
Unapologetic Swingers
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Unapologetic Swingers
Unapologetic Swingers: Episode 15 - The Joys of Organic Play
The Tramp and Elle are back to talk about our own unique takes on organic play and how incredible it can be when everything comes together. This one is fun!
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Welcome back to unapologetic swingers. I'm Elle.
Tramp:And I'm the Tramp. And guys, we are so thankful that you're back with us for another episode. And my cohost Elle here, who has definitely become a cornerstone of the new podcast
Elle:I'm really enjoying this. It is very fun. Yeah. Once you get past that weird awkwardness, which tends to linger with me sometimes,
Tramp:I think it lingers for all of us at some point or another.
Elle:Thank God.
Tramp:The whole point of this podcast is really to, express our, victories and defeats in the lifestyle through our various, very unique experiences. And it's not always good, but it's not always bad either. And throughout the journey, we just really learn a lot about ourselves.
Elle:Oh, for sure. And, it feeds over into our vanilla life too. So I find that I'm a better person, more understanding, more accepting after being in the lifestyle for a while.
Tramp:Right. And I have to say, I think probably my lifestyle friends are some of my absolute best friends in this world. 100%. Well, guys, this is going to be episode number 15 and it is the joys of organic play.
Elle:That's not orgasmic play. It's organic.
Tramp:Yes. And what we're referring to here are instances where maybe you were at a house party or the club and Maybe you just find yourself in that perfect situation, you weren't even prepared to play or find yourself in that scenario, but all of a sudden, the stars align and Everything just feels right it's just this organic flow that you get into and sometimes those experiences are quite honestly some of the most memorable and the best.
Elle:Agreed, agreed.
Tramp:So Elle's gonna start off first with her unapologetic story and then I'll jump in with mine.
Elle:Okay, so Jay and I had these people that we had met at the ranch, and we'd gotten to know them, super sexy, she's just, she's so beautiful, he's very handsome, but we couldn't quite get a feel for them, and at one point, I think, we had sent them something on Cassidy, they looked at our profile, and they came back with, oh, our place styles are just too different, and, We might have a few racy pictures on there, so we kind of went, hmm, okay, well, whatever. And it wasn't until months later when we were really talking with them one night, and they said, oh, no, no, we only play with each other. They have kids at home, and the first thing they do, When they get to the ranch, they go downstairs and they play because they don't get that time. And then come up and they love being around the sexy people and the fun things and they really liked us. We're like, oh, okay. So later on, Jay and I were going downstairs and this couple was in one of the first cabanas with the door open and she's riding him and it's super sexy and she calls us over. And we looked at each other like, huh? And, Jay came over and put his hand on her back. He's like, what can we, what can we do for you? How can we help? And she's like, Oh no, no, no, we're not. We don't want to play with you, but could you guys do something? So that is
Tramp:such an open,
Elle:right? What, what else is a girl to do? I got on my knees and I took Jay's cock in my mouth and started sucking on him, which within, Oh, 30 seconds. She was coming so hard and so strong, and we basically, I stood up, and we looked at them and said, Enjoy, and we bowed out gracefully, but it was so fun, and it is very memorable to us, because we weren't part of the play, but we were. And we were the sexy turn on that put her over the edge kind of a thing. And, and we were super happy to do that.
Tramp:Right. So it sounds like she is extremely visual, most likely. There you go. And so you guys were a fantastic accessory.
Elle:I like being an accessory. I can do that.
Tramp:And in their style of play where they almost sounded like they were parallel play only or, or. More exhibitionist almost.
Elle:I think so. Or in just wanted to see somebody else doing something sexy.
Tramp:And that was her thing. Yeah.
Elle:We were so happy. We were so happy to be that for them.
Tramp:Well that's awesome. So mine also happened at the ranch. And this would have been at this point several years ago. And my partner and I were. It was a normal Saturday evening at the ranch and, and just like most clubs, the Friday and Saturday evening crowd is going to be a lot more out of towners or people that come for the first time. It is true. It's because it's particularly with Saturday. It's the most popular night, definitely the busiest, and you do
Elle:have somebody, if they're coming in from out of town, they are DTF. Yes,
Tramp:they And so DTF would be
Elle:down to fuck.
