speaker 1:I'm saying my shout out and my call out are kind of the same thing, just different version, like different sides of it.
Speaker 3:Like your strength is your weakness, type of thing. Are we rolling? Yeah, we're good, do?
Speaker 1:you know what I'm saying. I completely understand what you're saying and I'm of, like you were just saying I don't what I'm trying to say is I don't care, they're yours okay, uh, hey everybody, welcome to the gospel, according to jeremy.
Speaker 2:Thank you again for joining us. A couple things I want to get out of the way before we even get going um because these guys will immediately talk over me, but I I want to say that from now until probably summertime, these will probably be a little bit more sporadic Because we are all we are busy and traveling, that's my call out Specifically.
Speaker 3:That's just that felt targeted, that felt really pointed at me.
Speaker 2:Drew, can you go over there? No, it's also me. I mean, I might have some important stuff.
Speaker 1:We might be busy too, Drew.
Speaker 3:I feel like the people that listen to this already kind of picked up that vibe.
Speaker 1:That it's you.
Speaker 3:No that we just kind of disappear for a week or two every once in a while she's been getting a lot of.
Speaker 1:It's very rude, you getting hate mail.
Speaker 2:No, very rude, you get hate mail. No, I've just had a couple people say, hey, can you guys come back? That's funny. I've also been off instagram, so they've been like, hey, I need you. Well, don't talk about that yet, because we're going to talk about that this time. Um, the lent gotcha part of thing, but first off so that was my first thing um, we uh, so we're going to be sporadic yeah, we're going to be we're going to be in and out a little bit.
Speaker 2:Um, thank you, and we might, uh, we might be taping like two episodes at a time, so we might not be up on current events, but maybe we won't talk about politics as much because you're off instagram right now and that would be good. Second thing, uh, I'm just going to avoid some of the comments. Uh, this is for mostly people who who watch. I know that I'm very tan. No one has to say anything about it. I mean, I'm when and I am not going to the tan bed or anything. I just I tan super fast. For those of our listeners who know my mom, he likes vitamin d and no, and new dad, they are the same.
Speaker 2:they get tanned fast and so I've been in the sun a little bit. And also, thirdly, I know this shirt is weird. I can't figure out whether it's actually sort of dressy or it's pajamas.
Speaker 1:It's pajamas.
Speaker 2:But it's really comfortable. It looks comfortable.
Speaker 1:It's very, craig Dybler.
Speaker 2:I know, but it has a pocket Dybler.
Speaker 1:How do you say I can't? It's Craig Dibler.
Speaker 2:I don't know, but it has a pocket. You look like your dad.
Speaker 1:Thank you Exactly, that is, if your dad had a clothing line that would have been in it.
Speaker 2:Oh, this would have been on the cover.
Speaker 1:What are those things?
Speaker 2:called.
Speaker 3:The style A Henley for our listeners. And these are really comfy. It's a slub Hen-through. It's sexy.
Speaker 1:No, that's the slub.
Speaker 3:Well, the tan with the white, it works. The tan thing though is. It's a little bizarre.
Speaker 2:It's weird, isn't it Now, when everybody else is tan nobody's going to say anything.
Speaker 1:You're getting some major sun damage happening on your nose. I don't know what's going on. I'm worried about it.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 1:You're welcome.
Speaker 3:It. I'm worried about it. Thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 1:It's a badge of honor, or is it just from the convertible.
Speaker 3:You're just in the convertible all the time he also goes out and gets his D in the back porch.
Speaker 2:I'll sit on the back porch, but if.
Speaker 1:I sit on the back porch. It's vitamin D.
Speaker 2:Wow, I get my D.
Speaker 1:What are we talking about here? Vitamin D, we check everybody.
Speaker 2:All. So, if you're new to the podcast, in 2025, we started doing shout-outs and call-outs and I forgot to mention this. You're welcome to send us yours. I would love to hear your shout-outs and call-outs.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that would be fun, Unless it's us.
Speaker 2:Our shout-outs are the things that happen to us, unsurprising, you know, little happy accidents or blessings Call-outs are people that we would. I mean, we'd like to be able to say that to people's faces, but we might not have the nerve Things that happen that are just like so.
Speaker 1:for instance real quick.
Speaker 2:My shout out this week is a girl named Taylor at Old Navy was. I do not like shop. I love to shop online. Jennifer and me went to Old Navy today.
Speaker 1:Today.
Speaker 2:And Taylor was awesome.
Speaker 1:She was and they needed somebody awesome.
Speaker 3:She work in the counter.
Speaker 1:No, she's the manager.
Speaker 2:She's roving the store and she's on it.
Speaker 1:She was like 20 years ago.
Speaker 2:Customer service yes, Like I got you.
Speaker 3:Like, what kind of things was she doing for you?
Speaker 2:Helping you find clothes and stuff. I went in because I ripped a hole in my jeans and I have two pair of jeans and I wear, which you know. You're probably like this too. I put on the pair that has the belt in it, um, and so I put on my jeans, ripped them the knee ripped because it's a real thin fabric and it's all and they're old and I wanted to replace them because I like these specific jeans.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh and uh, they're the 360 stretch I wanted to replace them, because I like these specific jeans.
Speaker 1:They're the 360 stretch.
Speaker 3:She helped me. Old Navy jeans are great. They're the only jeans I wear Really Because they got a little stretch in them. Yeah, and they're not super expensive, they're cheap. I'm pretty much 95% joggers these days. Yeah, I don't wear jeans very much when I put them on.
Speaker 2:I'm like ugh, I like a jogger, but everything I wear has to be 100% cotton. And you know my friend Ben, he also has MS and he's the same way. He cannot have anything touch his skin that's not 100% cotton, or?
Speaker 3:what happens.
Speaker 1:They explode.
Speaker 2:You feel horrible. Oh, you just don't like the way they feel.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's like a. I don't know if it caused a reaction or something or what happened.
Speaker 1:They'll be in the hospital. I didn't know Right away.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not really up to speed on that Straight to jail.
Speaker 2:No matter of fact, he noticed something I had on the last time I was with him. He's like, hey, I see that you're wearing that shirt, is that like Buck Mason? And this is when Hutch was working at Buck Mason. I was like, yeah, dude, I get all. He's like, oh my gosh, I was actually going to tell you you need to go to this store, buck Mason, because they have this, what's it called? Babe Slub. You said Slub.
Speaker 1:Oh, that Slub.
Speaker 2:Totten, slub Totten, and so I thought, wonder if I could find a cheap version of this on Amazon. And this is what they sent me.
Speaker 1:Oh, is that an Amazon shirt?
Speaker 2:Yeah it's super comfortable, but it's weird. Okay my call out for this week is we just went right into it. Yeah, well, I was kind of hoping we could maybe get out of this episode in less than an hour.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:I mean, do you guys have other things you want to say for the intro?
Speaker 1:No, just we haven't caught up at all.
Speaker 2:Well, we're gonna. I mean, it's just gonna happen.
Speaker 3:I was excited to see you guys. Here's the thing People don't realize that we only talk on the podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So when there's gaps in between. We haven't talked since the last. I haven't seen you since last. They've literally heard our last conversation we've had as friends, that's so true, that's so true.
Speaker 1:And and what's?
Speaker 2:funny is I have people ask me questions about you, right, I have two clients in particular that listen to this and they'll ask me stuff about you.
Speaker 3:The people listening know, all that you know about me, I go, I don't know yeah.
Speaker 2:What's he doing out in Denver? I don't have any idea.
Speaker 3:No idea.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know what you guys are doing either. That's why I get excited to come and record it recorded, because it's like I'm catching up with friends also the huge payouts. I mean the amount of money doesn't hurt them.
