Who Owns You: The State, The Family, Or Your Trust

What if the “law” you feel crushed by is mostly contract—and you’ve been signing into it with your words, your paperwork, and your presence? We sit down with Don Kilam to pull apart the threads of child support, court process, and identity, and we follow the paper trail to where power really lives: status, trusts, and the private side of life.

We start with a hard question: if there’s no injured party, is it a crime—or is it commerce? From there, Don lays out how Title IV, Social Security, and public trust mechanisms shape how child support is enforced. He explains why public vs private isn’t a slogan; it’s a structural decision. Private families operate through trusts, foundations, and contracts they author. Public roles rely on statutes and policies designed for the general welfare. We explore making your name a business, using holding companies, and drafting operating agreements that function like constitutions for your entities.

The conversation gets tactical. Affidavits, not emotions, move records. Unrebutted statements can become facts. Certified mail matters. Ask for delegation of authority. Keep everything as exhibits. We interrogate jurisdiction signals like flags and titles, discuss how labels can trap you into statuses you didn’t intend, and walk through strategies that have led to case dismissals, reduced exposure, and better protection of income and assets. Don also shares why real wealth is time, health, and people—and why cash, silver, and trustees still matter when systems stall.

If you’ve felt the system is a costume party you never meant to attend, this is your invitation to change clothes. Learn how to author your contracts, correct your status, and protect your family with practical tools and a clearer map of public vs private. If this episode challenges you or opens a new lane of thinking, subscribe, share it with someone who needs it, and drop a review with the topic you want us to unpack next.

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Transcript

Opening Sparks: Victimless Crimes Debate

SPEAKER_00 0:05

Because if it harms them, it's not a real crime. You have the right to face your accuser, correct? Right. So if there's not a victim on a case, it's not a real crime. So child support is not a real crime. The witness against you is literally the attorney. And during Trinsey versus Pegliaro, and a plaintiff for a witness cannot enter evidence. He's they're either an attorney or a witness.

SPEAKER_02 0:24

Right. And see the thing is also with um with you saying that child support also the complaint, there's no injured party.

Meet Don Kalam: Music To Author

SPEAKER_00 0:32

Well the child is the injured party. They say but they can't prove what's the word, man?

SPEAKER_02 0:47

We at Hit House Chicago, man, 773 DBTV, and today we got a really dope interview. Honestly, this is gonna be an interview I'm probably gonna remember for the rest of my life. For the sole reason of the way that I got in tune with you was just crazy. I can't say it was a coincidence, bro. It's like it has to be God. But for the people that don't know who Don Kalam is, can you please let the people know who you are?

SPEAKER_00 1:11

Well, I got in the game through music, first of all. A lot of people don't know that, but my best works are books. Best selling author. I've written over a hundred books. And shit, I've just been I've been in the game now, just yeah, making a major statement, just teaching everybody that the name is the business. Yeah. Jay-Z said, I'm not a business man, I'm a business. Right, right. But Chicago to me is Mecca. Okay. So Michael Jordan. Why do you say that? Well, I'm I I come into the Moors. I don't want to get too religious, but I don't know if you're familiar with Moors. Yeah. So that's how I learned about nationality. Um, I was fighting a federal case, counterfeiting money when I was younger, and um I became a Moore and I got myself out of the situation.

Homeless In Philly To Hustling Knowledge

SPEAKER_02 1:53

Yeah. Before we dive into the actually like what you've done, though, I can't I kind of want the people to get to know who you were before you got there. Because when I when I did a little research on you, I seen, I was like, man, you posted a picture, you were homeless, bro. Oh, yeah. I can relate to that. And I'm sure a lot of people that are watching can relate to that. You know, so can we touch a little bit on who you were before all of the knowledge and education?

SPEAKER_00 2:18

I got you. Um, so the reason why I even recorded it because I'm a Virgo, I don't know if you're into that stuff, but I'm I got I'm very big on pride. I do sales, we're big on pride, being prideful. And and I did not feel proud of myself as as a man, being homeless under a bridge. Like I got four children at this time, and I'm homeless. And what year was this? Um, this was 2000 and I want to say 17. Wow. Yeah, so I'm in Philadelphia. I lost a job because I stood up telling the truth. They were doing some illegal shit. So I asked them about it, found out they was mob related. I was door-to-door sales doing some stuff. I tried to get another job. I didn't know they were business partners, and I and I ran my mouth and was like, hey, this is what they're doing. Give me out the situation.

SPEAKER_01 3:07

This is pandemic going on.

Law Journey And Early Child Support Wins

SPEAKER_00 3:10

Yes, they're epidemic going on, but go ahead. I didn't know they were business partners. Oh they were like, pack your shit, pack your shit. And they and I was in I was in Philadelphia for two days, man, under a bridge, big ass rat. Wow, everything dug in, man. That shit was horrible. I was going to uh McDonald's to charge my phone up. Where was your family at this time? Um they're back home, but they wasn't fucking me. They thought it was crazy because I'm spitting the knowledge on spit now. Yeah, you're the black shit. Yeah, I'm I'm spitting the knowledge on spit now, but I didn't have shit, so ain't nobody gonna listen.

SPEAKER_02 3:38

Of course, of course. Yeah, so that I feel like I could relate to that shit because I know when I'm diving into my child support journey and I'm telling people like, no, you guys gotta really look at your laws and the constitution. Like, there's a lot of stuff in there that they're doing is extrinsic fraud. And and people are looking at me like if I'm talking Chinese, bro.

SPEAKER_00 3:56

Like so before I even knew what I knew now, I was already one in court. I've been I've been doing law things. Like I have a law degree now. Well, um, yeah, yeah, have a law degree. Yeah. Absolutely. Um, but in and out of prison, I've always been like that jailhouse lawyer. But I got myself out of child support, and then one child support case was paying a dollar a month. So all my first wins was with child support.

SPEAKER_03 4:21

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

I paid her for uh two years. Babe, mom ain't fucking me since. Paid her up two years.

SPEAKER_02 4:28

Okay, but okay, but explain though, how though? That's crazy, bro.

Nationality, Moors, And Legal Identity

SPEAKER_00 4:32

Read the law, but no, just understand the people don't understand. But I'm gonna take it even deeper to you, but I understand now before I talk about that. Yeah, but here's the thing a parent is a parent who rents. Right. You're renting your kid. Child is property of a corporation. Yeah. So when you get a birth certificate, that's making it's the law. I was just talking about it today. U.S. U.S. citizen means United States business. So anytime you say you're a citizen, that makes you property of the United States government.

SPEAKER_02 5:00

Wow, but okay, but right. Okay, but if you don't say United States citizen, uh like in my paperwork, I put state citizen of Illinois on the United States.

SPEAKER_00 5:07

I wouldn't even put citizen. How about you just put you're Illinoisian?

SPEAKER_02 5:11

Yeah, Illinoisian is.

SPEAKER_00 5:12

Illinoisian, that's it. Because I understand when you're a national, that means you gave an oath of allegiance to the to your country or your state. Your state is your country. America is a continent. The United States is a corporation. Right. So business. Yeah, yeah. So when you when you when you're there's only one race, that's a human race. So the importance is nationality here. National is the order at the end of any day. So you can Texans come from Texas. When you look up Hawaii, it used to be a kingdom. They're Hawaiians. Right. Alaskans or from Alaska. That's anywhere. Chinese come from China. So we was just talking with somebody on the way here. My driver is from Morocco. You think he told me he was African? Because Morocco's in Africa, right? No, yeah. So Africa is a continent. Right. I don't know. Any tribe, ain't nobody from Kenya said. I'm African. Wow. You dig what I'm saying? So it's just the mis, it's how they program you in a public education. We got informed families, we got uninformed families. And um I came across the Moors and just started getting enlightened. Got around the real ones.

