WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.399 Welcome to Gateway Churches Podcast. 00:00:02.560 --> 00:00:06.959 Wherever you're tuning in from, we hope you're encouraged by today's message. 00:00:09.759 --> 00:00:10.880 What's up? 00:00:11.759 --> 00:00:12.880 What's up? 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:16.719 Thank you. 00:00:16.879 --> 00:00:17.440 Thank you. 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:18.399 Thank you. 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:20.559 Thank you so much. 00:00:21.280 --> 00:00:23.679 It is awesome to be here. 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:28.399 Did you say laugh with me or at me when I was on TV? 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:31.199 One of those. 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:37.200 Yeah, thank you, Pastor, for asking me to come. 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:40.799 They did give me that piece of nerve in a jar, so I had that. 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:43.359 They gave that to me as a gift, which I thought was cool. 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:46.479 It's just a reminder to not blow my back out. 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:50.479 So I'm going to take that home and cherish that. 00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:58.000 It is an honor to be here for the, I believe it's the summer of giants, which is amazing. 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:03.759 Looking at the other speakers, I'm not, you know, I can't. 00:01:04.079 --> 00:01:06.719 What did Paul say as one abnormally born? 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:17.280 I came from reality TV, so I was not a big pastor or a speaker, but out of the group, I saw the photos, I believe I looked the most like John the Baptist. 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:32.000 So I crawled out of the woods with my animal skins on, eating weird stuff, and I'm pointing people to Jesus. 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:34.799 I'm gonna take the same route that he did. 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:40.879 Um have you ever been asked uh some dumb questions? 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:44.799 Is that a dumb question? 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:47.680 I'm gonna tell you I have. 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:51.519 For sure, I've been asked some interesting questions. 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:56.400 I'd say I get a lot of questions all the time, especially since the television show. 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:58.640 Uh it's like, can we get a picture? 00:01:58.799 --> 00:01:59.920 That's a normal one. 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:01.519 Um, I get this one a lot. 00:02:01.680 --> 00:02:06.239 Hey, has anyone ever told you you look just like one of those Dunk Dynasty guys? 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:09.439 Believe it or not, I get that all the time. 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:12.400 I get, hey, are you Zach Brown? 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:16.879 Uh one of my favorites. 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:24.639 I was at the Houston Airport, and this lady's like screaming, hey, and she's running after me, and I turned around, I was like, wow, she really wants a picture. 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:28.639 And she goes, Are you Zach Galaphonakis? 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:33.520 To which I said no. 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:45.759 Um, the one I get a lot recently is I'll have the younger next generation come up to me and go, Oh my gosh, are you Sadie Huff's dad? 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:48.080 And I say I am. 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:50.719 Sadie's here, and so I'm excited to be here. 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:56.159 I was at a gas station um uh about a year ago, and I was coming out of the woods. 00:02:56.240 --> 00:02:57.599 I'm in camouflage. 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:04.719 I walk in there, I was really uh in a hurry, and she goes, Hey, uh has anyone ever told you you look just like one of those Duck Dynasty guys? 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.280 I said, I get that all the time, and she said, I bet you do. 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:09.120 She goes, I know one of them. 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:11.039 And I said, Oh, who do you know? 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:12.560 And she said, Willie. 00:03:16.879 --> 00:03:18.960 I said, Wow, what's he like? 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:23.120 Which is kind of risky, you never know. 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:25.199 She said, Oh, he's cool, we've been friends for a while. 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:26.639 He comes in there all the time, he hunts near. 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:27.759 I said, Yeah, that's what I heard. 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:28.639 And I walked out. 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:29.360 Bye. 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:37.280 Isn't it sad when someone doesn't know you and they think they know you? 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:38.560 That's kind of sad. 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:49.520 Uh, in the history of greatest turns ever from a pulpit, I'm gonna read a scripture now that will be completely different, but it made me think of that, and it's what I want to talk about today. 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:50.639 We'll start right here. 00:03:50.879 --> 00:04:01.280 Matthew 7 uh says, Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:09.280 Many will say on that day, Lord, Lord, did not we prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons, and in your name perform many miracles. 