Speaker 2:You know the royalties the royalties are huge yeah, that's how podcasts work um especially this one I don't know how to make in so much I don't know how to call this person out, because it's this person that that came here yesterday, and then it's also a group of people there are okay, I would say, mostly roofers uh yard guys and bug guys bug people that yes constantly come into the door they do not realize the effect of what ringing our doorbell does oh my gosh, it sets off a chain reaction.
Speaker 2:Of course we put jennifer put a sign in the mulch that says no, my gosh, it sets off a chain reaction. So of course we put Jennifer put a sign in the mulch that says no soliciting. It's now in a bucket by the door.
Speaker 1:And they don't.
Speaker 3:They don't care, they pretend they don't see it.
Speaker 1:I guess I think I need to stick it straight eye level.
Speaker 2:I am actually going to put a note on the door that says, Like, if you ignore the sign, stuff's going to fall from the roof.
Speaker 1:I'm going to shoot you Right to jail.
Speaker 2:Like you ring this doorbell, you win a dog.
Speaker 1:Bullets fly.
Speaker 2:I think.
Speaker 1:I actually have a sign that says that.
Speaker 3:Well, and they always find the time where you just like lay down for a nap. Like it's the worst time ever. I heard Jamie just last week in an argument with a guy and she doesn't argue with anybody, but this guy would not take no for an answer and she was finally had to get rude and like just shut the door in his face. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't understand. What about no soliciting? Like we almost need to make a sign that says if you do not live here, do not ring the doorbell.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Could that work? I don't know Drew's taking notes. I'm thinking about my call outs, because this is the first time you thought about it in three weeks, all right, so those are my two for this episode. Babe, what do you got?
Speaker 1:oh, okay, well, my call out, the call out's good sure it's the bad stuff.
Speaker 2:No call out is shout, out is like shout out is like appreciated.
Speaker 1:Shout out is good. Okay, I want to shout out the best male written into a TV show.
Speaker 3:That was weird. What it would say the best male character written into a TV show.
Speaker 1:I think I could guess this, I know, you know, I've told you.
Speaker 2:Do I know yes.
Speaker 1:And it's.
Speaker 2:Spencer Dutton from 1923.
Speaker 1:It just ended last week. Oh I know, yes, and it's Spencer Dutton from 1923. It just ended last week. Oh my gosh, he's perfect.
Speaker 3:He's the perfect man Okay.
Speaker 1:So, which brings me to my call out, which is Don't write these guys a show. Taylor Sheridan. What the heck. It's not fair to males, it's not fair to men to write a character like Spencer Dutton. It's just not fair.
Speaker 3:What about him that you love Everything? How is his relation to John in Yellowstone? Is he like a-?
Speaker 1:He's like a I don't know because he's 1923.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So he's like a great great something. What is the romance that women have with this pioneer period?
Speaker 1:It's not pioneer period necessarily, because rip was a really great character like he was the perfect man too except he wasn't handsome. But when you read redeeming, in my opinion you were like I don't think it was redeeming, didn't?
Speaker 3:he win like sexiest man alive or something probably.
Speaker 1:I don't find him attractive at all in the least, especially because his hair is normally pretty blonde, that dude, and they put that ugly black dye on it. He just didn't look good wasn't appealing to you spencer, however do you have, can you? Pull him up gorgeous and it's not necessarily his, I mean. Yes, he's beautiful, but I see this guy he's also holy moly. His character is just amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, I don't think anybody would actually be like that.
Speaker 3:I thought it was Tim McGraw.
Speaker 1:Oh gosh no.
Speaker 3:No, I know who Rip is. No, that's Rip.
Speaker 1:No, he wants to see Spencer Spencer from 1923.
Speaker 2:Okay, spencer Is.
Speaker 3:Tim McGraw in that one he's in 1883.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, Damn, Listen, he's just. Oh heck yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's the guy from the movie.
Speaker 1:Yes, I haven't seen it, but yes.
Speaker 3:The Blake.
Speaker 1:Lively movie.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's the guy from oh did he beat her up?
Speaker 1:No, he was the good guy. No, he was the good guy.
Speaker 3:He's a good actor. I like him.
Speaker 2:Well, holy crap, you might not after that.
Speaker 1:He's so awesome, his character's so awesome, but if you, I'm not endorsing the show because it is gross, there are some storylines that are should not. I mean, I think, taylor, what's his face? Sheridan must be a complete freak face. Sheridan must be a complete freak, like he's. Just he's into some kinky, gross stuff because they put it on the show and you're like, okay, you wrote that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's like sexual in nature oh my god, just gross yeah okay, yeah, so anyway, call out spencer, call out shout out spencer, call out taylor which is so emasculating, because here's, me on the couch doing a crossword puzzle.
Speaker 3:That's mainly sexy in its own right, my.
Speaker 2:PJs, with my reading glasses, on playing with Silly Putty and she's gone. I mean she's watching this guy Wearing your Henley and this guy is like fighting off lions in Africa. Yeah, I mean, that's not fair.
Speaker 1:It's not fair because it's not. He's not a real person, so you wouldn't make it 12 hours back then, oh gosh no that's what I'm saying 23 is better than 83 1883 it's still pretty bad it's still pretty bad, but you're still peeing outside not the rich people in 1923, my father-in-law had an outhouse. Yeah, but he was in the country, not the rich people.
Speaker 2:Doesn't this take place in Montana Well peeing outside is amazing, so I don't know why that's the Well, I'm saying Jennifer with no outhouse, no bath, no air conditioning.
Speaker 1:They had baths.
Speaker 3:My dream is to get a property back where I can, just for the reason I can pee outside again, because I feel trapped in my neighborhood.
Speaker 1:I pee outside. Here we actually.
Speaker 3:Well, we're getting a new fence and I probably will when our fence goes up, because it's a privacy fence.
Speaker 2:I pee off the porch at night.
Speaker 1:Oh, you need that.
Speaker 2:Do you really? I pee right off the deck Wow.
Speaker 1:You need a privacy fence.
Speaker 3:Definitely.
Speaker 1:You guys are open to the elements.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 3:That was a good one we taught Hutch to.
Speaker 1:We potty trained Hutch in Africa, and so when we came home he just dropped his pants anywhere I mean and he was dropping his pants like all the way down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, parking lots. All the way down and around his ankles. We had a neighbor move in next door and he went rang the doorbell. They didn't come to the door right away. Rang the doorbell, they didn't come to the door right away. And in the meantime Hutch dropped it and started peeing in their mulch. He just turned sideways.
Speaker 1:So they saw him in the side light Profile Little skinny, tiny Hutch peeing. He also had fellowship Remember.
Speaker 2:John Mays was like okay.
Speaker 1:Remember Hutch was in the parking lot with his pants around his ankles, peeing in the parking lot.
Speaker 3:I don't remember that Fellowship John Mays is like all right. That's funny.
Speaker 2:We're like well he learned to pee in Africa. He potty trained it. Boy, that makes Africa sound like.
Speaker 1:Well, it just brought it back, because that's where Spencer was.
Speaker 2:Okay, yes.
Speaker 3:What do you got, drew? My shout out is going to be this wonderful new human that I've met recently that has started working in our business. Okay, Her name is Lucy, all right, and she's been working for about a week or two with me as like an assistant. Okay, and changing my life.
Speaker 1:You have an assistant. Yeah, you need an assistant. I feel so douchey to say it is douchey. I hate that't want.
Speaker 3:I hate that. That's what she calls herself like. That's her thing. She's like a you must be doing well I don't know about that, but you have assistant money gee, god, we're in the wrong business, what do you?
Speaker 1:do it again. What do you do?
Speaker 3:guys, it's not that impressive, I'm just saying she's really helped me organize my life.
Speaker 1:We don't even know what you do.
Speaker 3:That's why I make a lot of money.
Speaker 2:Every podcast, we ask you what's the name of your company?
Speaker 1:again.
Speaker 2:What do you do? You're in marketing.
