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The Primal Timeline Episode 7: Man In His 40s Reverses Bleak Gut Disease Diagnosis With Diet, Avoiding Multiple Surgeries

January 10, 2024 Carnivore Soldier
The Primal Timeline Episode 7: Man In His 40s Reverses Bleak Gut Disease Diagnosis With Diet, Avoiding Multiple Surgeries
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The Primal Timeline Episode 7: Man In His 40s Reverses Bleak Gut Disease Diagnosis With Diet, Avoiding Multiple Surgeries
Jan 10, 2024
Carnivore Soldier

Pete was diagnosed with a serious gut disease, complex transfectorial fistula, and was facing a year of 8-10 surgeries to attempt to correct. Turning to a carnivore diet, he fully healed his condition and was able to avoid all surgeries.

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I'm a retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer living the carnivore lifestyle since March 22nd, 2023. I lost 30lbs in the first 90 days, and continued my weight loss beyond that losing another 14lbs in the following 60 days. I have become much healthier, both physically and mentally in the process. If you’re seeking a sustainable and effective weight loss method, the carnivore diet might be the answer you’ve been looking for!

Prepare to be motivated and inspired as I share my success story, offering valuable tips and insights for anyone ready to embark on their own weight loss journey. Don’t miss out on this incredible transformation – hit that play button and let’s dive into the world of carnivore diet weight loss!

DISCLAIMER: I am not a doctor and am not giving medical advice. This is simply a channel about my experience. Please consult your own physician if you have questions or concerns about nutrition, weight loss, or your conditions.

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Pete was diagnosed with a serious gut disease, complex transfectorial fistula, and was facing a year of 8-10 surgeries to attempt to correct. Turning to a carnivore diet, he fully healed his condition and was able to avoid all surgeries.

Strap in for a great story!

Carnivore Diet Planning Guide: https://4343867330708.gumroad.com/l/fqtjv
Website: https://www.carnivoresoldier.com
Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/6762077700490092
Discord Server: https://discord.gg/eqyzCqtwgd

I'm a retired US Army Chief Warrant Officer living the carnivore lifestyle since March 22nd, 2023. I lost 30lbs in the first 90 days, and continued my weight loss beyond that losing another 14lbs in the following 60 days. I have become much healthier, both physically and mentally in the process. If you’re seeking a sustainable and effective weight loss method, the carnivore diet might be the answer you’ve been looking for!

Prepare to be motivated and inspired as I share my success story, offering valuable tips and insights for anyone ready to embark on their own weight loss journey. Don’t miss out on this incredible transformation – hit that play button and let’s dive into the world of carnivore diet weight loss!

DISCLAIMER: I am not a doctor and am not giving medical advice. This is simply a channel about my experience. Please consult your own physician if you have questions or concerns about nutrition, weight loss, or your conditions.

Support the Show.

Larry:

All right. All right. All right. Carnivore soldier coming at you from Austin, Texas today. We got another podcaster. This is the carnivore way podcast where I interview carnivores and carnivore content creators. And talk about how their life's been changed through this diet and this way of eating and just how life is for them. So let's go ahead and bring in my guest. This is Pete from all the way from Brisbane, Australia. Hey, Pete, how's it going, man?

Pete:

Yeah, really well, man.

Larry:

How are you? Thanks for having me. Great, brother. You're from Brisbane. You guys call it Brizzy, right?

Pete:

Yeah, Brisbane, or if you're a real local, you call it Briz Vegas.

Larry:

Where's Vegas? Why is that? do you have casinos? It originated,

Pete:

no, it originated in the 90s when Brisbane was like, the place where nothing happened. So it was quite an ironic

Larry:

statement. Why don't you introduce yourself a little bit? Tell us about yourself. Yeah, sure.

Pete:

Yeah, Pete's from Brisbane carnivore, currently of eight months. I started a YouTube channel on the 1st of January, 2024. So I'm really beginning that journey right now as I try and spread the carnivore message. I have lost 65 pounds since December, 2022 when I started keto, I've cured depression and anxiety and I'm healing a gut issue as well. So my carnivore experience is quite the mixed bag.

Larry:

That's awesome, man. Mine was too. It's the things that I didn't expect outweigh the things that I did expect. I just did it for weight, and when the weight came off, that was amazing. That in itself is great, but The unexpected things like not having allergy pills anymore, not taking allergy pills at all, not eating in the morning, springing up in the morning with tons of energy, not sitting on my couch. My couch is neglected now. And it used to be my primary spot.

Pete:

Me too. I hate the couch. Every evening, I'm like, what can I do? What can I do with myself? I hate watching TV. I know. So I can keep myself much busier

Larry:

these days. Now I'm a hockey fan. So if the Red Wings are playing, I'll go watch a hockey game. But that's, yeah, well, that's different. The live

Pete:

event. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I often say that came for the weight loss, stay for the mental health improvements, et

Larry:

cetera. Netflix binge guy, I'd binge a show. And just sit there for hours and watch shows and eat. Of course I ate. Yeah. Because I was eating that never satiating, always craving food and that's gone too. So

Pete:

yeah. All right. Well, should I also add I guess that ties into the question. You've just thrown it up and you were eating on the couch. I was drinking on the couch quite, quite a lot too. So alcohol was unfortunately a big part of my, my my life up until six months ago. So I'd already started carnivore and was still on the drink. And Carnivores help with that. But in tying to your question we're wide back to December 2022. And after 20 years of yo yo dieting, so I've been yo yo dieting since I was 27. I'm now 48. The first time I lost 30 kilograms, 60, 60 odd pounds. I went on a, this is back, 20 years ago when dietary advice was, here nor there. And I went on a low fat, low carbohydrate diet with, and also cut out a lot of meats, lots of vegetarian dishes, protein powders from the gym, and I lost weight fairly quickly. I worked out pretty hard. But The side effects, and I firmly believe there were side effects to that approach to weight loss where I triggered off 20 years of depression and anxiety that became overwhelming for me and controlled my life for two decades. I'm pretty sure that that was down to losing weight in an unhealthy way, probably stuffing up my metabolic health.