Social Security, Title IV, And Trusts

SPEAKER_02 6:13

So before we dive into how you beat it and all of that, I kind of want to um take a couple steps back because one of the things that I know is that like um where did where did the child support start? It did it start in the Great Depression. Is that what it was? Well, yeah, it started in that era.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

Because it's Title IVA and then there's Title IV. So child support is fried. That's my homies. Shout out to Lionel. Um he's on my new show too coming out, but uh he he's more in depth with that. But yeah, Title IV is what they had you under, right? Right. With child support. So yeah, it comes under the Social Security Act. Now I'm familiar with the Social Security Act because that's when they started um issuing Social Security numbers. So that's a public trust. So child support is under the Social Security Act. If you heard of Amish people, I mean I heard of them, but I don't know. You think Jebba Dai is paying child support?

SPEAKER_02 7:05

So how does that work though?

SPEAKER_00 7:07

Because he doesn't use a social security number. That's a public trust number. So you don't have to use your social security number, but they make it seem like you have to. Who makes it seem like that?

SPEAKER_02 7:15

Depends on who you're the best buyer, you go to uh get a car or they they want your social.

SPEAKER_00 7:20

So rich, so that's the importance of they do the miss misdoctrination about credit profile numbers and things like that. But I like to work under the business. Everything's a business, and we use EIN numbers with no social security number attached.

SPEAKER_03 7:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:33

You can't get an EIN number with no social security number attached. You either gotta fax it in or call it in. And then we got registered agents who can get them for you as well without attaching your social.

Public vs Private: Family Law And Power

SPEAKER_02 7:43

And you help people with that as well? Yes. Okay, dope. So one of the things that um that I wanted to touch on was that I feel like it back in the day, it was important to raise your kids, informing them how to um go against the government, not in court, you know, learn the law. But now they they took our kids and they put them in CPS and they kind of washed everything down. And now even our history is wrong. Is that is that do you agree with that?

SPEAKER_00 8:10

Or um, I agree with that. Because you gotta understand when you hear the word public, when you hear public defender, that's a government issue defender, right? Right.

SPEAKER_02 8:19

When you hear public houses, right, you don't want to.

SPEAKER_00 8:21

So there's a public sector and there's a private sector. You can Google these things. Private sector is the part of the economy that the government does not control. Private families create a United States Constitution, correct? Right. So when you Google, let me just show you a Google.

SPEAKER_02 8:34

That's insane. Look, I never even you don't you wouldn't think to put public, you know what I'm saying? Y'all gotta, man, he's dropping some gems.

SPEAKER_00 8:44

So that's why they got private school and they got public school. Okay. So ask Google, is family law private law, or what's it say? Is family law private law? Yes. So is the Amish a family? Yeah. Okay, the Mormons are a family, yeah. That's why they don't go to jail, they're under family law. So you what family are you under?

SPEAKER_02 9:02

Okay, so you so your last name is is that the business? Or like how does that work?

SPEAKER_00 9:06

So you can make the last name the business, like the Trumps. Right. You know, that's a business. That's what I said. Michael Jordan is a business. Right. Shout out to my people because I'm connected to R. Kelly and them too. Like, I don't know R. Kelly or nothing, but uh he he uh R. Kelly started my homie's uh rap career, Gotti, my homie Gotti, who signed the Cash Money Records. But and I know R. Kelly's ex-wife, uh Drea Kelly. But R. Kelly, that's his name, right? That's a business. So they own his likeness and business. They own everything that's attached to his name, the record label. What? Think about it. Record labels are just like governments. Governments keep what? Records of you, right? Your likeness, your image, the digital footprint, the uh the paper trail of you.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

Wow, you just blew my mind. So so like label, so like labels is operating the what you create, right? Where the government's creating you.

SPEAKER_00 9:57

Because you went to the court, right? Yeah, wasn't on the record?

SPEAKER_02 10:00

No.

SPEAKER_00 10:02

Well, it's supposed to be, but they're not they don't. But but if I go to court and stuff like that, it's on the record. Yeah, you can get docket sheets, right? Not in documents. Well, you should, well, you should. Well, I showed you mine, it's off the record, but they show it was closed.

Making Your Name A Business

SPEAKER_02 10:22

Right, right, right, right, right. So, okay, so but you make how how do you make your name a business? So basically, because you touched on that in this book.

SPEAKER_00 10:31

Yeah, make your name a business. I start off so it's tricky now, yeah. Because there's something called an alter ego doctrine. So there's more to it than just making your name a business. You want to have a holding company or a family trust? So the greats do this, okay? Think about Steph Curry or somebody like this, somebody famous. They got the Steph Curry Foundation. Right. So, how I how I discovered this was actually studying Warren Buffett, uh Susan Thompson Buffett Foundation. That's his wife's name. Even after her death, it's still taking care of their family. Wow. Because it's tax-free. Um, Mark Zuckerberg does this, he has his own family foundation. These are family churches. When you go to the court and you see the judge, ain't they wearing a robe? Yeah. Because he's a high priest.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

What?

SPEAKER_00 11:19

In God We Trust. That's the name of their trust. If I pull out money right now, it's gonna say in God we trust, right? Right. That's the name of their family trust. The In God We. These are promissory notes being drawn off the trust because the Social Security number is a trust.

SPEAKER_03 11:32

Right.

SPEAKER_00 11:33

You can look it up. Who owns the U.S. national debt?

SPEAKER_02 11:35

So basically, so basically, the United States is doing what we can do. Correct.

SPEAKER_00 11:41

Personally, because they're they do it for the public and uninformed families because it's general welfare for the public. If you don't have your family established, then they can't interfere. The government can't interfere with family law and they can't interfere with private contracts.

SPEAKER_02 11:53

Right. Then you can't get government assistance if you're on those private. Correct.

Foundations, Trusts, And “In God We Trust”

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Because government assistance is for poor people. Right. You're you you are not a private family because private families create the government. No, keep going. My bad, my bad. It's so you gotta understand private families create the government. So say you donate to a hospital, your family trust, donates$100 a month to a hospital, your love hospital. They're not gonna treat you as they would a public somebody because you're a private family that invested in this whole in this hospital. So they damn near treat you better than that. It's called private practice versus public practice. Wow. So that's why we deal with private attorneys. Uh-huh. Um, I don't deal with public attorneys at all. I don't deal with codes and statutes. Um, statutes are for the public, for a public entity.

SPEAKER_02 12:35

When you're talking about codes and statutes, are you talking are you referring to like uh 18 USC and Yeah, correct, correct?

SPEAKER_00 12:41

So I do respect the federal codes and statutes, but not like city ordinances, state statutes. Because if it harms them, it's not a real crime. You have the right to face your accuser, correct? Correct. So if there's not a victim on the case, it's not a real crime. Right. So child support is not a real crime. The witness against you is literally the attorney. And during Trinsey versus Pegliaro, and a plaintiff for a witness cannot enter evidence. He's they're either an attorney or a witness.

SPEAKER_02 13:05

Right. And see, the thing is also with with with um with you saying that child support also the complaint, they it's there's no injured party. Well, the child is the injured party. That's the right thing. They say, but they can't prove that you neglecting the child is the reason why they're with the birth certificate, it's property of the government.

Jurisdiction, Flags, And Color Of Law

SPEAKER_00 13:24

The government is the father now. Wow. That's how they look at it. Because that's why they say a per son. That's one son. Yeah. Get it? It's a compound word, per son. You can only be saved through the father. This is why they like to leave fathers off the birth certificate.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

Why? Wait, wait, wait. Because they're they're they're taking that on. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 14:42

Because you gotta understand the constitution is for we the people, right? Yeah, only a person can be tried in court, not a people. Right.

SPEAKER_02 14:49

Because a person, a person's actually a uh entity, yeah. Persona. We think we think person is like uh us, but that's not a person. Oh yeah, correct. It's alter.

SPEAKER_00 14:59

So when you say you're black or white, anyways, you give away that that right of being a uh a people because black or white's an adjective. Your shirt's black, right? Shirts the noun, black's the adjective, it describes the noun. That makes sense. Hold on, break the hold on, slow down. Black shirt. Yeah. So if I said I'm black in court, I'm an adjective.

