Unapologetic Swingers

Unapologetic Swingers: EP 29 - From Sweethearts to Swingers

• Unapologetic Swingers • Season 1 • Episode 29

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Today we are joined by Styles and Chloe -  A younger couple some fantastic and entertaining adventures for us as they explore and evolve in the lifestyle.

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Elle:

Welcome back to Unapologetic Swingers. I'm El

Tramp:

and I'm the Tramp, and just as I say, seemingly every single episode, just, but we, we do, we truly do. Welcome and from the bottom of our hearts, just a thank you for continuing to come along on this wonderful journey with us and we talk about the lifestyle and sometimes our own situations and. Oftentimes, just like today, we have guests in that we're very appreciative of. Mm-hmm. And it's really just our own adventures and lifestyle. The highs and lows and everything in between.

Elle:

That's right. The good, the bad, and the ugly.

Tramp:

Indeed. So we're gonna launch right into today. We would like to welcome Styles and Chloe to the podcast. Welcome guys. Welcome. Thank you.

Chloe:

Thank you for having us.

Tramp:

What I really want to get right into is the unapologetic story this week, and tell us about how you guys came into this world.

Styles:

We definitely have a interesting story. I think maybe a little bit different when it comes to going into the lifestyle. We had some outside influence that might be a little different than most people do. And so I'll kind of let Chloe kind of talk about that and then I'll chime in when,'cause she always tells stories better just because. She had a different perspective of it all.

Okay.

Chloe:

I will say that I was always bi-curious with girls and so I think that's what our first thing was. And I had a first experience with a girl with well being in the lifestyle and I was like, oh wow. I really do like girls and they really do turn me on. Hmm, where can we get a little bit more of this?

Styles:

Yeah. And at the time we were living in Omaha, so we weren't living in here.

Tramp:

I would imagine that the lifestyle scene in Omaha is not exactly booming.

Styles:

Actually

Elle:

go, whoops.

Styles:

Crazy enough. The first time we ever went to temptation, there was a whole gang of people from Omaha. There was like 35 people that all came out from Omaha. Like, so apparently they do have some kind of scene.

Yeah. Never assume underground.

Styles:

Yeah. That shocked us as well. So, yeah, we were in Omaha at the time, so we were like, okay, how can we do this? And it was just some of our close friends that Chloe had our experience with. We thought it'd be a good idea to kind of see if we could explore more. So we ended up moving to New York after that. And again, never really thought about looking into a lifestyle scene or never even really knew what the lifestyle was at that time. That was a short stint. We lived there for a year and then we were on our way back to Colorado where we live now. And I was in the car with my dad, so this is kind of where my dad comes in the story and we're talking about it. And, I'm very open and honest. My dad, Chloe's parents are very more reserved. So she doesn't always have the best time to be able to communicate with them. She also uses my dad as a resource. So we were talking in the car and he's, he's telling me about this magical place in in Denver. And he's explained to me that, you guys could really live out your lifestyle if you guys wanna try that, or you can maybe, find a girl if you wanna try that. And so we're like, okay, we'll give it a try. Ends up being the ranch, right? Mm-hmm. So we go there one time in the summer. This is about four years ago now. Yeah. And we really enjoyed ourselves. We ended up starting to go maybe once a month and then, my dad would text me and be like, Hey, are you guys going to the ranch tonight? So we would kind of trade off days Yeah. When we were gonna go there.

Elle:

I understand that. Well, I have, a couple of questions here. Absolutely. First of all as we were talking before the show you guys brought up the fact that you're high school sweethearts. Yes. And so you really had just only been with each other. I would say for the most part right

Styles:

abs Yeah. We've been, together since we were 15.

Elle:

Yes. Wow. Okay. And then my other question is when you were in the car talking with your dad, did you bring up the lifestyle first and then he's talked about it? Or did he just sort of throw that out there? I think

Chloe:

I've like mentioned I'm into girls and just wanting to broaden our horizon. Okay. Yeah. And I think that's how it got brought up.

Styles:

It was an opening. Yeah. Yes. Uhhuh, like I, I said, like I said, Chloe's always been really good at communicating with my father, and they're hilarious when they talk.