00:04:09.439 --> 00:04:15.599 Then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you away from me, you evildoers. 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:27.439 Um, I did kind of think about that person who says, I know you, and I started thinking, Man, when I get to heaven, I certainly want Jesus to know me for sure. 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:31.360 But I realized one thing, and this is what I want to talk to you about today. 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:37.040 If we want him to know us, we better be for sure we know him, right? 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:39.680 We need to know who he is. 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:43.600 So I was hunting in a small town in uh Kansas. 00:04:43.839 --> 00:04:45.920 I was coming in on a deer hunt. 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:50.639 I got there a day early and they were having a little Bible study before a little men's group, and and I wasn't leading it. 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:52.160 My buddy said, Hey, sit in with us. 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:58.000 So I just sat there, I was listening, and um guys were chit-chatting, they're reading verses and everything, and it was cool. 00:04:58.240 --> 00:05:04.720 And uh there was a guy named Jake, and Jake said, Um, hey guys, I'm so glad I came here tonight. 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:06.879 He said, You know, I was heading to the bar. 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:15.759 I was gonna try to pick up a gal for the night, but then I remembered there was a Bible study, and I came here, and I'm so glad I did. 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:17.040 This has been awesome. 00:05:17.279 --> 00:05:22.240 And it the the Holy Spirit moved on me and said, Willie, you need to talk to Jake. 00:05:22.480 --> 00:05:27.519 Um now, sometimes I feel like, you know, we feel like the spirit moves in such mysterious ways. 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:28.879 This was not that mysterious. 00:05:29.040 --> 00:05:33.759 He was heading to a bar to look for a woman, and so it's easy for me to say, I think I need to talk to you. 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:38.560 So we set this up, and my buddy set it up where I was gonna hunt at his place. 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:42.399 Jake was gonna pick me up, and we were gonna go and chit-chat on the ride. 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:49.040 So he picks me up, and I mean, as soon as we got in that car, I started asking him a bunch of questions about his life. 00:05:49.279 --> 00:06:00.319 And we talked the whole way and we pulled up to where I was gonna hunt, and he uh he looks over and he's just sitting there and he said, Willie, I think I need to get baptized. 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:02.079 And I said, That's awesome. 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:03.920 Well, good, let's go right now. 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:05.279 And he goes, No, no, no. 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:06.959 We can, I'll let you hunt. 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:10.480 And I said, Well, go find us some water somewhere back up in town. 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:12.959 And he pointed at a little cow pond. 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:14.959 He said, What about right there? 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:22.720 Now it's November and 18 degrees in Kansas, and I realized quickly he doesn't know how this works, okay? 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:27.839 I said, Well, okay, if you want to go there, we can go there. 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:30.480 He said, I'll go get some towels and stuff and I'll be back. 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:32.399 So I hunted, I didn't see any deer. 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:36.959 Obviously, God kept the deer away because we couldn't be sidetracked with that kind of thing. 00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:38.879 And sure enough, Jake pulls back up. 00:06:38.959 --> 00:06:41.839 He's got me a pair of waders, which is awesome. 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:43.519 And he says, You ready? 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:44.959 And I said, Yeah, I'm ready. 00:06:45.040 --> 00:06:47.360 And so I told him everything before we went down in there. 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:51.279 And I said, Here's what's gonna happen, here's what I'm gonna say, we're gonna make it real quick. 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:54.800 And I said, Jake, I'm telling you, man, we we get out there, you're gonna die. 00:06:54.879 --> 00:06:57.360 And he said, I know, you told me the old self is gonna die. 00:06:57.439 --> 00:06:59.759 I said, No, no, no, you're really gonna die. 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:03.839 We get in that water, it's gonna be cold. 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:05.600 He said, I live here. 00:07:05.920 --> 00:07:08.720 I said, All right, so we start trudging out there. 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:16.959 I get him up to baptize him, but I realize when they call this a cow pond, there's not a lot of water in it. 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:18.720 The water's really shallow. 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:21.439 Most of it is mud and cow manure. 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:24.560 But we're already there, right? 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:28.959 So I get that sucker down, I get there and I realize it wasn't hard. 00:07:29.120 --> 00:07:31.680 I just shoved his face right into that manure. 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:37.279 I don't know how bad his life was, but it must have been bad. 