Unapologetic Swingers: Epsiode 37 - Afterglow!

This time Jay and the Tramp are in the hot seat as Elle deep dives into our individual experiences with one epic glow party.

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Transcript

Elle 0:02

Welcome back to Unapologetic Swingers. I'm Al.

Tramp 0:05

And I'm the Tramp.

Jay 0:06

And I'm Jay.

Elle 0:08

Yay.

Tramp 0:10

Just as I say every single episode, everyone, thank you for coming on this journey with us as we explore the lifestyle, many aspects of the lifestyle through our own experiences and interviews with people that we hold dear, new friends, old friends, but just. An overall journey through the lifestyle, the highs and lows and everything in between.

Elle 0:33

Oh, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Jay 0:35

Yes. And we're gonna change the format up a little bit today. L would you like to take it away?

Elle 0:42

Sure. So this last weekend. My boys went off on their own sexual adventure and got on an airplane and flew away to have a weekend without me, which was fully my choice be'cause of some physical issues I've been having going on. I didn't. Feel up for the trip, but I certainly didn't wanna hold Jay back and I have no control over the other one over here. So I highly recommended that they take their field trip to go to the Pacific Northwest and visit cc. There was a glow party going on this weekend that we had. Have previously talked about but the invite came out and the tickets were reasonable and they jumped on a jet airplane and went off for the weekend. And I would like to say that they have both been really good about not sharing a whole lot with me so that I could ask some questions and hear about it. Just so you all know, you're hearing this at about the same time I'm hearing this, i'm excited to find out what happened.

Tramp 1:51

You have no idea how hard it was when you picked us up at the airport, just trying to keep this, but I wanna share lip

Elle 1:59

zipped now. The good news is you both were pretty exhausted. So it was probably a little easier than it might normally be to not share anything with me.'cause I think, I thought I saw your head lull back against the headrest on the way home that Sunday. We were

Jay 2:15

completely wiped out when we got in the car and we will tell you why.

Elle 2:21

Yay. So you guys left on Friday morning I dropped you off at the airport.

Tramp 2:26

And this entire trip was all of 48 hours.

Elle 2:30

Yeah.

Tramp 2:32

And so we went up to the Pacific Northwest where this glow party, and either before or after this episode airs, we will have an interview with the founder and host of this party. And I think you guys are really gonna like it. So this will add. Not just context to that interview, but through our eyes to tell you what we experienced over the course of the weekend.

Elle 2:57

Yeah, it sounds like this gentleman has pretty well dialed in on doing these parties and travels around to different states and put some on, so I think you guys are gonna try and get one heading here in Colorado too. Oh

Jay 3:10

yeah. He and his partner are an amazing couple. They really are. They're just, so down to earth, unpretentious, attractive fit. And we'll talk about what she brought to the pre-party.

Elle 3:23

Oh yeah. In a

Jay 3:24

few.

Elle 3:24

Okay. So you guys got there and Cece picked you up at the airport and tell me about the weekend. Let's go.

Tramp 3:33

It was really hit the ground running. We knew that our time was limited and Cece is. A mover and a shaker. She likes to go.

Elle 3:46

That grass doesn't go dead underneath her feet, does it?

Tramp 3:49

No, not at all. And I love that about her. Yeah. But I think there were a lot of things planned for us, and quite frankly, we didn't get to all of them. But that will have to make another trip just to, there we go. And

Jay 4:01

she was so great because she's we can do this, we can do this. We can go here, we can go here. And I was like, sweetheart, we're lemmings. Just tell us where you want to go and we'll go and we'll be grateful. I say we don't dwell on Friday night, just the usual dinner at friends and stuff like that. And we jump to Saturday and talk about the pre-party and the prep and then the party itself. Does that sound like a plan? That sounds like a plan to me.

Elle 4:25

Okay. Let's see. There was a, an event before the party. With a class, if I am correct?

Jay 4:34

Yes. The attendees of the party came from all different types of lifestyle and kink, and our hostess put on an impact class.

Elle 4:45

Okay.