Elle:

Okay.

Styles:

That's how I just kind of got brought up. My dad just said, Hey, did you guys go explore this place? He'd known that we've been together since we were really young and mm-hmm. And, we've always been separated, so it's always been like me and her alone. And then we had kids really young, so. It was kind of our time to do something different. Right. We're coming home, this is where the grandparents live. So we had opportunity to go out and have fun with the two of us and see what we like. So yes. That is awesome. That's

nice.'cause then you had that supportive, Hey, we're gonna go out. Can you watch the kids? Yes. And they know you don't have to put the big coat on to get out the house. Exactly.

Styles:

And we did have the experience where we both were at the club at the same time. It was his birthday the very first year,

Chloe:

but we kind of. Try, like we, we

Styles:

did kind of try crashing his time.

Chloe:

Oh,

that

Chloe:

was on purpose, right? Yes, it was. He kept telling us like, do not show up. Do not show up. And we're like, okay, we won, and then

Styles:

you can only tell me not to do something

Tramp:

so many times before I do it. So, well, you're gonna wanna do

Chloe:

it. Yeah.

Tramp:

I think that's pretty natural as a father myself, you tell your children don't do this. Oh, they're gonna do it. Exactly. Yeah,

Elle:

yeah, yeah. Well, now that you've put that thought in my head

Tramp:

exactly.

Chloe:

We waited till like the night was over and then we just like showed up and he was just like. I knew you guys were gonna come. We're like, yep. Luckily,

Styles:

my, my parents were separated, so it was my stepmom, so it wasn't as bad as like going there and see my mom there. So, yeah. That I think that's worse than seeing my father.

Elle:

So you guys got in the lifestyle, but you had moved here and started going to the ranch about four years ago. What other things have you guys done? Have you done some traveling? Have you gone to other clubs?

Chloe:

We've gone to Temptations twice and Desire. Mm-hmm. And we did do one in Vegas too. The,

Styles:

yeah, we went to one of the lifestyle clubs in Vegas when we were out there. One try. We always. Heard that Vegas was a fun lifestyle place and we were trying to see how we could, you know, wiggle our time there. So yeah,

Tramp:

there's a lot of options in Vegas. I'm personally a huge fan of Vegas, whether it's, one of the assorted topless pools or topless optional pools, if you will. Mm-hmm. There are a, a myriad of clubs out there. Some, some not so good, at least reputation wise. I think it's a hotspot as far as the lifestyle is concerned, just because not only do they have a very strong local community, if you will. Mm-hmm. But the people traveling through.

Elle:

Right. When we've gone, we have yet to go to one of the clubs there. We keep meaning to, but sometimes it's it. We're traveling from somewhere else back to Colorado and like on a Tuesday and a Wednesday and a Thursday. And then there was one time we're like, okay, let's go and we'll stay through Friday nights. So we at least get one of those. But hearing that they open so late, we're like, I don't know, it doesn't sound good. And then we wound up having a single man over and it was. Amazing. And we didn't miss out on anything. We've had fun. Every time we've gone, it's just we haven't gone to the clubs.

Styles:

Yeah. We've had a great time at like the topless pool parties, like you were saying. Mm-hmm. Almost every time we go out there, if it's in the summer, we stop at there one time. Our experience at the club out there wasn't great. Okay. So I think we're spoiled here having the ranch. Agreed. It's, it's a beautiful club, right. And our expectations were only that, yeah. So when we went to this other club in Las Vegas, it was just very different. At the time they were having a nacho buffet. So it was also a little weird to me. Like I always like to see that sexy side of it, and I think the ranch does a good job with that.

Elle:

Mm-hmm.

Styles:

So when people were like at a buffet in nachos, it was kind of not as sexy to me, although

Elle:

I've heard if you're really hungry, it's kind of nice to have that buffet or that breakfast buffet that some of them do. Yeah.

Tramp:

But I don't know if I'd want to throw down a big plate of garlic and onions right

Elle:

before you're about to get jalapenos. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. Forget the jalapenos. No, say no, just say no.