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:42.560 And when he when he came up out of there, it wasn't like doves lighting or anything like that. 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:44.319 It wasn't even angelic. 00:07:44.480 --> 00:07:52.879 It looked like he had seen either the face of the Lord or the face of the devil, and he looked like he just walked across that water as he ran out of there. 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:58.639 But he came to the Lord, he'll never forget it. 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:02.879 His life was changed right there in that cow pasture. 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:06.160 I wrote a book this year, and it's stories like that. 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:09.120 It's stories about just sharing our faith. 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:10.560 How do we share our faith? 00:08:10.720 --> 00:08:13.519 How do we talk to others, and how do those kind of things happen? 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:18.319 I go through just some simple scriptures about stuff that I tell people, and that'll be in there. 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:22.480 And basically, if you boil it down, I'm trying to get people Jesus. 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:25.680 I want to get them Jesus no matter what. 00:08:25.920 --> 00:08:30.399 Because I know when Jesus comes in the equation, there can be life change right there. 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:31.040 All right. 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:36.159 I know that's the power of who I serve and who I follow, and that's Jesus. 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:40.799 But the last thing I'm looking for is I'm looking for a changed life. 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:42.639 I'm looking for then what? 00:08:42.879 --> 00:08:43.440 Then what? 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:47.440 Up there in the scripture we were at earlier, it said, who does the will of the Lord? 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:48.559 How do we walk? 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:56.000 It's not just the things that we're not supposed to do, but what about the good things that we can do and will do for Jesus Christ? 00:08:56.159 --> 00:08:58.399 That's that changed life. 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:10.159 Because if we don't watch out, we we get Jesus, we have a life change, and then all of a sudden it looks like it's way back in our past somewhere, and we're like, yeah, remember when we got really fired up? 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:13.440 And I'm looking for that changed life that just keeps going. 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:14.639 Think about Peter. 00:09:14.879 --> 00:09:19.919 Think about when Peter, when Jesus said, Hey, come follow me and I'll make you fishers of men. 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:23.360 And then we can actually read that changed life of Peter. 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:28.559 It has its ups and its downs, but I mean, we we see a life that is completely different. 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:29.519 Think about Saul. 00:09:29.600 --> 00:09:30.720 That one's obvious, right? 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:32.559 He was murdering Christians. 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:38.559 He sees Jesus, he becomes a believer in Jesus, and then we watch that changed life. 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:45.840 He writes letters, he preaches sermons, he goes to jail, he is sold out and living a changed life for Jesus. 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:48.080 Now, not everybody takes him up on that. 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:50.799 Remember when Jesus ran into the rich, young ruler? 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:52.240 This was a great guy. 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:55.600 He had a great resume, probably better than mine. 00:09:56.000 --> 00:09:59.279 And when he got offered to live that changed life, what'd he say? 00:09:59.519 --> 00:10:00.080 No way. 00:10:00.240 --> 00:10:01.759 I think about Zacchaeus. 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:06.799 Jesus went to his house and he said, Hey, look, I'm coming to your house. 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:10.399 And Zacchaeus says, I'm ready to live a changed life. 00:10:10.639 --> 00:10:16.559 And Jesus looks at him and says, This is why I came, was to seek and save what was lost. 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:20.000 Those kind of things excite me. 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:26.080 It's seeing a life change, but then I love watching that changed life. 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:30.720 Because see, a changed, uh life change affects you. 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:35.200 When you get Jesus Christ, that affects your life, and that's awesome. 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:39.360 But a changed life affects everybody else. 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:43.919 Then we're spreading it, then we're passing it, then we're passing it on. 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:46.799 I love stories, and this is where we're going to camp out today. 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:50.559 This is one of my favorite stories in the book of Acts, Acts chapter 8. 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:52.080 This is Philip. 00:10:52.159 --> 00:10:54.320 Uh Philip's little journey. 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.320 I don't know if you know about Philip. 00:10:56.559 --> 00:10:57.759 I love Philip. 00:10:57.840 --> 00:11:02.240 Uh, in fact, when I get to heaven, he'll probably be one of the first ones I go to see. 00:11:03.039 --> 00:11:06.720 Because I figure the lines will be really long for Peter and Paul and all those guys. 00:11:06.799 --> 00:11:08.480 So I'm running to Philip. 