Speaker 1:We don't know what you do, but we now know you make good money. Apparently it's the podcast money.
Speaker 2:Could you name his four kids?
Speaker 1:Okay, bennett, I don't know kids Okay.
Speaker 3:Bennett, I don't know if I could.
Speaker 1:Bennett Wait no.
Speaker 2:Beckham Wait.
Speaker 1:AJ.
Speaker 2:I know there's an AJ.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay, now I can't, I can picture them, I can totally picture them.
Speaker 2:Jesse.
Speaker 1:Nope, there's no Jesse.
Speaker 2:There's a, b, there's no, jesse. There's a, b, there's a.
Speaker 3:Bentley. Bentley, yes, that's the youngest.
Speaker 1:Bentley, AJ. Oh, what are the two girls? I can picture them.
Speaker 3:Do you want me to tell you, or just leave it hanging?
Speaker 1:Tell me no, you better tell us Emery, emery. I would have never gotten that, and the oldest is Grace Right.
Speaker 2:Oh gosh reason I was thinking it was an l okay, no else.
Speaker 1:I took a shot at jesse because there are just so many jesse's, amanda's, lauren's, jesse's not that popular?
Speaker 2:is it all right? What are your shout outs and call?
Speaker 3:it. Oh sorry, shout out. Shout out to lucy, grateful for her.
Speaker 2:She's awesome, she's amazing she like working at your house doing all your scheduling?
Speaker 3:no, no, no, not in my house um no, no, she's, it's for the business, she's a business yeah she's helping me run, run the admin for the business and she's been awesome. Um, yeah, stays out in front and just you put her in the yard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she stays up front. Stay up front. She stays in the yard, not in the house that's hilarious.
Speaker 3:My call out is going to be the nashville weather yes, okay that kept me and my two children and wife in the half bath downstairs several nights and you guys aren't little no no, the one with the little potty in it. Yeah, the, yeah baby potty. What do you call it? Small potty? I don't know. Yeah, in that, all of us in that thing, oh man and the kids were miserable and you know, do they?
Speaker 1:do they appreciate that you? I mean, were they like come on, this is stupid, I want to go to bed. Or were they like scared?
Speaker 3:uh, bentley was kind of excited to be up out of her bed and be doing something. Oh so she was like jacked about it. Aj was angry, laying on the floor, angry that he had to get up out of his bed.
Speaker 2:This is stupid, yeah yeah no, it's uh, that was, that was crazy, wasn't it? Yeah, were you watching it too?
Speaker 3:yeah, so I was sitting, I just I wasn't in the bath, I was sitting, like watching the TV. I was on the couch I was on the couch.
Speaker 1:Somebody had to watch it.
Speaker 3:Jamie was like you need to get in the bathroom. I'm like if something starts to happen, I'm two steps from the bathroom.
Speaker 2:I'm pretty sure I can make it there in time. Well, they were Danielle Breezy. Who's our best girl? Do you watch Danielle Breezy?
Speaker 1:You watch the Nashville Weather Guys. Yes, that's what I watch too. But Danielle Breezy, if you're going to watch the news, she's the best.
Speaker 3:I don't know if I watch her. Whatever lady I watch was in full panic mode. I was like, listen, lady, you need to have a non-anxious presence.
Speaker 1:They're all in full panic mode.
Speaker 2:That's why I like the weather guys. Yeah, you might want to take cover. They were showing the tornado and they're like okay, I mean it came right over your place, kind of came down 96.
Speaker 3:It literally went over our house downtown Franklin.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 2:You guys were right in the line for a long time, so we're like here it comes and they're like if you're at the corner of this and this, they basically gave our home address. Yes, I'm like, all right, it's over us.
Speaker 1:Yeah that happened. That was the very first one, and then we had the next night. We had all that whole night, yeah and you know what I've?
Speaker 3:what I really hate more than anything probably, is hail really because because we don't pull our cars in the garage. Yeah, yeah and so I'm just sitting here thinking my truck. So I went and like put towels, towels over my truck, did you really? Yeah, that's a good call. Well, I don't know if it would have helped or not, but I'm like I don't want to come out to like my truck just dinged up with hail, yeah.
Speaker 2:Because there's some good size hail that was dropping on our house man, it got crazy Well they were some that were the head.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, Knock you out yeah.
Speaker 1:So I was texting my brother-in-law all through the night my sister and my brother-in-law, because they're in Franklin too.
Speaker 2:What was I doing?
Speaker 1:He was sleeping. Passed out he was snoring and farting the whole night. It smelled so bad. That was the night you kept fart bad Anyway, I don't know what you ate that day.
Speaker 3:That's amazing.
Speaker 2:We're still trying to figure out In his sleep.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in his sleep.
Speaker 2:I had a couple of weeks where you couldn't even be in the room with me.
Speaker 1:It was rough.
Speaker 2:And that isn't like me. Actually, that's amazing.
Speaker 1:That reminds me. Do you remember when I took Noni juice?
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Listen, I would go. I would be in the middle of the bunk area of the bus. No one else could be in the bunk area.
Speaker 3:That's hilarious, you would just let them fly.
Speaker 1:I didn't have a choice. It was so bad.
Speaker 2:Wow the problem wasn't them flying. The problem was what happened.
Speaker 1:They didn't fly anywhere, they hung.
Speaker 3:They just hung in the air.
Speaker 1:Yeah, lingered, it was so bad it was so bad and he hung in there with me and I feel so bad. I call you out, but I have such a sensitive nose.
Speaker 2:It's so I'm such a wuss, this thing, and you know what, I ended up getting really sick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it was something, so I'm like this could have been a precursor to.
Speaker 3:I mean, I went like.
Speaker 1:Because it's not normal for you, were he quit wearing it bummer, yeah, I'm in that.
Speaker 2:That group of 90% of people who have a CPAP stop using it do you? I just started it he would.
Speaker 1:He won't use it.
Speaker 2:I'm two weeks in well, I didn't notice any difference. I did, except for the fact that I was mad every night. I noticed a big difference yeah, jamie's, jamie's finding new freedom for sure, oh it was wonderful I lost a little bit of weight and that did help, and I think I might be going the other way, so maybe that's why I'm snoring.
Speaker 3:Well, when I did my sleep study so they say the average, have we talked about this already? They said the average person has a sleep episode three to five times a night.
Speaker 2:Everyone does where you kind of stop breathing for a minute.
Speaker 3:It's like pretty common. Severe is when you have 30 an hour, so three to five an hour.
Speaker 1:Oh, is normal, Is normal.
Speaker 3:Just some. You know 30 an hour is severe. I did my sleep study and I had 63.
Speaker 1:I think you had 78.
Speaker 3:Dude, I know that's I mean that's crazy, you're basically dying all night long.
Speaker 2:I'm actually a candidate for the surgery.
Speaker 1:It's really hard on your heart. It's bad for you. You will die earlier.
Speaker 3:I kind of like it. I look forward to the CPAP machine at night.
Speaker 1:It doesn't dry your nose out. So that's what his problem was.
Speaker 3:Mine has a water tank in it His does too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I also, you can change the setting. I had problems with the tube. I mean, the whole thing was like I could give it another shot, but See, I love sleeping on my back we also had an unintended consequence where I started wearing the CPAP and she got super like, are you going to plug it in, are you going to turn it on? And I was like this is starting to get like you did, you started micromanaging the.
Speaker 1:CPAP. That is not true.
Speaker 2:It is absolutely one of that.
Speaker 3:Let me explain.
Speaker 2:You even apologized.
Speaker 3:You know him better than that. That's going to make him run the other way. Well, that's true.
Speaker 1:But this is what happens. He'd fall asleep and I'd be like, hey, babe, are you going to put on your CPAP? And so he thinks I'm just constantly, but what I'm doing is he's asleep.