Larry:

I think it's also tied to your blood chemistry because we've been preached at to lower our cholesterol too, right? And that kind of diet does lower your cholesterol. Unfortunately, the low cholesterol correlates to, depression, mental health issues, including schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, suicide and acting violent. And and impulsive. And impulsive gambling. And so there's a lot of other addictions that are caused by low cholesterol too. Could be drinking, that could be part of it as well. Yeah. Well, yeah. That can relate to that. I drank every night and that was just to get me to wind down and go to bed. I'd have bourbon every night. Bourbon or whiskey, right? Mm-Hmm. That was my thing. Mm-Hmm, and just on ice. No mixing or anything.'cause I was carnival. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Before

Pete:

I Me too. Yeah. I was, yeah, I was a neat whiskey

Larry:

man. Drinking clean. Yeah. I was drinking clean. But, once my blood got all normalized, I don't really want it anymore. It was easy to quit. It was super easy to quit. Actually, it was not hard at all. Now I'm not an alcoholic. I don't think because maybe if I was, I'd be craving it. I don't know. That might be a physiological thing. Mine was probably more of a mental thing, but I think the blood chemistry changed, and that's part of why I started my channel was the the suicide rate for military veterans and first responders is. Well, for everyone, it's gone up, but for them, it's absurdly high. And it's probably because, we are the warrior class, so we don't like to ask for help. We don't like to show weakness. We don't like to go to doctors as a class of people. We typically internalize things. We suck it up and we drive on. And I think that's pretty dangerous when you have. When you have this low cholesterol impulsive behavior, mental illness link due to our diet. And I think all the diet did was move the fulcrum over and make it easier to tip to suicide. And when they, the problems in life are going to happen, your relationships. Your money, your legal issues. Yeah. They're gonna happen to everyone. Yeah. But when you're, when your fulcrums tipped over here, you might pick suicide war. When it's just normal, you can probably handle it. And that's what I think's happening. Exactly. That's why I started my job, my, because I realized the difference in me.'cause I wake up. I don't know about your mental health. We'll talk about it a little bit, but when I wake up. incredibly positive attitude. Every day is a good day. Every day is a good day. Never had that before. Every day for the last 290 days has been a good day. Not one bad day. It's crazy. It's incredible. It's incredible, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Pete:

It's mind blowing. Yeah. But that's such a great point about, veterans not being able to ask for help. I Can see that being, such a problem because I mean, I did ask for help. So I went in and outta doctors and psy psychologists and ended up at a psych psychiatrist's office as well. And I was put on four different Drugs and none of them worked. And SSRA, yeah, no, yeah. Two SSRIs. So that was Perza and sertraline. Yeah. Yeah. Bad stuff. And then also, yeah. Awful. And also Valium at one point. Yeah. And then the worst of them all was Pregabalin, which is a drug called Lyrica. Which is only being used as being used experimentally for mental health is primarily used for nerve pain and nerve damage. But the psychiatrist threw me on that and man, this is, that's a crazy story. Like within two days of having that drug, I fell down the staircase at home. I just literally missed a step. Oh, wow. And pummeled down that, that wooden staircase. And, the doctor said it was lucky not to cause spinal injury on that fall. I had a bruise the size of, you know. Yeah, giant bruise on my waist, it almost killed me just taking that drug for two days.

Larry:

And the other thing is, if these vets do ask for help, they get that kind of care, standard care, which is not good. It's not going to fix the problem. It's going to make things worse. And I know when people go to the VA, they have PTSD, whatever they have, and they say they have problems. This is what they get given. They get given a cocktail of drugs and then they start getting side effects. So they get another drug to address that side effect. And pretty soon they have a cascade of drugs on their nightstand. And I know people personally didn't have that. And I was afraid of that. I was terrified that would happen to me. So I'd never asked for, I just didn't want to go down that road. I was like, I'll just suck it up and be, and I figured it was normal. We figured being depressed every now and then was normal. I just thought that's what happened, and anxiety normal, right?

Pete:

Yeah. Yeah. When I anxiety first hit me, I had a panic attack at work 18 years ago in a closed door meeting. So it was, in a room with, four executives. it was just a normal day at work, but then it hit me this, and I didn't actually know what it was. I'd never experienced panic before. So, I'm sitting in the, the room starts caving in, the walls closing in, you're sweating, your heart's racing, your eyes on the door, clearly the people in the room were like, what's going on with this guy? Yeah. Didn't say anything. I remember walking into my car, just going, what the hell was that? What was that about?

Larry:

Yeah. Did you get the hot flash, like from cortisol where you get hot, cold, yeah.

Pete:

The works. It was a really, yeah. I thought I was having a heart attack. It was a really severe Yeah. Panic attack. And that compounded itself into becoming a fear of the fear. For 20 years I couldn't fly, I couldn't fly without being medicated because I was sort of scared of getting a panic attack inside a claustrophobic, confined space, like inside a plane. It just became this, it fed itself. And then that being scared of anxiety. Feeling sorry for myself that I had this thing made me depressed. So it really compounds itself. It's an awful affliction.

Larry:

Yeah. I always had fear too before carnivore. And the fear was one Alzheimer's because my mother died at 67, 10 years older than I am now. And her last 10 years quality of life was awful. And I was thinking, okay, this is it. I'm probably going to go down the same road. Cause It's genetic because that's what they tell us. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And I'm probably going to get it. And then of course, cancer was always in the back of my mind too. Cause I have friends who got in cancer, people, veterans, I know, and I'm thinking, okay, when's the cancer going to get me? Every time I go for colonoscopy for, there's polyps, whatever. When's cancer coming? I just knew it was coming. Now I don't fear that at all. I have no fear whatsoever. It doesn't even enter my mind. If it does, I know how I'm gonna fight it. I already got a plan. I could talk to DC. He'll hook me up. But I already have a plan. I already know. Glucose and glutamine fuel it. And there's two things you can do. You can eat a strict carbohydrate free diet. And then you can take a glutamine inhibitor. Like a lot of antivirals out there. You can fight almost every, almost every cancer with that really effectively. So I don't have any problem at all. I'm pretty good. And I haven't been sick. I used to get sick in the summer and in the winter and the fall and the winter, I used to get sick three times a year, no sickness this summer, no sickness in the fall. And I even took care of my son when he was sick and he had strep and I didn't get it at all. It was amazing. And I didn't protect myself. I just did my thing. How about you? You've been sick since you've been on this.

Pete:

Not, not at all. I think it is. It's incredible. Like you develop this confidence that you're not going to. And I wonder if that comes from, you got controls, there's a gut brain connection, feeling really great inside, you almost know that, well, I'm not going to get sick. Cause I feel so amazing. It's like a sixth sense

Larry:

sort of thing, yeah. It's this biochemical engine we're in is so amazing. You think of amazing machines, like the space shuttle or like the Ferrari or whatever. They're nothing compared to what we got. We got the skin. We got the gut. We got all these things in the taste buds and the smell and the brain and all these things going on. It just. And then

Pete:

the mitochondria, the mitochondria, when you really zoom in. All that, like you said, it's amazing. It's just running at all times and you're not conscious of it.

Larry:

Super amazing. And if it's just given the right fuel, you're good. If you try to put the wrong fuel in a space shuttle or you put the wrong fuel in a Ferrari, guess what? It's not going to be very good. It may get some point A to point B, but it may not do it safely. And it may not do it at what it's designed to do. So yeah. The right fuel in the body, man, we just take off. Yeah. This

Pete:

is the ancestral, this is the ancestral fuel that we're meant to eat. It's a hundred percent. It's, it's a no brainer.

