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Unapologetic Swingers: Episode 12 - Losing our Bliss cruise virginity

• Unapologetic Swingers • Season 1 • Episode 12

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Jay and Elle are back to tell us about there sexy adventures aboard the most recent Bliss cruise.

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Elle:

Welcome back to unapologetic swingers. I'm l and I'm the

Tramp:

tramp and guys. We'd really like to welcome back my very sexy Co host guest co hosts here. J and l once again.

Jay:

Oh, thank you. I didn't know you thought I was sexy also

Tramp:

I just want to spread the love a little bit. It is the season. And guys just a quick recap of the podcast It is just a place where we can come together and talk about our adventures and sometimes our misadventures, as they may be, as we explore the lifestyle and sometimes various aspects of it that a lot of people don't even recognize as being part of the lifestyle. Beautifully put. Thank you. So this will 12 titled How we lost our bliss cruise virginity.

Jay:

Wow. You make it sound so serious.

Tramp:

Well, you guys just returned from the fall 2024 bliss cruise.

Jay:

Yes. November, November, 2024.

Elle:

Okay. And it was, it far exceeded our expectations. Let's put it that way.

Jay:

Hands down. Best vacation of my life.

Elle:

You're welcome.

Tramp:

And for the listeners, this isn't going to be yet another just review and how you compare it to some of the lifestyle, land based resorts, I guess you would say, but really focusing on, yeah, you'll get some pro tips that J and L picked up along the way and hopefully some sexy adventures if they're willing to talk about it. Just some of the great things that they came across, some things that probably blew their minds, and some things that maybe the cruise lines could have done a little better.

Elle:

Yeah, there wasn't too much of that, but I will say, just to start off friends of ours here in town, before, We went on the cruise had just come back from the spring one and pulled us aside and said okay Here's the things you need to bring which I really was so truly grateful for

Jay:

yes This would fall under the prep work portion of the show

Elle:

first of all get an Amazon account if you don't already have one and plug in cruise line items, and it does help you out there, but some of the things that they told us is to make sure that we have a magnetic dry erase board to put on our door. So we could either tell some people where we were going to be at if we weren't in our room, or for people to leave us notes.

Jay:

Right. Now, if you followed the news, Carnival has just announced no pineapples, stickers, or anything allowed on the doors. They don't want strangers identifying each other on a vanilla cruise. This cruise was 100 percent lifestyle. 6, 000 people. Everybody, not everybody, almost everybody really decorates their doors, whether it's pictures of themselves or showing what they're into or jokes or funny things. It's just starts the party atmosphere and you walk by someone's door, you grab the dry erase, you leave them a note or, Hey, saw you with the such and such bar, you know, let's get a drink. Unfortunately, our room.

Elle:

Was it at the butt end of the boat?

Jay:

Yes, it was almost all the way aft. Aft. Sorry, the ass end. Nobody was just walking by our door. You had to come all the way down to almost the very end of a dead end hallway, passageway, to get to our room.

Elle:

Yeah, for sure. But we did have a few people stop by, so that was kind of nice.

Jay:

First full day. I get out of the shower, it's noon, I think, we're like, something, a little after lunch. And I'm getting out of the shower, and I come into the room, and I go, Did somebody just knock on the door? I thought I heard something. And she goes, I'm not sure. And so she opens up the door, and There was

Elle:

a couple standing in the hallway making out, and I jokingly said, get a room. And they're like, well, we came to see yours.

Jay:

We had met them previously the day before, and they were coming by to leave us a note, and I'm literally standing here naked, I'm like, well, come on in. I'm like, oh no, oh no, we can't, we can't maybe, maybe later, I like, well, how much time you need? And they literally looked at each other and they went, how about one hour? And they did come back in an hour. Literally one hour and one minute, there was a knock at our door, and a couple we had, I did really not know. And we had a wonderful little play time for about an hour or so.

Tramp:

There's something about the spontaneity of things like that. I know I've enjoyed it in the past and it can be a lot of fun.

Elle:

Yeah. I personally feel a little freer with myself. I mean, Jay has said any number of times he really likes vacation L. Yes, we all do,

Jay:

actually.