Jay 4:46

Very excellent class. She covered a wide range of things. There was 20. I think it was 20, about 20 people. They kept it

Tramp 4:54

smaller and manageable on purpose,

Jay 4:56

and she's gorgeous and she's in her little sexy black vinyl. Dominatrix outfit and everybody, boys and girls are just like, oh God, yes,

Elle 5:07

I'm listening. And,

Jay 5:08

Incredible instruction and demonstrations on her partner and then broke us up. Ever. We wanted to use the following toys, go find a place in the house or stay here in the main room and. Get into it. Practice. So she gave

Elle 5:24

you a bunch of instructional information ahead of time, didn't just send you off with weapons of mass destruction.

Jay 5:31

No and this is my wheelhouse, right? I'm very well practiced in this, but this was a totally new experience for Tramp Thoughts. So Tramp, what were

Elle 5:40

your thoughts? Yeah, it

Tramp 5:41

was, I really enjoyed it, but I have a hard time. Getting outta my own head, I think, to say, okay, I'm not the type of person who wants to inflict pain on anyone. That's just not my wheelhouse. Yeah. And the hostess was very forthcoming to say, that's okay. I'm not here to force anything. But she went really in depth as far as. Explaining everything, especially about consent and communication, and especially since in the kink world, they call it a scene, how you're doing constant check-ins. You figure out your safe words or exit words and You discuss everything in advance. And you don't change it. Mid play or mid scene, I guess is the more proper term, but it was really informative to see it dissected at that level and to talk about the different implements since this was impact focus, they had paddles, they had flails, they had

Jay 6:45

Floggers of all different types. And she went through them and explained why the difference and the different sensations they produce, crops, paddles she's not a big fan of switches or canes. And yeah, she walked through how a scene should be conducted without going into a step by step. Leave some of it up to the imagination. Talked about the perils and pitfalls, mistakes that can be made. Good. And then the positive side, getting your partner into what's called subspace. You're so pumped full of endorphins because of the stimulation your body's been through that you just. Reach a wonderful state of no mind. Yeah. You literally can't do simple math at that point, a joke. She says, a lot of people like to have the bottom or sub counting the strokes, counting the paddles or whatever, but you get so high, it's like. Nope. Nope. The number was I on. Yep. Can't you can't do it. So that was wonderful. And then, like I said, we split up and I got the privilege of administering to Cece's, good friend. And we went up, had a room to ourselves, been her over the chair. We talked, we sat first and talked because she didn't know me very well. then we had a nice seam where I had her bent over a chair and it was just the back of her thighs and her bottom. And maybe 15 minutes, 20 at the most. And we both had a really wonderful experience. It was a good, it was a good time for both of us. We liked that a lot.

Elle 8:17

Okay. So you both learned a few things?

Tramp 8:19

I would like to add that despite my earlier reservations, as I'm really partner pleasure driven. Sure. If it was something that my partner was interested in, I could probably put myself out there a little bit, whether it be on the, what would you call it, J The, administering end, or the receiving end, top or bottom. Okay. Okay.

Elle 8:43

And, but I can picture with you if that was the situation, you would spend some time getting to know what she was particularly interested in and how to administer that properly so that you didn't accidentally injure her or hurt her somehow. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. That would be

Tramp 9:03

honestly my biggest concern.

Elle 9:05

So what I'm hearing and what I'm getting out of this is you went. To open your mind, not necessarily to participate, but just to learn more about it, so in case this comes up.

Jay 9:17

Absolutely.

Elle 9:17

Yeah. I think that's great.

Jay 9:19

And then you and Cece ran to get food. And I stayed behind and helped with some of the setup. They covered all the floors with black sheets because this wasn't just a glow party, this was a glow paint. Party. So the venue, which was a really nice log cabin style home really was a perfect space for this. The way there were private rooms, but there was the main floor, high vaulted ceilings. They were even gonna do ChAARI and suspension work off of the stairs underneath. And they went so far as to dye the ropes in glow paint.

Elle 9:58

Oh, wow.

Jay 9:59

I don't know, 25 black lights throughout the house. Maybe more. I would almost

Tramp 10:04

think there was more.'cause every room, like every space. Yeah. Whether it be the private bedrooms, the hallways the main floor that Jay was talking about, even back to the kitchen area, was all bathed in just massive amounts of black light. I've never seen that much. Even when you saw someone's eyes.

Elle 10:26

They glowed. Yeah,

Tramp 10:28

It was really

Jay 10:29

cool.

Elle 10:29

Wow.

Jay 10:30

Yeah, it was very fun. And once it was all set up, people started arriving.