Child Support Machinery And Private Judges

SPEAKER_02 15:17

Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. I'm not a person. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, because they need nationality.

SPEAKER_00 15:23

It's called color of law. Uh, similar to something that's real that's not. So anytime you see the gold fringe around the flag, that's color law. Okay. That means they can they have statutory jurisdiction if you say you're black or white. You say you're a color.

SPEAKER_02 15:37

So, my bad, bro, because he's dropping a lot. You're good, it's good. It's all good. Hey, y'all, I didn't I forgot to say this is the book that he wrote um that was gifted to me, and how I ended up finding out about him. I didn't even get to say that in the beginning. Um, I look him up on Instagram, seen he was online, told him I'm in Chicago. He said he's in Chicago, and this just happened. That's why I'm never gonna forget this. But, anyways, so um one of the things about child support that that I learned that I thought was crazy as fuck, and people do not understand when I say this is that they're a bunch of people in costumes. Yes. And the reason why I say that is because when you read the contract that child support Title IV has with those, uh with the court, they basically are independent contractors in the same clothing. Can we can we talk a little bit about that?

Tax Status, Bonds, And Court As Commerce

SPEAKER_00 16:25

Because I that's something like I kind of borderline know, but so I how I'll get it like this is the reason why I know a lot of these things is because I'm I hang out with Freemasons. I'm not I'm not a Freemason. Well, I I guess I everybody if you went to a uh a public education, if you have a public education, the first degree, everybody is in introduced to masonry, what they do. So I want you to know if you look up the word diplume, that means to deprive a bird of feathers or to strip you of honors. So that's why they put the square on your head because knowledge is rounded. So now you live in a box. Your phone's a box, your TV's a box, the book's a box, your streets are a box, your zip codes are a box. You live inside the box. They control anything within those borders. These are invisible lines because demographics is the graph of demons, right? Can you prove that Illinois exists? Is there a land D for Illinois? You've never seen one on the record. So it's just you believe it. You make Illinois real when you go in and say you believe in these things and play the game.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

So that's the matrix.

SPEAKER_00 17:24

It is the matrix.

SPEAKER_02 17:25

Yeah. Yeah, that's the matrix.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

So it's always so when you say you make a child support payment, you make one with a check and trace where it goes back. It always goes back to a private judge association, 5081A, Ministry Trust in Puerto Rico. If you trace this back, you'll get rid of all of it because it's a ministry, it's a private brotherhood.

SPEAKER_02 17:45

So basically, we're we're not paying what we think we're paying. No, you're paying a private judge. Heaven damn. Oh, because yeah, uh, Blessing versus Freestone talks about how the child supports in the best interest of the state, not the child. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:59

So you gotta understand that Social Security is a trust. Right. So these are laws of the trust. Because you gotta understand that when you understand trust law, when I'm using the social and the public, I can be taxed at different rates anywhere I go. So the laws change in any jurisdiction I go in. What the fuck? If I'm under a private trust or ministry, it don't work like that. I'm tax exempt. Tax exempt. I'm outside the scopes of any of any.

SPEAKER_02 18:22

This doesn't even have to do with just child support. This has to be a good thing. It's deeper.

SPEAKER_00 18:25

Yeah, this is life, period.

SPEAKER_02 18:27

Yeah. So I don't have to pay taxes no more if I didn't.

SPEAKER_00 18:29

I can't I can't really say that, but become a tax exempt and learn the tax avoidance versus tax evasion. Yeah. What's the last time you pay taxes, bro? I'm not a person that's level.

SPEAKER_02 18:41

I can't I gotta know. The people want to know. You spitting that shit, bro. That's how you pay taxes, bro.

Status Correction And Sui Juris

SPEAKER_00 18:46

We tax exempt. And if we do if we do pay taxes, we get them back. Right, right, right, right, right, right. You know, there's certain forms you can look up. You know, I'm not gonna get too deep, but forum 4852, you can get taxes back. You put the forms on here, bro. Not with that, but that's to get that's for bonds and stuff, because people don't know that every court case is bonded. Okay. So if you fill out GSA bonds on every court case, you can get because people, how is court being paid for? Because you said you understood your charge. So they're charging your social security trust to pay for the courts. So we're implying consent. Yes, you're the beneficiary and they're the trustee, then they switch roles. Yeah. When the when the funds come in, they become the beneficiary and send you to jail, and you become the trustee. You ever you ever heard of trustees in jail? No. Or you ever ever had a prison phone call? Put an offender, put money on an offender's trust account.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_00 19:35

Commissary comes from a trust account. How I started learning about these trust accounts was when the I had to prove that I wasn't making any money when I was in prison. And that's how I got my dollar drop or my child support dropped to a dollar a month. Okay. I proved I wasn't, I had to get um, they needed to see records, so I asked for records and they put offender commissary trust account on the paperwork. That's when I started studying trust.

unknown 19:59

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 20:00

When you look up real law, when you start studying real law, you're under admiralty and maritime. So it's always contracts.

SPEAKER_02 20:06

What's what's maritime law? And because I don't was it I don't know if it was you that I seen post about it, but yeah, I think it was. You had like some AI commercial, and it was still hey, hey, this dude's promo game is crazy. But fucking, you it was like you were talking about how the dealership, uh relationship, uh all the ships, like how does that have to do with uh maritime or or so you guys so I look at it like this you're looking to create your private sea.

SPEAKER_00 20:36

Like my private water. Private you're talking about sea as in water, private sea, say it while together. Private, oh private private sea. Oh so you're looking to create your private too much for me. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:50

We don't hear about this in the hood, bro.

Dates, Romans, And Implied Jurisdiction

SPEAKER_00 20:52

So you know when you look up what the word birth is, birth is is is on a on a ship. So when you when you're birthed in commerce, and then you got a docked ore. The ore is what moves the boat, and then you're on the dock. Oh my god. So what they're after, you're playing with words. So look, her the first contract is the contraction. She broke the water, and now they know they have property. So when you when you get this birth certificate, all a birth certificate is is proof of ownership. A contract between the baby and the the the contract between the mother and the state. The mother is selling this as new property to the state. Oh my god. Now I can prove who your maker is with this birth certificate. So hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me cut you off. I'm gonna try to cut you off. Let me finish this. Go ahead. The Bible says do not make a covenant outside your God. The first thing you do is sell your baby to the state.

SPEAKER_03 21:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:48

Because this is how they prove who the maker is. You can you can use tribal IDs, you can use tribal birth certificates, you can use patterns of nativity, family Bibles. You do not have to use a birth certificate. When you say family Bibles, what do you mean, bro? It's just like a family diary. Right. All a Bible is is history of your lineage. We're not creating a religion. So like the Bible was.

SPEAKER_02 22:08

It is a religion, kind of.

SPEAKER_00 22:09

Yeah, so this is your creation story. How does your family start? Because you think it's just Jesus, because that's the part of the family you choose to be part of. The Christian family. We got the Catholics, we got the Mormons, we got the Amish, we got the Moors, we got the Sunni Muslims. These is all different families. Wow. I did that shit, did I? I did that shit.

Immigration, Treaties, And Nationality Changes

SPEAKER_02 22:29

Oh my God, bro. I don't even know what the fuck to say, bro. No, but that's sent to the reserve. That's what you say. Because they basically gave, they they used in the blueprint on us.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

That's it. But ignorance is no excuse of the law.

SPEAKER_02 22:44

Right, yeah. God damn right. Oh my god. They tell you you swear on the Bible, right? You just cursed your God. You can curse God. But that's how they get you in jurisdiction because that's one of the one of the things they did to me. That was the first thing they did. They never asked me to swear in. As soon as they started reading my paperwork, they tried to get me to swear in, and I was like, I'm not here.