Tramp:

Not if you're a fan of. F going down. Oh yeah, yeah. Get a little spicy, so to

speak.

Tramp:

Literally and physically.

Elle:

So four years. I mean, I've only been in for what, five and a half, you know? What kind of fun stories do you have? Tell us the good and a bad. You can go first.

Styles:

Okay. Yeah. So I would say we've had both, definitely had both good and bad. Surprisingly enough, our first time. Ever having experience at the ranch was actually really good. Yeah, surprisingly we had talked so much and I hear it all the time on in your guys' podcast, that communication's key, but. When you're in the moment, sometimes things just happen. Right, right. Very true. We, never went in with intentions of having a full swap.

Chloe:

Yeah. We've always talked about like the soft swap, in this moment. It just happened so naturally that we ended up full swapping and it was actually amazing. Like there was no bad things that happened. So, good flow. Yes. It

Tramp:

was amazing flow and sometimes you never know what the reaction is going to be, good or bad. Exactly. With a new experience. Oh, yeah.

Chloe:

No. And so I think I just went in there open-minded and yeah, it just turned out really fun.

Styles:

Yeah. And that's one of the things that, we're trying to get better on every time is this communication thing, right? Mm-hmm. We're, we're learning. And the more we experience, I think the more we can talk about it, right? Because it's difficult when, sometimes you get the green light and then, you know, the next day that's a red light, and you're kind of shocked by it in the morning, right? Mm-hmm. And Chloe is a little bit more abrasive to that nature of, of kind of like going in her head the next day about it. Whereas I'm more just like, all right, that was fun. Like. New day, right?

Yeah. I know what go into my head sometimes, and I've talked with other people. Yeah. What kind of things do you think about the next day? Is it a guilt? Is it a wow that was further than I wanted to go?

Chloe:

I feel like sometimes it can be further than what I wanted to go and even though I give him the green light, but the next day I feel like, oh, well maybe that wasn't okay.

Elle:

Are you talking about okay for to see him doing something? Or something that you did?

Chloe:

More so styles. Yeah. Even though I'm looking at him and I'm like, oh, it's good, we're good. And then the next day I'm just like, oh, I regret giving you the green light. But yes. So I really need to work on actually being in the moment and the next day I need to realize that like it was okay. To give you the green light and I don't need to be mad or anything about it.

Elle:

I think that's something that, a lot of us have experienced. I know Jay and I have had some conversations. He's like, well, you said it was fine that we did this and, and now you're not okay. I am like, yeah, okay. Well, and here's the reasons why, or I'm not sure why I'm not okay. I wanna think about that for a while, and again, ha, I love it. It comes back to the communication. At least it gives us an opportunity to talk about it. And then the next time Jay will be like, okay, now you're saying this. Are you sure that you feel okay about this? Yeah. Because I don't want to ever step over those bounds.

Tramp:

Right. I think it's natural that you never want to disappoint your partner.

Elle:

Right.

Tramp:

And you find out after the fact, even though you were given the green light per se. It's not only communication. The other part I, I truly believe of the lifestyle is the grace and recovery afterwards. It's never going to be, sometimes it is perfect. Sometimes it's very imperfect and how you recover from that as a couple, it's not just the communication, it's taking your own accountability to say, you know what? I did give you the green light. I have to sit in my. Internal unrest with it. But you guys are a team. Yeah. Mm-hmm. That's the biggest thing where, you know, at the end of the night, it's gonna be you guys. Yeah. And only you guys.

Styles:

Yeah. And I think that's something that Chloe actually really enjoys. And I usually, that's how I can calm her down, I just start going after Chloe and. Showing her that, you know, she's always my number one and Well,

Elle:

that reconnection

Styles:

ab absolutely. That

Elle:

that doesn't matter. That was fun. We did that. It's okay, but you and I, that's what counts. Yeah.