Elle 10:34

Oh, I wanted to go back just a little bit before the event happened because you had said there were approximately 72 people there, but the host. Called you or set up a time to talk to each of you. So this was very,

Jay 10:52

yes. You had to be cultivated. Yes. Cultivated. You had to be fully vetted. And in our case, coming from out of town, even though we were highly recommended by CC, who is a regular in this group he wanted to interview us basically. And so we did FaceTime and we had a talk for 20, 30 minutes. And by the end of it, we got to know him. He knew us. It was all good. We were welcomed as if we'd been part of the group forever.

Elle 11:18

Nice. It was

Jay 11:19

really nice.

Elle 11:19

Nice. Okay.

Tramp 11:21

It's really interesting because he said specifically that he curated this group and it spread, but he still vets every single person.

Elle 11:33

Yeah.

Tramp 11:34

Because he wants to be able to trust everyone. Who is attending. Sure. Instead of just a random who may overindulge or just get a little crazy because it's really, his reputation is on the line, and I admire that so much.

Elle 11:50

Yeah. He wanted to make sure of what kind of person you were, how you would be interacting with the other people at the party, what your depth of character is. That makes sense.

Jay 12:00

Absolutely. And plus a chat group, so you got a feel for people before the event started. Then everyone shows up and we're mixing, we're mingling. Then here's the glow paint.

Elle 12:12

Yeah.

Jay 12:12

They had two big tables with all this paint and markers and everything, and stencils and you don't even know anybody. It's I don't see any paint on your arms, may I? Oh, please do. And suddenly you're having a conversation while you're just being creative.

Elle 12:26

Was there a little bit of a schedule coming up to the party?

Tramp 12:29

There was a little bit of one. One thing that Jay didn't mention was you had to be there for a consent. Talk smart early on, and if you miss the consent talk. You weren't allowed. He said, I will happily refund you, but you're not allowed to attend. It doesn't matter if this is your first time right? Or your 10th time.

Elle 12:49

You gotta hear it every time.

Tramp 12:50

You have to hear it every time.

Elle 12:51

And consent to the consent talk.

Jay 12:53

Yeah. And that was at eight? 8:00 PM

Elle 12:55

Okay.

Jay 12:55

Yeah. Just before eight. Yep. Okay. So we get the consent talk very detailed. Everybody be an adult, be responsible, don't overindulge consent, all the different factors that go with consenting.

Elle 13:08

So they closed the doors at that point, no one else coming in,

Jay 13:12

correct? Correct. Okay. But like I said, 72 people.

Elle 13:16

Yeah.

Jay 13:16

And it wasn't packed. Because the space was so perfect. People up in the loft, people in the kitchen, people in the big dining area, painting people in the main room painting it was just such a great crew. And then at one point what, I forget what time they got everybody together for a big, giant glow group picture.

Tramp 13:36

Yeah, that was about 10 30. But also as a slight humorous interjection. I learned I'm not very artistic.

Elle 13:44

I was gonna ask, how did that go? I had a couple people ask

Tramp 13:47

me to paint them, and I have some work to do before the next one, and there will definitely be a next

Jay 13:52

one. I'm right there with you. Words are my thing. Not paint, not sketching.

Elle 13:57

There was one time when we were at desire and it was glow night and we brought a box of glow crayons, body crayons. And so I thought, okay, I'm gonna go around. And I went around to everybody that was outside and drew a heart on them to mark them, and that was my sort of. Icebreaker there. But then this woman asked if she could draw on my shoulder and drew this beautiful lion with a great mane and everything. And I looked at her and I said, yeah, these are for you and you must now go around and paint with. On people. And I got the feel she was an introvert and this gave her that option to interact with people and to build that connection. So I can definitely see how that happened, if you're an introvert, bring body paint too, thing it was,

Jay 14:46

she was very shy. I remember that. Yeah. But people were not too shy at this party. Most

Elle 14:51

people had been to one before.

Jay 14:54

Most. Okay. I'd say I half a dozen, maybe it was their first time.

Tramp 14:58

Okay. I think from the interview with the host. He had said that typically the new percentage is roughly, I believe he said somewhere between 20 and 30%.

Elle 15:11

Okay. So it's mostly experienced people who have been there know what to expect. Yeah.