Tramp:Yes. Okay.
Elle:Thank you for explaining the definition.
Tramp:And as the evening wore on a lot of people migrate downstairs, whether they're watchers or trying to secure a corner or, or whatnot. And so she and I had gone downstairs just to check it out. And. As El had mentioned there, there's basically a row of rooms or kind of cabanas that have either sheer curtains doubled up with solid curtains. So, traditionally you can leave them wide open. You can close just the sheer curtains or close the solid curtains all the way if you want a little bit more privacy. And there was this really sexy couple in one of the rooms. And we were just kind of sitting back and admiring them as they just played with each other. And then the female, I remember she's a sexy little blonde, kind of threw the Shears motion right to us. Okay, they
Elle:can't see you move your hand like that just so you know. He's making a come in here motion with his hand. Thank you, Al.
Tramp:You mean they can't No, no,
Elle:this is not a YouTube video.
Tramp:And we look at each other. It's like, surely they aren't motioning to us. It must be. So we look all around because there's a number of people down there. And then her hand actually comes through the shears and motions us again. So we're like, well, why don't we go at least stick our heads in? We, you know, we don't have to. We don't dedicate ourselves to anything or promise ourselves and we go in and they're just like, we saw you guys earlier and found you guys super attractive and we'd love to play with you guys. And it was at that point in the evening we'd had, some good drinks and just really feeling that sexy vibe.
Elle:Sexy vibe is the best.
Tramp:We, quickly explained, we're a soft swap only couple at this point. And they're like, no problem. We just want to touch and play with you. And it was, it was like, okay, let's go. We already knew the boundaries and we could look at each other and just say, yes, let's, let's do it. And we had just a phenomenal play session and. It was just super sexy and, and the girls had a chance to play a little bit and it was really sexy to watch them and, and then, we broke off with the other partners and it was, a fantastic time. It truly was. And that's really, through this episode, what we're talking about when it's not a planned date where.
Elle:You go with the expectation you're going to connect with some couple and
Tramp:right and there's not a huge amount of communication in advance, right? Other than you and your partner are already on the same page,
Elle:right? Right? And then there's sort of that mental connection of you're both turned on. You both are seeing what's happening and you've both been invited in and no one's going you or that it. No, this doesn't seem like this is something that we want. They were very kind to say, we looked at you earlier, thought you were sexy and that makes you feel good. It does. Right? Who doesn't want to feel wanted? Yeah. And so when someone acknowledges it, it's even better. So yeah, I think that's great.
Tramp:Aren't compliments the
Elle:best? I love them. I do like them very much. I have one other story now that you mentioned it at the ranch and. It was the summer and actually it was my birthday. We celebrated on Sunday Funday and we got one of the outdoor cabanas and some wonderful friends decorated it up for me and we were having a great time. That's awesome. Yeah, it was, it was really, really nice. I think the owner mentioned that it was the best decorated. He'd ever seen, but he might tell that to everybody, you know, anyway, I felt good and at one point I had gone downstairs. I was looking for Jay and Just kind of checking it out See what was happening and came across two very good friends on the fourth square out in the open And they were playing and having sex and when I walked up immediately she said oh It's Elle's birthday You need to fuck her. And I'm like, okay. Because I've played with it before and it was a good comfort level and I knew that Jay would be fine with it. And he looked at his wife and said, we don't have the bag. And she's like, I'll get it. You guys get started.
Tramp:Ah, the infamous playback.
Elle:We should always have that. Even if you're not planning on playing, you should always have it near, even if it's in the car. Because you don't know when the organic things will happen. So, we were playing and having fun, then she came back and she joined in, and a little while later, Jay came up and he had been playing with a lesbian friend who had mentioned that occasionally She likes a dick and he was happy to oblige and let her have that. I thought it was great, but she was definitely super excited to give me a little birthday boost and the whole thing just was not expected. It was not planned and those are some of my favorite, favorite times. Again, we've talked about it. Sexpectations don't have them go into something. And every time we go out wherever it is, let's just have fun. But if you've got that communication ahead of time and you can make those switches and those changes when it's warranted, it's, and again, people can't see my hand motion that I'm doing, but it's delightful.