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:11.679 I don't like waiting in long lines, so I'm gonna go right there. 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:13.039 And I got a lot of questions. 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:15.440 And I want to know especially about this story. 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:16.159 It's amazing. 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:17.200 Acts chapter 8. 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:22.000 We're gonna read it and uh uh pay attention to this story because it's amazing. 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:28.639 Now, an angel of the Lord said to Philip, Go south to the road, the desert road that goes from Jerusalem to Gaza. 00:11:28.799 --> 00:11:38.960 So he started out, and on his way he met an Ethiopian eunuch, an important official in charge of the treasury of the Kandak, which means queen of the Ethiopians. 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:46.639 This man had gone to Jerusalem to worship and was on his way home, was sitting in his chariot reading the book of Isaiah the prophet. 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:50.720 The spirit told Philip, Go to that chariot and stay near it. 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:55.279 Then Philip ran to the chariot and heard the man reading, Isaiah the prophet. 00:11:55.759 --> 00:11:57.519 Do you understand what you're reading? 00:11:57.679 --> 00:11:58.639 Philip asked. 00:11:58.879 --> 00:12:01.600 How can I unless someone explains it to me? 00:12:01.759 --> 00:12:04.480 So he invited Philip to come and sit with him. 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:07.519 This is the passage of Scripture the eunuch was reading. 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:13.600 He was led like a sheep to the slaughter, as a lamb before the shear is silent, so he did not open his mouth. 00:12:13.840 --> 00:12:17.360 In his humiliation, he was deprived of justice. 00:12:17.519 --> 00:12:19.600 Who can speak of his descendants? 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:22.480 For his life was taken from the earth. 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.320 The eunuch asked Philip, Tell me, please, who is the prophet talking about? 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:28.480 Himself or someone else? 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:34.879 Then Philip began with that very passage of Scripture and told him the good news about Jesus. 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:35.759 Amen. 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:40.720 As they traveled along the road, they came to some water, and the eunuch said, Look, here's water. 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:44.000 What can stand in the way of my being baptized? 00:12:44.240 --> 00:12:46.399 And he gave orders to stop the chariot. 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:50.559 Then both Philip and the eunuch went into the water, and Philip baptized him. 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:58.799 When they came up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord suddenly took Philip away, and the eunuch did not see him again, but went on his way, rejoicing. 00:12:59.039 --> 00:13:07.200 Philip, however, appeared at Azetus and traveled about preaching the gospel in all the towns until he reached Caesarea. 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:09.679 What a story. 00:13:09.919 --> 00:13:13.039 It's only two people in the story, but what a story. 00:13:13.120 --> 00:13:15.840 There's so much here that I want to talk about. 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:24.240 I can read this over and over and over, and I learned so much from that one little thing there about how you talk to people about their faith. 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:26.159 Two people in the story. 00:13:26.399 --> 00:13:27.440 Now here's a question. 00:13:27.519 --> 00:13:29.039 We're gonna do a lot of questions today. 00:13:29.200 --> 00:13:30.080 Questions for you. 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:31.440 Here's a question for you. 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:34.559 Which one do you resonate with in the story? 00:13:35.120 --> 00:13:43.840 Do you feel like you're more like the Ethiopian who you're trying to do the right things, but there's a lot of things you just don't really quite understand? 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:46.720 Or do you feel more like Philip? 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:52.000 Who's out just telling as many people as you can about the gospel, you're being bold and confident. 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:54.960 That's something for you to think about as we talk today. 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:57.759 And you may not even make that decision today. 00:13:57.919 --> 00:13:59.360 This could be throughout the summer. 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:00.559 Let that sit on you. 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:04.080 Because I feel like a lot of things, I think, in my mind are a lot of times they're questions. 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:06.240 I'm asking myself things all the time. 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:07.279 Am I doing the right thing? 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:07.919 Am I good? 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:10.559 You know, and so questions will dominate that. 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:13.120 I came to Dallas uh about a month ago. 00:14:13.279 --> 00:14:19.279 I flew in uh to the airport, and it was really late at night, so it was like three in the morning, and I had to get an Uber car. 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:25.440 And I'm hoping somebody that drives an Uber car is awake in Dallas to take me to the hotel I need to go to. 00:14:25.679 --> 00:14:32.960 But sure enough, car pulls up, guys putting the luggage in, and uh I get in the car, and I'm gonna tell y'all something. 