Styles:

Yeah. And I think it's the thing, you know, a lot of people think, oh, if you've been married forever, it's easier. And I don't think it is. No. I mean, we've been married now for 13 years and again, us being high school sweethearts, we've only had each other. And so it's almost harder'cause you're trying to break up, what you think you've had together for so long and just kind of introduce new people in that, but know that you're still as solid as you've always been, right? Yeah. If not more solid, to be honest.

Elle:

Yeah. Yeah. I said it earlier, but I truly appreciate the fact, I have several friends that have been together since high school and we're talking that's 40 years ago, so that's a long time. And I always kind of look at it. And they seem solid. You know? Mm-hmm. And sometimes people are, sometimes people aren't, but it's you did actually miss out on the sewing oats part of your early twenties or even early thirties. Allowing each other to experience that gives you that opportunity to go, yep. Made the right choice. I'm good here. This is wonderful. I'm happy we get to have this extra fun.

Tramp:

Not to tangent too far off, but style, something that you mentioned just a moment ago was the foundation that you guys have built as a couple, that strength is paramount here and its communication and its understanding and its grace we've all seen those couples that come into the lifestyle jumping into the deep end of the pool. But what they're attempting to do is fix something that's a foundational flaw. Right. Within their relationship. Exactly. And they tend to burn out very quickly and there's a lot of drama involved in everything else. I know I've seen it a number of times. Mm-hmm. L I'm sure do that. I totally have

Elle:

seen it. And, as you get more into the lifestyle, you can spot that sooner.

Styles:

Exactly right. And Chloe, correct me if I'm wrong, but we've always had great sex.'cause that was never an issue. Like for us it was just more so, Hey, you know, we missed out on these twenties, but we love each other and we're very sexual people, so let's go see if we could try some new experience. Right. Jazz, jazz it up a little. Yeah, we, went with no intentions of fixing anything. I really think that helped, especially being on the younger side of lifestyle. Mm-hmm. Because people always look at you mm, they might be immature. We've had friends on your podcast that will probably tell you where some of the more mature, early 30 year olds that go there because we've had that connection for so long. We don't let a lot of other things get between us and it makes it easier to have fun and express yourself and enjoy yourself.

Chloe:

Yes, I would totally agree.

Tramp:

That's awesome guys. Now, how about a not so perfect experience if you had Grace us with that

Elle:

And the reason we do this is because. People need to hear those stories. Yeah. When we first started and started listening to the podcast, it's like, oh God, yeah. I could totally see that happening. How would we deal with it?

Chloe:

Yeah. You know so this is another experience at the ranch. We were both, playing with the di different people and

Styles:

same room.

Chloe:

Same room. Okay. But yeah. And just like doing the funnel, you know, steps of, oral and everything and they wanted to go further. And I was like, okay, but we need condoms. So usually means the green light is good to go, right? Mm-hmm. And usually styles follows my lead. If we're having sex me and the other person, then he's like, oh, okay. Mm-hmm. Well, this time styles decided to not follow my lead and just started having sex. And so I kind of felt I got in my fields and I was like, oh, wow. He kind of crossed our boundary but not crossed our boundary. And so I kind of freaked out. And got dressed really fast and just ran upstairs, which probably was not a good time. Probably made the other couple feel really bad. Oh

Styles:

yeah.

Chloe:

So I felt really bad the next day.

Styles:

Yeah, that's a good point is how you make other couples feel in situations like that. Right. A lot of times you don't think back'cause you're so concerned about your relationship. But yeah, we, we definitely hurt the other couple's feelings that night, but. M again, my first priority is always gonna be my life. Mm-hmm. And that's just kind as it should be. Yes. And that's how I thought. So I, I immediately, stopped what I was doing and went after her. We did have to re-talk to the couple. We couldn't just leave'em like, no. Like,

Elle:

okay, nope, we're gone. Done. Yeah. And leave them wondering. Yes.

Tramp:

There's always those circumstances where I'm sure in their minds they were like, what the fuck just happened? Oh,

Styles:

that's what they told us.