Tramp:It is. And like I said, sometimes those are the most memorable just experiences that you can have.
Elle:Agreed.
Tramp:And actually I have one more. I, I thought of two.
Elle (2):Good. Good.
Tramp:Good. And this would have happened. This was also a couple of years ago, but at this point we were a full swap
couple.
Tramp:And we were invited to a really beautiful house and it was a summertime pool party and it was, very private and everything. And I don't think it was designed to necessarily be a play party, just more of a, of a sexy
Elle:get together, get,
Tramp:get together
Elle:fun parties too. But
Tramp:As the day, war on and of course, summertime pools, the drinks are going to flow.
Elle:Clothes come off.
Tramp:And yeah. Clothes start to come off. Yes. Yes. And the sun is setting and there's just this tension in the air. And I forget what just tripped it off, but there were, honestly, there were probably in total five couples.
Elle:Wow.
Tramp:And.
Elle:So it's an orgy,
Tramp:I do believe that qualifies as an orgy and I'll probably, we should cover this in another episode.
Elle:What is the definition of what constitutes,
Tramp:But it was just one of those things and before I know it, she's involved with one of the gentlemen and I'm involved with one of the other ladies. And again, We were just on the same page, so it wasn't a problem, but the way everything just flowed all of a sudden, and everyone was in, and everyone was sexy, and I think that is, probably for those situations. Being, at least attracted at some level to everyone is really important because you don't want to
Elle:forget. There's those people who you initially are not attracted to, but their personalities shine through and they become sexier. I find funny men very sexy. You know, you never know. Anyway, not to discount what you were saying, of course,
Tramp:of course, but all I'm getting at is. Is when, you find yourself and you just truly go with the flow, as long as you and your partner are both comfortable, of course, it is just so erotic and so much fun and yeah, and yeah, I'll, cover that in much greater detail, but I just, through, your talk and with your last story, I, I thought. I just remembered that. I have another I can throw in there. I'm sure
Elle:we have more, but
Tramp:no, those, those, those great. Those were some very sexy stories. Guys, I'm going to pause real quick and tell you about one of our sponsors, which is shivers shivers is an edible CBD derived sensation enhancer. And there are two specialized formulas, one for men and one for women. And let me tell you, these things are amazing. I find that they kick in after 30 to 60 minutes. And not only do I get a nice energy boost, but every touch is magnified. It truly does send those wonderful shivers right down your spine. But for me, it doesn't end there. Not only is my pleasure increased, but the next day I wake up feeling just phenomenal, not all groggy, not hung over like I've drank too much. And in a lot of instances, this will probably replace alcohol at lifestyle events. I just feel good. I'm relaxed. I'm social. And just everything is better, especially when I get a chance to play. I would love for you guys to try them out, and I've arranged a special discount at shivers. store on any of their products. Just use the coupon code US for Unapologetic Swingers at checkout for 10 percent off your order. A link can also be found on our website at www. unapologeticswingers. com. Just be sure to tell us what you think. It's pretty obvious we think they're awesome. So Elle. Yes. Let's just do it. Briefly touch on, I think we've already done it, but kind of the unapologetic honesty segment kind of wrap up your thoughts with the organic play type situations.
Elle:So I think that it's important to be open to them and not everything going organically is going to be how everybody lines up. So. I don't, I don't want ever anybody to think that they have to just go with the flow every time. Again, it's your judgment. It's how you're feeling that night. It's the connection you have with your partner and, but to be open to maybe meeting somebody new or someone you knew before that you hadn't quite looked at that way and how is that feeling going and what is the vibe and sometimes being okay with just rolling with it.
Tramp:I often liken it to kind of flying by the seat of your pants. Yes,
Elle:sure. Or no pants.
Tramp:Or no pants as the case may be. But realistically, you and your partner have to be on the same page beforehand. Correct. It can't be Yeah,
Elle:one can't be One can't be in and
Tramp:then you're just trying to coattails necessarily. Yeah, I know.