Jay 15:15

Repeat offenders, if you'll, oh, there

Elle 15:17

you go. Oil like that.

Jay 15:18

And everybody brought some kind of glow wear. Whether it was, glow in the dark harnesses or the women in their lingerie. Sure. And there were so many just beautiful bodies.

Tramp 15:29

What'd

Jay 15:30

you think

Tramp 15:31

it was? I would say overall attractiveness, probably of the most attractive groups that I've quite frankly ever seen in a lifestyle space. Nice. Both men and women and. Jay's right? No one just showed up everyone. No one in effort

Elle 15:49

made the effort. Oh,

Jay 15:50

and the other rule was absolutely no one's allowed to play until 10 30.

Elle 15:56

Oh. To

Jay 15:56

force everyone to paint and mix and mingle.

Elle 16:00

Scooting off with somebody or a couple of somebodies to go play. You had to talk to people. Yep. So might as well make it, make your time useful. Okay. Now

Tramp 16:09

I will admit that I did whisk away a particular lady a little before schedule.

Elle 16:15

You were such a rule breaker. We,

Tramp 16:17

Had a little warmup, shall we say,

Elle 16:20

A prelude.

Jay 16:21

He's grinning, but he's not giving any details. Ladies and gentlemen. I

Elle 16:25

know.

Jay 16:27

No,

Tramp 16:27

please tell us. It was, it got a little hot and heavy. I just couldn't hold back any longer. Yeah. Had to have myself a little taste.

Elle 16:34

Was this somebody you had just met?

Tramp 16:37

Yes. I just met her in person. Okay. That weekend.

Elle 16:41

But you had been chatting with her? Yes, we

Tramp 16:43

had,

Elle 16:43

Cece had connected the two of you up.

Tramp 16:45

Absolutely. Nice. And it won't be the last time either.

Elle 16:48

Oh, nice.

Jay 16:49

She is quite a cutie. Excellent. Very sweet. Also.

Elle 16:53

Excellent. Nice to see you. Were a little bit of a fire starter there, my friend.

Tramp 16:57

You know me, Elle, how in those situations, despite having, obviously cece there and other friends if I would've been solo, I still would've had a good time, but I still would've been my normal introverted self.

Elle 17:13

A little bit of holding back.

Tramp 17:14

Yeah. And I'm still working on that. It's a work in progress.

Elle 17:16

I'm just, I'm proud of every step you take. To step out of your comfort zone and to, it was few brownies. It was good to see. Nice as his friend. It

Jay 17:24

was good to see. Good. And Cece and her bestie had these sheer capes that were all lit up. Oh

Elle 17:32

yeah,

Jay 17:32

I've seen those. Those were fun but then it was after 10, but before 10 30, she decided to be able. Bit of a naughty fire starter and grabbed about seven eight of us to go up to one of the bedrooms to play. Spin the bottle.

Elle 17:48

Ah. And how was that?

Jay 17:51

Like I said, all the women were just so attractive and spinning the bottle. Of course, 90% of it was the girls kissing the girls, which they all were darn happy with. And I think my first spin it went to, it pointed at Tramp and I went, love you man. He's like, love you too.

Elle 18:10

What else are you gonna do? What else?

Jay 18:12

But then more and more people kept coming in and adding to the game. And then finally there was like 20 people in the room and we're just like, okay, it's too hot and this is just too much. And

Elle 18:22

yeah,

Jay 18:23

so we left others

Elle 18:24

to. So you weren't really starting the play session, you were just doing a little warmup. Yeah. Little prelude.

Jay 18:30

No, that was all ce. Yeah. She's wonderful. She is. Yeah. And yeah, then people started playing in all kinds of different ways. And on the loft, in the bedrooms there was us, like I said, they were hoisting people up, doing suspension ChAARI. We had a dj. It was very good. And a lot of people were just dancing. There were. Party favors being used of all kinds. Think we're Pacific Northwest. You can use your imagination, but nobody o overindulged. Everybody just used it as a party enhancer.

Elle 19:04

Was there alcohol or less alcohol used and more party favors?

Tramp 19:08

I would say honestly, less alcohol. I saw very little. Alcohol to Interesting. Be honest.

Jay 19:14

Yeah. Those alcoholic seltzer beverages. That was about the extent of it. Nobody was drinking, whiskey on the rocks or making, so no one got sloppy

Elle 19:23

drunk.

