The Game Doesn't Change Until You Do

Remember Mario, gold stars, and late-night gaming sessions at a friend’s house? In this episode, Bart and Sunny take you from those childhood memories straight into the biggest game of all - the Game of Life.

Here’s the twist: in real life, you’re not just playing the game… you are the game. Which means you’ve got two choices: step up as the Main Character and design your life, or slip into NPC mode...stuck in loops, running old patterns, living someone else’s code.

Join us as we break down what NPC vs. Main Character energy looks like across your body, mind, relationships, money, and legacy, and how to level up so you can play full out in every area of life.

Because this isn’t a demo version. You’ve only got one run. Make it count.

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Transcript

Growing Up Without Luxuries

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to We Play Full Out with Bart and Sonny Miller. Take it away, Sonny.

SPEAKER_00 0:08

Next time I'm gonna do the intro. Yeah, that was a good idea. I'm gonna say, take it away, Bart.

SPEAKER_01 0:12

That's a great idea. And I would.

SPEAKER_00 0:14

I know. Why do we not do that every time?

SPEAKER_01 0:17

It's a great question. I think it's because we're NPCs.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

All right. Well, when we were kids, both of us grew up in homes that had no expendable income. In fact, I think our home had a little less than that, honestly.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

Yeah, I would agree. I will tell you a funny story about that is that I tell people today, and they did they don't even know what it means, so I'll just say it out there, but we actually had to get up in the morning and clean out the clinkers so that we could put more coal in the furnace. And the furnace only ran in one room in Idaho. Our bedrooms did not have heat ducks in them like they do today. We had what was called an electric blanket on the bed.

SPEAKER_00 1:08

Yes. And when we got engaged and married, I saw this home and there's no carpet in it.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

Yeah, there wasn't carpet in it until after we were married. Um, and that's even a crazy story in itself, but there was still iodine stains on the floor when we got married, so you could see where that furnace was because my grandfather used to doctor the baby calves right there with iodine because he wanted to get them healthy, and that was the only warm spot that he could bring them in to actually doctor them.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

You know, and I think our house must not have had heat downstairs in the where our rooms were because we had little furnaces on the wall.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:46

But I knew that we were struggling like with money, so I remember not turning it on intentionally and getting my sleeping bag on my bed so that I could stay warm at night so that I wouldn't cost my parents more money.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

Oh my gosh. Some of the greatest stories, right? I can I can tell some some anyway. Let's keep going.

SPEAKER_00 2:01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, our parents shopped at high fashion places for us for school clothes. Like we went to Cal Ranch, probably$15 Wrangler jeans, DI thrift shops. I became famous for having egg salad sandwiches in my lunches.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

Eggs were cheap when you grew up on a farm, right? Right. You had chickens.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

Who wouldn't?

SPEAKER_00 2:23

Needless to say, neither one of us had the luxury of having a video game console in our home.

SPEAKER_01 2:29

Can we back up for five seconds? Yeah. If you don't know what Cal Ranch is, you guys, it's like a it's a western store. So think of your local area.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

It's like a western supply store.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

Yeah, it's a farm and ranch store. Yeah. And they just happen to have clothing there that a traditional older farm family. So if you want right now, if you wanted bib overalls, right, to work on your car or whatever, you'd go to one of these farm stores, they have bibles, and they still do. I mean, if you wanted a shovel, you'd go there to buy your shovel. If you wanted to get irrigation or feed for your animals, you'd also get that there. Yep. So in school shopping, it was like, hey, what does cows have while we're picking up feed?

SPEAKER_00 3:07

Let's go look at let's go get some school clothes.

SPEAKER_01 3:10

Couple new things while we're here. Pull them off the shelf. You're good to go, son.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:14

So just plus my older sister was only 18 months older, so I got a lot of her hand-me-downs and she got the new clothes.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

Even better. Right. Double the wardrobe. Here you go. No.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

Oh, the good old days. Okay, but wouldn't neither one of us had video games.

SPEAKER_01 3:29

Yeah, no, I mean, I will anyway. I would tell you some funny stories about video games, but no, had a no console.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

Well, I know every time I went to a friend's house, that's all I wanted to do because I didn't have it. And so I would convince them to play with me, but then their parents would get really mad because they wanted us to go outside and play.

SPEAKER_01 3:46

Yeah, it's like finally I got you over here to get the kid out of the house. Yeah. So they wouldn't be playing the game. You're not playing it.