Larry:

I love the documentaries. I don't know if you've seen Fat, A documentary or fat fiction. Yeah, I've seen fat fiction. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if that fiction has the aborigines in it, but there's a couple of documentaries that do. And the Australian aborigines, what's interesting is they pretty recently from the 1950s switched to a Western diet, right? Because they were still hunter gatherers. And once, and when they were in the forties and fifties and before that they died of old age, typically now they're dying of hypertension and Diabetes and cancer. And it's crazy because they never had that. And that's just,

Pete:

yeah, they're just totally not equipped for our diet at

Larry:

all. And there's one study and we're not equipped for it either though. I mean, our diet,

Pete:

that's right. That's right. Yeah. We've had

Larry:

slightly longer and American Indians are no different. The American Indians on the reservations have a higher rate of cancer and obesity and diabetes than we do in the Western because we've had exposure longer, so maybe we. We can tolerate it a little better, but not since the 80s, because since the 80s, that's when they switched and added all the sugar and took all the fat out. And that's when they just really killed us. Ansel Keys, destroyed generations. I hope that guy's got a special place in hell burning for him. When I went a month on this diet, two things happened to me. One. One thing. I got stoked. I was like, Oh my gosh, this is amazing. The other thing I got pissed off, like, why did I not know this? Why did I not do this for 50 years or 30 years or 40 years even? And I'm super excited and grateful that I have it, but I wish I would have found it earlier.

Pete:

Yeah. Me too. Me too. That's, I touched on that in one of my videos, the fact that we've been brainwashed for so long. Since the forties and fifties because of that guy, I know because of Kellogg's as well. And, if you have a Graham,

Larry:

yes, yeah, Graham crackers, kellogg's all those guys. Yeah.

Pete:

Yeah. And when you dig into the history of these guys, it's all pretty sorted and not very nice at all. No, it's, and so my parents were, they were fifties kids. Yeah. So they were brought up and post-war kids as well. They were, classic post-war babies where their parents had done it really tough. My grandfather was a desert rat in Egypt. And he came back yeah, but he came back a changed man, he was a pharmacist and a lovely man, but he came back from the war and he was according to my father, he was a much quieter, more reserved person, just sat quietly in his chair each night and, he'd seen some stuff over there and so my mom and dad were raised with this sort of, oh no eat the sugar, eat the cereal, eat the sweets and the ice creams and that filtered through to, uh, to, to me and my siblings as well, so yeah we didn't stand a chance. We, we were raised

Larry:

on sugar and it's unfortunate because we knew, back in the twenties and thirties Otto Warburg did studies on cancer and sugar and we knew that sugar fed that, but this whole sugar versus fat argument that happened after the Eisenhower's heart attack in America and pushed by Ansel Pease. Then sugar got pushed to the forefront. In fact, got backburnered and we all just got it flooded in. But, all this knowledge we had from the low carb stuff back when, Dr. Salisbury did the Salisbury steaks and all these things. And they were treating people with high fat low carb diets, and we had all that knowledge up till the twenties. And then the great depression happened. And everyone was just trying to survive and no one even concentrate on that stuff. And then the wars, the war happened. And after World War II, then the fifties happened, it was the boom and everyone was just wanting to live and there was everything and no one's worried about health and they thought they were eating healthy anyway so they just ate a square meal back then. That's what I grew up eating. The square meal before the food pyramid came in. Yeah. Then the What's interesting is the food pyramid actually coincides with two things, the McGovern commission, which was trying to find cheap food to feed the poor people in America. And that's where they came up with that food pyramid. And the other thing is, there was a Soviet grain embargo that Jimmy Carter signed into law in 79 or 80. And that grain embargo, what it did is that we're not going to sell grain to the Soviet union anymore. And it was meant to hurt them, but it didn't hurt them at all. They just went and bought from other people. There's tons of. grain sellers. And what it hurt was our farmers. Our farmers had untold numbers of tons of grain sitting there rotting. And they said, we got to get this out. So let's put extra grain portions in the food pyramid. So even though the food pyramid said four or five, they went seven or eight portions per day is the recommendation. And then grain became a number one thing. It's crazy, right?

Pete:

Who eats seven or eight times a day to start with? But yeah it's been

Larry:

great portions and they don't also, this is the other thing. What is a portion that was never defined. It was never defined in that McGovern commission. So a portion could be, what is that? A cup? Is it a half a cup? Is it 16 ounces of 10 ounces? Is it a

Pete:

bowl full?

Larry:

Yeah. Yeah. So it was just insane that in the, and then the eighties, the carbs in carbs out thing. So we just went down the rabbit hole, the wrong direction guided by our government paid, paid for by Kellogg Graham and all the food companies. So I remember that

Pete:

in the eighties when my mom tried to lose some weight and everything became fat free, and skim milk. Yeah. But prior to that, up until, cause I was born in 75. So prior to that, up until about the age of six. I was looked after a lot by my grandmother who was born in 1914 and my memories of eating grant grand's food with things like livers and blood sausage, I really, really enjoyed black, I have really fond memories of eating, but I still love liver to this day. I don't have it much, but I still really liked the taste of it because it makes me think of grand and it's really great to have the chance to be fed by someone from that era, but that all changed pretty quickly in the eighties. And then, we moved from it's a Scotland was still fairly, mince and tatties is a big dish over there. So you're having mince and potatoes for dinner quite often. So it's still, square meals, like you said before, but then when I moved to Australia in 1987 we, Australia was definitely more Americanized. That Scotland had been so we all of a sudden were exposed to McDonald's. There was a McDonald's in Scotland when I was a kid, there was a pizza hut, but we had it all here in Australia. So my parents, you know, no fault of their own, but they were excited to, Oh, let's go out and try pizza. Let's go out and try McDonald's all these new things. And we loved it. We loved it as kids, but looking back on it, it wasn't the best thing at all.

Larry:

Now, where in Scotland did you grow up before you moved? Oh,

Pete:

for Ayrshire, so close to Glasgow. Okay, I've been to Glasgow.

Larry:

Yeah, great place. Yeah, I love Scotland. It was fun. I went in the summer. The coldest summer I ever had. Yeah, I'll bet. Went to the beach. And people were actually getting in the water. I was like, Oh my God, I wouldn't put my foot in. I was like, no way. That's

Pete:

what's so funny about over there. When the sun comes out, the color tops off, you know, the sun's out. Ever rips off the shirt but it's still freezing. Yeah. I went to Dornic,

Larry:

went to Glasgow, Bonar Bridge. I went up to Cape Wrath all the way to the top. I went to a lot of, I enjoyed it. I saw a lot of castles. It was beautiful. Scotland, if you ever get a chance to go, it's worth going for sure. But there was none of that there when I went. There was no fast food anywhere. Yeah. It was not. Yeah. I stayed at bed and breakfast at B& B's and it was just, it was a fun trip. And that was in the 80s when I went. In the 80s. Yeah.

Pete:

In the 80s. So yeah, there were no McDonald's in Scotland, but there was one in London. London had a McDonald's and that was about it. Then in England, I remember playing an old train tracks from the 1800s and playing under bridges that had been built in the 1700s. And there's just, there's a rich history over there. It's a lovely

Larry:

place. Yeah. I stayed in the house. It was 750 years old and that's when it struck me. I'm like, this house is like 400 years older than my country., and it was called the old Invernold farmhouse. It's been there so long, they don't have an address. It's just you write a letter to the old Invernold farmhouse and they know it. It's been there forever, man. Yeah,

Pete:

I love it. If the walls could talk, hey, those buildings are amazing.