Jay 19:23

Nobody got sloppy drunk.

Elle 19:25

Nice.

Jay 19:26

Which, yes. Thank you all for that. Much appreciated.

Tramp 19:30

And really, as you guys know, I've, I do enjoy a little bit of alcohol. Sure. At the ranch or whatnot. Since I was dry in that sense, I woke up feeling pretty darn amazing. I was exhausted. Okay. Don't get me wrong. I know I saw you, but I didn't have that blah.

Elle 19:48

Yeah. Feeling.

Tramp 19:50

So it's huh, maybe. Maybe they're onto something there.

Elle 19:52

Okay. Look at that lesson learned.

Jay 19:55

Yeah. But everybody was just in such a free and loving, yeah. Friendly. Across the board. 72 people. Yeah. And everybody, not a one wasn't friendly if you walked up and said hi. They didn't greet you with a smile. It was for me, an outta towner. That meant a lot.

Elle 20:12

Yeah.

Jay 20:12

And me being the oldest person in the venue, I don't know that they knew that though. That also meant a lot.

Elle 20:21

You don't look it babe.

Jay 20:22

Ah, thanks. But, yeah, in fact, towards the end of the evening CE her friend, your new friend me and a good eight other people were all in one of the bedrooms with Oh wow. Multiple beds. Little twin beds

Tramp 20:38

And

Jay 20:38

air mattresses, and. Everybody was playing in some form or fashion, and it was just so erotic and fun and the blue light and oh. So I have to interject this one scene. For L we're gonna get a black light for the bedroom. Yeah. And we're gonna get a little bit of face paint because at one point Cece's Bestie was. Going down on me and I looked down and because of her face paint, which you forget you have it on, it was like this incredibly exotic creature was giving me head. And you like that? It was just so cool. It was a moment you just had to acknowledge this is something you've never seen before. Yeah. And it was really cool. And she was amazing.

Elle 21:26

So what other things, you're not giving me a lot of details about. The sexy stuff.

Jay 21:32

Ooh,

Elle 21:33

I want some sexy details.

Jay 21:34

Tramp was popular, so your Cece and her bestie and they're pretty much doing all the things. With and to him, that was pretty, there

Tramp 21:44

was a

Jay 21:45

lot

Tramp 21:45

of that and it's amazing how once playtime started at 10 30, all the clothes seem to disappear. I'm actually quite. Surprised so I was wearing, kept it simple because I knew I would be painted and I was all over, but just a nice tight white pair of shorts that I knew would fluoresce under the black light.

Elle 22:07

Yeah. Smart,

Tramp 22:08

even though they ended up looking a little bit more pinkish or purplish than Oh yeah.

Jay 22:14

I was wearing a glow in the dark harness that I got online and didn't realize it was a two piece set and I didn't buy the bottom. So I had to, I basically had to get a green and white jockstrap. And of course you don't know what people are painting on your back. Yes. And one of the women on my ass cheeks wrote Yes. Please.

Elle 22:39

Oh, that's where trust comes in. Yes, if you want to say that.

Jay 22:44

But the sex was amazing with all the beautiful, just everyone so different, but so beautiful and so sexy, and each special.

Tramp 22:53

Just an open and flowing. It was very flowing. And I don't know if that was more the party favors Or the people. Just the people, yeah. And the environment.

Jay 23:03

Yeah. Not a lot of hangups. Not a lot of, no drama. There were people who didn't play at all. There were couples. Okay. That's true. There's always gonna be. Yeah. And but others who are only interested in like the ChAARI or just being creative downstairs.

Elle 23:16

Yeah.

Tramp 23:17

Yeah. You could really. Choose your own adventure, and it was cool.

Elle 23:22

Nice.

Jay 23:23

What time did we finally call it a night and get dressed? I'm fuzzy.

Tramp 23:27

It was probably around, oh 3, 3 30. Yeah. It was late for you and I and you could tell that the crowd was thinning. Okay. But I think the last hour and a half Oh, it was all cuddles. Yeah, it was. Yeah.'cause with so many bodies the playrooms that Jay was talking about, or the primary playrooms, I guess you could say with that many bodies packed in there, it's gonna get warm.

Elle 23:53

Yeah, for sure.