Speaker 3:Try and keep him alive.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I'm like.
Speaker 2:The only way we can do this is if I put them. If you let me still be in charge of if I fall asleep and then I wake up, I'll put it on, but I don't like being woken up out of a sleep to put something on to go to sleep. Yeah, and then she also. She is very particular about her sleep. Like the fan. Yeah, Like we can aim. The fan has to be on for the noise and you're like in your coffin with your yeah. If perhaps it blows one hair on her finger.
Speaker 2:At all. We turn the fan and it's on my side, so that's gotta be right.
Speaker 1:You fan and it's on my side, so that's got to be right. You don't like?
Speaker 2:the fan on at all. I know I want it on, I just don't like blowing at me. Yeah, but it's got to be close like there's a sweet spot. No, no, I don't need it close.
Speaker 1:I don't care if it's facing directly there's also perpendicular.
Speaker 2:There's a puzzle parallel. There's also a pillow puzzle that she's got to figure out. Five pillows.
Speaker 3:Yes, I think there's going to be a lot of women who listen to this, who are going to relate to Jennifer on this. I don't think this is a rare.
Speaker 1:Not Cass.
Speaker 2:She doesn't listen, though we have one friend who, like her husband's, like I don't know how she does it, like she just takes her shoes off.
Speaker 1:She gets in the bed in her clothes and falls asleep with makeup on clothes.
Speaker 2:We're staying at their house Crazy. I wake up in the morning and I was like, cass, were you wearing that last night? She's like yeah.
Speaker 3:I slept in it.
Speaker 2:I haven't changed yet.
Speaker 3:I was like did you sleep in these clothes?
Speaker 1:I think that's more rare.
Speaker 2:She's like, yeah, that's what I do.
Speaker 1:She is extremely low maintenance. That way, though, look.
Speaker 2:That sounds great. That sounds like a gift to me to be able to just lay down.
Speaker 1:Well, spencer Dutton sounds like a gift to me, well.
Speaker 2:No, I mean for me, if I were able to just fall asleep like that.
Speaker 3:She took that the total wrong way. Jamie's got a very specific regimen that she works every night and it's locked in and she's very particular about how she sleeps and being woken up and, yeah, are you a night shower or a morning shower? Morning, yeah, I have to shower in the morning. I just couldn't not shower in the morning and she's like she takes a bath every single night of her life. I don't care if we get home at two in the morning from something which never happens, but she would take a bath before bed.
Speaker 2:That's how I am with a shower. I mean I have been so dead tired, put on my pjs, get. I mean, I'm in bed under the covers and then I start to panic, panic and I gotta get up, take a shower. I mean, if I don't shower at night, um, that feels like a healthier way to live did I it just shit.
Speaker 1:You just, guys, are just talking about it Like it's, I can't. I could never go to bed without washing my face. Go ahead, what.
Speaker 2:No go. So okay, we did the shout outs and call outs. Yeah, I did mine. If you happen to have one listeners, that's what you were getting about something, but after it's over Is your battery dying.
Speaker 3:No, we're good what?
Speaker 2:was the boop. What was that? There was a boop. Is that on airplane mode?
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Well.
Speaker 1:Kind of too late now isn't it yeah?
Speaker 3:just let it, it's fine, it's just Jeremy's angle.
Speaker 2:I wanted are you guys doing a Lent thing?
Speaker 3:Well, started it, started it thing well, started it, started it, you're, you love it.
Speaker 1:You love a launch. I launched it. You love a launch. I launched mine late. I launched mine late, remember, oh?
Speaker 2:right. Enneagram sevens love a launch.
Speaker 3:I'm the best starter in the world. Do you love it?
Speaker 2:love it, that's what I do my business, I help people grow and start things now.
Speaker 3:Now I'm managing it Once we get it going and I'm great. I'm actually. This is not ego, I'm really good at it.
Speaker 2:Oh, I believe it. Very good at it. I mean, you started this, yeah, and then quit thrice.
Speaker 1:But you did start this and then I almost didn't show up today.
Speaker 3:Whatever Did you panic when I? I was like oh crap. He didn't even see it yet.
Speaker 2:I didn't. No, no, I saw it right as I was and I was like babe, did you get that text from Drew?
Speaker 1:And I didn't have my phone.
Speaker 2:I'm holding her phone. I said I don't think he's coming. I was like no, she's. Like what?
Speaker 3:I was late, actually, she goes, did he cancel? Yeah action.
Speaker 2:That's why I did it, but I pretty quickly I did it. Hit jk, I'm in the driveway, whatever. Uh, I was partly like well, this is inconvenient and partly relieved, relieved yeah, yeah I love a snow day oh man, so much.
Speaker 3:I had a. I had a podcast recording right before this and the guy we started it and he, like in the middle of it, canceled and said we need to reschedule and I was in the middle of the podcast, canceled and said we need to reschedule.
Speaker 2:Oh, in the middle of the podcast, yeah, he stopped like five, ten minutes in.
Speaker 1:Why.
Speaker 3:He said he was having some internet issues. I couldn't see anything.
Speaker 2:It was fine, oh, this was a Zoom thing yeah. And he was like, hey, this is going to keep doing this the whole time and I just don't want to deal on this podcast, and they're like, oh yeah, just tell me, I've got to play stuff at my house. I'm like, well, we don't do the Zoom, could we do that? Yeah, we could.
Speaker 1:It's hard, though, huh, it seems like it would be hard.
Speaker 3:I mean you could set up a person on the computer, just like you'd set them there and look at them and talk to them.
Speaker 1:But I hate a Zoom meeting and there's always like a weird delay of trying to talk.
Speaker 3:There can be. The technology is better now than it used to be, but it doesn't feel the same, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:This power triangle that we have? Yeah, it's yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:So what did you start on Lent? Well, it's in the middle of the night right now. What'd you?
Speaker 1:get go True.
Speaker 2:Huh, what'd you do on Lent? Like what'd you God? What was it? I don't remember.
Speaker 1:You don't even know what you did.
Speaker 3:It's not that long ago, my gosh, that's hilarious. What was it? Oh, I think I was going to just make a commitment to spending the first hour of the day with the Lord, and I had this really great devotional book that I got and I was really excited about it. I can't remember the author or the name of it, but Jamie and I were reading it together and it's so good.
Speaker 2:You stood up. The Lord, though the Lord's still on the curb, you never picked him up, so is Jamie still doing it.
Speaker 3:I, I don't know, I don't know what she's doing she probably is and she's probably like geez probably sorry we don't see each other. Like she sleeps, I'm gone taking the kids to school and then she gets up and does her routine and like by the time I'm back from the kids school she's kind of awake ish Doing her thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, totally, the single people listening to. This marriage is not what you think it is.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:It is Dude.
Speaker 3:Mark Harris we were just talking the other day and him and his wife every morning get up, do devotions, take communion together.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh Every morning. You know he would. No, that's not human he would he's um?
Speaker 1:no, he's not, that's not human.
Speaker 3:Mark harris is one of the most exceptional people I know he really is.
Speaker 2:I just met him for the first time oh, you're kidding three, two or three weeks ago. Oh, next time they're in town, tell me, we'll have him on here he is the sweetest he's great he's, he like I've heard so so my best friend and is really close with mark.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I've heard for years man Mark Harris.
Speaker 2:Is that?
Speaker 3:Michael, no, kyle Lee Do you know, Kyle? I don't. I know our friend Michael. Yeah, michael and him are really close. Michael and I have been close for a long long time too, but Kyle produces all gateway stuff and they're. When we did that podcast with Andy, it was at Kyle's studio.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, okay. Also, if you're listening, all the guys in For Him are wonderful.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, mark is just they would all agree.
Speaker 2:You talk to Andy about it too, and Andy's like yeah, everybody loves Mark. I don't know.