Larry:

If they were thick walls, man, they were like that. And there's no hot water upstairs, so you had to heat the water downstairs and bring it up to the bathtub and pour it in. There's no hot running water up there. It was cool. It was just interesting to me. It was a great trip.

Pete:

Such a contrast here. It was such a contrast in Australia. It's 200 year old, European settlement country, you have to really spend time with the aborigines or the indigenous people to fuel that culture. I was lucky enough to spend a week in country with some indigenous people in the past. And that was one of the best weeks of my life.

Larry:

And were they actually live in the Western lifestyle or are they actually doing some hunting gathering too? They were, so

Pete:

there was a bunch of elders who were really trying to live that, that lifestyle and younger people who were trying to reconnect with their lifestyle. And I was, a documentary, so I was lucky enough to spend time and learn quite a lot over that week. Magical time. Anyway, I digress. There was a

Larry:

study in one of the documentaries I did a review on it. It might be. I'm not sure which one it was. Fat, the documentary of fat, a documentary too. But there was a study where a an Australian doctor talked like seven aborigines that were living the Western lifestyle. They all had pre diabetes or all overweight. They were just to go live, for a month, the old lifestyle. And they did and all their problems when they lost all this weight after a month they were less active. They didn't have, it's not that there was calories in calories. They were doing less work. They lost weight and they felt amazing and all their blood markers got better. There you go. Carnivore, right? Yeah.

Pete:

Living on a goanna and kangaroo. And yeah, and really respecting the animal too. If they'd, eaten kangaroo that night, then they would, their entertainment would be a kangaroo dance to pay respects to that animal. So it all ties together. Yeah. Yeah. It ties together beautifully.

Larry:

It's fantastic. American Indians do that. And if you've ever there's a great movie. Where they kill a deer and then the three Indians. Oh, the last of the Mohicans. If you haven't seen it, it's great. It's great. I haven't actually, but yeah, I know the film. Great cinematography. It's, you know, Daniel Day Lewis plays an Indian, but anyway, they kill this deer and once they kill it, the dad and the two brothers, they basically thank the deer for giving them. And they, it's awesome. They pay honor before they dress it, you know, really cool. Yeah. I'm into that. So anyway, oh yeah, I hate to, I don't let any meat go to waste in my house. I eat it all. I'm going to honor the animal. So what's the physical and mental health effects of carnivore run like for you and your family, if your family's doing it? You can talk about that too a little bit if you want.

Pete:

Yeah, sure. Well obviously, telling the story about depression and anxiety before, it's been cured. I'm not depressed. I'm not anxious. I'm a new man and I've got my life back a hundred percent, you know, I wake up every day with a zest for life and I've started doing so, the YouTube is a big part of it. And, interacting with this community. I've joined a gym. I go for walks. I used to pay a guy to mow my lawn. It seemed ridiculous. I didn't seem ridiculous. I mowed the lawn myself. No, like these are the small wins. It sounds overly dramatic to say, my life has changed, but my life has changed. It's like a reboot. It's like a whole someone. So I've said this before. Someone's taken out the old brain, put a new one in. The old physiology has been replaced. It's been updated. I've had an upgrade. It's incredible. So obviously those effects ripple through to the people around you. I can see, so I have four sons age between 14 and 20. You is going to be 21 in February. And obviously you don't reveal to your sons, they've had a great upbringing and a great life, but I was pretty down. A lot during the early days of their lives, you don't reveal, you don't get to tell your sons that you're depressed and you're anxious, you're not going to do that, but. They can see the difference hugely, you can almost see them looking at you differently, I'll notice things I'm going to do. And, I said the other day to one of my middle sons, did you ever think your dad would be a YouTuber? He's

Larry:

like, nah,

Pete:

not a chance. Just little things like that. It's incredible. And my wife, Michelle, we can go into this, but, I had, some gut issues that really came to the fore over the last 12 months. And the diagnosis of that was pretty bleak. I was going to be up for a string of serious surgeries to remove what was diagnosis, complex transfectorial fistula, which came from having a really unhealthy gut for a really long time. So these abscesses that before down there and and leave behind these terrible tracks that, that, that don't heal themselves. And I was looking at 2024, it was going to be a year of eight to 10 surgeries. Oh, wow. Yeah. It literally 8, 000 a pop. So I got that diagnosis mid last year and it fooled me. And also that the surgeries, it's a really difficult thing to cure. So the surgeries, even though the surgeons are getting good at it, it's still viewed as experimental to a degree. And there's a 40 40 percent chance of losing a major part of your bowel colostomy.

Larry:

Oh my gosh, that's awful. Talk about, yeah, it's terrible.

Pete:

Yeah. Yeah. So really for me as a diagnosis, there's no doubt that that was going to be life changing and, so I'd already gone keto slash bordering on carnivore to manage weight loss and trying to improve my health at the end of 2022, but as this thing got worse, and as I started to see more stuff online and great accounts of healing I said to Michelle, I'm going to double down, I'm going to do this all meat thing I love barbecue, I love barbecuing. I've got a smoker at the back and, enjoy, yeah, enjoy cooking meat anyway. And probably sounded a bit weird to her, but she was definitely supportive of it. And that was the moment. That was the clincher that I went all in as a carnivore and long story short, I was asked to get an, the surgeon asked me to get an MRI. To just, this condition was not in a great shape and he really wanted to see what was going on. MRI came back. I was expecting the worst. I'd already been carnivore for about four months at this point. And his response to me was everything is normal. You can manage this with your general practitioner from

Larry:

now on. Well, did you tell him what you had done so he can tell other patients to come to him?

Pete:

No, I hadn't listened to him. I literally got a call to say, don't come in for your next appointment because they're quite expensive and yeah, whatever. Yeah. So I got a call from his office to, you know, at first it looks a bit sort of, well, he could have told me himself, babe, I got a call from the office and that was the information I got. And so I also got the MRI myself and Took that to my GP and, there's a lot of jargon in there. I don't understand, but he decoded that for me. And it's all, it was all terms like, mild scarring,

Larry:

What did your GP say? Did your GP

Pete:

he's flawed. He's flawed. He doesn't know I'm doing carnivore, but he knows I'm keto and he's actually quite supportive of that. When I first went keto, I was like, and I'd lost quite a bit of weight. I had a checkup. He's like, Oh, what you've lost the weight. What's going on? I said, Oh, I've cut out bread. I've kind of, sugar and he just looks at me and said, well, just keep cutting out the bread. Just keep doing what you're doing. He had no real concerns, which was really encouraging. I haven't been back to see him for months. So I was knocking on his door fairly regularly at one point, and I haven't been there for months. I'm touch wood as I say all this, you really don't want to jinx your progress, but