Elle:

Cause it's, I'm a little less reserved, I'm a little more spontaneous. So, yeah, it definitely was a week worth of that. And

Jay:

I would say so many people have that vacation L attitude. It isn't the what goes on in Vegas stays in Vegas, but everybody is in such an upbeat, positive, positive attitude. Happy mood that when you meet some hey, how's it going? Great. How are you and they meet it? You know, it's it's really one of the best parts of the cruise Experience is the camaraderie and yeah happy joy joy feelings

Tramp:

Now this was six nights, correct six nights seven days. Okay. Yeah So it was the longer of the two annual bliss cruises, I guess.

Elle:

Yes. Yeah, I believe so. Okay This one went from Miami to the Dominican Republic to Haiti to Cozumel and back to Miami. So it was pretty full with some sea days on there too.

Jay:

Yeah. And we got in two days early. A lot of people do. There's a lot of partying, pool parties, meet and greets at the various hotels. So it really goes a long way to, you'll see people you recognize are from your own area.

Elle:

I think there were 60 plus people from Denver.

Jay:

Yeah. People you chat with online prior to, and then there they are and you meet them and you know, maybe there is advertised, maybe they're not, but you know, everybody's so excited to get on the boat that already that party vibe is starting. Yeah.

Tramp:

It's contagious when that happens. Yeah.

Elle:

Yeah.

Tramp:

You just, everyone's ready, ready just to go.

Elle:

Yeah, to just get going. And sometimes we have friends that have said that those first two days before the boat even leaves, they could lose their voice from talking so much and having such a good time just with the pre partying aspect of it all. Just getting ready.

Jay:

No, no, no, not at all. And then you get on the boat, the boat pulls out, everybody's, you know, there we go. Festival party atmosphere. When the, ship is cruising, everybody's up at the pool, hanging out or going ashore that comes later.

Elle:

Yeah.

Jay:

It's not a zoo, but that's the crowdest it was, was on that first day up on deck around all the pools. Yes, we were pulling out.

Elle:

Yeah. We were really concerned about is 6, 000 people on a boat. Will there be any sort of crowd anxiety going on? But other than sea days when tons of people were at the pool and it was like, spring break mazatlan or in the evenings on the promenade when everyone is in costume and walking around and looking at each other. But even then it never felt too much.

Jay:

No, and that's a great point. Real quick. The costumes, you have 6, 000 people on a lifestyle cruise. People who like to dress up different themes every night. You're going to have some amazing costumes. It's so fun. We have wonderful friends from Scottsdale and it was superhero night. They paid for the whole body painting. He's very large, muscular. She's this adorably hard bodied little fitness girl. They were Drax the Destroyer and Nebula from

Tramp:

Guardians Guardians of the Galaxy. Thank you. Guardians of the

Jay:

Galaxy. And they nailed it. Oh yeah. And people were wanting to take pictures with them just like you do at Vegas or New York City. Disney World or New York City. So, we loved it. We loved that carnival atmosphere.

Tramp:

All I can think of is knowing Lifestyle people and the costumes is they're probably still finding glitter on that cruise ship and they probably will for the next year. Oh,

Elle:

for sure. Perfect. The amount of glitter that was just floating around. Just obscene. Yes.

Jay:

And people the next day. Oh, look, your arm is still painted or still covered in silver glitter And you know, you can go with another couple you could go Predetermined to meet certain people that you've chatted with online. You could just be laissez faire and whoever we meet we meet you're at the bar and you turn and hi, and it could start off a lifelong friendship. We had an actual, a single gentleman, Mike, he was there with his platonic oldest female friend. She wanted to go and asked him to join. And so they actually, they shared the bed for sleeping. But during the day and evenings, she had the room from like noon to four. He had it from four to eight, so they had to coordinate. Did they have to leave a sock or a tie? They just texted, but I actually asked that and he was just such a great guy. L really took a shine to him and we had really one of the most erotic threesomes.

Elle:

Oh yeah.

Jay:

And I,

Elle:

I referred to it as Cirque de Soleil sex. I don't remember my body being able to contort into some of those positions ever before.

Tramp:

Oh, that could be

Jay:

the beginning of my back hurting. Mike is half Cuban and he's quite a dancer. Yeah. I mean Latin style. We've now determined Elle and I are gonna take lessons.

Elle:

Yeah.