Chloe:

Yeah. They're like, I'm not understanding what happened. Yeah. I thought we were all, they're like, I thought we were all on the same page. I thought so too. And then the moment that, I felt he did like, not cross the boundary, but didn't follow my, my jump the gun. Yeah.'Cause normally he just follows my lead and Yeah. This time he did not. And so I kind of felt hurt in the moment,

Elle:

but nothing to do with them. No, it had nothing. No, it had nothing to do

Chloe:

with them. And so I

Elle:

think it's just as important to have that communication with the people that you're playing with too. Oh yes.

Chloe:

The next day I text them and I wrote a whole thing like, I'm so sorry. And yeah, that was good. Yeah,

Tramp:

that's really good. It's a respectful thing to do. Yeah. So, yeah.

Styles:

I actually got a funny story if you guys wanna hear it. Yes, we

Elle:

absolutely do.

Styles:

So. Our first house party. Mm-hmm. You know, we were talking about going to different places. Our first house party ever was in the Denver area. Brand new to the scene. This is probably three months after we started going in

Chloe:

to the ranch. Yeah.

Styles:

Yep. To the ranch. So around Christmas time we go to this house party. Didn't know what to expect. Right. We've always heard about house parties. Didn't know if it was like a more aggressive area, more free for all. We didn't know. So we went there with open expectations and ended up being really fun. A lot of dancing. Awesome. Amazing house. And then we're dancing on the dance floor, getting our little groove on, and all of a sudden Chloe taps me and says, I think I know that person. Okay. Normally that's not bad. It's like, all right, not big deal. It's a little different when Chloe's known her since she was 13 and they used to dance all the time together. Oh, very strange.

Chloe:

Yeah. You wouldn't think that you would see another person at a lifestyle party, and so you're just like what do you do?

Styles:

Yeah. It was extremely weird.'cause the last time we saw her, she was what? 17? Yeah, I think so. So we, we've known her for six years pretty much our. Old, beginning of our early relationship, we knew this girl. Oh wow. Yeah.

Tramp:

And the thing with a house party is generally they're pretty well curated, which means it's not gonna be someone who just showed up randomly. Mm-hmm. Correct. How did

Styles:

that conversation go? We were the plus ones that night, again, getting introduced to the, the different people. And we found out that they knew that the house. Owners at the time and just randomly so that's kind of how they got brought in there. And then this night goes on. And then the weirder spot is, it's weird enough seeing someone there. And then Chloe at the time goes downstairs and there's her and two other girls, like she's in

Chloe:

a train of eating pussy. And I'm like, oh my God. Wow. Yeah, and I'm just like. Oh, wow. She's really in the lifestyle. I'm like, this is not

Styles:

new.

Chloe:

Yeah. I'm like, this is not her first time.

Styles:

Yep. On a pool table. Yeah. On a pool table. Yeah.

Chloe:

I was just like, oh. And I was like, oh, that's pretty hot at the same time. But I was like, wow.

Styles:

So it is a running thing now between us and her husband and her, well pretty much me and her husband, that we always joke about, what the girls got it on, you know, because. That'd be weird because they've known each other since they were 13 and now they're, you know, going at it with each other. It's like, how would that experience play out?

Chloe:

So

that's never

Chloe:

happened. No, but they always talk about it. So I've I've

Styles:

tried encouraging in your heads it's happened in your heads. Absolutely. It's happened in my head several times.

Tramp:

The imagination is a powerful thing. Yeah.

Elle:

Oh my gosh. Yeah. That's always interesting. We were at the club a couple weeks ago and I was with my friend that I used to work with that I got into the lifestyle.'cause she was, her and her boyfriend were very curious about it. And I had opened up one night after Margaritas and she's like, oh yeah, okay. And so they really loved going. And I had told her at one point that someone we worked with that was our boss at the company. Also had reached out to me previously on Cassidy and said, just in case we run into each other, I just wanna let you know I just saw you here. And I'm like, okay. And she was there with her boyfriend and I went to the bathroom and I'm like, I think that's our coworker. And I came back out and the two of them are talking. So the three of us are all at the ranch at the same time. I was like. Okay. It was a lot.