Larry:

man. You can't jinx it on this, I don't think. Your body's healing and doing what it's meant to do. When your body's completely inflamed, it can't heal. I had a scorpion bite. A scorpion sting. Right. Right. I don't know if you have scorpions in Australia, but in the West No, no. And it hurts bad and it was a huge lump of scar tissue for years. I got it in the field back when I was in the army. So that was 2017. I got stung 20, maybe 2016 and that lump never went away and I always had it. That was just bugged me. Cause like, man, my arm's got this big lump. It's completely gone completely after I went carnivore. And I just looked down one day and I was like, wait, which arm was stung? And I'm looking, I'm like, this is the arm, but it's not there. There's just a tiny little. Fleck of where it stung me And it's been a lump of scar tissue and the scar tissue when I my ankle scar tissue went away And that's an injury from the military of service related injury and I couldn't run the 2017 now I'm running again It's it is a miracle Diet, but surely is because basically the body is a miracle machine because it can heal itself Yeah, and once you get rid of all that inflammation from You're fighting from all the seed oils and all the crap in your body. Your body's just fighting and fighting 24 seven. Once you get rid of all that, it can just go to work and it does. And that's the amazing thing. It just does amazing healing. And you said it, you talked about a life changing event. That's one of the things I like to key on is there are not many events in life that are life changing. They're truly life changing. And I like to talk about. It's kind of a change of identity, right? Like when you become a father, you get married, you change your identity, your husband. Now, when you graduate from a military school, you're a soldier or a sailor or an airman. Those are life changing events. Even graduating college, that could be, well, maybe it's not anymore, but back in the day it was, if you've done something, you come out and you're a different person. And I think this is something beyond just a diet and that's why it's one sustainable and two, why it's so different because everything changes your mindset, your attitude, your energy level. And that's, I was gonna ask you about this too because of your mindset and the energy level, how is it being a father and a husband? How different, how better equipped are you? Or is there, are there problems because of it? Tell me about being a father and a husband. Do you think you're better at it? Yeah,

Pete:

Infinitely. Like I said before, that energy that I have is definitely infectious. I could see that with my kids. We've got a swimming pool in the backyard. When the kids jump in, I may have jumped in in the past, but I would have had a t shirt on to cover the fat. Because, I was embarrassed

Larry:

to be a big guy. I was there. Yeah, I the same way. Yeah,

Pete:

yeah. No, you know, just, I just rip off my shirt, and they can see the difference. Oh yeah. Dad's got self, dad's got self-confidence all of a sudden. Yeah, exactly. And Michelle can see that too. I mow the lawn the other day and I was covered in flex of dirt and grass. I just stripped off to my undies and jumped in the pool and, to hell with it. It's just, it's a small wins, that was a fantastic experience. Oh yeah, it's busy having four sons picking them, they work at McDonald's and, they need lifts here and there to friends and so I'm far more equipped. That's the other thing, not drinking as well. So if I get a phone call at nine o'clock at night, can you come and pick me up? Sure. Yeah. I'm. Capable of driving. I'm sober. There's no, no problems. And all those things. And in terms of being a husband, yeah, well, I'm far more attentive. I'm not out of it on whiskey or sleeping, sleeping on the couch.

Larry:

Yeah. I wonder if my marriage will be around how many marriages broke up because of this and it would, those marriages still be there if they had been on a carnivore diet. I really wonder that. I wonder a lot of things.

Pete:

Yeah I guess the negative spin on it is that I am the only true carnivore in the family. The boys are definitely starting to eat more meat and Michelle is too. But there's that element that you're eating separate meals to your family. But they've all got really used to that. And I do try and eat with them as much as possible. I only eat twice a day. But then they're eating three times a day and still having snacks. But we all support each other. I'm very fortunate in that sense. I do have mates where I could almost imagine their wives saying, you're not doing this, but Michelle has been with me the whole way. And you lead by example, right? I'm not a preachy guy. I would never tell someone what to do or how to eat or how to drink. But if you're getting these amazing positive benefits and that's radiating off you at home, people are going to pick up on that and maybe give it a shot. Yeah. My son

Larry:

did, you know, I didn't force him. I put a shelf on the bottom. And I put all his food there and I made two different meals. I'd make myself burger patties or whatever, a steak and make him different foods, and one summer, last summer he decided, Hey, can I do it? Because I want to heal my foot. I'm like, yeah, it might heal your foot. You can try it. So he did it. And now he's, he loves it. But yeah the thing I did with him was I'd play YouTube videos and listen to them while Interviews with Dr. Chafee and stuff and listen to him on the way after picking up from school. So he'd hear it. Yeah So that's what I did just to expose him to it, how would you say he's 14 and Great. That's fantastic. Great age and I can't imagine Like as he plays soccer and runs and he runs cross country and track and he shaved three minutes off his three mile time And set PRS on every race this year when he ran and then he actually placed in his first race, which is a top five finish and Oh, done. Yeah. And he's beat people on the team. He's never beat before. And it's fun to watch him before race.'cause all the teammates are carving up, they're all getting these bags of coach hands out with Yeah. Oranges and protein bars with sugar in it. Yeah. To get ready for the race. And Colton just drinks water. He just watches them and they're all eating and he is just like drinking water. And he goes out. Yeah. They just.

Pete:

Carbon up, get ready to crash, half an hour later, I remember that. Yeah, when my boy was playing rugby, that was the halftime thing. Oranges and sports drinks and all that stuff. You didn't do

Larry:

that anymore. So it's good. Oh, so what would you say is your greatest challenges with carnivore?

Pete:

I personally have got a really, once I put my mind to something, my, my constitution is really strong. I have, I think I have pretty good willpower. People have commented that on that in the past. So the greatest challenges tie into the family question. Getting used to eating differently or separately to my family. And Christmas and the holiday season presented challenges. Not because of temptation. I didn't have any pie or pudding or trifle or any of that. I didn't want to. But, my mother in law has routine routinely made me trifle every Christmas for 20 years. And, having to explain to her, I'm not going to eat your trifle this year. That's kind of challenging, you know, but at the same time, then when it ties back to these gut issues and the seriousness of my health, they all get

Larry:

it. Yeah. The social aspect is different. Yeah.

Pete:

Yeah that, that's about it. When I quit drinking, I lost the best friend. Yeah, cause he didn't want to quit drinking and we were drinking pals and we haven't, hopefully he's not watching this, but we haven't spoken for months. So there's been a dip in that, but I've really, I've met so many great people online and like minded people that has, I'm probably communicating with great people more than I was. Back when I was eating a standard diet anyway

Larry:

that's fantastic. Yeah, that's a fact. It's a stimulating, intellectually stimulating to be in this community. Yeah,

Pete:

a hundred percent. And the people I've met from all age groups and walks of life, and I've made some really solid friends already, and I'm only at the start of the journey. Yeah, it's crazy, right? At this stage anyway. So, challenges, but personally, the second I heard about this and wanted to try it, I was in. Oh, actually, okay, I will be honest, coffee has been a challenge. Are you up for it? I'm really trying hard. I'm really freaking, coffee, coffee is a damn addictive drug. It's hard. When you, and I remember, we've had this chat once before in a live stream, Larry, it's only two days of pain. It doesn't, the withdrawals, two or three days, four days. I really need to put on my big boy pants and just do it, especially because it's the one thing that still irritates my gut a little bit. It definitely does. I'm just, that when I get up pretty early every day, I get up at 4 30 and that routine of having that coffee first thing in the day is tough to break. I think it's. alcohol. I was alcoholic in the sense that I couldn't mentally stop drinking every day. But when I stopped drinking, I didn't have physical withdrawals. So I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Coffee is a really powerful drug.