SPEAKER_00 3:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

And I remember sneaking out into a dark living room with my best friend at the time to play a little midnight Mario Brothers. We were so naughty.

SPEAKER_01 4:00

Naughty.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

And of course, two goodly girls playing a game in the middle of the night expectedly resulted in my best friends disheveled and a little put out, if we're being honest to your dad to get up and tell us at about 2 a.m. in no uncertain terms to get back to bed.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

Nice. Which we quickly did. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 4:18

Fast forward to our adult lives. Oddly enough, neither one of us are gamers.

Life as a Video Game

SPEAKER_01 4:23

That's true.

SPEAKER_00 4:24

We play though. Wait for it. The game of life.

SPEAKER_01 4:29

Yeah. Woo! Let's go the game of life, baby.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

But here's the thing: life plays almost exactly like a video game. You spawn into a scene. That's your environment, your home. You start at level one, baby mode. You get gold stars when you brush your teeth without being told, clean your room or say thank you without rolling your eyes. And you unlock a new level of the game every time you master basic skills like walking, talking, or tying your shoes.

SPEAKER_01 4:54

You learn the rules.

SPEAKER_00 4:55

Yeah. But you level up. But here's where it gets really wild. And actually, the point we're getting at in our little podcast episode. In real life, you don't just play the game, you are the game. Which means you've only got two choices. You're either playing as the main character of your own game, or you've defaulted into being an NPC, which is a non-playable character.

SPEAKER_01 5:19

Yeah, so freaking awesome. I you guys, I love this analogy so much, and it's one I use a lot, and I've used it with my kids a lot because what's fascinating to me in life itself is as soon as we understand this principle, everything can change, right? And so one of the things that's amazing that I watch these gamers, and I'm sure you're probably gonna get into this, so I don't want to get on too much of a rant, I'll just bring it up. But like there is so many cheat codes, right? To the person who is playing the game. But the NPC in the game has no clue there's ever a cheat code. No, they they don't even have a they have no clue that there's a cheat code, right? The NPC literally only has the role that they have, and they do it time and time and time again. Anyway, go back to the podcast.

SPEAKER_00 6:14

No, yeah, that's really good. Um yeah, so if you log on to a video game, the very first thing you do is choose your character. That becomes your avatar. You pick their look, their style, and even their name. You hit start, and suddenly you're immersed in a world with a mission to accomplish. One you've got to figure out before you burn out, crash out, or get wiped out. And like we're saying, along the way, you'll notice something that not every character in the game is like yours. Now, if you're playing online these days with other humans, some are alive, some are making choices, some are moving toward a goal, but the rest are those NPCs. And they're stuck, just like you said, in pre-coded loops, repeating the same lines and actions no matter what's happening around them. They aren't thinking, they aren't deciding, they're just there.

SPEAKER_01 7:00

Okay, so this is a really cool thing, too, right? So, where you're born, the country you're born in is your game that's where it starts. And then all of a sudden, at some point in your life, you go, Where did you come from? You're from this country. Oh, well, you must play the game exactly the same way we do. But guess what? You find out they have different rules, yep, different things they do.

SPEAKER_00 7:24

They're playing a different game.

SPEAKER_01 7:25

They were but they've been playing a totally different game, and yet then we start to merge games. And anyway, I can go off. It's so fun. Anyway, here we go. My mind is spinning over there. I love this so much.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

Um, the same thing happens in real life, right? You can wake up each day and actually play as the main character. You can make choices, you can rewrite your storylines. Like, hey, if I don't want the job I'm in right now, I can choose a different one. Um, you can unlock new skills and levels, or you can slip into NPC mode. That's when you're just running the same old patterns, coded by your upgrade bringing, your culture, or your past.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

Yeah, or ignorance is huge. It's so big. And what's fascinating about being an NPC is is NPCs are manipulated by code.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:13

So once the code's ingrained in them, there's no change in the NPC.

SPEAKER_00 8:17

Or how about when they get glitchy and they like run into a door every day?

SPEAKER_01 8:20

Right, right. So good. So what's so funny is, and that's why when I walk around life with in some of my trainings, it's like pick out the NPCs and pick out the the players.

SPEAKER_00 8:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:32

Right? I mean, it's like you can start to see these NPCs all around you.

SPEAKER_00 8:37

Yeah, everywhere. I mean, in the gym, everywhere.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

Everywhere. The NPC on the pickleball court never advances. No, they stay at the same level, they don't they don't think the practice is needed. They're just want to play. That's it. That's an NPC. Right? It's fascinating. Anyway.