Speaker 1:He's also just fun. Yeah, he is, he's one of those really fun people.
Speaker 3:He's just like salt of the earth guy.
Speaker 1:Joint shout out today to mark harris because he just is collective shout out to mark harris he and not to hype him too much. I saw andy the other day at the ice cream shop where sadie works and oh yeah he was like oh, watch your podcast.
Speaker 3:I was like, really don't do that andy's great, but andy would would admit like he's like andy would be the first to tell you like hey, I'm, I'm good in like a retreat setting, but I'm more intro. Like I'm not the people person that, oh, he's always seemed that way, which I have not experienced Andy that way, like he's always been great, but I also I can understand, like him. You know he runs out of words eventually, but Mark has just got this patience slow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, most golf I ever played was on the, when we were on tour with For Him, because with for him, because it mattered to those guys. And I would always ride with Mark because I thought for a month and a half Andy hated me.
Speaker 1:Andy can be scared Like I never would have thought Andy would have recognized me, because we probably didn't say one word to each other on tour, and so when he was like hey at the ice cream shop, I was like hi.
Speaker 3:Oh, he's a sweetheart and he's just intimidating because he's quiet. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So you think, what is he thinking? Well, it's funny.
Speaker 3:They're still playing a good like. We have a Zoom tomorrow morning at nine, but they got to get going to a tee time. Oh, really, they're still very much into golf. That's so cool.
Speaker 2:That's cool. All those guys that I learned so many good things when we were on. You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean Just absorbing them and watching. I mean the Okay, wait, oh, marty, I was like trying to think of the other guy, like Marty and Kirk, so Marty's out. Marty Kirk, andy and Mark Okay.
Speaker 3:And Marty is doing great. He's out. So one of my clients is Valiant, where I went to treatment. Yeah Well, the owner of Valiant and a lot of the people, the school that their kids go to, marty's like the creative director or the music guy there. Really, valor, oh that's cool. Valor, christian School, he's doing great. I know that a friend of ours I don't want this to be too inside baseball.
Speaker 2:If you're listening, we're talking about the band 4HIM.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And they, jennifer and I, have some history little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we had the same manager so, and we toured with them some but here's the thing you know.
Speaker 2:People want to know what people are like, and the for him guys and mike weaver they are better than you would think they are yeah, like if you hope, like I hope they are great.
Speaker 3:I like and you guys are this way too like I like people who don't I don't want to say this, right, but don't know who they are gotcha, you know who's like that is? Uh, stew g. Have you met stew?
Speaker 1:I do know. Yes, we used to live on the same street I want to be like stew.
Speaker 3:You're stew, g man yeah, yeah, he doesn't.
Speaker 1:He has no idea.
Speaker 3:He's even now very, very humble and and that's what I've found, like the for him guys are that way, they're just like. They're just like. I'm like hey, but you're also For Him. You know that right and they're like yeah, I mean, it's just like man, we played a show with For Him one time, and they were the close.
Speaker 1:We were the opener and they were like hey, we really don't care, you guys, we'll go first. We're like guys, they did, they just wanted to go back to the hotel.
Speaker 3:They couldn't care less.
Speaker 2:That's amazing, no ego, no, ego, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:Well, their egos were beaten out of them in.
Speaker 2:I was trying to think of what the name of the band I mean that look, I don't know any of the people who ran truth, but I know people who were in it and it sounds like slave labor.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh. I mean it is, but it launched so many careers, it's almost like go pay your dues and you're going to, because who was talking about this?
Speaker 3:Oh, Russ Lee.
Speaker 2:I know yeah.
Speaker 3:Russ Lee was. It launched his career because Roger Breland, who ran Truth, would reach out to all the churches they toured and would be like, hey, by the way, russ is doing a solo thing, you should have him at your church. Well, of course, they were like yeah. So literally his calendar was full immediately.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you've got to go and be a slave for a while. Do you talk to him?
Speaker 3:still, he's in New Song.
Speaker 1:Oh, is he back in New Song.
Speaker 2:He's back doing that. Oh, he's back in a new song, that winter jam thing. Okay, because he was in a new song when we knew him.
Speaker 1:Yes, and he left for a while he left.
Speaker 2:Okay, eddie Carswell asked me to take his place.
Speaker 1:No way, remember, yes, no.
Speaker 2:And I was like what? And he's like, I was like, no, that's amazing.
Speaker 1:No, you would have been great at that.
Speaker 2:I actually wouldn't. Those guys can really sing. I was like have you heard me sing?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, they are really really athletic singers yeah, but you've got a great voice. You know what? When I hear Hutch sing, he's got some of your tone and timbre in his voice Really. I hear you in him or him in you or whatever. Not totally, but there'll be moments where I'm like, oh, that was Jeremy, it's cool, that's so interesting.
Speaker 1:Okay, so wait a minute. So the guy that ran Truth, what was his name?
Speaker 2:Roger.
Speaker 1:He has a son named.
Speaker 2:Jeremy.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, his daughter is the girl that lives in New York. Are you serious? Yes, jeremy, I think it's Jeremy Brunelius. I think, jeremy.
Speaker 2:Brunelius think jeremy. Oh man, I gotta find out, because a girl I went to church with when I was a kid, mary price, married jeremy what? Yeah, I'll ask brian smith if I can get her number oh my gosh, that's okay let me hit you guys with some comments that we had and then we'll kind of launch oh, what was your uh lent thing?
Speaker 1:oh, at instagram and I'm doing. Okay. I've had a couple people be like okay, I'm done, you need to come back you've had had a couple of relapses. Yes, I just, but I do want to get on and like check for Hutch, cause he posts stuff and so and he's on tour and so I want to see.
Speaker 2:Plus, that's our bedtime routine. Is we watch her real?
Speaker 1:Well, not, it needs to not be, I know we are bedtime, we need better bedtime I got to get.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you get up early, okay, so uh, I'm the same, I started something and actually I'm usually pretty good at follow through, but I kind of have. I have had at least half whatever started no podcasts, and I, I mean, I was off that in like three days, sorry, jesus. Um. So this goes back to the thing we were talking about the plane crashes.
Speaker 1:You got something on your nose, okay? The plane crashes and a friend got a comment from.
Speaker 2:I think it says JetBlue or Joe Joe Blue, jetblue 354 said. Friend of mine sang at the funeral of the family who was on the plane. Wow. Mom, and dad and two girls. Sorry, joe Blue was on the plane. Wow, mom and dad and two girls. Um, sorry, joe blue, that's also also have a.
Speaker 1:Uh, I feel horrible about my yeah, don't worry about it also got a comment that somebody commented just said what is the?
Speaker 2:spirit. Somebody commented said what is the purpose of this? About our book.
Speaker 3:Well, we exactly that that actually sums it up perfectly. It really, really does. That should be our tagline.
Speaker 1:We're kind of like the Seinfeld of podcasts.
Speaker 3:He wants to keep this podcast Except for Seinfeld was funny. He wants to keep this podcast under an hour and we're like 40 minutes in and haven't even got to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's no yeah.
Speaker 2:A comment from the Paste T said Paste T. That's kind of funny Paste T, paste Tasty. This is the one where Deke was on. My dad called my older brother Beaker and still to this day that's his contact picture of my son.
Speaker 1:That's Beaker. That was Deke's original, yeah.
Speaker 2:Beaker Went to Beak, then went to Deke. That's cool A couple comments from the Sadie Clare episode.
Speaker 1:Oh, uh-oh.
Speaker 2:No, no, I mean the comments that we get when we have guests on are always.
Speaker 3:Do we ever get any hate comments?
Speaker 2:Well, we got one from MeredithCamblin896. She said Big Bird ain't lying. Tried to follow him one time after you guys gave his Insta and he definitely didn't accept my follow request. Hold on, who is it? Meredith Meredith, meredith, wow, meredith, sorry. Meredith, meredith, sorry, meredith Meredith. Meredith, alambis, meredith.