Jay:

But there was a fitness girl, I think she was Colombian, just stunningly gorgeous, and I kept running into her. Like two times a day, I pass her in the hallway or in the elevator or whatever and I'm chatting her up a little bit and then Mike and I were coming from picking up something in his room. She got off the elevator and I called, Mike, get back here, get back here, this is a girl I want you to meet. And they start talking, they both start speaking Spanish so fast, there was no way I was going to catch up. And that night she showed up at the at the latin bar and he's out there just spinning her around like a pro And her husband's there filming it and you're just like it's a magical moment And then all these other girls line up and say is that your friend? Well, would you like to dance with him? Well, I I don't know how but I I could be I could follow And they he would take these girls out give them a dance and then back and they just It made their trip, you know, they were so happy to have that. He was having a ball too. Oh, he's he's such a great guy. He will stay a friend. We definitely Yeah,

Elle:

definitely We met so many great people. I mean going on the boat. We knew a bunch of people going but you know in our mind it's to meet new people and you get on chat groups and things like that and there's a number of people that you You Talk to and want to meet up with or whatever. There was a couple where we had met her This summer purgatory in Houston and she was there with a bunch of girlfriends. And so we started chatting and then we wound up hanging out with them any number of times. And our good friends from Dallas, Texas. But people told us you see somebody you like and you find that they're attractive, get their contact information. Cause you're never going to see them again.

Tramp:

Yeah. With 6, 000 people on board,

Elle:

but we did. We were so surprised that the people that we met that we wanted to see again that, we always seem to run into them at least once a day. So, that was pretty cool.

Jay:

And I need to give a shout out to our Dallas friends. Because Elle's back was really hurting her on that last day. She had to go lay down. And they invited Mike and I and Miss S. I hope you had a very good time. I heard she did. I think if anybody goes with an open mind and just no baggage, no drama, we're here to have fun, communicate with your partner to make sure there's no misunderstandings. Oh my God, you're going to have the best time ever. Why wouldn't you? You know,

Elle:

I mean, the goal wasn't to come away with some lifelong friends. But it happened. Yeah, there was a couple in Orlando that we met on the first night that we went to one of the pre parties we talked we got along and they were interesting and then To what two days into the cruise they invited us to have dinner with them We had dinner with them and then all of a sudden every night at 530. Hey, what are you guys doing for dinner? Well, we didn't want to ask you guys because we didn't want to overstay our welcome. We're like, well, we really want to spend more time with you and wound up having days. Yeah,

Jay:

absolutely. When we met them at the hotel later that night, I went, wow, they're the couple. I really hope we can get to know them. We didn't know it at the time. They were saying the exact same thing.

Elle:

Oh, yeah. After that first night, after dinner and, and. Other things. The next morning, I got up and I'm doing a search for, flights to Orlando and they told us, oh, well, we were already looking for flights to Denver. So, they're actually coming out in a few weeks to spend some time with us and she and I have plans to go to New Orleans, just her and I, watch out

Jay:

New Orleans.

Elle:

You

Tramp:

know, I think it's just a testament to. Just the incredibly authentic people that you can find in the lifestyle.

Elle:

Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. I don't, think there was a couple we met that we went, yeah, we didn't need to meet them. You know, there wasn't, there was just really good people. And, talking about, we weren't doing a comparison to other land based lifestyle But the difference between this and say one of the resorts is at the resorts, people are coming and going so you can meet a really great couple and they're like, well, we have to leave at 6 a. m. tomorrow morning because we have to go catch a flight, right? Or you can spend the whole week going. Wow, that's a lot of loud mouth drunks and not really connect with anybody. But on a ship this size, you have 6, 000 people. You meet somebody and it's not clicking. You turn around and meet somebody else. No harm, no foul. You just move on. And everybody just was so easy to get along with.

Jay:

And, it's, it's some of those chance encounters. that really make for special moments. If I may, just a quick story, Mike and I were running to, I think change cause we had to meet you and, and we get on the elevator as just two of us and then the door opens and an older woman, little on the heavy side, she, gets onto the elevator stands and then all of a sudden looks up at both of us. He's a pretty tall guy, and it's just like, oh my. Well, I'm a smart aleck, and I just go, well, we hire her out as a team. And she looks at me and goes, really? Like that. And we're just laughing. Bing! There's our floor. Hold the door for her. She gets off. She starts turning every turn that we're turning till we get to his room. She's going down the hallway, and I'm just like, give me one second. And I just run down the hall to her, and I'm like, sweetheart. She turns around. And I know no permission asked, but I just lean in, take her cheeks, give her this beautiful little soft kiss and went, you have a great day. And you just turn and walk away. You're just sharing the joy, you know, is how it works. That's how I like to think of

Elle:

it. You're good at that though. You love to share love and joy. Okay.