SPEAKER_00 23:03

All right, look, I tell them I'm not even so as you cross the bar, you're in their jurisdiction because you just entered their ship. Right. The laws of the land are with the flag that's being being placed behind them. So that's not the Republic flag. If it has gold fringe on it, that belongs to England. It belongs to the king. Yeah. Because you gotta understand America was founded on not paying taxes, right? So if you're paying taxes, you're not American, you're a U.S. citizen.

SPEAKER_02 23:25

Yeah, but you're also you're a slave. That's what modern-day.

SPEAKER_00 23:27

Americans don't have to pay taxes. That's why Trump said make America great again. But people don't want to claim what they don't want to be American. They don't want to claim there's they're the republic of their state. So we're in Illinois. Illinois is the true republic, but people don't know that.

SPEAKER_02 23:43

But then why do they move the way they do? Because I feel like they use a lot of um there Illinois is like really big on like the statutory laws and like making money off.

Affidavits, Evidence, And Case Law Tactics

SPEAKER_00 23:54

But if you learn about the land trust, you'll learn how to operate correctly on the trust law in Illinois. So you need to learn how to operate in your state. Yes. Illinois is is I I help people do court cases here all the time. Mama said ain't got no victim. I don't help people with, I'm just keeping it 100. Gun charges. I I even helped one dude who beat up his baby mama. I usually don't help people like that, but he had a big bag.

SPEAKER_02 24:15

Yeah, we don't need that. But if it has a victim, it's a real crime. So okay, so I'm glad you touched on that. So gun gun cases, drug cases, drug cases. So it boom.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

I don't really like to help people with conspiracy though.

SPEAKER_02 24:28

We can't do the Rico's, right? We can't do the Rico's. I'd rather not. I'd rather not. You know, my platform, that's the kind of demographic on my platform. Yeah, I'd rather not, though.

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SPEAKER_00 25:45

But if there's no victims on the case, though, it's not a real crime. Right. All crimes are commercial. You can look this up. 72 CFR, 24 CFR 7211. 24 CFR 7211. All crimes are commercial. Wow. Marijuana, all of that. And I've got all the cases in Illinois myself. Where are you? But you weren't born and raised here, though. I was born in Quincy, Illinois, yeah. Quincy, Illinois. They call that Little Chicago.

SPEAKER_03 26:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

Okay. I've never been there. Yeah, shout out to Quincy. How far is it? About three hours, four hours. Yeah. Okay, cool. With with um, because that we got a lot of with the child support, but you also do other things though, like you're also helping people um with credit.

SPEAKER_00 26:27

Yes. Make your name a business. Okay. That's where it starts. Make your name a business and then have a holding company own your name or a record label. A record label can be considered a holding company too because they they hold intellectual property. They're holding on to catalogs, masters. They own your essence, they own trademarks, things like that. That's all a holding company does.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

And how do you how would how would you create that? Like, is that just basically as if I created like Hit House Chicago?

SPEAKER_00 26:58

Yeah, just create it like that. But I like to use register agents. Um, y'all can a good one for free right here is Northwest Register Agent. Just do a simple Google search. Northwest Register Agent, they're legit, they'll open you up. They charge a little bit, then you pay the filing fees, they'll open up the business for you right away. Do it like you want to do it. There's certain ways to open it to stay anonymous or to stay in in the tax avoidance brackets, though. Like having a um, I make my holding company the single member of my operating companies, and then I'm the manager of my holding company. Right. Or I might be a trustee of a family trust.

SPEAKER_02 27:31

And you just put that in your operating agreement.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

Yes. The operating agreement is the law. That's like your constitution of your LLC. Right.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

Yeah. A lot of people don't know that. Man, I was operating my business without an operating rating agreement for a long time.

SPEAKER_00 27:44

How I learned how to get an LLC is because I was on child support. Because you can't charge my LLC. Yeah,$10.99. I'm making them pay my LLC. And that's how I'm getting paid. Yeah.

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SPEAKER_02 27:55

So, okay, um, I'm glad you said that though, because they they still do enforce it. Um, and and and we'll spin off the child support after this. But like one of the things I was trying to figure out is why are they able to violate our rights, bro? Like, like the way they do it, you sit there, I and I can only speak on what I've done. I walk in there, I say case law, I cite it off, I say I'm I'm invoking my 14th Amendment right, Fifth Amendment right. They're not hearing that shit.

SPEAKER_00 28:24

Okay, so first of all, you cross the bars. Like you're their in their jurisdiction. You're dead to them. You're a person, persona. You got you got identity, status, and then standing. If you're identifying with a birth certificate, ID, or social kiddie card, that is their property. That's their legal entity. They own that. Even if you have a regular LLC, stand for that, they own that if it's not set up with a trust correctly. Right. So once they identify who you are, that shows what your standing is, and then that shows what you have rights for. Identity status and then standing. So the status shows who you are, then the standing shows what you have rights for.

SPEAKER_02 29:00

But then how is it that they got things like the supremacy clause, where where, you know, um the Supreme Court is Holler versus Rose. You can use those case laws in any.

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SPEAKER_00 29:10

So when you're going into these courts, do they work for the Supreme Court? Or do they have a different boss? Because the Supreme Court did not create these. So you gotta understand all the. So under um 28 USC 2002, subsection two, what I was talking about earlier, court means any court created by Congress, excluding the United States tax court. So under federal law, these are all just tax courts. So you can't bring up Supreme Court cases and a tax jurisdiction because in America, there's no such thing as taxes. These are United States citizens. They can do what they want because you're part of the United States corporation. It's like you work for them. And when you have a real job, you can get in trouble. You get fines, fees, stuff like that, or you can get fired. You get fired from your job, you go to jail, you still have to work.

SPEAKER_02 29:54

So how would you because Lionel used case law for his hearings, you know, and a lot of other people, you know, uh child support made simple. So they listened to him.

Identity Labels, Rights, And Defamation

SPEAKER_00 30:05

He was right, he was able to get that. So what me is you have to come at this as you cannot identify as that name. I'm here on behalf of the name. Right. Then they can hear you. Impropriate persona. No, I don't use that's still a person, bro. Oh think about what you just said impropria persona. So the keyword is sui juris. Wow, okay. That means you'll write the contract. Okay. Don't use pro se, because that's the pro se cuter, right? Yeah. And improper persona, that means improper person. You're still a person.

SPEAKER_02 30:40

So if you if you in my boat have come at it this way, um, you know, and I'm I'm I'm going at it a bunch, a bunch of different ways with what I've learned, but like, would I be able to change my status?

SPEAKER_00 30:51

Yes, you can always recant everything. It's called nun pro tunk. Right. Now for then. You can there's no such thing as time, it's always now, right? Right. So even when you're using their dates, you're under Roman law. Because how old is the earth? Billions of years old? So who decided 2025? Romans did. Who decided that today is Saturday? That means Saturn Day. The Romans did. Who decided that it's October right now? October means uh uh uh uh uh eight, by the way, right? Ain't this the 10th month? So who decided that? Ain't that the Romans? August is Augustus Caesar, July is Julius Caesar. So I need you to understand this is you put yourself under these jurisdictions.

SPEAKER_03 31:29

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 31:30

So you're saying why they got did you date your paperwork? Why do you think they did that, bro? Why do you think they did that? What you mean? Why are they fucking our heads up, bro?

SPEAKER_01 31:40

They turned in the 10th month to the eighth month. The eighth month to the tenth month, bro.

SPEAKER_00 31:44

You need to go inner because God don't see none of that. God seeing all hey, well I say when you when you light, you shine the light on the bath. I don't play those games, I play my own. Right, right, right, right. Okay, yeah. The almonds ain't counting one through ten. What they counting to? I don't know. I'm not almost money, though.

SPEAKER_02 32:03

They give man money, though. Bro, but okay, so look, man, we we gotta talk about this, bro. Have you seen ice, bro? Why are you laughing? Bro, what kind of question is this? They took the tamale lady right here, bro.

SPEAKER_00 32:20

I'm gone. She's gone. I'm leaving too. They was here. I gotta go. No, okay, so but we gotta talk about fireworks.