Tramp 23:54

So no matter how much airflow you tried to push through but it was just. So comfortable. I love bubbles. Yeah. It really was just basking nice. In the afterglow.

Jay 24:07

Yeah. You're laying on the couch by yourself. Beautiful woman comes and like you look comfy. It just squeezes down next to you and you wrap your arms and you're just cuddling, watching the people across from you playing Nice. It was, that's

Elle 24:21

my favorite part of a night. Truly. Yeah.

Jay 24:23

You're a big cuddler.

Elle 24:24

I am a big cuddler. I like that.

Tramp 24:27

And I think in that timeframe as well. Just some of the conversations and someone will say something funny and everyone just laughs. It's just such a good point. There was a lot

Jay 24:36

of that.

Elle 24:37

Oh, a lot of laughter. Yes. That's the best kind. Yes.

Jay 24:40

A lot of funny jokes at certain people's expense. Sure. So it was good. We were grinning when we very tired, got up the next morning to go back and help with the cleanup.

Elle 24:53

Yeah.

Jay 24:53

To free up the host and his lady so that they could be interviewed.

Elle 24:57

Yeah. So that was nice.

Tramp 24:59

Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's gonna be a really good interview. They get into a lot of different aspects of how this all came about and as El had mentioned. I'm doing my best to bring the party out to Colorado.

Elle 25:14

I think that'd be great. I would love to be a part of that.

Jay 25:18

Might need an a venue. Yeah. We might need to find the right space. Yeah. Yeah. And start a list of who we want there. We gotta start doing our homework.

Elle 25:28

Yep. Exactly.

Tramp 25:30

But I have to say, as Jay had mentioned, the thought and. Organization and just the investment into not only all the bedding supplies and the sheets that covered every single square inch of floor almost.

Elle 25:46

Yeah.

Tramp 25:47

And the beds, yeah. And the couches and the black lights, probably thousands of dollars in high intensity black lights. It was quite the investment and it showed. And that every aspect was absolutely was well thought out and I'm sure they've had some growing pains because I believe he said this was the 41st and 42nd.

Jay 26:09

Nope. 40th and 41st. Okay. Wow. But. Everybody was vetted, so there was none of that, frat party, Hey, it's not my place. I don't give a damn. Yeah, everybody was so respectful, so careful. If something got spilled, they, everybody was on it right away. And what I really enjoyed, and I hope they hear this. I really love the fact that they weren't constantly walking around making sure everything and everyone was okay. They knew everyone was okay and having fun, and they got to enjoy themselves too.

Elle 26:44

That doesn't always happen with people who put on the party.

Jay 26:47

Correct. But they did. They're such a beautiful couple. They are so into each other and they have some close friends and just to pop downstairs and here they are on the dance floor making out, or, it was I feel good to be part of it.

Elle 27:02

Favorite situation that night?

Jay 27:05

In the main party room that we spent most of our time with, they had a little sex couch. And with Cece's bestie, she and I got on there and put on a bit of a show Oh. For everybody did tell. She and I clicked so well, and we just eyes locked as we just, we went at it. In front of everybody and it was really fun with her. She's a wonderful person and a great lover.

Elle 27:32

Good.

Tramp 27:32

I'm gonna speak a little bit more broadly where, not that people were uninhibited per se, but that the communication, even with a stranger like myself, was so top-notch. Just to be able to come up and say, Hey, can I kiss you? Oh. Or, there was a

Jay 27:53

lot of

Tramp 27:54

that. Yeah. And you guys may notice I'm a little raspy in the voice right now.

Elle 27:58

Oh. So if anyone's listening, that's there.

Tramp 28:01

It's because. Oftentimes when you come back from any big multi-day lifestyle experience. Yeah. Whether it's desire or hido or the bliss cruise Yes. Or whatever, chances are you've kissed more than one person and Yep. You may, things happen. Things happen. So honestly, I think that was my favorite part and then you are talking and you're laughing and you're connecting on that level, it could lead to something. It may not.

Elle 28:27

Yeah.

Tramp 28:27

Same thing with several attractive ladies just walking up to me and it's definitely outside of my comfort zone just to say, Hey, do you mind if I kiss you? By all means.

Elle 28:37

So it sounds like you guys felt included, you felt a part of it. You didn't feel on the outside

Jay 28:42

Very much

Elle 28:43

yeah. That's great.