Elle:Or one can't go, if they feel like they're going along with it, then it's not right. And you need to know and that person needs to speak up and say, Hey, I know you're leaning in this direction. I'm not feeling it tonight. And in our case, it would be doesn't matter why it could be that night. It could be that person. It could be something that happened earlier. It doesn't matter if one of you says. No, I don't. I don't think so. Or gives you a look like, what are you doing?
Tramp:Yeah. Then it should be a full stop or at least pause and say, Hey, we need to talk about it. Right. There you go. And that's perfectly fine. Yeah.
Elle:Go off to the corner and have a discussion. No drama. Yeah. No one wants drama. And you don't either, you know, so have those conversations if there's not the right balance for one of you.
Tramp:Yep. I agree there, but that's pretty much my summation as well.
Elle:Oh, sure. Just copy me. Of
Tramp:course.
Elle:Okay.
Tramp:Well, we're also going to move on to our Ask Us Anything segment, which unfortunately we have not received any questions via email.
Elle (2):What? What? What?
Elle:I know you all have questions. I know you do. You ask me them in person. Throw us a bone.
Yes.
Elle:Er. Sorry. I'm just full of it tonight.
Tramp:So I dug into the depths of the internet this evening and dabbled into Reddit, the swingers subreddit and here was an interesting question that, caught my eye. And this is just more of a question is sexual discoveries that you've made through play, basically things that you may not have considered before, but they happened and afterwards you were like, holy shit, that was awesome. And how, have I been missing this for that long?
Elle:You're going to go first.
Tramp:I will go first. So one of my discoveries is I found that. My nipples are an incredible erogenous zone for me. And you have some people that are, kissers or nibblers or biters or pinchers or all that stuff. And, personally, I just found that it takes me a while to get warmed up. So it's, it's kind of a light touch and then, you know, you can go pretty hard on them, but that is just an incredible turn on for me personally.
Elle:Right.
Tramp:Do
Elle:you feel it like shoot down to your groin or is it just sort of an all over body feel? Cause I know a lot, a lot of women and I'm just raising my hand and I only have one that's still very sensitive, but I, it. It, it shoots down. Yes. And I, and it connects everything.
Tramp:Yes. I would say the same for me.
Elle:Okay. Good to know.
Tramp:I actually have a second one.
Elle:Oh yeah.
Tramp:I'm a big guy. So I'm tall.
Elle:You're tall and lean. You're not big, but you are very tall. Well, I'm, well, thank you. But
Tramp:I've been told I'm imposing.
Elle:Okay. Okay.
Tramp:You don't agree? I don't see it,
Elle:but I also know you very well. I mean, it's taken us a while to get to this point where we're so close. But I know Jay has been told he's imposing too. Right. Because you guys are about the same height. And it's just, it's probably more of a height thing. A height and build thing. Yeah.
Tramp:But what I've found, honestly, is since that is my default mode, I get really turned on when a woman just kind of takes charge a little bit.
Elle:Oh, sure. The assertiveness.
Tramp:Yeah, that assertiveness is really sexy and attractive to me. Almost as attractive as, confidence. I think a confidence on a woman is incredibly sexy that they know themselves well enough and are confident in their abilities that they're not holding it back. I personally just find that incredibly sexy.
Elle:I do too. Just so you know, in a woman, yeah I think anyone who can walk around and carry themselves and emit light. And love is super sexy, you know,
Tramp:slightly off topic, but have you ever come across someone that almost exude sexual energy? Yes. And it's just like you can almost feel it coming off of them. Right.
Elle:It's just dripping off of them. It's just
Tramp:almost dripping off of them. And almost you say, I better not get too close because I will just be pulled right into that. And I won't be able to say no.
Elle:We have wonderful friends that we met early on. And she is now stationed in an embassy across the seas. And. That woman, you can see in the pictures, she's dripping sexuality. And, for me, I have to be attracted to a woman, I have to have a connection. You know, I am not one of those women who can walk in a place and go, Okay, where is the pussy? That's, not me, and that's other people, and I have no problem with that. I will be their winged woman anytime. But for me, with her, Ooh, she's just my soul. Like we connected really, really well and it's hot and she's gorgeous and she's smart and she's a baking fool and, and it's just, it's really fun to watch her. Yeah.