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:35.279 I've gotten in a lot of Uber cars in my life. 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:36.799 I've never had this happen. 00:14:37.039 --> 00:14:43.519 There was worship music playing at three in the morning on his car, and I'm blown away. 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:46.960 I'm like, yeah, got some worship. 00:14:47.279 --> 00:14:48.799 So I couldn't wait to talk to the guy. 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:54.399 So the guy gets in the car, and just like Philip, I'm like, I'm gonna ask this guy some questions. 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:58.639 So he sits in his car and I said, Hey, are you a believer? 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:07.600 And he looks up in the rearview mirror at me, and I'm I mean, I'm not a scary looking guy, but it's three in the morning and I'm asking to see a believer. 00:15:16.320 --> 00:15:18.879 I certainly didn't say, Do you want to go fish for men? 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:25.279 I didn't say that, so I said, Are you a believer? 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:28.879 And he just looks up and I can see his eyes, and he said, Yes. 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:30.960 And I picked up on an accent. 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:32.000 I said, That's awesome. 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:33.120 I said, Where are you from? 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:35.039 He said, Ethiopia. 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:39.679 I was so excited. 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:49.360 I was like, I was just telling my friends about that Philip and the Ethiopian in Acts chapter 9, and he looks up at me and he stared at me and goes, Chapter 8. 00:15:54.799 --> 00:15:56.879 I said, I'm sure you're right. 00:15:57.039 --> 00:16:01.600 I'm sure I didn't double check, but if I were from Ethiopia, but he lives right here in Dallas. 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:04.879 We talked about his faith journey in the middle of the night. 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:12.000 I get asked questions all the time, um, but I got some questions the other day, I'm gonna tell you this story. 00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:13.600 Um, because it's too funny. 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:17.840 Um, so I spoke last week I spoke at a big business conference in Nashville. 00:16:17.919 --> 00:16:23.120 It was Dave Ramsey's uh entre leadership thing, and I was really excited to be there to be one of the speakers. 00:16:23.200 --> 00:16:27.679 And so I spoke on like Thursday, and the next day uh was a guy named Jordan Peterson. 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:30.399 Uh I don't know if you've heard of this guy. 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:33.919 Um yeah, he's like, if you don't know, he's like the smartest guy in the world. 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.679 He's Canadian, and um and so my wife's a big fan of his. 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:53.679 And Corey was supposed to be there, but she wasn't able to make it, and so I hung around because I wanted to hear him speak, and and I I I didn't understand a lot of what he said, but I get, you know, I got his effort and um uh a little bit higher level, uh grade level than mine. 00:16:54.559 --> 00:16:58.000 Um so they said, Willie, we won't you meet Jordan? 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:01.120 And and I said, Oh, Corey's gonna be so excited, I'm gonna get to meet him. 00:17:01.200 --> 00:17:09.279 So we go backstage, so he speaks, we're backstage, and I stand there, and we go up and they go, uh, hey Jordan, this is Willie Robertson. 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:13.119 And and he goes, Hello, and I can tell you he doesn't know who I am at all. 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:16.960 And he goes, Hello, you know, and I said, Hey, I said, good speech, man. 00:17:17.039 --> 00:17:18.960 Uh, my wife's a big fan of yours. 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:20.319 Uh that was cool. 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:24.160 And so that now we're gonna have like some some chit chat with Jordan Peterson. 00:17:24.400 --> 00:17:27.039 And uh so here's the first question he asked. 00:17:27.200 --> 00:17:30.640 Uh, so so what are you doing at the conference? 00:17:33.119 --> 00:17:34.079 Normal question. 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:36.799 I said, Oh, hey, I was one of the speakers. 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:53.119 Uh he looked me up and down, like, and I knew what he was thinking, like, he goes, Oh, oh wow. 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:57.440 Um now the second question is a little offensive. 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:01.440 He said, Did you speak to the whole group? 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:06.799 What? 00:18:07.200 --> 00:18:13.039 The whole I think you thought there was like a maintenance section in the back. 00:18:16.720 --> 00:18:24.720 Like we were talking about tearing the tables and chairs down, and I'm like, yeah, I spoke the same stage you were on. 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:25.519 I spoke. 00:18:25.599 --> 00:18:27.440 I wanted to say, welcome to America, Mr. 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:30.960 Peterson, where guys like me can speak on the same stage as guys like you. 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:39.200 But I did. 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:43.039 I was like, yeah, anyway, we're just two speakers here talking. 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:47.200 So the third question, I got him. 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:48.559 I got him on the third one. 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:51.359 So then he said, Well, what was your topic? 