Jay 28:44

And that's a hat tip to all the people at the party. Yeah. They made us feel very welcome.

Tramp 28:49

Yeah. And just, a huge thank you to, and I know I've told her this all weekend. But Cece,

Jay 28:55

absolutely love you, baby,

Elle 28:57

and thank you Cece, for taking care of my boys.

Tramp 29:00

But I cannot wait until we can go back for another one. Okay. As I told the host. It was honestly the best single lifestyle event that I've ever been to.

Elle 29:12

Wow.

Jay 29:13

Now, to be fair, does that mean L goes with you next time and I stay back here?

Elle 29:20

No, I think we all go. That's the good answer. That's the right answer. Not really that excited about traveling without you. No offense, tramp. I totally would go somewhere with you, but thank you baby. I missed you this weekend. I missed you too. I went to the ranch on Saturday night and I think it was unusual for people to see me there without you, and they were like, where's Jay? Said, oh, he's having his own little sexual adventure in the Pacific Northwest. You're single tonight. Yep. But I sat at a table and

Jay 29:55

socialized.

Elle 29:55

Socialized all night, and then came home, went to bed. It was great. Got me out of the house, which was nice.

Jay 30:01

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Elle 30:03

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Tramp 30:25

Elle, was there any other burning questions that you had?

Elle 30:29

No, I think you guys covered it pretty well. I feel a little bit like I missed out. But I'm just so happy that you both went and you had such a good time and met some amazing people. So that makes me happy

Jay 30:42

If I may going to an event like this without you. Yeah, it was a very different experience. If I had gone with you, we would've been a couple. It would've been l and j. That's how everybody would've met us, right? And even though if we weren't in the same room at some, I'd go search you out, make sure you were okay. You would search me out. The fact that I didn't have to think about you.

Elle 31:05

Okay. For

Jay 31:05

lack of a better. I'm always thinking about you. I know, but I didn't have to worry about you. I knew you were home safe. I was free to just wander and meet and play. And that was a unique experience for me. Thank you for that. I'm

Elle 31:19

really glad to hear you say that.'cause I know sometimes when you go to the ranch without me, if I'm outta town, you feel a little outta sorts and feel like you're missing an arm. But the fact that you were,

Jay 31:31

no one has ever called you an arm.

Elle 31:35

But the fact that you were able to go and just relax and let loose and enjoy yourself and be the pleasure monger that you are, and share pleasure with other people and give pleasure, that makes me happy.

Jay 31:52

Yay.

Tramp 31:55

Now the last thing I want to interject and is when Jay and I eventually in the Preda hours made our way back to the hotel, I think we were still just boast so amped up from, oh my God, the events of the evening that we. Talked in the darkness of

Elle 32:14

the whole,

Jay 32:15

oh, it was summer camp two of us. Oh, and you remember this part? Oh my God, that was so cool. And then we just sit there laughing. Probably a half hour to get us to just wind down, even though we were exhausted at that point.

Elle 32:27

That's funny.

Jay 32:28

Yeah, that was pretty funny.

Elle 32:31

Good. It shows that you guys were a good match to room together. Thank you for the recap and making me wish I had gone, but,

Jay 32:41

and a big shout out to all our new friends in the Pacific Northwest. Yeah. You guys were amazing.

Tramp 32:46

Absolutely.

Elle 32:47

Yeah. Awesome.

Tramp 32:50

Everyone, we have received a AMAs. Ooh.

Elle 32:53

So we're

Tramp 32:53

gonna launch into those. The last couple episodes, we've been either running long or it's just gotten a little too complicated or the topic matter, just overwhelmed everything. Yeah. Let's do it. We are ready. Alright.

Jay 33:07

This will be the first time we are hearing Yes, these AMAs trampling to keep this a secret. I do.

Tramp 33:14

Today's a MA question is from RS and he says. I'm listening to your podcast, trying to learn and understand the lifestyle it is exciting to say the least, but we have never heard talk on a podcast addressing age, specifically new couples who are already in their late fifties, early sixties, who would like to live life more. We've discussed the lifestyle for 10 years now, different aspects. And we are ready to enjoy meeting others. But we wonder is there such a thing as too old to begin?