Tramp:I know exactly what you're talking about.
Elle:Yeah. Women who just got it.
Tramp:Yep. Yeah, exactly. And I'm sure there are men that just got it as well,
Elle:right? Those that are comfortable with themselves, that, will touch you before things, and not be intrusive and you feel that you're a better person, just because they're around and they're sending that energy. I'm a big energy person and you get someone who you can connect with like that and it's, really fun.
Tramp:Yes. Yeah, I agree. I've, I've been lucky enough to, come into orbits of those type of people several times and it's always, it's always a fun time.
Elle:Yeah. You leave just with kind of a smile on your face. Yep. That was good.
Tramp:And usually just exhausted if it's done right. Yes. If it's done
Elle:well for me I think one of the biggest surprises As we've been going through this journey, and as Jay and I dated, and he opened me up to something, and for me And again, I out myself, but it's anal sex. And most people, you either love it or you don't. And I know there's a struggle and there's a trick to it. And we definitely utilize the cheat of the poppers, the amyl nitrate, which has been very prominent in the gay community for probably decades. And just a little inhalation of it opens up the soft tissue. And it'll open up the soft tissue in your mouth, if there's a very large penis coming your way. It opens up your pussy, again, for the same reason. And it opens up the anus for a more smoother entry. Okay. And once it's inside you, you really don't realize how many sensations are going on because part of it is pushing on your uterus and your vulva. And therefore into your clitoris, and you get more sensation. So, I definitely still utilize my little click sucker, my WeMelt for that sensation. But, after a couple of the popper inhalations, Jay has no problem sliding in. And I have to be honest, there have been occasion where as he is just entering me I come explosively and so I think that was a big surprise for me just to realize that, oh my gosh, this is really, truly an erogenous zone if done properly. If warmed up, if loosened up, if somebody is kind and gentle and listens to your words and that was probably one of the biggest surprises for me. Right.
Tramp:So you would say you're a fan.
Elle:I am a fan. Yes. Yes. Not with everybody, just so you know, but it's, definitely something that if I'm feeling comfortable with somebody and we've got a good connection that it might possibly be an option.
Tramp:Sure. But it's something that you did not ever, ever think is like, that was just a no go zone. Exactly. And through your own unique experiences and lifestyle, you're like, well, you know, in the right circumstances, it is a lot of fun.
Elle:Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
Tramp:Thank you for sharing.
Elle:You're welcome.
Tramp:Well, everyone, thank you so much for just continuing to come on this journey with us and we couldn't do it without you guys. It's, fun looking at the, back end stuff and seeing that it's not only just. local people or people even from the United States that listen, you know, listeners from the metric show, listeners from really all around the world, which is so cool. I know it is really cool. I'm not going to say any, Little tiny islands anywhere where that always seemed to pop up, but it's, some very obscure places. So thank you. We know you're listening guys. So please send us an email. Even if it's just to say hi, we would love it.
Elle:Yeah. Say hi. We listened to you. My gosh, that would totally make our day.
Tramp:And if you have a question, even better that you're willing for us to read and respond to, but we can be reached at unapologetic swingers at gmail. com. All of our information can also be found on the website, which is also unapologetic swingers. com. And the next episode is kind of to be determined.
Elle:Yeah, we have a couple of different options. We just need to connect with some people because we've got some really wonderful, interesting guests that we want to add to our podcast list. And we're really excited to have everybody on.
Tramp:Yes, that's going to be, I've seen the list that producer Jay has put together and he's
Elle:definitely taken his role
Tramp:and yeah, they're, they're going to be some phenomenal ones in there. And also guys, wherever you happen to be listening to us\ the number one thing that you can do to help is just leave us a quick review. Hopefully all the nice things. If you have a gripe, please email it to us. Yeah, please email it to us. But guys again, thank you so much from the bottom of my heart and mine and else but This is this truly is a labor of love, but it's so much fun
Elle:Yeah, we really are enjoying being a part of it too.
Tramp:Thank you so much. Thank
Elle:you. Until next time, I'm Elle. And
Tramp:I'm the Tramp.
Elle:Be sexy.
Tramp:Be confident.
Elle:Be unapologetic.