SPEAKER_02 32:27

So, so for real, bro. What no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 32:30

What do they have rights, bro? Um shit, they're doing it. They better get the status corrected. That's all I'm gonna say. Bro, so this is the ID I use right here. So I just want you to know I am foreign. I use a foreign ID. You better go play. No, bro. That looks like a big loving ID, bro.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

No, no, that's palal. That's real. Yeah, that's real. I'm not gonna put it on the camera. That's real, bro. Bro, this is got the grill on ID, don't you? You got one.

SPEAKER_00 33:00

I teach my students how to do this shit. Yeah.

Music Industry Paths And Paperwork Power

SPEAKER_02 33:02

And I use the international driver's license. That's dope. Yeah, so I don't want to I don't want to put too much on the platform. Y'all gotta be educated people. No, no, no, because they gotta pay for this shit, bro. I feel y'all feel free. Bro, you just told me you was a business. So look, you know, it's all love. But but with ice though, bro, are they violating any rights? Because do they even have rights if they if they're illegal?

SPEAKER_00 33:25

So if you're over here, you need to, there's different ways. We were just talking with some foreigners today. So there's different ways. Get a business, get a uh, you can get a work visa, you can get a student visa. Um, but me, there's like I said, get a Palau ID. There's there's nothing stopping anybody from getting Palau ID. And American uh has a treaty where they have to protect Palaulians. I don't know if you've seen that. Wait, what does that mean though? You can become become you can change your nationality at any given second. It's against the law to not allow somebody to change their nationality.

SPEAKER_02 33:59

I don't have to be Puerto Rican.

SPEAKER_00 34:01

No, Puerto Rican is not even a real name. I ain't gonna try to get too deep. Damn, bro. I'm not trying to get I ain't trying to get too deep, Puerto Rico. That's called Rich Port. Puerto Rican means rich port, correct? Does that mean you got T I know or something menu or something? It means something deeper. Yeah, come on, man, man. Taca e I'm gonna hang out with you, too. I hang out with everybody.

SPEAKER_02 34:24

I change okay, so boom. I crossed the border, I'm here. I could change my nationality.

Debt, Property, And Land Control

SPEAKER_00 34:29

You said you crossed the border. What border? I'm not me. If you're a statement, there's no borders. The Amish can go across any borders with no ID. No, they don't see borders. That's not part of their bylaws.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

It doesn't even exist.

SPEAKER_00 34:41

It does not exist.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

So they can walk to Africa, go to Cuba, come to the.

SPEAKER_00 34:44

Whoever the head nigga in charge is, you just have to sit down and have agreements with them. Wow. You fill out certain tax forms. Everything is taxes. Everything is taxes.

SPEAKER_02 34:53

So when you go to that, when you go to cross the border, there's there's there's patrol and all that shit. How do you get past it? You show them your taxes.

SPEAKER_00 34:59

Change your race to human. That's what you need to do. Quit thinking you're a color. Wow. Ain't we all humans? Right. There's one race, right? Unless you, if you don't have an earth certificate, you're from somewhere else. You got one. Earth? Earth certificate? I don't know. I don't know what you're making shit up yet. I don't know what's real anymore. I made that up.

SPEAKER_02 35:16

I don't even know it's real anymore, bro. He's fucking my.

SPEAKER_00 35:19

No, I use baptismal certificates. Baptismal certificates work as I didn't.

SPEAKER_02 35:22

What the fuck is that? I've never had a baptized?

SPEAKER_00 35:24

Yeah. A church can give you a baptismal certificate, and you can use this to get a passport. You can use this as a to to do a lot of shit in commerce.

SPEAKER_02 35:32

That's dope.

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SPEAKER_00 35:33

But it's it's the human declaration rights. The right to a nationality and the right to change it. The right to a nationality is an essential human right, meaning everyone is entitled to have one, and no one should be arbitrarily deprived of it. So when you say you're black, you do not have a nationality. When you say you're white, you do not have a nationality. Puerto Rican is a nationality, but I would go back further than that because that is our term over here in America. Yeah. Don't y'all speak Spanish? Yeah. And you still say Puerto Rican?

SPEAKER_02 36:02

I mean, what I don't understand.

SPEAKER_00 36:04

I'm just ain't that American term?

SPEAKER_02 36:06

Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. You dig what I'm saying? Even the Puerto Ricans do that. They that's just what we know. Yeah, I know. I fuck with Puerto Rico. That's crazy. What's your nationality, by the way?

SPEAKER_00 36:14

Well, I say I'm I say I say I'm Moroccan or I'm Choctaw. You know, we come from tribes too. If you go to the Bible, you're tribal people. So you can go all the way back. But on the public record, um, when I I'm a Kalamanite. I come from my last name. I got the book of Kalam.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

Okay, I see what you're saying. Everything is fiction.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

Yes, there is a right to change your nationality as recognized by international human human law. Specifically in Article 15 of Universal Declaration of Human Rights, this right includes the ability not to be arbitrarily arbitrarily deprived of your current nationality or denied the right to change it. Wow. It's against the law. So would you do that through the state? Yes, you just do it. All it is is paperwork because the government is not going to give you a form here. What's your nationality? Right. They're going to say what's your race. So they know you don't know the game. They know you're ignorant.

SPEAKER_02 37:06

Yeah, that's what they bank on.

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SPEAKER_00 37:07

Yes, that's what they bank on. Yeah. On how you maneuver. So, as in the private, we know we can only control what we create. So if we're filling out government forms, we're playing their game. We can give them a similar form of all their answers, but it's our form.

SPEAKER_02 37:22

Right. They play by our take this. Yeah. Yeah, dang. Yeah. That's real.

SPEAKER_00 37:26

Because anything that you're doing, anyways, all the definitions, think about Daniel Webster. Use the Daniel Webster definition. Is that the same definition in court? No. So when you're using a Daniel Webster dictionary, you just use the copyrighted definition. That's against the law as well. That's copyright infringement. Every family should have their own definition of words. That way, I don't understand and you don't understand. So boom. We can't even move forward. You can't even move forward. Yeah.

unknown 37:52

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 37:53

So to keep it on child support, though. That changed my life, bro. Yeah, to keep it on child support, you need they can only child support is only for the parent. It's not for the mother, it's not for the father. These are key words. These are called franchise words. Yeah. And then you always say that's your son or that's your daughter, never the child or the children.

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SPEAKER_02 38:12

Or offspring. That was what I was saying. You can say offspring.

SPEAKER_00 38:16

And then make your name a business. And then because you've heard of leans, right? Right. I would make my name lean their name on paper.

SPEAKER_02 38:24

I think I think I seen you say something about like um make your name or make your name the business and put them as a DBA.

SPEAKER_00 38:32

Yeah. So so because the government can't interfere with a private contract. If you know the names of businesses and you can prove that these businesses are within your reach, you can create documents that are not illegal. You cannot interfere with my private business now. Right. Yeah. Here's my proof. Where's yours? And then, secondly, at the end of the day, keep asking for their license to practice law. There's no such thing. They have bar cards. Right. Where's your license to practice law? Put your delegation of authority before me. This is a court of record. Prove to me that you're a lawful judge. Prove to me that you're a lawful attorney. Prove to me you're a lawful prosecuting attorney. I can't just take your word for it. They will laugh. I got paperwork, they're laughing. How dare he question me to put my uh I'm the uh district attorney in a federal this shit had me cracking up and he got off the case and had the assistant get on the case and filed the next one. Yeah. Yep. I'll show I'll show you, man. I got a student that I'm working on, man. It was it was deep. The uh, and I'm not even gonna lie, I use Chat GPT for some of this to put it together, and and the affidavits was so cold. We always file everything as an affidavit, too. Yeah. And then we label things as exhibits because if they don't put it on the record, that's tampered with evidence.