Tramp:

No, but I guarantee that you made her I'd like to think so.

Elle:

Oh, I know if somebody, you know, did that to me, a nice, tall, handsome gentleman, oh, thank

Jay:

you, babe.

Elle:

Followed me down the hallway. No. That's not. Hmm. But it just, you know, even just getting on the elevator, you don't know anybody on there. It's a crowded elevator and there are so many meet and greets. Like there's meet and greets for French people. There's meet and greets for, people just starting in the lifestyle. There's meet and greets for, whatever you could possibly think of. So we get in the elevator and I'm like, Oh, welcome to my elevator meet and greet, you know, that was her line.

Jay:

And that got a chuckle. My, my go to was. I just want to warn all of you. I'm not wearing underwear. That's true That was enough to usually get the get the banter started.

Elle:

Yeah,

Jay:

but you your joy moment was the very last night

Elle:

Yeah, I felt really good For most of the trip, but I have some back issues and about halfway through the trip. It really started playing havoc on my play time and by the last day You I was not comfortable. Let's put it that way. I was very uncomfortable, but we were at a bar that was playing the Latin music and we had all of our friends around us,

Jay:

all our new friends, all

Elle:

our new friends around us and found a seat at the bar and I could just sit there and watch, everybody dance or, you know, someone would come up to me and put their arms around me and just give me the kisses. Other people would unzip my dress. Yeah. Okay. Good. You're going to go there. I mean, they

Jay:

were making out boys, girls were all over you there. And of course her sexy dress had a zipper right in the front. So that kept going magically down to her navel and then boobs out getting played with by boys and girls. And you're just like sitting there, like just enjoying myself, the queen.

Elle:

And, and at the end of the night, they all walked me to my room, which was. It was a little challenging. It was very uncomfortable by then. But I felt love and they made sure I got home safe. I mean I'm surprised they didn't undress me and put me to bed. But, give me a little kiss on my nose. But they did take care of me. I felt loved. And yeah, that was probably one of my favorite moments. Just sort of encapsulated the true love and Joy that I found throughout the whole trip. There you go. Yeah, what was your high moment? Well,

Jay:

it was that same night, and the reason, some of you have probably figured out why wasn't Jay there to help Elle back into her room. There was an absolutely adorable couple, so classy, so cute. And they basically asked if I could be their third for an MFM. They had never experienced that. And Always

Elle:

accommodating.

Jay:

Yes. Yes. Thank you. Elle was very nice to say, you go play, go, go, go show them a good time. Thank you. I have the best wife ever. And it was, it was really sweet. We just, we had a great time and she was nervous and giggly, but I think I helped them have a really nice, memorable, it was their last night. It was everybody's last night. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Caution to the wind kind of thing, I guess.

Elle:

Yeah.

Tramp:

It's like that with normal takeovers as well as I've experienced where sometimes earlier in the week, things can be a little slow and then things really ramp up the last two nights. Typically.

Jay:

That makes perfect sense.

Elle:

Yeah. Yeah. Cause everyone's comfortable. And then you have that feeling of, Oh shoot, this is ending. Yeah. Low. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Tramp:

Now, one question I have is obviously that this is, was a mainline cruise line. It was, it was fully chartered of course. How did the onboard staff do, because as we know, as lifestyle folks, particularly in the evenings and the alcohol is flowing and as I understand it, the ships are not completely clothing optional. You can't walk through the corridors and elevators and etc.