Elle 33:53

No. RS that is a great question and to just give a little bit of my background on this. I was 52 when I met Jay. Long story. I was going through a second divorce and was not gonna get married again. Was looking just to have a good time and an interesting time and wanted to meet a lot of people and someone I had dated talked about the lifestyle and I thought, huh, that's intriguing. Okay. So when I met Jay on our first date, I asked him if he knew about the lifestyle and so I was 52 when we got into it. We'd been in it for six years. And there are plenty of people our age or around there, and actually I would say it does skew to forties, to fifties for the most part because empty nesters. Empty nesters, and more discernible income because it isn't necessarily a cheap thing. And it's the perfect time to get into that.

Jay 34:55

We were on the Blist Crews. There were couples in their seventies walking around. Yeah. Maybe they're not playing with other couples anymore at this point, but they're still part of the lifestyle. They love the people. They love the sexy vibe.

Elle 35:09

Yeah.

Jay 35:10

And they're just wonderful people all the way around, still living

Elle 35:12

their best life. We talk about how much time do we have. Ticking left in the flagstone before we age out. As I like to say, it is a topic of conversation, but there's Makes you hit the gym more, that's for sure. It certainly does, which is a good thing, then that'll help us stay around longer,

Tramp 35:29

If you look good, you feel good.

Elle 35:31

Yeah. And

Tramp 35:32

there were only positives.

Elle 35:35

I agree to

Tramp 35:35

that, not only for your own health and longevity, but also in other aspects.

Jay 35:39

And if I may, there are couples in their fifties, but pushing 60 that have been in the lifestyle for 30 years. Yeah. There are couples like you're going to hear on a following up podcasts or a previous podcast I should say. They're in their mid fifties and they just started two years ago. You become empty nesters, you're financially or fiscally solvent, and. Why the hell not? Let's go have you wanna do more? Let's go have fun together. Yeah. And grow together and we love it. We love the people, we love the experiences.

Elle 36:14

Yeah.

Tramp 36:15

LI think you touched on something important. The lifestyle, broadly speaking, is not. Cheap hobby.

Elle 36:23

It is not

Tramp 36:24

by the time you factor in whether you're going to your local club and paying every time you visit or go on a vacation, whether it be to Hido or Desire or a Bliss cruise. Correct. Even if you travel, you have to

Elle 36:37

go to another state to just go to another club.

Tramp 36:40

Exactly,

Elle 36:40

yeah. It's, it costs some money or go to a

Tramp 36:42

hotspot, whether it be, there are lots of options in Florida, for example. Las Vegas is always a hotspot and all these things require. Capital to go and truly enjoy.

Elle 36:53

True.

Tramp 36:54

Agreed. So you really don't find a lot of super young quote unquote people, definitely not too many in their twenties.

Elle 37:06

No. I think we do see'em in the summertime when we have the phone parties at the ranch. That does attract a younger crowd, a lot of EDM music. Somehow they hear the word out. Truly we see them for that weekend and then we never see'em again. And I don't know if it's, they're walking around going, there's a lot of old naked people around here, or what the deal is. But

Jay 37:27

I would say the majority of regulars, yeah. And I do mean regulars. You see them a couple times a month at the ranch are conservatively 45 plus.

Elle 37:37

I agree. I would agree with that. So I would say don't let age hold you back. If this is something you've been talking about for 10 years, now is the time to do it. Yep.

Tramp 37:47

No time like the present.

Elle 37:48

Absolutely. Don't hold back. You might make some amazing friends. Yep.

Jay 37:52

There you go. Really guys? 80% of the lifestyle is about the people.

Elle 37:56

Yeah.

Jay 37:57

The sex is a bonus. Yeah. And if it's great sex, that's to be cherished, but it's about the people and the friendships and the relationships.

Elle 38:05

Agreed. Good question.

Tramp 38:08

I love it.

Elle 38:08

Thank you Rs.

Tramp 38:10

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Elle 39:18

That, and if you let us know what you think of the podcast.

Tramp 39:21

Ooh, that's true.

Jay 39:22

And tell us where you're from, which is one of our favorite things.

Elle 39:26

Yes, for sure. Although we can see it's cool. Okay until next time, I'm Al

Jay 39:33

And I'm the Tramp. And I'm Jay.

Elle 39:35

Be sexy,

Jay 39:36

be confident, and be unapologetic.