Tramp:

Definitely. So does that technically make it a corporate meeting? Did you have to keep

Elle:

Oh my God, let me imagine if we were still all working there. Oh, interesting. Monday. Yeah. Yeah. So it was, it was pretty hilarious. But yeah, that's never gonna happen. And, and with her, I'm encouraging. I fully support, you know, she kissed her first girl the other day and, just like my sorority sister, don't think we'd ever play. Might be in the same room with her. You're killing my dreams right now. I'm sorry. Yeah. Jay's two, but I don't ever wanna assume or put her in that position, you know?

Tramp:

I think that's an overarching thing in the lifestyle in terms of there's always the possibility. That's the biggest fear with mm-hmm. Newbies.

Elle:

Yeah.

Tramp:

W we're going to come face to face with a coworker or a friend or someone. You almost just have to convince yourself, well, it's gonna happen, but they are there for the same reason that you are. Exactly.

Elle:

Yes. And you hope that there's the respect that no one's gonna out the other person.

Styles:

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. You know, talk to your spouse about it, don't talk to other people about it. That couple may not like that part of their life exposed with what I do for work, we're kind of like that. We have so many friends from lifestyle. I would say 98% of our friends that live here

Elle:

are,

are lifestyle and they

Styles:

are the best people, right? Yes. Yeah, I agree with that.

Elle:

We did have a an unfortunate situation with that a couple years ago, Jay, when he was. Working a corporate job. And one of his coworkers had moved up from the Springs'cause she and her husband wanted to, they're like, yeah, we wanted, you know, we've heard about this swinger place and we wanna go. She's running around saying this at work. Oh. And, and Jake come home. He's like, oh, she was talking about it again. I go, oh, we're gonna run into her at some point. And and we did. And she showed up and, and her husband came over to Jay. He's like, Hey, listen, you guys are here. We're here. This is cool. Jay thought that was pretty good. And then there was another time that they had come and that they liked to go on glow night. And on Monday morning, Jay's out there working in the warehouse and another coworker came walking up and said, oh, Scarlet Ranch, huh? And. He held onto that all day. We had gone for Wednesday night dinner and we were sitting there and he is like, okay, you've had a glass of wine. I need to tell you this. And I'm like that C word. And I'm like, I wanna a throat puncher. You wanna talk about it? Talk about it all day long with whoever you want. You do not out somebody else. It was such exactly an uncool thing to do. And

Styles:

I was, yeah, and you can't get that back, right.'cause once it's out there. People like to talk.

Elle:

Right. Exactly. So, you know, he is telling everybody else. But it's like I wasn't her job to tell. No. Yeah. You know,

Styles:

and I think that's one of the things about having lifestyle friends. Everyone thinks that, if you have lifestyle friends, you guys just all play together. No, no. We have. Family gatherings. All of our lifestyle friends have know our kids. Yeah. Mm-hmm. We go pool days with the kids. We take'em out on the boats, together with the kids. We do everything as like families, not just, sexy time for the adults. Right. And it's, it's a game changer.

Chloe:

Yeah.'cause everybody knows how to turn it on and off, you just know and then coming up with how we actually like met, you know, always. It's always this is how we met. Yeah. So like

Styles:

what we brought up earlier with Chloe's parents being more reserved, that's always the thing is like when we have our kids' birthday parties, how do you guys know each other? Uhhuh well, let's try doing this on the fly.

Elle:

Yeah. Like figure out your story ahead of time. Yes.

Tramp:

Yes. And there's always this moment, and I think men are probably a little bit more guilty of this, where say it is a vanilla gathering but there's alcohol involved.

Elle:

Oh sure.

Tramp:

And you get a little buzz and all of a sudden, you. Oh, pat someone on the ass and you're, and right. You get shot that look like,

Chloe:

what are you doing? What? And

Tramp:

it's sometimes it's just so automatic, the familiarity

Chloe:

or when you like kiss each other when you say hello and goodbye. Mm-hmm. And sometimes, kids are like, did that just happen? And you're like, whoops.

Elle:

I's a little overly familiar.

Chloe:

Yeah. I think Styles has done that like a couple times and he's like. Oh wait,

Styles:

but I do the same thing. I'll go with my grandma's and I forget. I'm like, grandma, I like try kissing her lips. Like that's weird.