SPEAKER_00 8:56

Well, the I guess the main point here that I kind of want to bring out before we go on is that main characters design their lives and they're playing the game full out, right?

SPEAKER_01 9:05

Well, and they they learn their code. So a main par character, in my opinion, is looking at the code, looking at the cheat codes, looking at every possible scenario to play. Because they're they're the player, they're the ones directing, even if they have it's them in the game, they're directing, they're learning, they're doing all the things, right? Where an NPC is legitimately no, life is this way, life is hard. They're literally the they have been coded by somebody else. So somebody who's playing a game has coded them to be in their game to run their agendas.

Main Characters vs. NPCs

SPEAKER_00 9:45

Yep. And they never upgrade and they never get to experience the thrill of unlocking the next level.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

Amen.

SPEAKER_00 9:51

They're just always waiting for someone to hit that start button for them, and they're always ticked off because they're going nowhere. And the real magic only happens when you choose to play. So we're gonna kind of break down NPC versus main character in all the different gateways of our lives. And I'm not gonna lie, some of these I looked at and I'm like, hmm, maybe I'm playing a little more like an NPC here than I want to admit. Yeah. It's a little bit of a reality check.

SPEAKER_01 10:18

It's good for us, right? I mean, all these things, and that's and that's when you take the wheel.

SPEAKER_00 10:22

Yeah. So first is the body. So when you think of an NPC, what do you think of in the body category?

SPEAKER_01 10:29

Well, I think as somebody who like doesn't think about their body in terms of where do I want it to be when I'm 80 years old, and why do I want it to be that way? You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm and I'm not saying for everybody, but that that's an NPC that's just like, okay, here's food. I'm in a rush, doesn't matter, I don't care how I look, I don't care about this, I don't care about that. Now, NPC in the body also is somebody who doesn't really care if they shower, doesn't really care about their hygiene, doesn't care about like there's a lot of things that are very NPC oriented.

SPEAKER_00 11:05

When you say that there's different levels, I think, of where on the NPC spectrum you can be.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

Yeah. Agreed.

SPEAKER_00 11:12

I think some people maybe care about the way they look, but they're still gonna eat whatever's convenient, run on fumes, complain about feeling tired, but just not change the pattern.

SPEAKER_01 11:20

Right. And and well, I agree. 100%. We're on the same page. So I think if you can't verify yourself, if you are stuck in a rut and you really aren't controlling the outcomes of what your body is and what's happening. So, like, oh my gosh, I've got this element. Oh, it's I need to not only address emotional code, which is later, that's being a player. As an NPC, it just goes, Oh, I gotta go to the doctor and get this. Boom, done.

SPEAKER_00 11:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:47

I'm back in the game.

unknown 11:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:48

Here we go. You know, versus okay, there's more that's bringing, you know, happening in my life than just the body's just the the code of teaching me what's going on. A player understands, oh my gosh, there's there's really more to this. I brought this upon myself for this reason. You know, there's there's more thought outside of it.

SPEAKER_00 12:06

Yeah, I would say the big thing with the main character is they're gonna treat the body like a vehicle for their game.

SPEAKER_01 12:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:12

They're gonna make sure they're intentionally choosing food, movement, and rest that fuels the energy for this mission that we call life.

SPEAKER_01 12:18

Yeah, they're high performance players.

SPEAKER_00 12:20

Yeah. Okay, mind and emotions. You kind of just brought this up, but I would say an NPC loops the same negative scripts, just so easy to do, because they're gonna be there if you don't address them. They react on autopilot. So whatever emotional trigger comes up, they're just gonna go with it and not think about it.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

That's what they've learned. It's the code.

SPEAKER_00 12:41

They blame stress and circumstances instead of rewriting them. Anything you want to add there?

SPEAKER_01 12:47

No, I don't think so. I think it's really good. Um, I and I'm I'm not trying to be hard on anybody out there because some of you may be listening to this being like, oh my gosh, this is ruthless. But at the end of the day, it's not what we're intending to do here. Yeah, but like we're trying to show you the difference in actually activating every aspect of playing the game in this game that we are playing, versus um just being an NPC in your game and not fulfilling your purpose.

SPEAKER_00 13:16

Yeah, for sure. Um, and I again, like I can recognize myself at some level in all of these NPCs.

SPEAKER_01 13:22

100%.