SPEAKER_02 39:51

Yeah. One of the things I want to say while you go ahead and um look that up is when you file affidavits, because somebody uh somebody that was helping me didn't tell me all the way how to handle this. When you file affidavits, you do not need to file motions, you don't need to file judicial notes. That's it. They are they are by law. You can you can take a piece of paper off this book and write with crayon on there and sign it and put it under the penalty of perjury, and they're supposed to take that shit. And if they don't take it, that's a violation of the law, right? That's it. Right. No, because I went in there and when I first filed my affidavits, they were like, you gotta put some motions with this. And they kind of fucked me up.

SPEAKER_00 40:27

Yeah, I sing case law, they take it. But everything is fraud, man, out the gate. Right, nonetheless, it's fraud. Yeah, everything is fraud. But uh, one of my my one of my favorite things to you is tringy versus Pegliaro. Because they they was roll rolling one of my students, man.

SPEAKER_02 40:44

You looking it up right now?

SPEAKER_00 40:46

I got his uh these.

SPEAKER_02 40:47

Oh, he's hope.

SPEAKER_00 40:48

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

Hey my boy, how how much uh how much uh time we had at the bottom does it say at the bottom where you hit the record and it says uh 38? Oh yeah, with money, man. Oh yeah, we good, we good. Keep going.

SPEAKER_00 41:04

Oh, he's showing me their reply. I'm looking at their replies. But yeah, man, uh every time he sends me something, this is I don't help everybody with court cases. I only help a select few. But look, Trinsey versus Palearo. An attorney for the plaintiff cannot admit evidence into the court, is either an attorney or a witness. The rooker feldman doctrine. Right. This one right here, they cannot use um a state court judgment in federal court. This is what they were trying to say. They pulled this up. So I help people, and the reason why they try to, I love that they try to get me with this because I I helped a lot of people get off gun cases with the rooker feldman doctrine. A state court judgment cannot be used in federal court. So you when when gun cases go federal, it's from a state court judgment. Does that make sense? Well, okay.

SPEAKER_02 41:55

That makes sense. What the fuck? But they do it anyway just because they're banking on you not knowing not knowing.

SPEAKER_00 42:00

Because your attorney, now understand. They play by the state. Attorney means the turnover renter goods. They're not lawyers, they're attorneys. There's a difference. These are attorneys. What's the difference? Explain that. Attorney is the turnover, they're a spy for the court. Okay. A lawyer is a layman that puts things in layman's terms and simplifies it for you. Either way, you don't want either of them. A lawyer is cool. A lawyer is cool. Yeah, not all lawyers have bar cards. We got and then there is private attorneys. Um and then I just put other case law, mothers against drunk driving versus the state of Oregon. The court stated that even if a state official is acting in accordance with state laws, they can still be held accountable for violating constitutional protections. Wow. Can't versus Harris. A municipality can be liable if its policies or customs causes a deprivation of constitutional rights.

SPEAKER_02 42:53

So you have real success getting people off gun cases. Yes. That is insane. Yes, bro. You know how many people are gonna follow you from this platform? It's insane. Oh, all right. So with how long do you think it would take, though? Like, let's say they start, um, they they join your school. You know, we've seen uh your school you got a school now. Correct. I seen you got about 400 some members and paying, I think it was like$50 or something a month. You mean I did the math. I was like, man, then I got other courses in there that you have to pay for. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a little good. I still books, I do a lot of things. You know what I'm saying? I agree, thank you. Yeah, no, for sure. But with um with the cases, though, how long does it take for them to um just get that out of their life?

SPEAKER_00 43:39

It it just depends. It just depends. So, like a gun case I did in California. I did the paperwork for her, she did it for her son. He didn't want to do it, but she took it to the court. The paperwork put it up there. They just on they dismissed it the same day. Dismissed the same day. Uh Los Angeles, California. Wow, congrats on that. That's dope. Yeah. I did uh some here, they act like they was gonna go to trial before trial date. They dismissed the case in Chicago.

SPEAKER_02 44:06

Did they did they file anything else previously to that? Or did you just No, just write then and there.

SPEAKER_00 44:11

Yeah, yeah, and then ignore everything. If they send you something in the mail, it's not certified mail, black your name out. Because if your name's a business, they can't pin it in public permanent uh public printing, anyways. They can't put it in public publication or put it in publications. Right. That makes sense if you're on your name or trademark your name.

SPEAKER_02 44:27

I kind of want to explain that because I I read that in the in the book, and I kind of want to dumb it down a little bit, and maybe if I miss something, uh tell me. But basically, you take in the name on how they use it in all caps, the straw man. Correct. And you're you're now you're owning it. Now you so now that's controller, right? Now that I'm taking ownership of that of that straw man name, now you can't say that I I owe anything.

SPEAKER_00 44:50

Because listen, in America, everything they're doing is tricking you to give your rights over to a corporation. Right. Yeah. That's it. The corporation can now act on your behalf. So a person can never come liable because it's all about not having liability.

SPEAKER_02 45:05

You don't, right. You don't want anyone.

SPEAKER_00 45:07

So no, ain't no judge, nobody's gonna come and sign an affidavit against you. Because in commerce, it takes an affidavit to start anything. If you get a court case, somebody had to file an affidavit. Okay. Right. To open up the case. Correct. Yeah. So, so nobody in a higher ranking position is gonna fill out an affidavit against you. They send billing, billing statements. Right.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

I was about to say, child support, it wouldn't even know for real. It was right.

SPEAKER_00 45:34

You have to rebuke the statements, though.

SPEAKER_02 45:36

Wow. Yes. Wow, that's how you do it.

SPEAKER_00 45:37

If a uh uh it's called uh unrebuted stands, unrebuted affidavit stands as truth in commerce or stands as judgment in court.

SPEAKER_02 45:44

Until until challenge.

SPEAKER_00 45:46

Until challenge, yes. Right.

SPEAKER_02 45:47

So so the basically, that's this is honestly probably one of the best ways that I've heard it because you're getting it like just right in the file the taxes and the GSA bonds. Wow.

SPEAKER_00 45:59

Wait, oh uh as well as the Yes, yeah, I go along with the case. I always say I'm a foreigner, I'll fill out something, I change the tax status because the court is a tax, it's a tax court. These are all contracts. That's why I asked you, do you understand? Because it's a contract, it means you stand under. You have to make a plea bargain. Plea means the beg. Please, a bargain, right? A clerk. That clerk handles money. When you look up the word bank, it means a seat on which a judge says. That's the real definition of bank.

SPEAKER_02 46:27

You are you using banks? Because I've seen you hold a lot of money in that safety deposit box. Uh I use trustees.

SPEAKER_00 46:33

I use trustees. Trustees, okay. If that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 46:36

With trustees, is that the same thing, but just different.

SPEAKER_00 46:38

Yeah, yeah. I got people that move money for me. Put it like that. Okay. Look at the definition of the term bank. So a bank is a court. A bank is a court. That's an official bank. That's why every court has a clerk. What do clerks do? Handle the money. Yes. Every clerk is a CPA, certified public accountant. You're moving securities on your name. What they're doing is securitizing your agreements. It's the same thing that they do with mortgage-backed securities, asset backed securities. It's the same thing. You become a private investor and you never know it. You're making a government, you have heard of government contracts? Uh-huh. That's what you're doing when you go to court. They're just creating a government contract.

SPEAKER_02 47:18

So, do you advise people to pay for appearances?

SPEAKER_00 47:21

I don't go to, I do know you don't need to make appearances. Appearances are the paperwork. Once you get your paperwork established, you do not have to go because it's an invitation. Once you get in there, you're under their jurisdiction. Yeah. You gotta understand they use the postal system because it's backed by gold still, that's real money, to give you the invitation. But I'm telling you, if there's not a certified mail, you don't know who it's coming from, you don't know who sent that letter. So you're just going on blind faith.

SPEAKER_03 47:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:44

If that makes sense.

SPEAKER_02 47:45

So with the gold, like, do you feel and shout out my boy uh crypto bully? Um, do you feel like it's necessary to have like gold back dollar uh dollars for those?