Tramp:

Well guys, in closing, is there any other wisdom that you guys want to hit us with? This has been an incredible Yeah. Fun conversation and just fun.

Styles:

I, I think to the population out there go. Explore what's good for you and your spouse, and don't let age or anything feel like you can't fit in. And don't let age be a defining factor between you and other people you play with.

Chloe:

Yeah. I would agree on that. If they're really good looking. Don't be like, oh, I can't go talk to them'cause they're good looking or mm-hmm. I feel like you should just have a open-minded and you can, no one's gonna judge you, or no one's gonna be like, oh, I don't wanna talk to you. You know? I just feel like the ranch is very opening, mm-hmm. For that. So, yeah.

Tramp:

Love it.

Chloe:

Yeah.

Elle:

Well, speaking of the ranch. I would like to just take a moment and give a special shout out to the Scarlet Ranch. It's North America's premier upscale private lifestyle destination. So if you're in the area or you're coming to Denver or think that you might be coming through, certainly check out the website at. Scarlet ranch.com and come and see the two incredible bars and the games and top-notch restaurant. If you get an opportunity to eat there, I always would highly recommend it. The food is amazing and there's spacious areas, open areas upstairs and private social areas downstairs when you wanna get a little steamier.

Tramp:

And I would add, as a general. Announcement. If you guys are coming to Colorado and gonna visit the ranch, drop us a line. There's a good chance that one, if not all three of us will be there. Very true. And we'd love to meet you guys.

Elle:

And also if you do come, let the ranch know that you heard about this on our podcast. We talk about how we mention it, just about every episode and, we would just like to see, you know, that that's made some reach and some impact. And also, I do wanna say moving out of that though, you are somewhere else in the country and you have a club that you're really excited about, you wanna share some stories and information, we'd love to talk to you and maybe see about getting you on the podcast and talk about adventures that are somewhere else. Right now, our pool is pretty much here in Colorado. Mm-hmm. And it is interesting and it's fun and I love getting to know. I didn't know you guys before last night when you came up and introduced yourselves which was very fun. And but we'd love to talk to other people too.

Tramp:

Always, always, any communication is very welcome.

Elle:

That's nice segue in.

Tramp:

Well, this week we do not have an a MA, so I'm gonna put our guests on the spot just a little bit. And I'm not trying to blindside you guys, but. Given our cumulative knowledge and time and the lifestyle. Do you guys have any burning questions for us?

I do. Okay.

Tramp:

Just like this one,

Styles:

Chloe, just fire it. When did you know that orgies were your thing?

Elle:

Ooh. Well, you're assuming an orgy is my thing. True properly, but you know, I think it was probably one of the first ones that we went to. We were going to a house party and we knew a lot of the people that were gonna be there and the situation was set up, so where a big group of people could play in one area and just the puppy pile feel, the not knowing who's doing what and where, and just all the feels and all the, physical touch and attention and that just blending of all the people together really, that that definitely was eyeopening and pleasurable.

Tramp:

I know I've mentioned on previous episodes, and you're absolutely right styles that a proper orgy, there's nothing like it. I think what I enjoy about it is you can kind of get lost in the moment.

Elle:

Mm-hmm.

Tramp:

Personally speaking, if I'm in a four way full swap situation, I always have a certain amount of attention on my partner. What is she doing? Whether it detracts from my interaction with the other gal at the time. But I think in the orgy situation, assuming that there's universal attraction, and that's more often to happen at a house party situation where the guest list is vetted or curated, if you will. And so chances are everyone is gonna be fairly attractive and you can mesh pretty well with everyone. It's about the energy, I think. It's just everyone is having a good time and the sights and sounds, and it's so much fun to get lost in that moment for me.

Elle:

I like that. Yes. Agreed wholeheartedly. What about you guys? And turn it right back around to you.

Chloe:

We've never done an orgy before.

Oh

Chloe:

yeah. Okay. No. Like we keep getting invited to house parties that end up in that situation and we kind of step a little back from it.

Elle:

Does it seem like it's just too much going on? Interesting. You would ask that question. So why did you ask the question?