Elle:

No, really just at the pool. Or I think we could walk around topless if it was part of the costume or something. But they, you know, you definitely couldn't, if you went to dinner and you had a skimpy outfit on, they would give you a towel to sit on. So we had friends and her superhero was a bikini and they asked her to wrap a towel around her and her option was, well, maybe I just don't need to eat tonight, but I, I would have been fine. If my skirt was a little short or something and you want me to sit on a towel, I'm okay with that. But as far as the staff goes. They were outstanding, these guys know what's coming, this is a bunch of lifestylers are gonna get crazy You're gonna see some stuff that you don't normally see on a cruise, but our steward could toot was Amazing and every day he's changing out the rooms and cleaning them up and making the beds and everything but Not our room but Like catering to whatever we needed, it's like, there wasn't an ice machine to go to, so we would really like two things of ice a day. And that was always there. And every time he would be in another room, and we'd walk by, he'd look up, and call us by name, and ask how we're doing, is there anything that we need. And we were just blown away by the, care. And that is what I heard from everybody.

Jay:

You

Elle:

know, so it didn't, he wasn't special, but he was special to us. So, yeah.

Jay:

That's a great way to say it. Yeah. Yeah.

Tramp:

I would venture to say that the staff, I'm sure the cruise line gives them an option saying, Oh, sure. This is what's coming. You know, you don't feel comfortable, opt out, opt out, but I'm pretty certain no knowing lifestyle folks and we take care of people I'm pretty sure there's some folks that say. That's my favorite week of the year.

Elle:

I could

Jay:

see that. And he's responsible for what? That, that corridor, 12, 12, 15, 16 rooms. And if everybody just throw this number out, if everybody tipped him a thousand dollars at the end of one week. He's making some good. He's doing all right for himself, you know, so, but they were all, I mean, the, even the dinner staff, even the, the buffet people, we didn't run into anybody that was difficult or not immediately attentive.

Elle:

No, and we weren't surprised, with having a drink, all you can drink drink package. I think we thought we would see a lot more. sloppy drunks than we did granted we probably called it a night a little earlier than some people but i was up till yeah oh that's right i was not

Jay:

a few times

Elle:

yeah did you see sloppy drunks out on your tours

Jay:

only two that we kind of know yeah i literally was at 2 30 and i'm walking through the mezzanine i look oh There's my friends walk over and they're trapped. That's true They were so trapped. So I sat there and talked until 3 a. m And i'm like guys, I've got to go to bed and you really should too Yeah, you're gonna be hating tomorrow So yeah, absolutely. We signed up as soon as we could for next year And I think this is our jam from now moving forward.

Elle:

I can see why people reserve for the next two years. We obviously didn't get it for this next year, but we're on the wait list. And then we're definitely going to sign up for 2026 because next this coming year 2025 is a smaller boat again, but 2026 it goes back to the symphony of the seas and it's 6, 000 people.

Jay:

It's a big boat. It looks down on every boat we were in port with. Oh yeah.

Elle:

So I mean, not, you know, not, Figuratively like it that they're lesser votes physically.

Jay:

Oh my God.

Tramp:

Sorry. Is there anything else that you guys wanted to

Jay:

know?

Elle:

Actually, I mean,

Jay:

I mean, you know some people over pack no matter where you go.

Elle:

Why are you looking at me?

Jay:

But, but you know, to where I took my tux. for and she had a ballgown for, for formal night, formal night. Thank you. And then you got your costumes, whether it's superhero stuff or back to school.

Elle:

Oh yeah. That was

Jay:

fun for us. God,

Elle:

that was fun. So back to school, he was a Truant young lad, and I was a counselor, school counselor, and then we had met some, some people from Australia and we're on the elevator with them and the other people are commenting and, discussed who Jay was and who I was. And then Jay looked at our friends from Australia and said,

Jay:

These are our foreign exchange students.

Elle:

It was awesome! Because they hadn't really dressed up.

Jay:

And we had a really fun little evening.

Elle:

Oh yeah, we had a fun night with them too.

Jay:

They were very energetic. It's so great to be with people in bed who are energetic. Who are fun. Who know what they want. They know how to use their words. They know What they like and just to have that kind of fun. The most we had was what three couples or four in

Elle:

one

Jay:

room. It was

Elle:

that three couple room,

Jay:

right? Yeah. There's supposed to be four,

Elle:

right? One couple didn't couldn't make it. So it was three, wait, one, two, three of us. Yeah. Three couples.

Jay:

And that may not be everybody's jam, but when, people click and there's sexual attraction and you just, you can sit across the room, take a break and watch

Elle:

all the things

Jay:

happening. And it is fun.