SPEAKER_00 47:56

Yeah, you need gold and silver, correct. Gold and silver.

SPEAKER_02 47:59

How do you get they got silver back too?

SPEAKER_00 48:01

No, I buy silver. Actually, real silver, yeah, coins. I I I'll print my name on the shit. So you know it's mine, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 48:09

Wait, wait, wait. Okay, but explain that though. So, like you feel like we need to have gold dollar bills and just coins, pennies, uh uh nickels, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:17

That's real money. And you see, gold, the price of gold is 4,000 an ounce now, ain't it? It's up there.

SPEAKER_02 48:22

So the so the dollar, like the hundred dollar bills, we don't need those.

SPEAKER_00 48:25

No, not really. Fiat currency. Now you invested in something, it's still good to have money. Right, of course. I'm saying no, I don't care what anybody says. Uh I still use cash. Cash is king. Yeah um there was a hurricane in in in in uh I think it was last year in Georgia, and the power went out. You can only get gas if you had cash on you. When nobody can you can gas up.

SPEAKER_02 48:47

Yeah, because uh post Malone was saying that uh something about when when when the world figures out what the government's gonna do, basically they're gonna shut down all the banks. That's what Post Malone said. He said they're gonna shut down all the banks, it's gonna go down, nobody's gonna be able to access all the money, and and and you better have some cash on you.

SPEAKER_00 49:04

I believe it. Yeah. So I'm still with the cash, but use it to serve you. That's all I use it for. You know, use it to serve you. Right. I'm a cash, I know how to get cash. It's easy for me. I'm cash getting my money.

SPEAKER_02 49:16

So what is what does wealth look like to you? Because I see that uh, you know, you went you went from homeless and now you're owning land. So like how like what what's wealth mean to you though?

SPEAKER_00 49:25

Um, so at first I you would think that would be wealth, but to me, at this point in time is time is wealth, health is wealth, and then having the right people around you. Yeah, you know, I've been through um, this sounds crazy. I I don't I don't like to talk about it, but I've been through a lot of women since being Don Kalam. So just uh the right woman would be wealth, wealth to me, or the right women. But having the right team and the right people in your life, that's to me, that's wealth. Doesn't matter what you have because I feel like if you're not a if it's not adding to your life, it's taken away. So I I like to donate or invest and spend my prosperity or or fiat currency on people that mean the most to me, you know what I mean? That help me in life.

SPEAKER_03 50:09

So that's real.

SPEAKER_00 50:10

The children and the baby mama gotta help them. That's a that's a mandatory. But everybody else, like I like having the right people on my life.

SPEAKER_02 50:18

So even though you got off child support, you still support those kids? Oh shit, lucky I still give her money.

SPEAKER_00 50:24

I still let you do. They told you$339 a month, girl. I give you$500 a week, goddamn, whatever it may be. Uh-huh. But we back on good terms. I I had to actually do some private stuff to get to I took my children on the court. And so when they try to identify my kids with birth services and stuff, I sent them something called a baby land deed. When they try to figure out how much money I make, I did an affidavit of uh and told them I'm gonna get fringe benefits and stipends from my unincorporated association, a private trust. I make a dollar a year. And you can prove it. You don't have to prove it. Oh, yeah, right, right, right, right. You just give them an affidavit, it's signed, stamped up. I got two witnesses. Wow. Who can go against that? Right. In court, right? Yeah, nobody. You can't, everything in court is voluntary information, everything in the public system is voluntary information. Right. You don't have to tell them anything. You can't force me to tell you how much money I make. The Fifth Amendment, right? Yeah, it's that simple.

SPEAKER_03 51:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:20

And when you're under under unaccorporated associations, you're under a church, that's between you and God.

SPEAKER_02 51:30

That's dope. Yeah, yeah. So what where like outside of like all of the education that you put in out, I kind of want the people to know what was the case that that you were fighting that they that made you learn all this shit.

SPEAKER_00 51:43

Oh, so when I was 17,$56 worth of damage to a car happened. And they charged me with a felony. Yeah, and they and and I was born white on the record. My birth certificate says white. They switched it to black. They gave me seven years. You are kind of black, bro. My dad, when I looked at my body, my dad is my dad is considered black. But on my birth certificate, it says white. They gave you the empaths, bro. Right. So they labeled me black, and I didn't understand that black is three-fifths of a person in law. What does that mean? Under the Constitution, three-fifths of a person. It takes three people to make one person as a black. You have no right to be in black in law. You are civilly dead. Civil leader mortouse is what it's called. You're civil and legally dead if you claim you're black in law. Law, black scientifically, means death.

SPEAKER_02 52:29

Bro, this is gonna go viral. That's crazy. Yeah. So, so when they put black on these arrest records and all that shit, it's like you got it, you ain't, you ain't shit.

SPEAKER_00 52:39

So, with the child support, like I just told my brother, he's suing them for defamation of character. Because not only did they call him black, they labeled him a non-custodial parent. NCP. And that and that means that you're guilty of something.

SPEAKER_02 52:50

Yeah, and an obligory, they call you all type of shit.

SPEAKER_00 52:52

So, so we're doing def we're doing defamation of character um and suing them with with along with making him pay the child support.

SPEAKER_02 53:00

Wow, man. That's insane. I'm I'm definitely gonna lock in with you on that, bro. Because it's like, because it's like, and I say this all the time, man, and that's how I know like God really be looking out for me, bro. Because it's like, you ever notice that once you feel like you know everything, you find somebody that's just you don't know shit. That's how I be like, bro, you don't know shit. I'll be walking around this motherfucker, like, man, I be trying to help somebody out. Woo woo. Like, and I and I do, you know, because I do know some, you know, that got me where I got, but I'm like, damn, I'm sitting next to you, I don't know shit, bro.

SPEAKER_00 53:31

It's all good, bro. I gotta join the school, bro. Join it, man. Don school.com slash Don Columbus. S-K-O-O-L dot com slash do n K-I-L-A-L.

SPEAKER_02 53:41

Yeah, and and and and the rap.

SPEAKER_00 53:43

So what are you doing with the rap though? Well, shit, I've been in a music game. Like I was just talking to my brother here when I was homeless. I'm in Atlanta. There's other homeless people sleeping in the studios and shit. Okay. I'm homeless. I'm in a studio session, they're making the uh the the beat for the uh called the box by Roddy Rich.

SPEAKER_03 54:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:02

Then he did something for Kaye West and Gucci, man. I'm like, I'm homeless and then seeing all this stuff, but that just gave me, keep dreaming. You know what I mean? Stop, don't stop. Yeah, because you're around it. You're homeless, and and you ended up in these situations. So the a situation occurred. I'm trying to sell services, but people, I don't have any assets at the time, so people don't want to listen to me.

SPEAKER_03 54:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:24

So, but a situation did happen where he's like a couple months go by, he's like, brother, I need your help. Push comes to show up, I need you. He's he's buying his uh his mother's medicine. He's out of money. And he and he's going through a foreclosure process. I can't say who he is. He's a Grammy Award-winning rapper. Put it like that. How are you not gonna say I can't? I can't, because it's not his closure. I can't put the business up. You don't want people knowing his house to go to foreclosure. Get in the paperwork. He said, just take the mortgage flag off our paperwork. Oh, bro. Got him out of foreclosure. Wow. Got rid of the mortgage, everything. Just like that. Just like that. So what? The house? So that's his shit. It's his shit. Yes. Damn.

SPEAKER_02 55:03

You gotta understand. All debt is prepaid. So they can't take your homes, they can't take your cars. If you do it right.

SPEAKER_00 55:08

If you do it, because you gotta understand. When you get a mortgage, think about it. They're foreclosed on a property, right?

SPEAKER_02 55:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 55:15

What happened to the land? Y'all not even worried about the land no more. They're just worried about the if you own the land, can they foreclose your property? God damn no. Come on now.