Body & Health: Player vs. NPC

SPEAKER_00 13:23

I think a big epiphany for me was wow, I can master my emotions, and when triggers come, they can actually um signal like a hidden power for me. We kind of talked about this last time, but wow, there's power there for me that I can reclaim and use. It's like a cheat code, honestly. A trigger can be a cheat code or it can be something that throws you into a spiral. So good. It's like which one do you choose? Right, you know? So a main character would build awareness, challenge limiting thoughts, learn emotional mastery, and upgrade that inner code. Yep. I firmly, the older I get, believe that our inner code really dictates our life. Amen. Honestly. Really good. Okay, and then in relationships, um, NPC.

SPEAKER_01 14:10

NPC is I go to work, I come back, I kiss my wife goodnight, I try to watch a movie once in a while, but I am not present in anything. I'm just existing in life.

SPEAKER_00 14:25

How about in relationships outside of their marriage or spouse or partnerships, like with their friends or yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:32

So most of their friendships and things like that are they're they're there to try to bring life back into them, but they're still doing the same routine with it.

SPEAKER_00 14:44

Well, I think we've kind of discovered too that there aren't very many people who really have true friendships.

SPEAKER_01 14:50

Fact.

SPEAKER_00 14:51

Like it seems to be harder than you would expect to have like well, because of isolation and all the things we do, right?

SPEAKER_01 14:56

An MPC just isolates themselves. They don't want to interact, they don't want to do different things because why would you?

SPEAKER_00 15:04

Yeah.

unknown 15:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:07

So I think um avoiding conflict is very easy for an MPC, letting connections drift, repeating unhealthy dynamics. That pattern is very easy to get into if you're not aware.

SPEAKER_01 15:20

Amen.

SPEAKER_00 15:21

So a main character would show up with intention, communicate openly, and invest in creating depth and connection.

SPEAKER_01 15:28

Well, I think also in that category, they would show up willing to stand in somebody else's shoes. And I don't mean that lightly. Like when you're the main player, you usually have mirrors in your life. And we haven't got into that, I don't think we've talked about this in a podcast, but like your wife generally is your greatest mirror.

SPEAKER_00 15:47

We talked about it a little bit in that last part.

SPEAKER_01 15:49

So, that being said, you you, as a main character playing the game, you have to understand all the other characters. They're in your game, and you've got to step into their shoes. You've got to walk a mile in that kind of stuff. You've got to, you've got to do way more than just just no, it's my way, the highway. That's an NPC move. Because an NPC doesn't care. They're there's there. But a real player is like, oh, I need to understand your perspective to have my perspective.

SPEAKER_00 16:16

I was gonna say, and how do you feel like that unlocks a new level as a main character versus it's my way or the highway?

SPEAKER_01 16:22

Because you get to see everything. You're not just you're not so narrowly focused. You're not so into just you. You're into, yes, this is me. This is the way I believe today, but I'm not, I'm not labeled and anchored in this today. I want to understand this further to get more aspects of these characters over here that I'm, let's say right now, at war with. Then if I want to even manipulate her more, I could. But reality is, is it it gives you so many perspectives. Doesn't mean you have to change, doesn't mean you're gonna do anything different, but at least you can step there, see it, walk a mile in their shoes and go, yeah, not for me, or whoa, huh. You're on to something here.

Relationships & Money Mindsets

SPEAKER_00 17:07

Yeah, so if you never grasp another perspective, then you're gonna keep repeating maybe a role that's not ideal for you.

SPEAKER_01 17:14

Well, unless you want to stay as an NPC, yeah. That's all you learn.

SPEAKER_00 17:17

Okay, so for money or career, um, an NPC probably punches the clock, follows the script, waits for promotions or handouts, but never really updates or branches out their skills.

SPEAKER_01 17:29

Yeah, and I think they they use their time to dream, but never take action.

SPEAKER_00 17:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

They're always dreamers. I'm gonna do this one day, I'm gonna accomplish this one day. I'm gonna go there someday. And that's their language, and that's an NPC.

SPEAKER_00 17:47

Yeah, I like how you said that because I was just my mind was going to, I'm convincing myself I'm happy in this role, which we can do. But if I were to dream or if I were to like want something else, how do I say it? I'm not even considered that possibility. I'm just gonna dream about it.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

Yeah, so that's they're the dreamer.

SPEAKER_00 18:07

I'm not saying that right.