Larry:

Combination of both physical and mental. So when I went carnivore, I drank coffee and alcohol the first 90 days. I quit both of them. When I went lion after about a hundred days I went lion and lost 13 pounds immediately. I didn't have a problem quitting coffee that time. It was so weird. It was easy. I drank hot bone broth every morning with, and I put butter and I put Redmond smoke, maybe a little bit of a smoky flavor. So I had smokey bone broth, beef or chicken. Didn't matter. Well actually it was beef because I was lying. I did that every day for about a week and then I stopped. I didn't need it anymore after that. It was easy. And then I reintroduced it a few months back because I thought I'm fine and it didn't really affect. So I'm not lying anymore. So I'll drink coffee. So I started coffee and then I got arthritis in my flared up in my ankle and my shoulder again. And I thought it was because I thought my ankle was because I was running sprints. I thought I ran too hard and I was like, Oh, I flared it up. I did that. And then one day my shoulder hurt, which is an injury from the military too. And I thought, well, I must have slept wrong on it. So I was coming up with these. I caused this. And then I did an interview with someone and she said are you drinking coffee? When I talk about my arthritis, I'm like, yeah, she goes, quit it. And I'll probably go away. And I'm like, yeah, you know what? You're right. And I did. And now it's gone. The arthritis is gone. But this time when I quit it, I had a headache for three days and it was a terrible headache. I didn't want to, it was bad. So I'd say I never had bad days. On carnivore, those three days were pretty bad. They were like, I wasn't in a bad mood, but I just didn't feel as, didn't feel as motivated to go do stuff. My head hurt so bad. Yeah. It was pounding. It was really real. So second time was harder for me. So weird.

Pete:

Yeah. It's like I say it's terribly addictive mentally and physically. So I'm slightly scared of withdrawing from it, but yeah, like I say.

Larry:

I wouldn't can go through it though. Write that escrow check to yourself, remember? Yeah. Yeah. I,

Pete:

after I watched that video, I, that, that came to mind a hundred percent. I really need to make a deal with myself. Make a deal with yourself. Yeah, because I know I just know, I know within myself, if I cut it out, I'll go next level again and save money. I know I'd

Larry:

save money and I was spending over a hundred bucks a month on coffee. I think. Between when I got at home, I got a good coffee and then going out and having coffee, I was spending probably 100 1200 a year. So that's a vacation in my book that I was spending on coffee. Yeah.

Pete:

So I put butter in it. I put butter in it. So that's like my, getting my fat, still justify it. This is the thing you subconscious mind.

Larry:

It does. Controlling the what do,

Pete:

it's ridiculous. You're always, you're reading

Larry:

Yeah, you're reading Mitch book. Yeah exactly, exactly. The beast with That's funny. So

Pete:

the beast is still, still

Larry:

coffee anyway. Yeah. You can make deals with yourself all day long. You can justify everything. It's so easy. That's why, that making a deal with yourself with the escrow. If you don't know what I'm talking about, I have a video out that a lot of, I get a, I've seen another one on that. Some people hate it. A lot of people hate it. A lot more people like it though, but it's just making a deal with yourself where, you're going to, so here's the deal. If someone, if I did make a 25, 000 with deal with you, you're actually saving more money than that on your surgeries that you're not having. So you're making more than 25, 000 on not getting surgery. Right. And here's the deal. I don't know. I, my life. I would not. No one could pay me 25, 000 to force back on the old standard diet because my life quality be terrible again. I would no longer be like I am now. And you can't pay me to go back. So no, no, no.

Pete:

Like I said, I actually commented on your escrow video. The health benefits are priceless. You can't put a figure on

Larry:

feeling

Pete:

like a new person. You can't. You can't. No, you can't. And that's when that, like you said before, that's when the regrets come up, wish I'd done this sooner. Yeah. Why did I spend 20 years living this inflamed, inflamed life? buT you can't look, no regrets.

Larry:

That's my biggest challenge too, is being a single guy going on dates with non carnivores is really not great. It's. Sorry, cause a lot of them see me as a freak or I talk about carnivore too much, maybe, or, because I talk about it, I do. I talk about,

Pete:

That's the thing. Even if you go out and say, yeah, let's go to a steakhouse, you're still going to have that challenge of, do they use seed oils? Yep. For me, I have a really, and this is the great thing about the lion diet, and I've been lying for quite a while. The elimination aspect of Lion allowed me, so the one slip up I had at Christmas was I allowed the guys with a cooking mistake at on Boxing Day to add lots of cracked

Larry:

pepper. Oh, wow. And man,

Pete:

that flared me up something chronic.

Larry:

And people talk about pepper being okay, and it's like, nah, not really. It depends. It's maybe, n equals one, maybe it's okay, but you won't know until you cut it out. Yeah. And

Pete:

I had an immediate flare up. The, a rash that I have in my thighs came back and obviously, you know, that's the only thing you've had different. Absolutely. So, you know, that's what's flared you up. Yeah. Yeah. Pepper, it's that cracks pepper as well. So it's the husk that you can't digest. Yeah. And

Larry:

so my body gets so much more sensitive, so much more sensitive to that stuff after you've been on a clean diet, which is great. That's what it's supposed to be. Yeah. It tells you what's wrong. Yeah. So let's talk about your YouTube channel, man. Why would you start a YouTube channel? Cause you have, you always wanted to be a YouTuber. Is that what's going on here?

Pete:

Absolutely not. And if I could rewind and tell Pete one year ago that you're going to be a YouTuber in a year, absolutely ridiculous. What a laugh. So I'm a TV editor by trade. So I've got the skills to make videos. And. That's something, so I've thought about moving from television to online in the past because, the industry is always evolving and the space is always evolving. The way people consume media is always evolving. But in the past, we never thought of that. I thought of who's a YouTuber I can hook up with and supply editing skills to them. And across that, that, that sort of way of thinking crossed my mind a few months ago. And it just hit me like that because I just started noticing that I wasn't anxious anymore. So I've recently realized that my depression and anxiety had pretty much completely gone. I was that was all there spinning. I was driving along, going places. I should really be anxious right now. Why the hell am I not anxious? And So then it just hit me. Well, if I want to cut for a YouTuber, I'll just cut for myself. I'll be the YouTuber because I have a message. I have a niche, I have an interest in this diet and, like many of others have said, I want to share the good news and spread the message. And that was still a daunting thought. So I actually, this is this ties into what I actually sat down and wrote a letter to myself. Nice. And I said to myself, this will be the best thing you have ever done in terms of your own self esteem, getting over your ability of being scared of public speaking and putting yourself out there. And I wrote the letter, do it, do it, do it.