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:58.000 Uh and I looked at him as serious as I could, and I said, neuroscience and Canadian politics. 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:08.480 And for the first time in Jordan Peterson's life, he was speechless. 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:18.079 And everybody starts laughing around us because they realize I'm jabbing at him, and he's looking at he doesn't get it on. 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:20.400 I go, I'm just joking with you, man. 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:28.079 I've I gave him some backwood business insights, and he was like, Oh, okay, then they told him who I was, and then it all makes sense. 00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:32.000 But those were some funny questions that I got from Jordan Peterson. 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:40.319 Um there's two big questions in this story that I want you to pay attention to. 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:41.920 Two big questions. 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:44.559 Um again, questions are important. 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:50.960 The question when Phillips says, Do you understand what you're reading? 00:19:51.440 --> 00:19:53.279 What a great question. 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:57.039 You know, sometimes I think we just ask the wrong questions to people. 00:19:57.279 --> 00:19:58.880 We don't ask good questions. 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:04.240 So we can't dig down to actually have a great conversation because we start out with a bad question. 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:06.079 That's a great question. 00:20:06.240 --> 00:20:12.960 Um, like sometimes we may ask, like, we see someone and we're like, especially if we're really fired up and we go, hey, do you go to church? 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:17.039 And I don't know what exactly we're we're wanting the answer to be. 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:18.400 Is it yes or no? 00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:21.359 If it's yes, it's like, oh great, high five, brother. 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:22.880 And then they walk down the road. 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:25.359 If it's no, then we invite them to our church, right? 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:35.359 But actually, guys, whether or not people go to a church at a certain place at a certain time really does not indicate whether or not they are a believer and follower of Jesus Christ. 00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:37.680 All right, that's a news flash, okay? 00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:42.319 So it's probably a bad question, but it may could open something up. 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:44.799 But he asked him, Do you understand what you're reading? 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:46.160 That's a great question. 00:20:46.400 --> 00:20:51.680 The other is when he says, tell me, is he talking about himself or someone else? 00:20:52.079 --> 00:20:54.559 That tells my ears he's searching. 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:56.319 He's searching for something. 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:02.319 Remember, he had gone to worship and was reading the Bible. 00:21:03.680 --> 00:21:09.359 Well, if I were to show, that's okay, let me put it today, 2023, right outside this building. 00:21:09.759 --> 00:21:14.240 Someone leaves here and they're at the stoplight reading their Bible. 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:19.440 Well, I'm gonna, I may even question the spirit going, are we sure here that this is the guy? 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:21.359 Because he looks really fired up. 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:23.680 But he still asks a question. 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:28.480 He still asks a question, even though he looked like he was doing all the right things. 00:21:28.640 --> 00:21:32.960 So, people, we gotta make sure we dig in and ask the questions. 00:21:33.200 --> 00:21:37.839 Make sure we know do people really know who Jesus Christ is? 00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:40.480 Even when our eyes tell us, well, they look fun. 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:41.920 How many times does that happen? 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:43.519 Go, I thought they were great. 00:21:43.599 --> 00:21:46.400 I saw them at church, and yeah, and then what happens? 00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:49.119 There's something going on inside of their life. 00:21:49.279 --> 00:21:52.160 And we're gonna start right here with that and think about this. 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:58.799 Here's the question for you Who or what is leading your life? 00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:02.079 Who or what is leading your life? 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:05.440 Because the Bible tells us what was leading Spirit? 00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:07.039 What was leading Philip? 00:22:07.200 --> 00:22:08.000 The Spirit. 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:11.279 The Spirit led him to go down there. 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:14.880 So my question for you is who or what is leading your life? 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:19.200 Is it the Spirit of God leading your life or something else? 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:22.640 Because think about how your day starts out. 00:22:22.799 --> 00:22:23.839 What do you do every day? 00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:24.960 What do you do in the morning? 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:26.319 How do you get prepared for the day? 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:28.400 How do you get prepared for the week? 00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:32.880 Think about how much do you ask for the Spirit to talk to the Spirit to pray? 