SPEAKER_01 18:08

Yeah, I think you're I think you're on the right track. And I think when you're when you're actually the player, it's like, okay, I only have a dollar to put towards this today, but I'm gonna put a dollar towards it right this second. And I'm gonna put the put the label on the jar, this is Disney, or this is whatever it is, and now I'm taking action towards that. And then I'm gonna put this jar on my desk, and then all of a sudden, which will amaze you, somebody's gonna walk in and go, What's the jar? It says Disney on it. I love Disney. Yeah, right now I'm doing XYZ, but I'm a player in my life, and I'm putting a dollar in there every month, and I'm I'm gonna go to Disney. And then all of a sudden that person looks and goes, Well, believe it or not, I just happen to have a full trip to Disney that we can't go on. Do you want to go on it? And the player's gonna go, Yes. Because they're a player, they're they're actually putting things into motion.

SPEAKER_00 19:10

Yeah, I love that. I think where I was going was sometimes we get hooked into a job because it makes money.

SPEAKER_01 19:18

Right.

SPEAKER_00 19:18

And then we just convince ourselves we're happy there.

SPEAKER_01 19:20

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Very true. I think that's an NPC move instead of like what was I designed for? And inside of that, they're sitting there saying, Man, I really wish I could be. I really if I had if I had this, I would do this. Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_00 19:34

Okay, that was really good. So maybe a main character also, if they can, it I love the aligned action for sure. Um chooses work aligned with purpose if possible, creates value, and levels up income, like unlocking new worlds. So they're always growing, they're always putting the jar out and and I guess going towards uh their dream. And helping others, and helping others along the way.

unknown 19:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:58

Okay, so legacy and life vision. So an NPC probably drifts without direction, stays in side quest mode forever, and leaves no impact when the game ends.

SPEAKER_01 20:10

Yeah. And then they start over.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:14

Where what's interesting, you know, in a lot of these games is, and and I and I watch my my kids, is how I like they'll all call each other and help each other in the game as players to do these things. And I think that's so freaking cool. But that's the way an outside player should also be looking at it is how do I help a group of my friends all play the game at a higher level and we all win together in the same freaking game, right? That's our game. And I think that is what we're trying to do is build a community of people who want to play the game at life at the highest level that they could ever play it by knowing their beliefs, knowing their emotions, knowing all these things, and then understanding where they're giving power, where the manipulations happen, how the the programmer against you is like you're able to go back and forth and play such a cool role.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Yeah, and I really love it. I think some of the things we didn't hit on, like when you believe you're playing a game, you don't take it so seriously. Yeah. So it's like, oh wow, did you see that trigger that just happened to me? Laugh about it and be like, hmm, tomorrow's gonna be different because I saw it.

Legacy & Taking Life Seriously

SPEAKER_01 21:34

Yeah, exactly. And but but the the how boring would a game be if, like we say, every day is the exact same path.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

Yeah. We were kind of talking, I think it was yesterday, of like, if you looked back at the last five years of our life, what's different? What patterns have we repeated, or like have we changed, or are we actually being NPCs more than we realize? Or like it's it's a good awakening to sit back and go, wow, what's changed in the last year? What's changed in the last two years?

SPEAKER_01 22:05

What are the same things we're fighting over? What are the same things? What are the same thing? You know, like it's it's it's fascinating.

SPEAKER_00 22:10

And you find, yeah, this has changed a little, but has the pattern really become that much different? Right. You know, totally. So it's really good self-awareness check. Just sit down, sit down by yourself, sit down with a partner and go, hey, like, do you see a pattern playing out here that I'm not aware of?

SPEAKER_01 22:28

Yeah. And it's I think it's a fun analogy to use is am I being an NPC and just tell them what you think is the difference between these two terms and say, Do you feel like I'm really playing my life as a player, or am I playing my life 99% of it, or 80% of it, or 70% of it as an NPC? And it's like, whoa, that's so fascinating. And even in your family, you can sit down and say, Okay, kids, like, we're doing the dishes, we're vacuuming, we're doing this, we have a house cleaner coming in, you can't keep your room clean, you're all a bunch of NPCs around here, and it's time to start playing life.

SPEAKER_00 23:06

Yeah, it's really about taking ownership.

SPEAKER_01 23:08

100%.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

Um, I had another thought, but I think I just lost it.

SPEAKER_01 23:14

Well, I guess you're you're a player, so you'll find it. But you know, like, and this is an interesting thing is like we, you know, like NPCs in the taxes, they go to HR block, spits it out, done. A player is like, no, how do I create an LLC? How do I do this? How do I avoid paying all this tax? And how do I, you know, all these different because they're playing of the game and they know there's a bigger game to be played, and they want to be in charge of that game.

SPEAKER_00 23:45

Yeah, it's full out engagement and ownership.