Speaker 3:Well, that's probably why I didn't follow her back with this weird screen name, the.
Speaker 1:Lamb Meredith. Alambis Meredith.
Speaker 2:Alambis.
Speaker 1:Alambis.
Speaker 2:Alambis 896.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:All right, I'll go. I'll go check that one out.
Speaker 1:Meredith Alamdis Lies, you're going to forget about it as soon as you walk out of this room. A hundred percent.
Speaker 2:Sorry. Also we uh Brian from Texas, who is a, he's great and he's every week and he did say he's glad that we're back, but we're talking about people believing that Jesus was Jesus. And he said it should have been easy for the disciples to believe Jesus was raised from the dead because they saw him do it several times.
Speaker 1:Well, that's true.
Speaker 2:Yeah, also at 341,. My prediction is Sadie Clare says why is memoir spelled wrong on these posters? He was watching it and then he wrote came up at 1742.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:This really bothers him. The memoir Sorry. He's great. I mean he'll send a comment almost every week. How sweet.
Speaker 3:I love that Big Bird's kind of catching on Big Bird.
Speaker 1:You like it. Yeah, yeah, I think so You're happy about it I do.
Speaker 3:I'm a big nickname guy. I give people nicknames I've been known to. Oh yeah, big time All right.
Speaker 1:Well, what do you got it's?
Speaker 3:like a term of endearment.
Speaker 1:He noticed we don't have nicknames.
Speaker 3:It's like a connection. I can't repeat this. Yeah, exactly, your nicknames are not repeatable.
Speaker 2:Well.
Speaker 3:I call you J-Lo, but that was because of him. But I'm trying to stop because you said you don't like it.
Speaker 1:I don't care about it.
Speaker 3:All right. Well, you told me that you don't really like it.
Speaker 2:I did yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't care, I don't remember If someone already has a nickname, I won't rename them. I won't rename them, I'll just I'll only call them by that, like I'll jump on the nickname train because it makes me feel like, oh, we got an inside bond. You know, it's all intimacy disorder stuff flaring back up.
Speaker 2:Isn't it weird how you can be married, for you guys have been 20, is that right?
Speaker 3:What year is it? 24 years in September.
Speaker 2:Okay, Isn't it weird how you can be married? Decades, and then still notice something like we do change, like I noticed this the other day when, when we first started to get to know each other, she called me jeremy, which I really liked because all my friends had shortened my name, and then it went. You know, she spent enough time around me that it went to jerem, because everybody calls me jerem, and you know, when she's downstairs she'd yell up.
Speaker 2:Sometimes it was jeremy sean, because that that's my middle name, and she'll go. Hey, jeremy sean, blah, blah, it's too long. I've noticed recently, though, when she'll yell at me from downstairs, it's not even jerem anymore, it's just a noise like you'll go yeah what? Yes, you're going to notice it next time. I do not go.
Speaker 1:You just like go Run Adam, I don't do that, you go.
Speaker 2:It's just annoying. I think it's your hearing. It is not my hearing, so it's kind of like the vowel sound of your name, but she doesn't care enough to actually dictate the.
Speaker 1:Consonants that is a bunch of crap.
Speaker 2:I promise you'll notice it, probably today.
Speaker 1:I bet I won't because it's not true, she'll yell up and go.
Speaker 2:Will you switch to the laundry or something? Yeah, yeah, but now it's just a noise.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, it's just it's because you know what I am like a sounding gong to you.
Speaker 2:Or a slow drip of water.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's what you think of me as.
Speaker 2:That's funny. Yeah, no, that that is something I've noticed. But I'm not a nagging wife.
Speaker 3:No, not at all it's fairly recent, unless you're not wearing your c-pap than she is.
Speaker 1:But or changing the laundry um.
Speaker 2:I will say she would you agree that for especially for a while there the tension was between us was at night, it's a bedtime. She is particular about her bedtime I am very particular yeah but you are such an a bullhead if she at night she have you seen the videos. She wears a mask at night, right oh? My god, we've heard this so many times if the t, if the little blue light on the TV downstairs happens to be on, she'll be like you can see it.
Speaker 1:I can feel it, I can see it Even through your mask. I can see it. Huh, I don't know. Downstairs Through walls Like no, you're wrong about the downstairs, if there's one that's Like. The internet is right over here.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:And I can see it in the hallway. It gets turned off every night, but if we forget to turn it off, it's like this green glow and I can see it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's false.
Speaker 1:Have you seen the videos of the cat? When they say no, they say don't do that, and he's in the sand. Oh, it's this cat and he's playing in this little thing of sand on the floor. I don't know why they have sand on their floor. And he said stop doing that. And he just goes insane and messes it all up and then runs off.
Speaker 3:That's Jeremy.
Speaker 1:That's who I live with.
Speaker 2:That sounds awesome. Beeson and I were talking about this, this week he goes, yeah. Beeson and I were talking about this this week and we each have. It's the first time this has happened to us, but we each have a person here in town.
Speaker 3:That can't stand. Us and this one person can't stand. Either. One of you or you both have your own person.
Speaker 2:We each have our own person, and it's kind of and I asked him whose is is and he told me and I have an experience with that guy actually, and that guy is the reason that we have a record deal with robert beason because he said to me I'd never heard the name before, Robert Beeson. But he said whatever you do, don't talk to a guy named Robert Beeson and that immediately made you want to go talk to him and we signed with Robert Beeson that weekend yeah.
Speaker 2:He wanted to sign us to a record deal and he said I'm going to need a week to get my stuff in order.
Speaker 3:But whatever you do, do not talk to robert beason.
Speaker 2:Wow, but I in my mind I go why?
Speaker 1:yeah, there's something there and yeah, investigate, and that turned out to be a good thing for you that that one did yeah, but you know you're having this thing where, like, just like you guys were talking before, we went on about you being in a thing and then somebody's texting you and being like actually you're not in it anymore. We kind of kicked you out. Okay, that text chain, what's the deal with that? Do people have like a? Do you come? Does he come across as harsh or something? Do you think people?
Speaker 2:have an issue pattern I'm asking do you?
Speaker 1:I'm asking about a person like, a person like I'm with you all the time, so I know.
Speaker 3:You're numb to it.
Speaker 1:Well, no, I don't see it at all, but I'm wondering.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, I was abrasive in my 20s. You kind of had to coach me on. Hey, you're from the Northeast.
Speaker 1:But why does that crap happen? I mean because to me the text that you got was rude and harsh and I'm like why do people feel like they can talk to you that way?
Speaker 2:Do they talk to you that way?
Speaker 1:No, that's what I'm saying. What is it about you that people feel like they can just kind of say whatever and-.
Speaker 2:And it doesn't hurt my feelings.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because it does.
Speaker 1:I know You're extremely sensitive. Maybe you project a stronger, stronger, harsher exterior that's, that's what I'm asking you, because you are, you're not, we don't really know you at all and what's funny is you're the opposite.
Speaker 3:People are just drawn to you oh really oh yeah I don't see that I'm actually really trying to be thoughtful about this. I don't have a good answer.
Speaker 1:Because I'm like what is it? Why do people just dump on him like that to his face and then just are like go about their life? And I'm like why?
Speaker 2:I was leading worship somewhere and after the thing, the pastor who's a big deal said, hey, you want to go get some dinner? And I was like, yeah, sure. And so we went to this chinese restaurant and we're sitting there and we're talking about, we're talking about like, and, and he had also wanted me to consider our family moving there to take this job, and so we're talking about that context and at one point he goes, you know what, and and I I may have said we may have been talking about, like what I would need to do or whatever. And he goes, you know what, I'll tell you everything I don't like about you. And I said, okay, let me use the bathroom first. And I got up because I was like I mean, this is so inappropriate what he's about to do, like critique my whole thing. Then I came back and he backed it down a little bit.