Larry:

And I like, yeah,

Pete:

Yeah. And and I did it. And I did it and, my wife is still spinning out, but, this is a new me, this is a whole new me that she's got to get used to yeah, so, I've done two videos so far and I've been camera facing and that's challenging for someone who's in the past lived in the shadows. And I would avoid, we had a meeting called at work. I would be, I was the king of avoidance, I was really good at coming up with a reason for not attending the meeting. I hated being in a room with other people with the door closed and feeling that, that fear again of wanting to run away, from having that terrible panic attack in the past. And so what I promised to myself in that letter that this will help you overcome. It has. Yeah. And, and filming this, put, just put out a second video, filming that video felt much easier, much more natural. Yeah. I'm watching yourself. Yeah. Watching myself as I'm cutting myself, becoming less critical of myself. You, when you are a sort of low self esteem sort of person you're expecting a flurry of comments about, the way you look or the way you present, touch wood that hasn't happened. People have been supportive and just fantastic. So that's why I started it. So it was selfish. It was to overcome the fear of the fear, but also spread this message.

Larry:

Yeah. The message resonates, man. And that's what people key in on the videos. It's not us. It's the message, right? And then in the army, we have a saying that I used to love, which I still love is you make a plan. And then you work the plan and then you proceed as though success is inevitable. And that's what you do. You just proceed like it can't be, I can't be stopped. Yep. And something has to stop you right in this, bullet or artillery shell. And this is just, there's nothing here to stop us. Right. So we just, I said that very thing, but

Pete:

when I was telling before my 16 year old about it I said that I said failure is not an option here. This is happening. This will happen. And whether it gets bigger, continues small, I really don't mind. I'm just going to keep it up and develop those

Larry:

skills. Well, here you go. What are your goals this year for the YouTube channel or overall? Like in five years, what do you think? What would you like to see? What would be a successful YouTube channel for you?

Pete:

Okay. I'm just a guy, right? I'm a creative person with a creative mind. I love music. I love video. Those are my skills. I have a fairly good grasp of concepts. I can read literature and understand it and retain that information, but I'm not, I'm not Nick Horowitz or, someone like make sure he's got a great scientific mind. That, that's not my bag. I'm not an authority in medicine like Ken Berry or Chafee. So what can I offer? So my goals are to develop my offering. At the moment, it's fairly simple because I'm just sharing my story and I think my story is interesting enough that I can, that I could write on that for a while and continue doing that in various ways. But that's going to, that's going to hit a brick wall at some point. People just don't want to watch the same video over and over and over. So my goals are, how do I develop that? Do I do more interviews?

Larry:

Yeah. For me it's evolved. Like I started just talking about bootcamp, like how to do it first 30 days, 60 days, 90 days. So I was just, and then after that I started doing, well, you know, I'm going to do carnivore movies and then the movie reviews and I did some walk and talks. I just tried different formats and just saw what worked and the thing that worked the best with my carnivore community thing, which when I wake up with a thought in the morning and I just drive in and. I don't have any scripts. I don't, a lot of guys scripts though. I just don't script. I got to talk just from the way it is. So I'll go back and edit it, but I'm just going to talk. So I'll like Mitch does. I'm just going to go ahead and talk and I'm not a scientist either. What I bring to the table is a veteran perspective and I'm a motivator. I know I was elite. I was a chief warrant officer in the army. I can lead men and women and I know I can motivate them. So I just talk the way I talk to soldiers. It's kind of the way I. I cut it and that's my neat. It

Pete:

cuts through man. Like I, it really cuts through. I know.

Larry:

Bottom line up front, the bluff. Yeah. Yeah.

Pete:

Straight up. Tell it how it is. And it's really inspiring to watch your stuff. I appreciate it. I ended, yeah. And the movie reviews of, you know, the cast away one was great. That's one of my favorite movies. So I was really glad you picked up on that. That's a great movie. It

Larry:

is. I watched it the other day. I'm going to do it on squid game. I don't know if you saw when I was talking about that, but squid game. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be great because these guys go back on, a second time knowing they could die and they stay there because the why they developed the wine, that's what this is about. And that's the. The whole thing if you develop the why and you trust the process, if you have those two things, you will succeed a hundred percent. And that's what it takes. So yeah, people don't trust the process or they would do it and, or they don't have a why and it's not big enough where they do it. Like your why was huge. You're facing a hellish year, and,

Pete:

uh, Yeah and being poorly mentally equipped to face those health issues as well. You're not going to cope with a string of surgeries if you're depressed and anxious. You're just not. Oh, I know. Yeah, the why is pretty huge. And then the why for doing the channel was also huge. I want to overcome the fear. And throwing yourself in the deep end is the best way to do that.

Larry:

Well, yeah, and that's not something you'd ever do before carnivore. I stay with me. And not a white changes to write the white changes. The white went from just losing weight to health and that and realizing then the why became I like who I am now. I don't like who I was. I never want to be that person again, because this is the new me. This is that identity thing. I am Larry, the carnivore now, who does these things. And that's what I always want to be. So now I feel like I set a much better example for my son. And my friends than I did before I didn't, I wasn't as good of a friend. I wasn't as good as a father, and now I am, I'm much better at all these things and I don't want to ever go back. So my, why has changed? That's fine. That's okay. You can move your, why shift it to the right as you go and grow. Have you

Pete:

noticed that with your son, like the way he perceives you, or even sort of looks or listens to you has changed.

Larry:

Yeah, I think so. One day, in fact, last week. I was deep in thought and thinking about something and he came up to me and he goes, dad, is everything okay? Because he hadn't seen my face like that in a long time. Yeah. Smiling. And I wasn't, I'm like, yeah, what's up? He goes you just looked like you weren't happy or something. I'm like, no I'm just thinking I'm not, and he hadn't seen me that way since March 22nd, so nine months. So yeah, I think, that's fascinating. Yeah, we just go do stuff now. We can do a lot of hikes together. We do, we bike ride, we're just much more active doing things together. And for sure my whole attitude, my whole energy level is different with him. So yeah, a hundred percent. I feel like I'm such a better dad. And again, I wish I had been this the whole time, right? But I'm not, so you can't turn the clock back. Even though this is, I call this my time machine. It is for me because it makes me go back, but yeah, it's pretty, no

Pete:

regrets, no regrets. Yeah. I mean, my whole attitude, so I'm pushing 50. There's no doubt that a year ago when I was at my physical worst, right. I was, I've had points where the depression was bad enough that I've laid in bed and prayed to be. to be taken that night. Just, please God don't let me wake up. I've done that stuff. Yeah, it's pretty bad. It's to look back on that night, it's quite, I don't know, quite sad really to think that I was that way. Yeah, the contrast is just so huge,