Elle:

Yeah, it is

Jay:

fun. Yeah. It's not like they're going to believe you if you told them back at work on Monday.

Tramp:

Well, fantastic guys. Thank you for, sharing all of that knowledge and experience.

Jay:

Thank you, buddy.

Tramp:

So guys, we do not have an AMA this week, the Tramp is going to do a little on the fly AMA for you guys.

Elle:

Hmm.

Tramp:

And, this'll be, easy. Yeah. Ask, ask me anything.

Jay:

Okay. No, no. Don't look so terrified. No, it's no,

Tramp:

nothing terrifying about it, Jay.

Jay:

You can ask anything, you know that. Yeah, oh,

Tramp:

I know. No, no, no. What was your favorite sexy experience on the Bliss Cruise? Each one of you guys individually.

Elle:

Okay, for me, I would say it was when we were with single guy Mike. Jay had met him the night before and really hit it off and told me about him and was bringing him to the room and I'm like, okay, and Jay went and took a shower and I was sitting on the bed and when Mike came in and we started talking and then next thing I know my legs on his leg and next thing I know I'm sitting in his lap and next thing I know we're making out. Yes, I walk out of the shower

Jay:

and go, Well, that certainly escalated quickly. I

Elle:

think he was in the shower for maybe two minutes. So, it really did. But he had such a warm and just enveloping energy about him. And we hit it off. And, and that was just such a free afternoon of play and fun and laughing. And, yeah, I really, enjoyed that time with the two of them. That's awesome.

Jay:

Yeah, that was a good time. Most definitely for me. As much as I want to say being their first MFM, I'm going to go back to our Dallas friends. They were just so fun. And Mike and I just they welcomed us in and we just had the best. It was it was a lot of fun.

Elle:

So

Jay:

That's my, that's my story. I'm sticking to it.

Elle:

All right. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was good. It was good. Sexy fun. That whole now,

Jay:

and some couples are different than us. I mean, this was an exception for us to play solo on occasion,

Elle:

right.

Jay:

You know actually you didn't, although you, you could have.

Elle:

I could have, no, I could have your

Jay:

new girlfriend. I give, okay, I'm out of the room for the next three hours. You two beautiful, sexy ladies have a great time. And of course, gentlemen, you know what that means. They sat on the bed and talked the whole time.

Elle:

Well, we'll make up for it when we go to Nola. But but you know, the, we've gotten to the point after five years of being in the lifestyle that. And we talk about a lot and things still come up sometimes that we go, Oh, well we never talked about that. And that may not be something we want to do. But I trusted him and he knows, pretty much as if it's somebody I know and feel comfortable with. And I didn't want my back to cause issues and it caused him to not have a good time. Now, if I had said, Jay, I want to go to bed and I want you there with me. That's one thing. But if I'm going to go to bed and take some muscle relaxers and be out, there's no reason he shouldn't go and have a good time. And so I was best

Jay:

wife.

Elle:

Yeah, I was really okay with it. And sometimes when that happens, you feel awkward and uncomfortable and I don't think you did because you found your people.

Jay:

Oh yeah. All these people, all of them, everybody out there in radio land. Yes. Such great people. Yeah. Even those we never got a chance to play with and

Elle:

people that wanted

Jay:

to, wanted to play with us and like, Oh my God, there you guys are. We were looking for you. Blah, blah, blah, blah. You're just like, we're right here. Here's our room number. Not much more I can do on that subject. So, well,

Tramp:

fantastic guys. Thank you so much for sharing. And for you listeners, if you have questions or comments, feel free just to reach out at unapologetic swingers at gmail. com. Feel free to visit our website. You'll find a link for the shivers on there. And wherever you're listening, just drop us a review that out of everything that's going to help us the most. Just get the word out and hopefully get a couple more listeners on the podcast. And I also do need some ask us anything questions guys, so please, please, I'm begging here.

Elle:

Are you tired of us already?

Tramp:

Not at all. Not at all. So guys, the next episode will be kind of a to be determined. Expect that here in a couple weeks and we're just going to keep on carrying on. We have some interesting potential topics here in the pipeline, so I'm very excited about that.

Elle:

Well, until next time, I'm Elle. And I'm the Tramp. Be sexy. Be confident. Be unapologetic.