Speaker 2:He's kind of like hey, listen, I didn't mean everything I don't, but I'm like who says this to?
Speaker 1:somebody. That's what I'm saying. Like what is it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know, because I have only known you as a emotionally connected person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're very warm, Like I feel like we have experienced each other like that.
Speaker 3:So I don't yeah, I don't have any experience with you being like harsh or abrasive at all.
Speaker 1:I can't even picture you that way, Like I don't, I know. I know when we were on the road and we would be on tour with girl artists, they were terrified of him.
Speaker 3:Well, I've heard you say before that when you were touring. I've heard you say you were more difficult.
Speaker 1:But he wasn't. He wasn't difficult necessarily, and especially to these girls. He just didn't.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:They were just like they were like. I feel like Jeremy hates me. I'm like Jeremy hasn't given two thoughts to you. I promise you he does not hate you.
Speaker 2:You know what he's thinking, nothing.
Speaker 1:He's thinking about business, business, business. I mean he's not thinking about you, I mean so. And then they would warm up to you, but it would. At first they were scared of you.
Speaker 3:I hate that.
Speaker 1:I know you hate that yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm having trouble seeing the forest for the trees here Cause I I don't. I don't think I've got good feedback on this. I also know the person who sent you that text. I know his, I know he is a good dude and loves you, and that's what he didn't intend to be rude, I know that. Oh, I mean, I don't even know the text. I'm just saying I know, I know him well enough to know that wasn't an intention.
Speaker 2:But sorry, I shouldn't well, the thing is it, was it? It kind of was a blip, I don't know why that is your example it was just something that recently happened this is the most recent thing.
Speaker 3:So I just want when it was a good question of like self-awareness. I mean, you know why, if that, if there's a pattern that keeps happening or for whatever reason. But you're also probably like my wife gets really offended on my behalf. That's true, I do there'll be things where I don't.
Speaker 2:I'm like, yeah, it was kind of weird and she's like you know he does that for me too yeah, I mean, there's some stuff I don't want her to do, because I know I'm going to be mad at the other person yeah eventually um I work at a different place now and I work for a friend of mine and he's just very, very protective I
Speaker 3:am of my time, same for my kids. A tender-hearted guy he really is and people don't know that I don't yeah, that's the thing that I think they just think I can say whatever I want to him okay, I relate to this because I think, because I project a little more outgoing and whatever else. I've often also felt that people say things to me that I'm like you wouldn't say.
Speaker 1:You wouldn't normally say that to somebody else, yeah, I could like I've got more feelings about that than what you realize I can see that about you for sure, yeah, yeah yeah, it happens.
Speaker 3:It happened, it happened quite a bit. You know what happens a lot around is my weight.
Speaker 1:Oh what? Yeah, because I'm a big guy and I call you a big guy and you feel like it's about your weight.
Speaker 3:You call me fat I do I've? Never called. She does. You've heard it.
Speaker 1:Dude, I have never called you fat.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, he heard it.
Speaker 1:How dare you See you're not taking up for me.
Speaker 2:You guys have a good plus.
Speaker 1:I do not think you're fat.
Speaker 2:This is the most you're ever going to talk about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true, and I don't think you're fat, so why would I call you fat?
Speaker 3:Well, no, that's a joke, but that happens from time to time, where someone will come up and make a comment about it, but they're not meaning to be hurtful. They just feel like, oh, he's a dude and he's a big guy and he doesn't care, and I'm like, actually I try hard to not be fat.
Speaker 1:And also you're self-deprecating. You make fun of yourself a lot, exactly, and so people think oh, it's fair game Fair game. That's exactly right.
Speaker 3:He's going to join.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:A hundred percent, and I have to own that too, like I'll project a certain thing, and it's one of those things where you can joke. But if someone jokes back, then all of a sudden you get sensitive about it, which I don't think is fair to the person.
Speaker 1:It's not.
Speaker 3:If you're being, if you're joking about it, but that, so that's on me.
Speaker 1:No, but I mean, I know what you're saying. Sometimes people take it too far.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But hey, yeah what else do you want?
Speaker 3:to talk about.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, there's no sense in launching into it now, because it was actually like a—.
Speaker 3:I know we're 52 minutes in. Why don't.
Speaker 2:I save it for next week. Why don't next week—why don't we do the call-outs and shout-outs at the end Next week? Why don't we just get into the topic?
Speaker 3:Just jump right in.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it's good and it's something that she brought up to me and and I thought this would be good to talk about, okay, okay.
Speaker 3:Can you tease it? Then we'll talk about it next time. Give a little teaser. Oh, no, tease, all right.
Speaker 2:Well, if something happens between now and next week, I don't want to be like oh yeah, good point.
Speaker 3:But it is actually good, who knows if there will even be a next week with us Exactly knowing us Tune in whenever. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Whenever? Yeah, we might be here, why not? I hate that. I hate that. I literally know what time my podcasts come out and I'm looking at it, and so that makes me so angry. I'm sorry to the people who.
Speaker 3:And then you feel like is there something wrong with my devices and not populating? Is there something?
Speaker 1:going on and I'm like it makes me mad, especially if they don't.
Speaker 2:I think if we're giving people like that an opportunity to grow, don't you think? I just think it's rude, it's like not showing up, in my opinion. Thank you everybody for listening. You know what we could do. We could have. We could do a part two, like what if this episode ended okay, and then we pick up just kind of where we left off?
Speaker 1:I know, but how?
Speaker 3:did you start again we?
Speaker 1:didn't really have anything to say. What do you mean, we were in a lull.
Speaker 2:When were we in a lull? Just now? How do we lull for 50 minutes?
Speaker 1:After that Anyway.
Speaker 2:Well, you want to just keep going. People can always just turn it off.
Speaker 1:No, that's okay. I think they have already. You want to Joe Rogan it oh gosh, no Gosh.
Speaker 2:I don't want a Joe Rogan, but well, it's not like he's not doing very well. What does he know?
Speaker 1:What does he know?
Speaker 2:Joe Rogan Pssh. It's working, I think what if somebody like that came on? Sorry, I was drinking man. What if somebody like that came on our podcast?
Speaker 3:Like what if we could?
Speaker 1:just land a shark, gosh. Can you imagine, joe Rogan? That's a whale.
Speaker 3:Well, that would be weird. We'd go from that's a whale. Let's try to get Dutton on Spencer. Let's get Spencer on with RFK Jr Spencer.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, If we got RFK Jr.
Speaker 2:Jennifer would explode and Spencer Dutton I would die. She might like.
Speaker 1:But I want Spencer Dutton to come on. I don't want the stupid actor who's probably a total douche.
Speaker 3:Okay, he's listening. Also, she's said douche a lot this episode.
Speaker 1:What is with me?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't use that word she said that about my assistant, and she's also been wearing a lot of scarves I have.
Speaker 1:Well, I got called Scarf Lady, so now I'm leaning into it.
Speaker 3:Maybe that's why I should lean into the fat comments. Just blow up like a balloon.
Speaker 1:Just go for it, don't try anymore.
Speaker 3:Just go nuts. Within a year, I think I could get to 700.
Speaker 1:You think you could be on the show?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think you'd have to cut me out of the side of the house. Nice, you should go for it.
Speaker 1:Have you ever watched my 600-lb Life you?
Speaker 3:should go for it. Have you ever watched my 600-pound life? Yes, I watch it. That doctor, oh he's hilarious. You have gained too much weight. You're fat, you're fat.
Speaker 1:You're fat.
Speaker 3:He's like a little robot.
Speaker 1:He's crazy.
Speaker 3:No bedside manner, zero. He just cuts them down.
Speaker 1:She's like I don't really like to eat.