Larry:

and there's so many people that are out there like that right now. My neighbors, probably on this street, I probably have several people that are like that right now, at least, I'd say three or four, maybe more. Who are in that condition. And this is the reason for my YouTube channel. My goal is to get it's not about subscribers, but it's really about views and influence just to get the message out. Right. So I do want subscribers because a successful YouTube channel is more likely to be picked up by the algorithm and more likely to be shared. And that's the reason I want, not because I'm trying to make money as a YouTuber, because I have real careers as I talked to you earlier. I'm a wireless network engineer. I own a company. This is a side gig of passion. This is a passion project is for you too. I know. And so I do want, and my goal this year is to get to 25, 000 subscribers. So I got the 6, 000 New Year's Eve. That was a 6, 003 at midnight testing. And I started in August, so August 7th. So August, September, October, November, December wasn't even a half a year. I hit 6, 000. I really, really want to get this to 25, 000 so that I'm actually making a bigger impact. And then I want to really reach out to more veterans and more. First responders. That's my goal and make real connections with people like you, which I'm making tons of friends like you are. I have people that I now count as friends all over the world. Okay, I got a lot of people in the U. K. You guys down in Australia, a lot of people around the country to that. I'm actually driving to Orlando. Yeah, I'm driving to Orlando. We go every year to roller coasters and we used to go to Disney World, but now we're going to Universal Studios. And when I drive down to Orlando, I stop at my dad's down by Spanish Fort, Alabama by Pensacola, but I'm driving past two YouTubers that have are veterans that I've interviewed on my mission carnivore podcast. And I'm going to stop by and see those guys and meet them in person, which is great. We I've been hanging with them. I know him and totally looking forward to having those guys, man. It's going to be fun. And my son with me. And then the other thing is you talk about the jumping in the deep end, right? Public speaking. Well, I have my first. Live meetup coming this Saturday, the 13th here in Texas. And we have 47 people signed up to show up that I have never met that are just viewers of YouTube in Texas. Okay. And so I've shared it out on Facebook pages. So they're not all from my group either. Some are carnivores from other groups, but they just saw the live meetup and it's going to be fantastic. My son's going to be there. He's going to be taking pictures and videoing. And it's going to be amazing. And I'm not sure what we're going to do, but we're going to eat some barbecue. That's amazing. I know that we're going to have some fun and you're

Pete:

going to document that and we'll see, get to see that on the channel.

Larry:

Yeah. We're going to get, I might even do a live stream. I don't know yet. Yeah, we'll definitely have pictures and videos and we'll talk about it, but I might, I will do a video about it or a live stream or both. So there'll be something about it, but it'll be documented there.

Pete:

DC lives about 45 minutes away from me. So we spoke yesterday after the stream and we're going to catch up. Yeah. And we're going to have a barbecue. We might try and stream from the barbecue. We might do it, but by doing across the table, podcast together. So the possibilities are

Larry:

brilliant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Might as well, share it because that's what this. This is all about making connections, really, right? Connecting with people, that's what my goal is, to connect with people. And I do, and I, you probably see it. You've only been doing this YouTube for a few weeks now, but you see it. The when I wake up in the morning, I see that the comments, I see people saying, thank you, I see people saying things, I'm like, yeah, I'm just sharing. I, but I'm motivating people apparently. And they're like, thanks for, I needed to hear this. Or, you've, and they ask questions. I like to answer, I try to answer every email. Personally, in every comment, personally, I know I won't be able to forever, but while I can, I feel

Pete:

the same way about that. Like you say, it's just been very new for me, but I have had a comment already from someone who's saying I've inspired them to give up the bottle. That's great, man. And it took me a day to digest that. Yeah, blew me away. It blew me away. It's the corny catchphrase, if you can help one person, you've done your job. Yeah. So

Larry:

yeah,

Pete:

you want to help more than one, but that's yeah, that blew me away. Fantastic.

Larry:

Yeah. I see that stuff. I see a lot of that stuff and it's pretty good. It's just, it's life changing, like I said, and YouTube's changing too. It's changing things in my life. So I'm thankful for this platform. A lot of people complain about it. I guess people that want to make money at it complain cause they don't, they have to share with YouTube, whatever. I don't care. I'm not in it for the money, so it doesn't matter to me. So I'm really just doing it to, it's a passion project. And that's what my deal is. You couldn't pay me. Yeah, it is. It is a great platform. It works really well. I wish their algorithm was more fair. aNd I wish they weren't leaning towards the WHO for the food stuff, but yeah, I mean, I get that and that's a valid complaint. But if you simply go to rumble and stuff, they just don't have the the search algorithm. They don't have the tools that you have here. So this is really the way to go. It is the, now, maybe in 10 years that'll be different. It might be AI and everything.

Pete:

Who knows? But I think even that that itself is good motivation to push the message because you know, you're up against a behemoth of a, of an organization like the WHO and Google themselves. So, hopefully they don't censor us too hard and we can just keep screaming from the rooftops,

Larry:

Yeah. And that's why making connections is so important and why making communities. So community is the key because. That's how you connect, people are missing that connection too. And once your mind straight and your body's healing, making connection is what you want to do anyway. You just want to connect with people. Whereas before I avoided connection. Okay. On the old diet, I avoided connection. I did not want to go out. I did not want to be in crowds. I did not want to go to a party and meet people. That's not what I wanted to do. I want to sit home and now I look forward to and want to connect.

Pete:

So I would have considered myself a classic introvert. Before this died, I'm not anymore. I crave social contact.

Larry:

Yeah. All right. So how can people who follow you? How can people follow you or get in contact with you besides your YouTube channel, which is at the primal timeline at primal at the primal timeline. Yeah. That's right.

Pete:

Yep. That's the one. So I've also got a Gmail account with the same handle, the primal timeline at gmail. com. Okay. So feel free to email me there. And I've also got a, an account on X as well, a Twitter account. So at this stage I don't have Instagram or Facebook or anything like that. Again, probably more of a sign of the old me. I got off Facebook about 11, 12 years ago because I didn't like the social, I didn't like the social aspect of it. So I'm just not on there. But I'm on X and I'm on on Gmail.

Larry:

Good deal, man. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a lot of fun talking to you, Pete. I really enjoy your company and one day we'll meet up. I'm maybe, I've always wanted to go to Australia. Maybe I'll make it down there sometime. Come on down,

Pete:

come on down. Or maybe I'll, I've never been to the States. So I would love to do that as

Larry:

well. The Texas is the best state. That's all I can tell you. Yeah. We have the best meat. We have a barbecue on every corner here. So you, the thing is when you're driving around and you're hungry, you can just pull into a barbecue and get. Like brisket with fat all over it. It's amazing. And it's just smoked, just smoked brisket. So there's not much of that here, unfortunately. Yeah, I know. But you can make your own cause you got a smoker. So exactly. All right, man. It's been awesome. I'm going to drop you out. Stick around for a minute. I'm going to say goodbye to everybody and then I'll, we'll chat for a minute. All right, guys. Another great talk. Pete's just a wonderful guy. Check out his channel support YouTubers, find new YouTubers like him. Like and subscribe, hit the notification bell so that they, when they make videos, you need to watch them right when they come out, because there's a golden hour when that video hits where they see who, what subscribers do when they get the video and it's subscribers all watch it. Then the algorithm shares it out with non subscribers. So that's pretty important. So definitely you can get in a fight. If you're not going to make a YouTube channel, just like and subscribe and follow these guys. All right, guys, all I got to say is stay strong and overcome carnivore soldier out.