SPEAKER_01 23:47

But just so we're clear, no judgment either way.

SPEAKER_00 23:49

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 23:50

And the other thing that's so clear about it is there's a lot of NPCs that have for in their mind a great life, and I think they do. Awesome. They played the role that they wanted to play, I guess, here. But what we're challenging you to do is if you want upgraded code, if you want to really get after your life, you've got to find people that allow you to just explore, to play, to try, to look at different things so that you're able to go, Whoa, there's so much more in this video game than level one and the same path, or level two. It's like all of a sudden there's like, there's 50 levels and they're a blast. And today I'm in this level. Today I'm cycling bart. Tomorrow I'm bodybuilding Bart. The next day I'm pickleball bart. Like, it's a blast. Why the heck not? Just like enjoy this amazing thing, this amazing game that we get to play as players if we elect to, called life.

SPEAKER_00 24:58

Yeah. And I think that's where my mind was going. You brought me back to is what do you want?

unknown 25:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:06

Yeah. And it's so funny because sometimes it's like, I don't even know. So how can I play the game if I don't know my mission, if I don't know what I want, if I don't know my purpose, if I don't know where I'm going, if I don't, you know, if I don't, if I don't, if I don't.

SPEAKER_01 25:20

100%.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

It's really like, what do you want? Take ownership and engage with it.

SPEAKER_01 25:23

And that's why sometimes you've got to go through a program that makes you think about things from a different perspective that all of a sudden goes, Oh, no, I really want that. I didn't realize it, but I do.

SPEAKER_00 25:38

Or why don't I want that? Totally.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

Oh, that's a great idea.

SPEAKER_00 25:41

Have I thought about that?

SPEAKER_01 25:42

100%. You know, 100%.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

Do I just not want it because programming? Or have I even explored it to even know I don't want it? You know, there's something there's another level.

SPEAKER_01 25:52

Genius. Awesome. Great stuff, Sonny.

SPEAKER_00 25:55

Okay. Well, at the end of the day, life is not a demo version. You can simply restart. It's the one run you get. So you can spend it looping the background code, walking in circles like an NPC, or waiting for someone else to push start, or you can pick up the controller, choose your avatar, and play like the main character you were designed to be. Levels are waiting, gold stars are waiting. The next breakthrough and unlock is waiting. The only question left is are you playing full out or are you letting the game play you?

SPEAKER_01 26:27

Oh yeah. So good. Love it. Juicy, fun, exciting. Hopefully it uh stretched your brain a little bit and made you think about a few things. And uh so grateful. Great job. Anything else?

SPEAKER_00 26:44

We've got a few live updates that we could jump into.

SPEAKER_01 26:47

So before we do that, hey, if you've loved this so far and this has been fun for you, please, please, please share this with a few of your friends. Um, talk about it, have fun, bring it up, have conversation around it. You know, that's the whole thing is we got to share all these different things. And if you think we're totally off our rockers, share it with us. That's okay too. No judgment on our end. You know, if you think it's awesome, share it with us. That's awesome too, you know. But reality is, is uh we are all playing this game together and we want to just help other people see it from different types of perspectives, and hopefully that happened today. So, once again, um, if you haven't shared this, please do that. We'd greatly appreciate that. Now we're on to amazing life updates.

SPEAKER_00 27:31

So we went and looked at a new event center being built where we hold our annual I Do Epic Live event.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

Yeah, yeah, it was so cool.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

It is much bigger, yeah. And really cool. What I loved about it was the person building it, her name is Sharon, and it's been a dream of hers for seven years, and she's making it happen, and it's been a lot for her with the government and lots of back and forth and things she's had to fight, and it's just cool to see. She's being a main character and she's making it happen. So good. Uh, Xander competed in another pickleball tournament last night, and I think he won all of his games. He did. And then we've been playing, practicing, drilling pickleball together about once a day.

SPEAKER_01 28:15

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 28:16

Which has been really fun. You're helping me level up in pickleball. So I'm not showing up for the same skill level week after week after week.

SPEAKER_01 28:23

Yeah, let's go, Sonny.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

Yeah, and then our daughter just bought a house.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Yeah, we went toward that amazing, beautiful house. It was awesome.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

Yeah, yeah. Super excited for her and her little family and moving in and making things happen.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

Let's go. Well, anyways, you guys, hopefully you liked all the life. Is that all the life updates? You liked all the left life updates. If you have anything you want to speak on, or if you actually want to be on our podcast, let us know. And with this segment is brought to you by I Do Epic.