Styles:

Because I was always curious about it.'cause like Chloe said, we, we've never experienced one and, and we do, usually when we find ourselves in that situation, we kind of pull ourselves out of it and just kind of watch. It'd all go down.

Elle:

Well, I like what Tramp had said, it's that you're just in the moment and the nice thing about it is you get out of your head and you're not thinking about the next move or what's happening or what your is going on with your partner. And you are literally in the moment,

Tramp:

and you have to trust that your partner. Is safe. Yeah, they are. Okay. And and part of that is, is trusting the rest of the group. Mm-hmm. Absolutely. Yes. All the men in the group. All the women in the group.

Elle:

Mm-hmm.

Tramp:

I would assume, based on that answer you guys are strictly a same room swap situation. Yes. Okay.

Styles:

Yeah. I guess we didn't explain that earlier. Yeah, we're same room. We've done full swap. Yeah, we appreciate seeing each other. We feed off of that. Yeah. Oh, I, I'm

Tramp:

completely on board with that. But in an orgy situation, you're going to lose sight of your partner. You still may physically be in the same room, but with all the bodies and all the, you know, activities, exciting, it's, it's very easy to say, oh wait, she was there and you make Lance over, and all of a sudden she's not there anymore. And there's that moment of panic. But you just kinda have to trust, trust inside. It's like, you know what? She's safe if she needed me. Or he needed me, they would come grab me and of course, they're my number one priority and I'm gonna disengage when you're done that and we're gonna figure out whatever the issue is at that moment.

Elle:

Mm-hmm.

Tramp:

That's awesome. Yeah. God, it is so much fun.

Elle:

I understand why you would be a little resistant to that. It's not a comfort level or your wheelhouse, and it may never be. And that's the beauty of this. Yeah, that's okay. That's perfect for you guys. There's nothing wrong with that, but I love to learn, you know? Yes. And also it's kind of fun to watch sometimes. Oh yeah, definitely. All the different body parts definitely fun. The watch. Yes. So there's, there's nothing wrong with that, that in your, you're kink, you're. Go to or comfort level. Yeah. Yeah.

Tramp:

Love it.

Elle:

Great question. I love it. Yeah. I truly thank you guys. Thank you.

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Elle:

Yay.

Tramp:

Well Styles. And Chloe, this has just been an amazing morning.

Elle:

Thanks for coming over and doing this. Thanks for having us. Yes, thanks for having us. I love, I just love hearing everybody's point of views, and their stories.

Tramp:

Everyone's as unique and the more information that we can put out there, whether people are on the fence or maybe they're veterans it's a new perspective.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's always putting out a new

Tramp:

perspective and making people think.

Elle:

Right. And not assume you see somebody long younger like you and Oh well, you know, oh, they're really not into it, or they're not as committed, or, you know, whatever. Or they

Styles:

might have problems.

Right. Exactly. And I really enjoyed getting to know both of you today.

Styles:

Thank you for having us and yeah, I think we. Great Sunday today.

Yep.

Styles:

Let's go Broncos and wear your hey dudes on Sundays. No.

Elle:

Oh, that's right. We didn't bring that up. We were talking about that last night that if you listen to two podcasts ago Bryce, Bryce had mentioned somebody who shows up every time in t-shirt and, Hey dudes. And that's him here. His name is Styles.

Styles:

Thank you. Thank you. And Styles,

Elle:

ironically with the name, might wanna up his game someday and shock us all and wear, I don't know, a button up shirt or

Styles:

leave the people on in it.

Elle:

Somebody is stubborn.

Tramp:

Well everyone thank you once again just for continuing to come on this journey with us. We can be reached at unapologetic swingers@gmail.com. Our website is also unapologetic swingers.com, and the biggest ask that we have is wherever you have to be listening, just leave us a review that helps us out and helps get the message out more than anything at all.

Elle:

Yes, please, and thank you. Until next time, I'm l

Tramp:

and I'm the tramp.

Elle:

Be sexy, be

Tramp:

confident,

Elle:

be unapologetic. Okay.