SPEAKER_02 55:23

It's that simple. Wow. But hold on, because you can't you he I'll try to take him to the music and he goes, he go back over there.

SPEAKER_01 55:30

Okay, so you learned that with the property.

SPEAKER_02 55:33

You're passionate, bro. You're passionate, bro. And it and and that's how you can. But yeah, I know everybody. So fraud. Kevin, you can tell it's not a fraud.

SPEAKER_00 55:40

You can look at my we can so other people, some people that that might not get upset. You know what I'm saying? I'm tapped in with Cash Money Records with my boy Gotti. Oh, that's what's up. Salute, bro. This is my so they shut down my other page. So everybody didn't hit me up. So Waka Flocka hit me. Remember, I was trying to get Waka's back. Waka Flocka just hit me up. I'm tapped in with everybody. Kevin Gates fucked with me too. I got his number directly.

SPEAKER_02 56:03

Unk don't fuck with Kevin Gates, bro. He called him Kevin Gay.

SPEAKER_00 56:06

I don't know about any of that. I don't get down like that.

SPEAKER_02 56:09

No, that's what he said though. That Ug.

SPEAKER_00 56:11

When you fuck with Waka, that's my guy too. You know what I'm saying? Waka Flocca. I'm tapped in with everybody.

SPEAKER_02 56:17

You gotta tap in with bro. No, you got I want Unk to tap in with you, bro. Yeah, like you, yeah, we gotta set that up. Yeah, I'm with that. I'm with that. You you could shed some light over there.

SPEAKER_00 56:26

I'll be seeing, I'll be seeing, I see what he do. You know, I'm St. Louis is where I first became homeless at, St. Louis. Wow. Dangerous motherfucking city. Well, I was staying in North County, okay, but when some shit went down, me and my baby got into a I went to uh O'Fallon Park, which is West Florence and Pope. The worst, y'all waking me up every fucking hour on the hour, gunshots, motherfuckers getting shot up, motherfuckers getting killed. I'm a light-skinned motherfucker. I'm gonna try to go through this shit.

SPEAKER_02 56:56

They call it Backdoor City.

SPEAKER_00 56:57

Is it really backdoor city? Yes, yes, they and they will fuck your bitch. They're like that. They can't wait to fuck your bitch. Yeah, damn. But I was scared to sell weed out there, but that was my hustle. I saw weed out there. Yeah, okay. And then I started working for this plasma center. I started reading people's charts and the numerology. I do numerology and shit. Yeah, me too. And then and that's when I started getting comfortable just and then started doing the phones.

SPEAKER_02 57:20

Okay. Yeah. That's why you're in astrology too. You in numerically.

SPEAKER_00 57:27

That is Gary, the numbers guy. No, I don't know. I'm I'm a follower of self, anyway.

SPEAKER_02 57:32

No, that's dope, though, but I mean, I'm just saying these are people that talk that are lined with the same thing. That's what's up. That's what's yeah.

SPEAKER_00 57:38

I don't want you to know who I'm Google. So look, I'm not gang affiliated, by the way. Just want y'all know I'm a more thing is a guy. So no, listen, listen, I'm a more. Let me continue. I'm a more all right. We fuck with everybody, right? But I did learn numerology from the GDs. It was an old head from the growth of development. Seven plus four equals eleven. That's God body. That's not only you a god, you create other gods. But one plus one is two and terrible two. So if you take this there, we're gonna but seven is spiritual knowledge, seven is spiritual and four is knowledge, so spiritual knowledge, seven plus four together. That's where I learned numerology from. Bro, the G D's, you know what I'm saying? That's crazy. So this is G D? No, seven four is their numbers. Right, no, I know seven four, but they make it with A, B, C, D, E, F, G. That's seven. Seven four, G D. Growth and development, not gangster disciples either. But a lot of these. Because you gotta understand, they came out of the Moors. Like, you can see me telling you. So the GD started from the Moors? Larry Hoover was a Moore. Jeff Ford was a Moore. You know, I know, uh, I'm gonna show you, just to verify my claims, it might be on my page. But I know Larry Hoover Jr. and them, I done bumped into him. Larry Hoover Jr., that's Fred Hampton Jr. right there. I done sat down with all these guys.

SPEAKER_02 58:50

When you were locked up, that's how you made those connections?

SPEAKER_00 58:52

No, I made that connection here in Chicago at the um with uh DC Young Fire. I actually met Larry Hoover Jr. the day my mom died. That's dope. Crazy shit. Oh, no, not that. But I got when I was locked up, that's when I started fucking with GDs. That's when I learned that there wasn't a I don't want to, I just don't want people in the public to take this shit the wrong way. They are uh it's it's it's a it's a brotherhood. It's not a game. That's not what I seen. You understand?

SPEAKER_02 59:15

What GDs is over here, it's not I don't know what's going on in the streets.

SPEAKER_00 59:19

So when I was locked up, I uh they used to pay me to do type up paperwork and stuff. And I seen a brotherhood. You know what I mean? So that's what I seen, and it's made me read knowledge. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:30

So you're not familiar with like a lot of the GDs like um that were coming up in Chicago, like Abby G Duck and them?

SPEAKER_00 59:36

No. Not at all.

SPEAKER_02 59:37

No. King Yellow. Uh-uh.

unknown 59:40

Uh oh.

SPEAKER_00 59:41

I know the more you don't want to know him. I wouldn't know him. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. But I don't know about the beef shit. I just they talk about it. We don't want to get in the beef. I don't put up with that. Yeah, I don't know them as a gang because you know on TV they try to say the shit together.

SPEAKER_02 59:52

But the thing is that, bro, I'm in the hood with the people that be in the hood, bro, and we don't get taught this, bro.

SPEAKER_00 59:58

Because you need to be around the old heads, the old heads teach this. For real? I was around the old heads that taught me this. This is part of their literature. Wow. Yeah, it's the same way with the Moors. We have a whole literature. Numerology. Who made you? Yes. Who made you? Allah. No fucking way. Who's what's the closest place you can find Allah? In your heart. We were taught this literature. What are slave terms that were given to us over here in America? Negro, color folk, Ethiopian, African, and niggas. You know what I'm saying? That's the slave terms.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:28

Because the government owns that shit. And uh, okay, so we so basically want the people to get out. What where are we at right now? Oh man, we're doing amazing. So we need people to start creating their entity from their names, the own ownership of your name, ownership of your family. Correct. Um, create your uh Bibles, your terms, what you live by, putting putting your things in trust in trust accounts, right? Correct. Man, this is a entitlement nobility. It's gonna take me a long time to do this, bro. How long is it gonna take me to do this?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:06

You sign up today. I mean, I mean, it depends on where you're at. Get around the people. It took me a I made my name a business. I understood it in a matter of uh no time. The home the homie right here, he's beat cases with making his name a business. I don't know how long it took him to understand it, but yeah, he was just watching me, he applied the shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:21

I just don't want the people watching to get unmotivated from all the education.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:24

Oh no, it's a lot, it's a lot that goes behind it. See, I've been doing this for 17 years. Wow. So damn 20 years. But yeah, it's a lot, but start small, just understand, have a business mentality. And when you start learning about business and creating a business, you're gonna do what you have to do to protect that business. Yeah, so you have to understand you are the business. In America, you are the product.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:44

Yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:45

That's as simple as that.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:46

Best thing I can say is fall in love with the journey of doing it. Don't expect to get from A to A to B correctly.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:52

It's not, it's nothing getting fixed. You have to do, you have to put in work. Yeah. And then get around private families and private individuals that build wealth.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:00

Well, man, I think I think I want to close it right there, bro. They got to pay for the rest of the shit. Like, I definitely want you guys to tap in.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:08

Um, go where where what's the school? School.com slash Don Kalam, S-K-O-O-L dot com slash D-O-N-K-K. The Instagram is Don Kalam underscore legacy.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:19

Man, just like that, bro. Don Kalam in the building. Appreciate you stepping on the couch, man. It's official, bro. Peace and love, Chicago.