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:35.920 When Nick was here, he talked about fasting and praying. 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:46.960 Or how much do we get up and we start looking through emails and we start looking through social media and we start looking through all the things and we watch the news and we see what's happening in the government? 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:50.319 No wonder we're all screwed up. 00:22:51.119 --> 00:22:54.319 Because we're being led by the wrong thing. 00:22:54.880 --> 00:23:00.559 That is leading us, whether you know it or not, whether you like it or not, I'm telling you, that leads us. 00:23:00.720 --> 00:23:02.880 Have you ever been led by your finances? 00:23:03.680 --> 00:23:06.720 Have you ever been led by how much money you have and your job? 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:20.000 And I mean, we will literally build our whole week around a job and how much money we make, and we look at our kids and we wonder why they look at us, going, is really this faith thing a big deal? 00:23:20.319 --> 00:23:25.359 Because a lot of what you guys talk about is finances, job, money. 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:27.519 Does culture lead us? 00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:31.920 Social media lead you to tell you what to think? 00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:36.160 Have you ever looked up and been in the wrong place and been like, how did I get here? 00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:38.240 Are you led by fear? 00:23:38.960 --> 00:23:44.720 It wasn't too long ago when that COVID crisis said, we found out who was led by fear, right? 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:47.440 Bunch of people sat in here said, bye. 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:49.200 We're gone. 00:23:49.680 --> 00:23:50.720 Led by fear. 00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:53.519 What does government politics, what do they lead with? 00:23:53.759 --> 00:23:54.400 Fear. 00:23:55.359 --> 00:23:56.240 Finances. 00:23:56.480 --> 00:23:57.839 See how they motivate that? 00:23:58.000 --> 00:23:59.200 See how they push that? 00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:02.559 And then we look up and we're led by fear and we're scared to death. 00:24:02.799 --> 00:24:05.039 Some of you guys, I'm telling you, you're scared to death. 00:24:05.119 --> 00:24:10.559 You think literally our human existence is based on whoever becomes the next president or not. 00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:11.359 Alright? 00:24:11.759 --> 00:24:12.880 That's not faith. 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:14.480 That's not being led by the spirit. 00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:16.799 That's being led by people and what we can see. 00:24:17.039 --> 00:24:19.839 We gotta be led by the Spirit of God. 00:24:26.480 --> 00:24:32.799 Galatians 5.25 says, since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:36.400 Because it is so easy to get out of step with the Spirit. 00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:40.480 We are so distracted, especially the next generation. 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:41.519 Can you imagine? 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:47.039 I'm so glad I did not grow up with cell phones and social media and all this. 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:48.960 It really is a blessing. 00:24:50.079 --> 00:24:52.319 Here's a little tip for you if you're unsure. 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:56.480 When I'm led by the Spirit, I'm led to help other people. 00:24:56.720 --> 00:25:01.039 When I'm not being led by the Spirit, I tend to focus in on myself. 00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:11.680 So if you're focused in on yourself a lot and you think about yourself a lot and you and yours and what you gotta get and all that, you're probably not being led by the Spirit of God. 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:17.200 Philip here was led by the Spirit, not to work on his own stuff and become something better. 00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:22.079 He's led here to talk to someone else, a complete stranger, about Jesus Christ. 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:22.720 Alright? 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:24.799 So what are we led by? 00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:32.160 Um second question I want you to ask yourself. 00:25:33.039 --> 00:25:35.119 Do you lead people to Jesus? 00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:37.759 Do you point people to Jesus? 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:40.799 Do you know how to point people to Jesus? 00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:44.880 Do you know where to start at pointing people to Jesus? 00:25:45.200 --> 00:25:51.839 Because the Spirit will lead us to point people to Jesus every time. 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:53.279 That's where it's gonna go. 00:25:53.440 --> 00:25:54.960 That's why I wrote the book. 00:25:55.279 --> 00:26:07.359 That's why as I read the New Testament, starting in Acts chapter 1 to 2, to go all the way up right here in 8, they're all just pointing people to Jesus. 00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:10.240 It all comes back to pointing people to Jesus. 00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:14.480 Philip knew that a changed life means to do what Jesus did. 00:26:14.640 --> 00:26:16.160 And what did Jesus do? 00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:21.759 Well, I told you when he ran into Zacchaeus, Jesus said, I came to seek and save what was lost. 00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:24.799 What did Jesus say in Matthew 28 as he left? 00:26:24.960 --> 00:26:27.680 Hey, go and make disciples. 00:26:28.000 --> 00:26:28.960 Teach them. 00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:31.519