Speaker 2:He's like oh, you like to eat. You're fat, then why are you gaining weight? Yeah, he's horrible. All right, I like him.
Speaker 1:I know it's funny.
Speaker 3:Dr Now.
Speaker 1:He will watch that show. It's so weird for me that you watch that show.
Speaker 3:I love that show, and I love Pimple Popper too.
Speaker 1:You love what?
Speaker 3:Pimple Popper.
Speaker 1:You do.
Speaker 3:Love it, I would have never thought popper, love it. Actually. I looked at one pimple popper thing on instagram and now the algorithm thinks that I want to see all of them, and it's right.
Speaker 1:Oh, I do want to see all of them. Are you a pop? Are you a picker? Of my own of any, or do you like to pick?
Speaker 3:yeah, for sure, I have to I knew I liked you yeah, fat pimply guy Shut up, fat pimple popper.
Speaker 1:Fat pimple popper. Hey, you can get your own show you could be a crossover.
Speaker 3:The 600 pound pimple popper Big 600 pound dude with pimples that you pop.
Speaker 1:No, they come to you.
Speaker 3:Right and pop my pimples. You want the?
Speaker 1:600 pound pimple popper.
Speaker 3:Oh, I'm popping the pimples at 600 pounds, but they have to come to me because I can't get out of bed.
Speaker 1:You can't get out of the house.
Speaker 3:That's amazing.
Speaker 1:And then they tell you you're fat.
Speaker 3:You're fat, it's like, well, you have acne.
Speaker 1:Okay, you know some of those people it ends with just insulting one another and then you leave. It's a roast.
Speaker 2:Well, some of those people come into her office and she's like what are you here? For.
Speaker 1:And you're like dude, come on.
Speaker 2:This basketball-sized tumor on my neck maybe?
Speaker 3:You didn't notice it so tell me what's going on with you, Quasimodo. I have no clue. What would bring you here she gets that little scalpel and cuts that. Oh, it's awesome, some of them are too big.
Speaker 1:I love pimples, but I can't do lipomas.
Speaker 3:Oh, the lipomas are awesome, those bother me.
Speaker 2:And then the guy with the fat people. He's like, okay, look, maybe we'll do the surgery, but you got lose 300 pounds. 60 pounds in the next three months oh, that's it and, and he'll tell them exactly what to do, and they'll come back and they'll stand on that scale, which is like one of the ones at the airport, and they've gained weight yeah, how's that possible? Gosh, it's so he's like well you have to go home now and lose some more weight. And they're like oh doctor, why?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm like and it's always the significant other that's sneaking them Cheetos.
Speaker 1:It really is.
Speaker 3:They're enablers, you're like you can't move, so you can't even get the food. Yeah, so if someone would just stop bringing it to you, you wouldn't be able to eat.
Speaker 2:It's very sad to me.
Speaker 3:I've watched a couple, though that do the work and it's awesome. I remember when Biggest Loser came out for the first time and it was an emotional show Remember that one, I remember it Didn't that one guy have a heart attack.
Speaker 1:No, like the one trainer guy, he had a heart attack.
Speaker 3:Bummer.
Speaker 1:Here he's telling all these obese people what to do to save their heart yeah, but skinny people have heart attacks I know, but it was like a shock because he was supposed to be in great shape and blah, blah, blah blah yeah, I'm man.
Speaker 2:I am sorry that she has been so hurtful to you I just want to tough.
Speaker 3:I am, I brace myself every time here's the thing. That's why he doesn't show up here and she's an abler because she keeps feeding me eggs. I'm the abrasive jerk, but I'd never say that to you? No, you wouldn't dare.
Speaker 2:Now somebody would say it to me for sure.
Speaker 3:You actually said you were attracted to me oh he's into you Well you didn't say it like that, but that's how I received it, although.
Speaker 2:I had a gay day with somebody else and we had a great time.
Speaker 1:That sounds real bad. You had a gay day and you had a great time. No, I'm just saying it sounds like you went gay for a day.
Speaker 2:No, I didn't Like, you tried it out, but a friend of mine, okay. So, joel, friend of the show, joel's wife, kate, went out of town for a while and when she came home it's kind of a treat for him she got him a day at the South Hall. The new place over there and he said, hey, man, would you want to go?
Speaker 1:with me. It's like at the spa.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the spa Spa day, and it was for that day. I was like I'm not using my phone today and I just read and just enjoyed the place.
Speaker 1:I bet that was amazing. It really was. You sat by a pool. What did you do?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so they have a pool that's the size of an actual pool, but it's a jacuzzi mineral bath that it's got jets on the side, and when I say jets, I'm not talking like ones that you have in your bathtub, like it blew my pants off of my body.
Speaker 3:Sir, can you please put your trunks back on? I pulled them up from my knees.
Speaker 2:Are you serious? Yeah, no one saw me, and it's got like bubbles.
Speaker 1:it is so great and you guys didn't get massages and things. It was just sitting by the mineral pool, yeah, and there's a, you can sit in the sauna and that kind of thing sauna and they have some gazebos out there where you can like.
Speaker 2:Joel is a like a whiskey connoisseur and he brought some good whiskey and we just sat and just not a gazebo, a cabana, something like that. No, it was like a whiskey connoisseur and he brought some good whiskey and we just sat and just Not a gazebo, a cabana. Something like that. No, it was like a big wooden and had a fireplace in it.
Speaker 3:I've never been out there, but I heard it's beautiful.
Speaker 2:Well, you can't go unless you're.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have to have a reservation at a restaurant or a hotel.
Speaker 3:You cannot go. These people came in you can get a day pass, though I think that might be what we got. You can buy a day pass.
Speaker 1:Yes, you can, but you cannot go in without.
Speaker 3:You can't just show up with your towel and be like I'm here.
Speaker 1:You can't just show up and go. I just want to see the place. We tried that. It doesn't work.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:I had these people come in because I work at a store now and they came in and they were here for they rented a cabin which is a bazillion dollars.
Speaker 3:Oh, they have cabins there. Yes, private cabins.
Speaker 1:They were there the night of all the tornadoes. They came and got them out of the cabin. They sat all night in the basement.
Speaker 3:No that sucks After spending all that money, and I was like are they going to give you money?
Speaker 1:They were like we don't know. It was an act of God kind of thing they would have to make.
Speaker 2:it's great, though, like they didn't oh my gosh, like the place is really relaxing and the restaurant is like food that they grew like you can see that, yeah, it's great I mean that sounds amazing.
Speaker 3:It was a great day. I've done that one time. I didn't call it gay day, though. We mean and the same guy's talking about kyle our wives happened to be out of town at the same time. We did the the same thing, we just called it no Obligation Saturday. Did you go to Southall?
Speaker 1:No, oh no, he's never been there.
Speaker 3:We watched John Wick movies all day.
Speaker 1:That's a great day. Oh nice, we did that one day Actually.
Speaker 3:John Wick. I think three was in the theater, so we watched one and two, we're going to spend all day together and we're literally not going to do anything that feels like an obligation. Nice, there's no obligation Saturday. I love that. It was one of the best days of our lives. So we watched the John we chain, smoked, the John Wick movies went to the theater. But I will say, watching John Wick all day will desensitize you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Pop pop. You know what I think I could have killed somebody.
Speaker 3:Do not kill john wick's dog. And just like word to the wise, yeah, but I just I like watching all that because it was so gory I was. I was like, I was desensitized.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're like I could totally take, and and you feel, like I wanted to I can probably fight like that 100 oh yeah I'm sure I'm sure you can
Speaker 2:I just throw my weight around exactly all right, all right, I got to go potty.
Speaker 3:We're over an hour or two oh my gosh, part two coming up Everybody thank you for listening.
Speaker 2:We're going to. Next time will be probably more Jennifer, because I'm going to be asking her a lot about this thing that she's doing. Oh, no, see you, bye-bye, bye-bye.